Re: vbox loop in aptitude
On 07/04/2010 02:00 AM, Andrei Popescu wrote: On Vi, 02 iul 10, 17:04:48, Paul Scott wrote: Debian sid: There are several vbox packages available for update. When I choose any one of those to update in aptitude I get what seems to be an unending loop while aptitude attempts to resolve the dependencies. Please post the output of 'aptitude full-upgrade' Several messages go by and are erased and then it never returns. (as if is is in a loop) I redirected the output to a file and the file contains: Reading package lists... Building dependency tree... Reading state information... Reading extended state information... Initializing package states... Reading task descriptions... after terminating with Ctrl-C This happens on two machines both of which are updated frequently Thanks, Paul -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4c31865b.5050...@ultrasw.com
Re: vbox loop in aptitude
On Lu, 05 iul 10, 00:14:35, Paul Scott wrote: > On 07/04/2010 02:00 AM, Andrei Popescu wrote: > >On Vi, 02 iul 10, 17:04:48, Paul Scott wrote: > >>Debian sid: > >> > >>There are several vbox packages available for update. When I choose > >>any one of those to update in aptitude I get what seems to be an > >>unending loop while aptitude attempts to resolve the dependencies. > > > >Please post the output of 'aptitude full-upgrade' > > Several messages go by and are erased and then it never returns. > (as if is is in a loop) > > I redirected the output to a file and the file contains: > > Reading package lists... > Building dependency tree... > Reading state information... > Reading extended state information... > Initializing package states... > Reading task descriptions... > > after terminating with Ctrl-C This doesn't help :( Try running aptitude from command line in some xterm with a big enough scroll buffer. Regards, Andrei -- Offtopic discussions among Debian users and developers: http://lists.alioth.debian.org/mailman/listinfo/d-community-offtopic signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: vbox loop in aptitude
On 07/05/2010 12:40 AM, Andrei Popescu wrote: On Lu, 05 iul 10, 00:14:35, Paul Scott wrote: On 07/04/2010 02:00 AM, Andrei Popescu wrote: On Vi, 02 iul 10, 17:04:48, Paul Scott wrote: Debian sid: There are several vbox packages available for update. When I choose any one of those to update in aptitude I get what seems to be an unending loop while aptitude attempts to resolve the dependencies. Please post the output of 'aptitude full-upgrade' Several messages go by and are erased and then it never returns. (as if is is in a loop) I redirected the output to a file and the file contains: Reading package lists... Building dependency tree... Reading state information... Reading extended state information... Initializing package states... Reading task descriptions... after terminating with Ctrl-C This doesn't help :( Try running aptitude from command line in some xterm with a big enough scroll buffer. I did run it in an xterm. There is no more output. I'm still guessing it's in a loop trying to find a solution to a dependency problem. I have seen other dependency situations where there is a definite pause while a solution is calculated. Neither of my machines is super fast. Thanks, Paul -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4c318eeb.9010...@ultrasw.com
Re: Re: Network crashes under heavy load
Thanks for replying. To answer your questions - I couldn't find anything unusual in the logs, the first message around the time of the crash was the shutdown message when I pressed the power button. I have a PCI realtek card I could try with, I think it's a different chipset so I'll try with that, no switch and a different cable when I get home later. Sorry, I should have been more specific - it usually happens after copying tens of GB but it seems random because it survives more sometimes. For example I was backing up a number of large files (about 40GB total) which caused a crash the first time I tried, halfway through copying a file but everything copied fine after a reboot. Also running iperf about ten times caused another crash but again this seems variable. An Intel NIC would usually be my first choice but since this board has no PCIe slots I'm hesitant to use a PCI NIC if it's going to limit network bandwidth. I hope that answers all your questions and I'll try updating BIOS, drivers and run those tests when I get home. Thanks -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/aanlktilt2xbw_cziysxbbiwikmk8__h_vbketuywi...@mail.gmail.com
USB connection to Cablemodem, cdc_ether, resolvconf?
Hi, I have connected my Debian GNU/Linux Lenny through USB to my Cablemodem. My kernel is linux-image-2.6.26-1-686. I'm trying to setup my eth0 network interface. It should have a static and public IP address. I have setup eth0 network interface as static in interfaces file: [snip..] auto lo eth0 iface lo inte loopback iface eth0 inet static address 217.17.111.164 netmask 255.255.255.0 [..snip] I have loaded kernel modules for USB-Ethernet card: lsmod gives me the following: [snip..] ... cdc_ether 4672 0 usbnet14024 1 cdc_ether ... [..snip] I run resolvconf to setup nameservers: # cat file_with_nameservers | resolvconf -a eth0 so after this command abowe I get the file: /etc/resolvconf/run/interface/eth0 with nameservers. Still I can't reach the Internet: ping www.google.com However after a reboot this file: /etc/resolvconf/run/interface/eth0 missing. What am I missing here? How can I setup Nameservers? Any advices will be appreciated! -- Regards, Paul Chany You can freely correct my English. http://csanyi-pal.info -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/8739vyp4oo@debian-laptop.localdomain
Re: CUPS: why can `Media Source' be `CD or DVD tray'?
Sure, but do they accept a CD or a DVD directly into a special tray?! Erwan David wrote: > On 03/07/10 22:21, Merciadri Luca wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> For a printer, why can `Media Source' be `CD or DVD tray'? If I >> understand it well, `Media Source' specifies where the paper to print on >> is. (Or how could the paper be in the CD or DVD tray?) >> >> > > Some printers can print on special CD or DVD. > -- Merciadri Luca See http://www.student.montefiore.ulg.ac.be/~merciadri/ I use PGP. If there is an incompatibility problem with your mail client, please contact me. signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: USB peripherals are plugged in across time: how are /dev/ttyUSBx assignations done?
Because if I can know it by theory, it avoids me `practice.' :) Lisi wrote: > On Sunday 04 July 2010 13:06:51 Merciadri Luca wrote: > >> Let's say that you progressively plug in USB peripherals in(to) USB >> ports of one computer running Debian. How are the /dev/ttyUSB0, >> /dev/ttyUSB1, etc., assignations achieved? Is /dev/ttyUSB0 the first >> plugged device, or is it one in a specific port? Thanks. >> > > Why not just suck it and see? > -- Merciadri Luca See http://www.student.montefiore.ulg.ac.be/~merciadri/ I use PGP. If there is an incompatibility problem with your mail client, please contact me. The exception proves the rule. signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: USB peripherals are plugged in across time: how are /dev/ttyUSBx assignations done?
Celejar wrote: > Not sure what kind of peripherals you have in mind, but they generally > won't get ttyUSBn addresses, unless they're USB-serial converters, > which contain chips meant to provide a serial / TTY interface to the > system. > And which addresses would they get, if they were not using /dev/ttyUSBx? > In any event, I'm pretty sure that the system will assign an available > address, generally independent of the port, unless you have a udev rule > telling it otherwise. > Okay. -- Merciadri Luca See http://www.student.montefiore.ulg.ac.be/~merciadri/ I use PGP. If there is an incompatibility problem with your mail client, please contact me. If it's too good to be true, then it probably is. signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: CUPS: why can `Media Source' be `CD or DVD tray'?
On Mon, Jul 05, 2010 at 01:09:48PM CEST, Merciadri Luca said: > Sure, but do they accept a CD or a DVD directly into a special tray?! > > Erwan David wrote: > > On 03/07/10 22:21, Merciadri Luca wrote: > > > >> Hi, > >> > >> For a printer, why can `Media Source' be `CD or DVD tray'? If I > >> understand it well, `Media Source' specifies where the paper to print on > >> is. (Or how could the paper be in the CD or DVD tray?) > >> > >> > > > > Some printers can print on special CD or DVD. > > > > I've seen some which have a special tray for the CD/DVD. It's easier for centering. -- Erwan -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20100705114341.gb30...@trusted-logic.com
Scim and iceweasel
I am currently running debian (amd64) testing with some packages from sid. It is stable for my work purposes. I frequently have to input indic characters and scim is my preferred input method. I have set the input method to scim using im-switch. I can only use it in gnome-terminal that too by right-click->Input Methods->scim. This does not work in OpenOffice or Iceweasel. On another machine the same set of packages gives me scim as the default input method for gnome-terminal, OO and iceweasel. My question, how can I make iceweasel, OO and other packages like inkscape to use scim as the default input method? Regards, -- Sridhar M.A. GPG KeyID : F6A35935 Fingerprint: D172 22C4 7CDC D9CD 62B5 55C1 2A69 D5D8 F6A3 5935 Heller's Law: The first myth of management is that it exists. Johnson's Corollary: Nobody really knows what is going on anywhere within the organization. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20100705115111.ga4...@brahman.maisuru.org
Re: CUPS: why can `Media Source' be `CD or DVD tray'?
Erwan David wrote: > On Mon, Jul 05, 2010 at 01:09:48PM CEST, Merciadri Luca > said: > >> Sure, but do they accept a CD or a DVD directly into a special tray?! >> >> Erwan David wrote: >> >>> On 03/07/10 22:21, Merciadri Luca wrote: >>> >>> Hi, For a printer, why can `Media Source' be `CD or DVD tray'? If I understand it well, `Media Source' specifies where the paper to print on is. (Or how could the paper be in the CD or DVD tray?) >>> Some printers can print on special CD or DVD. >>> >>> >> > > I've seen some which have a special tray for the CD/DVD. > It's easier for centering. > I understand it better now. I've never seen such printers, and this is where my reaction came from. -- Merciadri Luca See http://www.student.montefiore.ulg.ac.be/~merciadri/ I use PGP. If there is an incompatibility problem with your mail client, please contact me. Don't try to teach a pig to sing. It doesn't work, and you'll annoy the pig. signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: Scim and iceweasel
On Mon, Jul 05, 2010 at 17:21 +0530, Sridhar M.A. wrote: > My question, how can I make iceweasel, OO and other packages like > inkscape to use scim as the default input method? Yeah, I know that problem. Take a look at: /usr/share/doc/scim/README.Debian.gz which explains the whole situation in great detail. In particular the sections "Autostart SCIM" and "Helper packages" are relevant. Good luck Wolodja -- .''`. Wolodja Wentland : :' : `. `'` 4096R/CAF14EFC `- 081C B7CD FF04 2BA9 94EA 36B2 8B7F 7D30 CAF1 4EFC signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: CUPS: why can `Media Source' be `CD or DVD tray'?
On Mon, Jul 5, 2010 at 7:09 AM, Merciadri Luca wrote: > Sure, but do they accept a CD or a DVD directly into a special tray?! As I mentioned in my earlier post, one example is Epson Stylus. Like here (note point 5, where they talk about the tray): http://www.epson.com/cgi-bin/Store/support/supDetail.jsp?BV_UseBVCookie=yes&infoType=FAQ&oid=29081&prodoid=37368464&foid=97769 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/aanlktildh-fj5yao_fk6re3exkxzjwkukzqo5m5dd...@mail.gmail.com
Re: USB peripherals are plugged in across time: how are /dev/ttyUSBx assignations done?
On Sunday 04 July 2010 13:06:51 Merciadri Luca wrote: > Hi, > > Let's say that you progressively plug in USB peripherals in(to) USB > ports of one computer running Debian. How are the /dev/ttyUSB0, > /dev/ttyUSB1, etc., assignations achieved? Is /dev/ttyUSB0 the first > plugged device, or is it one in a specific port? Thanks. Managed to send my reply to Merciadri alone, again. Sorry, Merciadri. I have to change the habit of years and press "l" (ell) instead of clicking reply. :-( My reply was: Why not just suck it and see? Lisi -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/201007051449.29204.lisi.re...@gmail.com
Re: USB peripherals are plugged in across time: how are /dev/ttyUSBx assignations done?
On Mon, 05 Jul 2010 13:17:11 +0200, Merciadri Luca wrote: > Celejar wrote: >> Not sure what kind of peripherals you have in mind, but they generally >> won't get ttyUSBn addresses, unless they're USB-serial converters, >> which contain chips meant to provide a serial / TTY interface to the >> system. >> > And which addresses would they get, if they were not using /dev/ttyUSBx? Block devices (external DVD players or hard disks, USB flash, digital still cameras, voice recorders and many, many devices...) do not create "/ dev/ttyUSBx" but get mounted under "/media" (that is, standard "/dev/sdx" naming). Modems (gsm/umts/dial-up) devices and printers do it that way (in fact, anything that emulates the "serial" port). Greetings, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/pan.2010.07.05.14.15...@gmail.com
Could a Lenny upgrade break GnuCash 2.2.6-2?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 The version of GnuCash provided with Lenny is 2.2.6-2, maintained by Thomas Bushnell. I have been using this GnuCash version for two years, but after a Lenny upgrade I did yesterday it would no longer load. Included in that upgrade was replacement of libglib2.0-0 version 2.16.0 to version 2.22.4-1 from Lenny-backports. While GnuCash 2.2.6-2 calls for libglib2.0-0 equal to or higher than 2.16.0 -- the version from the Lenny repository -- it is possible that 2.22.4 could be too advanced for GnuCash 2.2.6-2? As I see it I have two options: 1. Reinstall the 2.16.0 version of libglib2.0-0, to see whether GnuCash will install again; or 2. Install the latest stable version of GnuCash -- 2.2.9 -- to see whether it will deign to run with version 2.22.4-1 of libglib2.0-0. The disadvantages of (1) are that it may break other packages which now require libglib2.0-0 2.22.4-1 after the upgrade, and that I would have to learn how to replace a higher version of a package with a lower one without having aptitude remove all other packages which depend on libglib2.0-0. The disadvantage of (2) is that as GnuCash 2.2.9 is apparently only available in source form, and I do not (yet?) know how to compile. I would appreciate comments, advice, etc. Also, does anybody know whether GnuCash 2.2.9 is available compiled as a Debian Lenny package? Regards, Ken Heard -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.9 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEARECAAYFAkwx62AACgkQlNlJzOkJmTdqyQCdGSQgk/EeRl15TUZmX46rGQZr SY8An2peYWkRYELQi8XGwUvPsZG/18tT =nYnv -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4c31eb61@heard.name
Re: Could a Lenny upgrade break GnuCash 2.2.6-2?
On Mon, 2010-07-05 at 10:25 -0400, Ken Heard wrote:
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> The version of GnuCash provided with Lenny is 2.2.6-2, maintained by
> Thomas Bushnell. I have been using this GnuCash version for two years,
> but after a Lenny upgrade I did yesterday it would no longer load.
>
> Included in that upgrade was replacement of libglib2.0-0 version 2.16.0
> to version 2.22.4-1 from Lenny-backports. While GnuCash 2.2.6-2 calls
> for libglib2.0-0 equal to or higher than 2.16.0 -- the version from the
> Lenny repository -- it is possible that 2.22.4 could be too advanced for
> GnuCash 2.2.6-2?
>
> As I see it I have two options:
>
> 1. Reinstall the 2.16.0 version of libglib2.0-0, to see whether
> GnuCash will install again; or
>
> 2. Install the latest stable version of GnuCash -- 2.2.9 -- to see
> whether it will deign to run with version 2.22.4-1 of libglib2.0-0.
>
> The disadvantages of (1) are that it may break other packages which now
> require libglib2.0-0 2.22.4-1 after the upgrade, and that I would have
> to learn how to replace a higher version of a package with a lower one
> without having aptitude remove all other packages which depend on
> libglib2.0-0.
>
> The disadvantage of (2) is that as GnuCash 2.2.9 is apparently only
> available in source form, and I do not (yet?) know how to compile.
>
> I would appreciate comments, advice, etc. Also, does anybody know
> whether GnuCash 2.2.9 is available compiled as a Debian Lenny package?
>
> Regards, Ken Heard
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Yes, indeed it breaks. We learned that the hard way. We repackaged it
using the newer source. I do not know how we submit such repacking for
backports but here are the steps we took to make it happen (edited to
protect internal information:
As root, install the needed packages for building
apt-get -t lenny-backports install devscripts build-essential
Edit /etc/apt/sources.list by adding a Lenny Backports source repository such
as the following:
deb-src http://www.backports.org/debian/ lenny-backports main contrib non-free
Make apt aware of the repository:
apt-get update
Other steps MUST not be done by root so we need another user console to do the
following steps.
We will need the 2.2.6 source deb to have all the various settings and options
used by debian.
These will be in the debian directory and is really all we need from the source
deb. We will store this in gnucash-2.2.6
We will also need the 2.2.9 source tarball. We will store this in gnucash
which will become the deb build directory
mkdir /download/gnucash
mkdir /download/gnucash-2.2.6
cd /download/gnucash-2.2.6
apt-get -t lenny-backports source gnucash gnucash-common
We need to install dependencies and this must be done as root so return to the
root console and do:
cd /download/gnucash-2.2.6
apt-get -t lenny-backports build-dep gnucash gnucash-common
Return to the user console
cd /download/gnucash
wget http://www.gnucash.org/pub/gnucash/sources/stable/gnucash-2.2.9.tar.bz2
tar jfvx gnucash-2.2.9.tar.bz2
mv gnucash{-,_}2.2.9.tar.bz2
mv gnucash_2.2.9{,.orig}.tar.bz2 - This is the name format debuild will expect
cd gnucash-2.2.9
cp -r ../../gnucash-2.2.6/gnucash-2.2.6/debian ./
cd debian
The changelog is more than information; it is critical for debuild processing.
Add something similar to the following at the top (the syntax is very fussy)
gnucash (2.2.9-0) stable; urgency=high
* 2.2.6 segfaults with libglib from lenny-backports
-- John Sullivan Sat, 27 Mar 2010 19:18:00 -0500
Edit the control file and edit the two Replaces lines so they read:
Replaces: gnucash-common (<< 2.2.6-3)
Replaces: gnucash (<< 2.2.6-3)
Edit the files file so it reads:
gnucash-common_2.2.9-0_all.deb gnome optional
gnucash_2.2.9-0_amd64.deb gnome optional
debuild will complain about the -0 but I do not want to give it -1 in case the
real 2.2.9 package is -1 when it is released.
cd ..
debuild -us -uc
cd ..
The two .deb files should be in this directory and can be installed where needed
Any corrections to the process are welcome as I am by no means an
expert. Hope this helps - John
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Re: delay shutdown while backup (rsnapshot) is running
* Fabian Kürten (2010-07-01):
[...]
> Now my question: How can I prevent/delay the shutdown while rsnapshot is
> running. For your information, I am using gnome, so a solution working
> only for shutdowns via gnome system menu would be sufficient.
How does that system work?
You could run a shell script that checks for the rsnapshot process or
PID file. The script could either quit or loop when this is the case.
-snip
#!/bin/sh
#/usr/local/sbin/shutdown.sh
#detect rsnapshot process and exit
pidof rsnapshot && echo "Shutdown cancelled" || shutdown -h now
#alternatively, use the PID file, and loop in a 10 min. interval
[ ! -e /var/run/rsnapshot.pid ] && RSNAPSHOT="0" || RSNAPSHOT="1"
while [ "${RSNAPSHOT}" == "1" ] ; do
[ ! -e /var/run/rsnapshot.pid ] && RSNAPSHOT="0" && break || sleep 600
done
shutdown -h now
-snap
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Re: USB peripherals are plugged in across time: how are /dev/ttyUSBx assignations done?
Camaleón wrote: > On Mon, 05 Jul 2010 13:17:11 +0200, Merciadri Luca wrote: > > >> Celejar wrote: >> >>> Not sure what kind of peripherals you have in mind, but they generally >>> won't get ttyUSBn addresses, unless they're USB-serial converters, >>> which contain chips meant to provide a serial / TTY interface to the >>> system. >>> >>> >> And which addresses would they get, if they were not using /dev/ttyUSBx? >> > > Block devices (external DVD players or hard disks, USB flash, digital > still cameras, voice recorders and many, many devices...) do not create "/ > dev/ttyUSBx" but get mounted under "/media" (that is, standard "/dev/sdx" > naming). > > Modems (gsm/umts/dial-up) devices and printers do it that way (in fact, > anything that emulates the "serial" port). > Thanks, but I should have mentioned that I'm here speaking about non-block devices (such as data probes, etc.). Are they automatically recognized and set up as /dev/ttyUSBx? -- Merciadri Luca See http://www.student.montefiore.ulg.ac.be/~merciadri/ I use PGP. If there is an incompatibility problem with your mail client, please contact me. signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: USB peripherals are plugged in across time: how are /dev/ttyUSBx assignations done?
Lisi wrote: > On Sunday 04 July 2010 13:06:51 Merciadri Luca wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> Let's say that you progressively plug in USB peripherals in(to) USB >> ports of one computer running Debian. How are the /dev/ttyUSB0, >> /dev/ttyUSB1, etc., assignations achieved? Is /dev/ttyUSB0 the first >> plugged device, or is it one in a specific port? Thanks. >> > > Managed to send my reply to Merciadri alone, again. Sorry, Merciadri. I > have > to change the habit of years and press "l" (ell) instead of clicking > reply. :-( > > My reply was: > > Why not just suck it and see? No problem. I could do it, but I thought such behaviors were already pre-defined by the kernel's implementation, weren't they? -- Merciadri Luca See http://www.student.montefiore.ulg.ac.be/~merciadri/ I use PGP. If there is an incompatibility problem with your mail client, please contact me. signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: how to set port speed for a GPRS connection
On Sun, 04 Jul 2010 17:43:31 -0400, Long Wind wrote: > I have a GPRS connection > In Nokia suite in Windows, it claims the speed is about 460kbps In > pppconfig how to set port speed? "setserial" could do that but I'm not sure why you should change this value. Have you made any test speed for you connection? For example: http://www.speedtest.net/ Anyway, GPRS link is indeed very slow for today bandwith requirements :-( Greetings, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/pan.2010.07.05.16.48...@gmail.com
Re: USB peripherals are plugged in across time: how are /dev/ttyUSBx assignations done?
On Mon, 05 Jul 2010 18:28:55 +0200, Merciadri Luca wrote: > Camaleón wrote: (...) >> Modems (gsm/umts/dial-up) devices and printers do it that way (in fact, >> anything that emulates the "serial" port). >> > Thanks, but I should have mentioned that I'm here speaking about > non-block devices (such as data probes, etc.). Are they automatically > recognized and set up as /dev/ttyUSBx? Being (or configured to be) a "serial" device, yes. Greetings, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/pan.2010.07.05.16.49...@gmail.com
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Re: USB connection to Cablemodem, cdc_ether, resolvconf?
On Lu, 05 iul 10, 13:07:51, Paul Chany wrote: > > I have loaded kernel modules for USB-Ethernet card: > lsmod gives me the following: > [snip..] > ... > cdc_ether 4672 0 > usbnet14024 1 cdc_ether > ... > [..snip] > > I run resolvconf to setup nameservers: > # cat file_with_nameservers | resolvconf -a eth0 > > so after this command abowe I get the file: > /etc/resolvconf/run/interface/eth0 > > with nameservers. resolvconf is not meant to be used "by hand", you have to add nameservers 8.8.8.8 or whatever to /etc/network/interfaces Note: "nameservers" (ending with s) is not a typo, because you can specify several nameservers (three?) separated by spaces > Still I can't reach the Internet: > ping www.google.com Can you ping outside addresses (for example the nameserver itself) by IP? Please also show the output of 'ifconfig -a' after loading the modules above. Regards, Andrei -- Offtopic discussions among Debian users and developers: http://lists.alioth.debian.org/mailman/listinfo/d-community-offtopic signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Could a Lenny upgrade break GnuCash 2.2.6-2?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 John A. Sullivan III wrote: > On Mon, 2010-07-05 at 10:25 -0400, Ken Heard wrote: > The version of GnuCash provided with Lenny is 2.2.6-2, maintained by > Thomas Bushnell. I have been using this GnuCash version for two years, > but after a Lenny upgrade I did yesterday it would no longer load. > Yes, indeed it breaks. We learned that the hard way. We repackaged it > using the newer source. I do not know how we submit such repacking for > backports but here are the steps we took to make it happen (edited to > protect internal information: Thanks John for the instructions for compiling a replacement for GnuCash 2.6.2-2. I shall make the compilations later today or tomorrow and report the results. Regards, Ken Heard -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.9 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEARECAAYFAkwyFlsACgkQlNlJzOkJmTfafACaA9fRQ62xZwPTDjXfpJbUYXUR 8nQAnjeclyFeYKJ0vciHXBixk8aAcwgT =HL/Z -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4c32165c.1070...@heard.name
Re: GnuCash won't open after transferring data files from one box to another (2)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Geert Janssens wrote: > Something in your datafile is clearly upsetting gnucash. Can you open any > other gnucash file ? I don't have any other GnuCash data file. > Also, you could try and open the backup files (the ones named > /home/ken/accounts/ken09/ken09.gnc..xac) from most recent to > less recent and see where the problem starts. I tried what you suggested. The only difference between using the main data file (ken09.gnc) and the .xac files it that the former crashes and returns a segmentation fault as soon as it opens. The .xac files do not crash and report a segmentation fault until I try to open an account. However, I did post to the Debian user list about the possibility of a Debian Lenny upgrade breaking GnuCash 2.2.6-2, and received confirmation that such was indeed the case. I was given instructions how to compile GnuCash 2.2.9 as a Debian package which deals with the package incompatibility I raised in my third post to this thread. I will do the compilation later today or tomorrow and report the results. Thanks for you help so far. Regards, Ken Heard -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.9 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEARECAAYFAkwyGMMACgkQlNlJzOkJmTfoRACeLZt4I6KcnHrPBnqB/79BUpVm G0IAnREnknaRGj1Dr71fODV2SWltN3kj =CDuw -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4c3218c5.1010...@heard.name
Re: USB connection to Cablemodem, cdc_ether, resolvconf?
Andrei Popescu writes: > On Lu, 05 iul 10, 13:07:51, Paul Chany wrote: >> >> I have loaded kernel modules for USB-Ethernet card: >> lsmod gives me the following: >> [snip..] >> ... >> cdc_ether 4672 0 >> usbnet14024 1 cdc_ether >> ... >> [..snip] >> >> I run resolvconf to setup nameservers: >> # cat file_with_nameservers | resolvconf -a eth0 >> >> so after this command abowe I get the file: >> /etc/resolvconf/run/interface/eth0 >> >> with nameservers. > > resolvconf is not meant to be used "by hand", you have to add > > nameservers 8.8.8.8 > > or whatever to /etc/network/interfaces > Note: "nameservers" (ending with s) is not a typo, because you can > specify several nameservers (three?) separated by spaces Aha, so here goes nameservers definitions on Debian Lenny? I remember on Debian Etch I used for this /etc/resolv.conf file. So the form is: nameservers 2.2.2.2 3.3.3.3 4.4.4.4 ?? >> Still I can't reach the Internet: >> ping www.google.com > > Can you ping outside addresses (for example the nameserver itself) by > IP? No. > Please also show the output of 'ifconfig -a' after loading the modules > above. I can't to paste here the exact ouput of 'ifconfig -a' command but have the following interfaces: lo, eth0 & eth1. I use another PC Box to mail here for help. So I find the cause of my problem, I think! eth1 is the usb-ethernet device and not eth0. eth0 is there because I used it when I installed on this PC Box the present Debian Lenny system, but through an Ethernet card. But now I want to configure this Box through USB port of a Cable modem, so that's why is there the eth1 interface. So, when I give today morning the MAC address to my ISP, I give the Ethernet card MAC address, instead of the USB-Ethernet aka eth1 MAC address to associate it with my new static, public IP address! I will correct this soon as possyble (here was a storm and my ISP is busy now ;). -- Regards, Paul Chany You can freely correct my English. http://csanyi-pal.info -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/87bpaloln0@debian-laptop.localdomain
password memory
I have a Win2K machine and a linux sqeeze machine both running mozella 5.0 (Firefox and Iceweasel). The Win2K machine remembers password inromation to my Amazon.com account (as an example) but the linux machine doesn't. I've checked all of the mozella settings and can't find any difference. Any suggestions. I need to get this resolved so I can ditch the Win2K machine. Thanks in advance Gary R. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4c321a4e.8040...@verizon.net
Re: USB connection to Cablemodem, cdc_ether, resolvconf?
On Lu, 05 iul 10, 19:59:15, Paul Chany wrote: > > Aha, so here goes nameservers definitions on Debian Lenny? > I remember on Debian Etch I used for this /etc/resolv.conf file. Only if you use (a.k.a. install) the resolvconf package. You can still use /etc/resolv.conf, if you uninstall resolvconf and you are 100% sure no other program is touching it (pppd, dhcp clients, ...). Using resolvconf makes more sense to me even for static configs, since you configure everything about the network in only one file (/etc/network/interfaces). Regards, Andrei -- Offtopic discussions among Debian users and developers: http://lists.alioth.debian.org/mailman/listinfo/d-community-offtopic signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: J-Pilot and Handspring Visor
On Sun, Jul 04, 2010 at 17:18:24 -0700, Marc Shapiro wrote: > From: Florian Kulzer [...] > This is the output from dmesg: > > [637797.771076] usb 2-3.1: New USB device found, idVendor=082d, idProduct=0100 > [637797.771083] usb 2-3.1: New USB device strings: Mfr=1, Product=2, > SerialNumber=0 > [637797.771087] usb 2-3.1: Product: Handspring Visor > [637797.771090] usb 2-3.1: Manufacturer: Handspring Inc It does not report the creation of any device node; that is not good. (All the udev debugging tricks that I know require that I have at least one basic kernel name or subsystem path device node to start with.) > >> How do I set up udev to create /dev/pilot when the hotsync button on > >> the cradle is pressed? Does pressing the hotsync button when the visor is connected produce anything in the logs? (Note that I do not know much about this device; I am mostly trying to come up with suggestions based on what I know about the kernel and udev in general.) > > The first step is to check if your combination of USB vendor and USB > > device ID is listed in one of the alias lines of "modinfo visor". Udev > > tricks will most likely be useless if the kernel module does not > > recognize your device as being supported. > > This is from the output from 'modinfo visor' (a command of which I was not > aware. Thanks, Florian): > > filename: > /lib/modules/2.6.32-bpo.3-686/kernel/drivers/usb/serial/visor.ko > license:GPL > description:USB HandSpring Visor / Palm OS driver > author: Greg Kroah-Hartman > alias: usb:v0E67p0002d*dc*dsc*dp*ic*isc*ip* > > alias: usb:v082Dp0100d*dc*dsc*dp*ic*isc*ip* > depends:usbserial,usbcore > vermagic: 2.6.32-bpo.3-686 SMP mod_unload modversions 686 > parm: debug:Debug enabled or not (bool) > parm: stats:Enables statistics or not (bool) > parm: vendor:User specified vendor ID (ushort) > parm: product:User specified product ID (ushort) > > That last alias line matches the vendor and product ID, so that looks > good. So, is there a way to have udev created /dev/pilot when the > hotsync button is pressed? The main question is if any device node is created at all; if I remember your previous message correctly, you said that not even a /dev/ttyUSBx appears after you plug in the visor. That looks like a problem with the kernel module to me, even though it should know your device based on the modinfo-alias output. I propose to do the following: Run "tail -fn0 /var/log/syslog" in one terminal window so that you see all new syslog messages (until you hit CTRL-C to exit.) Then you can use another terminal window to try: - Load the visor module with debugging enabled "modprobe visor debug=1" and then plug in the device. - Tell the visor module explicitly that it should operate your device: "modprobe visor debug=1 vendor=0x082d product=0x0100". I would try both loading the module with these parameters and then connecting the visor, as well as loading the module like this with the visor already plugged in. (Unload the module with "modprobe -r visor" every time before you try changing parameters.) Hopefully the debug mode will result in some clues (or at least a good starting point for a targeted Google search) in the syslog. -- Regards,| Florian | -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20100705181054.ga3...@isar.localhost
Re: USB peripherals are plugged in across time: how are /dev/ttyUSBx assignations done?
On Mon, 05 Jul 2010 13:17:11 +0200 Merciadri Luca wrote: > Celejar wrote: > > Not sure what kind of peripherals you have in mind, but they generally > > won't get ttyUSBn addresses, unless they're USB-serial converters, > > which contain chips meant to provide a serial / TTY interface to the > > system. > > > And which addresses would they get, if they were not using /dev/ttyUSBx? The driver will determine what sort of interface is presented. If no driver picks up the device, no interface will be created. If it's a disk, you'll get /dev/sdx; a webcam, perhaps /dev/video; a WLAN dongle, perhaps wlan0 (all assuming that your kernel has a driver that recognizes the device). Celejar -- foffl.sourceforge.net - Feeds OFFLine, an offline RSS/Atom aggregator mailmin.sourceforge.net - remote access via secure (OpenPGP) email ssuds.sourceforge.net - A Simple Sudoku Solver and Generator -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20100705144222.86f11f38.cele...@gmail.com
printing stopped after sid update
Hi All, After a recent update I can't print. The files are in the queue but never get to the printer. The printer (HP2200) will print a test page from it's console just fine. Below is the possibly relevant part of the cups error log: How can I test the parallel port? TIA for any help, Paul Scott D [05/Jul/2010:11:22:31 -0700] cupsdNetIFUpdate: "lo" = localhost:631 D [05/Jul/2010:11:22:31 -0700] cupsdNetIFUpdate: "eth1" = 192.168.1.102:631 D [05/Jul/2010:11:22:31 -0700] cupsdNetIFUpdate: "lo" = localhost:631 D [05/Jul/2010:11:22:31 -0700] cupsdNetIFUpdate: "eth1" = fe80::2e0:29ff:fe43:c39c%eth1:631 D [05/Jul/2010:11:22:31 -0700] Report: clients=0 D [05/Jul/2010:11:22:31 -0700] Report: jobs=499 D [05/Jul/2010:11:22:31 -0700] Report: jobs-active=0 D [05/Jul/2010:11:22:31 -0700] Report: printers=6 D [05/Jul/2010:11:22:31 -0700] Report: printers-implicit=0 D [05/Jul/2010:11:22:31 -0700] Report: stringpool-string-count=11668 D [05/Jul/2010:11:22:31 -0700] Report: stringpool-alloc-bytes=14440 D [05/Jul/2010:11:22:31 -0700] Report: stringpool-total-bytes=216992 D [05/Jul/2010:11:23:17 -0700] cupsdAcceptClient: 11 from localhost (Domain) D [05/Jul/2010:11:23:17 -0700] cupsdReadClient: 11 POST / HTTP/1.1 D [05/Jul/2010:11:23:17 -0700] cupsdSetBusyState: Active clients D [05/Jul/2010:11:23:17 -0700] cupsdAuthorize: No authentication data provided. D [05/Jul/2010:11:23:17 -0700] cupsdReadClient: 11 1.1 Get-Printer-Attributes 1 D [05/Jul/2010:11:23:17 -0700] Get-Printer-Attributes ipp://localhost:631/printers/HP-LaserJet-2200 D [05/Jul/2010:11:23:17 -0700] Returning IPP successful-ok for Get-Printer-Attributes (ipp://localhost:631/printers/HP-LaserJet-2200) from localhost D [05/Jul/2010:11:23:17 -0700] cupsdSetBusyState: Not busy D [05/Jul/2010:11:23:17 -0700] cupsdReadClient: 11 POST /printers/HP-LaserJet-2200 HTTP/1.1 D [05/Jul/2010:11:23:17 -0700] cupsdSetBusyState: Active clients D [05/Jul/2010:11:23:17 -0700] cupsdAuthorize: No authentication data provided. D [05/Jul/2010:11:23:17 -0700] cupsdReadClient: 11 1.1 Create-Job 1 D [05/Jul/2010:11:23:17 -0700] Create-Job ipp://localhost:631/printers/HP-LaserJet-2200 D [05/Jul/2010:11:23:17 -0700] cupsdMarkDirty(J-) D [05/Jul/2010:11:23:17 -0700] cupsdSetBusyState: Active clients and dirty files D [05/Jul/2010:11:23:17 -0700] add_job: requesting-user-name="paul" I [05/Jul/2010:11:23:17 -0700] [Job 3129] Adding start banner page "none". D [05/Jul/2010:11:23:17 -0700] cupsdMarkDirty(-S) I [05/Jul/2010:11:23:17 -0700] [Job 3129] Queued on "HP-LaserJet-2200" by "paul". D [05/Jul/2010:11:23:17 -0700] Returning IPP successful-ok for Create-Job (ipp://localhost:631/printers/HP-LaserJet-2200) from localhost D [05/Jul/2010:11:23:17 -0700] cupsdSetBusyState: Dirty files D [05/Jul/2010:11:23:17 -0700] cupsdReadClient: 11 POST /printers/HP-LaserJet-2200 HTTP/1.1 D [05/Jul/2010:11:23:17 -0700] cupsdSetBusyState: Active clients and dirty files D [05/Jul/2010:11:23:17 -0700] cupsdAuthorize: No authentication data provided. D [05/Jul/2010:11:23:17 -0700] cupsdReadClient: 11 1.1 Send-Document 1 D [05/Jul/2010:11:23:17 -0700] Send-Document ipp://localhost:631/printers/HP-LaserJet-2200 D [05/Jul/2010:11:23:17 -0700] cupsdIsAuthorized: requesting-user-name="paul" D [05/Jul/2010:11:23:17 -0700] [Job 3129] Auto-typing file... D [05/Jul/2010:11:23:17 -0700] [Job 3129] Request file type is application/pdf. D [05/Jul/2010:11:23:17 -0700] cupsdMarkDirty(J-) I [05/Jul/2010:11:23:17 -0700] [Job 3129] File of type application/pdf queued by "paul". I [05/Jul/2010:11:23:17 -0700] [Job 3129] Adding end banner page "none". D [05/Jul/2010:11:23:17 -0700] cupsdMarkDirty(J-) D [05/Jul/2010:11:23:17 -0700] Returning IPP successful-ok for Send-Document (ipp://localhost:631/printers/HP-LaserJet-2200) from localhost D [05/Jul/2010:11:23:17 -0700] cupsdSetBusyState: Dirty files D [05/Jul/2010:11:23:17 -0700] cupsdReadClient: 11 WAITING Closing on EOF D [05/Jul/2010:11:23:17 -0700] cupsdCloseClient: 11 D [05/Jul/2010:11:23:17 -0700] cupsdAcceptClient: 11 from localhost (Domain) D [05/Jul/2010:11:23:17 -0700] cupsdReadClient: 11 POST / HTTP/1.1 D [05/Jul/2010:11:23:17 -0700] cupsdSetBusyState: Active clients and dirty files D [05/Jul/2010:11:23:17 -0700] cupsdAuthorize: No authentication data provided. D [05/Jul/2010:11:23:17 -0700] cupsdReadClient: 11 1.1 Get-Notifications 1 D [05/Jul/2010:11:23:17 -0700] Get-Notifications / D [05/Jul/2010:11:23:17 -0700] cupsdIsAuthorized: requesting-user-name="root" D [05/Jul/2010:11:23:17 -0700] Returning IPP successful-ok for Get-Notifications (/) from localhost D [05/Jul/2010:11:23:17 -0700] cupsdSetBusyState: Dirty files D [05/Jul/2010:11:23:17 -0700] cupsdAcceptClient: 12 from localhost (Domain) D [05/Jul/2010:11:23:17 -0700] cupsdReadClient: 11 WAITING Closing on EOF D [05/Jul/2010:11:23:17 -0700] cupsdCloseClient: 11 D [05/Jul/2010:11:23:17 -0700] cupsdReadClient: 12 POST / HTTP/1.1 D [05/Jul/2010:11:23:1
Why apt-get sets such packages as manually installed?
Hi, When you don't know that you already have a given package, and that you want to install it, apt-get tells you that you already have it, and sets it to `manually installed.' Why does it set it to `manually installed' like this? What's the interest? Most of the time, I don't know that I have a given package, and copy/paste a long list of packages that is needed for building something. Thanks. -- Merciadri Luca See http://www.student.montefiore.ulg.ac.be/~merciadri/ I use PGP. If there is an incompatibility problem with your mail client, please contact me. Look on the sunny side of life. signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: Why apt-get sets such packages as manually installed?
On Seg, 05 Jul 2010, Merciadri Luca wrote: When you don't know that you already have a given package, and that you want to install it, apt-get tells you that you already have it, and sets it to `manually installed.' Why does it set it to `manually installed' like this? What's the interest? Most of the time, I don't know that I have a given package, and copy/paste a long list of packages that is needed for building something. If you asked for a package to be installed, it is reasonable to assume that you want that package. If it is already installed, then naturally there is no need to reinstall - but since you asked for it, it is marked as manually installed - the same result you'd obtain if it was not installed. -- The future not being born, my friend, we will abstain from baptizing it. -- George Meredith Eduardo M KALINOWSKI edua...@kalinowski.com.br -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20100705162111.14081bxm05byq...@mail.kalinowski.com.br
Re: Why apt-get sets such packages as manually installed?
Eduardo M KALINOWSKI wrote: > On Seg, 05 Jul 2010, Merciadri Luca wrote: >> When you don't know that you already have a given package, and that yo= u >> want to install it, apt-get tells you that you already have it, and se= ts >> it to `manually installed.' Why does it set it to `manually installed'= >> like this? What's the interest? Most of the time, I don't know that I >> have a given package, and copy/paste a long list of packages that is >> needed for building something. > > If you asked for a package to be installed, it is reasonable to assume > that you want that package. If it is already installed, then naturally > there is no need to reinstall - but since you asked for it, it is > marked as manually installed - the same result you'd obtain if it was > not installed. --=20 Merciadri Luca See http://www.student.montefiore.ulg.ac.be/~merciadri/ I use PGP. If there is an incompatibility problem with your mail client, please contact me. signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: Why apt-get sets such packages as manually installed?
Sorry, Enigmail bug. And is there a way to prevent it from behaving like this? Eduardo M KALINOWSKI wrote: > On Seg, 05 Jul 2010, Merciadri Luca wrote: > > If you asked for a package to be installed, it is reasonable to assume > that you want that package. If it is already installed, then naturally > there is no need to reinstall - but since you asked for it, it is > marked as manually installed - the same result you'd obtain if it was > not installed. > > -- Merciadri Luca See http://www.student.montefiore.ulg.ac.be/~merciadri/ I use PGP. If there is an incompatibility problem with your mail client, please contact me. Effort is important, but knowing where to make an effort makes all the difference! signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: printing stopped after sid update
Op Mon, 05 Jul 2010 11:53:25 -0700 Paul Scott wrote: > After a recent update I can't print. The files are in the queue but > never get to the printer. The printer (HP2200) will print a test > page from it's console just fine. I had a similar problem, but I found this solution: in the CUPS interface ( http://localhost:631 ) I removed the printer, and then installed it again. BTW, there appear to have been quite a number of bug reports concerning this. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20100705221027.8d1dcac0.shiems...@kpnplanet.nl
audio CDs and cdrdao vs. cdparanoia
When I rip audio CDs, I typically use both cdrdao and cdparanoia and compare the results to make sure that I really really have the correct digital audio data. I run Debian testing with current versions of cdrdao 1.2.2 and cdparanoia III release 10.2. For each CD I run cdrdao read-cd --datafile data.cdr --device /dev/sg0 toc and cdparanoia -d /dev/sg0 -B where /dev/sg0 refers to an Plextor Ultraplex 40max SCSI CDROM drive. Then I use my own small program to split the data.cdr file into wav files .wav according to the toc file. I then compare these wav files with the track.cdda.wav files from cdparanoia. Alternatively, one could run sox track.cdda.wav cdda.cdr and then compare data.cdr to cdda.cdr. I most cases the results of cdrdao and cdparanoia are the same but for roughly 1 of 4 CDs one or more tracks differ. Sometimes this is the case for CDs with scratches but sometimes also for CDs with no obvious scratches where both, cdrdao and cdparanoia don't give any error message and do not seem to have any problems ripping the CD. I can run cdrdao and cdparanoia repeatedly, say 10 times, and I get deterministic results, i.e. all runs of cdrdao give the same result and all runs of cdparanoia give the same result but the results of cdrdao and cdparanoia differ. Now my question is where these differences come from and which results are the correct (better) ones. From the output to stdout I see that cdrdao uses the Paranoia DAE library and Joerg Schilling's SCSI library to actually read the audio CDs. With ldd I see it is not linked dynamically to these libraries. So one question is, do cdrdao and cdparanoia use different library versions? Regards, urs -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/ygfy6dpslq7@janus.isnogud.escape.de
Re: printing stopped after sid update
On 07/05/2010 01:10 PM, Sjoerd Hiemstra wrote: Op Mon, 05 Jul 2010 11:53:25 -0700 Paul Scott wrote: After a recent update I can't print. The files are in the queue but never get to the printer. The printer (HP2200) will print a test page from it's console just fine. I had a similar problem, but I found this solution: in the CUPS interface ( http://localhost:631 ) I removed the printer, and then installed it again. Thanks. When I try to add a printer I don't see parallel port as a choice. I even did dkpg-reconfigure cups and parallel was checked. I modified an old printer which was on a parallel port and now I get various errors from different choices of drivers for the printer. I'm not sure what to try next. Paul -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4c32497d.3010...@ultrasw.com
Debian/kernel's policy for fatal errors, etc.
Hi, When a computer stays turned on for a long amount of time, some problems could arise. I have the following questions: 1. What habitually makes a computer 'running Linux) go down (except electric problems)? 2. What are Debian/kernel's adaptations to prevent such problems from arising? Thanks. -- Merciadri Luca See http://www.student.montefiore.ulg.ac.be/~merciadri/ I use PGP. If there is an incompatibility problem with your mail client, please contact me. signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: audio CDs and cdrdao vs. cdparanoia
On Lu, 05 iul 10, 22:43:44, Urs Thuermann wrote: > Now my question is where these differences come from and which results > are the correct (better) ones. From the output to stdout I see that > cdrdao uses the Paranoia DAE library and Joerg Schilling's SCSI > library to actually read the audio CDs. With ldd I see it is not > linked dynamically to these libraries. So one question is, do cdrdao > and cdparanoia use different library versions? Maybe it's just me, but after reading the cdparanoia FAQ[1] I wouldn't use anything else for CD ripping ;) [1] http://xiph.org/paranoia/faq.html I doubt (but have no proof) cdrdao can handle all errors that cdparanoia can handle. Regards, Andrei -- Offtopic discussions among Debian users and developers: http://lists.alioth.debian.org/mailman/listinfo/d-community-offtopic signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: USB connection to Cablemodem, cdc_ether, resolvconf?
On Monday 05 July 2010 18:59:15 Paul Chany wrote: > Paul Chany > You can freely correct my English. The last Hungarian to say that to me - my father - took extreme umbrage if I actually did so!! Lisi -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/201007052236.24847.lisi.re...@gmail.com
Re: Re: Network crashes under heavy load
[snip] > An Intel NIC would usually be my first choice but since this board has > no PCIe slots I'm hesitant to use a PCI NIC if it's going to limit > network bandwidth. have you tried getting the realtek driver and compiling it, on some of my earlier boards, the nic was loaded by an in line kernel module but it didn't work properly I had to down load the realtek and compile it. > > I hope that answers all your questions and I'll try updating BIOS, > drivers and run those tests when I get home. > Thanks > [snip] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/aanlktiktom6zxa5nnkz6b4hgzux8ehwca1hghl3ft...@mail.gmail.com
bug in the Debian installer?!
bug in the Debian installer? I have two disks [2x1,5 TB WD Green]. In the Debian Lenny installer I set up RAID1 with the two disks. After that, I put the RAID1 in LVM. After that, I create a VG, and put these LV in it: 1 - lvm/256 MB/boot 2 - dm_crypt/5 GB/swap 3 - dm_crypt/30 GB/root 3 - dm_crypt/1,4 TB/home After that, I select to put the /home on the "home" LVs, /boot on the "boot" LV. lvm/256 MB/boot || dm_crypt/5 GB/swap || dm_crypt/30 GB/root || dm_crypt/1,4 TB/home LVM 1,5 TB RAID1 - 1,5 TB || RAID1 - 1,5 TB So I just want to encrypt my HDD's in RAID1. [And put the OS on it, boot from it.] Questions: A) Why isn't this working? [picture: http://img534.imageshack.us/img534/8066/whytx.jpg] - the system boots for a while - at least i can type in the passwords for the 3 encrypted partitions, but then it puts me to an "initramfs" B) For some reason..the installer uses LILO as boot manager, not GRUB. Why? Could that be the problem? C) So...if its not possible to do this, then how? :( D) Is this a bug in the installer? [to let the user install a system, that will wont boot...] Thank you for any help. Questions also here: http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=Qvnxhs8i -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1278368065.5146.31.ca...@localhost
advice on amd64
I recently acquired a new Dell Studio 15 laptop and mean to install Debian (squeeze) on it. I'm trying to decide whether to do a 64-bit install (amd64) or a 32-bit install (i386). My understanding is that the amd64 port is now very complete, and that the principal difficulty would probably be with flashplayer (since Adobe withdrew the 64-bit version of flashplayer 10 for linux). There seem to be various workarounds for this issue, but I was wondering if the performance gain that one might expect from the 64-bit architecture over the 32-bit architecture would be worth the extra trouble entailed by these workarounds. The machine has a 1.6GHz Intel Quad Core processor and 6GB of RAM. The GPU is an ATI Mobility Radeon (HD 5470) with 1GB of onboard memory. The laptop will be a work machine, but it will not be required to do 3D modelling or any intensive mathematical tasks (except maybe some statistical analysis and visualization with R, along with some audio analysis). If anyone here had advice to offer regarding this choice, I would very much appreciate hearing it, Thank you, Jim -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20100705224004.ga5...@ohlone
Re: printing stopped after sid update
Op Mon, 05 Jul 2010 14:07:09 -0700, Paul Scott wrote: > On 07/05/2010 01:10 PM, Sjoerd Hiemstra wrote: > > Op Mon, 05 Jul 2010 11:53:25 -0700 Paul Scott wrote: > > > After a recent update I can't print. The files are in the queue > > > but never get to the printer. The printer (HP2200) will print a > > > test page from it's console just fine. > > > > I had a similar problem, but I found this solution: > > in the CUPS interface ( http://localhost:631 ) I removed the > > printer, and then installed it again. > > When I try to add a printer I don't see parallel port as a choice. I > even did dkpg-reconfigure cups and parallel was checked. I modified > an old printer which was on a parallel port and now I get various > errors from different choices of drivers for the printer. > > I'm not sure what to try next. I know of someone who had the same problem, but successfully applied this more drastic solution. Maybe worth trying. 1. aptitude purge cups (+ automatic removal of driver-gutenprint, cups-pdf, hpijs-ppds, hplip) 2. aptitude install cups cups-pdf cups-driver-gutenprint hpijs-ppds hplip 3. reinstall the printers with the CUPS webinterface. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20100706013345.11b0470c.shiems...@kpnplanet.nl
Re: Network crashes under heavy load
Nathen put forth on 7/5/2010 4:47 AM: > An Intel NIC would usually be my first choice but since this board has > no PCIe slots I'm hesitant to use a PCI NIC if it's going to limit > network bandwidth. Hint: a standard PCI 32bit/33MHz PCI bus can transfer 132MB/s, which is slightly greater than the throughput of a single GigE NIC which is a little over 100MB/s. If the NIC is the only device on that bus, then you have no worries, and likewise if the bus is shared with a low bandwidth PCI device or two. What motherboard is this again and which RAID card? Apologies if you already posted it and I missed it. -- Stan -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4c326fb7.4050...@hardwarefreak.com
Re: advice on amd64
Jim McCloskey put forth on 7/5/2010 5:40 PM:
> If anyone here had advice to offer regarding this choice, I would very
> much appreciate hearing it,
Allowing a single web plugin to dictate your course of action here is
simply...sad.
If you're that addicted to youtube and pr0n go with a 32bit kernel with PAE
("bigmem"), and be aware that any one application can only use 4GB of that
6GB, though the kernel can use it all.
Best of luck.
--
Stan
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Re: advice on amd64
On Mon, 05 Jul 2010 18:58:48 -0500 Stan Hoeppner wrote: > Jim McCloskey put forth on 7/5/2010 5:40 PM: > > > If anyone here had advice to offer regarding this choice, I would very > > much appreciate hearing it, > > Allowing a single web plugin to dictate your course of action here is > simply...sad. [I assume we're talking about flash.] Flash is not really required for Youtube; I actually have flash installed, but I hate using it, so I generally just grab the video with youtube-dl (or cclive) and play it with mplayer. Celejar -- foffl.sourceforge.net - Feeds OFFLine, an offline RSS/Atom aggregator mailmin.sourceforge.net - remote access via secure (OpenPGP) email ssuds.sourceforge.net - A Simple Sudoku Solver and Generator -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20100705201144.e6640285.cele...@gmail.com
Re: advice on amd64
On Mon, Jul 5, 2010 at 17:11, Celejar wrote: > On Mon, 05 Jul 2010 18:58:48 -0500 > Stan Hoeppner wrote: > >> Jim McCloskey put forth on 7/5/2010 5:40 PM: >> >> > If anyone here had advice to offer regarding this choice, I would very >> > much appreciate hearing it, >> >> Allowing a single web plugin to dictate your course of action here is >> simply...sad. > > [I assume we're talking about flash.] Flash is not really required for > Youtube; I actually have flash installed, but I hate using it, so I > generally just grab the video with youtube-dl (or cclive) and play it > with mplayer. And a fair number of Youtube videos are available in WebM now. Cheers, Kelly Clowers -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/aanlktim2jyshyhkwttkajhnnxatarxaheuuqjd_sx...@mail.gmail.com
Re: advice on amd64
On 07/05/2010 05:40 PM, Jim McCloskey wrote: I recently acquired a new Dell Studio 15 laptop and mean to install Debian (squeeze) on it. I'm trying to decide whether to do a 64-bit install (amd64) or a 32-bit install (i386). My understanding is that the amd64 port is now very complete, and that the principal difficulty would probably be with flashplayer (since Adobe withdrew the 64-bit version of flashplayer 10 for linux). Won't be that difficult, actually, since a 64-bit system can run 32-bit plugins. What ever you do, go with either Iceweasel 3.6.4 from from Experimental, or v3.6.6 from upstream so that you can get plugin process separation. There seem to be various workarounds for this issue, but I was wondering if the performance gain that one might expect from the 64-bit architecture over the 32-bit architecture would be worth the extra trouble entailed by these workarounds. The machine has a 1.6GHz Intel Quad Core processor and 6GB of RAM. The GPU is an ATI Mobility Radeon (HD 5470) with 1GB of onboard memory. The GPU (actually, which driver to use and get decent performance from it) would be my big concern. The laptop will be a work machine, but it will not be required to do 3D modelling or any intensive mathematical tasks (except maybe some statistical analysis and visualization with R, along with some audio analysis). If anyone here had advice to offer regarding this choice, I would very much appreciate hearing it, -- Seek truth from facts. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4c327bd5.1050...@cox.net
Re: Scim and iceweasel
On Mon, Jul 05, 2010 at 02:11:25PM +0200, Wolodja Wentland wrote: > > /usr/share/doc/scim/README.Debian.gz > > which explains the whole situation in great detail. In particular the > sections "Autostart SCIM" and "Helper packages" are relevant. > Thanks for the reply. In fact, scim was getting started as could be seen from ~/.xsession-errors. The problem was I had to choose manually the input method in gnome-terminal and no way of doing it in iceweasel et al. I noticed that I had chosen scim as the input method using im-switch. The scim method sets GTK_IM_MODULE=xim whereas scim-immodule sets the same to scim! Changing that made gnome-terminal, iceweasel, inkscape to use scim as their input method. I still cannot get it to work under OO. Any suggestion is welcome. Regards, -- Sridhar M.A. GPG KeyID : F6A35935 Fingerprint: D172 22C4 7CDC D9CD 62B5 55C1 2A69 D5D8 F6A3 5935 Mathematics is the only science where one never knows what one is talking about nor whether what is said is true. -- Russell signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: advice on amd64
On Monday 05 July 2010 15:58:48 Stan Hoeppner wrote:
> Jim McCloskey put forth on 7/5/2010 5:40 PM:
> > If anyone here had advice to offer regarding this choice, I would very
> > much appreciate hearing it,
>
> Allowing a single web plugin to dictate your course of action here is
> simply...sad.
>
> If you're that addicted to youtube and pr0n go with a 32bit kernel with PAE
> ("bigmem"), and be aware that any one application can only use 4GB of that
> 6GB, though the kernel can use it all.
>
> Best of luck.
>
> --
> Stan
Flash from 64 bit debian-multimedia depends on 32 bit libraries. It will set
up the 32 bit library environment automagically.
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Peace,
Greg
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Re: Re: advice on amd64
|> Allowing a single web plugin to dictate your course of action here
|> is simply...sad.
|>
|> If you're that addicted to youtube and pr0n
Sigh ... suppresses irritation.
But thank you very much for this advice:
|>go with a 32bit kernel with PAE
|> ("bigmem"), and be aware that any one application can only use 4GB
|> of that 6GB, though the kernel can use it all.
I actually very occasionally have a professional need for flash
animations. I'm happy to use gnash for this, but the last time I tried
it, it wasn't quite ready. For YouTube, I mostly use WebM-enabled
Google Chrome
Jim
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Re: Re: advice on amd64
On Mon, Jul 5, 2010 at 6:08 PM, Jim McCloskey wrote: > |> Allowing a single web plugin to dictate your course of action here > |> is simply...sad. > |> > |> If you're that addicted to youtube and pr0n > > Sigh ... suppresses irritation. > > But thank you very much for this advice: > [...] I admire the OP's class in his response. Thought that comment about youtube and pr0n was completely unnecessary and unsolicited when I read it.
Re: password memory
Gary L. Roach wrote: > I have a Win2K machine and a linux sqeeze machine both running mozella > 5.0 (Firefox and Iceweasel). The Win2K machine remembers password > inromation to my Amazon.com account (as an example) but the linux > machine doesn't. I've checked all of the mozella settings and can't find > any difference. Any suggestions. I need to get this resolved so I can > ditch the Win2K machine. It seems to me that even though you checked and didn't see any differences that one of them isn't set to remember passwords or has previousy been told not to remember passwords from amazone. Edit, Preferences, Security, verify that "Remember passwords for sites" is checked. Then click "Exceptions..." verify that amazon isn't in the list of "Passwords for the following sites will not be saved:". Perhaps even select "Remove All" there to ensure this. Bob signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Debian/kernel's policy for fatal errors, etc.
Merciadri Luca wrote: > When a computer stays turned on for a long amount of time, some problems > could arise. I have the following questions: > > 1. What habitually makes a computer 'running Linux) go down (except > electric problems)? One possibility is soft memory errors in the RAM. Using ECC RAM reduces the likely to a vanishingly small probability and has long been the normal hardware for high quality systems. But cheaper commodity hardware desktops designed to run a well known commercial OS these days uses cheaper non-ECC RAM since it doesn't make sense to be more reliable than the target OS. Linux tends to expose these systems since it is very reliable in and of itself. Another possibility is a kernel bug either in the main kernel core or in a device driver. Device drivers have a higher incidence of bugs especially for unique low use niche hardware. Popular devices are better tested than hardware that only three people in the world use. But kernel bugs in the public code are rare. When found those are fixed pretty quickly. A third more common case is when closed source proprietary drivers are loaded into the kernel such as a vendor's graphics driver. Because those are closed source there isn't any public review. Bugs there are frustrating to all since they can't be debugged by anyone but the vendor and the vendor doesn't usually have access to your system nor motivation to debug your system. For high reliability you should avoid loading any closed source proprietary driver, unless you yourself are the author of it. > 2. What are Debian/kernel's adaptations to prevent such problems from > arising? Debian adds few patches over and above the standard stock Linux kernel. Basically in this area (as far as I know) you are getting the stock upstream Linux kernel capability. Bob signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: advice on amd64
On Lu, 05 iul 10, 15:40:04, Jim McCloskey wrote: > > I recently acquired a new Dell Studio 15 laptop and mean to install > Debian (squeeze) on it. I'm trying to decide whether to do a 64-bit > install (amd64) or a 32-bit install (i386). My understanding is that > the amd64 port is now very complete, and that the principal difficulty > would probably be with flashplayer (since Adobe withdrew the 64-bit > version of flashplayer 10 for linux). Skype is another annoyance with similar workarounds... > There seem to be various workarounds for this issue, but I was > wondering if the performance gain that one might expect from the > 64-bit architecture over the 32-bit architecture would be worth the > extra trouble entailed by these workarounds. The machine has a 1.6GHz > Intel Quad Core processor and 6GB of RAM. The GPU is an ATI Mobility > Radeon (HD 5470) with 1GB of onboard memory. One of the workarounds[1] seems to work fine for my brother's laptop. I'm trying to get along without flash, at least until there is a native 68bit version ;) [1] http://wiki.debian.org/FlashPlayer#DebianTesting.27Squeeze.27amd64 Besides the GPU problems mentioned by Ron, don't forget the performance penalty of PAE, which is necessary to take advantage of your 6 GiB RAM. IMVHO PAE is a hack and I would avoid it, at least by using a 64bit kernel. If you plan to switch "later" to amd64 also consider this will require a complete reinstall. Regards, Andrei -- Offtopic discussions among Debian users and developers: http://lists.alioth.debian.org/mailman/listinfo/d-community-offtopic signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Debian/kernel's policy for fatal errors, etc.
Bob Proulx wrote: > Merciadri Luca wrote: > >> When a computer stays turned on for a long amount of time, some problems >> could arise. I have the following questions: >> >> 1. What habitually makes a computer 'running Linux) go down (except >> electric problems)? >> > > One possibility is soft memory errors in the RAM. Using ECC RAM > reduces the likely to a vanishingly small probability and has long > been the normal hardware for high quality systems. But cheaper > commodity hardware desktops designed to run a well known commercial OS > these days uses cheaper non-ECC RAM since it doesn't make sense to be > more reliable than the target OS. Linux tends to expose these systems > since it is very reliable in and of itself. > Thanks. > Another possibility is a kernel bug either in the main kernel core or > in a device driver. Device drivers have a higher incidence of bugs > especially for unique low use niche hardware. Popular devices are > better tested than hardware that only three people in the world use. > But kernel bugs in the public code are rare. When found those are > fixed pretty quickly. > Okay. > A third more common case is when closed source proprietary drivers are > loaded into the kernel such as a vendor's graphics driver. Because > those are closed source there isn't any public review. Bugs there are > frustrating to all since they can't be debugged by anyone but the > vendor and the vendor doesn't usually have access to your system nor > motivation to debug your system. For high reliability you should > avoid loading any closed source proprietary driver, unless you > yourself are the author of it. > Sure. >> 2. What are Debian/kernel's adaptations to prevent such problems from >> arising? >> > Debian adds few patches over and above the standard stock Linux > kernel. Basically in this area (as far as I know) you are getting the > stock upstream Linux kernel capability. > Okay. Well, I'm using, on the computer which `should never fail,' Silcon Labs' drivers for a Davis Vantage Pro 2 Wireless station (which is connected to the computer by USB). I'm not sure if they are the CP210x (because this is not really UART, at least to me), but they seem to be pretty correctly integrated into the kernel. I should not worry like this, but for a computer which needs to be turned on 24h/24, 7d/7, etc., it's an important thing because, for meteorological data capture, we shall all depend on the computer's `good-will.' -- Merciadri Luca See http://www.student.montefiore.ulg.ac.be/~merciadri/ I use PGP. If there is an incompatibility problem with your mail client, please contact me. All flowers are not in one garden. signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: advice on amd64
Jim McCloskey wrote: > I recently acquired a new Dell Studio 15 laptop and mean to install > Debian (squeeze) on it. I'm trying to decide whether to do a 64-bit > install (amd64) or a 32-bit install (i386). My understanding is that > the amd64 port is now very complete, and that the principal difficulty > would probably be with flashplayer (since Adobe withdrew the 64-bit > version of flashplayer 10 for linux). That pretty much agrees with my view of things. I have been running a 64-bit desktop for many years. I mostly use a 32-bit chroot for things that I want to keep "mainstream" like Firefox. > There seem to be various workarounds for this issue, but I was > wondering if the performance gain that one might expect from the > 64-bit architecture over the 32-bit architecture would be worth the > extra trouble entailed by these workarounds. The performance difference is very small. Some natively compiled applications will perform better in 64-bit mode due to the larger number of cpu registers available for the optimizer. You would need to benchmark any particular application for real data. Some applications will have a noticeable performance difference. But I personally don't see a large performance difference either way as an overall statement about the system in general. For practical purposes I would say performace between them is basically the same. It really comes down to memory use. If you need the memory in one process then you need the 64-bit system to be able to use more than 3G of ram in a single process. > The machine has a 1.6GHz Intel Quad Core processor and 6GB of > RAM. The GPU is an ATI Mobility Radeon (HD 5470) with 1GB of onboard > memory. You have 6G of memory and so with a 64-bit system you would be able to run a single program that could access all 6G of that memory. With a 32-bit system a single process is limited to 3G of memory. The 32-bit Linux kernel with PAE will be able to make good use of all 6G across the entire system. So either way the system will be able to use all of the memory. > The laptop will be a work machine, but it will not be required to do > 3D modelling or any intensive mathematical tasks (except maybe some > statistical analysis and visualization with R, along with some audio > analysis). By this I assume you won't need that 6G of ram in any one program because I would describe that as intensive. :-) Also you don't sound like you want to develop and debug and so want a 64-bit environment specifically for that purpose. In which case I personally would go with the 32-bit Linux kernel with PAE. It is still the mainstream architecture and so somewhat simpler. Bob signature.asc Description: Digital signature
strange freezes or lock ups on memory intensive tasks
This is on an AMD 64 bit processor (AMD Phenom(tm) II X2 555 Processor) with Debian Unstable (32 bit kernel) installed. I have noticed that when I am running a RAM intensive task, usually when browsing large photo files in geeqie and sometimes when starting firefox or chromium, the PC hangs or locks up or freezes. The only solution is to reboot the computer. I have ran a memtest on the memory some weeks ago and it passed. There is nothing in the logs to show any problem. Kernel is 2.6.32-5-686-bigmem. I have tried unlocking two cores in the processor, or just one core, or just using it with the default two cores. I have also experimented with varying voltages to the RAM chips (based on the manufacturer's recommendations). No luck. Apart from asking the memory vendor to do an RMA to try a different memory (while realizing that memtest passed!), can somebody suggest what other options I should look for? I am not sure what test to try to localize or narrow down the cause of these lock ups. Thanks. -- Please reply to this list only. I read this list on its corresponding newsgroup on gmane.org. Replies sent to my email address are just filtered to a folder in my mailbox and get periodically deleted without ever having been read. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/i0ufol$g8...@dough.gmane.org
Re: Debian/kernel's policy for fatal errors, etc.
Merciadri Luca wrote: > pretty correctly integrated into the kernel. I should not worry like > this, but for a computer which needs to be turned on 24h/24, 7d/7, etc., > it's an important thing because, for meteorological data capture, we > shall all depend on the computer's `good-will.' I have personally seen Linux based systems run for several years without a reboot. Of course that isn't recommended since security vulnerabilities are usually patched at least a few times a year and security upgrades should be installed and rebooted to activate. But just the same old "uptime wars" have been around for a while and machines running for years without a reboot are not that unusual. If uptime is critical, critical, critical then you would need to plan for it and use more redundancy. But for most applications it is good enough to plan scheduled reboots for installations of security upgrades. It is all your choice. Bob signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: How do I back up a running system?
On Fri, Jun 18, 2010 at 2:43 PM, Robert S wrote: > I have debian running on a "headless" system. I'd like to back the entire > system up. Its difficult with a bootable disk without a monitor (so > Clonezilla etc are out). I've tried mondoarchive but it usually bails out > before it completes the backup. > > Are there any suggestions? A simple script would be nice. > What do you want to backup? How much time do you have to restore the backup? Is it a server that needs to be up and running within minutes? Or do you have a few hours to restore the server? I usually use a combination of rsnapshot, mysqldump and an offsite backup program such as CrashPlan. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/aanlktikobp1_73vzigudw2xttp4ir8ugaonxhnfnh...@mail.gmail.com
Re: advice on amd64
On 7/5/2010 5:40 PM, Jim McCloskey wrote: I recently acquired a new Dell Studio 15 laptop and mean to install Debian (squeeze) on it. The machine has a 1.6GHz Intel Quad Core processor and 6GB of RAM. The GPU is an ATI Mobility Radeon (HD 5470) with 1GB of onboard memory. Do you not mean a 2.6 GHz CPU (rather than 1.6)? I would go with amd64. 32-bit Flash also runs on amd64, and flashplayer-mozilla from Debian-multimedia (rather than flashplugin-nonfree) installs everything you need. And though it seems to imply that it exists for iceweasel/firefox (or possibly epiphany) it works well with Chrome, too. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4c32c80f.9000...@allums.com
Re: advice on amd64
On 05/07/10 23:40, Jim McCloskey wrote: I recently acquired a new Dell Studio 15 laptop and mean to install Debian (squeeze) on it. I'm trying to decide whether to do a 64-bit install (amd64) or a 32-bit install (i386). My understanding is that the amd64 port is now very complete, and that the principal difficulty would probably be with flashplayer (since Adobe withdrew the 64-bit version of flashplayer 10 for linux). There seem to be various workarounds for this issue, but I was wondering if the performance gain that one might expect from the 64-bit architecture over the 32-bit architecture would be worth the extra trouble entailed by these workarounds. The machine has a 1.6GHz Intel Quad Core processor and 6GB of RAM. The GPU is an ATI Mobility Radeon (HD 5470) with 1GB of onboard memory. I have a (now) ageing Intel Core2 Duo machine as my Desktop which I originally installed the 64 bit version of Debian. I found these little work arounds annoying and just occasionally they didn't work. I had the opportunity after a disk upgrade to do a complete re-install and I chose to switch back to the 32 bit version. I haven't noticed any performance degradation and I just don't get any hassel from issues with flash etc. I only (sic) have 2GB memory - but again to be honest, I run mysql, postgres and a web server in the background (as well as the standard daemons such sshd and inetd) and I rarely even get to swap. I get the impression (but I haven't done any careful analysis) that the 32 bit stuff uses slightly less memory resources. My main (non surfing the net) activity is web development although I have done a bit of video editing The only downside I have had is that I recently was trying to install a 64 bit version of Debian on a server I have and accidently installed the 32 bit version from the install SD card I had made and had forgotten to label as 32 bit. -- Alan Chandler http://www.chandlerfamily.org.uk -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4c32cc68.7030...@chandlerfamily.org.uk
Re: advice on amd64
Mark put forth on 7/5/2010 11:51 PM: > I admire the OP's class in his response. Thought that comment about youtube > and pr0n was completely unnecessary and unsolicited when I read it. Dry humor doesn't include emoticons. -- Stan -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4c32cfc7.4060...@hardwarefreak.com
Re: strange freezes or lock ups on memory intensive tasks
H.S. put forth on 7/6/2010 12:42 AM: > > This is on an AMD 64 bit processor (AMD Phenom(tm) II X2 555 Processor) > with Debian Unstable (32 bit kernel) installed. I have noticed that > when I am running a RAM intensive task, usually when browsing large > photo files in geeqie and sometimes when starting firefox or chromium, > the PC hangs or locks up or freezes. The only solution is to reboot the > computer. What motherboard? Integrated video/GPU or add in card? Have you tried a different power supply yet? -- Stan -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4c32d179.4000...@hardwarefreak.com
Re: Debian/kernel's policy for fatal errors, etc.
On 05/07/10 22:22, Merciadri Luca wrote: Hi, When a computer stays turned on for a long amount of time, some problems could arise. I have the following questions: 1. What habitually makes a computer 'running Linux) go down (except electric problems)? 2. What are Debian/kernel's adaptations to prevent such problems from arising? Thanks. I have had a Debian based server at home running 24/7 for about 7 or 8 years. Living near London, we seem to have a reasonably stable electricity supply (I don't do anything special) and I have had uptimes of nearly a year, with the only downtime in the year being when my wife made me turn it off as we went on holiday. Of course upgrades to the kernel have required bringing it down, and more recently I have had several updgrades of hardware to increase disk space and increase performance with a faster processes so I could build in mythtv. From November 2009 to 10 days ago I went through a phase of using a Sheeva plug computer as the server (in order to use less electricity), but I am sad to say its (hardware) reliability wasn't good and I have now abandoned that. Putting the old server back it has now been running 24/7 for the last 10 days. It runs exim and apache and mythtv as the three key applications supported by both mysql and postgres, but it is also a git server, dns server (along with dhcp and tftp - using dnsmasq), time server, firewall/router/internet gateway and automatically supports most of the backups via cron (when it is master of the process) or via rsyncd (when it is the slave). I have never seen a memory leak or anything else that has required attention. -- Alan Chandler http://www.chandlerfamily.org.uk -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4c32d150.70...@chandlerfamily.org.uk
