Re: cron.daily error for apt

[Pierre Frenkiel]

On Sat, 3 Dec 2011, Bob Proulx wrote:


I do not see such a line in Squeeze or Sid.  What version of apt do
you have installed?


  hi Bob,
  it's difficult for me to understand this mess;
  I am on Squeeze. apt version is
 0.8.10.3+squeeze1
   here is my source.list
   ==
   deb http://ftp.fr.debian.org/debian/ squeeze main contrib non-free
   deb http://security.debian.org/ squeeze/updates main contrib non-free
   deb http://ftp.fr.debian.org/debian/ squeeze-updates main contrib non-free
   deb-src http://ftp.fr.debian.org/debian/ squeeze-updates main contrib 
non-free
   deb http://backports.debian.org/debian-backports squeeze-backports main 
contrib non-free
   deb http://www.debian-multimedia.org squeeze main non-free
   deb http://download.virtualbox.org/virtualbox/debian squeeze contrib
   deb http://download.skype.com/linux/repos/debian/ stable non-free
   deb http://deb.playonlinux.com/ squeeze main
   ==

   I removed /etc/cron.daily/apt, and did "aptitude reinstall apt"
   After that:
  1/ the cron file is not installed, although it is listed in "dpkg -L apt"
 the dpkg man says:
   -L, --listfiles package-name...
  List files installed to your system from package-name.
 a lot of files listed by "dpkg -L apt" are not actually installed.

  2/ net-update  is shown in apt-key --help, but not in the man.

   using "apt-get --reinstall install apt" gives the same result.

   I have also exactly the  problems on my laptop.

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Are Web-API packages need to be in the 'main' repo ?

[Alexey Eromenko]

Hello Debian People !

Debian 6.0 (Squeeze) ships packages that integrate with web services
(called in modern term 'Cloud Computing' or SaaS,
'Software-as-a-Service' if you will), such as the Facebook API.
What if Facebook decides to close down it's APIs tomorrow ?
Will Debian drop those packages from 6.0-stable release ?

I'm not saying such packages must not exist in Debian. They should.

But (!) those packages interface non-free web services, which is
politically no different than non-free software. Technically even
worse, because web-software is likely to break at any moment, change
APIs, or close down free access to it, and demand either NDA contracts
or fee-based licensing.

Perhaps they should be moved to 'contrib' category, because they
interface non-free web-services. Debian's 'main' repository seems not
the right place for any such web APIs.

[1] Debian project clarifies the diff. between 'main' and 'contrib' here:
http://www.isotton.com/software/debian/docs/repository-howto/repository-howto.html

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Re: libpam-ssh

[Jerome BENOIT]

Hello:

Actually it sounds as maintained project, as the last update is stamp 
2011/06/14:

http://sourceforge.net/projects/pam-ssh/


On the other hand, I have no trouble with it on my boxes.

Jerome  


On 04/12/11 03:38, Allan Wind wrote:

On 2011-12-04 00:56:44, Jerome BENOIT wrote:

Poor me: I really like it !


Yeah.  Me too.


/Allan



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Re: iceweasel fills in my textareas

[Alan Chandler]

On 04/12/11 07:55, Bob Proulx wrote:

Alan Chandler wrote:

In a recent upgrade (last day or two) iceweasel suddenly started
filling in empty text areas with text from a previous visit to the
web site.
...
Does anyone know a way of turning this behaviour off.


Are you talking about form fields?  If so then go to the menu
selection [Edit], [Privacy], then under the History section set
"Iceweasel will:" then select one of

   Remember history
   Never remember history
   Use custome settings for history (dropdown)

You probably are asking for Never remember history.  You might want
the custom settings with search and form history cleared while
remembering other data.

Read up on it here:

   http://support.mozilla.com/en-US/kb/Form%20autocomplete




I am not sure if this is the same or not.  I have always had a little 
dropdown box like thing appear when I start typing into a textbox with a 
selection of offerings based on the first few characters I have typed. 
It only fills the fields in if I pick it.  I like that capability.


This is different.  I arrive at what should be a blank form, and the 
textareas (NOT the simple text boxes) are ALREADY pre-filled in with the 
info from the last time I visited that form. This didn't happen before.






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Viewing contents of AR archive in KDE

[bd satish]

Hi,

Like y'all know, AR archive is used for static libraries [ libxyz.a ].
When opening it with Ark (KDE 4.4.5, Squeeze), it pops with with error
"Unable  to determine archive type". Instead it presents a list of all
archive formats which it recognizes, but this list does not include AR
archive.

I know that I can view/extract the archive using CLI ("ar t" and "ar
x") but would like to do it in GUI mode, with Ark. Note that, I'm not
interested in modifying the archive, just "view" it and "extract" it
to a temporary folder. It was working in KDE 3.5 (also with Gnome's
Fileroller). I also asked this question in Debian forums and IRC, but
no satisfactory answer.


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Trying to use Wireshark on Lenny

[Lisi]

For a course that I am doing I need to run Wireshark on Lenny.  The Lenny 
Wireshark package does not run, either on this occasion or previously.  
By "does not run" I mean that I can open it up, but I have found nothing that 
I can persuade it to do.  It just sits there.  

On the previous occasion I solved the problem by running Wireshark on Squeeze 
on my test-bed machine.  This time I am having to run both Wireshark and 
Virtual Box on the same machine, and with a lot of memory (by my standards).   
I have not got the possibility of running Squeeze or Wheezy on a machine with 
enough grunt to run Virtual box with a gig or more of RAM, which is not 
running Lenny.  None of my machines could happily spare 1GB RAM, only one has 
that much memory installed, and as of now it is not possible to use that one 
to run Squeeze.

So I am trying - and failing - to install the tar-ball.  I have tried 
Wireshark 1.7.0 tar-ball and Wireshark 1.6.4, with identical results.

It seems to me to be identifying what build I am running.  But I have followed 
instructions, downloaded the scripts it asks for, made them executable and 
moved them into my PATH.  But I still get exactly the same result when I run 
configure.  (See below.)

I am getting desperate.  I need to run Wireshark and Virtual Box on Lenny.  
Can anyone advise me how?

Lisi

Junior:/home/lisi/FTA/Wireless_Technologies/wireshark-1.7.0# ./configure
checking build system type... ./config.guess: unable to guess system type

This script, last modified 2009-06-10, has failed to recognize
the operating system you are using. It is advised that you
download the most up to date version of the config scripts from

  
http://git.savannah.gnu.org/gitweb/?p=config.git;a=blob_plain;f=config.guess;hb=HEAD
and
  
http://git.savannah.gnu.org/gitweb/?p=config.git;a=blob_plain;f=config.sub;hb=HEAD

If the version you run (./config.guess) is already up to date, please
send the following data and any information you think might be
pertinent to  in order to provide the needed
information to handle your system.

config.guess timestamp = 2009-06-10

uname -m = i686
uname -r = 2.6.32-bpo.5-686
uname -s = Linux
uname -v = #1 SMP Mon Jul 25 21:10:31 UTC 2011

/usr/bin/uname -p =
/bin/uname -X =

hostinfo   =
/bin/universe  =
/usr/bin/arch -k   =
/bin/arch  =
/usr/bin/oslevel   =
/usr/convex/getsysinfo =

UNAME_MACHINE = i686
UNAME_RELEASE = 2.6.32-bpo.5-686
UNAME_SYSTEM  = Linux
UNAME_VERSION = #1 SMP Mon Jul 25 21:10:31 UTC 2011
configure: error: cannot guess build type; you must specify one
Junior:/home/lisi/FTA/Wireless_Technologies/wireshark-1.7.0# 



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Re: Creating PXE boot image

[lrhorer]

Johann Klammer wrote:

> lrhorer wrote:
>> I have PXE booting working from my Debian "Squeeze" server, and I can
> What software package are you using? pxelinux?

Yes.

>> launch the Debian Network installer on a machine supporting PXE.  I
>> can;t quite figure out how to create a boot image from a connfigured
>> Linux workstation, though.  IOW, I have a workstation with a hard
>> disk installed that has Debian configured and working the way I want,
>> with
>> all the right utilities and device drivers.  How can I take that
>> system and create an image that will boot on diskless workstations
>> running PXE? If it matters, the workstation is using GRUB to boot
>> Linux. I don;t require this to be the case for the diskless clients,
>> but I don't mind, either, as long as everything loads properly.

> If you mean that you want to transfer _the_whole_ file system when
> booting.

Yeah, that was the idea.  I got the system to be under 100M, 
uncompressed, and under 40M, compressed.

> You could try to use the initial ram file system for doing this,
> but you will need a _lot_ of ram for this and it may take a while for
> large images.
> 
> A slightly saner approach would be mounting the root filesystem via
> NFS.

The issue there is the system will fail if the link to the NFS server 
fails.  It's going to be a wireless link, and prone to failure.  The 
advantage of a network image boot is once the initrd is loaded, the PXE 
system won't need the tftp server any longer.

> Setting this up requires on the server:
> A kernel, an initial ramdisk image(+NFS client), a pxe boot
> image(syslinux's pxelinux works alright) which loads the kernel, a
> tftp server for transferring the kernel image, a dhcp server for
> setting up IP addresses, an NFS server to export the client's file
> system... possibly more?

Yeah, I looked at this solution, but abandoned it because of the 
inherent problems.

> On the client(workstation):
> A pxe compliant network card that is not too old,

There's no network card.  This is an IOMEGA file server.  It has two 
built-in 1000M interfaces.

> WARNING:
> There are HOWTOs around which advise you to flash your card's BIOS
> using a custom variant. This is not necessary for pxelinux.
> 
> Read the documentation for initramfs-tools and syslinux.

I got the system put together, and partially booting, but at some point 
it would lock up. I'm not sure why.  I finally gave up on the network 
boot idea.  Instead, I simply did a netboot of the Debian installer - 
which is trivial - and loaded the OS on a USB Thumb Drive.  The USB 
drive will just have to remain attached to the system full time.  I 
implemented a number of procedures to limit the number of writes to the 
flash drive, so hopefully the flash drive won't have to be replaced any 
time soon.

Thanks, though.


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Re: Debian 5 update system broken

[Camaleón]

On Sun, 04 Dec 2011 10:58:13 +0800, Bret Busby wrote:

> Hello.
> 
> I am running Debian 5 on this computer (have been so far unable to
> instal Debian 6 on anything).
> 
> With an update notification (the gold star with the exclamation mark, in
> the taskbar), I got the following error.

(...)

Already reported:

http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=650880

All Debian Lenny users are affected, I guess (all my systems are). I also 
added my comments there.

It seems Debian team is already working on it :-)

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Re: Debian 5 update system broken

[Camaleón]

On Sun, 04 Dec 2011 12:05:19 +, Camaleón wrote:

> On Sun, 04 Dec 2011 10:58:13 +0800, Bret Busby wrote:

>> With an update notification (the gold star with the exclamation mark,
>> in the taskbar), I got the following error.
> 
> (...)
> 
> Already reported:
> 
> http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=650880
> 
> All Debian Lenny users are affected, I guess (all my systems are). I
> also added my comments there.
> 
> It seems Debian team is already working on it :-)

That was fast... is now solved. Good job!

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Re: Corrupted security update package files

[Florian Weimer]

* Bill Wohler:

> When updating lenny this morning (yes, upgrading is on my todo list), I
> got the following error:
>
> E: Problem with MergeList 
> /var/lib/apt/lists/security.debian.org_dists_lenny_updates_main_binary-i386_Packages
> E: The package lists or status file could not be parsed or opened.
> E: Couldn't rebuild package cache

The security archive underwent maintenance this weekend.  This issue
has been addressed.


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Re: GRUB2 themes

[Camaleón]

On Sat, 03 Dec 2011 16:19:54 -0600, Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote:

> I finally switched to grub-pc from grub-legacy. About time. Did it a
> year ago too but went back, I forget why.
> 
> Of course there is no comparison between the 2.
> 
> Found a terrific theming guide by Towheed Mohammed:
> http://www.4shared.com/file/lFCl6wxL/grub_guidetar.html
> 
> Very nicely done indeed.
> 
> Except I can't get the scrollbar to work.

Hum... here you have another nice article:

HOWTO: Splash Images with GRUB2 and GRUB-PC on Debian Linux
http://linux.koolsolutions.com/2008/12/16/how-to-grub2-and-grub-pc-installing-splash-images/

> IMO it is too bad that Debian does not put a nice theme together, it
> would look so much better at a first install.

True is that I prefer the simplicity of GRUB2 boot menu with no theming 
at all, but I agree in some environments a good-looking boot splash is 
more than welcome.

> Are there Debian Grub2 themes? All I see is Ubuntu...

Well, there is "grub2-splashimages" package (just images, not themes).

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Re: Creating PXE boot image

[Iuri Guilherme dos Santos Martins]

You may look at the ltsp-build-image command, it does exactly what you want.

I'm not saying you should use ltsp-server, you could download the source 
of this ltsp-build-image and see if you can use it in the way you want.


What that does, roughly is take a chroot filesystem (in ltsp case 
normally it is on /opt/ltsp/$arch - being $arch i386, amd64, etc.) where 
there's a fully working system with kernel and stuff, and it makes a 
image out of that chroot so it can then be sent by pxe to the thin 
clients machines. However in ltsp's case everything runs on the server 
itself, the image sent by pxe is much smaller and have only the minimal 
stuff to make the thin clients be able to run things on the root 
filesystem on the server.



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Re: Trying to use Wireshark on Lenny

[Iuri Guilherme dos Santos Martins]

Looks like that .config-guess script is not asking uname -o, which would 
return your operational system.


Check to see if there is a way to pass an argument to configure that 
tells manually which is your operational system (take the output from 
uname -o and paste it there)



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Re: Trying to use Wireshark on Lenny

[Lisi]

On Sunday 04 December 2011 14:35:46 Iuri Guilherme dos Santos Martins wrote:
> Looks like that .config-guess script is not asking uname -o, which would
> return your operational system.
>
> Check to see if there is a way to pass an argument to configure that
> tells manually which is your operational system (take the output from
> uname -o and paste it there)

Thanks, Iuri!  That sounds very likely to be usable.  But when I check, it has 
in fact printed the correct info out already. :-?  Weird.

Lisi


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Re: iceweasel fills in my textareas

[Camaleón]

On Sun, 04 Dec 2011 07:42:03 +, Alan Chandler wrote:

> In a recent upgrade (last day or two) iceweasel suddenly started filling
> in empty text areas with text from a previous visit to the web site.
> This appears to be to be potentially disasterous when I am filling in a
> new form - with the possibility of accidentally submitting what I did
> last time.
> 
> I've noticed it when asking a question on Stack Overflow, I noticed
> again just now when filling in a bug report on my home network using BT
> Mantis.

Wow... very useful (when reporting bugs, for instance) but also 
dangerous, indeed.

Does it happen for every site with html forms having a textarea or input 
fields or just happen in one specific site (e.g., Stack Overflow)? It can 
be a programming or coding "addon" for that concrete site...

> Does anyone know a way of turning this behaviour off.

I don't think this can be a "feature" at all. Should it is, it should be 
disabled by default. 

Anyway, as I always remove all of the cache data, cookies and history 
when browser closes I can't really tell if this (this → remember user's 
filled data and auto-restore it without user intervention) is the 
"normal" behavior.

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[Pkg-fglrx-devel] Bug#650699: Fwd: fglrx-driver

[lina]

Sincerely looking for advice about following error:

 more Xorg.0.log | grep WW

(WW) warning, (EE) error, (NI) not implemented, (??) unknown.
[ 16136.164] (WW) The directory "/usr/share/fonts/X11/cyrillic" does not exist.
[ 16136.195] (WW) Falling back to old probe method for fglrx
[ 16136.200] (WW) Unsupported ASIC ID 1002:675F:: in control file
[ 16136.200] (WW) Unsupported ASIC ID 1002:675F:: in control file
[ 16136.200] (WW) fglrx: No matching Device section for instance
(BusID PCI:0@1:0:1) found
[ 16137.250] (WW) fglrx(0): board is an unknown third party board,
chipset is supported

Really appreciate and best regards,

lina


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[solved] Re: Adding subtitles to video file

[Rodolfo Medina]

On Sat, 03 Dec 2011 13:53:47 +, Rodolfo Medina wrote:

>> I installed `subtitleeditor' in my Lenny system in order to add comments
>> to a certain video file but, when I try to open that file from within
>> subtitleeditor, the following error message appears:
>> 
>> 
>> GStreamer plugins missing.
>> 
>> The playback of this movie requires the following decoders which are not
>> installed:
>> 
>> MPEG-1 System Stream demuxer
>> 
>> 
>> Can anybody please suggest the proper package(s) required so to work
>> that out? I tried installing gstreamer-tools and
>> gstreamer0.10-plugins-bad, useless both.


Camaleón  writes:

> Hum... I'm not sure (this multimedia plugins issue is a complete madness 
> for us, the users :-P). 
>
> Here is what I have installed in my Lenny box:
>
> sm01@stt008:~$ dpkg -l | grep gstreamer*.*plugins
> ii  gstreamer0.10-plugins-base   0.10.19-2  GStreamer 
> plugins from the "base" set
> ii  gstreamer0.10-plugins-good   0.10.8-4.1~lenny2  GStreamer 
> plugins from the "good" set
> ii  gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly   0.10.8-1   GStreamer 
> plugins from the "ugly" set
> ii  gstreamer0.10-x  0.10.19-2  GStreamer 
> plugins for X11 and Pango
> ii  libgstreamer-plugins-base0.10-0  0.10.19-2  GStreamer 
> libraries from the "base" set


Thanks!  The package required was gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly.

Rodolfo


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Re: [Pkg-fglrx-devel] Bug#650699: Fwd: fglrx-driver

[Chris Brennan]

On Sun, Dec 4, 2011 at 10:24 AM, lina  wrote:

Sincerely looking for advice about following error:
>
>  more Xorg.0.log | grep WW
>
>(WW) warning, (EE) error, (NI) not implemented, (??) unknown.
> [ 16136.164] (WW) The directory "/usr/share/fonts/X11/cyrillic" does not
> exist.
>

This one can be safely ignored, unless you are looking for a Russian font
set.


> [ 16136.195] (WW) Falling back to old probe method for fglrx
> [ 16136.200] (WW) Unsupported ASIC ID 1002:675F:: in control file
> [ 16136.200] (WW) Unsupported ASIC ID 1002:675F:: in control file
> [ 16136.200] (WW) fglrx: No matching Device section for instance
> (BusID PCI:0@1:0:1) found
> [ 16137.250] (WW) fglrx(0): board is an unknown third party board,
> chipset is supported
>

What Brand and model video card is this? What version of the propriatary
driver? Does X actually load? can you paste this grep instead?

cat /var/log/Xorg.log.0 | grep -e "(WW)" -e "(EE)"

This will grep for all errors *AND* warnings.

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Re: [Pkg-fglrx-devel] Bug#650699: Fwd: fglrx-driver

[lina]

On Mon, Dec 5, 2011 at 12:37 AM, Chris Brennan  wrote:
> On Sun, Dec 4, 2011 at 10:24 AM, lina  wrote:
>>
>> Sincerely looking for advice about following error:
>>
>>  more Xorg.0.log | grep WW
>>
>>        (WW) warning, (EE) error, (NI) not implemented, (??) unknown.
>> [ 16136.164] (WW) The directory "/usr/share/fonts/X11/cyrillic" does not
>> exist.
>
>
> This one can be safely ignored, unless you are looking for a Russian font
> set.

Thanks for reminding, later I installed the xfonts-cyrillic. but the
warning still exist.
>
>>
>> [ 16136.195] (WW) Falling back to old probe method for fglrx
>> [ 16136.200] (WW) Unsupported ASIC ID 1002:675F:: in control file
>> [ 16136.200] (WW) Unsupported ASIC ID 1002:675F:: in control file
>> [ 16136.200] (WW) fglrx: No matching Device section for instance
>> (BusID PCI:0@1:0:1) found
>> [ 16137.250] (WW) fglrx(0): board is an unknown third party board,
>> chipset is supported
>
>
> What Brand and model video card is this? What version of the propriatary
> driver? Does X actually load? can you paste this grep instead?

AMD Radeon HD 6600M

fglrx-driver 1;11-11-3

I don't know how to check "Does X actually load?"

>
> cat /var/log/Xorg.log.0 | grep -e "(WW)" -e "(EE)"

[34.190] (WW) xf86OpenConsole: setpgid failed: Operation not permitted
[34.190] (WW) xf86OpenConsole: setsid failed: Operation not permitted
[34.194] (WW) Falling back to old probe method for fglrx
[34.369] (WW) Unsupported ASIC ID 1002:675F:: in control file
[34.369] (WW) Unsupported ASIC ID 1002:675F:: in control file
[34.370] (WW) fglrx: No matching Device section for instance
(BusID PCI:0@1:0:1) found
[34.696] (WW) fglrx(0): board is an unknown third party board,
chipset is supported
[35.486] (EE) fglrx(0): (fglrxdrm.a version = 8.91.4, expected
8.88.7). Disabling DRI.
[35.486] (WW) fglrx(0):
***
[35.486] (WW) fglrx(0): * DRI initialization failed
   *
[35.486] (WW) fglrx(0): * kernel module (fglrx.ko) may be missing
or incompatible *
[35.486] (WW) fglrx(0): * 2D and 3D acceleration disabled
   *
[35.486] (WW) fglrx(0):
***
[35.575] (WW) fglrx(0): Textured Video not supported without DRI enabled.
[36.136] (EE) fglrx(0): XMM failed to open CMMQS connection.(EE) fglrx(0):
[36.136] (EE) fglrx(0): XMM failed to initialize
[36.136] (WW) fglrx(0): No XV video playback available
lina@luv:~/Desktop$ more Xorg.0.log | grep -e WW -e EE
(WW) warning, (EE) error, (NI) not implemented, (??) unknown.
[33.528] (II) Loading extension MIT-SCREEN-SAVER
[34.190] (WW) xf86OpenConsole: setpgid failed: Operation not permitted
[34.190] (WW) xf86OpenConsole: setsid failed: Operation not permitted
[34.194] (WW) Falling back to old probe method for fglrx
[34.369] (WW) Unsupported ASIC ID 1002:675F:: in control file
[34.369] (WW) Unsupported ASIC ID 1002:675F:: in control file
[34.370] (WW) fglrx: No matching Device section for instance
(BusID PCI:0@1:0:1) found
[34.696] (WW) fglrx(0): board is an unknown third party board,
chipset is supported
[35.486] (EE) fglrx(0): (fglrxdrm.a version = 8.91.4, expected
8.88.7). Disabling DRI.
[35.486] (WW) fglrx(0):
***
[35.486] (WW) fglrx(0): * DRI initialization failed
   *
[35.486] (WW) fglrx(0): * kernel module (fglrx.ko) may be missing
or incompatible *
[35.486] (WW) fglrx(0): * 2D and 3D acceleration disabled
   *
[35.486] (WW) fglrx(0):
***
[35.575] (WW) fglrx(0): Textured Video not supported without DRI enabled.
[   [34.190] (WW) xf86OpenConsole: setpgid failed: Operation not permitted
[34.190] (WW) xf86OpenConsole: setsid failed: Operation not permitted
[34.194] (WW) Falling back to old probe method for fglrx
[34.369] (WW) Unsupported ASIC ID 1002:675F:: in control file
[34.369] (WW) Unsupported ASIC ID 1002:675F:: in control file
[34.370] (WW) fglrx: No matching Device section for instance
(BusID PCI:0@1:0:1) found
[34.696] (WW) fglrx(0): board is an unknown third party board,
chipset is supported
[35.486] (EE) fglrx(0): (fglrxdrm.a version = 8.91.4, expected
8.88.7). Disabling DRI.
[35.486] (WW) fglrx(0):
***
[35.486] (WW) fglrx(0): * DRI initialization failed
   *
[35.486] (WW) fglrx(0): * kernel module (fglrx.ko) may be missing
or incompatible *
[35.486] (WW) fglrx(0): * 2D and 3D acceleration disabled
   *
[35.486] (WW) fglrx(0):
***
[35.575] (WW) fglrx(0): Textured Video not supported without DRI enabled.
[36.136] (EE

Re: Are Web-API packages need to be in the 'main' repo ?

[Camaleón]

On Sun, 04 Dec 2011 11:36:57 +0200, Alexey Eromenko wrote:

> Debian 6.0 (Squeeze) ships packages 

What package(s), specifically?

> that integrate with web services (called in modern term 'Cloud
> Computing' or SaaS, 'Software-as-a-Service' if you will), such as the
> Facebook API. What if Facebook decides to close down it's APIs
> tomorrow ? Will Debian drop those packages from 6.0-stable release ?

This can happen with any other software package, being an API or not, I'm 
afraid.

In such case, I think the package that start using a non-free license 
would be removed from "main" repo and if the new license permits, put on 
non-free repo. In non-free repo is neither an option, only the lastest 
version that keeps an open license compatible with DFSG will remain 
available.

> I'm not saying such packages must not exist in Debian. They should.
> 
> But (!) those packages interface non-free web services, which is
> politically no different than non-free software. Technically even worse,
> because web-software is likely to break at any moment, change APIs, or
> close down free access to it, and demand either NDA contracts or
> fee-based licensing.
> 
> Perhaps they should be moved to 'contrib' category, because they
> interface non-free web-services. Debian's 'main' repository seems not
> the right place for any such web APIs.
> 
> [1] Debian project clarifies the diff. between 'main' and 'contrib'
> here:
> http://www.isotton.com/software/debian/docs/repository-howto/repository-howto.html
> 
> What's your opinion ?

I'm in the opinion of acting when/if something changes, not before. If 
the packages are now in "main" it's because there is no reason to put 
them in another section, right? :-)

And I'm not saying that this kind of things shouldn't be discussed, on the 
contrary, I'd keep tracking any application that is susceptible of 
changing its mind. Also, CC'ing to "debian-legal" could be a good idea.

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Re: Debian 5 update system broken

[Bret Busby]

On Sun, 4 Dec 2011, Camaleón wrote:


Date: Sun, 4 Dec 2011 12:13:02 + (UTC)
From: Camaleón 
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: Debian 5 update system broken
Resent-Date: Sun,  4 Dec 2011 12:15:49 + (UTC)
Resent-From: debian-user@lists.debian.org

On Sun, 04 Dec 2011 12:05:19 +, Camaleón wrote:


On Sun, 04 Dec 2011 10:58:13 +0800, Bret Busby wrote:



With an update notification (the gold star with the exclamation mark,
in the taskbar), I got the following error.


(...)

Already reported:

http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=650880

All Debian Lenny users are affected, I guess (all my systems are). I
also added my comments there.

It seems Debian team is already working on it :-)


That was fast... is now solved. Good job!

Greetings,

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Ah.

But I have just tried again, and I get

"
Could not initialize the package information

A unresolvable problem occurred while initializing the package 
information.


Please report this bug against the 'update-manager' package and include 
the following error message:


'E:Encountered a section with no Package: header, E:Problem with 
MergeList 
/var/lib/apt/lists/security.debian.org_dists_lenny_updates_main_binary-i386_Packages, 
E:The package lists or status file could not be parsed or opened.'

"

I think this is the same error as before.

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Re: Debian 5 update system broken

[Bret Busby]

On Sun, 4 Dec 2011, Camaleón wrote:



On Sun, 04 Dec 2011 12:05:19 +, Camaleón wrote:


On Sun, 04 Dec 2011 10:58:13 +0800, Bret Busby wrote:



With an update notification (the gold star with the exclamation mark,
in the taskbar), I got the following error.


(...)

Already reported:

http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=650880

All Debian Lenny users are affected, I guess (all my systems are). I
also added my comments there.

It seems Debian team is already working on it :-)


That was fast... is now solved. Good job!

Greetings,

--
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Ah.

But I have just tried again, and appear to still have the same problem.

I get

"
Could not initialize the package information

A unresolvable problem occurred while initializing the package 
information.


Please report this bug against the 'update-manager' package and include 
the following error message:


'E:Encountered a section with no Package: header, E:Problem with 
MergeList 
/var/lib/apt/lists/security.debian.org_dists_lenny_updates_main_binary-i386_Packages, 
E:The package lists or status file could not be parsed or opened.'

"

which I think is the same error message.

--
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West Australia
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 you'll know what the answer means."
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  A Trilogy In Four Parts",
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RE: Launcher controllsQuestion:solved

[John W. Foster]

Duh!!!
I found the controls in the terminal screen preferences. Don't know what
in the world I was thinking.
Thanks!!



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Re: Are Web-API packages need to be in the 'main' repo ?

[Alexey Eromenko]

> And I'm not saying that this kind of things shouldn't be discussed, on the
> contrary, I'd keep tracking any application that is susceptible of
> changing its mind. Also, CC'ing to "debian-legal" could be a good idea.

Thanks. I have contacted debian-legal.

And no, acting after those web APIs break is a bad idea.

It is the same as depending on a non-free library. In the future more
packages will start depend on non-free web API, and a single change by
non-free provider will wipe out a major chunk of Debian. It will be
very costly then. Look what happened with xBSD family -- they were
locked out of the market for 3 years due to legal battle, and had to
rewrite major chunk of OS.
So we must act before bad things happen.

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Re: Debian 5 update system broken

[Camaleón]

On Mon, 05 Dec 2011 01:48:17 +0800, Bret Busby wrote:

> On Sun, 4 Dec 2011, Camaleón wrote:

(...)

>> That was fast... is now solved. Good job!
> 
> But I have just tried again, and I get
> 
> "
> Could not initialize the package information
> 
> A unresolvable problem occurred while initializing the package
> information.
> 
> Please report this bug against the 'update-manager' package and include
> the following error message:
> 
> 'E:Encountered a section with no Package: header, E:Problem with
> MergeList
> /var/lib/apt/lists/security.debian.org_dists_lenny_updates_main_binary-
i386_Packages,
> E:The package lists or status file could not be parsed or opened.' "
> 
> I think this is the same error as before.

Forget the updater applet ;-). 

Run (as root):

apt-get update && apt-get -V upgrade

It should work just fine. If not, it can be that the repository you are 
using is still not synced/updated.

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Launcher controllsQuestion

[John W. Foster]

I use desktop launchers for a number of .php commands that execute
scripts. I run them in the terminal mode. I need to see the output and
close the terminal manually. How is this done? Currently the script
executs then the terminal screen closes automatically. I figure there is
some terminal launch command that should be added to the string that
starts the .php script, but have been unable to locate it. Any tips?

This is an example;
myaccountname@mysystemname:php 
/home/myaccountname/mediawiki-1.17.0/maintenance/cleanupCaps.php

Thanks!
frosty


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Re: Are Web-API packages need to be in the 'main' repo ?

[Camaleón]

On Sun, 04 Dec 2011 20:20:16 +0200, Alexey Eromenko wrote:

>> And I'm not saying that this kind of things shouldn't be discussed, on
>> the contrary, I'd keep tracking any application that is susceptible of
>> changing its mind. Also, CC'ing to "debian-legal" could be a good idea.
> 
> Thanks. I have contacted debian-legal.
> 
> And no, acting after those web APIs break is a bad idea.

But why have they to break? Afterall, it can "break" any package.

> It is the same as depending on a non-free library. In the future more
> packages will start depend on non-free web API, and a single change by
> non-free provider will wipe out a major chunk of Debian. It will be very
> costly then. Look what happened with xBSD family -- they were locked out
> of the market for 3 years due to legal battle, and had to rewrite major
> chunk of OS.
> So we must act before bad things happen.

I can't make any additional comments on this because it's still unclear 
to me what's the involved package(s) we are talking about and why you are 
so afraid it becomes dependant on a non-free API :-?

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Re: Are Web-API packages need to be in the 'main' repo ?

[Alexey Eromenko]

> But why have they to break? Afterall, it can "break" any package.

Nope.
Things like the Linux kernel or OpenOffice will not just break.
Even if they do -- they can be fixed, because it is Free Software.

We cannot fix applications, that are dependent on non-free web services.

>> It is the same as depending on a non-free library. In the future more
>> packages will start depend on non-free web API, and a single change by
>> non-free provider will wipe out a major chunk of Debian. It will be very
>> costly then. Look what happened with xBSD family -- they were locked out
>> of the market for 3 years due to legal battle, and had to rewrite major
>> chunk of OS.
>> So we must act before bad things happen.
>
> I can't make any additional comments on this because it's still unclear
> to me what's the involved package(s) we are talking about and why you are
> so afraid it becomes dependant on a non-free API :-?

They are already dependent on non-free API.

Those packages:

$ cat allpackages-debian6.txt | grep -i
facebooklibjifty-plugin-authentication-facebook-perl (0.9-1)
Facebook authentication plugin for Jiftylibwww-facebook-api-perl
(0.4.18-1) Facebook API implementationpidgin-facebookchat (1.67.1-1)
Facebook Chat plugin for Pidginpython-facebook (0.svn20100209-3)
Python wrappers for the Facebook APIpython2.5-facebook virtual package
provided by python-facebookpython2.6-facebook virtual package provided
by python-facebook
Using those packages is a real time-bomb.
I'm afraid that Free Software (KDE photo viewers) and browsers will
start depending on such APIs. Many developers are unwary of it's
risks.

Look here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Debian_Free_Software_Guidelines

debian-legal tests for DFSG compliance - "The Desert Island test"
KDE 1 was dependent on non-free Qt1 library -- this was the reason of
a long fight within the community.

I can assure you that using non-free web APIs is *much* more risky
than non-free library, and consequences will be fatal. (10 years from
now it will result in huge code rewrites, wiping a big chunk of
Debian, if we don't take care now)

The problem -- is that those Web APIs will be massively used across
alll and any FOSS applications 10 years from now - as mandatory
modules, if FOSS developers not warned now.

What needs to be done - is to warn users and developers about risks,
to ensure they stay optional plug-ins, for users that want more
convenience but want to sacrifice Freedom.

The only difference is that the 'non-free library' is installed on
Facebook server this time, rather than on local machine. The
dependency effect is similar, and perhaps worse.

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Re: cron.daily error for apt

[Bob Proulx]

Pierre Frenkiel wrote:
> Bob Proulx wrote:
> >I do not see such a line in Squeeze or Sid.  What version of apt do
> >you have installed?
> 
>   it's difficult for me to understand this mess;
>   I am on Squeeze. apt version is
>  0.8.10.3+squeeze1

That looks normal.

>deb http://ftp.fr.debian.org/debian/ squeeze main contrib non-free
>deb http://security.debian.org/ squeeze/updates main contrib non-free
>deb http://ftp.fr.debian.org/debian/ squeeze-updates main contrib non-free
>deb-src http://ftp.fr.debian.org/debian/ squeeze-updates main contrib 
> non-free

Those are normal.

>deb http://backports.debian.org/debian-backports squeeze-backports main 
> contrib non-free

Should be fine.

>deb http://www.debian-multimedia.org squeeze main non-free

Better to use a mirror.  Take a look at the amount of bandwidth used
by the main site.  Wow!

  http://www.debian-multimedia.org/statistics.php

Therefore to be kind there I strongly recommend using a mirror.  The
list of mirror sites is available here:

  http://www.debian-multimedia.org/debian-m.php

>deb http://download.virtualbox.org/virtualbox/debian squeeze contrib
>deb http://download.skype.com/linux/repos/debian/ stable non-free
>deb http://deb.playonlinux.com/ squeeze main

I know nothing of the quality of those repositories.  Some will
undoubtedly be high quality than others.

>I removed /etc/cron.daily/apt, and did "aptitude reinstall apt"
>After that:
>   1/ the cron file is not installed, although it is listed in "dpkg -L 
> apt"

Right.  You removed it.  It is a conffile.  Therefore the system
respects your changes to that file.  Including removing it.  The
system views removing a conffile as an intended change from the admin
and preserves that change.  I know you didn't think about it that way
but that is the way it works.

To avoid that you can set the confmiss option so that it will install
files that have been removed.

  aptitude -o DPkg::Options::=--force-confmiss reinstall apt

I always set that option in my apt.conf file so that it is the
default.

Bob


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Re: Corrupted security update package files

[Bob Proulx]

Bob Proulx wrote:
> It will need to be fixed in the security archive.  I am sure a fix
> will come through quickly.

Everything is working okay this morning.  The problem in the security
archive has been fixed.  If you had commented out or removed the
security repository for this problem then you should undo that and
reconnect with the security archive.  There is at least one new
security release available this morning.

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Re: iceweasel fills in my textareas

[Bob Proulx]

Alan Chandler wrote:
> I am not sure if this is the same or not.  I have always had a
> little dropdown box like thing appear when I start typing into a
> textbox with a selection of offerings based on the first few
> characters I have typed. It only fills the fields in if I pick it.
> I like that capability.

Okay.  That is what I have too.  And that is all I have now.  Using
the latest iceweasel (aka firefox) 8.0-3+b1 from Sid.

> This is different.  I arrive at what should be a blank form, and the
> textareas (NOT the simple text boxes) are ALREADY pre-filled in with
> the info from the last time I visited that form. This didn't happen
> before.

I would remove any add-ons that you may have installed.  Or at least
disable them.  Hopefully it will simply be a plugin behavior that can
be easily removed.  Or you might try a clean firefox profile.

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memtest86's no show

[Albretch Mueller]

~
 Probably one of you have managed to run memtest86 on a 64-bit Intel
box (hp-xw6600)
~
 I downloaded and burned memtest86 Version 4.0b (Server) (26-Oct-2011)
onto a CD, but when I boot up the box from the CD all I see is:
~
   Memtest86 Version 4.0b Server
   -

   Select Version:

   1) Boot V4.0b Server (Default)

   2) Boot V4.0a

   3) Boot V3.5b

boot: 1
Loading memtest.ready.
~
 I don't see any progress screen or anything. Running "cat
/proc/cpuinfo | grep flag"
~
 flags: fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge mca cmov
pat pse36 clflush dts acpi mmx fxsr sse sse2 ss ht tm pbe lm
constant_tsc pebs bts pni dtes64 monitor ds_cpl cid cx16 xtpr lahf_lm
~
 so it handles Long Mode (lm) (64-bit) and the installed memory:
"dmidecode --type memory" show to me 2 DMI types. Two of which look
like:
~
# dmidecode 2.9
SMBIOS 2.5 present.

Handle 0x0036, DMI type 16, 15 bytes
Physical Memory Array
Location: System Board Or Motherboard
Use: System Memory
Error Correction Type: Multi-bit ECC
Maximum Capacity: 64 GB
Error Information Handle: Not Provided
Number Of Devices: 8
~
 and the other ones like:
~
Handle 0x0038, DMI type 17, 27 bytes
Memory Device
Array Handle: 0x0036
Error Information Handle: Not Provided
Total Width: 72 bits
Data Width: 64 bits
Size: 4096 MB
Form Factor: FB-DIMM
Set: 1
Locator: DIMM01
Bank Locator: Not Specified
Type: DDR2 FB-DIMM
Type Detail: Synchronous
Speed: 667 MHz (1.5 ns)
Manufacturer: JEDEC ID:98 04 08 28 01 12 2F A4
Serial Number: A42F1201
Asset Tag: Not Specified
Part Number:
~
 The version of memtest with knoppix apparently is the 32 bit one
(same with Ubuntu, which does not seem to have a 64-bit version for
AMD software)
~
 why is memtest not working? How can I make it run on my box?
~
 thanks
 lbrtchx


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Re: Corrupted security update package files

[Bill Wohler]

Florian Weimer  writes:

> * Bill Wohler:
>
>> When updating lenny this morning (yes, upgrading is on my todo list), I
>> got the following error:
>>
>> E: Problem with MergeList 
>> /var/lib/apt/lists/security.debian.org_dists_lenny_updates_main_binary-i386_Packages
>> E: The package lists or status file could not be parsed or opened.
>> E: Couldn't rebuild package cache
>
> The security archive underwent maintenance this weekend.  This issue
> has been addressed.

Confirmed, thanks!

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Re: [OT]: Changing icedove's profile browser setting for http(s) links in emails

[Lorenzo Sutton]

On 03/12/2011 12:52, Camaleón wrote:

On Fri, 02 Dec 2011 10:30:21 +, Lorenzo Sutton wrote:


I searched allover but can't really find a solution... I need to be
running one Icedove instance with the -no-remote argument because I need
to keep profiles separate.

Now the instance running with -no-remote will give an error dialog when
clicking on a web link, complaining that "Iceweasel is already running,
but is not responding. ..." *if* Iceweasel is already open.


(...)

It seems to be a bug:

https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=382477


Alas, so it seems :( But I still can't find a way to switch the called 
browser to, say, Midori.


Lorenzo.


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Re: relocation error: and segmentation fault

[Dennis Wicks]

Arno, et al,

Thanks for the help and detail instructions. It isn't easy, 
but better than the alternative of a complete rebuild.


And no, I can't run dpkg. The only things that run are those 
that were up at the time aptitude crashed. Like Thunderbird, 
browser, gthumb, OpenOffice, etc.


Thanks again,
Dennis


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How to access bluetooth phone?

[Marc Shapiro]

I have never used bluetooth before and never had a bluetooth enabled 
phone, so please bear with me.


I have just upgraded from Lenny to Squeeze.
I have a bluetooth USB dongle on my box.
I have an LG420 through Tracphone.
I have installed Bluez.

I have turned bluetooth on at the phone and tried to search for other 
bluetooth devices (my desktop box).  It does not fins any devices.


Following some documentation that I found elsewhere, I tried:

# hcitool dev
Devices:
hci000:15:83:4B:C7:1C

# hcitool scan
Scanning ...
74:A7:22:01:5D:ED   LG 420G

# hcitool inq
Inquiring ...
74:A7:22:01:5D:ED   clock offset: 0x2326class: 0x520204

# l2ping 74:A7:22:01:5D:ED
Can't connect: Permission denied


So, the desktop seems to find the phone, but can not make a connection 
to it.  Is there something that I still need to do on the phone so that 
I can connect to it from the desktop?  What about connection the other way?


All that I need to do at this time is to be able to transfer files 
between the desktop and the phone, primarily photos and .mp3 files.


I don't know what to do next.

All help appreciated.

Marc


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Re: How to access bluetooth phone?

[Jude DaShiell]

Good so far, now make your cell phone discoverable.  That's in bluetooth 
settings somewhere then try that again.  If that fails, see if you can 
make your computer discoverable and try taking the computer over with 
the cell phone.  Some of these pieces of equipment really don't work.  

On Sun, 4 Dec 2011, Marc Shapiro wrote:

> I have never used bluetooth before and never had a bluetooth enabled phone, so
> please bear with me.
> 
> I have just upgraded from Lenny to Squeeze.
> I have a bluetooth USB dongle on my box.
> I have an LG420 through Tracphone.
> I have installed Bluez.
> 
> I have turned bluetooth on at the phone and tried to search for other
> bluetooth devices (my desktop box).  It does not fins any devices.
> 
> Following some documentation that I found elsewhere, I tried:
> 
> # hcitool dev
> Devices:
> hci000:15:83:4B:C7:1C
> 
> # hcitool scan
> Scanning ...
> 74:A7:22:01:5D:ED   LG 420G
> 
> # hcitool inq
> Inquiring ...
> 74:A7:22:01:5D:ED   clock offset: 0x2326class: 0x520204
> 
> # l2ping 74:A7:22:01:5D:ED
> Can't connect: Permission denied
> 
> 
> So, the desktop seems to find the phone, but can not make a connection to it.
> Is there something that I still need to do on the phone so that I can connect
> to it from the desktop?  What about connection the other way?
> 
> All that I need to do at this time is to be able to transfer files between the
> desktop and the phone, primarily photos and .mp3 files.
> 
> I don't know what to do next.
> 
> All help appreciated.
> 
> Marc
> 
> 
> 


Jude 



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Re: How to access bluetooth phone?

[Mark Panen]

On 05/12/2011 01:01, Marc Shapiro wrote:
I have never used bluetooth before and never had a bluetooth enabled 
phone, so please bear with me.


I have just upgraded from Lenny to Squeeze.
I have a bluetooth USB dongle on my box.
I have an LG420 through Tracphone.
I have installed Bluez.

I have turned bluetooth on at the phone and tried to search for other 
bluetooth devices (my desktop box).  It does not fins any devices.


Following some documentation that I found elsewhere, I tried:

# hcitool dev
Devices:
hci000:15:83:4B:C7:1C

# hcitool scan
Scanning ...
74:A7:22:01:5D:ED   LG 420G

# hcitool inq
Inquiring ...
74:A7:22:01:5D:ED   clock offset: 0x2326class: 0x520204

# l2ping 74:A7:22:01:5D:ED
Can't connect: Permission denied


So, the desktop seems to find the phone, but can not make a connection 
to it.  Is there something that I still need to do on the phone so 
that I can connect to it from the desktop?  What about connection the 
other way?


All that I need to do at this time is to be able to transfer files 
between the desktop and the phone, primarily photos and .mp3 files.


I don't know what to do next.

All help appreciated.

Marc




I have managed to connect my phone to Squeeze but it gets stuck at 
searching for device, i have filed a bug which has been sitting for 
months. Try install Gnome bluetooth and run bluetooth-appelet and see if 
you can pair.


--
Cheers
Mark
Debian Squeeze 6.0.3 amd64, KDE 4.4.5


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Re: gnome 3 refugee: new kernel loses keyboard and mouse.

[Hendrik Boom]

On Wed, 23 Nov 2011 16:23:09 +, Hendrik Boom wrote:

> On Wed, 23 Nov 2011 17:13:49 +0100, Lorenzo Sutton wrote:
> 
>> On 23/11/2011 17:05, Hendrik Boom wrote:

>>>
>>> But the story doesn't end there.  It gets worse.
>>>
>>> This morning I upgraded again.  Now I have a brand-new kernel
>>> (3.1.something).  Booting with it gives me a login screen with only a
>>> space for my user name (as in the old, old days) but does not respond
>>> to keyboard input not mouse activity.  I can't log in.
>> 
>> Do you know what display manager you have?
> 
> I believe it's gdm.  how can I tell for sure?

In the bootup messages it's pretty clear I'm using kdm.  So current kdm 
is incompatible with current kernel in testing.  Previous kernel works, 
though.

-- hendrik

> 
> And I should have mentioned the hardware I'm using.  It's an Asus eeepc
>  1000H -- the first eeepc that was fully compatible with free software.
> 
> -- hendrik
> 


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Running apt*, help needed

[Dennis Wicks]

Hi all,

Is there any way to run apt or dpkg, etc. so I can install 
programs/pkgs on a different system than I am running on?


I can't run anything on the other system right now, but I 
can mount the disks on a machine that is running OK.


Many TIA!
Dennis


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Re: gnome 3 refugee: new kernel loses keyboard and mouse.

[Jude DaShiell]

Only try this if your keyboard is a usb keyboard.  If you do it with a 
ps/2 keyboard you'll probably have to buy a new motherboard after the 
people with those trucks that have lots of water visit you and put your 
computer out.  pull the usb keyboard connection out of the machine before 
entering your password then reinsert the connector.  If you're very lucky, 
the kernel will detect your keyboard and allow you to attempt to log in.On 
Mon, 5 Dec 2011, Hendrik Boom wrote:

> On Wed, 23 Nov 2011 16:23:09 +, Hendrik Boom wrote:
> 
> > On Wed, 23 Nov 2011 17:13:49 +0100, Lorenzo Sutton wrote:
> > 
> >> On 23/11/2011 17:05, Hendrik Boom wrote:
> 
> >>>
> >>> But the story doesn't end there.  It gets worse.
> >>>
> >>> This morning I upgraded again.  Now I have a brand-new kernel
> >>> (3.1.something).  Booting with it gives me a login screen with only a
> >>> space for my user name (as in the old, old days) but does not respond
> >>> to keyboard input not mouse activity.  I can't log in.
> >> 
> >> Do you know what display manager you have?
> > 
> > I believe it's gdm.  how can I tell for sure?
> 
> In the bootup messages it's pretty clear I'm using kdm.  So current kdm 
> is incompatible with current kernel in testing.  Previous kernel works, 
> though.
> 
> -- hendrik
> 
> > 
> > And I should have mentioned the hardware I'm using.  It's an Asus eeepc
> >  1000H -- the first eeepc that was fully compatible with free software.
> > 
> > -- hendrik
> > 
> 
> 
> 


Jude 



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Re: Running apt*, help needed

[Victor Nitu]

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On 12/05/2011 03:13 AM, Dennis Wicks wrote:
> Hi all,
> 
> Is there any way to run apt or dpkg, etc. so I can install programs/pkgs
> on a different system than I am running on?
> 
> I can't run anything on the other system right now, but I can mount the
> disks on a machine that is running OK.
> 
> Many TIA!
> Dennis
> 
> 

Questions first.
- - Is the broken system the same architecture as the running one?
- - Is the broken system a Debian installation?
- - Do you have fakeroot & other chroot utilities installed?

If is OK by now, you can mount the broken root partition on, let's say,
/mnt, then

# chroot /mnt

Mainly, this is the idea for accessing a broken system, after chroot
log you in the mounted installation, you can issue command as you would
on a working system.

Of course, you are more than welcome to google the problem a bit, since
my email is far from accurate or complete. I'm just taking you
somewhere, but you'll have to read the map :)

Hope this helps,

Victor
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Re: gnome 3 refugee: new kernel loses keyboard and mouse.

[doug]

On 12/04/2011 08:14 PM, Jude DaShiell wrote:

Only try this if your keyboard is a usb keyboard.  If you do it with a
ps/2 keyboard you'll probably have to buy a new motherboard after the
people with those trucks that have lots of water visit you and put your
computer out.  pull the usb keyboard connection out of the machine before
entering your password then reinsert the connector.  If you're very lucky,
the kernel will detect your keyboard and allow you to attempt to log in.On
Mon, 5 Dec 2011, Hendrik Boom wrote:



No comment on the ps/2 mouse, altho I seriously doubt that it would
damage the mobo.

I'm running this on a PCLinuxOs system, and I think it also applies to
Mint and Mepis, also on this machine. Isn't Mepis a Debian derivative?
Using a Dell laptop, I find that if I cold boot the machine with
an external usb k/b plugged in, it doesn't work right, altho some keys do.
I have to disconnect the usb and then plug it back in again in order to
log in, and then everything is copacetic.
I suspect that this is more related to how the bios deals with the external
connection than the operating system, but not sure.

--doug


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Spell checking with qtm clogging client

[John S.]

I use qtm with xfce on wheezy. I like it, but I am a poor speller and I
like to have a spell checker available. With the above setup, qtm has
appears to have no spell checker. Google came up with a file:
libgtkspell0 >= 2.0.10.0 This file has been installed, but qtm does
not show it as a depends, recommends or suggested.

What best for me to do? 



John.


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Re: How to access bluetooth phone?

[Marc Shapiro]

On 12/04/11 15:21, Jude DaShiell wrote:

Good so far, now make your cell phone discoverable.  That's in bluetooth
settings somewhere then try that again.  If that fails, see if you can
make your computer discoverable and try taking the computer over with
the cell phone.  Some of these pieces of equipment really don't work.

On Sun, 4 Dec 2011, Marc Shapiro wrote:


I have never used bluetooth before and never had a bluetooth enabled phone, so
please bear with me.

I have just upgraded from Lenny to Squeeze.
I have a bluetooth USB dongle on my box.
I have an LG420 through Tracphone.
I have installed Bluez.

I have turned bluetooth on at the phone and tried to search for other
bluetooth devices (my desktop box).  It does not fins any devices.

Following some documentation that I found elsewhere, I tried:

# hcitool dev
Devices:
 hci000:15:83:4B:C7:1C

# hcitool scan
Scanning ...
 74:A7:22:01:5D:ED   LG 420G

# hcitool inq
Inquiring ...
 74:A7:22:01:5D:ED   clock offset: 0x2326class: 0x520204

# l2ping 74:A7:22:01:5D:ED
Can't connect: Permission denied


So, the desktop seems to find the phone, but can not make a connection to it.
Is there something that I still need to do on the phone so that I can connect
to it from the desktop?  What about connection the other way?

All that I need to do at this time is to be able to transfer files between the
desktop and the phone, primarily photos and .mp3 files.

I don't know what to do next.

All help appreciated.

Marc


The phone is visible and the computer does find it.  I just can't make 
any connection to the phone once I have found it.  The connection is the 
missing part.


Marc



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Re: How to access bluetooth phone?

[Marc Shapiro]

On 12/04/11 16:00, Mark Panen wrote:

On 05/12/2011 01:01, Marc Shapiro wrote:

I have never used bluetooth before and never had a bluetooth enabled
phone, so please bear with me.

I have just upgraded from Lenny to Squeeze.
I have a bluetooth USB dongle on my box.
I have an LG420 through Tracphone.
I have installed Bluez.

I have turned bluetooth on at the phone and tried to search for other
bluetooth devices (my desktop box). It does not fins any devices.

Following some documentation that I found elsewhere, I tried:

# hcitool dev
Devices:
hci0 00:15:83:4B:C7:1C

# hcitool scan
Scanning ...
74:A7:22:01:5D:ED LG 420G

# hcitool inq
Inquiring ...
74:A7:22:01:5D:ED clock offset: 0x2326 class: 0x520204

# l2ping 74:A7:22:01:5D:ED
Can't connect: Permission denied


So, the desktop seems to find the phone, but can not make a connection
to it. Is there something that I still need to do on the phone so that
I can connect to it from the desktop? What about connection the other
way?

All that I need to do at this time is to be able to transfer files
between the desktop and the phone, primarily photos and .mp3 files.

I don't know what to do next.

All help appreciated.

Marc




I have managed to connect my phone to Squeeze but it gets stuck at
searching for device, i have filed a bug which has been sitting for
months. Try install Gnome bluetooth and run bluetooth-appelet and see if
you can pair.



I do bot run gnome, or KDE.  I use fvwm, avaoiding all DEs.

Marc


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Re: Running apt*, help needed

[Dennis Wicks]

Victor Nitu wrote the following on 12/04/2011 07:20 PM:

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On 12/05/2011 03:13 AM, Dennis Wicks wrote:

Hi all,

Is there any way to run apt or dpkg, etc. so I can install programs/pkgs
on a different system than I am running on?

I can't run anything on the other system right now, but I can mount the
disks on a machine that is running OK.

Many TIA!
Dennis




Questions first.
- - Is the broken system the same architecture as the running one?
- - Is the broken system a Debian installation?
- - Do you have fakeroot & other chroot utilities installed?

If is OK by now, you can mount the broken root partition on, let's say,
/mnt, then

# chroot /mnt

Mainly, this is the idea for accessing a broken system, after chroot
log you in the mounted installation, you can issue command as you would
on a working system.

Of course, you are more than welcome to google the problem a bit, since
my email is far from accurate or complete. I'm just taking you
somewhere, but you'll have to read the map :)

Hope this helps,

Victor


Victor,

Thanks for the info!

Both machines are nearly identical so that is not a problem. 
I have already gathered a lot of pieces of the solution and 
I hope that this is the final part of the solution!


Again, thanks for the help!
Dennis


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Re: memtest86's no show

[Albretch Mueller]

// __ http://mirror.its.uidaho.edu/pub/ubuntu-releases/oneiric/
~
 DVD version of unbuntu (AMD is used for Intel x86 as well)
~
 it is a displayed boot option ("test memory")
~
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