Re: Help Installing Debian

[Camaleón]

On Sat, 21 May 2011 11:35:42 +0530, Joy wrote:

>  I am using IBM System X 3400 M3 with Raid1 and Raid5.
> Raid1 id being used to have Debian and raid5 for /home partiotion.

Are those raid over a hardware raid controller or you want to create a 
software based raid?

> Whenever i am trying to install it after creating a partition when it
> goes to format reboots my system. 

You can try to install Debian with the partitions already made and 
formatted, using the Gparted LiveCD.

> I have also tried lenny 5.8 which is not detecting my disk at all
> neither showing anything missing. 

Better than lenny is squeeze, now the current stable. If lenny was not 
detecting your hard disks that can mean that:

1/ Your hard disk controller is very new and the kernel shipped with 
lenny did not included the drivers for it.

2/ Your hard disk setup is not recognized by the installer (for instance, 
if you are using the BIOS sata raid facility and so you need to use 
"dmraid", which I do not recommend at all).

> I have tried RHEL 5.4 which says can not create boot partition because
> og GPT partitioning scheme. I could  only manage to install RHEL 6
> successfully.

I have not much experience with GPT partitioning but nowadays with 
moderns distributions it should not be a problem :-?

Debian installer logs messages to console tty4, maybe you can jump into 
it at the partitioning stage to have more information about the error.

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Re: CUPS Driver for Epson Stylus NX420 printer?

[Klistvud]

Dne, 20. 05. 2011 19:43:21 je dave boland napisal(a):



This is a little off your topic, but I have an Epson (C88) as well,  
and
wish that CUPS/driver supported ink levels, head cleaning and  
alignment,

and duplexing (the Epson Windows driver supports this with 2-pass
printing).  Any reason they are not supported?


How's this for a reason: Epson not giving a rodent's undertail for  
their non-Windows users?


Personally, I stick to a simple policy: I don't support (i.e. buy from)  
vendors who don't support Linux. Keeps me out of a *lot* of trouble.


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Re: Help Installing Debian

[Klistvud]

Dne, 21. 05. 2011 09:40:02 je Camaleón napisal(a):

[snip]


I have not much experience with GPT partitioning but nowadays with
moderns distributions it should not be a problem :-?


Don't know about LVM/RAID setups, but plain old one-disk setups need a  
(tiny) dedicated boot partition if you want GRUB-PC installed. There's  
no place for its boot code in GPT (as it was in the MS-DOS partition  
table).


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Re: CUPS Driver for Epson Stylus NX420 printer?

[Camaleón]

On Sat, 21 May 2011 09:54:49 +0200, Klistvud wrote:

> Dne, 20. 05. 2011 19:43:21 je dave boland napisal(a):
> 
> 
>> This is a little off your topic, but I have an Epson (C88) as well, and
>> wish that CUPS/driver supported ink levels, head cleaning and
>> alignment,
>> and duplexing (the Epson Windows driver supports this with 2-pass
>> printing).  Any reason they are not supported?
> 
> How's this for a reason: Epson not giving a rodent's undertail for their
> non-Windows users?

Or that no one has developed such tool because of "n" (replace "n" with 
your preferred argument, like "no man power, lack of resources, my dog 
ate my homework, etc...).

I say this because sometimes is not a matter of "open" drivers. 

For example, the HP laserjet printers we have at the office are 
Postscript so I had no problems to configure them in debian machines but 
the postscript driver performance in linux is miles away of its windows 
counterparts. Printing a PDF full of graphics and raster images is very, 
very, very slow in linux (and I say nothing if I had to increase the 
resolution up to 1200 ppp). Printing from windows to the same printer 
using the PS driver is just slow but acceptable.

So, what happens here? Same printer, open specification, open drivers and 
minutes of difference in getting the same job to print? ;-)

> Personally, I stick to a simple policy: I don't support (i.e. buy from)
> vendors who don't support Linux. Keeps me out of a *lot* of trouble.

Not an easy task... most of the manufacturers are very conservative when 
it comes to linux support. Sure, they can fully support "some" devices 
but not "all" and the user has to carefully look for a concrete printer 
model and not just say: "hey, this brand is linux-friendly, I'll buy its 
products".

I prefer stick to the standards more than manufacturers. While normative 
lasts longer, companies can fall -or change their mind- in one day :-)

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Re: Wheezy: monitor signal lost when leaving X

[Arno Schuring]

Siard (shiems...@kpnplanet.nl on 2011-05-21 02:23 +0200):
> Op Fri, 20 May 2011 13:37 +0200, Arno Schuring wrote:
> > Siard (on 2011-05-19 19:48 +0200):
> > > I upgraded Squeeze to Wheezy.
> > > After logging out of X (no matter which desktop or window manager)
> > > the screen goes black, the monitor signal gets lost, its green
> > > light turns to yellow. The only way to get out of this situation
> > > is by pressing the reset button.
> >
> > What graphics card/video driver are you using?
> ATi 9500 / R300.
Ok. I'm using R9550 here, so same generation. I'm also running the same
software stack, except for xserver-xorg-video-radeon, which is from
experimental on my machine.

> > Does it also happen if you press ctrl-alt-f1 while logged in in X?
> 
> No, and then from the console I can power off the machine normally.
That's weird. In that case, I think the problem is not with kernel
modesetting itself, but X somehow misbehaves when shutting down. Should
you be able to pin it down, you could file a bug against
xserver-xorg-video-radeon.

[..]
> Could you give the kernel command line options you have for your R300
> driver?
I'm not using any mode options myself, it's about a year ago that I
had such issues. You could try disabling modesetting completely, but
that's only a temporary solution:
radeon.modeset=0 -- or edit /etc/modprobe.d/radeon-kms.conf

It appears I was wrong about the "vary per driver" part (that's
only true for modesetting itself).

video=DVI-I:1024x768@75

see http://nouveau.freedesktop.org/wiki/KernelModeSetting for more
info. Yes, it's for nouveau but they are the only ones that offer
documentation about modesetting for the KMS case. You can get your
connector names from dmesg (in my case, VGA and DVI-I):
$ dmesg | grep -A1 Connector

> > > Since mouse + keyboard did not work in X, I deleted /run, which
> > > fixed that. Could this have something to do with it?
> >
> > Not likely. Also, look in the archives for a better solution (it has
> > been posted somewhere in the last week), or search the Internet for
> > "AllowEmptyInput".
> 
> Again, I did a new Wheezy install, it now includes the /run directory.
> xorg.conf did not exist in /etc/X11, so I created one with these
> contents:
Do you have unstable enabled, or only testing? I'm running Wheezy as
well (though not a new install), and the /run directory hasn't appeared
for me yet.

> Section "ServerFlags"
>  Option "AutoAddDevices" "False"
>  Option "AllowEmptyInput" "False"
> EndSection
> 
> But alas, still no working keyboard & mouse.
> They _did_ work after deleting /run.
Please try with AutoAddDevices set to true, since udev does correctly
recognize the devices. Assuming your mouse+keyboard are usb devices,
package to file a bug against is xserver-xorg-input-evdev. The problem
might be in udev or even initscripts, but it's safer to let the
maintainers figure out which package than guessing yourself.


Regards,
Arno


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lsusb lists nothing and webcam gone -- romance ruined

[jidanni]

Fellows, there I was all ready for a webcam call with my potential date,
but my romance was ruined by following "sid" too closely.

For the last month lsusb often doesn't list anything
http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=626368

And now my webcam is broken too.
$ luvcview
luvcview 0.2.6
SDL information:
  Video driver: x11
  A window manager is available
Device information:
  Device path:  /dev/video0
ERROR opening V4L interface: No such file or directory

Yes, I know. Don't use sid if you want a love life.

I backed out of this too new kernel,
http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=627507

Any other tips?


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Re: Weird Wifi problem -- WPA-EAP TTLS fails

[Joe]

On Fri, 20 May 2011 20:47:21 -0400
Andrew Reid  wrote:

> 
>   So, apologies for the long-windedness, but what can cause EAP to
> fail?  Do I need to add some libraries with more authentication
> schemes in them somehow?  Obviously I have all the dependencies of
> wpa_supplicant, but is there something else?
> 

I don't know if I can be of much help, as I'm running EAP-TLS with
FreeRADIUS, but you don't have any other takers yet. And all I can
suggest is that you probably won't solve this without seeing the RADIUS
logs, on what I assume is a Windows server, and I've no idea what they
call RADIUS these days. It used to be IAS on Server 2003, and I've
never had anything to do with that.

Is the Macbook a domain member, and is your machine? Some Windows
facilities are available only to domain members, and this may be one.
At the very least, RADIUS requires both human and machine to be named
in its server configuration. EAP-(T)TLS isn't just something a step up
from WPA(2), it uses a separate authentication server, and a Windows
one is tied into Active Directory. You clearly have an account, but
does your computer? If so, then the RADIUS logs will tell you what
authentication is missing.

It's possible for a non-domain computer to connect to a Windows VPN or
at least was with 2003. Do you do that? If so then you should have the
necessary authentication measures installed, if not actually configured
yet, though I believe everything necessary has been in the kernel for
some years now. I'm afraid I use the Not-Work Manager on Ubuntu to make
the connection, and I'm not logging in to Windows, and EAP-TLS is
heavy on certificates, so my configurations will be of no use to you.
EAP-TTLS also uses a certificate, but on the server only, the idea of
TTLS being that you don't need to install anything on the client.

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network-manager-gnome cannot create vpn connection successfully.

[Magicloud Magiclouds]

Hi,
  When adding a new connection, everything seemed fine. But when
connection to it, a immediate error occurred as "no valid secrets
. From the internet, they said this is a bug of network-manager-gnome
that it did not save the password to keyring, but asked for it when
connecting.
  How to resolve it? I do not want to install network-manager-kde with
so much dependencies. Can I create the connection by nmcli?
  I am using debian sid and network-manager-gnome from experimental.
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what ext filesystem for flash memory card?

[jidanni]

What filesystem shall I put on my 4GB SD flash card? ext2, ext3 or ext4, or ...?
I already erased VFAT.
Also shall I have and ext2 partition for .debs, whose safety isn't
important, and an ext4 partition for my more valuable data?
Will the journals really wear out card faster?


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Re: what ext filesystem for flash memory card?

[Camaleón]

On Sat, 21 May 2011 19:32:51 +0800, jidanni wrote:

> What filesystem shall I put on my 4GB SD flash card? ext2, ext3 or ext4,
> or ...? I already erased VFAT.
> Also shall I have and ext2 partition for .debs, whose safety isn't
> important, and an ext4 partition for my more valuable data? Will the
> journals really wear out card faster?

If you are going to use the SD card mainly as a data storage device for 
linux/unix/bsd systems and care about compatibility-without-hassle, I'd 
go for a unique ext3 partition.

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Re: CUPS Driver for Epson Stylus NX420 printer?

[Ron Johnson]

On 05/21/2011 02:54 AM, Klistvud wrote:
[snip]


How's this for a reason: Epson not giving a rodent's undertail for their
non-Windows users?



Surprising, since Epson printers used to be well-supported by CUPS.

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Re: lsusb lists nothing and webcam gone -- romance ruined

[Ron Johnson]

On 05/21/2011 05:51 AM, jida...@jidanni.org wrote:

Fellows, there I was all ready for a webcam call with my potential date,
but my romance was ruined by following "sid" too closely.


[snip]


Yes, I know. Don't use sid if you want a love life.



How oh how did humanity survive w/o webcams?  GOML!

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Re: lsusb lists nothing and webcam gone -- romance ruined

[Dotan Cohen]

On Sat, May 21, 2011 at 15:51, Ron Johnson  wrote:
> How oh how did humanity survive w/o webcams?  GOML!
>

We weren't competing with others that have them. Just like cellphones


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Re: Avoid POP3

[Chris Davies]

Miles Fidelman  wrote:
> As I said, In "standards speak."

> "Should" or "must" => always (at least if done right; anything else is 
> wrong).

> "May" => optional; alternatives are possible and allowed.

See RFC2119 (http://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc2119.txt) for a complete
definition!

Chris


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Bug

[Amir Sabbaghi]

Hello,
I'm a new user of Debian.
I have two problems with Debain, but I don't know how to report it.
I have tested Debian 6.0.1a (Squeeze) on my laptop and the first problem I
saw was that when Debain entered graphical mode my monitor goes off!!
Then I used nomodeset in boot parameters and then I was able to see
graphics, but in a low resolution (800x600).
can you tell me what is the problem please?

sorry for bad English.
Thanks.

Re: Re: login as root to GUI

[Osamu Aoki]

Hi,

On Thu, May 19, 2011 at 12:17:54PM -0400, Dick Bayerl wrote:
> I am frustrated.  I have tried installing both UBUNTU and DEBIAN with
> the same problem.  

Debian and Ubuntu are a bit different on this issue.

Since login to root using X displaymanager is not so good idea, I
mention console tricks.

Default Ubuntu system usually has no root password.  You use your main
user account and sudo with user password to gain root.

Default Debian system usually has root password.  So from user account
use su command with root password to gain root.

I do not know how you installed ...

> I never can login to root so I can't make changes to
> various files.  Not the owner.  I am just now installing DEBIAN on a
> second machine and keeping careful notes about the password to see if
> that will work.  I really like the idea of working with DEBIAN and hope
> I can get past this issue.

You need to read basics.

You go: http://www.debian.org/ click documentation and click "Debian
Reference".  I have written extensive basic guide for newbies.  Maybe
you need to start at "GNU/Linux tutorials":
http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/debian-reference/ch01.en.html
 
Osamu


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Re: Bug

[Camaleón]

On Sat, 21 May 2011 14:12:19 +, Amir Sabbaghi wrote:

> I have two problems with Debain, but I don't know how to report it. 

Two? I can only glimpse one :-P

> I have tested Debian 6.0.1a (Squeeze) on my laptop and the first
> problem I saw was that when Debain entered graphical mode my monitor
> goes off!! Then I used nomodeset in boot parameters and then I was able
> to see graphics, but in a low resolution (800x600). can you tell me
> what is the problem please?

What VGA chipset has your laptop (ati, nvidia, intel...)?

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UUID - autmatically entries?

[Hans-J. Ullrich]

Hi all, 

during an update all devices were changed from /dev/sdX to its UUID.

This included /etc/fstab and /etc/crypttab. Does somebody know, which package 
did the changes? As I had to reinstall and used my old configurations (backup), 
my UUIDs are now wrong. Of course, I can edit all files manually, but if a 
script or a package does that automaticaly, it would be easier and avoid 
errors (i.e. typos).

Just another question: Can UUIDs be changed or must they stay forever? (I saw 
the application "uuid-gen", which creates a new one, but seems not to make 
them active)

Thanks for any hints.

Cheers

Hans


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Re: Weird Wifi problem -- WPA-EAP TTLS fails

[Andrew Reid]

> On Fri, 20 May 2011 20:47:21 -0400
> 
> Andrew Reid  wrote:
> >   So, apologies for the long-windedness, but what can cause EAP to
> > 
> > fail?  Do I need to add some libraries with more authentication
> > schemes in them somehow?  Obviously I have all the dependencies of
> > wpa_supplicant, but is there something else?
> 
> I don't know if I can be of much help, as I'm running EAP-TLS with
> FreeRADIUS, but you don't have any other takers yet. And all I can
> suggest is that you probably won't solve this without seeing the RADIUS
> logs, on what I assume is a Windows server, and I've no idea what they
> call RADIUS these days. It used to be IAS on Server 2003, and I've
> never had anything to do with that.

  The WAP itself is part of a Cisco Enterprise system. I'm not
sure what the back-end authentication is, our workplace duplicates
enterprise passwords across many authentication engines (to reduce
password proliferation, a goal I heartily endorse).  I do know that
the Mac I used was not any kind of Windows domain member, and the
Debian laptop also is not.

  I've put in a support query for the server-side logs, but
the first-line support's response is "it works on the Mac, our
system is fine, Linux is not supported," and I have to admit that
for a support team with scarce resources, that's not an absurd
answer.  I have asked them specifically for the authentication
logs (and given them a precise time of the failed attempt and
the originating MAC address), but haven't heard back on that yet.

  I've googled around a bit more since my initial post, and I'm
starting to think I might actually be able to parse the wpa_supplicant
logs, and maybe sharpen my question, possibly by figuring where in
the EAP framework it's coming undone.

  What I suspect has happened is that the "squeeze" wpa_supplicant has
some kind of new default that's breaking the process, and if I can just
figure out what it is and set it to work like "lenny" did, I'll be
fine.  But, wpa_supplicant's option space is pretty big.

  I think I may be able to scare up another Linux laptop, and may
even be able to get "lenny" on there, to try to close in on this.

  Anyways, thanks for your reply, mostly just thinking out loud here...

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Re: UUID - autmatically entries?

[Tom H]

On Sat, May 21, 2011 at 12:44 PM, Hans-J. Ullrich  wrote:
>
> during an update all devices were changed from /dev/sdX to its UUID.
>
> This included /etc/fstab and /etc/crypttab. Does somebody know, which package
> did the changes? As I had to reinstall and used my old configurations 
> (backup),
> my UUIDs are now wrong. Of course, I can edit all files manually, but if a
> script or a package does that automaticaly, it would be easier and avoid
> errors (i.e. typos).
>
> Just another question: Can UUIDs be changed or must they stay forever? (I saw
> the application "uuid-gen", which creates a new one, but seems not to make
> them active)

Re the last question: assuming that you're using extX, "tune2fs -U
..." is the command.


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Re: UUID - autmatically entries?

[Hans-J. Ullrich]

> Re the last question: assuming that you're using extX, "tune2fs -U
> ..." is the command.

Hi Tom., 

yes, I am using ext2 and ext3 (encrypted). Q: Does tune2fs -U edit all entries 
in /etc/fstab and /etc/crypttab and others?

Thanks for the fast response.

Greetings 

Hans


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Re: UUID - autmatically entries?

[Tom H]

On Sat, May 21, 2011 at 1:10 PM, Hans-J. Ullrich  wrote:
>
>> Re the last question: assuming that you're using extX, "tune2fs -U
>> ..." is the command.
>
> yes, I am using ext2 and ext3 (encrypted). Q: Does tune2fs -U edit all entries
> in /etc/fstab and /etc/crypttab and others?
>
> Thanks for the fast response.

You're welcome.

No. You have to set it filesystem by filesystem with "tune2fs -U
[random|] /dev/sdXY" unless script a loop through your
filesystems.

(If you use "" in the command above, you can/have to generate it
with uuidgen.)


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Re: UUID - autmatically entries?

[Paul E Condon]

On 20110521_184436, Hans-J. Ullrich wrote:
> Hi all, 
> 
> during an update all devices were changed from /dev/sdX to its UUID.
> 
> This included /etc/fstab and /etc/crypttab. Does somebody know, which package 
> did the changes? As I had to reinstall and used my old configurations 
> (backup), 
> my UUIDs are now wrong. Of course, I can edit all files manually, but if a 
> script or a package does that automaticaly, it would be easier and avoid 
> errors (i.e. typos).
> 
> Just another question: Can UUIDs be changed or must they stay forever? (I saw 

Yes, they can be changed. Use the -U option in either mkfs.ext3 to set
a particular UUID while making the fs, or in tune2fs to overwrite an
existing UUID with one that is more to your liking. If you maintain a
small database of UUID values for your disks, you might be able to
automate. Or look into establishing for yourself a policy of using
LABEL on all your disk partitions.

The install program seems to automatically rewrite UUIDs if you ask it
to erase a partition. IMHO, the method for handling disk naming is
still a work in progress. In the meantime, my particular kluge
involves using labels. They are shorter to type and easier to remember.

My understanding is that a UUID is just a string of hex characters of
the defined length and with embedded hyphens at the defined internal
locations. Generate a half a dozen and they are almost certainly all
different, even if you are using a very bad random number generator.
That they are all different is what makes them useful. The problem is
highly over intellectualized.

HTH

> the application "uuid-gen", which creates a new one, but seems not to make 
> them active)
> 
> Thanks for any hints.
> 
> Cheers
> 
> Hans
> 
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Re: UUID - autmatically entries?

[Hans-J. Ullrich]

 
> You're welcome.
> 
> No. You have to set it filesystem by filesystem with "tune2fs -U
> [random|] /dev/sdXY" unless script a loop through your
> filesystems.
> 
> (If you use "" in the command above, you can/have to generate it
> with uuidgen.)

Ok, I understand. So I can set a new UUID, but I have manually to edit the 
required files. Hmm, I trhought, there was a debian script in a package, taht 
did those things, so I can make a dpkg-reconfigure to recall it. Thought, some 
debian/pre*something or debian/post*something did manage it soemnhow...

Hans 


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Re: Unable to connect using pidgin normally

[Camaleón]

On Fri, 20 May 2011 22:09:48 +0530, Damu R wrote:

> I am using pidgin-2.7.11-2 in my Debian Sid installation with Gnome3. 

That's a very problematic combination of programs, you know, I would 
expect problems. Sid because its own nature of being continously updated 
(libraries, applications, etc.) and gnome3 because, well... because is 
very recent and not all the programs has been ported/adapted yet.

> It does not go online when I change my status to Available. I have to
> disable and enable the account for the password dialog to appear. The
> status says that it is still waiting for network connection (even after
> I login to my account). Is there any way to fix the issue?

I would try to launch pidgin in debug mode (pidging -d), just in case you 
can see any error in the console output.

Also, try to login into GNOME using the "fallback" mode (which does not 
use the gnome-shell) and test Pidgin from there.

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Re: Avoid POP3

[Miles Fidelman]

good pointer!

Chris Davies wrote:


See RFC2119 (http://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc2119.txt) for a complete
definition!
 




Miles Fidelman  wrote:
   

As I said, In "standards speak."
 
"Should" or "must" =>  always (at least if done right; anything else is

wrong).
 


what was I thinking, I meant "shall" or "must" :-)

"May" =>  optional; alternatives are possible and allowed.
 
   


for the purposes of this conversation - what do you think - is 
"normally" a subset of "may" or of "must?"   :-)




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Re: UUID - autmatically entries?

[Paul E Condon]

On 20110521_113317, Paul E Condon wrote:
> On 20110521_184436, Hans-J. Ullrich wrote:
> > Hi all, 
> > 
> > during an update all devices were changed from /dev/sdX to its UUID.
> > 
> > This included /etc/fstab and /etc/crypttab. Does somebody know, which 
> > package 
> > did the changes? As I had to reinstall and used my old configurations 
> > (backup), 
> > my UUIDs are now wrong. Of course, I can edit all files manually, but if a 
> > script or a package does that automaticaly, it would be easier and avoid 
> > errors (i.e. typos).
> > 
> > Just another question: Can UUIDs be changed or must they stay forever? (I 
> > saw 
> 
> Yes, they can be changed. Use the -U option in either mkfs.ext3 to set
> a particular UUID while making the fs, or in tune2fs to overwrite an
> existing UUID with one that is more to your liking. If you maintain a
> small database of UUID values for your disks, you might be able to
> automate. Or look into establishing for yourself a policy of using
> LABEL on all your disk partitions.
> 
> The install program seems to automatically rewrite UUIDs if you ask it
> to erase a partition. IMHO, the method for handling disk naming is
> still a work in progress. In the meantime, my particular kluge
> involves using labels. They are shorter to type and easier to remember.
> 
> My understanding is that a UUID is just a string of hex characters of
> the defined length and with embedded hyphens at the defined internal
> locations. Generate a half a dozen and they are almost certainly all
> different, even if you are using a very bad random number generator.
> That they are all different is what makes them useful. The problem is
> highly over intellectualized.
> 

Also, dumpe2fs allows you to verify that you have done your work to
your liking. ;0

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Re: UUID - autmatically entries?

[Tom H]

On Sat, May 21, 2011 at 1:33 PM, Hans-J. Ullrich  wrote:
>
>> No. You have to set it filesystem by filesystem with "tune2fs -U
>> [random|] /dev/sdXY" unless script a loop through your
>> filesystems.
>>
>> (If you use "" in the command above, you can/have to generate it
>> with uuidgen.)
>
> Ok, I understand. So I can set a new UUID, but I have manually to edit the
> required files. Hmm, I trhought, there was a debian script in a package, taht
> did those things, so I can make a dpkg-reconfigure to recall it. Thought, some
> debian/pre*something or debian/post*something did manage it soemnhow...

IIUC, it's partman-target that performs the change from traditional to
UUID styles in fstab. Whether and how you can use it outside of d-i, I
have no idea, sorry.


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Re: UUID - autmatically entries?

[Camaleón]

On Sat, 21 May 2011 11:33:17 -0600, Paul E Condon wrote:

> The install program seems to automatically rewrite UUIDs if you ask it
> to erase a partition. IMHO, the method for handling disk naming is still
> a work in progress. In the meantime, my particular kluge involves using
> labels. They are shorter to type and easier to remember.

(...)

I'd say there is no perfect method to manage this.

I still miss the old-plain-intuitive method for designating block devices 
(hda → first ide, hdb → second ide device, sda → first scsi/sata device, 
etc...) but we have to cope the new changes because they are vry much 
needed (nowadays we connect many devices of diverse nature, most of them 
hot-swappable and they cannot overlap).

In this regard, every user chooses the best method for identifying hard 
disks (I like labels for removable devices and uuid/id for fixed hard 
disks) but lastly this is just a matter of convenience, here there is no 
"one size fits all", no method is perfect for all the situations and all 
of them have their own drawbacks.

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Re: CUPS Driver for Epson Stylus NX420 printer?

[Rick Thomas]

Actually, the evidence in this particular case is pretty optimistic:

1) I was able to find a (binary i386/AMD64 only) driver at  
OpenPrinting.Org with only a little bit of google-ing.


2) When I whined about not being able to use i386 binaries on my ARM  
machine, Camaleón (thanks!) found a source RPM at the same site.  I  
haven't taken the RPM apart and compiled it yet, but it's certainly a  
start.


If Epson had a hand in making that driver available to OpenPrinting,  
I'd have to say they care more than most about their non-Windows users.


For my money, we'd all be better off if the energy expended in  
complaining about lack of support for open source by commercial  
companies (who have a fiduciary --hence legal-- responsibility to  
their share holders, and only a somewhat tenuous moral responsibility  
to open-source users) were better used in figuring out why it seg- 
faults when used as a CUPS network printer.


If you really support open source software, put your time and talent  
where your mouth is.  Help make it better!


Just my two cents...

Rick

On May 21, 2011, at 5:49 AM, Ron Johnson wrote:


On 05/21/2011 02:54 AM, Klistvud wrote:
[snip]


How's this for a reason: Epson not giving a rodent's undertail for  
their

non-Windows users?



Surprising, since Epson printers used to be well-supported by CUPS.



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"GTK - WARNING ++ : XID collision, trouble ahead

[Charles Blair]

   I recently installed squeeze on a laptop with an ethernet
connection.  When I run iceweasel from "root terminal," it
works sometimes, and seems to refuse to connect to the outside
world other times.

   This may be connected to the message I see when I do successfully
use and exit from iceweasel:

Gdk - WARNING  ++ : XID collision, trouble ahead

   Thanks for any advice


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Re: Wheezy: monitor signal lost when leaving X

[Siard]

Op Sat, 21 May 2011 11:07, Arno Schuring wrote:
> Siard (on 2011-05-21 02:23 +0200):
> > Op Fri, 20 May 2011 13:37 +0200, Arno Schuring wrote:
> > > Siard (on 2011-05-19 19:48 +0200):
> > > > I upgraded Squeeze to Wheezy.
> > > > After logging out of X (no matter which desktop or window
> > > > manager) the screen goes black, the monitor signal gets lost,
> > > > its green light turns to yellow. The only way to get out of
> > > > this situation is by pressing the reset button.
> > >
> > > What graphics card/video driver are you using?
> >
> > ATi 9500 / R300.
>
> Ok. I'm using R9550 here, so same generation. I'm also running the
> same software stack, except for xserver-xorg-video-radeon, which is
> from experimental on my machine.
> 
> > > Does it also happen if you press ctrl-alt-f1 while logged in in X?
> > 
> > No, and then from the console I can power off the machine normally.
>
> That's weird. In that case, I think the problem is not with kernel
> modesetting itself, but X somehow misbehaves when shutting down.
> Should you be able to pin it down, you could file a bug against
> xserver-xorg-video-radeon.

I finally found that the problem goes away if I downgrade
xserver-xorg-video-ati and xserver-xorg-video-radeon from 6.14.1-1 to
6.13.1-2, which is the version from Stable.
B.t.w., it did pull a bunch of other downgrades with it.

Your explanation about disabling modesetting looks interesting enough
to have a look at one day (thanks!), but that does not appear to be at
issue now.

> > > > Since mouse + keyboard did not work in X, I deleted /run, which
> > > > fixed that. Could this have something to do with it?
> > >
> > > Not likely. Also, look in the archives for a better solution (it
> > > has been posted somewhere in the last week), or search the
> > > Internet for "AllowEmptyInput".
> > 
> > Again, I did a new Wheezy install, it now includes the /run
> > directory. xorg.conf did not exist in /etc/X11, so I created one
> > with these contents:
>
> Do you have unstable enabled, or only testing? I'm running Wheezy as
> well (though not a new install), and the /run directory hasn't
> appeared for me yet.

I have only lines for wheezy in /etc/apt/sources.list.

> > Section "ServerFlags"
> >  Option "AutoAddDevices" "False"
> >  Option "AllowEmptyInput" "False"
> > EndSection
> > 
> > But alas, still no working keyboard & mouse.
> > They _did_ work after deleting /run.
>
> Please try with AutoAddDevices set to true, since udev does correctly
> recognize the devices.

That does not make mouse + keyboard work either.
At boot time I see this line:

startpar: service(s) returned failure: udev... failed!

This line does not appear when /run is not present.

> Assuming your mouse+keyboard are usb devices, package to file a bug
> against is xserver-xorg-input-evdev. The problem might be in udev or
> even initscripts, but it's safer to let the maintainers figure out
> which package than guessing yourself.

Nope, my mouse + keyboard are PS/2 devices.


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Re: UUID - autmatically entries? (?OT)

[Paul E Condon]

On 20110521_175742, Camaleón wrote:
> On Sat, 21 May 2011 11:33:17 -0600, Paul E Condon wrote:
> 
> > The install program seems to automatically rewrite UUIDs if you ask it
> > to erase a partition. IMHO, the method for handling disk naming is still
> > a work in progress. In the meantime, my particular kluge involves using
> > labels. They are shorter to type and easier to remember.
> 
> (...)
> 
> I'd say there is no perfect method to manage this.

But sometimes the perfect is the enemy of the vastly better. I simply 
cannot believe that the current situation will persist through the
next several releases of Debian. Something better will be found, IMHO.

> I still miss the old-plain-intuitive method for designating block devices 
> (hda → first ide, hdb → second ide device, sda → first scsi/sata device, 
> etc...) but we have to cope the new changes because they are vry much 
> needed (nowadays we connect many devices of diverse nature, most of them 
> hot-swappable and they cannot overlap).
> 
> In this regard, every user chooses the best method for identifying hard 
> disks (I like labels for removable devices and uuid/id for fixed hard 
> disks) but lastly this is just a matter of convenience, here there is no 
> "one size fits all", no method is perfect for all the situations and all 
> of them have their own drawbacks.

I agree that labels are good on hot pluggable devices. I think that
happens under Gnome, at least in some circumstances. (or at least it has
happened on my computer at times when I have had Gnome installed.) 

I think labels could be made to work for internal devices with a small
measure of cooperation from the installer. What is needed, in my naive
opinion, is that the installer use a label if one present on a
partition and if it does not conflict with a label that it has already
seen in a once through scan of the block special devices. Only if
there is a name collision would it use a UUID, and it would generate a
new UUID only if the pre-existing UUID conflicts with an already seen
the UUID that is on a unlabeled partition.

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Re: CUPS Driver for Epson Stylus NX420 printer?

[Lisi]

On Saturday 21 May 2011 19:26:26 Rick Thomas wrote:
> If you really support open source software, put your time and talent  
> where your mouth is.  Help make it better!

If you have the tenacity and drive, by not buying hw that has no Linux support 
and telling the company concerned what you have done and why?

Some of us are not scripters and cannot actually reverse engineer drivers, but 
if enough of us complained in this manner it might impact on the 
shareholders.

Sadly, I fear that there are not enough from what is a small pool in the first 
place to have an impact.

Personally, I am just grateful that some companies (e.g. HP and Samsung) _do_ 
have good drivers for most of their printers.

Lisi


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Re: Unable to boot squeeze on sw raid array when external USB drive connected

[Peter Tenenbaum]

The consensus of people whom I've talked to is that, at the point where grub
freezes, there's a problem with misidentification of hard drives when the
USB drive is present (in essence, the USB drive is being mistaken for a
member of the RAID-1 array; when the drive is absent, this mistake is not
made).

When grub2 is used with a RAID-1 array configured via mdadm, how do I
determine which drives grub2 will identify as being in the RAID array?  Is
there some configuration information somewhere that I can see which will
tell me this?

Thanks in advance,
-PT

On Thu, May 19, 2011 at 9:04 PM, Peter Tenenbaum <
peter.g.tenenb...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi there --
>
> I am running squeeze with a non-RAID boot partition and a RAID-1 main
> partition.  I use GRUB2 as my bootloader.  My problem is the following:
>
> When I have my Seagate FreeAgent USB hard drive connected to the computer,
> it's unable to boot, instead it hangs with the "Welcome to GRUB!" message on
> the screen.  Through copious use of echo statements, I've traced the problem
> down to the following code block near the top of grub.cfg:
>
> insmod raid
> insmod mdraid
> insmod part_msdos
> insmod part_msdos
> insmod ext2
>
> The first statement executes correctly; it hangs while trying to execute
> the second statement, insmod mdraid.
>
> Any idea what the problem might be, and how to cure it?
>
> Thanks in advance,
> -PT
>

Re: Bug

[Andrei Popescu]

On Sb, 21 mai 11, 16:35:53, Camaleón wrote:
> On Sat, 21 May 2011 14:12:19 +, Amir Sabbaghi wrote:
> 
> > I have two problems with Debain, but I don't know how to report it. 
> 
> Two? I can only glimpse one :-P
> 
> > I have tested Debian 6.0.1a (Squeeze) on my laptop and the first
> > problem I saw was that when Debain entered graphical mode my monitor
> > goes off!! Then I used nomodeset in boot parameters and then I was able
> > to see graphics, but in a low resolution (800x600). can you tell me
> > what is the problem please?
> 
> What VGA chipset has your laptop (ati, nvidia, intel...)?

The output of 'lspci -nn | grep VGA' would be useful. 

Regards,
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Re: UUID - autmatically entries?

[Andrei Popescu]

On Sb, 21 mai 11, 18:44:36, Hans-J. Ullrich wrote:
> Hi all, 
> 
> during an update all devices were changed from /dev/sdX to its UUID.
> 
> This included /etc/fstab and /etc/crypttab. Does somebody know, which package 
> did the changes? As I had to reinstall and used my old configurations 
> (backup), 
> my UUIDs are now wrong. Of course, I can edit all files manually, but if a 
> script or a package does that automaticaly, it would be easier and avoid 
> errors (i.e. typos).

Hmm, I see this question was not answered yet. IIRC it is 
linux-support-. Try reinstalling it.

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Re: "GTK - WARNING ++ : XID collision, trouble ahead

[Ron Johnson]

On 05/21/2011 02:09 PM, Charles Blair wrote:

I recently installed squeeze on a laptop with an ethernet
connection.


Wired, you mean?


 When I run iceweasel from "root terminal," it


Bad, bad, bad form.  Just like logging into Windows as Administrator.

Don't do that.


works sometimes, and seems to refuse to connect to the outside
world other times.



Are you sure that the network connection is active?


This may be connected to the message I see when I do successfully
use and exit from iceweasel:

Gdk - WARNING  ++ : XID collision, trouble ahead



Nah.  That's an old and common GUI error cuse, I think, by Flash.

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How to tell cdbs to work only on 2 out of 7 debs in debian/control?

[Regid Ichira]

  debian/control of the nut source package has about 7 binary debs,
say A ... G.
They are built using cdbs.  What should I put in debian/rules in order to 
have it build only A and B?  I have tried with DH_OPTIONS and 
DH_LISTPACKAGES.  It didn't work.  I always end up with all the 7 binary
debs.  It could be that I used the wrong syntax, or that DH_OPTIONS and 
DH_LISTPACKAGES are not the right direction.

  The rules file that the debian maintainer uses for building all the debs is:

$ cat debian/rules
#!/usr/bin/make -f

include /usr/share/cdbs/1/rules/debhelper.mk
include /usr/share/cdbs/1/class/autotools.mk

DEB_HOST_ARCH_OS := $(shell dpkg-architecture -qDEB_HOST_ARCH_OS 2>/dev/null)


DEB_CONFIGURE_EXTRA_FLAGS := --prefix=/usr \
 --exec-prefix=/ \
 --sysconfdir=/etc/nut \
 --mandir=/usr/share/man \
 --libdir=/lib \
 --includedir=/usr/include \
 --without-ssl \
 --with-hal \
 --with-cgi \
 --with-dev \
 --enable-static \
 --with-statepath=/var/run/nut \
 --with-altpidpath=/var/run/nut \
 --with-drvpath=/lib/nut \
 --with-cgipath=/usr/lib/cgi-bin/nut \
 --with-htmlpath=/usr/share/nut/www \
 --with-pidpath=/var/run/nut \
 --datadir=/usr/share/nut \
 --with-pkgconfig-dir=/usr/lib/pkgconfig \
 --with-user=nut --with-group=nut

ifeq (linux,$(DEB_HOST_ARCH_OS))
  DEB_CONFIGURE_EXTRA_FLAGS+=--with-udev-dir=/lib/udev
endif

common-install-arch::
  # install the bash completion script
  mkdir -p $(CURDIR)/debian/tmp/etc/bash_completion.d
  cp $(CURDIR)/scripts/misc/nut.bash_completion \
$(CURDIR)/debian/tmp/etc/bash_completion.d/nut

  # install the default configuration
  for f in $(CURDIR)/debian/tmp/etc/nut/*; do   \
nf=`basename $${f} | sed 's/\(.*\).sample/\1/'`;  \
mv $${f} $(CURDIR)/debian/tmp/etc/nut/$${nf};  \
  done

DEB_DH_INSTALLINIT_ARGS_nut := -- start 50 2 3 4 5 . stop 50 0 1 6 .

ifeq (linux,$(DEB_HOST_ARCH_OS))
# for Debian
  DEB_DH_GENCONTROL_ARGS := -- -Vudev="udev (>= 0.124-1)"
# for Ubuntu
# DEB_DH_GENCONTROL_ARGS := -- -Vudev="udev (>= 136-1)"
endif


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Re: lsusb lists nothing and webcam gone -- romance ruined

[Ron Johnson]

On 05/21/2011 08:07 AM, Dotan Cohen wrote:

On Sat, May 21, 2011 at 15:51, Ron Johnson  wrote:

How oh how did humanity survive w/o webcams?  GOML!



We weren't competing with others that have them. Just like cellphones



Fight with different weapons: "I comb my hair and don't wear rags."

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Re: Avoid POP3

[Ron Johnson]

On 05/21/2011 12:51 PM, Miles Fidelman wrote:
[snip]


for the purposes of this conversation - what do you think - is
"normally" a subset of "may" or of "must?" :-)



Neither.

From The Collaborative International Dictionary of English v.0.48 [gcide]:

  Normal \Nor"mal\ (n[^o]r"mal), a. [L. normalis, fr. norma rule,
 pattern, carpenter's square; prob. akin to noscere to know;
 cf. Gr. gnw`rimos well known, gnw`mwn gnomon, also,
 carpenter's square: cf. F. normal. See {Known}, and cf.
 {Abnormal}, {Enormous}.]
 [1913 Webster]
 1. According to an established norm, rule, or principle;
conformed to a type, standard, or regular form; performing
the proper functions; not abnormal; regular; natural;
analogical.
[1913 Webster]

From The Collaborative International Dictionary of English v.0.48 [gcide]:

  Norm \Norm\, n. [L. norma a rule. See {Normal}, a.]
 [1913 Webster]
 1. A rule or authoritative standard; a model; a type; as,
deviations from the norm are not tolerated.
[1913 Webster +PJC]

 2. (Biol.) A typical, structural unit; a type. --Agassiz.
[1913 Webster]


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Re: first mkdir takes a long time (on ext3)

[Karl Vogel]

>> On 19/05/11 17:01, Hartmut Niemann wrote:
H> It often takes very long time (20s) to mkdir on an ext3 drive

>> Am Fr Mai 20 2011 schrieb Karl Vogel:
K> What does "strace mkdir /some/directory" show?

>> On Fri, 20 May 2011 08:38:41 +0200,  said:
H> $ strace mkdir two
H> execve("/bin/mkdir", ["mkdir", "two"], [/* 18 vars */]) = 0
H> brk(0)   = 0x9342000
H> access("/etc/ld.so.nohwcap", F_OK)   = -1 ENOENT (No such file ...
H> mmap2(NULL, 8192, PROT_READ|PROT_WRITE, MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_ANONYMOUS...
H> access("/etc/ld.so.preload", R_OK)   = -1 ENOENT (No such file ...
H> open("/etc/ld.so.cache", O_RDONLY)   = 3
H> fstat64(3, {st_mode=S_IFREG|0644, st_size=41270, ...}) = 0
H> mmap2(NULL, 41270, PROT_READ, MAP_PRIVATE, 3, 0) = 0xb78be000
H> close(3) = 0
H> access("/etc/ld.so.nohwcap", F_OK)   = -1 ENOENT (No such file ...
H> open("/lib/libselinux.so.1", O_RDONLY)  = 3
H> ...

   I installed a more recent version of GNU coreutils from source, and
   compared /bin/mkdir to /usr/local/bin/mkdir.  I found /bin/mkdir gives
   output like yours, but the /usr/local output is much shorter and doesn't
   include any references to selinux:

 me% strace -r /usr/local/bin/mkdir three
 0.00 execve("/usr/local/bin/mkdir", ["mkdir", "three"], ...
 0.000480 brk(0) = 0x196f2000
 0.76 mmap(NULL, 4096, PROT_READ|PROT_WRITE, MAP_PRIVATE|...
 0.85 uname({sys="Linux", node="cmswbk002", ...}) = 0
 0.000139 access("/etc/ld.so.preload", R_OK) = -1 ENOENT (No such ...
 0.99 open("/etc/ld.so.cache", O_RDONLY) = 3
 0.66 fstat(3, {st_mode=S_IFREG|0644, st_size=67370, ...}) = 0
 0.000103 mmap(NULL, 67370, PROT_READ, MAP_PRIVATE, 3, 0) = ...
 0.55 close(3) = 0
 0.71 open("/lib64/libc.so.6", O_RDONLY) = 3
 0.65 read(3, "\177ELF\2\1\1\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\3\0>\0\1\0\0\0\...
 0.73 fstat(3, {st_mode=S_IFREG|0755, st_size=1717800, ...}) =...
 0.93 mmap(NULL, 4096, PROT_READ|PROT_WRITE, MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_A...
 0.71 mmap(0x32bce0, 3498328, PROT_READ|PROT_EXEC, MAP_PRI...
 0.79 mprotect(0x32bcf4e000, 2093056, PROT_NONE) = 0
 0.63 mmap(0x32bd14d000, 20480, PROT_READ|PROT_WRITE, MAP_PRIV...
 0.78 mmap(0x32bd152000, 16728, PROT_READ|PROT_WRITE, MAP_PRIV...
 0.62 close(3) = 0
 0.71 mmap(NULL, 4096, PROT_READ|PROT_WRITE, MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_A...
 0.60 arch_prctl(ARCH_SET_FS, 0x2ae92dd5f230) = 0
 0.000143 mprotect(0x32bd14d000, 16384, PROT_READ) = 0
 0.69 mprotect(0x32bc01b000, 4096, PROT_READ) = 0
 0.56 munmap(0x2ae92dd4d000, 67370) = 0
 0.000141 mkdir("three", 0777) = 0
 0.000148 close(1) = 0
 0.60 close(2) = 0
 0.62 exit_group(0) = ?

   "-r" prints a relative timestamp upon entry to each system call.

H> This run was fast (less than 1 second).  Unfortunately I do not know
H> when mkdir takes long and can't reproduce it today, so I can't tell
H> whether a strace of a slow mkdir is different.

   Try this version of mkdir earlier in your PATH until you find out what
   the delay is.

 you% mkdir /tmp/mkdir
 you% chmod 1777 /tmp/mkdir

 you% cat /usr/local/bin/mkdir
 #!/bin/sh
 tfile=$(date '+%Y%m%d%H%M%S')
 exec /usr/bin/strace -r -o /tmp/mkdir/$tfile /bin/mkdir ${1+"$@"}
 exit 1

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Re: UUID - autmatically entries?

[annathemermaid]

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On 21/05/2011, Camaleón  wrote:
> On Sat, 21 May 2011 11:33:17 -0600, Paul E Condon wrote:
>
>> The install program seems to automatically rewrite UUIDs if you
ask it
>> to erase a partition. IMHO, the method for handling disk naming
is still
>> a work in progress. In the meantime, my particular kluge
involves using
>> labels. They are shorter to type and easier to remember.
>
> (...)
>
> I'd say there is no perfect method to manage this.
>
> I still miss the old-plain-intuitive method for designating block
devices
> (hda → first ide, hdb → second ide device, sda → first scsi/sata
device,
> etc...) but we have to cope the new changes because they are vry
much
> needed (nowadays we connect many devices of diverse nature, most
of them
> hot-swappable and they cannot overlap).

I recently performed a manual installation of Debian, bypassing
partman (in order to bypass a severe problem with partman and/or
yaboot that was breaking another OS), and thus configured the fstab
manually. I used devices, just like I always do when editing
fstabs. It works fine. I don't see any reason to change it? What do
UUIDs give me that /dev/hdx or /dev/sdx don't, aside from being
harder to read and a pain to setup?

> In this regard, every user chooses the best method for
identifying hard
> disks (I like labels for removable devices and uuid/id for fixed
hard
> disks) but lastly this is just a matter of convenience, here
there is no
> "one size fits all", no method is perfect for all the situations
and all
> of them have their own drawbacks.
>
> Greetings,
>
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Re: UUID - autmatically entries?

[Paul E Condon]

On 20110522_035930, annathemerm...@hush.com wrote:
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> 
snip...
> 
> I recently performed a manual installation of Debian, bypassing
> partman (in order to bypass a severe problem with partman and/or
> yaboot that was breaking another OS), and thus configured the fstab
> manually. I used devices, just like I always do when editing
> fstabs. It works fine. I don't see any reason to change it? What do
> UUIDs give me that /dev/hdx or /dev/sdx don't, aside from being
> harder to read and a pain to setup?
> 
more snip ...

As I understand it, there can be a problem if you add or remove
peripheral internal hardware, i.e. add or remove a single hard disk on
a system that has half a dozen hard disks , can result in *all* the
hard disks getting different device names assigned on the next boot and
stay that way until corrective action is taken manually. It has to do
with changes in the way the kernel goes about discovering what is
connected and assigning a device designation to each discovered piece
of hardware. So, it is a fix for a problem that you may never
experience. But if you reject/disable the fix and you do make changes
in the disks on a computer, you might be in for a heap of grief,
maybe. And when/if it happens, you will get some sympathy from the
developers who kindly spend time watching this list, but maybe not so
much sympathy as you would like. At the very least, I urge you to
educate yourself on this issue.

HTH


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Re: Adventures multi-booting late 2003 iBook G3 (was: What is this Apple Bootstrap thing of which the installer speaks?)

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I actually found a horribly convoluted way of installing Debian
without breaking Mac OS 9.2.2. However, my G3 does apparently have
hardware support for large disks. I can partition the whole disk
from Tiger and Mac OS 9.2.2 can still be installed and booted. I
haven't tried asking Mac OS 9.2.2 to actually boot from or mount
any partitions over the 128GB limit, but it doesn't appear to be
bothered by it. I'm not sure what is happening differently on your
computer. According to Speedtools, it ought not be a problem for
Mac OS Classic so long as Classic doesn't actually need any
partition above the 128GB limit. I don't use Speedtools, but that's
what they say ought to happen if you boot without it.

I do remember on one occasion, I partitioned Debian with partman
but did not install yaboot, and Mac OS 9.2.2 still booted, until I
installed yaboot. On another occasion that I installed Debian w/out
yaboot, having partitioned with partman, Mac OS 9.2.2 did become
broken. The first time, the disk was initially partition with OS X -
- - the second time, with Classic. Perhaps when partman saw the
Classic parition table was smaller than the actual disk, it felt an
obsessive compulsive need to fix it by re-initializing, and in
doing so, broke the partition map. I'm really not sure.

In any case, for me at least, bypassing both partman and automatic
yaboot installation fixed the problem, although it did involve
wiping the disk and starting from scratch. It sound like maybe you
were having a slightly different problem. I think perhaps there are
multiple bugs here.

On 20/05/2011, Joel Rees  wrote:
> I blogged about this a couple of years back. (Fedora, rather than
> Debian.) You may have discovered this all the hard way by now, but
> I'll post the link anyway:
>
> http://reiisi.blogspot.com/2009/05/fedora-on-old-clamshell-
ibook.html
>
> I think the only thing the blog really adds is that you can
probably
> get around the Mac OS 9 partition being walked on by something
like
> the following:
>
> After your fresh install of Mac OS 9, make sure it's updated as
far as
> you want the Mac OS 9 system updated, and make sure there's a
copy of
> the Apple Hard Disk utility on the Mac OS 9 partition.
>
> iBooks with Firewire can boot from an external drive. After a
certain
> model number (check Apple's hardware pages) hey can boot from USB
as
> well as Firewire. So you can make a copy of your booting Mac OS 9
> partition (with Apple's disk imaging utility, or, even by
> drag-and-drop copying, usually) and boot from an external drive in
> some cases.
>
> If that doesn't work for you, you should still be able to copy the
> partition and burn a CD-R (but not CD-RW) from the copy, and end
up
> with a bootable CD from which to run Apple's HD Utilitiy.
>
> (Ergo, to get you out of the bind when Debian's installer walks
on the
> Mac OS 9 partiions.)
>
> (I did file a bug on this in Fedora's Bugzilla, but they couldn't
get
> the hardware and the spare personnel with the technical expertise
all
> together long enough to fix it, I think. Wish I had the time to
look
> at it myself.)
>
> On Fri, May 20, 2011 at 4:10 AM,   wrote:
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>> On Wed, 18 May 2011 17:23:26 + annathemerm...@hush.com wrote:
>>>On Thu, 05 May 2011 18:14:43 + Roger Leigh
>>> wrote:
> Now that Debian is up and running, is there documentation
somewhere
> explaining how to make yaboot offer options to boot OpenBSD
and/or
> NetBSD?

It should be possible, but AFAIK it's currently broken:
http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=372780

Looks like it's simple to fix, but there wasn't anyone who could
test it properly.

Regards,
Roger
>>>
>>>I've been having a more serious issue with yaboot: it seems to
>>>wreck the Mac Os Classic disk drivers so Mac OS 9.2.2 can't boot
>>>anymore. Instead, it just shows this sort of flashing flopping
>>>image. Apparently, the usual workaround is to boot into the
>>>Classic
>>>install CD and select the Update Drivers function from the Disk
>>>Setup. Unfortunately, since I have a late 2003 model that barely
>>>supports booting into Classic, the installation program is only
>>>capable of running from withing OS X's Classic Mode; it doesn't
>>>work when booted directly off the CD. The Tiger and Panther
>>>installation disks only seem to be capable of installing the
>>>drivers when partitioning the disk from scratch; they don't know
>>>how to fix the drivers without wiping the disk. So, no Update
>>>Drivers for me. The problem does not occur if Debian is installed
>>>without the yaboot Apple_Bootstrap partition, but then, of
course,
>>>there's no way to boot Debian. Creating the Apple_Bootstrap
>>>partition with OpenBSD's pdisk rather than Debian's mac-fdisk
>>>doesn't help either, so I think the problem must occur when
yaboot
>>>actually installs itself onto the Apple_Bootstrap p

Re: UUID - autmatically entries?

[Ron Johnson]

On 05/21/2011 11:52 PM, Paul E Condon wrote:

On 20110522_035930, annathemerm...@hush.com wrote:



snip...


I recently performed a manual installation of Debian, bypassing
partman (in order to bypass a severe problem with partman and/or
yaboot that was breaking another OS), and thus configured the fstab
manually. I used devices, just like I always do when editing
fstabs. It works fine. I don't see any reason to change it? What do
UUIDs give me that /dev/hdx or /dev/sdx don't, aside from being
harder to read and a pain to setup?


more snip ...

As I understand it, there can be a problem if you add or remove
peripheral internal hardware, i.e. add or remove a single hard disk on

[snip]

much sympathy as you would like. At the very least, I urge you to
educate yourself on this issue.



Since like many others you find UUIDs a huge jumbled pile of human 
meaninglessness, then by all means create labels for all your fixed 
devices, and modify your /etc/fstab accordingly.  Many of us have done so.


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