Re: need help configuring debian-6.05 with DNS

2012-06-30 Thread Camaleón
On Fri, 29 Jun 2012 13:59:27 -0700, Gary Kline wrote:

> Hold on!  on ethic's /etc/host's file I had the *wrong* IP.  "deb" is my
> to-be new Linux server with 10.47.0.115 as its internal IP. Now I can
> ping and dig and nslookup the computer *correctly*.  This is
> outstanding.

A bad step for someone who is planning to setup a server.

> The next thing is to get mail on "deb";  how do I do that?  

(...)

You can start by calling Debian using all its words (to avoid 
misinterpretations with "deb" that can be taken for something different) 
and opening a new thread for a new problem ;-)

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why ABIWORD?

2012-06-30 Thread Francesco Pietra
Hello:
With my i386 wheezy, a today update/upgrade led to libreoffice (text)
not launching. I resorted to abiword, new in my experience. I found
abiword in great troubles with tables made by libreoffice odt.
Suddendly, abiword was able to destroy nearly completely the content
of the big table.

Should my experience be representative, it would be better not to
propose text editors that are unable to do what they should.

Cheers
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Re: Re (3): Apparent disagreement between df and cp.

2012-06-30 Thread Keith McKenzie
On 29 June 2012 23:41, Doug  wrote:

> On 06/29/2012 05:29 PM, peasth...@shaw.ca wrote:
>
>> From:   Dom
>> Date:   Thu, 28 Jun 2012 16:02:45 +0100
>>
>>> Ok, I've just tested this. It is a FAT filesystem limitation.
>>>
>> /snip/
>
> I've looked at this thread a number of times, but I was then and
> still am puzzled.  According to "Linux in a Nutshell," by Siever, et al,
> cp is a copy command that applies to files or directories, and
> none of the options mentions determining the size of a file-
> system or the remaining space therein.  Please advise.
>
> --doug
>
>
It was about cp reporting 'no space left on device', whilst df said that
there was space available.

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Re: DHCP + DNS questions

2012-06-30 Thread Soare Catalin
On Jun 25, 2012 10:07 AM, "Andrei POPESCU"  wrote:
>
> On Lu, 25 iun 12, 01:09:36, Soare Catalin wrote:
> > Hello everyone,
> >
> > I've setup a dhcp+dns server on a small box where I've installed
> > debian wheezy. It is for home use, as I happen to have a retarded
> > router from my ISP which is unable to hold reservations.
> >
> > I've installed both isc-dhcp-server ( 4.2.2) and bind9 (9.8.1), and
> > they both work fine for all clients I connect to them, except for one
> > small detail: the dhcp server seems unable to add dns entries. (With
> > other words, everyone gets an IP and internet, but I'm unable to get
> > things to work internally, don't know who has what IP).
>
> In my experience dnsmasq is much better suited for this kind of setup:
>
> 1. install it (and get rid of bind and isc-dhcp-server)
> 2. list your hosts in /etc/hosts
> 3. configure the simplest DHCP network in /etc/dnsmasq.conf
> 4. Enjoy :)
>
> At step 3. you might need to set up static leases for your machines as
> well, but I'm not sure...
>
> Kind regards,
> Andrei
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Hi,
Sorry for replying so late, but only last evening I had a chance to try it
out.
I removed both bind server and isc-dhcp-server and installed dnsmasq. It
was very easy to setup.

Thank you very much for the reply.


Re: DHCP + DNS questions

2012-06-30 Thread Soare Catalin
On Jun 25, 2012 10:07 AM, "Andrei POPESCU"  wrote:
>
> On Lu, 25 iun 12, 01:09:36, Soare Catalin wrote:
> > Hello everyone,
> >
> > I've setup a dhcp+dns server on a small box where I've installed
> > debian wheezy. It is for home use, as I happen to have a retarded
> > router from my ISP which is unable to hold reservations.
> >
> > I've installed both isc-dhcp-server ( 4.2.2) and bind9 (9.8.1), and
> > they both work fine for all clients I connect to them, except for one
> > small detail: the dhcp server seems unable to add dns entries. (With
> > other words, everyone gets an IP and internet, but I'm unable to get
> > things to work internally, don't know who has what IP).
>
> In my experience dnsmasq is much better suited for this kind of setup:
>
> 1. install it (and get rid of bind and isc-dhcp-server)
> 2. list your hosts in /etc/hosts
> 3. configure the simplest DHCP network in /etc/dnsmasq.conf
> 4. Enjoy :)
>
> At step 3. you might need to set up static leases for your machines as
> well, but I'm not sure...
>
> Kind regards,
> Andrei
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Hi,
Sorry for replying so late, but only last evening I had a chance to try it
out.
I removed both bind server and isc-dhcp-server and installed dnsmasq. It
was very easy to setup.

Thank you very much for the reply.


Re: Filezilla a security risk

2012-06-30 Thread Camaleón
On Fri, 29 Jun 2012 21:03:58 +0200, Denis Witt wrote:

(...)

>> and hey, it's open source! You can hire a programmer, make a fork
>> ("FileZilla-S" for secure) and add all the enhancements you want ;-
> 
> Forking a program for a single little feature doesn't make a lot of
> sense to me. 

If you value so much that feature and you really like the application, 
why not?

> Either you will have to patch the upstream version every now and then
> or you end up with a Fork that doesn't get any new features, also it
> might confuses some users.

Then move on :-)

But remmember this is very common for another programs. In Windows 
systems, for instance, the login credentials of many applications remain 
stored accessible from the registry so no gain here. In the linux 
ecosphere, as I already mentioned (i.e., mutt, the ssl keys and another 
one I remember is phpmyadmin when using a determined auth type), it 
happens the same.

I wonder if a feasible approach to store credentials in clear text for 
FileZilla would be using something like the gnome-keyring or a similar 
implementation for the different OSes or linux boxes, although of course, 
this would add additional drawbacks.

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Re: Joining pcl and jpg in Gimp.

2012-06-30 Thread Camaleón
On Fri, 29 Jun 2012 17:28:23 -0800, peasthope wrote:

> I have a pcl file to join to a jpg to make a collage.
> 
> Gimp can not import pcl directly but I can try to convert it to jpg or
> png using netpbm.  Can anyone recommend a favourite solution to this
> problem?

I would use a tool to convert the pcl file into something more 
manageable, like PostScript or PDF.

Google points to GhostPDL (binary is "pspcl6") but I was not able to find 
a precompiled package for Debian.

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Re: Problem with Disk test

2012-06-30 Thread Camaleón
On Fri, 29 Jun 2012 17:01:17 -0600, Shane Johnson wrote:

> I was wondering if someone could maybe shed some light on a problem I am
> having.  I have build a Debian Squeeze server using debootstrap with and
> without backports.  When I run badblocks from the installed system I
> keep getting errors 

Then run a full test with smartctl and upload the results somewhere.

Badblocks are usually silently remapped by the hard disk, marked and bad 
as discarded, but if there are many it can indicate a serious problem or 
a disk going bad. This can be usually detected by reading the current 
"pending sector count" value from smartctl.

> but when I run it from the Live CD nothing.  

A LiveCD barely uses the hard disk but the CD media, it's fully loaded 
from RAM memory.

> Could I have missed a package in my install?  

A missing package does not have to trigger badlocks.

> Any other ideas on what's happening?  (This is the only system out of 5
> that this is happening on.
>  All the others where built the same way. )

A dying hard disk?

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Re: why ABIWORD?

2012-06-30 Thread Camaleón
On Sat, 30 Jun 2012 11:16:04 +0200, Francesco Pietra wrote:

> With my i386 wheezy, a today update/upgrade led to libreoffice (text)
> not launching. 

When that happens, run it from command line ("oowriter") and watch for 
the output.

> I resorted to abiword, new in my experience. I found abiword in great
> troubles with tables made by libreoffice odt. Suddendly, abiword was
> able to destroy nearly completely the content of the big table.

This can happen even from documents generated by LibreOffice and then 
opened with OpenOffice, MS Word or even with a different version of 
LibreOffice :-/

> Should my experience be representative, it would be better not to
> propose text editors that are unable to do what they should.

It would depend on the document complexity (tables, layers, used 
objects...) but you can always report it so developers can find a fix for 
it.

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Re: why ABIWORD?

2012-06-30 Thread Joe
On Sat, 30 Jun 2012 11:16:04 +0200
Francesco Pietra  wrote:

> Hello:
> With my i386 wheezy, a today update/upgrade led to libreoffice (text)
> not launching. I resorted to abiword, new in my experience. I found
> abiword in great troubles with tables made by libreoffice odt.
> Suddendly, abiword was able to destroy nearly completely the content
> of the big table.
> 
> Should my experience be representative, it would be better not to
> propose text editors that are unable to do what they should.
> 

I'm happy to keep both. I find Abiword able to display some Word
documents which LibreOffice cannot, and vice versa. I'd have to be
fairly desperate to actually create a Word document with either, or
even edit one.

Don't forget, Word itself is extremely poor at maintaining document
formatting across versions or even with a different printer selected.
Word has never been a DTP application, despite large numbers of people
thinking that it is. It is a document processor, designed to maintain
the flow and order of large volumes of text with embedded tables and
graphics, without much attention to layout. I'd use it to write a book,
but not a CV.

If someone demands a Word document, I would normally send an RTF file,
which is somewhat more predictable and will open in any Word, and even
then I'd use quite large margins. I do actually have a full Office 2007
on Windows 7, but there has to be money involved before I'll use it. I
hate Word more than possibly any other piece of MS software, except
perhaps Edlin (which is still part of Windows 7).

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Re: Debian GNU/Linux wheezy/sid - Howto setup bootlogd?

2012-06-30 Thread Camaleón
On Fri, 29 Jun 2012 22:49:46 +0300, Andrei POPESCU wrote:

> On Vi, 29 iun 12, 14:53:25, Camaleón wrote:
>> 
>> Uh? This has been installed since... wait, you're right, the package is
>> not there, what the...? It may have been removed silently because I'm
>> sure I had it working and installed months ago.
> 
> That's probably when bootlogd was split in a dedicated package[1].
> Before that it was a functionality of initscripts.
>  
> [1] the changelog says 22.Dec.2012

Thanks. I see...:

http://packages.debian.org/changelogs/pool/main/s/sysvinit/sysvinit_2.88dsf-22.1/changelog#version2.88dsf-17

[ Josh Triplett ]
   * Split bootlogd into a separate package. (Closes: #545181)

It would have been nice to have a notice displayed somewhere about the 
removal of a binary or something that can indicate the users they need
to manually install the new stand-alone package if they wanted to keep 
such funcionality.

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Re: Filezilla a security risk

2012-06-30 Thread Denis Witt
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Camaleón schrieb:

>>> and hey, it's open source! You can hire a programmer, make a
>>> fork ("FileZilla-S" for secure) and add all the enhancements you
>>> want ;-
>> Forking a program for a single little feature doesn't make a lot
>> of sense to me.

> If you value so much that feature and you really like the
> application, why not?

I didn't. It's more that I dislike the attitude of some developers (in
general) saying that they don't have to care about uninformed users who
misconfigure their systems or even don't know how to protect themselves.

At least they should inform the user that saving passwords is insecure.

> I wonder if a feasible approach to store credentials in clear text
> for FileZilla would be using something like the gnome-keyring or a
> similar implementation for the different OSes or linux boxes,
> although of course, this would add additional drawbacks.

I like how MacOS handle this, nearly every application designed for
MacOS is using the built in Keychain. Of course, if the keychain tool
isn't secure this is a big problem.

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Re: Filezilla a security risk

2012-06-30 Thread Camaleón
On Sat, 30 Jun 2012 12:45:08 +0200, Denis Witt wrote:

> Camaleón schrieb:
> 
 and hey, it's open source! You can hire a programmer, make a fork
 ("FileZilla-S" for secure) and add all the enhancements you want ;-
>>> Forking a program for a single little feature doesn't make a lot of
>>> sense to me.
> 
>> If you value so much that feature and you really like the application,
>> why not?
> 
> I didn't. It's more that I dislike the attitude of some developers (in
> general) saying that they don't have to care about uninformed users who
> misconfigure their systems or even don't know how to protect themselves.
> 
> At least they should inform the user that saving passwords is insecure.

If currently there's no indication in their docs about the settings are 
being stored in clear text (login and passsword) you can open a wishlist 
bug report at FileZilla site for that.

It's easy to blame devels (and forget the next day) but users can also 
contribute with this little things.

>> I wonder if a feasible approach to store credentials in clear text for
>> FileZilla would be using something like the gnome-keyring or a similar
>> implementation for the different OSes or linux boxes, although of
>> course, this would add additional drawbacks.
> 
> I like how MacOS handle this, nearly every application designed for
> MacOS is using the built in Keychain. Of course, if the keychain tool
> isn't secure this is a big problem.

That's similar to what GNOME keyring does and you can also use an 
unsecure keyring by removing the passsord and exposing the stored 
credentials as plain text but of course, that's up to the user and how he/
she wants to manage the login information.

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Unable to install grub in mac mini server

2012-06-30 Thread Rodolfo kix Garcia

Hi,

I have a mac mini server (2011). I installed Debian one year ago and 
all was fine. I setup grub without problems, but some days ago the 
computers was rebooted and I cannot boot it. I tried to reinstall grub, 
but no success.


This is the configuration:

1. Mac mini server has two disks:

   disk 1 (sda):
1: efi partition (original size, 210MB), fat32, "no flags"
2: /boot 200mb partition, ext2, "bios_grub flag"
3: md0 partition, ~rest of the disk "raid flag"

   disk 2 (sdb):
1: efi partition (original size, 210MB), fat32 "boot flag"
2: swap (8GB), "no flags"
3: md0 partition, ~rest of the disk, "raid flag"

Partition tables use GPT.

2. I have refit installed. Refit boots and I can select the 
partitions,...

3. Mac OS X is not installed (see disk partitions)

I can boot with usb drive and rescue disk, select it in refit, boot, 
mount the raid as md0 and chroot it. I can install packages, mount the 
partitions,... Full access.


I tried a lot of things:

1. Reinstall grub2
2. Install grub in the EFI and boot it with rEFIt
3. Purge grub and reinstall it.
4. Grub installed in the partition, in the mbr...

I got "GRUB loading." and stop. Or "GRUB" and stop.

Any help is welcome.

Is better use only grub without refit? When I run refit partition table 
sync the partition table changes from GPT to standard MBR and I am not 
sure if that is good.


Is better use rEFIT?

Thanks a lot.
Cheers.
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Re: Filezilla a security risk

2012-06-30 Thread Claudius Hubig
Hello Camaleón,

Camaleón  wrote:
> On Sat, 30 Jun 2012 12:45:08 +0200, Denis Witt wrote:
> > I like how MacOS handle this, nearly every application designed for
> > MacOS is using the built in Keychain. Of course, if the keychain tool
> > isn't secure this is a big problem.
> 
> That's similar to what GNOME keyring does and you can also use an 
> unsecure keyring by removing the passsord and exposing the stored 
> credentials as plain text but of course, that's up to the user and how he/
> she wants to manage the login information.

And if FileZilla wanted to make use of this possibility, they had to
(let me check the list of supported platforms):

- Support the Gnome keyring
- Support KWallet (KDE)
- Support this MacOS thingy
- Think about something for Windows

and someone would still decide that their favourite environment™ is
missing and complain about FileZilla being a security problem.

Sure, all that can be done, but it is certainly not the job of an
application to secure user data, that’s the job of the OS.

Best regards,

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Re: Debian's grub doesn't detect Ubuntu

2012-06-30 Thread John W. Foster
On Thu, 2012-06-28 at 13:51 +0300, Mika Suomalainen wrote: 
> On 27.06.2012 18:35, Helgi Örn Helgason wrote:
> > On 27 June 2012 07:37, Mika Suomalainen  
> > wrote:
> >> > Hi,
> >> >
> >> > I have three OSes on this computer. They are Debian Sid, Ubuntu Precise
> >> > and Windows 7.
> >> >
> >> > It seems that Debian's grub can only detect Debian and Windows 7, but
> >> > not Ubuntu.
> >> >
> >> > I have tried Googling and running update-grub some times, but I haven't
> >> > found anything useful.
> >> >
> >> > What should I try now?
> >> >
> > Did you mount the Ubuntu partition before running update-grub?
> > If not, then try that. Usually that will help.
> 
> Thank you for your reply.
> 
> I tried mounting all partitions now and running update-grub after
> reading your email, but it didn't seem to work. I am still seeing only
> Debian and Windows 7 in GRUB.
> 

Try running update-grub on the Ubuntu partition. If these are on
partitions on a single disk then make sure that you don't writ this
Ubuntu results to the MBR. You just need to regenerate grub.cfg for
Ubuntu. Then do the same for Debian  but tell grub to write to the MBR.
If these are on separate disks then have the ubuntu update write to the
boot partition on the disk that it is installed on. Then have debian
write to the MBR. I expect that the MBR is on a Windows 7 disk that is
mounted as your start up disk as Win7 does not play well elsewise. If
possible & you have these on separate disks then change the boot
sequrence in you system bios to have your Debian disk as the first boot
disk. I have such a setup. Debian, Ubuntu, Linux Mint, Windows 7 pro in
that order, Each on its own disk.
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gnome cannot start without kde

2012-06-30 Thread Andrey S. Rybak

hi all!
I use gnome on testing branch of debian.
Some time ago next strange thing was happened.
In time of starting my computer i cannot achive even command prompt. 
Some infinite looping was occuring. But if i choose recovering regime  
of downloading there are no problem.
This infinite loop disappear if I install KDE. But i can achieve only 
command prompt and after running startx command I get gnome environment 
on my screen however.

If I deinstall kde the infinite loop are return.
I think there is problem with gdm3. But where I can look for resolving I 
dont know.

help me, please.


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RE: Wireless network not found

2012-06-30 Thread Nathan D'elboux

Hi Camaleon,
Thanks for your advice,
>>if your wifi card(s) can only work at "g" speed > your AP has to be set to 
>>support only "g" (or "g" alongside "n" → b/g/n).>

So it turned out that the router had a specific frequency set instead of auto 
or all frequencies. I changed that to auto and then i could find the SSID from 
my laptop .. progress!!!
I couldn't authenticate so after i changed the p/w of the SSID i still could 
not get on. The AP was set on b/g/n where once i set it to g/n only i could 
authenticate and get an IP
I kept an eye on /var/log/daemon.log to see what output the kernel had to say. 
Was very informative.
Thanks for your help and point in the right direction!
Nathan

> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
> From: noela...@gmail.com
> Subject: Re: Wireless network not found
> Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2012 16:21:13 +
> 
> On Wed, 27 Jun 2012 07:58:46 +1000, Nathan D'elboux wrote:
> 
> (reply goes to the bottom)
> 
> > On 27/06/2012, at 1:18 AM, "Camaleón"  wrote:
> 
> (...)
> 
> >> Mmm... but your laptop is seeing the AP, what's the problem then, that
> >> you can't pair/associate your wireless card to it? :-?
> >> 
> >> I would run N-M (or whatever applet/tool you are using to configure the
> >> network adapter settings) and then try to establish a connection. While
> >> doing so, open a terminal and as root type:
> >> 
> >> tail -f /var/log/syslog
> >> 
> >> There should be more information about the process that is taking place
> >> in background.
> 
> > Hi Camaleon,
> > 
> > Thanks for your response, I should have clarified earlier sorry that the
> > iwconfig output I pasted below is the output if it connected to my
> > portable hotspot at the time I was writing the email. Not my billion
> > home Adsl that I'm having trouble with
> 
> Ouch!
> 
> > The SSID is currently broadcasted but you are correct also about a/b/g/n
> > is available. I will disable these to make N the only speed available
> 
> Just note that both, the AP and your wireless card(s) have to support the 
> choosen speed, that is, if your wifi card(s) can only work at "g" speed 
> your AP has to be set to support only "g" (or "g" alongside "n" → b/g/n).
> 
> > I will attempt these few tweaks when I get a chance tonight
> 
> Don't forget to review the syslog! :-)
> 
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Re: Filezilla a security risk

2012-06-30 Thread Camaleón
On Sat, 30 Jun 2012 13:46:30 +0200, Claudius Hubig wrote:

> Hello Camaleón,
> 
> Camaleón  wrote:
>> On Sat, 30 Jun 2012 12:45:08 +0200, Denis Witt wrote:
>> > I like how MacOS handle this, nearly every application designed for
>> > MacOS is using the built in Keychain. Of course, if the keychain tool
>> > isn't secure this is a big problem.
>> 
>> That's similar to what GNOME keyring does and you can also use an
>> unsecure keyring by removing the passsord and exposing the stored
>> credentials as plain text but of course, that's up to the user and how
>> he/ she wants to manage the login information.
> 
> And if FileZilla wanted to make use of this possibility, they had to
> (let me check the list of supported platforms):
> 
> - Support the Gnome keyring
> - Support KWallet (KDE)
> - Support this MacOS thingy
> - Think about something for Windows
> 
> and someone would still decide that their favourite environment™ is
> missing and complain about FileZilla being a security problem.

Even more, should FileZilla credentials finally benefit from any of those 
methods, there will be still users that complain because they want to run 
Filezilla client from external USB drive in stand-alone mode.

As I said, the worst computer's enemy is the user :-)

> Sure, all that can be done, but it is certainly not the job of an
> application to secure user data, that’s the job of the OS.

Sure, and when there is no OS in place (e.g., when you remove the hard 
disk and connect it into another system) you have to ensure your data is 
protected and only hard disk encryption can prevent this scenario because 
even the passwords are encrypted can be still cracked.

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Re: gnome cannot start without kde

2012-06-30 Thread Camaleón
On Sat, 30 Jun 2012 15:38:16 +0300, Andrey S. Rybak wrote:

> I use gnome on testing branch of debian. Some time ago next strange
> thing was happened. In time of starting my computer i cannot achive even
> command prompt. Some infinite looping was occuring. 

Any message printed in the screen? How does the loop look like, what are 
you getting (e.g., are you continously going back to the login screen)? 

You can boot in recovery mode and work from there, at least you will able 
to look at the logs (the interesting one should be the "~/.xsession-
errors" file).

> But if i choose recovering regime of downloading there are no problem.

I don't understand what you mean here :-?

> This infinite loop disappear if I install KDE. 

How can you install KDE ifyou  can't even get a command line?

> But i can achieve only command prompt and after running startx command
> I get gnome environment on my screen however.

You will get first the login manager from where you can choose the 
desktop to load.

> If I deinstall kde the infinite loop are return. I think there is
> problem with gdm3. But where I can look for resolving I dont know.
> help me, please.

Look at the Xsession logs.

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Re: gnome cannot start without kde

2012-06-30 Thread Andrey S. Rybak



Any message printed in the screen? How does the loop look like, what are
you getting (e.g., are you continously going back to the login screen)?

exactly, yes


You can boot in recovery mode and work from there, at least you will able
to look at the logs (the interesting one should be the "~/.xsession-
errors" file).


But if i choose recovering regime of downloading there are no problem.

I don't understand what you mean here :-?
I can retrieve command prompt If I choose recovery mode in grub menu at 
booting time



I want erase kde but I can not because after this erasing the loop 
mentioned above occurs. Which setting I should change and where for 
normal gnome starting?

Reading xsession logs does not give me any idea about it.
I think the problem is not in X-session but in gdm3, because gdm3 to kdm 
changing resolves problem with booting gnome3.

Any idea?


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Re: gnome cannot start without kde

2012-06-30 Thread Camaleón
On Sat, 30 Jun 2012 17:37:37 +0300, Andrey S. Rybak wrote:

>> Any message printed in the screen? How does the loop look like, what
>> are you getting (e.g., are you continously going back to the login
>> screen)?

> exactly, yes

Okay, this is important.

>> You can boot in recovery mode and work from there, at least you will
>> able to look at the logs (the interesting one should be the
>> "~/.xsession- errors" file).
>>
>>> But if i choose recovering regime of downloading there are no problem.
>> I don't understand what you mean here :-?
> I can retrieve command prompt If I choose recovery mode in grub menu at
> booting time

Good.
 
> I want erase kde but I can not because after this erasing the loop
> mentioned above occurs. Which setting I should change and where for
> normal gnome starting?
> Reading xsession logs does not give me any idea about it. I think the
> problem is not in X-session but in gdm3, because gdm3 to kdm changing
> resolves problem with booting gnome3. Any idea?

Please, upload the full "~/.xsession-errors" file somewhere (e.g., 
www.pastebin.com) so we can review it. Remember that gdm3 and xsession 
are closely related ;-)

Also, there are some related reports at Debian forums and the portuguese 
mailing list:

http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=79468
http://lists.debian.org/debian-user-portuguese/2012/06/msg00163.html

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Re: grub-install says can't identify filesystem; won't install

2012-06-30 Thread Dan B.

Andrei POPESCU wrote:

On Jo, 28 iun 12, 21:41:23, Dan B. wrote:

When I run "grub-install /dev/sdb1", it says:

  /usr/sbin/grub-setup: error: unable to identify a filesystem in hd1,gpt1; 
safety check can't be performed.

and does not install GRUB2.  (It's still the same if I use the syntax
("grub-install (hd1,gpt1)".)


Are you sure you want to install grub to a partition (and not to the 
MBR)?


No.  Right, I wanted "grub-install /dev/sdb".

(Actually, I did want GRUB to install _part_ of itself to that
partition (it was a GPT bios_grub paritition), so that's why it seemed
normal enough that GRUB referred to "hd1,gpt1", but odd that it was
looking for a filesystem there.

Hmm.  I guess an error-message enhancement-suggestion bug report is in
order...)

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[1/2 OT] How to find the desktop near me?

2012-06-30 Thread lina
Hi,

The desktop installed the Sid (seems not so relevant here.)  Now the
monitor/screen not work; other things are totally fine.

I used to login desktop first and then ssh from laptop,

Now since not be able to log in, how can I find its ip ? so I can
connect from laptop.
or
shall I just find other monitor and connect?

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Re: [1/2 OT] How to find the desktop near me?

2012-06-30 Thread lina
On Sun, Jul 1, 2012 at 12:16 AM, lina  wrote:
> Hi,
>
> The desktop installed the Sid (seems not so relevant here.)  Now the
> monitor/screen not work; other things are totally fine.
>
> I used to login desktop first and then ssh from laptop,
>
> Now since not be able to log in, how can I find its ip ? so I can
> connect from laptop.

Is it cable dependent? I know it sounds very silly, Once I switch the
cable, will the ...

Thanks ahead for your suggestions,

Best regards,

> or
> shall I just find other monitor and connect?
>
> Thanks with best regards,


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Re: [1/2 OT] How to find the desktop near me?

2012-06-30 Thread Johan Grönqvist

2012-06-30 18:16, lina skrev:

Hi,

The desktop installed the Sid (seems not so relevant here.)  Now the
monitor/screen not work; other things are totally fine.

I used to login desktop first and then ssh from laptop,

Now since not be able to log in, how can I find its ip ? so I can
connect from laptop.
or
shall I just find other monitor and connect?



That seems to be the simplest solution, if you have a working monitor.

So you have a working computer, but without monitor, and you want to 
know its IP-address? I assume your laptop is connected to the same 
router as the monitorless computer.


I would have two suggestions.

1) Log into the router, and see what IP-addresses have been given out 
recently, and try connecting to them.


2) Install zenmap on the laptop, find the IP-address range the router 
uses (mine uses 10.0.1.*, most I have used use 192.168.0.* or 
192.168.1.*). Run a quick scan with zenmap on that range of 
IP-addresses, and see which ones have an ssh-port open.


Then try to connect to those.


Regards

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Strange issue during boot

2012-06-30 Thread MR ZenWiz
This may be a little OT, but I've tried other "more relevant" OS lists
and not gotten anywhere.

I recently updated all the computers I use on a regular basis from
Ubuntu 10.10 to Xubuntu 12.04.  To its credit, this boots up to a
graphic of Debian, which is, after all, the underlying OS distro for
all Ubuntu systems.

The problem I'm seeing is that, on one of my machines, my work desktop
specifically, at some point after grub starts up the right kernel,
when the lightdm display manager is coming up, something kills it.
I've looked in dmesg and the system logs, and there's a record of it
getting killed, but not who is doing it.  If I wait until this is
apparent, usually about 30 seconds, then log in directly on a console
and kick it off from the command line, everything is just fine.  I
usually run the machine continuously and only reboot it when the
kernel changes or we have a power shutdown, so it's a minor annoyance,
but it shouldn't happen at all.

I've asked in both the Ubuntu and Xubuntu lists and no one has
ventured an explanation, so I thought I'd ask here.

One significant difference between my home desktop and my home laptop
(which run fine) and my work desktop (which has this problem) is that
the former two both run AMD CPUs (1 Phenom II x6, 1 Turion x2 I think)
and the latter runs with dual quad-core Xeons (Intel), though I have
trouble believing that this is sufficient to explain the problem.

Any suggestions?  I'm also going to join the lightdm list and ask
there (egad - another user list with massive emails - sigh :-).

Thanks.

MR


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Re: [1/2 OT] How to find the desktop near me?

2012-06-30 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Du, 01 iul 12, 00:20:46, lina wrote:
> On Sun, Jul 1, 2012 at 12:16 AM, lina  wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > The desktop installed the Sid (seems not so relevant here.)  Now the
> > monitor/screen not work; other things are totally fine.
> >
> > I used to login desktop first and then ssh from laptop,
> >
> > Now since not be able to log in, how can I find its ip ? so I can
> > connect from laptop.

What do you know about your network configuration? Are the two computers 
in the same subnet? Are there more computers in the same subnet? Could 
you type something blindly at the desktop?
 
> Is it cable dependent? I know it sounds very silly, Once I switch the
> cable, will the ...
> 
> Thanks ahead for your suggestions,
> 
> Best regards,
> 
> > or
> > shall I just find other monitor and connect?

That would be easiest, of course :)

Kind regards,
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Re: [OT] Strange issue during boot

2012-06-30 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Sb, 30 iun 12, 09:31:24, MR ZenWiz wrote:
> This may be a little OT, but I've tried other "more relevant" OS lists
> and not gotten anywhere.

But please (at least) mention [OT] in the subject, like I did.
 
> I recently updated all the computers I use on a regular basis from
> Ubuntu 10.10 to Xubuntu 12.04.  To its credit, this boots up to a
> graphic of Debian, which is, after all, the underlying OS distro for
> all Ubuntu systems.

Ubuntu and most other derivatives are customizing some core packages, 
all we can give is general advice.

> The problem I'm seeing is that, on one of my machines, my work desktop
> specifically, at some point after grub starts up the right kernel,
> when the lightdm display manager is coming up, something kills it.
> I've looked in dmesg and the system logs, and there's a record of it
> getting killed, but not who is doing it.

Show us! (the relevant log snippets)

> If I wait until this is
> apparent, usually about 30 seconds, then log in directly on a console
> and kick it off from the command line, everything is just fine.  I
> usually run the machine continuously and only reboot it when the
> kernel changes or we have a power shutdown, so it's a minor annoyance,
> but it shouldn't happen at all.
> 
> I've asked in both the Ubuntu and Xubuntu lists and no one has
> ventured an explanation, so I thought I'd ask here.
> 
> One significant difference between my home desktop and my home laptop
> (which run fine) and my work desktop (which has this problem) is that
> the former two both run AMD CPUs (1 Phenom II x6, 1 Turion x2 I think)
> and the latter runs with dual quad-core Xeons (Intel), though I have
> trouble believing that this is sufficient to explain the problem.

I would rather suspect something related to Xorg (or whatever Ubuntu is 
using now). For Xorg I would check /var/log/Xorg.0.log *before* starting 
lightdm from the command line.

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Re: [1/2 OT] How to find the desktop near me?

2012-06-30 Thread lina
On Sun, Jul 1, 2012 at 12:33 AM, Andrei POPESCU
 wrote:
> On Du, 01 iul 12, 00:20:46, lina wrote:
>> On Sun, Jul 1, 2012 at 12:16 AM, lina  wrote:
>> > Hi,
>> >
>> > The desktop installed the Sid (seems not so relevant here.)  Now the
>> > monitor/screen not work; other things are totally fine.
>> >
>> > I used to login desktop first and then ssh from laptop,
>> >
>> > Now since not be able to log in, how can I find its ip ? so I can
>> > connect from laptop.
>
> What do you know about your network configuration? Are the two computers
> in the same subnet? Are there more computers in the same subnet? Could
> you type something blindly at the desktop?

I barely know. I guess they are in the same subnet, yes I guess there
are some other Windows computers in other rooms.

I had typed, tried to login several times, ssh showed me Connection
timed out, the ddclient was used.

>
>> Is it cable dependent? I know it sounds very silly, Once I switch the
>> cable, will the ...
>>
>> Thanks ahead for your suggestions,
>>
>> Best regards,
>>
>> > or
>> > shall I just find other monitor and connect?
>
> That would be easiest, of course :)
>
> Kind regards,
> Andrei
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Re: Bridging eth0/br0 & NetworkManager - can they coexist?

2012-06-30 Thread Arun Khan
On Fri, Jun 29, 2012 at 7:32 PM, Steve Dowe  wrote:
> Hello,
>
> I have absolutely no doubt that someone reading this list knows more
> than I do on this.. :)
>
> The issue I'm having, using wheezy, is that if I set up a bridged
> ethernet interface for eth0 (br0), as per instructions on the Debian
> wiki etc, NetworkManager can no longer manage my wired ethernet connection.
>
> If I edit /etc/NetworkManager/NetworkManager.conf and change
>
> [ifupdown]
> managed=false
>
> to
>
> [ifupdown]
> managed=true
>
> then eth0 and br0 both pick up the same IP address.
>
> This is my current /etc/network/interfaces:
>
> # The loopback network interface
> auto lo br0
> iface lo inet loopback
>
> # bridging
> iface br0 inet dhcp
>   bridge_ports eth0
>   bridge_stp off
>   bridge_maxwait 0
>   bridge_fd 0
>
>
> I must be missing something simple here.  Could anyone point me in the
> right direction please?  Has anyone got a working config?
>

When you use bridge:  To the best of my knowledge - the IP is assigned
to the bridge and *not* eth0 the physical interface.   eth0 should
*not* have any IP assigned to it.

I have run into this problem on my laptop to use Linux KVM VMs.

I have solved it by maintaining two /etc/networks/interfaces files like this


$ ls -l /etc/network/interfaces*
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root  17 Jun 25 10:27 /etc/network/interfaces ->
interfaces.debian
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 686 May 21 21:38 /etc/network/interfaces.debian
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root  32 May 21 21:38 /etc/network/interfaces.ubuntu.orig


When I need a bridge with tap interface I link the /etc/interfaces
file to interfaces.debian (NM reports error but I know networking is
fine ...

and when I need WiFI I link /etc/network/interfaces to interfaces.ubuntu.orig



$ cat /etc/network/interfaces.debian

... snip default stuff 

# Set up interfaces manually, avoiding conflicts with, e.g., network manager
iface eth0 inet manual

# Bridge setup
auto br0

iface br0 inet dhcp
pre-up /usr/sbin/tunctl -u  -t tap0
post-down /usr/sbin/tunctl -d tap0
bridge_ports eth0 tap



$ cat /etc/network/interfaces.ubuntu.orig
auto lo
iface lo inet loopback



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Re: [1/2 OT] How to find the desktop near me?

2012-06-30 Thread lina
On Sun, Jul 1, 2012 at 12:27 AM, Johan Grönqvist
 wrote:
> 2012-06-30 18:16, lina skrev:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> The desktop installed the Sid (seems not so relevant here.)  Now the
>> monitor/screen not work; other things are totally fine.
>>
>> I used to login desktop first and then ssh from laptop,
>>
>> Now since not be able to log in, how can I find its ip ? so I can
>> connect from laptop.
>> or
>> shall I just find other monitor and connect?
>>
>
> That seems to be the simplest solution, if you have a working monitor.
>
> So you have a working computer, but without monitor, and you want to know
> its IP-address? I assume your laptop is connected to the same router as the
> monitorless computer.
>
> I would have two suggestions.
>
> 1) Log into the router, and see what IP-addresses have been given out
> recently, and try connecting to them.

>
> 2) Install zenmap on the laptop, find the IP-address range the router uses
> (mine uses 10.0.1.*, most I have used use 192.168.0.* or 192.168.1.*). Run a
> quick scan with zenmap on that range of IP-addresses, and see which ones
> have an ssh-port open.

Thanks for your suggestions, what does this stand for in my syslog
dhclient: DHCPREQUEST on eth0 to 172.21.4.128 port 67

There are some network printers and lots of other when I tried
172.21.48.*  mine is inet addr:172.21.48.67

Discovered open port 22/tcp on 172.21.48.67
Discovered open port 22/tcp on 172.21.48.216
Discovered open port 22/tcp on 172.21.48.255
Discovered open port 22/tcp on 172.21.48.131
Discovered open port 22/tcp on 172.21.48.221
Discovered open port 22/tcp on 172.21.48.222
Discovered open port 22/tcp on 172.21.48.135

is 131 is mine desktop one or 135?  Is it going to be impolite if I
try connect one by one?

>
> Then try to connect to those.

Thanks with best regards,
>
>
> Regards
>
> Johan
>
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Re: gnome cannot start without kde

2012-06-30 Thread Andrey S. Rybak

pastbin does not take my log for their size :)) (over 5mb)


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Re: [1/2 OT] How to find the desktop near me?

2012-06-30 Thread lina
On Sun, Jul 1, 2012 at 12:27 AM, Johan Grönqvist
 wrote:
> 2012-06-30 18:16, lina skrev:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> The desktop installed the Sid (seems not so relevant here.)  Now the
>> monitor/screen not work; other things are totally fine.
>>
>> I used to login desktop first and then ssh from laptop,
>>
>> Now since not be able to log in, how can I find its ip ? so I can
>> connect from laptop.
>> or
>> shall I just find other monitor and connect?
>>
>
> That seems to be the simplest solution, if you have a working monitor.
>
> So you have a working computer, but without monitor, and you want to know
> its IP-address? I assume your laptop is connected to the same router as the
> monitorless computer.
>
> I would have two suggestions.
>
> 1) Log into the router, and see what IP-addresses have been given out
> recently, and try connecting to them.
>
> 2) Install zenmap on the laptop, find the IP-address range the router uses
> (mine uses 10.0.1.*, most I have used use 192.168.0.* or 192.168.1.*). Run a
> quick scan with zenmap on that range of IP-addresses, and see which ones
> have an ssh-port open.
>
> Then try to connect to those.

I shutdown, use zenmap, restart and scan again,

but the newly two IPs I still failed to connect.

Thanks for your suggestions, tomorrow I will borrow some monitor,
don't want to buy one. haha ..
>
>
> Regards
>
> Johan
>
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Re: gnome cannot start without kde

2012-06-30 Thread Camaleón
On Sat, 30 Jun 2012 19:09:50 +0300, Andrey S. Rybak wrote:

> pastbin does not take my log for their size :)) (over 5mb)

The enormous size of the file tells me the problem is logged there :-)

Upload the file elsewhere, for instance:

http://www.sendspace.com/

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Re: [1/2 OT] How to find the desktop near me?

2012-06-30 Thread Camaleón
On Sun, 01 Jul 2012 00:16:22 +0800, lina wrote:

> The desktop installed the Sid (seems not so relevant here.)  Now the
> monitor/screen not work; other things are totally fine.

Is hardware that broke?

> I used to login desktop first and then ssh from laptop,
> 
> Now since not be able to log in, how can I find its ip ? so I can
> connect from laptop.
> or
> shall I just find other monitor and connect?

How about "arp -n"?

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Re: [1/2 OT] How to find the desktop near me?

2012-06-30 Thread Lisi
On Saturday 30 June 2012 17:27:52 Johan Grönqvist wrote:
 >
> > I used to login desktop first and then ssh from laptop,
> >
> > Now since not be able to log in, how can I find its ip ? so I can
> > connect from laptop.
> > or
> > shall I just find other monitor and connect?
>
> That seems to be the simplest solution, if you have a working monitor.
>
> So you have a working computer, but without monitor, and you want to
> know its IP-address? I assume your laptop is connected to the same
> router as the monitorless computer.
>
> I would have two suggestions.
>
> 1) Log into the router, and see what IP-addresses have been given out
> recently, and try connecting to them.

I did exactly this the other day, when faced with logging into another 
computer to which I had not at that moment got physical access.  It was easy, 
and worked fine.  

It probably helped that I knew what was where on my router.

Lisi



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Re: [1/2 OT] How to find the desktop near me?

2012-06-30 Thread Lisi
On Saturday 30 June 2012 18:19:41 lina wrote:
> On Sun, Jul 1, 2012 at 12:27 AM, Johan Grönqvist
>
>  wrote:
> > 2012-06-30 18:16, lina skrev:
> >> Hi,
> >>
> >> The desktop installed the Sid (seems not so relevant here.)  Now the
> >> monitor/screen not work; other things are totally fine.
> >>
> >> I used to login desktop first and then ssh from laptop,
> >>
> >> Now since not be able to log in, how can I find its ip ? so I can
> >> connect from laptop.
> >> or
> >> shall I just find other monitor and connect?
> >
> > That seems to be the simplest solution, if you have a working monitor.
> >
> > So you have a working computer, but without monitor, and you want to know
> > its IP-address? I assume your laptop is connected to the same router as
> > the monitorless computer.
> >
> > I would have two suggestions.
> >
> > 1) Log into the router, and see what IP-addresses have been given out
> > recently, and try connecting to them.
> >
> > 2) Install zenmap on the laptop, find the IP-address range the router
> > uses (mine uses 10.0.1.*, most I have used use 192.168.0.* or
> > 192.168.1.*). Run a quick scan with zenmap on that range of IP-addresses,
> > and see which ones have an ssh-port open.
> >
> > Then try to connect to those.
>
> I shutdown, use zenmap, restart and scan again,
>
> but the newly two IPs I still failed to connect.
>
> Thanks for your suggestions, tomorrow I will borrow some monitor,
> don't want to buy one. haha ..

Have you tried the method of seeing what devices, by IP, are connected to your 
router?  It does not sound as though you have a massive network.

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Re: [1/2 OT] How to find the desktop near me?

2012-06-30 Thread Erwan David
On 30/06/12 19:51, Lisi wrote:
> On Saturday 30 June 2012 17:27:52 Johan Grönqvist wrote:
>  >
>>> I used to login desktop first and then ssh from laptop,
>>>
>>> Now since not be able to log in, how can I find its ip ? so I can
>>> connect from laptop.
>>> or
>>> shall I just find other monitor and connect?
>>
>> That seems to be the simplest solution, if you have a working monitor.
>>
>> So you have a working computer, but without monitor, and you want to
>> know its IP-address? I assume your laptop is connected to the same
>> router as the monitorless computer.
>>
>> I would have two suggestions.
>>
>> 1) Log into the router, and see what IP-addresses have been given out
>> recently, and try connecting to them.
> 
> I did exactly this the other day, when faced with logging into another 
> computer to which I had not at that moment got physical access.  It was easy, 
> and worked fine.  
> 
> It probably helped that I knew what was where on my router.
> 

Without being on the router, but being on the same network, nmap may help.



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VMBuilder for for squeeze

2012-06-30 Thread anotst01
Dear list,

I need a tool to create VM images.

Is there something like VMBuilder, but compatible with squeeze?

Thanks a lot!

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Re: VMBuilder for for squeeze

2012-06-30 Thread Camaleón
On Sat, 30 Jun 2012 11:40:44 -0700, anotst01 wrote:

> I need a tool to create VM images.
> 
> Is there something like VMBuilder, but compatible with squeeze?

There's a repo in launchpad for that tool, have you tried it? :-?

http://wiki.debian.org/VMBuilder

In Debian repos I see the "virtinst" package but can't commen't as I 
never used it before.

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Re: [1/2 OT] How to find the desktop near me?

2012-06-30 Thread Camaleón
El 2012-07-01 a las 02:11 +0800, lina escribió:

(resending to the list)

> On 1 Jul, 2012, at 1:35, Camaleón  wrote:
> 
> > On Sun, 01 Jul 2012 00:16:22 +0800, lina wrote:
> > 
> >> The desktop installed the Sid (seems not so relevant here.)  Now the
> >> monitor/screen not work; other things are totally fine.
> > 
> > Is hardware that broke?
> 
> The electrical wire. It gave me some scary sounds.

Just the cable or the power supply?

> >> I used to login desktop first and then ssh from laptop,
> >> 
> >> Now since not be able to log in, how can I find its ip ? so I can
> >> connect from laptop.
> >> or
> >> shall I just find other monitor and connect?
> > 
> > How about "arp -n"?
> 
> I will try tomorrow.  I have not used it for long.  I guess the password I 
> had tried not correct.  

What password do you mean? :-?

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Re: Hash Sum mismatch......

2012-06-30 Thread Chris Bannister
On Fri, Jun 29, 2012 at 12:59:23PM +0300, Andrei POPESCU wrote:
> On Vi, 29 iun 12, 14:25:26, Chris Bannister wrote:
> > 
> > JFTR, problems with third party repositories are off topic on this list.
> > The repository 'www.deb-multimedia.org' is not affiliated with Debian in
> > anyway and in fact can be a possible source of problems.
> 
> Don't you think this is a bit harsh? I'm glad that Debian proper is 

It certainly sounds a bit harsh, and maybe could have been worded
better.  If you report a bug using reportbug and have the
www.deb-multimedia.org repository enabled you won't get much help.

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Re: gnome cannot start without kde

2012-06-30 Thread Camaleón
On Sat, 30 Jun 2012 17:24:04 +, Camaleón wrote:

(...)

> Upload the file elsewhere, for instance:
> 
> http://www.sendspace.com/

(you send me the link in private, thanks)

Wow! There are tons of errors... Okay, let me upload to pastebin the full 
log for the last session you opened a day ago:

http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=YbSVyGNG

And this other paste is the first you have in your ".xsession-errors" 
file. File, which by the way, is not being rotated...

http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=WDciqMC6

There's a difference between them, it seems you were using two login 
managers:

Xsession: X session started for ra at Fri Jun 29 13:19:07 EEST 2012
/etc/gdm3/Xsession: Beginning session setup...

Other than that, I don't know from where to start. You only get but 
errors and warnings all around but I can't see gdm3 crashing... unless 
this message can be related to the crash:

***
Received signal:1->'Hangup'g_dbus_connection_real_closed: Remote peer 
vanished with error: Underlying GIOStream returned 0 bytes on an async 
read (g-io-error-quark, 0). Exiting.

Received signal:15->'Terminated'
***

You were using wheezy, right? I'm not sure what to suggest to solve that 
messing... I would try to create a new user and login with it (in a hope 
the problem is limited to your current profile) or install XDM or LightDM
(a different login manager) so at least you can still getting into your 
GNOME session while the problem is resolved.

Another thing to try is starting from "init 1" and then run "startx" so 
you can see in the screen the actual errors coming up when gdm3 is trying 
to start.

Let's see if someone can give you more hints.

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Re: Hash Sum mismatch......

2012-06-30 Thread Chris Bannister
On Fri, Jun 29, 2012 at 05:01:01PM +1000, Charlie wrote:
>  On Fri, 29 Jun 2012 14:25:26 +1200 "Chris Bannister
>  cbannis...@slingshot.co.nz" suggested this:
> 
> >JFTR, problems with third party repositories are off topic on this
> >list. The repository 'www.deb-multimedia.org' is not affiliated with
> >Debian in anyway and in fact can be a possible source of problems.
> 
> Apologies Chris, I had no idea this was the case, and won't do it again
> if you please tell me what other third party repositories there are?

You could post any problems with 3rd party repositories to:

Offtopic discussions among Debian users and developers:
http://lists.alioth.debian.org/mailman/listinfo/d-community-offtopic

But I feel you'd be better off approaching the source of the problem.

To test if it *is* a 3rd party problem: comment it out and if the
problem goes away then it is a 3rd party problem. 

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Re: PS2 Keyboard not working after latest update

2012-06-30 Thread Chris Bannister
On Fri, Jun 29, 2012 at 09:43:56AM +0100, James Allsopp wrote:
> Hi,
> Tried both of those but nothing. I have a theory that it might be a Udev
> problem, but can't be certain. Does anyone have any ideas why a problem
> like that might arise?

Do you have any data to backup your theory?

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Re: why ABIWORD?

2012-06-30 Thread Doug

On 06/30/2012 05:58 AM, Joe wrote:

On Sat, 30 Jun 2012 11:16:04 +0200
Francesco Pietra  wrote:


/snip/


If someone demands a Word document, I would normally send an RTF file,
which is somewhat more predictable and will open in any Word, and even
then I'd use quite large margins. I do actually have a full Office 2007
on Windows 7, but there has to be money involved before I'll use it. I
hate Word more than possibly any other piece of MS software, except
perhaps Edlin (which is still part of Windows 7).


A friend used to send me files saved in .rtf from a MacIntosh, and
a good fraction of those gave me fits, no matter what I tried to
open them with.  The problem was that the entire body of text
would overflow the right-hand side of the page, losing some of it.
Sometimes it would not open correctly in OO or LO, but open OK in
WordPerfect, sometimes not.
Since I have all three OO-type programs--OO, LO, and
Symphony on the Linux machine, and WP on the Windows machine,
most of the time I could open the file, but there were a few times
not at all.  Now I have him send the files in MS .doc for Mac, probably
a version from the early 2000s, since he doesn't have the latest
Intel Mac, and Symphony will open these without a problem.
(Probably the other two OO-types would also.)
I save files that I have edited in .doc format from Symphony, and
his Mac reads them fine.
I gave up on AbiWord. It wouldn't open those files either, and it has
some other problems that I couldn't live with--I forget what.

Symphony is not in my repos, but is downloadable in various
formats for Linux and, I think, Windows.  It has some gotchas also,
but it mostly looks and acts "finished" which LO and OO do not.

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Re: VMBuilder for for squeeze

2012-06-30 Thread anotst01
virt-install requires user input (mouse, keyboard). I should have said,
I need an unattended vm creator.

VMBuilder from launchpad can only create Ubuntu images.

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Re: why ABIWORD?

2012-06-30 Thread Weaver
I use both, for different reasons and don't intermix them.

For print off office literature, Abiword is great and LibreOffice has its
strengths.

Then again, for other things, LyX is good.

All good things come in time.
Regards,

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Reports of (Debian?) Linux kernel 2.6.32 livelocking when notified of leap second

2012-06-30 Thread Andy Smith
Hello,

Has anyone been seeing this sort of thing in the last 22-ish hours?

http://serverfault.com/questions/403732/anyone-else-experiencing-high-rates-of-linux-server-crashes-today

I've run adjtimex -p on all of my servers and they're all reporting
status 17, which as far as I can tell means they've already been sent
adjtimex()by ntpd and will add a leap second at midnight.

As I understand the reports so far, the livelock would happen at the
point where ntpd sends the adjtime(), soif they haven't locked
already then they aren't going to.

Cheers,
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Re: Re (3): Apparent disagreement between df and cp.

2012-06-30 Thread Chris Davies
Keith McKenzie  wrote:
> It was about cp reporting 'no space left on device', whilst df said that
> there was space available.

The OS reported "No space left on device" (or more accurately, errno 28:
ENOSPC) to cp. Rather than trying to guess whether this really meant
what it said or whether it was using its alternative meaning, cp simply
passed this on to the user.

Chris


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Anfrage zum Linktausch

2012-06-30 Thread Schnaepperle.de
Hallo,

Ich möchte gerne Links mit Ihnen austauschen.

Ich besitze 3 Seiten:

1. www.schnaepperle.de
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Schicken sie mir Ihren Link-text und URL, dann werde ich Ihren Link auf
meiner Homepage veröffentlichen. Ich möchte dann aber auch, dass Sie meinen 
Link auf
Ihrer Homepage veröffentlichen.

Wenn Sie interessiert sind, setzen Sie sich für weitere
Erörterungen mit mir in Verbindung.

Mit freundlichen Grüßen


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Re: Bridging eth0/br0 & NetworkManager - can they coexist?

2012-06-30 Thread Pascal Hambourg
Arun Khan a écrit :
> 
> When you use bridge:  To the best of my knowledge - the IP is assigned
> to the bridge and *not* eth0 the physical interface.   eth0 should
> *not* have any IP assigned to it.

Except in some very specific situations.
Exemple : you want the box act as a bridge with some protocols (e.g.
IPv6) and as a router with other protocols (e.g. IPv4, ARP). You do this
by adding rules in ebtables' BROUTING chain. Then the physical
interfaces have IPv4 addresses, and the bridge only has IPv6 addresses.


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Re: Bridging eth0/br0 & NetworkManager - can they coexist?

2012-06-30 Thread Tom H
On Fri, Jun 29, 2012 at 10:02 AM, Steve Dowe  wrote:
>
> The issue I'm having, using wheezy, is that if I set up a bridged
> ethernet interface for eth0 (br0), as per instructions on the Debian
> wiki etc, NetworkManager can no longer manage my wired ethernet connection.
>
> If I edit /etc/NetworkManager/NetworkManager.conf and change
>
> [ifupdown]
> managed=false
>
> to
>
> [ifupdown]
> managed=true
>
> then eth0 and br0 both pick up the same IP address.
>
> This is my current /etc/network/interfaces:
>
> # The loopback network interface
> auto lo br0
> iface lo inet loopback
>
> # bridging
> iface br0 inet dhcp
>bridge_ports eth0
>bridge_stp off
>bridge_maxwait 0
>bridge_fd 0

NM's now doing bridging but has it been patched to understand Debian's
"/etc/network/interfaces"? (It  understands Fedora's ifcfg-style
network configuration.)

Does bridging work without the additional settings below?


auto eth0
iface eth0 inet manual



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Re: Joining pcl and jpg in Gimp.

2012-06-30 Thread Chris Bannister
On Fri, Jun 29, 2012 at 05:28:23PM -0800, peasth...@shaw.ca wrote:
> I have a pcl file to join to a jpg to make a collage.
> 
> Gimp can not import pcl directly but I can try to convert 
> it to jpg or png using netpbm.  Can anyone recommend a 
> favourite solution to this problem?

Do a google search on:
pcl file imagemagick

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Iceweasel quits on ^Q even when options and add-on say not to

2012-06-30 Thread Carl Fink
I'm using Iceweasel 10.0.5 under Wheezy. I fairly often press ^Q (quit) when
I mean ^W (close tab).

And Iceweasel closes, with no confirmation dialog and even if multiple tabs
are open.

I have set the option "Warn me when closing multiple tabs". It doesn't.

I even installed the extension "Show Quit Warning". It doesn't either.

Any suggestions on how to proceed, or should I just file a bug?

Other installed extensions include:

Adblock Plus
DownloadHelper
DownThemAll
Flashblock
Image Zoom
Newsfox

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Kmail2

2012-06-30 Thread GeraldC
Hi  to all,
Although I run a debian server it does not pick up emails.
I use another Linux OS for the workstation. (PCLinuxOS 2012.06-64 bit), kmail2 
just does not work.
No error messages it just does not send or receive mails.
I appear to have it set up correctly but nothing happens.
It does appear that Kwallet is not there although it is installed, and the 
only error ,if you can call it that, is I get a prompt asking for my password, 
saying that the previous attempt failed.
Any help in setting up kmail2 gratefully received.
Gerald


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left click does not work

2012-06-30 Thread 严海东
Hi to all:
  I run debian6/gnome in my PC, and after installing some
softwares,such as scim,chrome,
  the left click of touchpad dose not work.
  It does not work by using a mouse either.
  And the right mouse button works fine and the mouse tracks fine
  Any help in this problem?


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Kmail2

2012-06-30 Thread Gerald
Hi to all,
Although I run Debian on my server it does not pick up email.
My workstation is yet another Linux distro, I am trying to set up kmail2 
and it will not send or receive any email.
I was wondering if anyone out in the great blue younder can point me in 
the right direction for solveing his problem.
Gerlad


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Re: Reports of (Debian?) Linux kernel 2.6.32 livelocking when notified of leap second

2012-06-30 Thread Andrew Reid
> Hello,
> 
> Has anyone been seeing this sort of thing in the last 22-ish hours?
> 
> http://serverfault.com/questions/403732/anyone-else-experiencing-high-rates
> -of-linux-server-crashes-today

  I saw the buzz about this on Slashdot, but as far as I can tell 
none of my systems are having any problems.  I have several 
Debian "squeeze" 2.6.32 64-bit systems, a mix of file servers,
cluster nodes, and desktop workstation systems.  I'm off-site,
it being the weekend, but there's no evidence of trouble.

  I did see a lot of log traffic at "23:59:60" UTC, so the kernels
have the info.  If they're going to lock up at local midnight,
well, I guess I'll find out in half an hour.

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Re: [1/2 OT] How to find the desktop near me?

2012-06-30 Thread lina
On Sun, Jul 1, 2012 at 3:43 AM, Camaleón  wrote:
> El 2012-07-01 a las 02:11 +0800, lina escribió:
>
> (resending to the list)
>
>> On 1 Jul, 2012, at 1:35, Camaleón  wrote:
>>
>> > On Sun, 01 Jul 2012 00:16:22 +0800, lina wrote:
>> >
>> >> The desktop installed the Sid (seems not so relevant here.)  Now the
>> >> monitor/screen not work; other things are totally fine.
>> >
>> > Is hardware that broke?
>>
>> The electrical wire. It gave me some scary sounds.
>
> Just the cable or the power supply?
Kinda of very silly though,
the electrical wire connected to monitors didn't connect well,
so there was some sound of the leakage of electricity. I thought the
monitor had problem.

>
>> >> I used to login desktop first and then ssh from laptop,
>> >>
>> >> Now since not be able to log in, how can I find its ip ? so I can
>> >> connect from laptop.
>> >> or
>> >> shall I just find other monitor and connect?
>> >
>> > How about "arp -n"?
>>
>> I will try tomorrow.  I have not used it for long.  I guess the password I 
>> had tried not correct.
>
> What password do you mean? :-?

I checked. Strangely there was no IP detected at the first minutes I
logged in, it gets well after ifup eth0.

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