Re: New to Linux

2011-04-13 Thread Steven
On 2011-04-12 18:41, rishabh animesh wrote:
> Hello People,
> 
> I am new to Linux and Debian. Whats the best way to start on things?
> Currently I'm a Computer Science student and have experience only with
> algorithms! Comfortable with C/C++
> but willing to learn more to help me get started with the OS mentioned
> above!
> 
> I need suggestions on projects I can participate in considering I am
> just a noob in this.
> 
> I have experiences with the Search Technology. I have also created a
> forum to promote programming among my peers where we organize monthly
> contests on this portal. www.code.vrglinug.org
> 
> 
> Regards
> Rishabh


The following books with get you started:

Debian GNU/Linux Bible. Debian release version 6.x only a short time ago
so the book will most like be for the older version.

The Debian System concepts and techniques.

Moving to Linux, Second Edition: Kiss the Blue Screen of Death Goodbye!
(2nd Edition)

Also look at the Debian doc web site.
http://www.debian.org/doc/books


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kreatywny marketing?

2011-04-13 Thread kreatywny
Dzień Dobry
Kreatywność w nowoczesnym Marketingu

Zwracam się z pytaniem, czy wyrażają Państwo zgodę na przesłanie informacji o 
szkoleniu w Gdańsku i Szczecinie
Jeżeli wyrażacie Państwo zgodę na przesłanie informacji wystarczy kliknąć TUTAJ 
lub wysłać zwrotnego e-maila ze słowem "ZGODA"
1. Jak stać się kreatywnym.
2. Umiejętne budowanie wizerunku firmy.
3. Przewaga nad konkurencją.
4. Dotarcie do nowych klientów.
5. Zwiększenie ilości nowych klientów.
Z poważaniem
Izabela Krawczyk
Kujawsko i Pomorskie Szkolenia Biznesowe
P.S.
Brak takiej odpowiedzi traktujemy jako odmowę
i informacja nie zostanie wysłana.


Re: Upgrading from Squeeze testing to Squeeze stable

2011-04-13 Thread Jude DaShiell
The security repository differs from the main repository that debian 
normally uses.  Do you find testing on any active repo line in 
/etc/apt/sources.list?  If so replace that with stable and you'll probably 
have better results.  You might do all of this very easily by saving the 
old machine's sources.list file to sources.list.orig then overwrite the 
old machine's sources.list file with the sources.list file on the new 
machine then try an update.On Mon, 11 Apr 2011, Andrew Wood wrote:

> Ive got a PC (this one) running Squeeze which was installed when sqeeeze was
> still 'testing'
> 
> Ive just run apt-get update & apt-get dist-upgrade which I thought would bring
> into line with the current squeeze stable yet there are still differences
> between this system and another new which Ive setup using a fresh download of
> the squeeze stable DVD .iso
> 
> For example the Grub boot splash is different, and Shotwell is present on the
> 'new' system but not on this one.
> 
> My sources.list file contains:
> 
> 
> deb http://security.debian.org/ squeeze/updates main contrib
> 
> deb-src http://security.debian.org/ squeeze/updates main contrib
> 
> Any ideas why?
> 
> Thanks
> 
> 
> 



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Re: Issue writing image to disk via dd

2011-04-13 Thread Mark Kane
On Wed, Apr 13, 2011, at 14:33:34 +1000, Scott Ferguson wrote:
> It's possible the script uses ddrescue instead of dd to create the
> image
> - though I still don't understand why that would make a difference.

I could be wrong, but from looking at the script a bit it looks like dd
is used to create the image like this:

dd of=tmp/disk.img if=/dev/zero count=30720 bs=1k

Then the image is configured as a virtual device where things
like bsdlabel/newfs are done to it, and then mounted for files to be
added that way.

> Which OS did you run the image creation script from?

FreeBSD 8.2.

> I'd expect a x86 bs to use 512 bytes, rather than 1M (I have a hazy
> memory about 512 and larger multiples being valid values...) - but
> partition type and file-system (5xbsd?) being BSD probably changes
> things.

I was using 1M as that is what the documentation for this process
suggests, though trying with 512 bytes or not specifying a bs doesn't
change things either way.

> Which would support your theory that it's due to a difference in dd
> between to two distros...
> 
> I'm assuming the message displayed by dd when the write is finished,
> is identical in both cases (Debian and ArchLinux)?

Yes, the dd output from both Debian and Arch is identical in terms of
records in/out, bytes written, etc.

> Sorry I can't provide an answer. Any chance you could post the script
> you used to create the image, or a link to it (I suspect it will
> answer the questions)??

Sure, the script link is below, though it is a bit more complex than a
single shell script. I realize what I'm trying to do here is probably
off topic for the Debian list, but because the same process is
having quite a different result on Debian vs another Linux distro I
hope it is OK to discuss it here.

http://mfsbsd.vx.sk/release/mfsbsd-1.1.tar.gz

> Curiouser and curiouser
>
> Cheers

Thanks for your interest and ideas!

-Mark


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Re: Suggestions for bayesian network software

2011-04-13 Thread Jörg-Volker Peetz
To search through the Debian packages descriptions with aptitude, command
something like

  aptitude search '~dbayes!~dspam'

(the description should contain "bayes" but not "spam").

An overview of Debian Science Statistics packages can be found here:
http://blends.alioth.debian.org/science/tasks/statistics
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changelog of debs not available online: Was there a substantial change?

2011-04-13 Thread Regid Ichira
  In the last 2 weeks, or so, I am not able to read the changelogs of debs
online.  An example from today:

Not Found
The requested URL 
/changelogs/pool/main/f/fakeroot/fakeroot_1.15.1-1/changelog 

was not found on this server.

  
Apache Server at packages.debian.org Port 80

Is it a known issue?  Am I doing something wrong?



  


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Re: changelog of debs not available online: Was there a substantial change?

2011-04-13 Thread kuLa
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On 13/04/11 11:30, Regid Ichira wrote:
>   In the last 2 weeks, or so, I am not able to read the changelogs of debs
> online.  An example from today:
> 
> Not Found
> The requested URL 
> /changelogs/pool/main/f/fakeroot/fakeroot_1.15.1-1/changelog 
> 
> was not found on this server.

this should point you in proper direction
check this
http://packages.debian.org/changelogs/pool/main/f/fakeroot/
no version 1.15.1-2 the latest one is 1.14.5-2

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Re: Issue writing image to disk via dd

2011-04-13 Thread Scott Ferguson
On 13/04/11 19:47, Mark Kane wrote:
> On Wed, Apr 13, 2011, at 14:33:34 +1000, Scott Ferguson wrote:

> I could be wrong, but from looking at the script a bit it looks like dd
> is used to create the image like this:
> 
> dd of=tmp/disk.img if=/dev/zero count=30720 bs=1k

After a quick squiz I agree

> 
> Then the image is configured as a virtual device where things
> like bsdlabel/newfs are done to it, and then mounted for files to be
> added that way.
> 
>> Which OS did you run the image creation script from?
> 
> FreeBSD 8.2.
> 

That was probably a red herring - sorry.


>>
>> I'm assuming the message displayed by dd when the write is finished,
>> is identical in both cases (Debian and ArchLinux)?
> 
> Yes, the dd output from both Debian and Arch is identical in terms of
> records in/out, bytes written, etc.
> 
>> Sorry I can't provide an answer. Any chance you could post the script
>> you used to create the image, or a link to it (I suspect it will
>> answer the questions)??
> 
> Sure, the script link is below, though it is a bit more complex than a
> single shell script. I realize what I'm trying to do here is probably
> off topic for the Debian list, but because the same process is
> having quite a different result on Debian vs another Linux distro I
> hope it is OK to discuss it here.


Well - it is about Debian... and the BSD bit *is* FreeBSD
(http://www.debian.org/ports/kfreebsd-gnu/) so I can't see a problem
there. :-)

If ArchLinux does a better job I'm just interested in finding out how to
match it with Debian - not convert ;-)

> 
> http://mfsbsd.vx.sk/release/mfsbsd-1.1.tar.gz

Cheers (neat scripting) - I'll have a proper look at that script in the
next few days.
Upon reflection I'd be willing to bet it's down to the difference
between versions of coreutils - there's a couple of minor changes up
until 8.9 (according to NEWS). While most of the changes I've read about
improve speed and remove some minor bugs, I haven't noticed any that
increase functionality. So it may well the current Debian version would
work - just might be fussier about exact commands. ArchLinux appears to
use the version currently in git, I haven't looked at it (8.10 changes).
I'll have to have another read of the upstream docs when I've got some
time (and my eyes are rested).


I use dd a lot, so still curious.

Cheers

---
Tuttle? His name's Buttle.
There must be some mistake.
Mistake? [Chuckles]
We don't make mistakes.


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Debugging suspend/resume?

2011-04-13 Thread Eric Persson
I upgraded to latest stable when it came out, and after that my
suspend/resume functionality just started working(very nice), but now it
stopped working again. And I cant find anything that I've changed that I
think could have affected it.

I've seen onscreen errors some times that it cant freeze komodo-bin and
git, but lately I only get a flashing cursor at the top left of the screen.

Any hints on where to start debugging it? I looked in
/var/log/pm-suspend.log but nothing of interest there.

Thanks in advance,
  Eric

Ps. the machine is a t500 running with the intel graphics adapter


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iceowl-extension 1.0b2 not compatible with icedove 3.0.11

2011-04-13 Thread Gilbert Sullivan
I have pure testing systems (no contrib or non-free, no closed source 
software / firmware).


This morning these upgrades (excerpted from the aptitude log)

[UPGRADE] calendar-google-provider 1.0~b1+dfsg2-2 -> 1.0~b2-4
[UPGRADE] calendar-timezones 1.0~b1+dfsg2-2 -> 1.0~b2-4
[UPGRADE] iceowl-extension 1.0~b1+dfsg2-2 -> 1.0~b2-4

were offered and installed.

Now the calendar is no longer available in icedove. And the Add-ons 
dialog from Icedove indicates that iceowl-extension 1.0b2 and provider 
for Google calendar 0.7 are not compatible with icedove 3.0.11.


No kidding?

:-)

I can has my calendar back???

Heh. Seriously, I didn't see this coming, and we depend pretty heavily 
on our calendars. Has anyone heard any news about this?


Thanks,
Gilbert


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Re: Issue writing image to disk via dd

2011-04-13 Thread Mark Kane
On Wed, Apr 13, 2011, at 21:19:43 +1000, Scott Ferguson wrote:
> Upon reflection I'd be willing to bet it's down to the difference
> between versions of coreutils - there's a couple of minor changes up
> until 8.9 (according to NEWS). While most of the changes I've read
> about improve speed and remove some minor bugs, I haven't noticed any
> that increase functionality. So it may well the current Debian
> version would work - just might be fussier about exact commands.
> ArchLinux appears to use the version currently in git, I haven't
> looked at it (8.10 changes). I'll have to have another read of the
> upstream docs when I've got some time (and my eyes are rested).
> 
> 
> I use dd a lot, so still curious.

That's a good thought and makes complete sense.

One thing to add is that the documentation I'm going off of was written
back in 2008 and specifically mentions doing this successfully from
Linux (though not sure which distro the author had used). I would think
that if it worked back then with whatever dd/coreutils version was
available that it should certainly work with today's coreutils. The dd
command itself also seems fairly simple and not taking advantage of
special features that might be newly available.

Just to see what would happen, I just grabbed an old CentOS release from
2008 (4.7 with coreutils 5.2.1). It worked correctly there just like
with Arch 2010.05.

Not sure what I'm missing here :).

Thanks,

-Mark


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Newfangled Dialtone Problems

2011-04-13 Thread David Baron
Finally got my modem (an old analog ISA modem--no PCI modem seems to work at 
all) going again by disabling both on-board serial ports. So I am back to 
where I was ... no dial tone.

The phone line is VOIP through an ADSL modem --> Audiocodes media server box. 
The Audiocodes gives an ethernet to the computer NIC or router and two analog 
phone lines which work with regular old fashioned telephones. I believe this 
once worked OK. However, the phone/ADSL infrastructure has been changed from 
wire to fiber-optics.

The telephones work fine. The xringd detects the phone line connected to the 
modem ringing. The modem does not detect a dial tone and none is heard on its 
speaker or earphones. Additionally, it seems to initialize "off the hook."

Minicom also shows the no dial tone error when trying to dial.

Any ideas?


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Re: New to Linux

2011-04-13 Thread Chen Wei
On Tue, Apr 12, 2011 at 01:41:58PM -0400, Chris Brennan wrote:
> GPL doesn't promise future freedom when someone else legally buy's the
> rights to the source and changes it. That being said, Final versions of a
> program released under GPL or another F/OSS licence allows that snapshot in
> time of the code to remain unchanged(9and thus still free for another
> developer group/project to pickup and continue)
> 
> These are very real fears being expressed all over Open Source communities,
> it has been of much debate on the FreeBSD mailing lists as well as Gentoo.
> 
I am confused. My impression is once a software GPLed, it will remain
GPL, all modifications/improvements/bug fixes etc. will be GPL as well.
Therefor regardless the owner, the GPLed source can not be un-GPLed.


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Re: New to Linux

2011-04-13 Thread Erwan David
On Wed, Apr 13, 2011 at 02:32:23PM CEST, Chen Wei  said:
> On Tue, Apr 12, 2011 at 01:41:58PM -0400, Chris Brennan wrote:
> > GPL doesn't promise future freedom when someone else legally buy's the
> > rights to the source and changes it. That being said, Final versions of a
> > program released under GPL or another F/OSS licence allows that snapshot in
> > time of the code to remain unchanged(9and thus still free for another
> > developer group/project to pickup and continue)
> > 
> > These are very real fears being expressed all over Open Source communities,
> > it has been of much debate on the FreeBSD mailing lists as well as Gentoo.
> > 
> I am confused. My impression is once a software GPLed, it will remain
> GPL, all modifications/improvements/bug fixes etc. will be GPL as well.
> Therefor regardless the owner, the GPLed source can not be un-GPLed.

The author (or the copyright owner, depending of the country) may
change the licence at any moment.
However, he cannot remove rights to people who obtained the software
under GPL.


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mua and mail service provider statistics

2011-04-13 Thread Chen Wei
hi list,

as a first time debian-user subscriber, I feel been buried alive by
incoming emails, though I heard there are some monster maillists, 
linux kernel maillist for example, are carrying even heavier traffic.
Wondering how to manage so many emails, out of curiosity, I did a 
statistics on choice of mail client and email service, based on 1494
messages received since subscribed to this list. Here is what I found.

TOP20
MUA | email provider
|-
Gmail  83 25.7% | gmail.com 110 34.1% | 
Mozilla75 23.2% | debian.org  8  2.5% | 
Mutt   54 16.7% | gmx.de  4  1.2% | 
Unknown20  6.2% | yahoo.com   3  0.9% | 
KMail  15  4.6% | web.de  3  0.9% | 
Gnus   11  3.4% | cox.net 3  0.9% | 
Evolution  11  3.4% | comcast.net 3  0.9% | 
Claws  11  3.4% | well-adjusted.de2  0.6% | 
Sylpheed6  1.9% | pobox.com   2  0.6% | 
Apple   3  0.9% | karall-edv.at   2  0.6% | 
Zimbra  2  0.6% | googlemail.com  2  0.6% | 
YahooMailRC 2  0.6% | gmx.net 2  0.6% | 
YahooMailClassic2  0.6% | free.fr 2  0.6% | 
Pan 2  0.6% | daniel-gr-andersson.com 2  0.6% | 
MessagingEngine.com 2  0.6% | arcor.de2  0.6% | 
Loom2  0.6% | zoho.com1  0.3% | 
Alpine  2  0.6% | yxit.co.uk  1  0.3% | 
tin 1  0.3% | yahoo.com.hk1  0.3% | 
slrn1  0.3% | yahoo.co.in 1  0.3% | 
netcat  1  0.3% | ya.ru   1  0.3% | 

Total Messages: 1494
Total Users: 323

The short story is, GMAIL prevail.



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#!/usr/bin/env python
# to count what kind of mail client folks are using in maillist
import os
import re

def guess_mua(received_from):
pattern = {'google.com':'Gmail', 'blackberry':'Blackberry',
   'yahoo.com':'Yahoo', 'nabble.com':'Nabble'}
mua = None
for key in pattern:
if key in received_from:
mua = pattern[key]
break
if not mua:
mua = 'Unknown'
return mua

mailfiles = os.walk('/home/wei/.Maildir/Debian-User')

maildir_files = []
for mail in mailfiles:
dirpath = mail[0]
for f in mail[2]:
maildir_files.append(os.path.join(dirpath, f))

mailstat = {}
for m in maildir_files:
content = open(m)
mua = None
sender = None
for line in content:
if line.startswith('From:'):
address = re.findall('[^<\s]+@[^>\s]+', line)
if address:
sender = address[0]
else:
sender = line.rstrip()[5:] # string after 'From: '

for agent_header in ('User-Agent:', 'X-Mailer:' , 'X-Newsreader:'):
if line.startswith(agent_header):
mua = line.rstrip().split(":")[1].split()[0].split('/')[0]
if 'Thunderbird' in mua:
mua = 'Mozilla'
break
if sender:
if mua:
break
if line.startswith('Received: from'):
received_from = line
if not mua:
mua = guess_mua(received_from)
mailstat[sender] = mua
content.close()


def sort_count(input_list):
'''given a list, return a 2D list sorted by item count'''
count = {}
for mua in input_list:
if count.has_key(mua):
count[mua] += 1
else:
count[mua] = 1
count_sort = []
for mua in count:
count_sort.append((count[mua], mua))
count_sort.sort(reverse=True)
return count_sort

domains = []
for sender in mailstat:
try:
domains.append(sender.split('@')[1])
except Exception:
pass

mua_statis = sort_count(mailstat.values())
mail_provider = sort_count(domains)

# pretty print
def line_gen(item, total):
line = '{0:<25} {1:>3} {2:>5} | '.format(item[1], str(item[0]),
  '{0:.1%}'.format(item[0] / float(total)))
return line


total_user = len(mailstat)
for x in range(20):
line = line_gen(mua_statis[x], total_user)
line += line_gen(mail_provider[x], total_user)
print line


def sum_counted_list(mylist):
count = 0
for item in mylist:
count += item[0]
return count

print '\nTotal Users: ' + str(total_user)



Re: mua and mail service provider statistics

2011-04-13 Thread Lisi
On Wednesday 13 April 2011 14:05:43 Chen Wei wrote:
> out of curiosity, I did a
> statistics on choice of mail client and email service, based on 1494
> messages received since subscribed to this list. Here is what I found.
>
> TOP20
> MUA | email provider
> |-
> Gmail  83 25.7% | gmail.com 110 34.1% |
> Mozilla75 23.2% | debian.org  8  2.5% |
> Mutt   54 16.7% | gmx.de  4  1.2% |
> Unknown20  6.2% | yahoo.com   3  0.9% |
> KMail  15  4.6% | web.de  3  0.9% |
[snip]
> Total Messages: 1494
> Total Users: 323
>
> The short story is, GMAIL prevail.

I hope that I am down against KMail, and not GMail. ;-)

Lisi


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Re: iceowl-extension 1.0b2 not compatible with icedove 3.0.11

2011-04-13 Thread Johan Grönqvist

2011-04-13 13:48, Gilbert Sullivan skrev:

This morning these upgrades (excerpted from the aptitude log)

[UPGRADE] iceowl-extension 1.0~b1+dfsg2-2 -> 1.0~b2-4

I can has my calendar back???


AIUI, iceowl 1.0b1 works with icedove 3.0 and iceowl 1.0b2 works with 
icedove 3.1. I solved the same problem today by upgrading icedove to the 
3.1 version in unstable. I assume you could also solve it by downgrading 
iceowl to the 1.0b1 version from snapshot.debian.org.


/ johan


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Re: mua and mail service provider statistics

2011-04-13 Thread Slicky Johnson
On Wed, 13 Apr 2011 21:05:43 +0800
Chen Wei  wrote:

> hi list,
> 
> as a first time debian-user subscriber, I feel been buried alive by
> incoming emails, though I heard there are some monster maillists, 
> linux kernel maillist for example, are carrying even heavier traffic.
> Wondering how to manage so many emails, out of curiosity, I did a 
> statistics on choice of mail client and email service, based on 1494
> messages received since subscribed to this list. Here is what I found.
> 

I simply mark threads ignored and I don't seen anymore mails regarding
that topic. I currently use claws-mail, and I see you're using mutt.
If I remember correctly you should easily be able to mark a thread as
ignored. That will greatly reduce the number of mails, you'll only see
new threads.




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Re: iceowl-extension 1.0b2 not compatible with icedove 3.0.11

2011-04-13 Thread Gilbert Sullivan

On 04/13/2011 09:34 AM, Johan Grönqvist wrote:

2011-04-13 13:48, Gilbert Sullivan skrev:

This morning these upgrades (excerpted from the aptitude log)

[UPGRADE] iceowl-extension 1.0~b1+dfsg2-2 -> 1.0~b2-4

I can has my calendar back???


AIUI, iceowl 1.0b1 works with icedove 3.0 and iceowl 1.0b2 works with
icedove 3.1. I solved the same problem today by upgrading icedove to the
3.1 version in unstable. I assume you could also solve it by downgrading
iceowl to the 1.0b1 version from snapshot.debian.org.

/ johan




Thanks. Both of those look like practical approaches.

I've been rolling along for a couple of years in testing just taking the 
upgrades as they come. So far, I've come across of few of these 
situations where upgrades for one package don't coincide properly with 
upgrades for another package, and a temporary loss of some functionality 
or another occurs as a result.


So far, just out of stubbornness and the desire to see how well and how 
quickly the package maintainers will work out the problems, I've 
resisted the temptation to "stray" away from simply using the testing 
repositories.


I suppose temporarily enabling the unstable repository and upgrading 
icedove is likely to be the course that deviates least from my 
preferences. I'll probably hold out a couple of days. If, by that time, 
icedove hasn't been upgraded in testing, I'll probably upgrade to 3.1.


At least this time around isn't as problematic as some of the gotchas 
I've seen this year with kernel mode setting and Xorg changes on the 
systems that have Nvidia and Intel graphics subsystems. But those could 
be temporarily worked around with configuration changes and without 
resorting to outside repositories.


Thank you again for your suggestions.

Best regards,
Gilbert


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Re: Very slow network performance with KVM using virtio and tap.

2011-04-13 Thread Robert Goley


  
  
Thanks for the links.  I followed the first one when I set these up
initially.  I never got virt-install to work right.  I create the
xml file and the disk image manually.  I then just use virsh for
define, start and stop.  My problem is the network performance is
the same as a 10MB network not 100MB or 1000MB like you would
expect.  I switched from  using br0 directly to trying to use the
tap0 interface.  From my understanding, this allows it to get packet
data at ISO level 2 which should be faster and have less overhead. 
I noticed exactly no performance difference either way though.  That
is what bothers me.  I am not sure what the bottleneck is.  I had a
similar issue with VMWare in the past, it had the same speed
limitations but ONLY when communicating with the host, not when
communicating with other machines on the network.  For example,
VMWare would be 10MB connections to the host but 100MB connections
to any other physical machine on the network. 





On 04/12/2011 08:21 PM, Pablo Sánchez wrote:

  
  Robert, following
  http://www.howtoforge.com/virtualization-with-kvm-on-a-debian-squeeze-server
  i reach to the conclusion that using kvm network config is
  "troublesome".
  I ended using "--network=bridge:br0 " on startup the vm, with qemu
  .
  
  Anyway, from another squeeze (my work computer), installed Virtual
  machine manager and never
  looked back. virsh never worked right for me .
  
  Regards. 
  
  Pablo Sánchez
  
  PS:
  http://www.techotopia.com/index.php/Creating_Xen_and_KVM_RHEL_5_Virtual_Machines_from_the_Command-line_%28virt-install_and_virsh%29
  was also helpful
  
  
  

I have tried a KVM setup 2 different ways.  The first was using
a straight bridge without using tap at all.  The WinXP VM is
using the latest known version of the virtio drivers.  The
bridge is on a gigabit nic.  

The second setup was using a bridge containing a tap0 interface
and using the tap0 interface in the KVM config.  


I have tested network speeds from the host with other machines
in the network using iperf.  Bridge interface to other machine
on the network is fast with with speeds you would expect from
using 1G nics.  Using the same iperf tests, I get about 1/100 of
the speed when using the bridge or tap0 interfaces with the
virtio nic.  WinXP shows the virtio nic as being 1 Gbps device.


I am including some of my config below.  Anyone have suggestions
on how to get greater than 1MBs transfer rates when using KVM in
a bridged setup?



interfaces
iface br0 inet static
    address 192.168.0.155
    network 192.168.0.0
    netmask 255.255.255.0
    broadcast 192.168.0.255
#    gateway 192.168.0.1
    bridge_ports eth3 tap0
    bridge_stp off
    bridge_maxwait 0
    bridge_fd 0
    pre-up /usr/sbin/tunctl -u libvirt-qemu -t tap0
    pre-up ifconfig tap0 up
    post-down ifconfig tap0
interfaces


###libvirt xml file###

  WINXPVM
  f1340442-6088-11e0-a43a-001b214871e8
  524288
  524288
  1
  
    hvm
    
  
  
    
    
    
  
  
  destroy
  restart
  restart
  
    /usr/bin/kvm
    
  
  
  
  
    
    
  
  
  
  
  
    
    
  
    
    
  
  
  
  
    
    
  
    
    
  
    
    
    
    
    
  
  
    
    
  
    
  


###libvirt xml file###



     
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Re: mua and mail service provider statistics

2011-04-13 Thread Kumar Appaiah
Dear Chen,

On Wed, Apr 13, 2011 at 09:05:43PM +0800, Chen Wei wrote:
> as a first time debian-user subscriber, I feel been buried alive by
> incoming emails, though I heard there are some monster maillists, 
> linux kernel maillist for example, are carrying even heavier traffic.
> Wondering how to manage so many emails, out of curiosity, I did a 
> statistics on choice of mail client and email service, based on 1494
> messages received since subscribed to this list. Here is what I found.

Thanks for doing this.

> The short story is, GMAIL prevail.

The trouble with GMail is that it is suboptimal when it comes to a
couple of things when compared to Mutt, _for me_:

- It's threading is linear, which is difficult to follow for long and
  complex evolving threads.
- I prefer console goodness over a web based approach.
- GMail encourages top posting.

But I see the merit in using GMail; it's simple, easy and powerful to
use. Just that it's not for me.

Kumar
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Missing unixodbc-dev

2011-04-13 Thread CDR
I am new to Debian.

When I type "apt-get install unixodbc-dev"

I get back:

"Reading package lists... Done

Building dependency tree

Reading state information... Done

Package unixodbc-dev is not available, but is referred to by another

package.

This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or

is only available from another source

E: Package 'unixodbc-dev' has no installation candidate"

Question, maybe I need to add some repositories?

lso, I did find the package here:

http://packages.debian.org/squeeze/amd64/unixodbc-dev/download

But if it is there, why apt-get does not think so? I actually downloaded

it manually, but it fails on dependencies.
Federico


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Re: Missing unixodbc-dev

2011-04-13 Thread Atıf CEYLAN
  

What is your debian version? 

if it is squeeze or lenny, you can
try run the "apt-get update" command. After this try again.  

On Wed,
13 Apr 2011 10:23:10 -0400, CDR wrote: 

> I am new to Debian.
> 
> When
I type "apt-get install unixodbc-dev"
> 
> I get back:
> 
> "Reading
package lists... Done
> 
> Building dependency tree
> 
> Reading state
information... Done
> 
> Package unixodbc-dev is not available, but is
referred to by another
> 
> package.
> 
> This may mean that the package
is missing, has been obsoleted, or
> 
> is only available from another
source
> 
> E: Package 'unixodbc-dev' has no installation candidate"
>

> Question, maybe I need to add some repositories?
> 
> lso, I did find
the package here:
> 
>
http://packages.debian.org/squeeze/amd64/unixodbc-dev/download [1]
> 
>
But if it is there, why apt-get does not think so? I actually
downloaded
> 
> it manually, but it fails on dependencies.
>
Federico

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Re: Missing unixodbc-dev

2011-04-13 Thread Lisi
> On Wed, 13 Apr 2011 10:23:10 -0400, CDR wrote:
> > I am new to Debian.
> > When
> I type "apt-get install unixodbc-dev"
> > I get back:
[snip]
> > E: Package 'unixodbc-dev' has no installation candidate"
> > Question, maybe I need to add some repositories?

Possibly.  If after updating, you still cannot install the package, send us 
your sources.list.

> http://packages.debian.org/squeeze/amd64/unixodbc-dev/download [1

Good - so it exists all right!

> But if it is there, why apt-get does not think so? 

Because it doesn't show up in the database on your computer.  update 
("aptitude update" - so probably "apt-get update", don't type the quotation 
marks) and try again, and if it still isn't OK, then look at repositories.

> I actually 
> downloaded
> > it manually, but it fails on dependencies.

An alternative strategy would be to install the dependencies - but finding out 
why apt can't handle it is likely to be easier!

Lisi


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Re: mua and mail service provider statistics

2011-04-13 Thread Jochen Schulz
Slicky Johnson:
> 
> I simply mark threads ignored and I don't seen anymore mails regarding
> that topic. I currently use claws-mail, and I see you're using mutt.
> If I remember correctly you should easily be able to mark a thread as
> ignored.

Unfortunately, this isn't the case. You can mark (sub-)threads as read,
but after that mutt will happily present new mails in the same thread to
you.

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Re: Suggestions for bayesian network software

2011-04-13 Thread Wolodja Wentland
On Mon, Apr 11, 2011 at 13:31 +0300, George wrote:
> I'm looking for suggestions on good bayesian network software that
> runs on debian. A search on the standard repos was fruitless. I would
> prefer free software, but I'm also willing to try any good solution,
> even if it is through Wine.

It would help tremendously if you could tell us what you are actually trying
to do. I still don't know if what you are looking for a library or a
application and if you need one that models generic bayesian networks or 
sequences (think
HMM, CRF, ...). If you look for a library you might want to tell us which
programming language(s) you are planning to use.
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Re: firefox & gimp buttons missing - gtk issue?

2011-04-13 Thread i'll teach you to turn away.
Sven Joachim  wrote:
SJ> On 2011-04-11 20:06 +0200, Camaleón wrote:
>> On Sun, 10 Apr 2011 22:12:40 +, i'll teach you to turn away. wrote:
>>> hi guys. i'm having some trouble with what appears to be a gtk issue
>>> with firefox & gimp. in short, buttons are missing. the firefox one is
>> Missing icons
>> https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=629878
>> Missing icons with gtk+-2.22
>> https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=621962
SJ> Almost surely yes.  This has also been reported in the Debian BTS
SJ> already: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=597694.
SJ> 
SJ> See the end of the bug log for a workaround that yours truly has
SJ> chosen.

yes, i found those bug reports... but there's no mention of gimp 
being affected. i'm REALLY loathe to install more gnome stuff if it's 
not going to solve all of the issues.

lish
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X crashes since last upgrade

2011-04-13 Thread S Scharf
Since installing the large upgrade earlier this week (which included the new
OS and xserver packages)
my x server crashes (and makes me log in again) after some undetermined
operation occurrs.
(I can cause this by starting VLC or emacs)

I am running Testing, with the nvidia driver installed, and two screens with
xinerama ( a 30" and a 90 degree rotated 20")

Any one know what to look for to diagnose this issue? I don't think I even
know enough to post a bug report.

Stuart


Re: Wheezy upgrade trashes display

2011-04-13 Thread Eike Lantzsch
Problems with video rendering after this upgrade here too.

On Tuesday 12 April 2011 20:30:09 Steve Kleene wrote:
> Two weeks ago I successfully installed Wheezy (testing).  Yesterday I did
> the latest upgrades, and now my X-Windows display is unreadable.  Here are
> the details:
> 
> 1. I called "apt-get upgrade", which listed 50 packages it was holding
> back. Most were xorg-related.  I did not proceed with that upgrade but
> called "apt-get install" to install the 50 packages, and then "apt-get
> autoremove" as suggested.  I then proceeded again with "apt-get upgrade",
> which installed many more packages, including a kernel upgrade from
> 2.6.32-5-686 to 2.6.38-2-686.  I got an xorg warning for people running
> the ati module, which I was not.  Another error warned about e100, which I
> am running.
So what module are you running? Is it i810?

[snip No 2]

> 3. I then call startx, which tries to use fvwm to put up windows.  Instead
> I get something resembling a display grossly out of sync.  The same
> happens if I start gdm3 (gnome).  However, there is a perfectly nice arrow
> icon for the mouse, and it responds to the mouse.  The worst thing is that
> neither CTRL-ALT-F1 nor CTRL-ALT-Backscape lets me drop back to the
> console.  I have to do a hardware reset and reboot (or do "sleep 30;
> reboot" in another console before I try startx).
Here with KDE 4.4.5 it isn't as bad as that but there are disturbing artifacts 
of other screen portions in the window titlebars and some characters are 
randomly garbled, even in a text in konsole using e.g. slrn.
> 
[snip]
> Grub still
> offers me the chance to boot into 2.6.32, but that crashes with a screen
> full of kernel errors.
So it does here. Well it hangs on start-up. That seems to be due to the kernel 
transition.
Unfortunately this prevents one from checking if the kernel is the problem or 
the video driver. Would I have known beforehand I would  have installed the 
kernel first - checked it and then installed the new Xorg-stuff. Duh!

> 
> I will report some lines seen on booting the new kernel, even though they
> may not underlie the display problem.  Here they are:
> 
> Starting rpcbind daemon...rpcbind: Cannot open
> '/var/run/rpcbind/rpcbind.xdr' file for reading, errno 2 (No such file or
> directory)
> CPUFreq Utilities: Setting ondemand CPUFreq governor...disabled, governor
> not available...done.
> saned disabled: edit /etc/default/saned
> SpamAssassin Mail Filter Daemon: disabled, see /etc/default/spamassassin
This does not relate to the video problem, I'm sure.

> Finally, I will mention that I did all the same upgrades yesterday on
> another Wheezy system (different hardware) with no problem.
Another video driver? Which one?

> 
> I would welcome any suggestions for fixing this.  I can post xorg.conf and
> Xorg.0.log if necessary, although that doesn't seem to be the problem.
> Thanks.

Sorry, I can't provide a solution.
Just wondering too.

Cheers,
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Re: problem with apt-get install AND apt-get upgrade

2011-04-13 Thread Christian Jakob
>Had you temporarily used other repositories around that time?

No, /etc/apt/sources.list~ is empty.

>The dependencies for scons are python... could it be that you have some
>non-standard python on your system??
>Occasionally I've had install problems because I'd forgotten that I'd
>temporarily make python2.4 the system default... but surely that would
>not be your problem(?)

root@debian # dpkg -l | grep python
ii gimp-python 2.4.7-1 Python support and plugins for GIMP
rc libboost-python1.33.1 1.33.1-10 Boost.Python Library
ii libboost-python1.34.1 1.34.1-14 Boost.Python Library
ii python 2.5.2-3 An interactive high-level object-oriented la
ii python-apt 0.7.7.1+nmu1 Python interface to libapt-pkg
ii python-cairo 1.4.12-1.2 Python bindings for the Cairo vector graphic
ii python-central 0.6.8 register and build utility for Python packag
ii python-dbus 0.82.4-2 simple interprocess messaging system (Python
ii python-eggtrayicon 2.19.1-3.1 Python module to display icons in the system
ii python-elementtree 1.2.6-12 Light-weight toolkit for XML processing
ii python-foomatic 0.7.9.1 Python interface to the Foomatic printer dat
ii python-gdata 1.1.1-1 Google Data Python client library
ii python-glade2 2.12.1-6 GTK+ bindings: Glade support
ii python-gmenu 2.22.2-4 an implementation of the freedesktop menu sp
ii python-gnome2 2.22.0-1 Python bindings for the GNOME desktop enviro
ii python-gnome2-desktop 2.22.0-2 Python bindings for the GNOME desktop enviro
ii python-gnupginterface 0.3.2-9 Python interface to GnuPG (GPG)
ii python-gobject 2.14.2-2 Python bindings for the GObject library
ii python-gtk2 2.12.1-6 Python bindings for the GTK+ widget set
ii python-gtkhtml2 2.19.1-3.1 Python bindings for the GtkHTML 2 library
ii python-gtkmozembed 2.19.1-3.1 Python bindings for the GtkMozEmbed Gecko li
ii python-gtksourceview2 2.2.0-1+b1 Python bindings for the GtkSourceView widget
ii python-imaging 1.1.6-3 Python Imaging Library
ii python-imaging-tk 1.1.6-3 Python Imaging Library - ImageTk Module
ii python-ipy 1:0.62-1 Python module for handling IPv4 and IPv6 add
ii python-libxml2 2.6.32.dfsg-5+lenny3 Python bindings for the GNOME XML library
ii python-minimal 2.5.2-3 A minimal subset of the Python language (def
ii python-newt 0.52.2-11.3+lenny1 A NEWT module for Python
ii python-notify 0.1.1-2+b1 Python bindings for libnotify
ii python-numeric 24.2-9 Numerical (matrix-oriented) Mathematics for
ii python-pyorbit 2.14.3-2 A Python language binding for the ORBit2 COR
ii python-selinux 2.0.65-5 Python bindings to SELinux shared libraries
ii python-semanage 2.0.25-3 Python bindings for SELinux policy manipula
ii python-sepolgen 1.0.11-5 A Python module used in SELinux policy gener
ii python-software-properties 0.60.debian-1.1 manage the repositories that you 
install sof
ii python-support 0.8.4lenny2 automated rebuilding support for Python modu
ii python-tk 2.5.2-1 Tkinter - Writing Tk applications with Pytho
rc python-twisted-core 8.1.0-4 Event-based framework for internet applicati
ii python-vte 1:0.16.14-4 Python bindings for the VTE widget set
rc python2.4 2.4.6-1 An interactive high-level object-oriented la
rc python2.4-minimal 2.4.6-1 A minimal subset of the Python language (ver
ii python2.5 2.5.2-15+lenny1 An interactive high-level object-oriented la
ii python2.5-minimal 2.5.2-15+lenny1 A minimal subset of the Python language 
(ver

>work:/home/scott# dpkg -l |grep python2.5
>ii python2.5 2.5.2-15+lenny1
> An interactive high-level object-oriented language (version 2.
>ii python2.5-minimal 2.5.2-15+lenny1
> A minimal subset of the Python language (version 2.5)
>
>scott@work:~$ python -V
>Python 2.5.2

this is the same as mine...

root@debian # python -V
Python 2.5.2

>Have you manually installed scons?
>Did it throw up any errors?

No I did not try to install scons before.

>I strongly suspect the problems is software based - when I've had
>hardware based problems with apt there have been plenty of error messages...

I confirm your opinion, it should be a software based problem.
Let's go back to your first e-mail:

>The only things I can think of are:-
>;temporary problem with the repository (it certainly works at the time
>of writing this)
>;your apt database is corrupted
>;weird dependency problem/conflicts

I think the problem is either corrupted database or dependency problems of 
apt-get.
By the way:

root@debian # apt-get moo
  (__)
  (oo)
  /--\/
  / | ||
 * /\---/\
  ~~ ~~
"Have you mooed today?"...

>If you have the minimal python requirements then, short of suggestions
>from others, I'd propose that the cause may be a hardware failure.
>
...
>
>It's Theodore Ts’o's handler for file system checks - usually runs
>automagically every x number of boots. It'll show in dmesg if there's
>been a problem.

I searched in /var/log/dmesg for "error", "failure" and "abort" - found 
nothing...

>A hard drive monitoring system:-
>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/S.M.A.R.T.
>
>If your hard drive supports it, and it's e

Re: Wheezy upgrade trashes display

2011-04-13 Thread Steve Kleene
On Wed, 13 Apr 2011 00:30:09 + (UTC), I wrote:

> Two weeks ago I successfully installed Wheezy (testing).  Yesterday I did
> the latest upgrades, and now my X-Windows display is unreadable. ...

On Wed, 13 Apr 2011 13:00:08 -0400, Eike Lantzsch  replied:

> So what module are you running? Is it i810?

The machine that was successfully upgraded is running i915, and I believe the
one at home is also (although I'm not there now).  Both have Intel video
chips.  The box that upgraded OK was built this year and has an i5 processor
with the onboard IGDNG/D (Clarkdale) chipset.  The one that's borked was
built in 2006 and has a Pentium 4 with onboard 946GZ graphics.


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Re: X crashes since last upgrade

2011-04-13 Thread Nuno Magalhães
Hi

On Wed, Apr 13, 2011 at 17:40, S Scharf  wrote:
> I am running Testing, with the nvidia driver installed, and two screens with
> xinerama ( a 30" and a 90 degree rotated 20")

First try the nv driver. And check /var/logs/X.0.log or something, if
it's an X error it should be there.

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Re: Debian on a Macbook (Leopard): package xserver-xorg-video-intel leads to blank screen on reboot

2011-04-13 Thread bahuroopi
Hello Jerome,

Am putting this back on the list.

> Hello List,
>
> you may want to specify further your Mac:
> what is the output of the following command ?
>
> /usr/sbin/dmidecode -s system-product-name

MacBook4,1

Thanks,
arvind



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Re: X crashes since last upgrade

2011-04-13 Thread Steve Kleene
On 2011-04-13 16:40:38 GMT, S Scharf wrote:

> Since installing the large upgrade earlier this week (which included the
> new OS and xserver packages) my x server crashes ... I am running Testing ...
> Any one know what to look for to diagnose this issue?

Unfortunately I do not, but you are not alone.  I just started a similar
thread ("Wheezy upgrade trashes display") yesterday.  You might keep an eye
on that thread in case a solution is found.  Meanwhile I guess we'll both be
working from text consoles.


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Re: X crashes since last upgrade

2011-04-13 Thread ss11223
On Apr 13, 1:50 pm, Nuno Magalhães  wrote:
> Hi
>
> On Wed, Apr 13, 2011 at 17:40, S Scharf  wrote:
> > I am running Testing, with the nvidia driver installed, and two screens with
> > xinerama ( a 30" and a 90 degree rotated 20")
>
> First try the nv driver. And check /var/logs/X.0.log or something, if
> it's an X error it should be there.
>
> HTH
>

I don't think there is a nv driver any more.

In my X.0.log.old I found this:
-
[177518.084] (**) Option "xkb_rules" "evdev"
[177518.084] (**) Option "xkb_model" "pc105"
[177518.084] (**) Option "xkb_layout" "us"
[177925.793]
Backtrace:
[177925.793] 0: /usr/bin/X (xorg_backtrace+0x28) [0x4aacc8]
[177925.793] 1: /usr/bin/X (0x40+0x61e59) [0x461e59]
[177925.793] 2: /lib/libpthread.so.0 (0x7fc541772000+0xef60)
[0x7fc541780f60]
[177925.793] 3: /usr/bin/X (doListFontsWithInfo+0x1d3) [0x427493]
[177925.793] 4: /usr/bin/X (ProcessWorkQueue+0x21) [0x42ad21]
[177925.793] 5: /usr/bin/X (WaitForSomething+0x82) [0x45ef32]
[177925.793] 6: /usr/bin/X (0x40+0x48602) [0x448602]
[177925.793] 7: /usr/bin/X (0x40+0x257ab) [0x4257ab]
[177925.793] 8: /lib/libc.so.6 (__libc_start_main+0xfd)
[0x7fc5404d5c4d]
[177925.793] 9: /usr/bin/X (0x40+0x25339) [0x425339]
[177925.793] Segmentation fault at address 0x86c7ff90
[177925.793]
Fatal server error:
[177925.793] Caught signal 11 (Segmentation fault). Server aborting
[177925.793]
[177925.793]
Please consult the The X.Org Foundation support
 at http://wiki.x.org
 for help.
[177925.793] Please also check the log file at "/var/log/Xorg.0.log"
for additional information.
[177925.793]
[177925.844] (II) Power Button: Close
[177925.844] (II) UnloadModule: "evdev"
[177925.896] (II) Power Button: Close
[177925.896] (II) UnloadModule: "evdev"
[177925.920] (II) Dell Dell Smart Card Reader Keyboard: Close
[177925.920] (II) UnloadModule: "evdev"
[177925.922] (II) Logitech USB Receiver: Close
[177925.922] (II) UnloadModule: "evdev"
[177925.922] (II) Dell WMI hotkeys: Close
[177925.922] (II) UnloadModule: "evdev"


-

The segfault looks like the thing

Stuart


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Re: X crashes since last upgrade

2011-04-13 Thread S Scharf
2011/4/13 Nuno Magalhães 

> Hi
>
> On Wed, Apr 13, 2011 at 17:40, S Scharf  wrote:
> > I am running Testing, with the nvidia driver installed, and two screens
> with
> > xinerama ( a 30" and a 90 degree rotated 20")
>
> First try the nv driver. And check /var/logs/X.0.log or something, if
> it's an X error it should be there.
>
> HTH
>
>

I don't think there is a nv driver any more.

My log file shows:

[177518.084] (**) Option "xkb_rules" "evdev"
[177518.084] (**) Option "xkb_model" "pc105"
[177518.084] (**) Option "xkb_layout" "us"
[177925.793]
Backtrace:
[177925.793] 0: /usr/bin/X (xorg_backtrace+0x28) [0x4aacc8]
[177925.793] 1: /usr/bin/X (0x40+0x61e59) [0x461e59]
[177925.793] 2: /lib/libpthread.so.0 (0x7fc541772000+0xef60)
[0x7fc541780f60]
[177925.793] 3: /usr/bin/X (doListFontsWithInfo+0x1d3) [0x427493]
[177925.793] 4: /usr/bin/X (ProcessWorkQueue+0x21) [0x42ad21]
[177925.793] 5: /usr/bin/X (WaitForSomething+0x82) [0x45ef32]
[177925.793] 6: /usr/bin/X (0x40+0x48602) [0x448602]
[177925.793] 7: /usr/bin/X (0x40+0x257ab) [0x4257ab]
[177925.793] 8: /lib/libc.so.6 (__libc_start_main+0xfd) [0x7fc5404d5c4d]
[177925.793] 9: /usr/bin/X (0x40+0x25339) [0x425339]
[177925.793] Segmentation fault at address 0x86c7ff90
[177925.793]
Fatal server error:
[177925.793] Caught signal 11 (Segmentation fault). Server aborting
[177925.793]
[177925.793]
Please consult the The X.Org Foundation support
 at http://wiki.x.org
 for help.
[177925.793] Please also check the log file at "/var/log/Xorg.0.log" for
additional information.
[177925.793]
[177925.844] (II) Power Button: Close
[177925.844] (II) UnloadModule: "evdev"
[177925.896] (II) Power Button: Close
[177925.896] (II) UnloadModule: "evdev"
[177925.920] (II) Dell Dell Smart Card Reader Keyboard: Close
[177925.920] (II) UnloadModule: "evdev"
[177925.922] (II) Logitech USB Receiver: Close
[177925.922] (II) UnloadModule: "evdev"
[177925.922] (II) Dell WMI hotkeys: Close
[177925.922] (II) UnloadModule: "evdev"


The seg fault looks like the issue.

Stuart


Re: Wheezy upgrade trashes display

2011-04-13 Thread Bob Weber


On 04/12/2011 08:30 PM, Steve Kleene wrote:

Two weeks ago I successfully installed Wheezy (testing).  Yesterday I did the
latest upgrades, and now my X-Windows display is unreadable.  Here are the
details:

1. I called "apt-get upgrade", which listed 50 packages it was holding back.
Most were xorg-related.  I did not proceed with that upgrade but called
"apt-get install" to install the 50 packages, and then "apt-get
autoremove" as suggested.  I then proceeded again with "apt-get upgrade",
which installed many more packages, including a kernel upgrade from
2.6.32-5-686 to 2.6.38-2-686.  I got an xorg warning for people running
the ati module, which I was not.  Another error warned about e100, which I
am running.
2. Now I can I reboot into a text console, which is how I have things set up.
At that point everything seems fine; the keyboard and sound both work.  I
have an internet connection, so I guess e100 is not a problem.
3. I then call startx, which tries to use fvwm to put up windows.  Instead I
get something resembling a display grossly out of sync.  The same happens
if I start gdm3 (gnome).  However, there is a perfectly nice arrow icon
for the mouse, and it responds to the mouse.  The worst thing is that
neither CTRL-ALT-F1 nor CTRL-ALT-Backscape lets me drop back to the
console.  I have to do a hardware reset and reboot (or do "sleep 30;
reboot" in another console before I try startx).

I just did a full backup of my healthy Wheezy disk this weekend.  To my
surprise, Xorg.0.log now is identical to the one from the good system, except
for a date.  It does seem that something more than X is screwed up, since the
keyboard won't let me drop out of X.  Since the mouse works (as well as
"sleep; reboot"), the system hasn't totally crashed.  Grub still offers me
the chance to boot into 2.6.32, but that crashes with a screen full of kernel
errors.

I will report some lines seen on booting the new kernel, even though they may
not underlie the display problem.  Here they are:

Starting rpcbind daemon...rpcbind: Cannot open '/var/run/rpcbind/rpcbind.xdr'
   file for reading, errno 2 (No such file or directory)
CPUFreq Utilities: Setting ondemand CPUFreq governor...disabled, governor not
   available...done.
saned disabled: edit /etc/default/saned
SpamAssassin Mail Filter Daemon: disabled, see /etc/default/spamassassin

Finally, I will mention that I did all the same upgrades yesterday on another
Wheezy system (different hardware) with no problem.

I would welcome any suggestions for fixing this.  I can post xorg.conf and
Xorg.0.log if necessary, although that doesn't seem to be the problem.
Thanks.




I'm in the same boat.  Upgraded a testing system with ATI Technologies Inc 
Radeon HD 3200 Graphics hardware and 2.6.32.kernel.  X would crash a few seconds 
after running startx to get into KDE.  Xorg.0.log showed X seg faulting.  I 
tried the generic vesa driver in xorg.conf but still had the problem.  Just 
running X seemed to work without a crash but of course there was no KDE just a X 
screen and no seg fault in the log file.  So I looked for something else.


I found that if I turned off compositing in ~/.kde/share/config/kwinrc then KDE 
would start.  I was using OpenGL for compositing so I tried XRender compositing 
and that works ... but slower than the OpenGL when that worked.  So I suspect 
thet OpenGL has something to do with the problem also.  KDE system settings 
won't even allow OpenGL to be selected now.


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Re: X crashes since last upgrade

2011-04-13 Thread Marcelo Laia
I have similar problem here!

I use testing with evdev, nvidia proprietary drivers, and multseat.

My system start, gdm are started too, but I couldn't log in because my
mouse and my kbd isn't work. I need to login by ssh and halt the
system.

I have another problem too: my system only start after a lots of
trying. The system crash after grub start and before udev populate the
/dev



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Squeeze Gateway After Several Hours LAN Packets Drop

2011-04-13 Thread Alishams Hassam
Hi, I have squeeze running as a gateway doing masquerading between eth0 and
eth1 using shorewall and dnsmasq. For some reason, after around 13-17 hours,
eth1 just starts dropping packets and machines behind the gateway take 5-10
seconds to ping other machines (both on the internet and on the LAN) and the
gateway itself. Then, after a bit more time, they can't ping anything or
even resolve dns. The gateway can ping anything on the net perfectly fine
though. If I bring eth1 down and up again, it all works fine. I know I can
just put ifdown eth1 && ifup eth1 in cron.hourly, but any idea what's
causing this and how to fix?


Re: X crashes since last upgrade

2011-04-13 Thread Cláudio E. Elicker
On Wed, 13 Apr 2011 16:28:02 -0300
Marcelo Laia  wrote:

> I have another problem too: my system only start after a lots of
> trying. The system crash after grub start and before udev populate the
> /dev
> 

Same problem here. After upgrading udev to version 167-1, every time
there is a "kernel panic" somewhere in the boot process.

Solved by booting from a live cd, chrooting in the file system, and
reinstaling the previous version (166-1) of udev and libudev0 from
snapshot.debian.org


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Re: Re: "Debian Changelog" on packages.debian.org is down

2011-04-13 Thread Regid Ichira
On 13/04/11 11:57, kuLa wrote:> On 13/04/11 11:30, Regid Ichira wrote: > >   In 
the last 2 weeks, or so, I am not able to read the changelogs of debs > > 
online.  An example from today: > >  > > Not Found > > The requested 
URL  
> > /changelogs/pool/main/f/fakeroot/fakeroot_1.15.1-1/changelog  > >  > > 
was not found on this server. >  > this should point you in proper direction > 
check this > http://packages.debian.org/changelogs/pool/main/f/fakeroot/ > no 
version 1.15.1-2 the latest one is 1.14.5-2

1.15.1-2 is from testing (wheezy).
For the changelog issue, I saw it was discussed in
http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2011/04/msg00501.html



  


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File a Bug Against GlobalMenu or Guayadeque?

2011-04-13 Thread Freeman
In Guayadeque 0.2.9, the file menu is not present when gnome globalmenu
0.7.9 packages are installed.

How can I decide or diagnose which package has the bug?

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Re: New to Linux

2011-04-13 Thread Peter Beck
On Wed, 2011-04-13 at 14:36 +0200, Erwan David wrote:
> The author (or the copyright owner, depending of the country) may
> change the licence at any moment.
> However, he cannot remove rights to people who obtained the software
> under GPL. 

a recent example is NoMachine NX4...they changed to closed source
http://www.nomachine.com/news-read.php?idnews=330



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How to install Fedora&Ubuntu with encrypted VG's on one disk?

2011-04-13 Thread johhny_at_poland77
I installed a Fedora 14 first, then an Ubuntu 10.04. I installed them using 
dm_crypt/aes256/lvm, so i used encrypted VolumeGroups. ok. 

At the end of the ubuntu install it said it cannot install GRUB...ok 
So i had to use SuperGRUBdisk to start Fedora&give out the command: 
"grub-install /dev/sda", OK! now i can boot to fedora normally, without using 
supergrubdisk..
But: the problem is, that i can't boot to ubuntu!

Q: Is there any working way to install Fedora 14 & Ubuntu 10.04 using 
(separated) encrypted VolumeGroups? (each volumegroup with other password)..so 
that 2 users (who knows the root passwords of their own distro) can use 1 pc? 
(so that they cannot see each others files..) 
Thanks..

p.s.: i posted to Debian list too, because i don't think it's a Distro-specific 
question.. :\


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Re: How to install Fedora&Ubuntu with encrypted VG's on one disk?

2011-04-13 Thread Jonathan Matthews
On 13 April 2011 23:43, johhny_at_poland77  wrote:
> I installed a Fedora 14 first, then an Ubuntu 10.04. I installed them using 
> dm_crypt/aes256/lvm, so i used encrypted VolumeGroups. ok.
[snip]
> p.s.: i posted to Debian list too, because i don't think it's a 
> Distro-specific question.. :\

I think you're wrong. Please use the appropriate lists; this list is
for Debian-specific traffic.

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Re: mua and mail service provider statistics

2011-04-13 Thread Rob Owens
On Wed, Apr 13, 2011 at 09:05:43PM +0800, Chen Wei wrote:
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> 
> as a first time debian-user subscriber, I feel been buried alive by
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> 
I think Mutt is awesome for handling mailing lists.  I always view in
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interest me.  I can delete the entire thread in the time it takes me to
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Re: problem with apt-get install AND apt-get upgrade

2011-04-13 Thread Scott Ferguson
On 14/04/11 02:59, Christian Jakob wrote:

>> scott@work:~$ python -V
>> Python 2.5.2
> 
> this is the same as mine...
> 
> root@debian # python -V
> Python 2.5.2


You appear to have all the listed dependancies
> 
>> Have you manually installed scons?
>> Did it throw up any errors?
> 
> No I did not try to install scons before.


What happens if you try and install it now? eg:-


> 
>> I strongly suspect the problems is software based - when I've had
>> hardware based problems with apt there have been plenty of error messages...
> 
> I confirm your opinion, it should be a software based problem.
> Let's go back to your first e-mail:
> 
>> The only things I can think of are:-
>> ;temporary problem with the repository (it certainly works at the time
>> of writing this)
>> ;your apt database is corrupted
>> ;weird dependency problem/conflicts
> 
> I think the problem is either corrupted database or dependency problems of 
> apt-get.
> By the way:
> 
> root@debian # apt-get moo
>   (__)
>   (oo)
>   /--\/
>   / | ||
>  * /\---/\
>   ~~ ~~
> "Have you mooed today?"...


:-)
To which the only possible reply is (despite my preference for apt-get):-

# aptitude -v moo


> 
>> If you have the minimal python requirements then, short of suggestions
>>from others, I'd propose that the cause may be a hardware failure.
>>
> ...
>>
>> It's Theodore Ts’o's handler for file system checks - usually runs
>> automagically every x number of boots. It'll show in dmesg if there's
>> been a problem.
> 
> I searched in /var/log/dmesg for "error", "failure" and "abort" - found 
> nothing...

Then an fsck failure shouldn't have occurred you can try running it
manually from single-mode on next reboot. Difficult for me to advise on
how without knowing your partitioning and filesystems - but man fsck is
your friend ;-p

> 
>> A hard drive monitoring system:-
>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/S.M.A.R.T.
>>
>> If your hard drive supports it, and it's enabled in your BIOS, then it
>> can be useful to determine if your hdd is failing.
>>
>> NOTE: I don't propose that you need SMART to solve this problem, it's
>> just another place I look for useful error messages when I'm trying to
>> determine if a fault is hardware or software based.
> 
> I'll check BIOS settings during next restart and report in the next message.
> I don't think it's an hardware problem, but maybe I'm wrong.
> 
> P.S. I tried to install apt with the deb package manually, nothing has 
> changed, same problem.
> By now I think of something like
> 
> apt-cache remove apt 
> dpkg -i apt_0.7.20.2+lenny2_i386.deb
> 
> to solve the problem ... :D

Um, I've never tried to replace apt on a running machine, so I can't
advise. If I did I'd certainly use the -d switch first so that at least
I'd have a local copy of the .deb file/s.

Before trying to replace apt... how about trying a manual install of
scons and posting the output?

eg:-
wget -t 0
http://ftp.de.debian.org/debian/pool/main/s/scons/scons_1.0.0-1_all.deb;
dpkg -i scons*all.deb


> 
> How can I find out, when the last apt-get upgrade or apt-get install was 
> successful?

cat /var/log/dpkg.log | more

dpkg has various options that will give you subsets of the same log.



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Re: Developers, there's a new App Store in town.

2011-04-13 Thread Scott Ferguson
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lowlifes.
3. Do mark it as spam (eg.
http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2011/04/msg00990.html and click on
the "Report as Spam" button.

If you feel very strongly about the sort of
*cough*www.facebook.com/people/Sean-Kendorski/1258640127*cough* people
who set up dozens of spammy sites flogging steriods and pushing
affiliate marketing - remember, it is not legal to belt them when you
meet them in person *cough*440 Deer Run Ct, Limerick,
Pennsylvania*cough*http://maps.google.com.au/maps?q=440+Deer+Run+Ct,+Limerick,+Pennsylvania&oe=utf-8&client=firefox-a&ie=UTF8&hq=&hnear=440+Deer+Run+Ct,+Pennsylvania+19468,+United+States&gl=au&ll=40.242265,-75.533779&spn=0.001857,0.003248&t=h&z=19*cough*

And you probably shouldn't to add their
*cough*skendor...@yahoo.com*cough* email address to the comments on porn
sites.

Hope that helps answer your questions

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Segmentation fault with iceape, etc.

2011-04-13 Thread Don J
For a week or more, I've been having problems with iceape and a few
other programs.  As far as I can see, they get a segmentation fault
and just disappear.  From the debugging and back traces that I've
done, it appears that I may be missing or have corrupted files
relating to Gtk and GLib.  Unfortunately, I'm not savvy enough to
decipher the information and correct the problem.  I could use a
little assistance with this.

I am running KDE and wheezy with the updated kernel 2.6.38-2-686 #1
SMP.  The new kernel had no effect on the problem.  Wheezy is up to
date.  iceape version is 2.0.13-1

Some of the operations which cause a seg fault include trying to send
email with iceape (always), sometimes opening a particular web page
will do it, and it appears the acroread will always do it (while other
pdf readers will not).  At times, gmail started from the iceape web
browser will also fault.  I'm only able to send email via using Google
Chrome to start gmail.

I installed iceape-dbg and followed the directions in the file at
/usr/share/bug/iceape-dbg/presubj

Starting iceape in safe mode with "iceape -safe-more" command line
resulted in segmentation fault; following the suggestion to use the
MOZILLA_DISABLE_PLUGINS=1 resulted in many warning and "critical" as
you can see in the following screen capture:

don@kali:~$ iceape -safe-mode
Segmentation fault
don@kali:~$ MOZILLA_DISABLE_PLUGINS=1 iceape

(iceape-bin:3097): Gtk-WARNING **: Error loading theme icon
'gtk-go-back-ltr' for stock: Icon 'gtk-go-back-ltr' not present in
theme

(iceape-bin:3097): GLib-GObject-CRITICAL **: g_object_unref: assertion
`G_IS_OBJECT (object)' failed

(iceape-bin:3097): Gtk-CRITICAL **: gtk_default_render_icon: assertion
`base_pixbuf != NULL' failed

(iceape-bin:3097): Gtk-CRITICAL **: IA__gtk_style_render_icon:
assertion `pixbuf != NULL' failed

(iceape-bin:3097): GLib-GObject-CRITICAL **: g_object_ref: assertion
`G_IS_OBJECT (object)' failed

(iceape-bin:3097): Gtk-WARNING **: Error loading theme icon
'gtk-go-forward-ltr' for stock: Icon 'gtk-go-forward-ltr' not present
in theme

(iceape-bin:3097): GLib-GObject-CRITICAL **: g_object_unref: assertion
`G_IS_OBJECT (object)' failed

(iceape-bin:3097): Gtk-CRITICAL **: gtk_default_render_icon: assertion
`base_pixbuf != NULL' failed

(iceape-bin:3097): Gtk-CRITICAL **: IA__gtk_style_render_icon:
assertion `pixbuf != NULL' failed

(iceape-bin:3097): GLib-GObject-CRITICAL **: g_object_ref: assertion
`G_IS_OBJECT (object)' failed

(iceape-bin:3097): Gtk-WARNING **: Error loading theme icon
'gtk-go-forward-ltr' for stock: Icon 'gtk-go-forward-ltr' not present
in theme

(iceape-bin:3097): GLib-GObject-CRITICAL **: g_object_unref: assertion
`G_IS_OBJECT (object)' failed

(iceape-bin:3097): Gtk-CRITICAL **: gtk_default_render_icon: assertion
`base_pixbuf != NULL' failed

(iceape-bin:3097): Gtk-CRITICAL **: IA__gtk_style_render_icon:
assertion `pixbuf != NULL' failed

(iceape-bin:3097): GLib-GObject-CRITICAL **: g_object_ref: assertion
`G_IS_OBJECT (object)' failed

(iceape-bin:3097): GLib-GObject-CRITICAL **: g_object_unref: assertion
`G_IS_OBJECT (object)' failed

(iceape-bin:3097): GLib-GObject-CRITICAL **: g_object_unref: assertion
`G_IS_OBJECT (object)' failed

(iceape-bin:3097): Gtk-WARNING **: Error loading theme icon
'gtk-go-forward-ltr' for stock: Icon 'gtk-go-forward-ltr' not present
in theme

(iceape-bin:3097): GLib-GObject-CRITICAL **: g_object_unref: assertion
`G_IS_OBJECT (object)' failed

(iceape-bin:3097): Gtk-CRITICAL **: gtk_default_render_icon: assertion
`base_pixbuf != NULL' failed

(iceape-bin:3097): Gtk-CRITICAL **: IA__gtk_style_render_icon:
assertion `pixbuf != NULL' failed

(iceape-bin:3097): GLib-GObject-CRITICAL **: g_object_ref: assertion
`G_IS_OBJECT (object)' failed
Segmentation fault
don@kali:~$

I also ran gdb using the command line "iceape -g" which resulted in
many lines and eventual segmentation fault.  A "bt" was also done per
instructions. I have this in a file if it would help diagnosing my
problem, but I have a feeling that the above information may be
adequate for someone to tell me if I am missing files or something.

I also tried installing firefox and it too bombs out the same way as
iceape, so my suspicion is iceape is OK and it is external file(s).

Can someone interpret the warnings and critical stuff for me?  I'm not
a newbie, but I have little experience in this area.

I do have two other problems that has recently popped up, and I do not
know if they are related to this problem or not, but I'll mention just
in case it should give any more clues:
(1) iceape, when closed by either the X in upper right corner of KDE
or thru file->exit, continues to operate.  I have to kill the process
in order to restart iceape several minutes later.
(2) the icons on my desktop do not maintain their position if
rebooted, and using icons->sort does not respond properly.


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Re: Segmentation fault with iceape, etc.

2011-04-13 Thread Javier Vasquez
On Wed, Apr 13, 2011 at 8:02 PM, Don J  wrote:
> For a week or more, I've been having problems with iceape and a few
> other programs.  As far as I can see, they get a segmentation fault
> and just disappear.  From the debugging and back traces that I've
> done, it appears that I may be missing or have corrupted files
> relating to Gtk and GLib.  Unfortunately, I'm not savvy enough to
> decipher the information and correct the problem.  I could use a
> little assistance with this.
>
> I am running KDE and wheezy with the updated kernel 2.6.38-2-686 #1
> SMP.  The new kernel had no effect on the problem.  Wheezy is up to
> date.  iceape version is 2.0.13-1
>
> Some of the operations which cause a seg fault include trying to send
> email with iceape (always), sometimes opening a particular web page
> will do it, and it appears the acroread will always do it (while other
> pdf readers will not).  At times, gmail started from the iceape web
> browser will also fault.  I'm only able to send email via using Google
> Chrome to start gmail.
>
> I installed iceape-dbg and followed the directions in the file at
> /usr/share/bug/iceape-dbg/presubj
>
> Starting iceape in safe mode with "iceape -safe-more" command line
> resulted in segmentation fault; following the suggestion to use the
> MOZILLA_DISABLE_PLUGINS=1 resulted in many warning and "critical" as
> you can see in the following screen capture:
>
> don@kali:~$ iceape -safe-mode
> Segmentation fault
> don@kali:~$ MOZILLA_DISABLE_PLUGINS=1 iceape
>
> (iceape-bin:3097): Gtk-WARNING **: Error loading theme icon
> 'gtk-go-back-ltr' for stock: Icon 'gtk-go-back-ltr' not present in
> theme
>
> (iceape-bin:3097): GLib-GObject-CRITICAL **: g_object_unref: assertion
> `G_IS_OBJECT (object)' failed
>
> (iceape-bin:3097): Gtk-CRITICAL **: gtk_default_render_icon: assertion
> `base_pixbuf != NULL' failed
>
> (iceape-bin:3097): Gtk-CRITICAL **: IA__gtk_style_render_icon:
> assertion `pixbuf != NULL' failed
>
> (iceape-bin:3097): GLib-GObject-CRITICAL **: g_object_ref: assertion
> `G_IS_OBJECT (object)' failed
>
> (iceape-bin:3097): Gtk-WARNING **: Error loading theme icon
> 'gtk-go-forward-ltr' for stock: Icon 'gtk-go-forward-ltr' not present
> in theme
>
> (iceape-bin:3097): GLib-GObject-CRITICAL **: g_object_unref: assertion
> `G_IS_OBJECT (object)' failed
>
> (iceape-bin:3097): Gtk-CRITICAL **: gtk_default_render_icon: assertion
> `base_pixbuf != NULL' failed
>
> (iceape-bin:3097): Gtk-CRITICAL **: IA__gtk_style_render_icon:
> assertion `pixbuf != NULL' failed
>
> (iceape-bin:3097): GLib-GObject-CRITICAL **: g_object_ref: assertion
> `G_IS_OBJECT (object)' failed
>
> (iceape-bin:3097): Gtk-WARNING **: Error loading theme icon
> 'gtk-go-forward-ltr' for stock: Icon 'gtk-go-forward-ltr' not present
> in theme
>
> (iceape-bin:3097): GLib-GObject-CRITICAL **: g_object_unref: assertion
> `G_IS_OBJECT (object)' failed
>
> (iceape-bin:3097): Gtk-CRITICAL **: gtk_default_render_icon: assertion
> `base_pixbuf != NULL' failed
>
> (iceape-bin:3097): Gtk-CRITICAL **: IA__gtk_style_render_icon:
> assertion `pixbuf != NULL' failed
>
> (iceape-bin:3097): GLib-GObject-CRITICAL **: g_object_ref: assertion
> `G_IS_OBJECT (object)' failed
>
> (iceape-bin:3097): GLib-GObject-CRITICAL **: g_object_unref: assertion
> `G_IS_OBJECT (object)' failed
>
> (iceape-bin:3097): GLib-GObject-CRITICAL **: g_object_unref: assertion
> `G_IS_OBJECT (object)' failed
>
> (iceape-bin:3097): Gtk-WARNING **: Error loading theme icon
> 'gtk-go-forward-ltr' for stock: Icon 'gtk-go-forward-ltr' not present
> in theme
>
> (iceape-bin:3097): GLib-GObject-CRITICAL **: g_object_unref: assertion
> `G_IS_OBJECT (object)' failed
>
> (iceape-bin:3097): Gtk-CRITICAL **: gtk_default_render_icon: assertion
> `base_pixbuf != NULL' failed
>
> (iceape-bin:3097): Gtk-CRITICAL **: IA__gtk_style_render_icon:
> assertion `pixbuf != NULL' failed
>
> (iceape-bin:3097): GLib-GObject-CRITICAL **: g_object_ref: assertion
> `G_IS_OBJECT (object)' failed
> Segmentation fault
> don@kali:~$
>
> I also ran gdb using the command line "iceape -g" which resulted in
> many lines and eventual segmentation fault.  A "bt" was also done per
> instructions. I have this in a file if it would help diagnosing my
> problem, but I have a feeling that the above information may be
> adequate for someone to tell me if I am missing files or something.
>
> I also tried installing firefox and it too bombs out the same way as
> iceape, so my suspicion is iceape is OK and it is external file(s).
>
> Can someone interpret the warnings and critical stuff for me?  I'm not
> a newbie, but I have little experience in this area.
>
> I do have two other problems that has recently popped up, and I do not
> know if they are related to this problem or not, but I'll mention just
> in case it should give any more clues:
> (1) iceape, when closed by either the X in upper right corner of KDE
> or thru file->exit, continues to operate.  I have to kill the process
> in order to 

Re: rlocate [was find on another list]

2011-04-13 Thread Andrew McGlashan

Hi,

Sam Watkins wrote:

On Tue, Apr 12, 2011 at 10:28:47PM +1000, Andrew McGlashan wrote:

Why is "find" such a disgustingly inefficient program?


Something like 'rlocate' might be suitable for finding files with certain
names.  I haven't tried it:

  http://www.linux.com/archive/feature/114069


That sounds like a good solution.

I do like find for all sorts of reasons, but traversing a file system
with many thousands of files is pretty painful.  In smaller trees, find
works just fine.  I accept, that it is only when using larger trees of
files/dirs that find is found wanting an awful lot more.

Now to find which Debian package rlocate is in today, hopefully it is in
current stable.

Okay, I can't find any such Debian package, given the age of rlocate 
dates back to 2005 [just like the referred article link above] ... is 
there a better alternative today?  Or does anyone know which package has 
the rlocate tool?


And also, are there any known problems / issues that arise using rlocate?

Thanks.

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Re: New user questions

2011-04-13 Thread Dr. Ed Morbius
on 10:22 Wed 13 Apr, Freeman (hew...@gmail.com) wrote:
> On Tue, Apr 12, 2011 at 03:45:10PM -0700, Dr. Ed Morbius wrote:
> > on 13:03 Tue 12 Apr, Freeman (hew...@gmail.com) wrote:
> > > On Mon, Apr 11, 2011 at 01:38:47PM -0700, Dr. Ed Morbius wrote:
> > > > on 10:15 Mon 11 Apr, Michael (mmorse...@gmail.com) wrote:
> > > > > I used Debian about four years ago and enjoyed it.  The computer I
> > > > > had it on died and my wife wouldn't let me put it on our shared
> > > > > computer.  Well, I have another hand-me-down (laptop) that I've put
> > > > > Debian on but am having some issues.
> > > > 
> > > > aptitude upgrade wife is slated for the 10.0 release.
> > > >  
> > > 
> > > No need for it if you have this:
> > > 
> > > http://en.tiraecol.net/modules/comic/comic.php?content_id=88
> > > 
> > > 
> > > > > First, is this the correct newsgroup for such "newbies"?  
> > > >
> > > 
> > > As advanced as this list may seem, the only other good source of 
> > > consistent,
> > > live info that I know of is http://forums.debian.net.  
> > 
> > IRC:  
> > 
> > irc.debian.net/#debian
> > irc.freenode.net/#debian
> > 
> 
> Never irc'd. I have heard a number of reports that they can be quite
> scalding.  However, if they don't mug the newbies & non-geek users, I guess
> that's fine.

The scars have healed nicely, thanks.

Much less frightening than you'd think.  Read the /topic, don't ask to
ask, ask smart questions, and use pastebins if you need to post more
than a line of output.

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How to install unixodbc-dev

2011-04-13 Thread CDR
When I type "apt-get install unixodbc-dev"
I get back:
"Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree
Reading state information... Done
Package unixodbc-dev is not available, but is referred to by another
package.
This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
is only available from another source

E: Package 'unixodbc-dev' has no installation candidate"

Question, maybe I need to add some repositories?

My /etc/apt/sources.list has:


deb cdrom:[Debian GNU/Linux 6.0.1a _Squeeze_ - Official amd64 DVD Binary-1 2011$
deb http://security.debian.org/ squeeze/updates main contrib
deb-src http://security.debian.org/ squeeze/updates main contrib
deb http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ squeeze-updates main contrib
deb-src http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ squeeze-updates main contrib
deb http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian squeeze main

I am using stable 64 bits.
Federico


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Re: problem with apt-get install AND apt-get upgrade

2011-04-13 Thread Christian Jakob
>Before trying to replace apt... how about trying a manual install of
>scons and posting the output?

root@debian # dpkg -i scons_1.0.0-1_all.deb
Wähle vormals abgewähltes Paket scons.
(Lese Datenbank ... 175901 Dateien und Verzeichnisse sind derzeit installiert.)
Entpacke scons (aus scons_1.0.0-1_all.deb) ...
Richte scons ein (1.0.0-1) ...
Verarbeite Trigger für man-db ...?

root@debian # dpkg -l |grep scons
ii scons 1.0.0-1 A replacement for Make

root @debian # cat /var/log/dpkg.log | more
2011-04-11 20:00:20 startup archives install
2011-04-11 20:00:35 upgrade apt 0.7.20.2+lenny2 0.7.20.2+lenny2
2011-04-11 20:00:35 status half-configured apt 0.7.20.2+lenny2
2011-04-11 20:00:35 status unpacked apt 0.7.20.2+lenny2
2011-04-11 20:00:35 status half-installed apt 0.7.20.2+lenny2
2011-04-11 20:00:36 status triggers-pending man-db 2.5.2-4
2011-04-11 20:00:36 status half-installed apt 0.7.20.2+lenny2
2011-04-11 20:00:36 status half-installed apt 0.7.20.2+lenny2
2011-04-11 20:00:37 status unpacked apt 0.7.20.2+lenny2
2011-04-11 20:00:37 status unpacked apt 0.7.20.2+lenny2
2011-04-11 20:00:37 configure apt 0.7.20.2+lenny2 0.7.20.2+lenny2
2011-04-11 20:00:37 status unpacked apt 0.7.20.2+lenny2
2011-04-11 20:00:37 status unpacked apt 0.7.20.2+lenny2
2011-04-11 20:00:37 status unpacked apt 0.7.20.2+lenny2
2011-04-11 20:00:37 status unpacked apt 0.7.20.2+lenny2
2011-04-11 20:00:37 status half-configured apt 0.7.20.2+lenny2
2011-04-11 20:00:37 status triggers-awaited apt 0.7.20.2+lenny2
2011-04-11 20:00:37 trigproc man-db 2.5.2-4 2.5.2-4
2011-04-11 20:00:37 status half-configured man-db 2.5.2-4
2011-04-11 20:00:37 status installed apt 0.7.20.2+lenny2
2011-04-11 20:00:38 status installed man-db 2.5.2-4
2011-04-14 07:35:25 startup archives install
2011-04-14 07:35:40 install scons  1.0.0-1
2011-04-14 07:35:40 status half-installed scons 1.0.0-1
2011-04-14 07:35:41 status triggers-pending man-db 2.5.2-4
2011-04-14 07:35:41 status half-installed scons 1.0.0-1
2011-04-14 07:35:41 status unpacked scons 1.0.0-1
2011-04-14 07:35:41 status unpacked scons 1.0.0-1
2011-04-14 07:35:41 configure scons 1.0.0-1 1.0.0-1
2011-04-14 07:35:41 status unpacked scons 1.0.0-1
2011-04-14 07:35:41 status half-configured scons 1.0.0-1
2011-04-14 07:35:42 status triggers-awaited scons 1.0.0-1
2011-04-14 07:35:42 trigproc man-db 2.5.2-4 2.5.2-4
2011-04-14 07:35:42 status half-configured man-db 2.5.2-4
2011-04-14 07:35:42 status installed scons 1.0.0-1
2011-04-14 07:35:43 status installed man-db 2.5.2-4

... if it helps ...

Last time I send a message S.M.A.R.T. was disabled, this time it is enabled. I 
realize no difference.

I'll try fsck next time I restart the machine.

Thank you.

Christian.


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