Re: udev question
On Thu, 30 Dec 2010 13:00:32 -0500, Thomas H. George wrote: > For Christmas I was given an ipod. When connected to a usb port the > system (Debian Squeeze, linux-2.6.32-5-amd64 stock kernel) gives the > following response. (...) Apple products are "special" devices. You need more than magic to get them working. There is a Debian wiki page about the iphone/ipod: http://wiki.debian.org/iPhone Ensure you have all the required packages installed, specially "ifuse" which seems to be the one in charge in mounting the device. Greetings, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/pan.2010.12.31.08.54...@gmail.com
Re: recursively count the words occurrence in the text files
On Thu, 30 Dec 2010 10:34:59 -0800, S Mathias wrote: > I just can't google for it: (...) Just out of curiosity... why not? :-? http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&complete=0&biw=1280&bih=839&&sa=X&ei=WpodTYuiIImi8QORlqXrBQ&ved=0CBYQvwUoAQ&q=bash+count+word+occurrences+in+files&spell=1 Greetings, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/pan.2010.12.31.08.59...@gmail.com
Re: Serious filesystem bug?
Slobodan Aleksić schreef: Hello everyone, I don't know how to catogorize this: I am using Debian/Squeeze on a laptop with an encrypted ext3 filesystem. (Encryption done through the debian-installer). I have a h2-database running. It got corrupted many times. I had to " touch /forcefsck" and after a reboot and the forced filesystemcheck all was again okay. The same problem appeared with downloaded ISOs. I ran md5sum checks on the ISO and they were wrong. After forcing a fsck at boottime the md5sum of the ISOs were correct! This is not the unique, might have been unnoticed, filesystem usage that you'd expect for new bugs to occur. So my guess is that there might be a problem with your hardware. What does smartctl -H /dev/yourdrive tell you? Also try smartctl --test=short /dev/yourdrive and then smartctl --test=long /dev/yourdrive Hopefully this uncovers something useful. Sjoerd signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: USB CD/DVD what's compatible
On Thu, 30 Dec 2010 19:21:48 -0600, Johnny wrote:
> I am thinking of buying a USB CD/DVD recorder which one would be
> compatible. I did a google search, still doing research on USB CD/DVD
> recorders. I have not come up with anything yet. I figured I would ask
> here.
Just an idea (is what I use to do).
Usually, bigger online shops allow posting comments on their products
(like we discussed yesterday in another thread) and often users provide
feedback about linux support ("it works under 'X' distribution or it
doesn't work at all, etc...").
Amazon is one of the online retailers that provide that option but New
Egg is another one you can try:
http://www.newegg.com/Store/SubCategory.aspx?SubCategory=420&name=External-CD-DVD-Drives
Besides, I find their product filtering options very powerful.
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Re: Scanner recommendations
On 30 Dec 2010, vr wrote: > > Can anyone recommend a current shipping quality scanner they've > bought and used with Squeeze? My Google searches return articles > from 2000 and 2003. I'd like to scan 35mm negatives, slides, some > photos and regular paper documents. > > When I looked into this a year or so ago I couldn't find anything useful that would work with Linux. I have an Epson 1650 which works well (though it doesn't do negatives) and I wanted another to use in a different location. I managed to get one from ebay at a reasonable price. I regard the present trend to have everything (printer, scanner, fax) built into a single machine a retrorade step. What if you already have a printer or don't like any of those that come with a scanner? You have to find room for a second printer which you don't need; there are further questions concerning the compatibility of all this stuff with Linux, and if something goes wrong with the printer (say), you have to repair or scrap everything at once. This is another example of the ill effects of the _market_ which have been discussed in another thread on this list in connection with wide-screen monitors. -- Anthony Campbell - a...@acampbell.org.uk Microsoft-free zone - Using Debian GNU/Linux http://www.acampbell.org.uk - sample my ebooks at http://www.smashwords.com/profile/view/acampbell -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20101231090312.ga28...@acampbell.org.uk
making iso image with gnome?
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Re: permissions all zero when using 'cp'
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it gets weirder ...
m...@x:/tmp$ ( env -i; LANG=C lsattr; )
- --- ./test
- --- ./ssh-IxYCtP5517
- --- ./strace1
lsattr: Permission denied While reading flags on ./test.bak
- --- ./strace2
- --- ./test.bak2
lsattr: Permission denied While reading flags on
./reportbug-base-20101229-15630-9rIBOP
- --- ./cp.strace.out
r...@x:/tmp# ( env -i; LANG=C lsattr; )
- --- ./test
- --- ./ssh-IxYCtP5517
- --- ./strace1
- --- ./test.bak
- --- ./strace2
- --- ./test.bak2
- --- ./reportbug-base-20101229-15630-9rIBOP
- --- ./cp.strace.out
r...@x:/tmp# ls -altr
insgesamt 44
drwxrwxrwt 2 root root 4096 29. Dez 15:06 .X11-unix
drwxrwxrwt 2 root root 4096 29. Dez 15:06 .ICE-unix
- -rw-rw-r-- 1 root root 0 29. Dez 21:47 test.bak2
- -rw-rw-r-- 1 root root 0 29. Dez 21:47 test
drwxr-xr-x 21 root root 4096 29. Dez 22:06 ..
- -- 1 root root 0 29. Dez 22:22 test.bak
- -rwsr-Sr-T 1 root root 6449 29. Dez 22:22 strace1
- -rwsr-Sr-T 1 root root 6864 29. Dez 22:22 strace2
- --wx--s--T 1 root root 419 29. Dez 22:37
reportbug-base-20101229-15630-9rIBOP
- -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 2139 30. Dez 20:23 cp.strace.out
drwx-- 2 mlo users 4096 31. Dez 10:48 ssh-IxYCtP5517
drwxrwxrwt 5 root root 4096 31. Dez 10:50 .
Am 30.12.2010 21:03, schrieb Bob Proulx:
> Martin Lorenz wrote:
>> m...@x:~$ type cp
>> cp is aliased to `cp -i'
>>
>> as root:
>>
>> r...@x:~# type cp
>> cp is /bin/cp
>
> It looks okay. I was hoping that it pointed to a different command
> that could be traced to a problem. But apparently not.
>
>>> Try running in a clean environment to see if it is an environment
>>> variable. 'env -i' will initialize an empty environment.
>
> It looks okay. I was hoping that an environment variable such as
> LD_PRELOAD or LD_LIBRARY_PATH would have pointed to a rogue library.
> Without that in the environment it would work. But apparently not.
>
> Those two ideas were my best guesses at what could cause such strange
> behavior. Unfortunately your reply information does not show anything
> wrong that I can see in either of those two cases.
>
>>> If that still shows a problem then look deeper with strace.
>>> $ strace -v -e trace=file -o /tmp/cp.strace.out cp testfile1 testfile2
>> open("testfile1", O_RDONLY|O_LARGEFILE) = 3
>> open("testfile2", O_WRONLY|O_CREAT|O_EXCL|O_LARGEFILE, 0) = 4
>
> That is perfectly normal for a 32-bit system. Okay.
>
>> does this tell you something?
>
> Unfortunately your information looked normal and did not point me
> toward anything that looked like a problem.
>
> Mike Bird's guess at selinux was a good question.
>
> I am not conversationally fluent with filesystem attributes. Is it
> possible that 'chattr' was run on your filesystem? Try running
> 'lsattr' and listing the filesystem attributes to see if something has
> been set. You will need to read the documentation for information as
> I know little about it but only that they exist. For me I only see
> dashes on my filesystem because I have not set any attributes.
>
> lsattr
>
> Sorry but I do not know. I have exhausted my guesses.
>
> Bob
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Re: Scanner recommendations
On Thu, 30 Dec 2010 14:46:58 -0500, vr wrote: > Can anyone recommend a current shipping quality scanner they've bought > and used with Squeeze? My Google searches return articles from 2000 and > 2003. I'd like to scan 35mm negatives, slides, some photos and regular > paper documents. I would also look into HP/Epson/whatever "all-in-one" devices because most of these solutions provide drivers for linux (like "hplip" for HP devices or "avasys/image scan" for Epson ones). Yes, I know, I also prefer by far a "stand-alone" scanner, but the good part is that these devices provide ADF capabilities, ethernet port and even wifi for a reasonable prize. Just check the device also supports scanning film negatives and slides alognside with the driver. Greetings, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/pan.2010.12.31.10.04...@gmail.com
Re: making iso image with gnome?
On Fri, 31 Dec 2010 04:33:09 -0500, Jude DaShiell wrote: > What program by default is used along alongside brasero in gnome to make > an iso image from a directory or directory tree's contents? You mean what "backend"? :-? I think is cdrkit, which contains "genisoimage", "wodim"... Greetings, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/pan.2010.12.31.10.10...@gmail.com
Re: wodim and perhaps nautilus surprise
On 2010-12-30, Frank Lanitz wrote: > --Signature=_Fri__31_Dec_2010_00_13_13_+0100_plbmMFh+6iUim.J= > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII > Content-Disposition: inline > Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > > On Thu, 30 Dec 2010 17:31:34 + (UTC) > Liam O'Toole wrote: > >> On 2010-12-30, Jude DaShiell wrote: >> > I've been trying to help a friend burn his first cd on his system. He = > has=20 >> > gnome-desktop-environment and wodim with all dependencies installed.=20 >> > What he recently told me is that nautilus has no problem burning cd's b= > ut=20 >> > wodim finds that cd burner unknown and unsupported. Apparently things = > are=20 >> > not coordinated between command line environments and g.u.i. environmen= > ts=20 >> > with respect to supported hardware. >>=20 >> While nautilus is burning a CD, look at the output of 'ps x'. It will >> tell you which child process nautilus launches and which arguments it >> uses. > > Well, IIRC is nautilus using brasero which is not using cdrecord/wodim.=20 That may well be the case in squeeze, but not in lenny (where brasero is not installed in my case). But I must admit it's been a while since I looked at this matter. -- Liam O'Toole Cork, Ireland -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/slrnihrc0u.4ac.liam.p.oto...@dipsy.tubbynet
Re: recursively count the words occurrence in the text files
Hi, S Mathias wrote: I just can't google for it: I'm searching for a "bash" "one liner" (awk, perl, or anything) for this: there are text files, in several directories: mkdir one mkdir two mkdir three echo "word1 word2 word3" > one/asf.txt echo "word2 word4, word5" > one/asfcxv saf.txt echo "word1. word2" > one/dsgsdg.txt echo "word6, word3!" > two/sdgsd dsf.txt echo "word6" > two/ergd.txt echo "asdf, word2" > three/werdf.txt echo "word7, word8 word9 word10" > three/qwerb erfsdgdsg.txt echo "word4 word3" > three/web erg as.txt so it does the magic* "recursively": $ SOMEMAGIC > output.txt cat output.txt asdf 1 word1 2 word2 4 word3 3 word4 2 word5 1 word6 2 word7 1 word8 1 word9 1 word10 1 $ find . ! -name output.txt -type f|xargs cat | \ tr -s ' .,' '\n\n\n'|sort -u | \ while read x;do find . ! -name output.txt -type f| \ xargs cat|echo $x: `grep -c $x `;done | \ tee output.txt That was fun... of course, it was a one liner, but I added the formatting above for the email ;-) Cheers -- Kind Regards AndrewM Andrew McGlashan Broadband Solutions now including VoIP -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4d1db31e.1070...@affinityvision.com.au
Re: [OT] Re: microsoft.com -> NetBSD
Dne, 31. 12. 2010 05:45:58 je Nate Bargmann napisal(a): * On 2010 30 Dec 12:50 -0600, Brad Alexander wrote: > > I can only say that I love BSD licenses. I know many people can be anger > > by this but I find that BSD licences are the best exponent for the true > > and unconditional user freedom. > > I agree with Camaleón. Not to end 2010 with a flame war, but this is > the one thing that irritates me most about the FSF. They advocate free > software, which is a laudable goal, but they seem to only acknowledge > it *if* you conform to their definition of free. By definition, if a > user chooses to, they should be *free* to use commercial software and > be as equally accepted as someone who opts not to have any binary > blobs on their system. In their own way, Stallman and the FSF are > trying to accomplish lock-in as much as the vendors... Sorry, but as a contributor to a small Free Software project licensed under GPL and LGPL, I respectfully disagree. Much has been provided to me because of the GPL and I believe that my contributions warrant the same opportunity by others. I do not want any of my contributions taken proprietary by *any* entity for *any* reason. I also do not see the GPL as lock-in, rather as lock-out. Couldn't agree more. It's a war. We really shouldn't fool ourselves about that. Countering the immense power of proprietary software companies with non-viral free licenses is like fighting against tanks with just bare hands. Corporations -- software ones included -- are *not* like us. They may contain some "decent people" but they are not themselves "decent people" like we are, they are soulless entities. We shouldn't make the mistake of personifying them, that is, of projecting our inner traits of honesty, decency, humanity, honor, or morality onto them: they have none of those. They just have *agendas*. GPL gives developers of free software at least half a chance. It saddens me to see how many people fail, or refuse, to see that. -- Cheerio, Klistvud http://bufferoverflow.tiddlyspot.com Certifiable Loonix User #481801 Please reply to the list, not to me. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1293792231.692...@compax
Re: making iso image with gnome?
Dne, 31. 12. 2010 10:33:09 je Jude DaShiell napisal(a): What program by default is used along alongside brasero in gnome to make an iso image from a directory or directory tree's contents? Well, I wouldn't know about "default" but I successfully use GnomeBaker. At least one of the two uses mkisofs as backend, if I'm not mistaken, so you may try that if you're a CLI guy. -- Cheerio, Klistvud http://bufferoverflow.tiddlyspot.com Certifiable Loonix User #481801 Please reply to the list, not to me. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1293792621.692...@compax
Re: saytime kills sound
* Camaleón [101230 17:23 +]: [...] > Nope, it's not even visible :-? Don't bother us with wasteful stuff. See [0]. Saytime is actually unusable. [0] http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=587124 Elimar -- Learned men are the cisterns of knowledge, not the fountainheads ;-) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20101231104242.ga4...@samweis.home.lxtec.de
Re: Setting Access Control for Printers and browser
On Thu, 30 Dec 2010 07:39:02 -0800, Christian Simo wrote: > On Thu, Dec 30, 2010 at 2:19 AM, Camaleón wrote: > >> Can you expand the information? The more details you provide the better >> so people can have an idea of your requirements. >> > I want to set up the authentication system, so user can login before > use a printer or the browser for internet. > It's can be also be able to know who was printing? (...) For printing, I would review CUPS documentation on policies: http://www.cups.org/documentation.php/doc-1.4/policies.html Concrete steps on how to setting up will vary based on how are you sharing the printer (ipp, samba...). For network browsing, there are "proxies" like Squid that can be used for this same purpose (restrict access to web sites by using ACL and controlling/auditing your users bandwith). http://www.squid-cache.org/ Greetings, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/pan.2010.12.31.11.19...@gmail.com
Re: insserv + apache2 + bind9 = pain
On Thu December 30 2010 22:27:33 Arthur Machlas wrote: > http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=608437 Wow, that was fast! Thank you all! -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/201012310325.40518.mgb-deb...@yosemite.net
Re: insserv + apache2 + bind9 = pain
On Thu December 30 2010 22:29:00 Arthur Machlas wrote: > Have you considered file-rc? file-rc is on our list as a possible fallback but the key seems to be to recover and then retain the combined intelligence that Debian Developers have encoded into those Snn/Knn values over the years. The rcN.d format is an excellent design if we can just keep insserv from mangling it. --Mike Bird -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/201012310330.35965.mgb-deb...@yosemite.net
Re: saytime kills sound
On Fri, 31 Dec 2010 11:42:42 +0100, Elimar Riesebieter wrote: > * Camaleón [101230 17:23 +]: > [...] >> Nope, it's not even visible :-? > > Don't bother us with wasteful stuff. That sounds a bit rough... what do you exactly consider is "wasteful" in helping people? > See [0]. Saytime is actually > unusable. > > [0] http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=587124 Well, that can explain some things (distorted sound output) but once you are stuck and lost your sound at all, it would be nice to know how to restore it without the needing of restarting the system. Greetings, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/pan.2010.12.31.11.30...@gmail.com
05_debian_theme in unstable's grub-pc
A portion of /etc/grub.d/05_debian_theme in grub-pc 1.98+20100804-11 has:
# Earlier versions of grub-pc copied the default background image to
/boot/grub
# during postinst. Remove those obsolete images if they haven't been touched
by
# the user. They are still available under /usr/share/images/desktop-base/ if
# desktop-base is installed.
while read checksum background; do
if [ -f "${background}" ] && [ "x`sha1sum "${background}"`" =
"x${checksum} ${
background}" ]; then
echo "Removing old background image: ${background}" >&2
rm "${background}"
fi
done
Re: 05_debian_theme in unstable's grub-pc
On Fri Dec 31, 2010 at 11:44:01 +, Brian wrote: > I understand what its purpose is but am unclear as to the meaning of > >. . . if they haven't been touched by the user. > > as it doesn't appear possible to alter the sha1sum of a file by touching it. It's a shorthand way of saying "modified" - which would clearly change the hash. "I didn't touch the cake", is like "I didn't eat the cake" :) Steve -- Debian GNU/Linux System Administration http://www.debian-administration.org/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20101231122330.ga31...@steve.org.uk
Re: [OT] Re: microsoft.com -> NetBSD
On Thu, 30 Dec 2010 13:47:15 -0500, Brad Alexander wrote: >> I can only say that I love BSD licenses. I know many people can be >> anger by this but I find that BSD licences are the best exponent for >> the true and unconditional user freedom. > > I agree with Camaleón. Not to end 2010 with a flame war, but this is the > one thing that irritates me most about the FSF. They advocate free > software, which is a laudable goal, but they seem to only acknowledge it > *if* you conform to their definition of free. By definition, if a user > chooses to, they should be *free* to use commercial software and be as > equally accepted as someone who opts not to have any binary blobs on > their system. In their own way, Stallman and the FSF are trying to > accomplish lock-in as much as the vendors... Well, I don't see any strong contradictions in BSD licences (tagged as "new/modified") and the FSF... in fact the Modified BSD licencse it is listed in their site and marked as "GPL compatible": http://www.gnu.org/licenses/license-list.html#GPLCompatibleLicenses So we (BSD and FSF lovers) can all be happy :-) In brief, I think non-copyleft licences are more user-oriented than gpl- ed ones (which put the "full powers" on developer's hand). Greetings, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/pan.2010.12.31.12.58...@gmail.com
Re: [OT] Re: microsoft.com -> NetBSD
On Jo, 30 dec 10, 18:40:57, Camaleón wrote: > On Thu, 30 Dec 2010 10:11:43 -0800, S Mathias wrote: > > > http://research.microsoft.com/en-us/downloads/754fee75-c5a0-4542- > bf9b-47f236c0a90b/default.aspx > > > > Any comments? > > Additional information: > > http://www.bsdnewsletter.com/2010/12/News180.html > > I can only say that I love BSD licenses. I know many people can be anger > by this but I find that BSD licences are the best exponent for the true > and unconditional user freedom. The most interesting for me was this (emphasis mine): , | Microsoft released their NetBSD installation ISO image with everything: | their custom scheduler, *full sources*, tools, man pages, etc. [...] | (Under the nice NetBSD license.) ` especially since the BSD license does not force them to release sources, or to release them under same license. Regards, Andrei -- Offtopic discussions among Debian users and developers: http://lists.alioth.debian.org/mailman/listinfo/d-community-offtopic signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Installed Debian today.
Robert Holtzman writes: >> LOL LTS is much buggy then non-LTS. 9.10 was the only stable version i have >> used. > > That's the biggest bunch of BS I've seen in a long time. I've used the > last 3 LTS releases and they have been completely stable. So your experience is different. Great. > Your posts reflect several earmarks of a troll. and yours has several earmarks of an infuriated fanboy -Miles -- Alone, adj. In bad company. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/87y676t7gz@catnip.gol.com
Re: 05_debian_theme in unstable's grub-pc
On Fri 31 Dec 2010 at 12:23:30 +, Steve Kemp wrote: > It's a shorthand way of saying "modified" - which would clearly > change the hash. > > "I didn't touch the cake", is like "I didn't eat the cake" :) Thanks. That was one interpretation I thought of. So it's nothing to do with touch(1)? Changing a file's timestamp wouldn't alter the hash. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20101231125830.ge32...@desktop
Re: [OT] Re: microsoft.com -> NetBSD
Brad Alexander writes: > Not to end 2010 with a flame war, but this is the one thing that > irritates me most about the FSF. They advocate free software, which is > a laudable goal, but they seem to only acknowledge it *if* you conform > to their definition of free. The FSF explicitly acknowledges the BSD as a Free license. > By definition, if a user chooses to, they should be *free* to use > commercial software... They are. -- John Hasler -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/877heqax90@thumper.dhh.gt.org
Re: insserv + apache2 + bind9 = pain
On Fri, Dec 31, 2010 at 6:30 AM, Mike Bird wrote: > On Thu December 30 2010 22:29:00 Arthur Machlas wrote: >> >> Have you considered file-rc? > > file-rc is on our list as a possible fallback but the key seems to > be to recover and then retain the combined intelligence that Debian > Developers have encoded into those Snn/Knn values over the years. file-rc's moving towards using dependency-based boot: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=573004 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/aanlktinx409uhbjg1zkwrasrsertadcftixqt3_gb...@mail.gmail.com
Re: [slightly OT] Internet accessible home security systems using Debian?
On Thu, 30 Dec 2010 13:37:20 -0800, Rick Thomas wrote:
> Does anybody have any experience installing/using an internet accessible
> home security system?
>
> We recently bought a retirement home, but it will be a year or so before
> we can move in -- leaving the place uninhabited most of the time. I'd
> like to install an inexpensive (under $1000 for parts -- I'll do the
> installation myself) CC-TV ("CC"="closed circuit") and recorder that
> can be connected to a Linux-based computer I can access over the
> Internet.
>
> Has anybody done such a thing? Any recommendations?
There was a recent Unixmen article on this subject:
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Howto Turn your old webcam into a motion-detecting security camera in
Linux
http://www.unixmen.com/linux-tutorials/1018-how-to-turn-your-webcam-into-a-motion-detecting-security-spy-camera-in-linux
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> A friend recommended Apex CC-TV. Their web site has a setup with 4
> cameras and a 250GB DVR that has "the ability to remotely view live and
> recorded video from any Internet connection." Has anybody here ever
> dealt with them? Any thoughts?
You could also consider small domo IP networked cameras which provide an
embedded mini web-server and they're easy to setup and control (basically
you only need to provide the power and a dsl/cable Internet connection).
Some of the more advanced devices also allow storing the data remotely or
sending e-mails with attached images when motion is deteced or at
predefined/regular intervals.
Greetings,
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Re: saytime kills sound
Camaleón wrote: On Fri, 31 Dec 2010 11:42:42 +0100, Elimar Riesebieter wrote: * Camaleón [101230 17:23 +]: [...] Nope, it's not even visible :-? Don't bother us with wasteful stuff. That sounds a bit rough... what do you exactly consider is "wasteful" in helping people? See [0]. Saytime is actually unusable. [0] http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=587124 Well, that can explain some things (distorted sound output) but once you are stuck and lost your sound at all, it would be nice to know how to restore it without the needing of restarting the system. There is something funny going on: when you get the source you do not get the Debian version: because that mentions using sox and there is no sox call through execl in saytime.c. Hugo -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/ifksa5$ou...@dough.gmane.org
Re: [slightly OT] Internet accessible home security systems using Debian?
Hi again >> Does anybody have any experience installing/using an internet accessible >> home security system? > You could also consider small domo IP networked cameras which provide an > embedded mini web-server and they're easy to setup and control (basically > you only need to provide the power and a dsl/cable Internet connection). i prefer the Foscam ipcams: http://www.foscam.com/ that are quite cheap (and can be used also in ZoneMinder environment) Regards M
Re: USB CD/DVD what's compatible
On 12/31/2010 02:21 AM, Johnny wrote: I am thinking of buying a USB CD/DVD recorder which one would be compatible. I did a google search, still doing research on USB CD/DVD recorders. I have not come up with anything yet. I figured I would ask here. Johnny Hi, I have Transcend TS8XDVDRW-W and he works with my Squeeze/Sid. -- Bye, Goran Dobosevic Hrvatski: www.dobosevic.com English: www.dobosevic.com/en/ Registered Linux User #503414 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4d1dfc59.2070...@dobosevic.com
lenny to squeeze upgrade - printer not working
Hi just upgraded from lenny to squeeze and the printer is not working. I manage it via http://localhost:631 jobs are sent and lpq says that they are printing but in cups the printer status is Processing - "Printer is offline." needless to say eveything was working fine before the upgrade. Tried restarting cups and lpd but did not make a difference. The printer is a HP Deskjet 6500. Any suggestions, shared experiences are welcome. Best Filipe
Re: lenny to squeeze upgrade - printer not working
On Fri, 2010-12-31 at 18:36 +0100, Filipe Freire wrote: > jobs are sent and lpq says that they are printing but in cups the > printer status is Processing - "Printer is offline." Hi Filipe, Not sure, but as far as I can remember I had this recently too and cupsenable did solve this issue... Cheers Peter -- Wer die Freiheit aufgibt um Sicherheit zu gewinnen, der wird am Ende beides verlieren. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1293817185.13765.157.ca...@peanut.datentraeger.li
Re: [OT] Stupid consumers and inferior hardware (was: Monitor question)
On Thu, 30 Dec 2010 10:03:24 -0500 (EST) Stephen Powell wrote: > > Manufacturers are not doing this because the consumer wants it. They > are doing it to cut costs. And they think they can get away with it. > And sadly, in most cases, they are right. Most consumers can't even > tell that they are being ripped off. If consumers stopped buying > these inferior items, manufacturers would stop producing them. But > they don't. They keep buying them. We're getting what we deserve, > I'm afraid. > they get away with it because most people run windows, the mfr provides the driver, and when it breaks, people expect it because it's windows. Remember the "tulip" ethernet chip ? Friend of mine loaned me a card for ethernet and it worked great. I bought one and it didn't work worth a darn. Got his board back - worked great. Examined the board carefully, they were exactly the same. oh, except for one minor thing. the tulip chip had "rev B" on it. My friends was "rev A". You will always be in trouble with hardware under Linux because of the lack of mfr's drivers, and when they do provide drivers they are generally binary objects, e.g. NVIDIA. It's very frustrating, so I for one appreciate your rant :-) Brian -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20101231095025.056bc...@bamboo.deldotd.com
Re: 05_debian_theme in unstable's grub-pc
Brian wrote: > Steve Kemp wrote: > > It's a shorthand way of saying "modified" - which would clearly > > change the hash. > > > > "I didn't touch the cake", is like "I didn't eat the cake" :) > > Thanks. That was one interpretation I thought of. So it's nothing to do > with touch(1)? Changing a file's timestamp wouldn't alter the hash. Correct. As Steve said, it is a common speech idiom for "modified". In the way it was used it had nothing to do with the 'touch' command. Bob signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: lenny to squeeze upgrade - printer not working
> On Fri, 2010-12-31 at 18:36 +0100, Filipe Freire wrote: > > Thanks Peter, it worked. Hi Filipe, great to hear that. btw: don't reply to me directly, reply to the list ;) A happy new year for you too! Regards Peter -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1293819721.13765.162.ca...@peanut.datentraeger.li
Re: insserv + apache2 + bind9 = pain
On Fri December 31 2010 06:32:27 Tom H wrote: > file-rc's moving towards using dependency-based boot: > http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=573004 It's bad enough that script kiddies insist on breaking things they don't understand. But then they abuse the Debian packaging system by "requiring" instead of "recommending" unnecessary packages so that people are forced to use their silly hacks. Oh well. I'm sure we'll find a way to preserve the many years of work by Debian Developers that is encoded in the Snn/Knn values. The only question is whether it's a clean on-off switch or whether we have to hack the source. Here's to freedom and a great insserv-or-not-insserv new year! --Mike Bird -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/201012311029.54026.mgb-deb...@yosemite.net
Re: insserv + apache2 + bind9 = pain
Mike Bird wrote: > But then they abuse the Debian packaging system by "requiring" > instead of "recommending" unnecessary packages so that people are > forced to use their silly hacks. The new APT default is that Recommends are the same as Requires and so a lot of unnecessary packages are now installed. Those should now be pushed into Suggests. Bob signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Re: Arrow keys won't scroll history in squeeze konsole/bash
Hi David, did you find a solution for the problem with the arrow keys? I just upgrade from lenny to squeeze and I am having exactly the same problem you reported in the debian users list. Best, Filipe -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4d1e192f.1050...@lorentz.leidenuniv.nl
lenny to squeeze - key arrows not all working
Hi debians, near the end of having everything working after my upgrade to squeeze. One last issue. My keyboard, non usb, got its standard arrow key shortcuts disabled after upgrade. Tested with a usb keyboard and there everything works fine but that is not my keyboard so still need to solve this. Tried most options with gnome keyboard shortcuts and gconf-editor. Is this now a limitation form having a non usb keyboard? Best, Filipe
installing X with apt-get
Hi, I'd like to install a minimal X window system with 'apt-get install', with a simple window manager (for example icewm). How to do that? I tried "apt-get install xserver-xorg xbase-clients xinit" but still have a font problem (X exiting) What is the simplest command for later use? Thanks
Re: insserv + apache2 + bind9 = pain
On Fri, Dec 31, 2010 at 12:35 PM, Bob Proulx wrote: > Mike Bird wrote: >> But then they abuse the Debian packaging system by "requiring" >> instead of "recommending" unnecessary packages so that people are >> forced to use their silly hacks. > > The new APT default is that Recommends are the same as Requires and so > a lot of unnecessary packages are now installed. Those should now be > pushed into Suggests. > > Bob This post is pretty much entirely OT, but let's not start the New Year with innaccurate information. Recommends are NOT the same as Requires. What's happened - as of Lenny I thought, but perhaps Squeeze - is that the option to "install recommends automatically" is now turned on by default instead of off by default. You are, of course, free to change it back to off before building up your minimal/customized install. As for all the talk of losing years of wisdom and bug squashing and what-not, I'm not really sure that's the case, but a debate about the worthiness of insserv as a successor to all the Snn Knn links is probably better suited to another thread, perhaps one where more dev's hang out than here on user. In any event, if you hope to convince people of that, I think calling DD's "Script kiddies", especially one who just resolved the bug you noted and I reported within about 12 hrs, probably won't leave them too open to taking your position seriously. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/aanlktik_gd1fc2npuv2vkl153vbozmixuobrucs=v...@mail.gmail.com
Re: lenny to squeeze - key arrows not all working
On Fri, 2010-12-31 at 19:41 +0100, Filipe Freire wrote: > got its standard arrow key shortcuts disabled after upgrade System -> Preferences -> Keyboard -> Mouse Keys is disabled ? If the Mouse keys are enabled, the numberblock on the keyboard behaves strange (imo)...maybe this is also affecting the arrowkeys ? Cheers Peter -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1293822271.13765.165.ca...@peanut.datentraeger.li
Re: insserv + apache2 + bind9 = pain
On Vi, 31 dec 10, 11:35:26, Bob Proulx wrote: > Mike Bird wrote: > > But then they abuse the Debian packaging system by "requiring" > > instead of "recommending" unnecessary packages so that people are > > forced to use their silly hacks. > > The new APT default is that Recommends are the same as Requires and so > a lot of unnecessary packages are now installed. Those should now be > pushed into Suggests. Feel free to file bugs for every package which abuses Recommends. Beware though, that Recommends, according to Policy, should be installed "on all but unusual installations". Kind regards, Andrei -- Offtopic discussions among Debian users and developers: http://lists.alioth.debian.org/mailman/listinfo/d-community-offtopic signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: installing X with apt-get
On Vi, 31 dec 10, 19:49:40, Attila Csosz wrote: > Hi, > > I'd like to install a minimal X window system with 'apt-get install', with a > simple window manager (for example icewm). How to do that? > I tried "apt-get install xserver-xorg xbase-clients xinit" but still have a > font problem (X exiting) > What is the simplest command for later use? You also need xfonts-base and possbily also xfonts-100dpi and xfonts-75dpi Regards, Andrei -- Offtopic discussions among Debian users and developers: http://lists.alioth.debian.org/mailman/listinfo/d-community-offtopic signature.asc Description: Digital signature
pci express wireless card doesn't show up in lspci
Hi all, the card is an Intel 3945ABG. not seeing it in the lspci listing. the PCI express port IS showing up. The card could be bad, but it seems extremely unlikely as it's brand new. MB is an Intel Atom D945GSEJT. I haven't done anything with PCI express card before, just want to make sure that I'm not missing anything obvious. I can install the iwl3945 driver, but it doesn't say anything about detecting a card, and the card still doesn't show up even with the driver installed. I'm very suspicious that I've got something disabled somewhere... Thanks Brian -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/2010123914.0b484...@bamboo.deldotd.com
Re: installing X with apt-get
On Fri, 31 Dec 2010 19:49:40 +0100 Attila Csosz wrote: > Hi, > > I'd like to install a minimal X window system with 'apt-get install', > with a simple window manager (for example icewm). How to do that? > I tried "apt-get install xserver-xorg xbase-clients xinit" but still > have a font problem (X exiting) > What is the simplest command for later use? > > Thanks Here's the fonts I've got on my system. I'm running as simply as I can, with openbox for a window manager (and lxpanel). Don't even have a "login manager" or whatever it's called. Just startx using .xsession. ii libxfont1 1:1.4.1-2 X11 font rasterisation library ii xfonts-100dpi 1:1.0.3 100 dpi fonts for X ii xfonts-base 1:1.0.3 standard fonts for X ii xfonts-encodings1:1.0.4-1 Encodings for X.Org fonts ii xfonts-mathml 4 Type1 Symbol font for MathML ii xfonts-utils1:7.6~1 X Window System font utility programs Brian -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20101231112400.6498d...@bamboo.deldotd.com
Re: insserv + apache2 + bind9 = pain
Andrei Popescu wrote: > Bob Proulx wrote: > > Mike Bird wrote: > > > But then they abuse the Debian packaging system by "requiring" > > > instead of "recommending" unnecessary packages so that people are > > > forced to use their silly hacks. > > > > The new APT default is that Recommends are the same as Requires and so > > a lot of unnecessary packages are now installed. Those should now be > > pushed into Suggests. > > Feel free to file bugs for every package which abuses Recommends. Beware > though, that Recommends, according to Policy, should be installed "on > all but unusual installations". The question is really one of philosophy. Do you start with a good foundation and then build upward? Or do you start with a large fully filled out structure and then remove the extraneous material? I am a builder and so desire starting small and then adding on as needed. But if you are a sculptor then you desire to start fully formed and to remove the material you don't want present. I realize that these two ideologies are in opposition. But I think one is more scalable than the other and more suitable for a universal operating system. Bob signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: installing X with apt-get
On Fri 31 Dec 2010 at 19:49:40 +0100, Attila Csosz wrote: > Hi, > > I'd like to install a minimal X window system with 'apt-get install', with a > simple window manager (for example icewm). How to do that? > I tried "apt-get install xserver-xorg xbase-clients xinit" but still have a > font problem (X exiting) > What is the simplest command for later use? I did something similar recently but without a window manager: apt-get install xserver-xorg-video-geode then apt-get install xinit followed by installing an X terminal-emulator. You will want something other than the geode server. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20101231191329.gf32...@desktop
Re: pci express wireless card doesn't show up in lspci
On Fri, 31 Dec 2010 11:19:14 -0800, briand wrote: > Hi all, > > the card is an Intel 3945ABG. > > not seeing it in the lspci listing. (...) Just in case, put the output of "lspci -nn | grep -i network" and "dmesg | grep -i network". Also: http://wiki.debian.org/iwlwifi Greetings, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/pan.2010.12.31.19.37...@gmail.com
Re: lenny to squeeze - key arrows not all working
On Fri, 31 Dec 2010 19:41:00 +0100, Filipe Freire wrote: > My keyboard, non usb, got its standard arrow key shortcuts disabled > after upgrade. Tested with a usb keyboard and there everything works > fine but that is not my keyboard so still need to solve this. Tried most > options with gnome keyboard shortcuts and gconf-editor. Is this now a > limitation form having a non usb keyboard? Any warning/error/unusual message in xorg's log file? cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log | grep -i xkb Greetings, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/pan.2010.12.31.19.46...@gmail.com
Re: pci express wireless card doesn't show up in lspci
On Fri, 31 Dec 2010 19:37:55 + (UTC) Camaleón wrote: > On Fri, 31 Dec 2010 11:19:14 -0800, briand wrote: > > > Hi all, > > > > the card is an Intel 3945ABG. > > > > not seeing it in the lspci listing. > > (...) > > Just in case, put the output of "lspci -nn | grep -i network" and > "dmesg | grep -i network". > > Also: > > http://wiki.debian.org/iwlwifi > > Greetings, > Good idea on the dmesg, I forgot about that ! Sadly the results are blank. My guess is broken bios. I'm working on downloading the latest. When I went through the bios set-up I saw nothing related to pci-express. I'll look again... Brian -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20101231115208.6386a...@bamboo.deldotd.com
Re: pci express wireless card doesn't show up in lspci
Dne, 31. 12. 2010 20:19:14 je bri...@aracnet.com napisal(a): Hi all, the card is an Intel 3945ABG. not seeing it in the lspci listing. the PCI express port IS showing up. The card could be bad, but it seems extremely unlikely as it's brand new. MB is an Intel Atom D945GSEJT. I haven't done anything with PCI express card before, just want to make sure that I'm not missing anything obvious. I can install the iwl3945 driver, but it doesn't say anything about detecting a card, and the card still doesn't show up even with the driver installed. I'm very suspicious that I've got something disabled somewhere... Thanks Brian BIOS? -- Cheerio, Klistvud http://bufferoverflow.tiddlyspot.com Certifiable Loonix User #481801 Please reply to the list, not to me. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1293825433.1409...@compax
Re: [OT] Stupid consumers and inferior hardware
On 12/31/2010 12:50 PM, bri...@aracnet.com wrote: On Thu, 30 Dec 2010 10:03:24 -0500 (EST) Stephen Powell wrote: Manufacturers are not doing this because the consumer wants it. They are doing it to cut costs. /snip/ they get away with it because most people run windows, the mfr provides the driver, and when it breaks, people expect it because it's windows. /snip/ You will always be in trouble with hardware under Linux because of the lack of mfr's drivers, and when they do provide drivers they are generally binary objects, e.g. NVIDIA. It's very frustrating, so I for one appreciate your rant :-) Brian Why does it bother you that the driver is a binary? Are you qualified to modify it if you had the source code? Certainly 99% of us are not, nor would we want to if we could. In the immortal words of Anne Landers, "If it ain't broke, don't fix it!" (I, for one, am very happy that NVIDIA provides the driver. I just installed a card with their GeForce code in it, and I needed the driver.) --doug -- Blessed are the peacemakers...for they shall be shot at from both sides. --A. M. Greeley -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4d1e383b.1030...@optonline.net
Re: permissions all zero when using 'cp'
On Thu, Dec 30, 2010 at 08:26:31PM +0100, Martin Lorenz wrote:
> stat64("testfile2", 0xbfffd7b0) = -1 ENOENT (No such file or
> directory)
>
> stat64("testfile1", {st_dev=makedev(144, 109), st_ino=37590572,
> st_mode=S_IFREG|S_ISUID|0450, st_nlink=1, st_uid=0, st_gid=0,
> st_blksize=4096, st_blocks=8, st_size=32, st_atime=2010/12/30-20:22:29,
> st_mtime=2010/12/30-20:22:29, st_ctime=2010/12/30-20:22:29}) = 0
>
> stat64("testfile2", 0xbfffd624) = -1 ENOENT (No such file or
> directory)
>
> open("testfile1", O_RDONLY|O_LARGEFILE) = 3
> open("testfile2", O_WRONLY|O_CREAT|O_EXCL|O_LARGEFILE, 0) = 4
>
I see a difference when I run the same commands.
root@/deb40a:~> (
env -i;
date > test1;
strace -v -e trace=file -o /tmp/cp.strace.out cp test1 test2;
cat /tmp/cp.strace.out;
umask; )
This is the strace output minus the environment:
access("/etc/ld.so.nohwcap", F_OK) = -1 ENOENT (No such file or directory)
access("/etc/ld.so.preload", R_OK) = -1 ENOENT (No such file or directory)
open("/etc/ld.so.cache", O_RDONLY) = 3
access("/etc/ld.so.nohwcap", F_OK) = -1 ENOENT (No such file or directory)
open("/lib/libacl.so.1", O_RDONLY) = 3
access("/etc/ld.so.nohwcap", F_OK) = -1 ENOENT (No such file or directory)
open("/lib/libc.so.6", O_RDONLY)= 3
access("/etc/ld.so.nohwcap", F_OK) = -1 ENOENT (No such file or directory)
open("/lib/libattr.so.1", O_RDONLY) = 3
lstat64("test2", 0xb790)= -1 ENOENT (No such file or directory)
stat64("test1", {st_dev=makedev(3, 1), st_ino=216364, st_mode=S_IFREG|0600,
st_nlink=1, st_uid=0, st_gid=0, st_blksize=4096, st_blocks=2, st_size=21,
st_atime=2010/12/31-09:04:24, st_mtime=2010/12/31-09:04:24,
st_ctime=2010/12/31-09:04:24}) = 0
open("test1", O_RDONLY|O_LARGEFILE) = 3
open("test2", O_WRONLY|O_CREAT|O_LARGEFILE, 0100600) = 4
0077
You may have trimmed the 'access' and 'open' statements from your post
but if you didn't and haven't built a static 'cp' then the version you're
running isn't accessing the libs.
When I run the same commands as user mike I see these diffs:
st_mode=S_IFREG|0644, st_uid=1000, st_gid=1000
open("test2", O_WRONLY|O_CREAT|O_LARGEFILE, 0100644) = 4
and umask is 0033.
The longer you run a cracked system the longer the cracker has to do
something you'll like even less.
If you've room the easiest way I've seen to recover is to re-install on
a newly created partition then compare the new to the old before
incorporating anything from the old into the new and NEVER boot the old
again.
Be sure to harden your system before putting the new one online since
someone already has the keys to your current system.
Use secure passwords, something like 'M05o05m41', your Mom's name
scrambled in with her birthday.
Good luck,
Mike
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Re: lenny to squeeze - key arrows not all working
Hi Peter, mouse keys is disable. Three of the arrow keys on the numbers keypad to the right of the keyboard are working. The plain four arrows keys are completely off. sigh... But you are right, if I enable mouse keys even those that worked before stop working. Best Filipe On Fri, Dec 31, 2010 at 8:04 PM, Peter Beck wrote: > On Fri, 2010-12-31 at 19:41 +0100, Filipe Freire wrote: > > got its standard arrow key shortcuts disabled after upgrade > > System -> Preferences -> Keyboard -> Mouse Keys is disabled ? > If the Mouse keys are enabled, the numberblock on the keyboard behaves > strange (imo)...maybe this is also affecting the arrowkeys ? > > Cheers > Peter > > > -- > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact > listmas...@lists.debian.org > Archive: > http://lists.debian.org/1293822271.13765.165.ca...@peanut.datentraeger.li > >
Re: lenny to squeeze - key arrows not all working
Hi Camaleón this is what I get with cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log | grep -i xkb (**) Option "xkb_rules" "evdev" (**) Option "xkb_model" "pc105" (**) Option "xkb_rules" "evdev" (**) Option "xkb_model" "pc105" (**) Option "xkb_rules" "evdev" (**) Option "xkb_model" "pc105" (**) Option "xkb_rules" "evdev" (**) Option "xkb_model" "pc105" Filipe On Fri, Dec 31, 2010 at 8:46 PM, Camaleón wrote: > On Fri, 31 Dec 2010 19:41:00 +0100, Filipe Freire wrote: > > > My keyboard, non usb, got its standard arrow key shortcuts disabled > > after upgrade. Tested with a usb keyboard and there everything works > > fine but that is not my keyboard so still need to solve this. Tried most > > options with gnome keyboard shortcuts and gconf-editor. Is this now a > > limitation form having a non usb keyboard? > > Any warning/error/unusual message in xorg's log file? > > cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log | grep -i xkb > > Greetings, > > -- > Camaleón > > > -- > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact > listmas...@lists.debian.org > Archive: http://lists.debian.org/pan.2010.12.31.19.46...@gmail.com > >
Re: pci express wireless card doesn't show up in lspci
On Fri, 31 Dec 2010 20:57:13 +0100 Klistvud wrote: > Dne, 31. 12. 2010 20:19:14 je bri...@aracnet.com napisal(a): > > Hi all, > > > > the card is an Intel 3945ABG. > > > > not seeing it in the lspci listing. > > > > the PCI express port IS showing up. > > > > The card could be bad, but it seems extremely unlikely as it's brand > > new. > > > > MB is an Intel Atom D945GSEJT. > > > > I haven't done anything with PCI express card before, just want to > > make > > sure that I'm not missing anything obvious. > > > > I can install the iwl3945 driver, but it doesn't say anything about > > detecting a card, and the card still doesn't show up even with the > > driver installed. > > > > I'm very suspicious that I've got something disabled somewhere... > > > > Thanks > > > > Brian > > > > BIOS? > YES ! Hidden in the depths of the mines of menus, past the balrog, I found an enable for the pci-express mini slot. It was set to disable. I enabled it. Works much better now :-) Brian -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20101231123801.6f12a...@bamboo.deldotd.com
Re: [OT] Stupid consumers and inferior hardware
On Fri, 31 Dec 2010 15:08:27 -0500 Doug wrote: > On 12/31/2010 12:50 PM, bri...@aracnet.com wrote: > > On Thu, 30 Dec 2010 10:03:24 -0500 (EST) > > Stephen Powell wrote: > > > >> Manufacturers are not doing this because the consumer wants it. > >> They are doing it to cut costs. > /snip/ > > they get away with it because most people run windows, the mfr > > provides the driver, and when it breaks, people expect it because > > it's windows. > > > /snip/ > > You will always be in trouble with hardware under Linux because of > > the lack of mfr's drivers, and when they do provide drivers they are > > generally binary objects, e.g. NVIDIA. > > > > It's very frustrating, so I for one appreciate your rant :-) > > > > Brian > > > > > Why does it bother you that the driver is a binary? Are you > qualified to modify it if you had the source code? Certainly 99% of > us are not, nor would we want to if we could. In the immortal words > of Anne Landers, "If it ain't broke, don't fix it!" > > (I, for one, am very happy that NVIDIA provides the driver. I just > installed a card with their GeForce code in it, and I needed the > driver.) > Having NVIDIA supply the driver, especially the accelerated 3D driver is, of course, better than nothing. yes i am capable of modifying drivers, and have done so, although not for video. however, making the source accessible speeds the fixing of bugs and generally makes the driver more robust. having source means not (necessarily) having to wait on nvidia to apply a patch. sometimes patches to fix a problem are very simple and even somebody not that familiar with the subsystem in question can fix it. when the graphic card, or any other hardware, gets old enough which is common for MANY linux systems, nvidia will stop fixing bugs completely for old cards. planned obscelence and all that. so having NVIDIA provide support is a good thing, but I think it's perfectly ok to be bothered by the fact that source is not available. don't forget you are discussing a video card. why do companies keep source "secret" for their old tech 10/100 cards. why do old tech, been around for 100 years cards have bugs in the first place ? They have bugs because they rev the silicon to save 0.005 on the price of the chip and then don't tell anybody. why don't they tell anybody ? because you're getting a binary driver from them for windows. lack of robustness is due to cost cutting and general ass-hattery on the part of the mfrs. it will always be thus unless source is available, or even better, open hardware. Brian -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20101231124806.76d22...@bamboo.deldotd.com
Re: insserv + apache2 + bind9 = pain
On Fri December 31 2010 11:24:34 Bob Proulx wrote: > The question is really one of philosophy. Do you start with a good > foundation and then build upward? Or do you start with a large fully > filled out structure and then remove the extraneous material? Harmful RECOMMENDS can at least be removed or blocked. When unnecessary and harmful packages are REQUIRED in order to satisfy some script kiddy's ego that's abuse of the packaging system. --Mike Bird -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/201012311305.02059.mgb-deb...@yosemite.net
Re: [OT] Stupid consumers and inferior hardware
Dne, 31. 12. 2010 21:08:27 je Doug napisal(a): On 12/31/2010 12:50 PM, bri...@aracnet.com wrote: On Thu, 30 Dec 2010 10:03:24 -0500 (EST) Stephen Powell wrote: Manufacturers are not doing this because the consumer wants it. They are doing it to cut costs. /snip/ they get away with it because most people run windows, the mfr provides the driver, and when it breaks, people expect it because it's windows. /snip/ You will always be in trouble with hardware under Linux because of the lack of mfr's drivers, and when they do provide drivers they are generally binary objects, e.g. NVIDIA. It's very frustrating, so I for one appreciate your rant :-) Brian Why does it bother you that the driver is a binary? Are you qualified to modify it if you had the source code? Certainly 99% of us are not, nor would we want to if we could. In the immortal words of Anne Landers, "If it ain't broke, don't fix it!" Precisely the problem. I had this problem with at least two pieces of hardware: - a Belkin PCMCIA wireless card that lost any support about 2 years after I purchased it. No Windows after XP support it. As opposed to that, I can easily make it work in Debian via ndiswrapper. Now just imagine if that driver wasn't binary: Linux volunteers would probably support it for another 10-20 years. - the in-built Broadcom wireless card in my laptop. Has been having problems from the very beginning. Uses a binary blob. In my experience, if there was no binary blob, and the development was handed over to the Linux community, the card would probably work without a hitch. Just my 2¢. YMMV I just don't TRUST proprietary developers. -- Cheerio, Klistvud http://bufferoverflow.tiddlyspot.com Certifiable Loonix User #481801 Please reply to the list, not to me. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1293830081.1409...@compax
Re: insserv + apache2 + bind9 = pain
On Fri December 31 2010 10:51:18 Arthur Machlas wrote: > As for all the talk of losing years of wisdom and bug squashing and > what-not, I'm not really sure that's the case, but a debate about the > worthiness of insserv as a successor to all the Snn Knn links is > probably better suited to another thread, perhaps one where more dev's > hang out than here on user. In any event, if you hope to convince > people of that, I think calling DD's "Script kiddies", especially one > who just resolved the bug you noted and I reported within about 12 > hrs, probably won't leave them too open to taking your position > seriously. Nobody has called the Apache2 maintainers "script kiddies". Most Debian Developers are excellent and dedicated to Debian rather than their own egos. It is the DD's work in developing the Snn/Knn values over many years that needs to be protected from randomization by the script kiddies. The script kiddies are those who abused the Debian packaging system to make sysv-rc REQUIRE the harmful and unnecessary insserv. --Mike Bird -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/201012311313.39902.mgb-deb...@yosemite.net
Re: Installed Debian today.
On Fri, Dec 31, 2010 at 10:09:00PM +0900, Miles Bader wrote: > Robert Holtzman writes: > >> LOL LTS is much buggy then non-LTS. 9.10 was the only stable version i have > >> used. > > > > That's the biggest bunch of BS I've seen in a long time. I've used the > > last 3 LTS releases and they have been completely stable. > > So your experience is different. Great. Mine and a few thousand others. > > > Your posts reflect several earmarks of a troll. > > and yours has several earmarks of an infuriated fanboy I'm no fanboy of any distro, let alone Ubuntu. I dual boot with Lenny and will probably go to squeeze as my primary when it's released. I don't like Shuttleworth's dictatorial attitude. Take a tip: don't jump to unwarranted conclusions. -- Bob Holtzman Key ID: 8D549279 "If you think you're getting free lunch, check the price of the beer" signature.asc Description: Digital signature
access point using 3945
Hello, looks like one good way to go about it is to use hostapd. however there's supposed to be nl80211 driver which I need. I can .h files when I search through debian, but no binary looking thingy, and the hostapd package does not contain it. Can anyone shed some light on this. Looks like the iwl3945 driver can NOT be used to operate as an access point. Thanks, Brian -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20101231140004.75642...@bamboo.deldotd.com
PostgreSQL+ZFS
Hi all, I have a large postgresql database system and I want to migrate to a new and fast storage system (10 Gbp/s FC network). But 150x3 ssd disk on my db server and I want to use ext4 file system (raid5) at the ssd disks as xlog storage or use zfs (raidz) as disk buffer cache. What is your idea? -- /** * @author Atıf CEYLAN * Software Developer& System Admin * http://www.atifceylan.com */ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4d1e6013.2010...@atifceylan.com
Re: [OT] Stupid consumers and inferior hardware
On Fri 31 Dec 2010 at 15:08:27 -0500, Doug wrote: > Why does it bother you that the driver is a binary? Are you qualified to > modify it if you had the source code? Maybe he could; maybe he couldn't. But somebody could. > Certainly 99% of us are not, nor would we want to if we could. Really? > In the immortal words of Anne Landers, "If it ain't broke, don't fix it!" 'Tis the season of non sequiturs. > (I, for one, am very happy that NVIDIA provides the driver. I just > installed a card with their GeForce code in it, and I needed the driver.) Everyone else is happy for you too. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20101231225010.gg32...@desktop
Re: [FIXED] saytime kills sound
Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote:
Camaleón wrote:
On Fri, 31 Dec 2010 11:42:42 +0100, Elimar Riesebieter wrote:
* Camaleón [101230 17:23 +]:
[...]
Nope, it's not even visible :-?
Don't bother us with wasteful stuff.
That sounds a bit rough... what do you exactly consider is "wasteful"
in helping people?
See [0]. Saytime is actually
unusable.
[0] http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=587124
Well, that can explain some things (distorted sound output) but once
you are stuck and lost your sound at all, it would be nice to know how
to restore it without the needing of restarting the system.
There is something funny going on: when you get the source you do not
get the Debian version: because that mentions using sox and there is no
sox call through execl in saytime.c.
So I took the source that one gets with 'apt-get source saytime' and
changed it:
1. Don't write to /dev/audio but use excl to call sox to write to /dev/dsp.
2. Generate the deb with 'dpkg-buildpackage -uc -us -rfakeroot' and then
execute the binary through the alsa-oss wrapper, like so: 'aoss saytime'
That says the time clearly and does not kill the sound.
I enclose the patch as an attachment, if such a thing is possible.
Hugo
--- saytime.c 2010-12-30 10:15:26.0 -0600
+++ /home/hugo/saytime.1.0-22.build/saytime-1.0/saytime.c 2010-12-31 17:04:54.0 -0600
@@ -12,6 +12,7 @@
*/
#include
+#include
#include
#include
#include
@@ -30,6 +31,7 @@
** Then use Sun's sound demo to dissect the lines into separate files.
** It's not really that much work, it took me about an hour.
*/
+#define MAX_STR_LEN 512
#define PH_ONE 1
#define PH_TWO 2
@@ -63,6 +65,7 @@
#define PH_SECONDS 30
void saynumber(), saydigit(), sayphrase(), sayfile(), sayclose();
+char * call_program_and_get_last_line_of_output (char *call);
main( argc, argv )
int argc;
@@ -387,60 +390,26 @@
char *filename;
{
int filefd;
-int r, w;
-unsigned char buf[1024];
char pathname[200];
-if ( audiofd == -1 )
- {
- audiofd = open( "/dev/audio", O_WRONLY | O_NDELAY );
- if ( audiofd < 0 )
- {
- perror( "opening /dev/audio" );
- exit( 1 );
- }
- }
+char parm1[200];
+char parm2[200];
-//(void) sprintf( pathname, "%s/%s", SOUND_DIR, filename );
(void) sprintf( pathname, "%s/%s", "/home/hugo/saytime.1.0-22.build/saytime-1.0/sounds", filename );
+
filefd = open( pathname, O_RDONLY );
-if ( filefd < 0 )
- {
+if ( filefd < 0 ) {
perror( "opening audio file" );
exit( 1 );
- }
+}
+close( filefd );
-for ( ; ; )
- {
- r = read( filefd, buf, sizeof(buf) );
- if ( r < 0 )
- {
- perror( "reading from audio file" );
- exit( 1 );
- }
- if ( r == 0 )
- break;
+sprintf(parm1,"cat %s | sox -t.ul - -t ossdsp /dev/dsp",pathname);
+sprintf(parm2,"%s",call_program_and_get_last_line_of_output(parm1));
- for ( ; ; )
- {
- w = write( audiofd, buf, r );
- if ( w < 0 )
- {
- perror( "writing to audio device" );
- exit( 1 );
- }
- if ( w != 0 )
- break;
- usleep( 1000 );
- }
- if ( w != r )
- {
- (void) fprintf( stderr, "read returned %d, write returned %d\n", r, w );
- exit( 1 );
- }
- }
-close( filefd );
-}
+usleep( 1000 );
+
+}
void
sayclose( )
@@ -449,3 +418,40 @@
close( audiofd );
audiofd = -1;
}
+
+/*
+ * *call_program_and_get_last_line_of_ouput() -- Hugo Rabson *
+ * *
+ * Purpose: Run a program. Save its last line of output. Return it. *
+ * Called by:... *
+ * Params: call call to executable w/params*
+ * Returns: char*pointer to static string containing last line *
+ *of output of executable (stdout+stderr)*
+ */
+
+char *
+call_program_and_get_last_line_of_output (char *call)
+{
+/** buffers **/
+static char result[MAX_STR_LEN];
+char tmp[MAX_STR_LEN];
+
+/** pointers */
+FILE *fin;
+
+/** initialize data **/
+result[0] = '\0';
+
+/***/
+if ((fin = popen (call, "r"))) {
+ for (fgets (tmp, MAX_STR_LEN, fin); !feof (fin); fgets (tmp, MAX_STR_LEN, fin)) {
+ if (strlen (tmp) > 1) {
+ strcpy (result, tmp);
+ }
+ }
+ pclose (fin);
+}
+// strip_spaces (result);
+return (result);
+}
+
Re: insserv + apache2 + bind9 = pain
On Fri, Dec 31, 2010 at 01:13:39PM -0800, Mike Bird wrote: > [...] > The script kiddies are those who abused the Debian packaging > system to make sysv-rc REQUIRE the harmful and unnecessary > insserv. By the way, apt-cache shows me for sysv-rc: Priority: required Depends: ... insserv ... And yet insserv has: Priority: optional Does that make sense? Not to a layman like me. Cheers, David -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20110101000135.ga4...@gennes.augarten
Re: installing X with apt-get
Attila Csosz wrote: > I'd like to install a minimal X window system with 'apt-get install', with a > simple window manager (for example icewm). How to do that? > I tried "apt-get install xserver-xorg xbase-clients xinit" but still have a > font problem (X exiting) > What is the simplest command for later use? I use icewm on a Lenny system. I installed two X packages and then icewm. apt-get install xserver-xorg-core apt-get install xfonts-base apt-get install icewm -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4d1e7b80.10...@legis.state.ak.us
Re: [OT] Stupid consumers and inferior hardware
On Fri, 31 Dec 2010 12:48:06 -0800 dijo: >On Fri, 31 Dec 2010 15:08:27 -0500 >Doug wrote: >> > You will always be in trouble with hardware under Linux because of >> > the lack of mfr's drivers, and when they do provide drivers they >> > are generally binary objects, e.g. NVIDIA. >> Why does it bother you that the driver is a binary? Are you >> qualified to modify it if you had the source code? Certainly 99% of >> us are not, nor would we want to if we could. > > >> (I, for one, am very happy that NVIDIA provides the driver. I just >> installed a card with their GeForce code in it, and I needed the >> driver.) >Having NVIDIA supply the driver, especially the accelerated 3D driver >is, of course, better than nothing. > >yes i am capable of modifying drivers, and have done so, although >not for video. however, making the source accessible speeds the fixing >of bugs and generally makes the driver more robust. > >having source means not (necessarily) having to wait on nvidia to apply >a patch. It will be a long time before I install an nVidia proprietary driver again. 1) I have a Thinkpad T61 with nVidia Quadro NVS 140M. I needed to do a presentation and the projector was capable of 1400x1050. For reasons not worth bothering with here, I needed every pixel I could get. I had been using the nouveau driver since installing the OS a year ago, but couldn't get it to give me the full resolution from the projector. I installed the nVidia driver instead, but it wouldn't work well either. Finally, I discovered how to get the proper resolution using the nouveau driver, so I uninstalled nVidia's driver and reinstalled nouveau. Going back to nouveau turned out to be a major PITA. I finally got the nouveau driver working again, and then later discovered that Fontmatrix, ksysguard, VirtualBox and Avidemux would not launch. The error message is that they are looking for an nVidia library. I have spent hours trying to figure out what makes those apps think there is an nVidia library, but have not yet succeeded. I reinstalled the nVidia driver and then the apps will launch, but I have to boot to safe mode and startx separately or it hangs on boot (two competing drivers). At the moment I am running the nouveau driver and hoping I won't need one of those apps until I can figure out what happened. 2) I have a desktop that started out with Intrepid, and I installed the nVidia driver for the GeForce 6150 chip on the motherboard. Everything was fine until I did several dist-upgrades to Lucid. Afterwards X would not start. I had to uninstall the proprietary drivers and install the nouveau drivers to get it to boot normally. I have upgraded dozens of computers with the nv and nouveau drivers and never had a problem. I don't generally have a problem with proprietary drivers, but it sure is easier figuring out and resolving a problem when the driver is open source. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20101231173328.68f26...@mailhost.pdx.edu
Re: permissions all zero when using 'cp'
Martin Lorenz writes:
>r...@vs152058:~# (
>> env -i
>> date -R > testfile1
>> ls -ldog testfile1
>> echo
>> rm -f testfile2
>> echo
>> cp testfile1 testfile2
>> ls -ldog testfile2
>> )
>- -r-Sr-x--- 1 32 30. Dez 20:22 testfile1
This is really wierd. Your testfile1 should not have been created with
these permissions. I dont know what would cause this apart from bugs or
some sort of corruption.
>stat64("testfile1", {st_dev=makedev(144, 109), st_ino=37590572,
>st_mode=S_IFREG|S_ISUID|0450, st_nlink=1, st_uid=0, st_gid=0,
>st_blksize=4096, st_blocks=8, st_size=32, st_atime=2010/12/30-20:22:29,
>st_mtime=2010/12/30-20:22:29, st_ctime=2010/12/30-20:22:29}) = 0
>stat64("testfile2", 0xbfffd624) = -1 ENOENT (No such file or
>directory)
>open("testfile1", O_RDONLY|O_LARGEFILE) = 3
>open("testfile2", O_WRONLY|O_CREAT|O_EXCL|O_LARGEFILE, 0) = 4
>does this tell you something?
It tells me why your testfile2 has zero permissions - because cp(1)
created it that way. The third argument to open(2) when used with
O_CREAT is the permissions to use on the new file (the kernel will apply
the umask).
cp(1) should have used a value of 0450 for that (since it uses the
source file permissions). I don't know why it used 0.
I'm sorry that I can't provide any answers. Maybe by pointing out these
anomalies, someone else may see what is wrong.
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Re: [OT] Stupid consumers and inferior hardware
John Jason Jordan wrote: > It will be a long time before I install an nVidia proprietary driver > again. > ... so I uninstalled nVidia's driver and reinstalled nouveau. Going > back to nouveau turned out to be a major PITA. ... > ... I have spent hours trying to figure out what makes those apps > think there is an nVidia library, You didn't say but I think from this I can tell that you installed the binary nvidia driver using the vendor nvidia installer. Which is different from installing the non-free Debian packaging of that same driver. The vendor installer doesn't track the files and therefore uninstalling is particularly a problem. There isn't a handle on what to remove. Unless extreme care is taken it is difficult to get back to the state from before the installation. That is one of the big advantages of installing using a package manager such as dpkg. When uninstalling the package the system state is returned to the known previous state. Bob signature.asc Description: Digital signature
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Re: Re: NAT
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imapget: an IMAP mail download and filter script
Hi all, I've cleaned up a perl script that I use to download mail from an IMAP server. It's now available to download from github: http://github.com/bolangi/imapget Why bother? - simple, lightweight + single script alternative to fetchmail/procmail + doesn't use a .forward file + independent of local mail system - arbitrary filtering rules - filtering rules in perl syntax (a plus for some people) - whitelist for personal mail - delivers to mbox or Maildir folders - skips duplicate messages - can connect to server via SSL - moves downloaded messages to server Trash folder - logging What it doesn't do out of the box: - spam filtering - POP3 Other considerations: - no config files - all configuration is by editing the source code Acknowledgment: based on the popget script by Simon Cozens Cheers (and wishing you a Happy New Year) -- Joel Roth -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20110101064200.ga18...@sprite
