Re: System hangs due to NFS share

[Scott Ferguson]

On 24/01/12 18:50, Sylvain wrote:
> 2012/1/23 Frank :
>> On Mon, 2012-01-23 at 11:47 +0100, Sylvain wrote:
>>
>>> I already tried this option too, but it didn't help. Also according to
>>> the manpage:
>>>
 The intr / nointr mount option is deprecated after kernel 2.6.25. �Only 
 SIGKILL can interrupt a pending NFS operation on these kernels, and �if 
 �specified, this mount option is ignored to provide backwards 
 compatibility with older kernels.
>>
>> OK, the man page is not yet available on lenny.
>>
>> Have you tried to kill the process using SIGKILL? What happens if you
>> do? I assume this behaviour is related to the state TASK_KILLABLE which
>> was introduced in kernel 2.6.25. In previous kernels a process waiting
>> for I/O was in TASK_UNINTERRUPTIBLE and never get the signal you send
>> it.
>>
>> Frank
> 
> I tried to SIGKILL the [nfsiod] process but it didn't get killed. I
> also tried to kill the various rpcbind processes but it didn't change
> anything.
> 
> I also tried autofs as Scott suggested, but the same problem occured
> when I unplugged the network cable (most of the system hangs, can't
> reboot nor halt). Here's how I configured autofs:
> 
> /etc/auto.misc:
> bazinga -retry=1,rw,hard,size=8192,wsize=8192 192.168.2.77:/DataVolume/Public
> 
> /etc/auto.master:
> /misc   /etc/auto.misc --timeout 20
> 
> Here's what I found in the syslog:
> 
>> Jan 23 22:59:17 cid kernel: [  510.944160] nfs: server 192.168.2.77 not 
>> responding, still trying
>> Jan 23 23:01:22 cid kernel: [  635.616161] nfs: server 192.168.2.77 not 
>> responding, still trying
>> Jan 23 23:01:46 cid sm-notify[841]: DNS resolution of Bazinga.local failed; 
>> retrying later
>> Jan 23 23:03:51 cid sm-notify[841]: DNS resolution of Bazinga.local failed; 
>> retrying later
>> Jan 23 23:05:56 cid sm-notify[841]: DNS resolution of Bazinga.local failed; 
>> retrying later
>> Jan 23 23:07:56 cid sm-notify[841]: Unable to notify Bazinga.local, giving up
> 
> I'm not sure why it's trying to resolve the "bazinga.local" name, and
> even when it gave up with the resolution, it didn't unfreeze anything.
> Also nfs seems to be still trying to reach the server (the cable was
> unplugged at 22:56).
> 
> Thanks for your help,
> Sylvain
> 
> 
What do you have in /etc/hosts?


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Re: System hangs due to NFS share

[Tom H]

On Tue, Jan 24, 2012 at 2:50 AM, Sylvain  wrote:
> 2012/1/23 Frank :
>> On Mon, 2012-01-23 at 11:47 +0100, Sylvain wrote:
>>
>>> I already tried this option too, but it didn't help. Also according to
>>> the manpage:
>>>
>>> > The intr / nointr mount option is deprecated after kernel 2.6.25.  Only 
>>> > SIGKILL can interrupt a pending NFS operation on these kernels, and  if  
>>> > specified, this mount option is ignored to provide backwards 
>>> > compatibility with older kernels.
>>
>> OK, the man page is not yet available on lenny.
>>
>> Have you tried to kill the process using SIGKILL? What happens if you
>> do? I assume this behaviour is related to the state TASK_KILLABLE which
>> was introduced in kernel 2.6.25. In previous kernels a process waiting
>> for I/O was in TASK_UNINTERRUPTIBLE and never get the signal you send
>> it.
>>
>> Frank
>
> I tried to SIGKILL the [nfsiod] process but it didn't get killed. I
> also tried to kill the various rpcbind processes but it didn't change
> anything.
>
> I also tried autofs as Scott suggested, but the same problem occured
> when I unplugged the network cable (most of the system hangs, can't
> reboot nor halt). Here's how I configured autofs:
>
> /etc/auto.misc:
> bazinga -retry=1,rw,hard,size=8192,wsize=8192 192.168.2.77:/DataVolume/Public
>
> /etc/auto.master:
> /misc   /etc/auto.misc --timeout 20
>
> Here's what I found in the syslog:
>
>> Jan 23 22:59:17 cid kernel: [  510.944160] nfs: server 192.168.2.77 not 
>> responding, still trying
>> Jan 23 23:01:22 cid kernel: [  635.616161] nfs: server 192.168.2.77 not 
>> responding, still trying
>> Jan 23 23:01:46 cid sm-notify[841]: DNS resolution of Bazinga.local failed; 
>> retrying later
>> Jan 23 23:03:51 cid sm-notify[841]: DNS resolution of Bazinga.local failed; 
>> retrying later
>> Jan 23 23:05:56 cid sm-notify[841]: DNS resolution of Bazinga.local failed; 
>> retrying later
>> Jan 23 23:07:56 cid sm-notify[841]: Unable to notify Bazinga.local, giving up
>
> I'm not sure why it's trying to resolve the "bazinga.local" name, and
> even when it gave up with the resolution, it didn't unfreeze anything.
> Also nfs seems to be still trying to reach the server (the cable was
> unplugged at 22:56).

It's avahi that's trying to resolve "Bazinga" through "Bazinga.local".

Is Bazinga the hostname of 192.168.2.77?

Did ifs quit after avahi failed?


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Re: server crashes on debian.

[Joe]

On Mon, 23 Jan 2012 15:19:50 -0500
Joey L  wrote:

> thanks for the input -
> I am suspecting hardware myself..but can see anything in the logs or
> elsewhere. It seems that when i run a backup script in screen - it
> seems to be putting the server in a freezing state (can not get the
> numlock light to come on when pressed).
> The script only does a mysqldump and tar  - that is all.
> 
> any other thoughts would be appriciated.
> 
If there's any log of a terminal event anywhere, it will be in either
syslog or the kernel log. But if it's a problem which can be logged, it
can also be survived, and having written something useful to syslog,
the kernel is not then going to crash hard. I don't think you'll find
anything logged directly, the best you can hope for is some kind of
warning about disc or RAM errors or similar, during the backup before
the crash. That's not very likely, as such errors would probably corrupt
the backup and almost certainly the backup will terminate early,
without the machine crashing.

None of that software (in Stable at least) is new and potentially
flaky, and it must be heavily tested by many people every day. I'd
still go with hardware, perhaps being unusually stressed by the backup.

Is it possible to change the backup destination type i.e. if it's going
to a local disc at the moment, send it to a USB drive or network share,
or vice versa? Can you monitor and log the CPU temperature and fan speed
during the backup?

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Re: ext4 extends implementation question

[Alberto Fuentes]

That's not how extents work. What you are describing is a large block
granularity, not extents-based allocation. There is no reason why the
next allocation can't happen like this:

[X][ ][ ][ ][ ][ ][ ][ ][ ][ ][ ][ ]
[X][X][X][X][ ][ ][ ][ ][ ][ ][ ][ ]
[X][X][X][X][X][X][X][X][A][A][A][A]
[X][X][ ][ ][ ][ ][ ][ ][ ][ ][ ][ ]
[X][X][X][ ][ ][ ][ ][ ][ ][ ][ ][ ]
[-][-][-][-][-][-][-][-][-][-][-][-]
[-][-][-][-][-][-][-][-][-][-][-][-]


That was pretty much my question, ty very much :)

greets!
aL


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Clipboard issues

[bhasker]

Hi all,

  I am seeing this issue on my debian wheezy/sid. The clipboard contents 
are disappearing when the window is closed. Can someone help me please if 
they have to faced this issue ?


 Steps:
open any window application (even xterm )
Mark the contents of the window (which is copying )

a) Close this window and open another window and try to paste the 
copied text. The copied text has disappeared and last text is remembered 
and pasted!

b) before closing the window if you try to paste the paste works fine.

thanks all


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Re: how to download the packages in Debian testing non-free before installing?

[lee]

Andrei POPESCU  writes:

> On Lu, 23 ian 12, 15:55:04, lee wrote:
>> Andrei Popescu  writes:
>> > No, you don't need LVM and even the grub in squeeze can boot from md 
>> > devices.
>> 
>> Apparently it can´t boot from RAID on this laptop.  I have tried a lot
>> of different configurations, i. e. with LVM and without and with
>> different partition layouts.  Either grub couldn´t be installed or when
>> booting the system from the harddisk after the installation finished,
>> grub got stuck at the "Welcome to grub" message before showing the boot
>> menu.
>
> Other than "make sure you are using grub2" (package grub-pc) I can give 
> you no advise. The only system with RAID I do maintain was installed via 
> debootstrap, not D-I.

It seems to be grub2, since grub-pc v. 1.99-14 and grub2-common are
installed.

Perhaps it´s some problem with the hardware in this laptop that makes it
fail ... like the graphical installer cannot be used because the mouse
doesn´t work in it (Synaptics touchpad). I can´t seem to get the
discrete graphics card to produce any output on the screen, either,
though apparently I can switch between the cards just fine. I might have
to make another thread about that ...


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What´s wrong with fetchmail? (Re: POP3 in Debian)

[lee]

Jon Dowland  writes:

> I'd strongly recommend using something *other* than fetchmail: getmail
> or mpop are options.

What´s wrong with fetchmail?


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Re: xfs backup system vs rsynce

[Jon Dowland]

On 23/01/12 14:27, Nicolas Bercher wrote:


Take care with --remove-older-than option, as the man page says:

"Note that snapshots of deleted files are covered by this operation.
Thus if you deleted a file two weeks ago, backed up immediately after‐
wards, and then ran rdiff-backup with --remove-older-than 10D today, no
trace of that file would remain."


This is an inevitable consequence of any backup system that backs up to
somewhere with a limited amount of space.  The alternative is to only 
grow in size.



You can loose valuable old files. So, one thing I really miss in
rdiff-backup is an option to remove backups older than 
AND newer than . Thus, I could reduce daily
backups to weekly, etc. But still, I can loose files.

In a near future, I think I'll switch to venti(1) and/or vbackup(8) of
"Plan 9 port":


Take a look at bup in Debian, which doesn't remove old increments, but 
stores the backup files in a git-formatted archive (so chunked and 
de-duplicated, with sliding window compression and other such magic)


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Re: What´s wrong with fetchmail? (Re: POP3 in Debian)

[Anthony Campbell]

On 24 Jan 2012, lee wrote:
> Jon Dowland  writes:
> 
> > I'd strongly recommend using something *other* than fetchmail: getmail
> > or mpop are options.
> 
> What´s wrong with fetchmail?
> 
> 

It's fine if it works for you, but some years ago I had problems
authenticting myself to a mail server with fetchmail. I switched to
getmail4 and it worked instantly. I can't remember the details now but
I've always used getmail4 since them.

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Re: What´s wrong with fetchmail? (Re: POP3 in Debian)

[Tom H]

On Tue, Jan 24, 2012 at 4:47 AM, lee  wrote:
> Jon Dowland  writes:
>
>> I'd strongly recommend using something *other* than fetchmail: getmail
>> or mpop are options.
>
> What´s wrong with fetchmail?

http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2012/01/msg01476.html


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Re: Microsoft Natural Ergonomic 4000 keyboard

[Andreas Weber]

On 2012-01-24 02:08, Ashton Fagg wrote:
> Can anyone tell me how the Microsoft Natural Ergonomics 4000 keyboard
> works with Debian (and if possible, also with XFCE) in regards to the
> multimedia keys etc? I'm not afraid of having to deal with Xmodmap.

It works perfectly. After fiddling with Xmodmap for years together with
KDE I finally switched and use xbindkeys happily ever after (KDE 4 kept
breaking with its keybinding infrastructure with every new release).

HTH, ändu


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Music software

[Mark Neidorff]

Morning,

I'm running Mepis which is a squeeze spinoff.  I have started taking music 
lessons.  My instructor plays a tune and I record it.  I want to then play it 
back slowed down, without changing the pitch of the notes so that I can "play 
along."  Tried audacity (1.3.12), but it lowers the pitch of the notes when I 
slow the music down.

I'm looking at a package called mixxx.  There is a version for lenny, wheezy 
and sid, but not for squeeze. (yes, I tried debian-multimedia).  Does anyone 
have either a suggestion for how to get the sid package working or another 
package that will do the job for me?

Thanks,

Mark


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Re: Music software

[Lorenzo Sutton]

On 24/01/2012 11:25, Mark Neidorff wrote:

Morning,

I'm running Mepis which is a squeeze spinoff.  I have started taking music
lessons.  My instructor plays a tune and I record it.  I want to then play it
back slowed down, without changing the pitch of the notes so that I can "play
along."  Tried audacity (1.3.12), but it lowers the pitch of the notes when I
slow the music down.

I'm looking at a package called mixxx.  There is a version for lenny, wheezy
and sid, but not for squeeze. (yes, I tried debian-multimedia).  Does anyone
have either a suggestion for how to get the sid package working or another
package that will do the job for me?


You could have a look at rubberband-cli package (if you're not afraid of 
the command line) - it is in squeeze.


Lorenzo.



Thanks,

Mark





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Re: What´s wrong with fetchmail? (Re: POP3 in Debian)

[Johann Spies]

On Tue, Jan 24, 2012 at 12:15:33PM +0200, Anthony Campbell wrote:


> It's fine if it works for you, but some years ago I had problems
> authenticting myself to a mail server with fetchmail. I switched to
> getmail4 and it worked instantly. I can't remember the details now but
> I've always used getmail4 since them.

I have used fetchmail for many years (might be about 15 now).  At more
than one stage I experimented with getmail which also worked but I
always came back to fetchmail.  I found getmail a bit more complicated
(or maybe it was just 'strange' for me) to configure properly.

Regards
Johann

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Re: Clipboard issues

[Sylvain]

2012/1/24  :
> Hi all,
>
>  I am seeing this issue on my debian wheezy/sid. The clipboard contents are
> disappearing when the window is closed. Can someone help me please if they
> have to faced this issue ?
>
>  Steps:
>    open any window application (even xterm )
>    Mark the contents of the window (which is copying )
>
>    a) Close this window and open another window and try to paste the copied
> text. The copied text has disappeared and last text is remembered and
> pasted!
>    b) before closing the window if you try to paste the paste works fine.
>
> thanks all

I think that's the normal behaviour of X (as strange as it seems). You
can install a clipboard manager (such as parcellite) to keep the
contents of the clipboard after your application has been closed.

Sylvain


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Re: Clipboard issues

[Sven Joachim]

On 2012-01-24 11:47 +0100, Sylvain wrote:

> 2012/1/24  :
>> Hi all,
>>
>>  I am seeing this issue on my debian wheezy/sid. The clipboard contents are
>> disappearing when the window is closed. Can someone help me please if they
>> have to faced this issue ?
>>
>>  Steps:
>>    open any window application (even xterm )
>>    Mark the contents of the window (which is copying )
>>
>>    a) Close this window and open another window and try to paste the copied
>> text. The copied text has disappeared and last text is remembered and
>> pasted!
>>    b) before closing the window if you try to paste the paste works fine.
>>
>> thanks all
>
> I think that's the normal behaviour of X (as strange as it seems).

For some technical background on this, see Jamie Zawinski's essay on
http://www.jwz.org/doc/x-cut-and-paste.html.  Very informative.

Sven


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Re: Clipboard issues

[Brad Rogers]

On Tue, 24 Jan 2012 08:14:48 + (GMT)
bhas...@unixindia.com wrote:

Hello bhas...@unixindia.com,

>  open any window application (even xterm )
>  Mark the contents of the window (which is copying )

Another step required here.

> a) Close this window and open another window and try to paste the 
> copied text. The copied text has disappeared and last text is
> remembered and pasted!

Following your steps, it's no wonder stuff disappears:  You only mark
the text.  You haven't copied it to the clipboard.

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Re: Music software

[Jens Van Broeckhoven]

Op Tue, 24 Jan 2012 05:25:17 -0500
Mark Neidorff  schreef:

> Morning,
> 
> I'm running Mepis which is a squeeze spinoff.  I have started taking
> music lessons.  My instructor plays a tune and I record it.  I want
> to then play it back slowed down, without changing the pitch of the
> notes so that I can "play along."  Tried audacity (1.3.12), but it
> lowers the pitch of the notes when I slow the music down.
> 
> I'm looking at a package called mixxx.  There is a version for lenny,
> wheezy and sid, but not for squeeze. (yes, I tried
> debian-multimedia).  Does anyone have either a suggestion for how to
> get the sid package working or another package that will do the job
> for me?
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Mark

I'm using the upstream source package.
Wiki: http://www.mixxx.org/wiki/doku.php/compiling_on_linux




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boot failure

[Pierre Frenkiel]

hi,
I had yesterday a very big boot problem:
 after choosing any linux entry in the grub boot menu,
 I got failure messages, and was dropped to a busybox shell

 I sent a post 1 hour ago with an attachment showing these messages
 but it didn't reach the list (I thought that small attached files
 were allowed, but it seems I was wrong)
 So, I extracted the more important part.
 ===
   [3.903186] scsi_mod: '20a' invalid for parameter 'inq_timeout'
   done
   Gave up waiting for root device.  Common problems:
- Boot args ...
  - check rootdelay=
  - check root=
- Missing modules...
   ALERT /dev/disk/by-uuid/8f0abe00... does not exist.
   Dropping to a shell

   BusyBox ..
   
   /bin/sh: ca't access tty: job control turned off
 ===

 here are some details:

   1/ when in busybox, I saw that /dev/disk was missing.
  I suppose that's why the root disk is not found at boot,
  but I have no idea how this happened.

   2/ all internal disks are seen in the BIOS setup

   3/ selecting Windows (/dev/sda1) or memtest in the grub menu works

   4/ I can boot my linux partition using the Gentoo SystemRescueCd
  (command: rescuecd root=/dev/sda2)
  and it's how I'm working now.
  The situation is almost the same as if I had booted directly from my
  internal disc. (except the sound)
  As the actual working kernel is the one of the cd:
 uname -a ==> 2.6.32.10-std150-i386,
  I had just to copy the modules of this kernel to /lib/modules

  In particular, /dev/disk has all usual entries(by-uuid ...),
  and blkid shows all my disks, including /dev/sda2

   Do anybody see a possible explanation?

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Re: boot failure

[Michael Lange]

Hi,

Thus spoketh Pierre Frenkiel  
unto us on Tue, 24 Jan 2012 13:03:19 +0100 (CET):

(...)
>   ===
> [3.903186] scsi_mod: '20a' invalid for parameter 'inq_timeout'
> done
> Gave up waiting for root device.  Common problems:

according to modinfo scsi_mod:

parm:   inq_timeout:Timeout (in seconds) waiting for devices
to answer INQUIRY. Default is 20. Some devices may
need more; most need less. (uint)

so apparently it's the "20a" that is passed as 'inq_timeout' to scsi_mod
that makes insmod scsi_mod fail and so the disk is not recognized.

I don't know where it is coming from though, not sure if it is possible
to pass such module parameters through grub, but you can easily verify
this, if you hit "e" on one of the not working menu entries.

If it is not grub, it must be something in the initrd; I would try to
unpack the initrd with 

$ zcat initrd.img | cpio -i

and then grep its contents for lines containing "scsi_mod" or "20a", maybe
this reveals the source of your problems.
If you find something, you can edit these file(s) and then re-pack the
initrd with the command

   $ find | cpio --create --format=newc | gzip > initrd.img

run from the root of the unpacked initrd's directory tree and see if the
resulting initrd works.

Regards

Michael

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Re: What´s wrong with fetchmail? (Re: POP3 in Debian)

[Anthony Campbell]

On 24 Jan 2012, Johann Spies wrote:
> On Tue, Jan 24, 2012 at 12:15:33PM +0200, Anthony Campbell wrote:
> 
> 
> > It's fine if it works for you, but some years ago I had problems
> > authenticting myself to a mail server with fetchmail. I switched to
> > getmail4 and it worked instantly. I can't remember the details now but
> > I've always used getmail4 since them.
> 
> I have used fetchmail for many years (might be about 15 now).  At more
> than one stage I experimented with getmail which also worked but I
> always came back to fetchmail.  I found getmail a bit more complicated
> (or maybe it was just 'strange' for me) to configure properly.
> 
> Regards
> Johann
> 

Interesting. I found getmail easy to configure, using the examples in
the docs as a template. Anyway, this just illustrates one of the nice
things about Linux - lots of different ways to get the result you want.


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Re: default resolution on distro boot

[Darac Marjal]

On Mon, Jan 23, 2012 at 03:47:10PM -0700, mik...@softhome.net wrote:
> Given that several Linux distros identify (on boot) my display brand
> and type, get the size only slightly wrong, but default to a
> resolution that isn't native and doesn't work correctly, how do I
> identify just what package, module, or kernel part this "bug" hides
> in?
> I'm using a Sharp 32" LCD tv via hdmi cable, and it's identified as a 37".
> That's not as important as the default resolution, which comes up as
> 1280x720, but should be 1360x768 (or 1024x768 if wxga isn't doable).

There is a functionality called "EDID" (Extended Display Identification
Data) which most display devices implement. Basically, one can ask the
display for what capabilities it has and then set the display to the
most suitable values.

To see what your display reports, try installing the "read-edid"
package, then run

$ $RUNASROOT get-edid | parse-edid | $PAGER

(where $RUNASROOT is whatever command you prefer to run 'get-edid' as
root. 'sudo', 'fakeroot', 'su -c' etc)

You should get a page of information telling you the manufacturer, model
etc of the display plus a list of modes it claims to support. It MAY BE
that native is not in that list (unlikely, but it has happened), in
which case you'll need to tell X to ignore it's autodetected resolution
and give it a modeline, just like in the old days :)

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Re: Music software

[Johann Spies]

On Tue, Jan 24, 2012 at 12:25:17PM +0200, Mark Neidorff wrote:

> I'm running Mepis which is a squeeze spinoff.  I have started taking music 
> lessons.  My instructor plays a tune and I record it.  I want to then play it 
> back slowed down, without changing the pitch of the notes so that I can "play 
> along."  Tried audacity (1.3.12), but it lowers the pitch of the notes when I 
> slow the music down.

I have done this with audacity without lowering the pitch.  It can be
done.

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Re: boot failure

[Brian]

On Tue 24 Jan 2012 at 13:03:19 +0100, Pierre Frenkiel wrote:

> I had yesterday a very big boot problem:
>  after choosing any linux entry in the grub boot menu,
>  I got failure messages, and was dropped to a busybox shell

Did these entries boot prior to yesterday?

>  I sent a post 1 hour ago with an attachment showing these messages
>  but it didn't reach the list (I thought that small attached files
>  were allowed, but it seems I was wrong)

My understanding is that mails with attachments are not blocked. You
could try again in your next mail by attaching your grub.cfg.

>  So, I extracted the more important part.
>  ===
>[3.903186] scsi_mod: '20a' invalid for parameter 'inq_timeout'
>done
>Gave up waiting for root device.  Common problems:
> - Boot args ...
>   - check rootdelay=
>   - check root=
> - Missing modules...
>ALERT /dev/disk/by-uuid/8f0abe00... does not exist.
>Dropping to a shell

At the GRUB menu get a shell with 'c'. Type 'ls -l'. Does GRUB see the
disk with UUID 8f0abe00... ?


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Re: server crashes on debian.

[Joey L]

Thanks for the response.
I am just doing dumps to the local drive and running tar and creating
tar files - all locally on the system's drives.
I have raid software mirroring going on.
i will check the syslog and kernel.log

On Tue, Jan 24, 2012 at 3:37 AM, Joe  wrote:
> On Mon, 23 Jan 2012 15:19:50 -0500
> Joey L  wrote:
>
>> thanks for the input -
>> I am suspecting hardware myself..but can see anything in the logs or
>> elsewhere. It seems that when i run a backup script in screen - it
>> seems to be putting the server in a freezing state (can not get the
>> numlock light to come on when pressed).
>> The script only does a mysqldump and tar  - that is all.
>>
>> any other thoughts would be appriciated.
>>
> If there's any log of a terminal event anywhere, it will be in either
> syslog or the kernel log. But if it's a problem which can be logged, it
> can also be survived, and having written something useful to syslog,
> the kernel is not then going to crash hard. I don't think you'll find
> anything logged directly, the best you can hope for is some kind of
> warning about disc or RAM errors or similar, during the backup before
> the crash. That's not very likely, as such errors would probably corrupt
> the backup and almost certainly the backup will terminate early,
> without the machine crashing.
>
> None of that software (in Stable at least) is new and potentially
> flaky, and it must be heavily tested by many people every day. I'd
> still go with hardware, perhaps being unusually stressed by the backup.
>
> Is it possible to change the backup destination type i.e. if it's going
> to a local disc at the moment, send it to a USB drive or network share,
> or vice versa? Can you monitor and log the CPU temperature and fan speed
> during the backup?
>
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Re: boot failure

[Pierre Frenkiel]

On Tue, 24 Jan 2012, Michael Lange wrote:


If it is not grub, it must be something in the initrd; I would try to
unpack the initrd with


  hi Michael,
  Thank you for your quick answer.
  You were right: in the unpacked /etc/modprobe.d directory, the options file
  contained:
 options scsi_mod inq_timeout=20a
  After replacing 20a with 20, I rebuilt the initrd.img as you said,
  and that solved the problem.

  What is strange is that I have 2 kernels
 vmlinuz-2.6.32-5-686-bigmem
 and
 vmlinuz-2.6.32-5-amd64
  which were upgraded the same day (2012-01-16) and they both have the
  same problem.

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Re: boot failure

[Pierre Frenkiel]

On Tue, 24 Jan 2012, Brian wrote:


Did these entries boot prior to yesterday?

  hi Brian,
  it was the first reboot after a kernel upgrade
  it's fixed now (cf my previous post)


My understanding is that mails with attachments are not blocked. You
could try again in your next mail by attaching your grub.cfg.


  perhaps there is a size limit, My jpg file was about 200 kB
  I try now with a small text file

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> Did these entries boot prior to yesterday?
  hi Brian,
  it was the first reboot after a kernel upgrade
  it's fixed now (cf my previous post)

> My understanding is that mails with attachments are not blocked. You
> could try again in your next mail by attaching your grub.cfg.

  perhaps there is a size limit, and my jpg file was bout 200 kB
  I try now with a smal test file

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Re: boot failure

[Brian]

On Tue 24 Jan 2012 at 13:30:08 +0100, Michael Lange wrote:

> so apparently it's the "20a" that is passed as 'inq_timeout' to scsi_mod
> that makes insmod scsi_mod fail and so the disk is not recognized.

'scsi_mod.inq_timeout=20a' passed to the kernel causes the same behaviour
here too. The parameter should be an integer, of course.
 
> I don't know where it is coming from though, not sure if it is possible
> to pass such module parameters through grub, but you can easily verify
> this, if you hit "e" on one of the not working menu entries.

GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX in /etc/default/grub would be the place to put a
kernel parameter.


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Re: default resolution on distro boot

[Martin Steigerwald]

Am Montag, 23. Januar 2012 schrieb mik...@softhome.net:
> Given that several Linux distros identify (on boot) my display brand
> and type, get the size only slightly wrong, but default to a
> resolution that isn't native and doesn't work correctly, how do I
> identify just what package, module, or kernel part this "bug" hides
> in?
> I'm using a Sharp 32" LCD tv via hdmi cable, and it's identified as a
> 37". That's not as important as the default resolution, which comes up
> as 1280x720, but should be 1360x768 (or 1024x768 if wxga isn't
> doable).

I suggest to you reading:

TVs are all awful
Matthew Garrett

http://mjg59.dreamwidth.org/8705.html

as well as the linked postings

Why EDID is not trustworthy for DPI

Adam Jackson
http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/devel/2011-October/157671.html

Matthew Garrett
http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/devel/2011-October/157760.html


And then just stick to setting the resolution *manually*.

I know the latter are related to DPI and thus also how TVs report physical 
size. But at least in the Blog by Matthew Garrett are also hints, while 
resolutions would not be reported correctly.

The actual implementation as well as partly also specification for DDC 
appears to contain quite some crap it seems. Manufacturers of TVs do not 
seem to care much about reporting correct values in order of cheap, cheap, 
cheap.

That is at least what I gathered from above mentioned reading.

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Re: default resolution on distro boot

[Martin Steigerwald]

Am Dienstag, 24. Januar 2012 schrieb Darac Marjal:
> On Mon, Jan 23, 2012 at 03:47:10PM -0700, mik...@softhome.net wrote:
> > Given that several Linux distros identify (on boot) my display brand
> > and type, get the size only slightly wrong, but default to a
> > resolution that isn't native and doesn't work correctly, how do I
> > identify just what package, module, or kernel part this "bug" hides
> > in?
> > I'm using a Sharp 32" LCD tv via hdmi cable, and it's identified as a
> > 37". That's not as important as the default resolution, which comes
> > up as 1280x720, but should be 1360x768 (or 1024x768 if wxga isn't
> > doable).
[… EDID …]
> You should get a page of information telling you the manufacturer,
> model etc of the display plus a list of modes it claims to support. It
> MAY BE that native is not in that list (unlikely, but it has
> happened), in which case you'll need to tell X to ignore it's
> autodetected resolution and give it a modeline, just like in the old
> days :)

For getting modelines try cvt or gtf:

martin@merkaba:~> cvt 1920 1080 60
# 1920x1080 59.96 Hz (CVT 2.07M9) hsync: 67.16 kHz; pclk: 173.00 MHz
Modeline "1920x1080_60.00"  173.00  1920 2048 2248 2576  1080 1083 1088 
1120 -hsync +vsync
martin@merkaba:~> gtf 1280 1024 60

  # 1280x1024 @ 60.00 Hz (GTF) hsync: 63.60 kHz; pclk: 108.88 MHz
  Modeline "1280x1024_60.00"  108.88  1280 1360 1496 1712  1024 1025 1028 
1060  -HSync +Vsync

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Gnome3 login failure

[Richard]

Hi

Out of the blue, when I try to login to the shell I get after a few second that 
dreaded something has
gone wrong message and to logout.
Is Gnome3 similar in behaviour to Gnome2 that removing the .gnome files will 
cause them to be recreated
on login ?
Or any other ideas ???
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Re: boot failure

[Brian]

On Tue 24 Jan 2012 at 15:02:48 +0100, Pierre Frenkiel wrote:

>   hi Michael,
>   Thank you for your quick answer.
>   You were right: in the unpacked /etc/modprobe.d directory, the options file
>   contained:
>  options scsi_mod inq_timeout=20a
>   After replacing 20a with 20, I rebuilt the initrd.img as you said,
>   and that solved the problem.

You may already have thought of it but checking the same file on your
system is worthwhile, otherwise the problem may occur again with the
next kernel upgrade.


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Sound in squeeze: devices stopped being found

[Len Berman]

Hi,
I just rebooted after the latest update and my sound is gone.  Any
help would be appreciated.  I've posted some things that may be useful
below; however, I'm not very knowledgeable so I may not have included
the information needed.  Please let me know.

Thanks,.
--Len

The KDE Control module shows the following devices grayed out:

OUTPUT: HDA ATI SB (ALC892 Analog)
 HDA ATI HDMI, HDMI 0 (HDMI Audio Output)
CAPTURE: HDA ATI SB (ALC892 Analog)

I am unable to run alsamixer (which I have used before).

   root@foobar:/home/berman# alsamixer
   cannot open mixer: No such file or directory

kmix (which has always opened when I start X) shows no devices.  There
is a message box labelled 'Removed Sound Devices' which lists 3
internal devices which it claims were removed (NOT true).

 lspci -v  shows:

00:14.2 Audio device: ATI Technologies Inc SBx00 Azalia (Intel HDA) (rev 40)
        Subsystem: Elitegroup Computer Systems Device 29a5
        Flags: bus master, slow devsel, latency 64, IRQ 10
        Memory at fe6f8000 (64-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=16K]
        Capabilities: [50] Power Management version 2

01:05.1 Audio device: ATI Technologies Inc RS880 Audio Device [Radeon HD 4200]
        Subsystem: Elitegroup Computer Systems Device 2258
        Flags: bus master, fast devsel, latency 0, IRQ 11
        Memory at fe8e8000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=16K]
        Capabilities: [50] Power Management version 3
        Capabilities: [a0] MSI: Enable- Count=1/1 Maskable- 64bit+


 However, on loading X  there are many, many errors from ALSA:

ALSA lib confmisc.c:768:(parse_card) ALSA lib
confmisc.c:768:(parse_card) cannot find card '0'cannot find card '0'

ALSA lib conf.c:4170:(_snd_config_evaluate) ALSA lib
conf.c:4170:(_snd_config_evaluate) function snd_func_card_driver
returned error: No such file or directoryfunction snd_func_card_driver
returned error: No such file or directory

ALSA lib confmisc.c:392:(snd_func_concat) ALSA lib
confmisc.c:392:(snd_func_concat) error evaluating stringserror
evaluating strings

ALSA lib conf.c:4170:(_snd_config_evaluate) ALSA lib
conf.c:4170:(_snd_config_evaluate) function snd_func_concat returned
error: No such file or directoryfunction snd_func_concat returned
error: No such file or directory

ALSA lib confmisc.c:1251:(snd_func_refer) ALSA lib
confmisc.c:1251:(snd_func_refer) error evaluating nameerror evaluating
name

ALSA lib conf.c:4170:(_snd_config_evaluate) ALSA lib
conf.c:4170:(_snd_config_evaluate) function snd_func_refer returned
error: No such file or directoryfunction snd_func_refer returned
error: No such file or directory

ALSA lib conf.c:4649:(snd_config_expand) ALSA lib
conf.c:4649:(snd_config_expand) Evaluate error: No such file or
directoryEvaluate error: No such file or directory

ALSA lib pcm.c:2190:(snd_pcm_open_noupdate) ALSA lib
pcm.c:2190:(snd_pcm_open_noupdate) Unknown PCM defaultUnknown PCM
default

ALSA lib confmisc.c:768:(parse_card) cannot find card '0'
ALSA lib conf.c:4170:(_snd_config_evaluate) function
snd_func_card_driver returned error: No such file or directory
ALSA lib confmisc.c:392:(snd_func_concat) error evaluating strings
ALSA lib conf.c:4170:(_snd_config_evaluate) function snd_func_concat
returned error: No such file or directory
ALSA lib confmisc.c:1251:(snd_func_refer) error evaluating name
ALSA lib conf.c:4170:(_snd_config_evaluate) function snd_func_refer
returned error: No such file or directory
ALSA lib conf.c:4649:(snd_config_expand) Evaluate error: No such file
or directory
ALSA lib pcm.c:2190:(snd_pcm_open_noupdate) Unknown PCM default
ALSA lib confmisc.c:768:(parse_card) cannot find card '0'
ALSA lib conf.c:4170:(_snd_config_evaluate) function
snd_func_card_driver returned error: No such file or directory
ALSA lib confmisc.c:392:(snd_func_concat) error evaluating strings
ALSA lib conf.c:4170:(_snd_config_evaluate) function snd_func_concat
returned error: No such file or directory
ALSA lib confmisc.c:1251:(snd_func_refer) error evaluating name
ALSA lib conf.c:4170:(_snd_config_evaluate) function snd_func_refer
returned error: No such file or directory
ALSA lib conf.c:4649:(snd_config_expand) Evaluate error: No such file
or directory
ALSA lib pcm.c:2190:(snd_pcm_open_noupdate) Unknown PCM default
ALSA lib confmisc.c:768:(parse_card) cannot find card '0'
ALSA lib conf.c:4170:(_snd_config_evaluate) function
snd_func_card_driver returned error: No such file or directory
ALSA lib confmisc.c:392:(snd_func_concat) error evaluating strings
ALSA lib conf.c:4170:(_snd_config_evaluate) function snd_func_concat
returned error: No such file or directory
ALSA lib confmisc.c:1251:(snd_func_refer) error evaluating name
ALSA lib conf.c:4170:(_snd_config_evaluate) function snd_func_refer
returned error: No such file or directory
ALSA lib conf.c:4649:(snd_config_expand) Evaluate error: No such file
or directory
ALSA lib pcm.c:2190:(snd_pcm_open_noupdate) Unknown PCM default
ALSA lib confmisc.c:

Re: Gnome3 login failure

[Jon Dowland]

On 24/01/12 14:56, Richard wrote:

Out of the blue, when I try to login to the shell I get after a few second that 
dreaded something has
gone wrong message and to logout.
Is Gnome3 similar in behaviour to Gnome2 that removing the .gnome files will 
cause them to be recreated
on login ?
Or any other ideas ???


Can you use the "GNOME classic" session?

Can a freshly-created test user use the normal "GNOME" session?


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how to download net inst wheezy and install

[Fernando Gadea]

I am trying to get the net inst file to install debian wheezy but cant
find it. Are various files? where is the one I need for amd64?
thank you

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Re: boot failure

[Pierre Frenkiel]

On Tue, 24 Jan 2012, Brian wrote:


'scsi_mod.inq_timeout=20a' passed to the kernel causes the same behaviour
here too. The parameter should be an integer, of course.


  That is obvious, but what is not obvious is where this 20a comes
  from! that looks like a bug in the kernel upgrade procedure


GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX in /etc/default/grub would be the place to put a
kernel parameter.

  the quesion is: what to put after GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX= ?

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Re: issue with mdadm and mirroring drives

[Joey L]

In related questions - i hope you can answer - are :

1. why do i get an error when trying to make swap partition - i get
this error below after running fdisk, creating a primary partition
/dev/sdd2 and then changing the type - with t -
As in below ---

2. the /dev/sdd drive is the mirrored drive in the set - do i have to
set /dev/sdd1 active in fdisk ???


root@rider:~# mkswap /dev/sdd2

mkswap: error: swap area needs to be at least 40 KiB
Usage: mkswap [-c] [-pPAGESZ] [-L label] [-U UUID] /dev/name [blocks]
root@rider:~# fdisk -l /dev/sdd


Disk /dev/sdd: 1000.2 GB, 1000204886016 bytes
255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 121601 cylinders
Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes
Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
I/O size (minimum/optimal): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
Disk identifier: 0x0005d0fd


   Device Boot      Start         End      Blocks   Id  System
/dev/sdd1               1      121091   972663426   fd  Linux raid autodetect
/dev/sdd2          121092      121601     4096575   82  Linux swap / Solaris


thanks
mjh



On Thu, Jan 19, 2012 at 12:44 PM, Marc Auslander  wrote:
> Jon Dowland  writes:
>
>>
>> Pretty sure at that stage it has loaded modules that let it interpret
>> a selection of filesystem types, in order to fetch grub.cfg (and
>> further
>
> How does it decide which partition (on which disk) and what pathname
> to use to find grub.cfg.  I assume one it chooses a partition it can
> look at partitions, figure out what kind they are, and figure out how
> to read them.
>
> Also - if the chosen partition is raid1 does it "assemble" the array
> or just use the chosen partition as if it where a degraded array.
>
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Re: boot failure

[Pierre Frenkiel]

On Tue, 24 Jan 2012, Brian wrote:


You may already have thought of it but checking the same file on your
system is worthwhile, otherwise the problem may occur again with the
next kernel upgrade.


  According all the tests I made /etc/modprobe/options is rewritten by
  initrd: just replacing 20a with 20 in this file didn't solve the problem.
  Actually, I found that the 20a re-appeared after reboot, and that it
  diappeared after correcting initrd.img

  But may-be /etc/modprobe/options is used at kernel upgrade to create
  the initrd image. That would explain why the same error occured with
  my 2 kernels.

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Re: System hangs due to NFS share

[Sylvain]

On 24. 01. 12 09:28, Scott Ferguson wrote:

On 24/01/12 18:50, Sylvain wrote:

I tried to SIGKILL the [nfsiod] process but it didn't get killed. I
also tried to kill the various rpcbind processes but it didn't change
anything.

I also tried autofs as Scott suggested, but the same problem occured
when I unplugged the network cable (most of the system hangs, can't
reboot nor halt). Here's how I configured autofs:

/etc/auto.misc:
bazinga -retry=1,rw,hard,size=8192,wsize=8192 192.168.2.77:/DataVolume/Public

/etc/auto.master:
/misc   /etc/auto.misc --timeout 20

Here's what I found in the syslog:


Jan 23 22:59:17 cid kernel: [  510.944160] nfs: server 192.168.2.77 not 
responding, still trying
Jan 23 23:01:22 cid kernel: [  635.616161] nfs: server 192.168.2.77 not 
responding, still trying
Jan 23 23:01:46 cid sm-notify[841]: DNS resolution of Bazinga.local failed; 
retrying later
Jan 23 23:03:51 cid sm-notify[841]: DNS resolution of Bazinga.local failed; 
retrying later
Jan 23 23:05:56 cid sm-notify[841]: DNS resolution of Bazinga.local failed; 
retrying later
Jan 23 23:07:56 cid sm-notify[841]: Unable to notify Bazinga.local, giving up


I'm not sure why it's trying to resolve the "bazinga.local" name, and
even when it gave up with the resolution, it didn't unfreeze anything.
Also nfs seems to be still trying to reach the server (the cable was
unplugged at 22:56).

Thanks for your help,
Sylvain



What do you have in /etc/hosts?


Just the usual stuff:


127.0.0.1   localhost
127.0.1.1   cid.localdomain cid

# The following lines are desirable for IPv6 capable hosts
::1 ip6-localhost ip6-loopback
fe00::0 ip6-localnet
ff00::0 ip6-mcastprefix
ff02::1 ip6-allnodes
ff02::2 ip6-allrouters


On 24. 01. 12 09:28, Tom H wrote:

It's avahi that's trying to resolve "Bazinga" through "Bazinga.local".

Is Bazinga the hostname of 192.168.2.77?

Did ifs quit after avahi failed?


No, nfs didn't quit after avahi failed (the nfsiod process is still 
here). Also I don't know the hostname of 192.168.2.77, because it's just 
a NAS box on which I don't have any control.


Sylvain


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Re: issue with mdadm and mirroring drives

[Joey L]

Sorry to load up on related issues in this mail, but have a big issue:
After having synced my mirrored drives in software raid -
I get the following error:
error: superfluous RAID member (2 found).

the boot drive is /dev/sdc1 but added another one to the mirror - /dev/sdd1
my questions :
1. should i put both drives in the bootup bios scan ?
2. should i set their partitions as bootable in fdisk ?
3. how do i fix this without having to zero out the drive and re-add
it to the mirror ?


On Tue, Jan 24, 2012 at 12:34 PM, Joey L  wrote:
> In related questions - i hope you can answer - are :
>
> 1. why do i get an error when trying to make swap partition - i get
> this error below after running fdisk, creating a primary partition
> /dev/sdd2 and then changing the type - with t -
> As in below ---
>
> 2. the /dev/sdd drive is the mirrored drive in the set - do i have to
> set /dev/sdd1 active in fdisk ???
>
>
> root@rider:~# mkswap /dev/sdd2
>
> mkswap: error: swap area needs to be at least 40 KiB
> Usage: mkswap [-c] [-pPAGESZ] [-L label] [-U UUID] /dev/name [blocks]
> root@rider:~# fdisk -l /dev/sdd
>
>
> Disk /dev/sdd: 1000.2 GB, 1000204886016 bytes
> 255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 121601 cylinders
> Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes
> Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
> I/O size (minimum/optimal): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
> Disk identifier: 0x0005d0fd
>
>
>    Device Boot      Start         End      Blocks   Id  System
> /dev/sdd1               1      121091   972663426   fd  Linux raid autodetect
> /dev/sdd2          121092      121601     4096575   82  Linux swap / Solaris
>
>
> thanks
> mjh
>
>
>
> On Thu, Jan 19, 2012 at 12:44 PM, Marc Auslander  wrote:
>> Jon Dowland  writes:
>>
>>>
>>> Pretty sure at that stage it has loaded modules that let it interpret
>>> a selection of filesystem types, in order to fetch grub.cfg (and
>>> further
>>
>> How does it decide which partition (on which disk) and what pathname
>> to use to find grub.cfg.  I assume one it chooses a partition it can
>> look at partitions, figure out what kind they are, and figure out how
>> to read them.
>>
>> Also - if the chosen partition is raid1 does it "assemble" the array
>> or just use the chosen partition as if it where a degraded array.
>>
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Re: how to download net inst wheezy and install

[keitho]

> I am trying to get the net inst file to install debian wheezy but cant
> find it. Are various files? where is the one I need for amd64?
> thank you
>
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>

Goto: http://www.debian.org/distrib/netinst

and select the small cd for amd64

alternately, goto: http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/weekly-builds/

to get the latest, or previous, weekly build.

The latest for amd64 is here:

http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/weekly-builds/amd64/iso-cd/

You'll likely only need the first cd image.

Keith Ostertag


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Re: What�s wrong with fetchmail? (Re: POP3 in Debian)

[Robert Holtzman]

On Tue, Jan 24, 2012 at 10:15:33AM +, Anthony Campbell wrote:
> On 24 Jan 2012, lee wrote:
> > Jon Dowland  writes:
> > 
> > > I'd strongly recommend using something *other* than fetchmail: getmail
> > > or mpop are options.
> > 
> > What´s wrong with fetchmail?
> > 
> > 
> 
> It's fine if it works for you, but some years ago I had problems
> authenticting myself to a mail server with fetchmail. I switched to
> getmail4 and it worked instantly. I can't remember the details now but
> I've always used getmail4 since them.

I'm not sure something that happened to you years ago would justify a
recomendation not to use it.

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Re: boot failure

[Brian]

On Tue 24 Jan 2012 at 18:24:29 +0100, Pierre Frenkiel wrote:

>   the quesion is: what to put after GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX= ?

GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX="scsi_mod.inq_timeout=20"

Then 'update-grub'.


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Re: System hangs due to NFS share

[frank]

On Tue, 2012-01-24 at 18:50 +0100, Sylvain wrote:

> No, nfs didn't quit after avahi failed (the nfsiod process is still 
> here). Also I don't know the hostname of 192.168.2.77, because it's just 
> a NAS box on which I don't have any control.

Which kernel is installed? Have you tried downgrading?

Frank



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Just what does _DEBIAN_ mean by "live"

[Richard Owlett]

 I downloaded a 770MB file titled 
debian-live-6.0.3-i386-lxde-desktop.iso .

Burned a DVD.Got some surprises :<

Inspite of http://www.debian.org/CD/faq/#live-cd stating in 
part:


"
Is a Debian "live CD" available?

Yes. A so-called "live CD", or more precisely, a "live 
system", is a complete system prepared for a CD, DVD, USB 
key or other medium. _*You*_ do not need to install anything 
on the hard drive. Instead you boot from the CD or other 
medium and

   _*are able to start working on the machine right away*_.
All programs run directly from the medium.
"

Evidently "start working right away" means using an open 
office app.

[a suite that is irrelevant for me]
Not only is there no way to connect to internet, there is no 
app for configuring a possible connection to the internet.


The second unkind surprise arrived when I popped the DVD 
into tray of an operating Windows(tm) machine after inviting 
me to blindly install. It triggered my browser bringing up 
README.txt which said in part:

"
About This Disc
===

   This disc is labeled

 Debian GNU/Linux squeeze-di-rc2 "Squeeze" - Official 
Snapshot i386

   NETINST Binary-1 20110121-20:12

   It contains programs ("binaries") for `i386' computers.

   This disc is a _*netinst image*_.  
!  ?

"


That's what Debian can do with 750MB ?

There is massive communication failure as other links 
internal to debian.org lead to a netinst image of ~150MB.




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Re: boot failure

[Pierre Frenkiel]

On Tue, 24 Jan 2012, Brian wrote:


GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX="scsi_mod.inq_timeout=20"


 That works. I checked that the value in grub.cfg has precedence, as expected,
 over the value in initrd.
 It'a a precious help in cas of boot problems.

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Re: Just what does _DEBIAN_ mean by "live"

[Andrei POPESCU]

On Ma, 24 ian 12, 13:21:48, Richard Owlett wrote:
>  I downloaded a 770MB file titled
> debian-live-6.0.3-i386-lxde-desktop.iso .
> Burned a DVD.Got some surprises :<
...
> Evidently "start working right away" means using an open office app.
> [a suite that is irrelevant for me]
> Not only is there no way to connect to internet, there is no app for
> configuring a possible connection to the internet.

LXDE is a lightweight desktop environment and doesn't include a network 
management software. You probably want the Gnome version instead.

> The second unkind surprise arrived when I popped the DVD into tray
> of an operating Windows(tm) machine after inviting me to blindly
> install. It triggered my browser bringing up README.txt which said
> in part:

[...]

Could you please post the link where you downloaded the image? Even 
better if you can also provide a checksum (md5, sha...).

Kind regards,
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Re: Music software

[Scott Ferguson]

On 24/01/12 21:25, Mark Neidorff wrote:
> Morning,
> 
> I'm running Mepis which is a squeeze spinoff.  I have started taking music 
> lessons.  My instructor plays a tune and I record it.  I want to then play it 
> back slowed down, without changing the pitch of the notes so that I can "play 
> along."  Tried audacity (1.3.12), but it lowers the pitch of the notes when I 
> slow the music down.


Were you using the Change Speed Effect or Reduce Play-at-speed[*1]
(slider with Green Play button)?

Audacity crashes (Squeeze) if you reduce the speed[*1] more than approx
0.29X - but you're not going to want to play slower than 0.7x.


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Re: boot failure

[Scott Ferguson]

On 24/01/12 23:30, Michael Lange wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> Thus spoketh Pierre Frenkiel  
> unto us on Tue, 24 Jan 2012 13:03:19 +0100 (CET):
> 
> (...)
>>   ===
>> [3.903186] scsi_mod: '20a' invalid for parameter 'inq_timeout'
>> done
>> Gave up waiting for root device.  Common problems:
> 
> according to modinfo scsi_mod:
> 
> parm:   inq_timeout:Timeout (in seconds) waiting for devices
> to answer INQUIRY. Default is 20. Some devices may
> need more; most need less. (uint)
> 
> so apparently it's the "20a" that is passed as 'inq_timeout' to scsi_mod
> that makes insmod scsi_mod fail and so the disk is not recognized.
> 
> I don't know where it is coming from though, not sure if it is possible
> to pass such module parameters through grub, but you can easily verify
> this, if you hit "e" on one of the not working menu entries.
> 
> If it is not grub, it must be something in the initrd; I would try to
> unpack the initrd with 
> 
> $ zcat initrd.img | cpio -i
> 
> and then grep its contents for lines containing "scsi_mod" or "20a", maybe
> this reveals the source of your problems.
> If you find something, you can edit these file(s) and then re-pack the
> initrd with the command
> 
>$ find | cpio --create --format=newc | gzip > initrd.img
> 
> run from the root of the unpacked initrd's directory tree and see if the
> resulting initrd works.
> 
> Regards
> 
> Michael
> 
> .-.. .. ...- .   .-.. --- -. --.   .- -. -..   .--. .-. --- ... .--. . .-.
> 
> If I can have honesty, it's easier to overlook mistakes.
>   -- Kirk, "Space Seed", stardate 3141.9
> 
> 

If it's the scsi module - try editing the GRUB menu entry at the boot
prompt and adding "insmod scsi" before "insmod part_msdos", then hit Ctrl+x


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Re: icedove 8.0-2 not opening http links in browser

[MRH]

On 23/01/12 09:14, Alberto Fuentes wrote:

On 01/20/2012 08:46 PM, MRH wrote:

On 20/01/12 10:19, Alberto Fuentes wrote:

On 01/20/2012 10:10 AM, Jörg-Volker Peetz wrote:

Did you check "Preferences -> Attachments" for "ftp", "http", and
"https"?


i am having the same issue, and the attachment tab is empty

greets!
aL


The same. The worst thing I don't remember how was it before.

Kind regards,
Michal



ive got icedove 8.0-2 and its empty. I tried in a testing with 3.1.16-1
and its empty as well :S

greets!
aL
And I just checked that in Thunderbird 9 at work - the same (attachment 
tab is empty), but the links work there.


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Re: Microsoft Natural Ergonomic 4000 keyboard

[MRH]

On 24/01/12 10:25, Andreas Weber wrote:

On 2012-01-24 02:08, Ashton Fagg wrote:

Can anyone tell me how the Microsoft Natural Ergonomics 4000 keyboard
works with Debian (and if possible, also with XFCE) in regards to the
multimedia keys etc? I'm not afraid of having to deal with Xmodmap.


It works perfectly. After fiddling with Xmodmap for years together with
KDE I finally switched and use xbindkeys happily ever after (KDE 4 kept
breaking with its keybinding infrastructure with every new release).

HTH, ändu


Almost perfectly. The 'zoom' slider button doesn't work (and cannot be 
fixed with mapping keys, as xev also won't return anything)


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Re: Just what does _DEBIAN_ mean by "live"

[steef]

Richard Owlett schreef:

I downloaded a 770MB file titled debian-live-6.0.3-i386-lxde-desktop.iso .
Burned a DVD. Got some surprises :<

Inspite of http://www.debian.org/CD/faq/#live-cd stating in part:

"
Is a Debian "live CD" available?

Yes. A so-called "live CD", or more precisely, a "live system", is a complete
system prepared for a CD, DVD, USB key or other medium. _*You*_ do not need to
install anything on the hard drive. Instead you boot from the CD or other
medium and
_*are able to start working on the machine right away*_.
All programs run directly from the medium.
"

Evidently "start working right away" means using an open office app.
[a suite that is irrelevant for me]
Not only is there no way to connect to internet, there is no app for
configuring a possible connection to the internet.

The second unkind surprise arrived when I popped the DVD into tray of an
operating Windows(tm) machine after inviting me to blindly install. It
triggered my browser bringing up README.txt which said in part:
"
About This Disc
===

This disc is labeled

Debian GNU/Linux squeeze-di-rc2 "Squeeze" - Official Snapshot i386
NETINST Binary-1 20110121-20:12

It contains programs ("binaries") for `i386' computers.

This disc is a _*netinst image*_.  ! ?
"


That's what Debian can do with 750MB ?

There is massive communication failure as other links internal to debian.org
lead to a netinst image of ~150MB.




is this a troll/ are you trolling?

steef






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Re: System hangs due to NFS share

[Scott Ferguson]

On 25/01/12 04:50, Sylvain wrote:
> On 24. 01. 12 09:28, Scott Ferguson wrote:
>> On 24/01/12 18:50, Sylvain wrote:
>>> I tried to SIGKILL the [nfsiod] process but it didn't get killed. I
>>> also tried to kill the various rpcbind processes but it didn't change
>>> anything.
>>>
>>> I also tried autofs as Scott suggested, but the same problem occured
>>> when I unplugged the network cable (most of the system hangs, can't
>>> reboot nor halt). Here's how I configured autofs:
>>>
>>> /etc/auto.misc:
>>> bazinga -retry=1,rw,hard,size=8192,wsize=8192
>>> 192.168.2.77:/DataVolume/Public

bazinga -fstype=nfs,bg,-retries=1,timeo=1,rw,soft,size=8192,wsize=8192
192.168.2.77:/DataVolume/Public

>>>
>>> /etc/auto.master:
>>> /misc   /etc/auto.misc --timeout 20

/misc   /etc/auto.misc
>>>
>>> Here's what I found in the syslog:
>>>
 Jan 23 22:59:17 cid kernel: [  510.944160] nfs: server 192.168.2.77
 not responding, still trying
 Jan 23 23:01:22 cid kernel: [  635.616161] nfs: server 192.168.2.77
 not responding, still trying
 Jan 23 23:01:46 cid sm-notify[841]: DNS resolution of Bazinga.local
 failed; retrying later
 Jan 23 23:03:51 cid sm-notify[841]: DNS resolution of Bazinga.local
 failed; retrying later
 Jan 23 23:05:56 cid sm-notify[841]: DNS resolution of Bazinga.local
 failed; retrying later
 Jan 23 23:07:56 cid sm-notify[841]: Unable to notify Bazinga.local,
 giving up
>>>
>>> I'm not sure why it's trying to resolve the "bazinga.local" name, and
>>> even when it gave up with the resolution, it didn't unfreeze anything.
>>> Also nfs seems to be still trying to reach the server (the cable was
>>> unplugged at 22:56).
>>>
>>> Thanks for your help,
>>> Sylvain
>>>
>>>
>> What do you have in /etc/hosts?
> 
> Just the usual stuff:
> 
>> 127.0.0.1   localhost
>> 127.0.1.1   cid.localdomain cid
>>
>> # The following lines are desirable for IPv6 capable hosts
>> ::1 ip6-localhost ip6-loopback
>> fe00::0 ip6-localnet
>> ff00::0 ip6-mcastprefix
>> ff02::1 ip6-allnodes
>> ff02::2 ip6-allrouters
> 
> On 24. 01. 12 09:28, Tom H wrote:
>> It's avahi that's trying to resolve "Bazinga" through "Bazinga.local".
>>
>> Is Bazinga the hostname of 192.168.2.77?
>>
>> Did ifs quit after avahi failed?
> 
> No, nfs didn't quit after avahi failed (the nfsiod process is still
> here). Also I don't know the hostname of 192.168.2.77, because it's just
> a NAS box on which I don't have any control.
> 
> Sylvain
> 
> 
I suspect avahi is the problem (as suggested by Brian).
Do you really need avahi?
Where does the NAS box get it's IP address from?

Try adding bazinga to /etc/hosts


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Re: issue with mdadm and mirroring drives

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24/01/2012 18:34, Joey L wrote:
> In related questions - i hope you can answer - are :
> 
> 1. why do i get an error when trying to make swap partition - i get
> this error below after running fdisk, creating a primary partition
> /dev/sdd2 and then changing the type - with t -
> As in below ---
> 
> 2. the /dev/sdd drive is the mirrored drive in the set - do i have to
> set /dev/sdd1 active in fdisk ???
> 
> 
> root@rider:~# mkswap /dev/sdd2
> 
> mkswap: error: swap area needs to be at least 40 KiB
> Usage: mkswap [-c] [-pPAGESZ] [-L label] [-U UUID] /dev/name [blocks]
> root@rider:~# fdisk -l /dev/sdd
> 
> 
> Disk /dev/sdd: 1000.2 GB, 1000204886016 bytes
> 255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 121601 cylinders
> Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes
> Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
> I/O size (minimum/optimal): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
> Disk identifier: 0x0005d0fd
> 
> 
>Device Boot  Start End  Blocks   Id  System
> /dev/sdd1   1  121091   972663426   fd  Linux raid autodetect
> /dev/sdd2  121092  121601 4096575   82  Linux swap / Solaris
> 
> 
> thanks
> mjh
> 

What are you trying to achieve exactly ? fdisk knows nothing about mdadm
raid, here you say that /dev/sdd is part of a mirroring raid (each
partitions are I guess), and later you are working with fdisk on
/dev/sdd2. If /dev/sdd2 is part of a raid1 array you must work on the
mdadm device (/dev/md*), this is the device you need to "mkswap". There
is nothing else to do to make it work as swap (apart registering it in
mdadm.conf and fstab).
If you use fdisk on a raid member you are going to wreck your system in
no time !

I am not sure I understand what you are doing and how your raid is set.
Could you post the output of:

cat /proc/mdstat

and

parted -l




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Re: Just what does _DEBIAN_ mean by "live"

[Scott Ferguson]

On 25/01/12 06:21, Richard Owlett wrote:
> I downloaded a 770MB file titled
> debian-live-6.0.3-i386-lxde-desktop.iso . Burned a DVD.Got some
> surprises :<
> 
> Inspite of http://www.debian.org/CD/faq/#live-cd stating in part:

Consider reading all the FAQ - instead of just part.

If you're going to nit pick you will get "surprises".

> 
> " Is a Debian "live CD" available?
> 
> Yes. A so-called "live CD", or more precisely, a "live system", is a 
> complete system prepared for a CD, DVD, USB key or other medium.
> _*You*_ do not need to install anything on the hard drive. Instead
> you boot from the CD or other medium and _*are able to start working
> on the machine right away*_. All programs run directly from the
> medium. "
> 

Every word of which is true.

> Evidently "start working right away" means using an open office app. 
> [a suite that is irrelevant for me]

It won't make toasted sandwiches either, or make you smarter.

> Not only is there no way to connect to internet, 

Please don't troll - we don't go to your favourite Windows XP phorums
making up complaints.

> there is no app for 
> configuring a possible connection to the internet.

Launcher: In addition to text and GUI install options in the boot menu,
the desktop flavors contain a launcher on the desktop that can be used
to install while running the live image.

Flavors: The live images come in "flavors", four providing the desktop
environments GNOME, KDE, LXDE and Xfce, and two text console flavors:
rescue and standard. Many users will find these initial package
selections suitable, installing any additional packages they need from
the network afterwards.

> 
> The second unkind surprise arrived when I popped the DVD into tray of
> an operating Windows(tm) machine after inviting me to blindly
> install. It triggered my browser bringing up README.txt which said in
> part: " About This Disc ===
> 
> This disc is labeled
> 
> Debian GNU/Linux squeeze-di-rc2 "Squeeze" - Official Snapshot i386 
> NETINST Binary-1 20110121-20:12
> 
> It contains programs ("binaries") for `i386' computers.
> 
> This disc is a _*netinst image*_.  ! 
> ?

Make up your mind - either you're complaining that despite your refusal
to fully *read* the documentation you were short changed on features -
or your complaining that *additional* features like the installer is
also a complaint.

> "
> 
> 
> That's what Debian can do with 750MB ?

Stuffed a disk full of documentation for those willing to read as well
as a live environment so people can test hardware support before
installing *and* install additional packages using the built-in
*network* support.

> 
> There is massive communication failure

Agreed.

> as other links internal to debian.org lead to a netinst image of
> ~150MB.


Yes. *Only* the netinst.iso.


Was there a valid question in your massive rant?



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Re: issue with mdadm and mirroring drives

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24/01/2012 19:10, Joey L wrote:
> Sorry to load up on related issues in this mail, but have a big issue:
> After having synced my mirrored drives in software raid -
> I get the following error:
> error: superfluous RAID member (2 found).

There is a good chance that the error reported is more cosmetic than
alarming. Could you give the metadata version used on the affected array
("cat /proc/mdstat" or "mdadm --examine /dev/sd??" replace "??" with
affected partitions addresses, otherwise it's going to print for every
partitions).


> the boot drive is /dev/sdc1 but added another one to the mirror - /dev/sdd1
> my questions :
> 1. should i put both drives in the bootup bios scan ?
Is that a bios setting on your mainboard ? If it is I think you can as
both drive should have a working grub first stage.

> 2. should i set their partitions as bootable in fdisk ?
Usually not necessary, but won't hurt.

> 3. how do i fix this without having to zero out the drive and re-add
> it to the mirror ?

If it works you don't have to "fix" it, I encountered this error before
and thought it had been fixed as a bug in grub. Grub is detecting
metadata both on the drive and the partitions, and considers that two
sets of metadata are one too many. But it shouldn't lead to a problem,
grub will fall-back to one set.

The only nasty cases I know occur if the drives where previously used in
a raid and metadata were not cleared prior to reusing it ; if the raid
partitions have been created over an existing file-system and metadata
are misplaced ; or if a partitioned raid1 (as opposed to partitions
assembled in raid1 arrays) is wrongly detected as an unpartitioned one.
Knowing more about the way you created the raid and your setup would
help to know if you fall in one of this categories.


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ALSA instead of pulseaudio on new sid

[Raven]

Hi guys.
I have a fairly new install of sid with the new fancy gnome3 and all the
eye-candy tweaks. I don't really like it, but that's another story..

Anyway, before reinstalling sid I used to have the sound coming from
ALSA..it was working great. Mic worked, SPDIF worked and I had real
control over the volume level.
Now I'm running pulseaudio. Which sucks! Digital out is mute, sound
level seems to be reduced by 60-70% and I haven't even started trying to
configure it for HDMI.
I would really want to go back to ALSA, but I'm kind of afraid that it
might break my install. I tried following some ubuntu howtos but I
always end up with aptitude wanting to remove gnome-desktop-environment.
Does any one have experience on how to go about for replacing
pulseaudio? Or maybe some tips?

-RV


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Re: Music software

[Ralf Madorf]

On Wed, 2012-01-25 at 07:54 +1100, Scott Ferguson wrote:
> On 24/01/12 21:25, Mark Neidorff wrote:
> > Morning,
> > 
> > I'm running Mepis which is a squeeze spinoff.  I have started taking music 
> > lessons.  My instructor plays a tune and I record it.  I want to then play 
> > it 
> > back slowed down, without changing the pitch of the notes so that I can 
> > "play 
> > along."  Tried audacity (1.3.12), but it lowers the pitch of the notes when 
> > I 
> > slow the music down.
> 
> 
> Were you using the Change Speed Effect or Reduce Play-at-speed[*1]
> (slider with Green Play button)?
> 
> Audacity crashes (Squeeze) if you reduce the speed[*1] more than approx
> 0.29X - but you're not going to want to play slower than 0.7x.
> 
> 
> Cheers

You need a time-stretching tool http://breakfastquay.com/rubberband/ :
"Rubber Band Library is in use in [snip] open-source applications
including Ardour digital audio workstation, the SooperLooper live
looping sampler, the StretchPlayer audio player and the QTractor
sequencer. You can also find it in Breakfast Quay's own Rubber Band
Audio Processor.

Hth,

Ralf


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Re: ALSA instead of pulseaudio on new sid

[Walter Hurry]

On Tue, 24 Jan 2012 23:32:34 +0100, Raven wrote:

> Hi guys.
> I have a fairly new install of sid with the new fancy gnome3 and all the
> eye-candy tweaks. I don't really like it, but that's another story..
> 
> Anyway, before reinstalling sid I used to have the sound coming from
> ALSA..it was working great. Mic worked, SPDIF worked and I had real
> control over the volume level.
> Now I'm running pulseaudio. Which sucks! Digital out is mute, sound
> level seems to be reduced by 60-70% and I haven't even started trying to
> configure it for HDMI.
> I would really want to go back to ALSA, but I'm kind of afraid that it
> might break my install. I tried following some ubuntu howtos but I
> always end up with aptitude wanting to remove gnome-desktop-environment.
> Does any one have experience on how to go about for replacing
> pulseaudio? Or maybe some tips?

ALSA is not an alternative to PulseAudio; PA sits *on top of* ALSA and 
directs traffic. By default you probably have both installed, which is as 
it should be.

When PA was first released, it was a bit awkward to deal with, as Lennart 
Poettering's stuff tends to be. Hence there were many wails and howtos on 
removing PA, which can easily be found by Googling.

But PA is fine now. Perhaps the fine ALSA and PA manuals will help.


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Re:[SOLVED] Music software

[Mark Neidorff]

On Tuesday 24 January 2012 5:25:17 am Mark Neidorff wrote:
> Morning,
> 
> I'm running Mepis which is a squeeze spinoff.  I have started taking music
> lessons.  My instructor plays a tune and I record it.  I want to then play
> it back slowed down, without changing the pitch of the notes so that I can
> "play along."  Tried audacity (1.3.12), but it lowers the pitch of the
> notes when I slow the music down.
> 
> I'm looking at a package called mixxx.  There is a version for lenny,
> wheezy and sid, but not for squeeze. (yes, I tried debian-multimedia). 
> Does anyone have either a suggestion for how to get the sid package
> working or another package that will do the job for me?
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Mark

I found in the Effect menu of audacity "Change Tempo" which changes the speed 
without affecting the pitch. (exactly what I wanted)  I'm happy.

Thanks for all of the suggestions.  

Mark


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Re: ALSA instead of pulseaudio on new sid

[Scott Ferguson]

On 25/01/12 10:45, Walter Hurry wrote:
> On Tue, 24 Jan 2012 23:32:34 +0100, Raven wrote:
> 
>> Hi guys.
>> I have a fairly new install of sid with the new fancy gnome3 and all the
>> eye-candy tweaks. I don't really like it, but that's another story..
>>
>> Anyway, before reinstalling sid I used to have the sound coming from
>> ALSA..it was working great. Mic worked, SPDIF worked and I had real
>> control over the volume level.
>> Now I'm running pulseaudio. Which sucks! 

No - it's just different to what you're used to.

People said the same thing about ALSA (and aRTS). If OSS is all you'll
ever need - it works fine with kfreebsd.
But the strength of Pulse is that it allows you to use all the different
sound systems.

>> Digital out is mute, sound
>> level seems to be reduced by 60-70% and I haven't even started trying to
>> configure it for HDMI.

Because you're trying to use ALSA as the master sound system.

>> I would really want to go back to ALSA, but I'm kind of afraid that it
>> might break my install. 

Good move. You'll discover the minor pain of learning Pulse is a very
profitable investment.

>> I tried following some ubuntu howtos but I
>> always end up with aptitude wanting to remove gnome-desktop-environment.

Ignore Ubunto documentation - it's fine for Ubuntu but when you're using
Debian... (tail - dog, organ-grinder - monkey).

>> Does any one have experience on how to go about for replacing
>> pulseaudio?

Yes. There are no shortage of audio flat-earther luddites :-)

I'd suggest you read Aesop's fable about the fox losing it's tail before
automatically following their advice.

The real question is "should I replace pulse?" and the answer is "no". :-)

> Or maybe some tips?

Yes.  You should start by searching this list - the same question has
been asked before. If it's not immediately howto do so - look at my
signature.

http://pulseaudio.org/wiki/PerfectSetup
http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?t=12497

> 
> ALSA is not an alternative to PulseAudio; PA sits *on top of* ALSA and 
> directs traffic. By default you probably have both installed, which is as 
> it should be.
> 
> When PA was first released, it was a bit awkward to deal with, as Lennart 
> Poettering's stuff tends to be. Hence there were many wails and howtos on 
> removing PA, which can easily be found by Googling.
> 
> But PA is fine now. Perhaps the fine ALSA and PA manuals will help.
> 
> 

Exactly as Walter says.



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Re: ALSA instead of pulseaudio on new sid

[John Hasler]

Scott writes:
> You'll discover the minor pain of learning Pulse is a very profitable
> investment.

For those of us who are not audiophiles and have very simple audio
needs, what does Pulse add?
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Re: Just what does _DEBIAN_ mean by "live"

[Umarzuki Mochlis]

> > Yes. A so-called "live CD", or more precisely, a "live system", is a
> > complete system prepared for a CD, DVD, USB key or other medium.
> > _*You*_ do not need to install anything on the hard drive. Instead
> > you boot from the CD or other medium and _*are able to start working
> > on the machine right away*_. All programs run directly from the
> > medium. "
> >
>
>
sir, you probably had a bad day and mistakenly downloaded the lxde (for its
smaller size)


as everyone suggested, use the gnome version instead which can be get from
http://live.debian.net/archive/images/6.0.3/i386/iso-hybrid/

it the 
"debian-live-6.0.3-i386-gnome-desktop.iso"
file and do make sure the MD5SUM is correct before burning it to a DVD
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Re: ALSA instead of pulseaudio on new sid

[Scott Ferguson]

On 25/01/12 12:37, John Hasler wrote:
> Scott writes:
>> You'll discover the minor pain of learning Pulse is a very profitable
>> investment.
> 
> For those of us who are not audiophiles and have very simple audio
> needs, what does Pulse add?

Hi John, a common misconception.

Jackd is for audiophiles (compromising audiophiles)[*1].
If you want to be a "digital" audiophile then everything else is
secondary to your RT, tuned for audio, system - those sorts tend to shun
PulseAudio - despite some populist,uninformed preconceptions.

Pulse is for people with simple audio needs, *and* for those that have
audiophiles aspirations. :-)

I imagine you meant to ask "what are the benefits of Pulse Audio?"

https://www.linux.com/news/hardware/drivers/8100-why-you-should-care-about-pulseaudio-and-how-to-start-doing-it

In case Walter (or I) didn't make it clear - Pulse sits above all your
other, disparate sound systems. It allows them to all work independently
(OSS, ESS, aRTS, ALSA, SDL, JACK, etc) and give's you one place to deal
with all of them. (a sort of benevolent master)
Additionally Pulse gives you true networkable sound - other computers
running pulse can be treated as local sound devices, and vise versa. If
you run VirtualBox/VMware etc, no more fighting for the sound bus.
PulseAudio is platform agnostic - it's also becoming common on
appliances (eg. mobile phones).
You lose nothing - you can still keep ALSA and others - you only lose if
you don't use PulseAudio.

Thanks to the magic of the internet (have you heard of it?) you can find
out more here:-
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pulseaudio
http://www.pulseaudio.org/
http://freedesktop.org/software/pulseaudio/doxygen/

[*1] Audiophiles use electrostatic speakers, Class A amplifiers, and
shun the crudities of "digital" sound (apparently).


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Re: My network speed is only 10MB

[T o n g]

On Sun, 22 Jan 2012 23:14:15 -0600, Stan Hoeppner wrote:

> Ethernet at 100 Mb/s  = 12.5 MB/s
> File copy at 10 MB/s  =   80 Mb/s
> 
> Ethernet at 1000 Mb/s =  125 MB/s
> File copy at 117 MB/s =  936 Mb/s

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Re: ALSA instead of pulseaudio on new sid

[John Hasler]

Scott writes:
> I imagine you meant to ask "what are the benefits of Pulse Audio?"
> https://www.linux.com/news/hardware/drivers/8100-why-you-should-care-about-pulseaudio-and-how-to-start-doing-it

I see nothing there that I need.
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possibly defective kernel

[Jude DaShiell]

Preconfiguring packages ...
Selecting previously unselected package linux-image-3.2.0-1-686-pae.
(Reading database ... 63135 files and directories currently installed.)
Preparing to replace linux-image-3.2.0-1-686-pae 3.2.1-1 (using 
.../linux-image-3.2.0-1-686-pae_3.2.1-2_i386.deb) ...
Unpacking replacement linux-image-3.2.0-1-686-pae ...
dpkg: error processing 
/var/cache/apt/archives/linux-image-3.2.0-1-686-pae_3.2.1-2_i386.deb 
(--unpack):
 failed in write on buffer copy for backend dpkg-deb during 
`./lib/modules/3.2.0-1-686-pae/kernel/drivers/media/dvb/frontends/mb86a16.ko': 
No space left on device
configured to not write apport reports
  dpkg-deb (subprocess): subprocess 
data was killed by signal (Broken pipe)
dpkg-deb: error: subprocess  returned error exit status 2
Examining /etc/kernel/postrm.d .
run-parts: executing /etc/kernel/postrm.d/initramfs-tools 3.2.0-1-686-pae 
/boot/vmlinuz-3.2.0-1-686-pae
run-parts: executing /etc/kernel/postrm.d/zz-update-grub 3.2.0-1-686-pae 
/boot/vmlinuz-3.2.0-1-686-pae
Errors were encountered while processing:
 /var/cache/apt/archives/linux-image-3.2.0-1-686-pae_3.2.1-2_i386.deb
E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
A package failed to install.  Trying to recover:
 If this isn't defective, what device needs more space freed up?



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Re: possibly defective kernel

[Scott Ferguson]

On 25/01/12 16:43, Jude DaShiell wrote:
> Preconfiguring packages ...



> No space left on device

# df -h
?



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Nvidia Geforce GT 520

[Arno -]

I wish to install Debian 6.0.3. (64 bit) on my PC. I have a Nvidia Geforce
GT 520, which is not on the Debian Hardware compatibility list. I'm a new
user and not familiar with Debian. I would be very grateful if you could
give me clear, step by step instructions. The messages published about this
topic are not understandable for a noviced like me. Sorry.

Thank you so much!