Re: Torrents killing my conection
On Mon, Jun 21, 2010 at 12:43 PM, Ron Johnson wrote: [snip] >> he won't be able to get the 4.4G iso file without pausing and >> resuming, if a misconfigured networking enviroment (or flaky wireless) >> was the reason. >> > > From what I can remember of his claims, it (downloading a torrent) over the > wireless connection works fine with XP and with UNR. It's just some form of > straight Debian where torrent downloads fail. i'm aware of that. by misconfigured and flaky i mean possible flaws within his debian setup and wireless driver. Tao -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/aanlktin3tgp3knhuz6mb3agge84aka5b_sx_v6c7p...@mail.gmail.com
Re: From UTF-8 to octal and back
On Sun, 20 Jun 2010 20:36:49 +0300, Alexander Batischev wrote:
(...)
> The problem is: I don't know how to convert from usual string
> ("Введение") to octal (represented above) and back. I mean, I understand
> algorithm, but I don't know how to do it in a simple way. I thought
> about writing small C program to do that, but I guess there are some
> piece of software performing this task already, so I better ask in
> mailing list first.
>
> Any advices?
Maybe "uni2ascii" can help. It is included in Debian main repo.
http://billposer.org/Software/uni2ascii.html
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Re: Torrents killing my conection
Huang, Tao put forth on 6/21/2010 2:36 AM: > On Mon, Jun 21, 2010 at 12:43 PM, Ron Johnson wrote: > [snip] >>> he won't be able to get the 4.4G iso file without pausing and >>> resuming, if a misconfigured networking enviroment (or flaky wireless) >>> was the reason. >>> >> >> From what I can remember of his claims, it (downloading a torrent) over the >> wireless connection works fine with XP and with UNR. It's just some form of >> straight Debian where torrent downloads fail. > > i'm aware of that. > by misconfigured and flaky i mean possible flaws within his debian > setup and wireless driver. He stated his torrent failures occur on both one rev of Ubuntu and one rev of Debian--two Linux platforms. My somewhat educated guess is that both revs use the same version of the wireless driver and likely other network kernel code that is different from the rev of Ubuntu which he has no torrent problems with. They may even use the exact same kernel rev. I've not researched this however. -- Stan -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4c1f1c25.4090...@hardwarefreak.com
Re: Torrents killing my conection
On Mon, Jun 21, 2010 at 2:04 AM, Mark wrote: > Exactly. I'm hoping his dvd download via Iceweasel fails, since that would > point directly to a driver issue. If it succeeds, that means the problemo > is with the torrent software. Iceweasel, jigdo both worked. Also I've tried I think 5 different torrent software. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/aanlktikli5vx23bogqaybp14gygpenk8on8d4amhc...@mail.gmail.com
Re: Torrents killing my conection
On Mon, Jun 21, 2010 at 12:43 AM, Ron Johnson wrote: > From what I can remember of his claims, it (downloading a torrent) over the > wireless connection works fine with XP and with UNR. It's just some form of > straight Debian where torrent downloads fail. XP & UNR 9.10 work, Debian & UNE 10.04 do not. I've successfully downloaded via Iceweasel, Usenet an now jigdo. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/aanlktikph2z8mxoek2qtr_rkxd1v2hcrcm3mb83lo...@mail.gmail.com
Re: Well, this is interesting... (was Re: Torrents killing my connection)
On Sun, Jun 20, 2010 at 9:20 PM, Huang, Tao wrote: > "When replying to messages on the mailing list, do not send a carbon > copy (CC) to the original poster unless they explicitly request to be > copied." That's what I thought... well we're all going to have to live with a mistake every now & again. Gets to be a habit to hit reply, then change the "To" to the list. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/aanlktikpe9rdck5jjugmiavut27ds_g_vjkwjaryk...@mail.gmail.com
Re: Torrents killing my connection
On Mon, Jun 21, 2010 at 12:22 AM, Huang, Tao wrote: > so the torrents render you wireless disconnected. > > if your wifi adapter driver supports auto-reconnecting, everything > should be solved. but i have no idea on how to get there. > > correct me if i get it wrong. My visual indicator something is wrong is when Skype goes offline. The signal meter shows a connection, but once Skype goes offline, I can't do anything until I disconnect & reconnect. I'd be able to live with the problem if there was a auto-reconnection, but since the connection doesn't actually disconnect...? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/aanlktilycibzdjzbwztinfhiegkflrbu40qqljun3...@mail.gmail.com
Re: How to change the console into UTF-8 mode for FreeBSD kernels?
On Sun, 20 Jun 2010 19:51:51 +0800, Michael Tsang wrote: > It's really annoying if the console isn't in UTF-8 mode as every bit of > my system is in Unicode to prevent any compatibility problems. Dunno if you alredy did it, but maybe you get more lucky by asking your question here: http://lists.debian.org/debian-bsd/ Greetings, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/pan.2010.06.21.08.35...@gmail.com
mising ~/include/linux/version.h 686-bigmem
I am using 32bit Lenny. I added more memory ,I wanted to use the 686-bigmem kernel. The Nvidia package install, from nvidia's site, complains about missing the version.h file. Searching I found the solution was to install the kernel source and do a 'make oldconfig' with the .config file from the bigmem kernel.This works but I haven't had to do this with the stock 686 kernel & headers so I was wondering if it is a Debian header issue for the 686-bigmem kernel. -- Peace, Greg -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/201006210044.14580.gomadtr...@gci.net
Re: Torrents killing my connection
On Mon, Jun 21, 2010 at 2:13 AM, Ron Johnson wrote: >> It sounds like the most effective thing you could do would be to pick up >> a comprehensive Linux book and spend some quality time with it. I do have a book. It is quite handy & I do read it often. The CLI stuff... I'd have to take a really methodical approach to. At present I have similar distaste for it that I had back in 1980 with Basic, TRS-80, my Vic 20. I went to this computer summer camp, I remember copying code for a Pac Man type game. It didn't work & when the teacher said, "We'll have to go back & see where you mistyped" I was d-o-n-e. I didn't get back into computers till Window 3.11 & to be honest never did learn anything but GUI. CLI is great if you can remember *exactly* what needs to be typed, but my brain doesn't naturally learn like that. I'd have to "study". I'm guessing I'm not grasping the over pattern of thinking with the CLI & once I start really trying to learn, I'll have a breakthrough. Right now it seems like a lot of random, unfamiliar, exact instructions that are seldom used over & I'm pretty sure that can't be the case. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/aanlktil6rp3k_e2dsmpbg2jmonm-9c5jguhelpg7t...@mail.gmail.com
Re: status of Snd soundfile-editor in squeeze???
Hi Jim,
On Mon, Jun 21, 2010 at 3:10 AM, Jim McCloskey wrote:
> After installation of the basic infrastructure (the snd package itself) you
> need
> to install one of the user interface packages---snd-gtk-jack, snd-gtk-pulse,
> or
> snd-gtk. The first builds in Jack support, the second builds in pulse-audio
> support, and the third (which I have always used) should just interface
> directly
> with Alsa.
snd-gtk and snd-alsa are virtual packages provided by snd-gtk-{jack,pulse}.
> The upgrade process was quite fraught, because on startup, snd complained
> about
> missing extension files and faulty load-paths. I got past those problems by
> removing a .snd_guile_prefs file in my home directory left there by the
> previous
> version of the package.
>
Could you provide me a full detailed log? It would be useful in order
to collect more information about this issue.
> can't play: open read /dev/dsp: No such file or directory
> [audio.c[1825] linux_audio_open_with_error]
This needs investigation too. Which snd packages have you installed now?
> I notice that the version of snd-gtk available in the repositories is very old
> (7.18-2.2 0 from lenny, with no version at all in squeeze or sid)
[...]
As said above, it isn't a real binary package anymore, it's just
provided by both snd-gtk-pulse and snd-gtk-jack.
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Re: Torrents killing my connection
Dne, 21. 06. 2010 04:10:28 je H.S. napisal(a): I think he is over-simplifying the problem of flaky wireless, but I understand where he is coming from. I have discovered that a buggy driver, or buggy firmware on the wireless card, or both, can cause wireless connectivity problems over time. It doesn't need to be torrents of course, any network traffic will give similar results. +1 A workaround is to restart the networking. In my experience, this is not *always* true. On some platforms, ifdown followed by ifup helps. On some platforms, restarting network-manager helps. On some platforms, unloading the wireless kernel module and re-inserting it helps. On some platforms, such as my HP 6715b laptop w/ the proprietary Broadcom wl driver, sometimes putting the laptop to sleep and then waking it up again helps (short of rebooting, of course). -- Regards, Klistvud Certifiable Loonix User #481801 http://bufferoverflow.tiddlyspot.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1277111675.3103...@compax
Re: Torrents killing my conection
On 06/21/2010 03:00 AM, Stan Hoeppner wrote: Huang, Tao put forth on 6/21/2010 2:36 AM: On Mon, Jun 21, 2010 at 12:43 PM, Ron Johnson wrote: [snip] he won't be able to get the 4.4G iso file without pausing and resuming, if a misconfigured networking enviroment (or flaky wireless) was the reason. From what I can remember of his claims, it (downloading a torrent) over the wireless connection works fine with XP and with UNR. It's just some form of straight Debian where torrent downloads fail. i'm aware of that. by misconfigured and flaky i mean possible flaws within his debian setup and wireless driver. He stated his torrent failures occur on both one rev of Ubuntu and one rev of Debian--two Linux platforms. My somewhat educated guess is that both revs use the same version of the wireless driver and likely other network kernel code that is different from the rev of Ubuntu which he has no torrent problems with. They may even use the exact same kernel rev. I've not researched this however. Lets not forget that my *wired* system crapped out at 86% while downloading the torrent he supplied. Bouncing my WRT56GL solved the problem. However, two other torrents I've downloaded (both "legally" on torrent) downloaded just fine. -- Seek truth from facts. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4c1f30b3.5030...@cox.net
Re: mising ~/include/linux/version.h 686-bigmem
On 2010-06-21, Greg Madden wrote: > I am using 32bit Lenny. I added more memory ,I wanted to use the 686-bigmem > kernel. > > The Nvidia package install, from nvidia's site, complains about missing the > version.h file. > > Searching I found the solution was to install the kernel source and do a > 'make > oldconfig' with the .config file from the bigmem kernel.This works but I > haven't had to do this with the stock 686 kernel & headers so I was wondering > if it is a Debian header issue for the 686-bigmem kernel. You just need to install the linux-headers package corresponding to the kernel against which you want to compile the module. It helps to keep the dummy packages linux-headers-2.6-686-bigmem and linux-image-2.6-686-bigmem installed: then the headers will always match the kernel. -- Liam O'Toole Cork, Ireland -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/slrni1ud9u.503.liam.p.oto...@dipsy.selfip.org
Re: mising ~/include/linux/version.h 686-bigmem
On Monday 21 June 2010 01:47:42 Liam O'Toole wrote: > On 2010-06-21, Greg Madden wrote: > > I am using 32bit Lenny. I added more memory ,I wanted to use the > > 686-bigmem kernel. > > > > The Nvidia package install, from nvidia's site, complains about missing > > the version.h file. > > > > Searching I found the solution was to install the kernel source and do a > > 'make oldconfig' with the .config file from the bigmem kernel.This works > > but I haven't had to do this with the stock 686 kernel & headers so I was > > wondering if it is a Debian header issue for the 686-bigmem kernel. > > You just need to install the linux-headers package corresponding to the > kernel against which you want to compile the module. It helps to keep > the dummy packages linux-headers-2.6-686-bigmem and > linux-image-2.6-686-bigmem installed: then the headers will always > match the kernel. > > -- > Liam O'Toole > Cork, Ireland I see I was not very clear, i have the headers package installed, which Is why i was wondering why the 686-bigmem headers didn't work. -- Peace, Greg -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/201006210157.09020.gomadtr...@gci.net
Ralink 2500 connects at 1M
My Lenny laptop with a Ralink 2500 wireless card always connects at a speed of 1M, which is unbearably slow. I can issue this command which fixes it, but I have to do it every time: iwconfig wlan0 rate 54M Anybody know a better way? -Rob -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20100621101529.ga30...@aurora.owens.net
NetworkManager and if-up.d
I need to run a script every time my wireless connection comes up, but putting one in /etc/network/if-up.d does not work. NetworkManager has provisions for scripts in /etc/NetworkManager/dispatcher.d, but it looks like the script that is already there (01ifupdown) is designed to run everything in if-up.d -- but it's not working. How can I get a script to run when NetworkManager brings up my wireless connection? -Rob -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20100621101849.gb30...@aurora.owens.net
Re: How do I back up a running system?
I have debian running on a "headless" system. I'd like to back the entire system up. Its difficult with a bootable disk without a monitor (so Clonezilla etc are out). I've tried mondoarchive but it usually bails out before it completes the backup. And what does mondoarchive.log say? Calling MINDI to create boot+data disks Your boot loader is GRUB and it boots from /dev/sda /var/tmp/mondo-temp/tmp.mondo.9418/tmp.mondo.8981 The log gets this far then nothing happens: # tail /var/log/mondo-archive.log You are using Mindi-Linux v2.2.0-r881 to make boot+data disks Analyzing dependency requirements Done. Making complete dependency list 100% |cp: cannot stat `/usr/games/petris': No such file or directory Cannot find /usr/games/petris. You will not be able to play petris during restore. Done. Analyzing your keyboard's configuration. Adding the following keyboard mapping tables: Done. Dropping i686-optimized libraries if appropriate. I am running mondoarchive with the following options: mondoarchive -OiF -k /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.26-2-686 -d /var/tmp/mondoarchive -S /var/tmp/mondo-scratch -T /var/tmp/mondo-temp -E "/home /mnt /root/packages /var/cache/apt/archives" I don't know what version that is: I run Mindi v2.0.7.2-r2575 and Mondo Archive v2.2.9.3-r2622. If I were in your situation I would download the latest from upstream: http://mondorescue.muskokamug.org/debian/5.0/ because Debian is backleveled, do it again, and then save my mondoarchive + mindi logs in their entirety and post the error and the logs on the mondo forum where the response is excellent: mondo-de...@lists.sourceforge.net and also post what you posted here: your calling parameters, and see what Bruno Cornec says, he is the lead developer and on top of things. The latest version seems to work from the upstream site. I did a restore on a vmware virtual machine and it died during bootup. I didn't have any problems using an older version of vmware. I managed to back my system up successfully using a combination of backupninja and genisoimage. A much cruder but more straightforward approach. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/hvnhbe$r6...@dough.gmane.org
Version in use
Hallo, I have a CnMbook netbook and from what I can find it has a Debian Linux system (distribution, I think it is called). How do I find out which version of operating system I have? Please. Thanks, Cliff Ayling === Email scanned by PC Tools - No viruses or spyware found. (Email Guard: 7.0.0.18, Virus/Spyware Database: 6.15260) http://www.pctools.com/ === -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4c1f4a87.9000...@btinternet.com
Re: Version in use
On Mon, 21 Jun 2010 12:18:31 +0100, Cliff Ayling wrote: > I have a CnMbook netbook and from what I can find it has a Debian Linux > system (distribution, I think it is called). > > How do I find out which version of operating system I have? Please. As it seems to run a "modified" version of Debian, it can be anything. http://194.150.201.35/cnmlifestyle/cnmbook/cnmbookspecification.htm You better try with "uname -r" to know the kernel version. Greetings, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/pan.2010.06.21.11.45...@gmail.com
ATI video issue on Lenny
Hi there, Is anyone having any issues with ATI latest drivers rending the screen (blank) useless to use at random times, this doesn't allow me to use the ctl+alt+(F1,F2,F3,F4,F5,F6) to restart Xorg? But instead requires me to press the recycle button. This happen often. I wanted to see if it was only happening on Lenny AMD64, so I tried another Linux AMD64 distribution only to have the same thing happing again, so now I have switched back to Windows to see if it is a hardware or software issueSo far the ATI drivers for Windows has been solid so far and has not render the screen into unuseable mode, as I have been running it for nearly two days straight without the screen becoming useless on me and no need for me to RMA on the motherboard. After concluding that it was the ATI drivers for Linux and not hardware fault, I wish to get back to using Debian as soon as possible. The motherboard has 512MB onboard video, with the memory coming from system RAM. My current hardware setup is Antec 300 Three-Hundred Three Hundred Gaming Case Vantec ION2 460W PSU ECS A790GXM-AD3 Socket AM3 socket for AMD Phenom™ II processors Supports CPU up to 140W TDP only On Chip (AMD 790GX-based with ATI™ Radeon HD3300 graphics ) 4 x 240-pin DDR3 DIMM socket support up to 32GB Support DDR3 up to 1333/1066 DDR3 SDRAM 2 x PCI Express Gen 2.0 x16 slots, 2 x PCI Express x1 slots, 2 x PCI slots 2 x Ultra DMA 100/66/33 devices, 6 x Serial ATAII 3.0Gb/s devices RAID0, RAID1, RAID5, RAID 10 configuration, 1 x eSATA Realtek RTL 8111C Gigabit Fast Ethernet NIC CPU - AMD Phenom II X2 Dual Core 550 CPU BLACK EDITION, 3.1GHz, 7 MB Cache socket AM3 45nm SOI (80W) Type of Memory Supported Support for unregistered DIMMs up to PC2-6400 (DDR2-800MHz) -AND- PC3-8500 (DDR3-1066MHz) Ram - G.Skill PI 4GB Kit (2GB X 2) PC3-10666 PC-10600 DDR3 1333 CL 7-7-7-18 LG GH22NS30 OEM 22x SATA Dual Layer, DVD+-RW DVDRW Black DL DVD Writer Pack (24.3W) Samsung HD103UJ Wireless PCI - TP Link WN651G 108M Thanks for your time. Quan
Re: Version in use
On Mon, Jun 21, 2010 at 7:18 PM, Cliff Ayling wrote: > How do I find out which version of operating system I have? Please. cat /etc/issue /proc/version Tao -- http://huangtao.me/ http://www.google.com/profiles/UniIsland -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/aanlktimkioxkn-trqebx2fhoxunwtm1l8ykqf_r38...@mail.gmail.com
Re: mising ~/include/linux/version.h 686-bigmem
On Mon, Jun 21, 2010 at 12:44:14AM -0800, Greg Madden wrote: > I am using 32bit Lenny. I added more memory ,I wanted to use the 686-bigmem > kernel. > > The Nvidia package install, from nvidia's site, complains about missing the > version.h file. http://packages.debian.org/lenny/i386/linux-headers-2.6.26-2-686-bigmem/filelist does show /usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.26-2-686-bigmem/include/linux/version.h > > Searching I found the solution was to install the kernel source and do a > 'make > oldconfig' with the .config file from the bigmem kernel.This works but I > haven't had to do this with the stock 686 kernel & headers so I was wondering > if it is a Debian header issue for the 686-bigmem kernel. I suspect that this is a bug with the nVidia script. -- Tzafrir Cohen | tzaf...@jabber.org | VIM is http://tzafrir.org.il || a Mutt's tzaf...@cohens.org.il || best tzaf...@debian.org|| friend -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20100621115557.gj17...@pear.tzafrir.org.il
Re: Torrents killing my conection
On Mon, Jun 21, 2010 at 5:28 AM, Ron Johnson wrote: > Lets not forget that my *wired* system crapped out at 86% while downloading > the torrent he supplied. Bouncing my WRT56GL solved the problem. > > However, two other torrents I've downloaded (both "legally" on torrent) > downloaded just fine. I've had problems with torrents not finishing, but *never* knocking out my connection! Boy this is REALLY weird. Your wired connection on the same torrent... wow, I'm just totally confused. So what technically happening when a torrent takes down your wired connection?? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/aanlktimftm8o-hlyd_ug3mnvux3rqiautuxfpg1rc...@mail.gmail.com
Re: Torrents killing my conection
2010/6/21 ABS Doug : > On Mon, Jun 21, 2010 at 5:28 AM, Ron Johnson wrote: > >> Lets not forget that my *wired* system crapped out at 86% while downloading >> the torrent he supplied. Bouncing my WRT56GL solved the problem. >> >> However, two other torrents I've downloaded (both "legally" on torrent) >> downloaded just fine. > > I've had problems with torrents not finishing, but *never* knocking > out my connection! Boy this is REALLY weird. Your wired connection on > the same torrent... wow, I'm just totally confused. So what > technically happening when a torrent takes down your wired > connection?? Well, it knocks out your router by eating it's memory and cpu time too much. This is typical problem on low end routers, buy better one.. -- Eero -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/aanlktikg4zcxtxf2l1ehvm6c9mic2qyl4pxywfpph...@mail.gmail.com
Re: mising ~/include/linux/version.h 686-bigmem
On Monday 21 June 2010 03:55:57 Tzafrir Cohen wrote: > On Mon, Jun 21, 2010 at 12:44:14AM -0800, Greg Madden wrote: > > I am using 32bit Lenny. I added more memory ,I wanted to use the > > 686-bigmem kernel. > > > > The Nvidia package install, from nvidia's site, complains about missing > > the version.h file. > > > http://packages.debian.org/lenny/i386/linux-headers-2.6.26-2-686-bigmem/fil >elist > > does show > > /usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.26-2-686-bigmem/include/linux/version.h > > > Searching I found the solution was to install the kernel source and do a > > 'make oldconfig' with the .config file from the bigmem kernel.This works > > but I haven't had to do this with the stock 686 kernel & headers so I was > > wondering if it is a Debian header issue for the 686-bigmem kernel. > > I suspect that this is a bug with the nVidia script. It may be my mistake. I have a link from some kernel-headers for a kernel I use for an older version of vmware. The headers were linked to '/usr/src/linux', wrong headers compared to the new running kernel , wrong version.h file. I suppose nvidia's script looked at the '/usr/src/linux/...' path instead of the matching linux-header path for the running kernel. -- Peace, Greg -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/201006210509.46019.gomadtr...@gci.net
Between a Rock and a Hard Place (Installing Squeeze)
I have spent the last couple of days (intermittently) failing get a usb bootable installation for squeeze that will work with my hardware and AMD-64 (I have inadvertently built an i386 system [twice] - because I have an old squeeze installation on an SD card that I failed to add the architecture label to). I have a server which has no cd. Only real possibility is to boot from a usb memory stick. Fortunately with the fact that I have an SDHC card to USB adaptor I have plenty of them large enough. Following the instructions in the installation manual section 4.3.2 "Copying the files - the flexible way" I can get a bootable installation provided I can get an .iso However my new system will be comprised of ext2 and ext4 filesystems and right now there is a bug which prevents versions 2.16 of libblkid1 making such systems 2.17 works - and is available in sid (and can be back copied into squeeze) but until it can migrate into testing (which I had expected to happen last night - but something has now delayed it another two days) So downloading the weekly .iso of CD1 of testing doesn't work - because it fails in the partitioning process of making the new filesystems. I have also downloaded the daily netboot install which has the sid installer (although it installs squeeze) but that seems not to recognize either of my two ethernet cards so installation doesn't even get started. I am not sure where to go next. Possibilities seem like a) Get a SID CD .iso - install that and then change my sources.list to point at the squeeze repositories once it has installed the base system. b) Try and dynamically change the libblkid1.so.1 file once the installer has booted. Neither seem perfect. Has anyone any other suggestions? -- Alan Chandler http://www.chandlerfamily.org.uk -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4c1f64d1.1050...@chandlerfamily.org.uk
Re: UUID in fstab? - Gave Up
On Saturday 19 June 2010 12:57:22 Thomas H. George wrote: > On Fri, Jun 18, 2010 at 01:15:48PM -0400, Thomas H. George wrote: > ... > > I deleted the vfat partition and created a new ext2 partition in its > place. Ran e2fsck on all of my partitions. The result was clean in > every case. Tried to install linux-base and the installation failed > with the same dosfslabel message. Filed bug report. > This is a long shot, but do you have any USB devices attached? When I went through this linux-base upgrade on my home system, I kept getting an error about something being open (I don't remember the exact message). Running e2fsck on all the partitions didn't help. Then I turned of the USB printer (which has an SDRAM card reader), and the upgrade worked. Certainly remove any USB memory sticks. -Chris | Christopher Judd, Ph. D. | | Research Scientist III | | NYS Dept. of Health j...@wadsworth.org | | Wadsworth Center - ESP | | P. O. Box 509518 486-7829 | | Albany, NY 12201-0509 | IMPORTANT NOTICE: This e-mail and any attachments may contain confidential or sensitive information which is, or may be, legally privileged or otherwise protected by law from further disclosure. It is intended only for the addressee. If you received this in error or from someone who was not authorized to send it to you, please do not distribute, copy or use it or any attachments. Please notify the sender immediately by reply e-mail and delete this from your system. Thank you for your cooperation. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/201006210906.54443.j...@wadsworth.org
Re: Version in use
On Mon, Jun 21, 2010 at 12:18:31PM +0100, Cliff Ayling wrote: > Hallo, > > I have a CnMbook netbook and from what I can find it has a Debian > Linux system (distribution, I think it is called). > > How do I find out which version of operating system I have? Please. $ lsb_release -a -- Regards, Alexander Batischev 1024D/69093C81 F870 A381 B5F5 D2A1 1B35 4D63 A1A7 1C77 6909 3C81 signature.asc Description: Digital signature
SOLVED: From UTF-8 to octal and back
On Mon, Jun 21, 2010 at 07:57:24AM +, Camaleón wrote:
> On Sun, 20 Jun 2010 20:36:49 +0300, Alexander Batischev wrote:
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> (...)
>
> > The problem is: I don't know how to convert from usual string
> > ("Введение") to octal (represented above) and back. I mean, I understand
> > algorithm, but I don't know how to do it in a simple way. I thought
> > about writing small C program to do that, but I guess there are some
> > piece of software performing this task already, so I better ask in
> > mailing list first.
> >
> > Any advices?
>
> Maybe "uni2ascii" can help. It is included in Debian main repo.
>
> http://billposer.org/Software/uni2ascii.html
Ah, thank you, Camaleón! That's exactly what I was looking for!
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Can't restart certain crashed applications without rebooting (in this case Noatun)
Sorry this is so long--maybe I can summarize the problem here, then you can go on and read the background and a more detailed explanation of the problem: Sometimes after a program hangs (in this case noatun), I have trouble restarting it without rebooting my entire system. I do look for all the processes associated with the application (noatun, using ps -Al | grep noatun) and kill them, with either kill -9 or kill -15, but afterwards, when I try to start the application, I just get a spinning hourglass indication in the taskbox (on the taskbar) and a small bouncing blue ball elsewhere on the screen, both of which eventually disappear without having started the application. Hmm, maybe with that you don't even need the Background and Problem listed below. I've tried googling, but don't really have a good clue for what to google. A dead end (I think): Oh, wait, I might have a clue: now I try to start noatun in a terminal (with & or without) and I very quickly (sometimes) get exit 255--hmm, on the next try I didn't get the exit 255--what does exit 255 mean?: r...@s17:~$ noatun & [2] 11248 [1] Exit 255 noatun r...@s17:~$ Well, I haven't found out what exit 255 means, but I don't think it matters, it doesn't consistently happen, just sometimes. Background: This is surely not a Debian specific question, but I'll try asking here to see if anyone can give me one or more hints--I've tried to do some googling, but really don't have a good clue for what to google. I've had the same thing happen for applications besides Noatun (iirc) (and on Linuxes that I used before installing Debian 5.0), but because the current problem is Noatun, I'll mention Noatun in this example. I was running Noatun and it hung. It may have been something I did--specifically, at the time it hung, I had the playlist up and was unchecking checkboxes on the playlist. In an effort to restart noatun, I looked (using ps -Al | grep noatun) for all noatun processes and killed them with (the first time) kill -9. Later (on subsequent attempts), I tried kill -15. Either one wipes out all the processes with noatun in the name. The problem: Here's the problem: when I go to restart noatun, it won't restart. On the taskbar (is that the right name in KDE) I see a task labeled noatun seemingly attempt to start--I see an hourglass spinning, and elsewhere on my screen I see some sort of small bouncing blue ball, but after 15 seconds or so, both disappear and noatun hasn't restarted. If I go look at the processes using ps -Al | grep noatun, I find something like the following: s17:~# ps -Al | grep noatun 1 S 1000 11039 3039 0 80 0 - 8589 - ?00:00:00 noatun 1 S 1000 11040 11039 0 80 0 - 9670 - ?00:00:00 noatun 1 S 1000 11141 3039 0 80 0 - 8589 - ?00:00:00 noatun 1 Z 1000 11142 11141 0 80 0 - 0 - ?00:00:00 noatun s17:~# If I wipe those out (using kill -9 or kill -15), they disappear, but when I try to noatun again I get the same result. In the past, the only way I found to recover from a situation like this was to reboot. (Potentially just restarting KDE might also solve the problem, but from my point of view, restarting KDE is as drastic a solution as rebooting, so when I think about restarting KDE I just go ahead and do a (cold) reboot with the hope of cleaning up any other possible "garbage" that might be floating around in my system.) I see that the one process is a Zombie. I've googled on things like zombie, process, noatun, restart, and combinations thereof--even a good suggestion on appropriate search terms might get me started here (of course, a nice clear explanation and course of action would be nicer). Thanks! Randy Kramer -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/201006210938.55249.rhkra...@gmail.com
Re: Torrents killing my conection
On 06/21/2010 07:22 AM, Eero Volotinen wrote: 2010/6/21 ABS Doug: On Mon, Jun 21, 2010 at 5:28 AM, Ron Johnson wrote: Lets not forget that my *wired* system crapped out at 86% while downloading the torrent he supplied. Bouncing my WRT56GL solved the problem. However, two other torrents I've downloaded (both "legally" on torrent) downloaded just fine. I've had problems with torrents not finishing, but *never* knocking out my connection! Boy this is REALLY weird. Your wired connection on the same torrent... wow, I'm just totally confused. So what technically happening when a torrent takes down your wired connection?? Well, it knocks out your router by eating it's memory and cpu time too much. This is typical problem on low end routers, buy better one.. The why does it succeed when XP is the client, and for me when the torrent is "non-pirate"? -- Seek truth from facts. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4c1f6ccf.5020...@cox.net
Re: Can't restart certain crashed applications without rebooting (in this case Noatun)
Hmm, as is too often the case, after sending an email seeking, I start to get some other clues--I found a suggestion to restart arts--I tried that, still no luck so I'm still looking for help (but maybe I have some kind of clue now). Randy Kramer On Monday 21 June 2010 09:38:55 am Randy Kramer wrote: > Sorry this is so long--maybe I can summarize the problem here, then > you can go on and read the background and a more detailed explanation > of the problem: > > Sometimes after a program hangs (in this case noatun), I have trouble > restarting it without rebooting my entire system. I do look for all > the processes associated with the application (noatun, using ps -Al | > grep noatun) and kill them, with either kill -9 or kill -15, but > afterwards, when I try to start the application, I just get a > spinning hourglass indication in the taskbox (on the taskbar) and a > small bouncing blue ball elsewhere on the screen, both of which > eventually disappear without having started the application. > > Hmm, maybe with that you don't even need the Background and Problem > listed below. I've tried googling, but don't really have a good clue > for what to google. > > A dead end (I think): > > Oh, wait, I might have a clue: now I try to start noatun in a > terminal (with & or without) and I very quickly (sometimes) get exit > 255--hmm, on the next try I didn't get the exit 255--what does exit > 255 mean?: > > r...@s17:~$ noatun & > [2] 11248 > [1] Exit 255 noatun > r...@s17:~$ > > Well, I haven't found out what exit 255 means, but I don't think it > matters, it doesn't consistently happen, just sometimes. > > Background: > > This is surely not a Debian specific question, but I'll try asking > here to see if anyone can give me one or more hints--I've tried to do > some googling, but really don't have a good clue for what to google. > > I've had the same thing happen for applications besides Noatun (iirc) > (and on Linuxes that I used before installing Debian 5.0), but > because the current problem is Noatun, I'll mention Noatun in this > example. > > I was running Noatun and it hung. It may have been something I > did--specifically, at the time it hung, I had the playlist up and was > unchecking checkboxes on the playlist. > > In an effort to restart noatun, I looked (using ps -Al | grep noatun) > for all noatun processes and killed them with (the first time) > kill -9. Later (on subsequent attempts), I tried kill -15. > > Either one wipes out all the processes with noatun in the name. > > The problem: > > Here's the problem: when I go to restart noatun, it won't restart. > On the taskbar (is that the right name in KDE) I see a task labeled > noatun seemingly attempt to start--I see an hourglass spinning, and > elsewhere on my screen I see some sort of small bouncing blue ball, > but after 15 seconds or so, both disappear and noatun hasn't > restarted. If I go look at the processes using ps -Al | grep noatun, > I find something like the following: > > s17:~# ps -Al | grep noatun > 1 S 1000 11039 3039 0 80 0 - 8589 - ?00:00:00 > noatun 1 S 1000 11040 11039 0 80 0 - 9670 - ? > 00:00:00 noatun 1 S 1000 11141 3039 0 80 0 - 8589 - ? >00:00:00 noatun 1 Z 1000 11142 11141 0 80 0 - 0 - ? > 00:00:00 noatun > s17:~# > > If I wipe those out (using kill -9 or kill -15), they disappear, but > when I try to noatun again I get the same result. > > In the past, the only way I found to recover from a situation like > this was to reboot. (Potentially just restarting KDE might also > solve the problem, but from my point of view, restarting KDE is as > drastic a solution as rebooting, so when I think about restarting KDE > I just go ahead and do a (cold) reboot with the hope of cleaning up > any other possible "garbage" that might be floating around in my > system.) > > I see that the one process is a Zombie. I've googled on things like > zombie, process, noatun, restart, and combinations thereof--even a > good suggestion on appropriate search terms might get me started here > (of course, a nice clear explanation and course of action would be > nicer). > > Thanks! > Randy Kramer -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/201006210946.28098.rhkra...@gmail.com
Re: Version in use
On 06/21/2010 06:50 AM, Huang, Tao wrote: On Mon, Jun 21, 2010 at 7:18 PM, Cliff Ayling wrote: How do I find out which version of operating system I have? Please. cat /etc/issue /proc/version And /etc/debian_version. -- Seek truth from facts. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4c1f6e01.4060...@cox.net
Re: Torrents killing my connection
On 06/20/10 17:30, ABS Doug wrote: > On Sun, Jun 20, 2010 at 10:37 AM, H.S. wrote: > >> If torrents were acting all weird in my case, I would do the following, >> in the given order. >> >> 1. Try a "safe" torrent, e.g. of a Linux distribution (Ubuntu is a good >> example). The idea is to exclude the possibility of using bad or >> intentionally malformed torrents (see klistvud's reply). If this "safe" >> torrent works without problems, then you know what is wrong. If it >> doesn't, then go to next step. > > I'm gunna start one now, see what happens. Good idea, nothing should > be at issue there. So, is the verdict out? How did it go? -- Please reply to this list only. I read this list on its corresponding newsgroup on gmane.org. Replies sent to my email address are just filtered to a folder in my mailbox and get periodically deleted without ever having been read. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/hvns2p$4i...@dough.gmane.org
Re: Torrents killing my connection
On 06/20/10 23:10, ABS Doug wrote: > On Sun, Jun 20, 2010 at 10:47 PM, Huang, Tao wrote: >> >> you have no control at all on how the wifi hotspots were configured, >> which is also the case of ABS Doug. >> port-forwarding (or upnp) is needed for good torrents performance. >> if the number of connections is not limited, the router resouces will >> be used up pretty soon, especially on share hotspots. >> downloading over http can be resumed smoothly after a networking >> restarting, but torrents suffer more on this. > > I DO have access to the router, just not able to run a cable to it. I > have the password & can modify settings as long as I'm not screwing > anyone else in house. > > I have used WR54G for some time. I do not recall having any issue with it. But I was using it with a cable I have learned never to trust a wireless connection for a sustained and reliable connection. Besides, its stock firmware was quickly replace with an open source one, IIRC DD-WRT. -- Please reply to this list only. I read this list on its corresponding newsgroup on gmane.org. Replies sent to my email address are just filtered to a folder in my mailbox and get periodically deleted without ever having been read. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/hvnsfb$6j...@dough.gmane.org
Re: Ralink 2500 connects at 1M
在 2010-06-21一的 06:15 -0400，Rob Owens写道： > My Lenny laptop with a Ralink 2500 wireless card always connects at a > speed of 1M, which is unbearably slow. I can issue this command which > fixes it, but I have to do it every time: > > iwconfig wlan0 rate 54M Try: In /etc/network/interfaces, in the wlan0 section,add " pre-up iwconfig wlan0 rate 54M" below the "iface ..." line. > > Anybody know a better way? > > -Rob > > -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1277130100.2679.2.ca...@localhost
Re: 32bits and 3G memory limit
Thanks everyone who replied, On Sun, 20 Jun 2010 17:26:08 +, Camaleón wrote: >> I mean, does 32bits Linux (the i386 architecture) has such 3G limit as >> well? > > No, 32 bits architecture can make use of PAE and add/use/address as much > as 64 GiB of RAM. > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Physical_Address_Extension in which it says: ,- | The Linux kernel supports PAE as a build option and most major | distributions provide a PAE kernel either as the default or as an | option. `- How can I know if the PAE support is built in my kernel? $ grep -i pae /boot/config* || echo no found no found -- Tong (remove underscore(s) to reply) http://xpt.sourceforge.net/techdocs/ http://xpt.sourceforge.net/tools/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/hvnth3$7l...@dough.gmane.org
Re: 32bits and 3G memory limit
On Mon, 21 Jun 2010 14:38:27 +, T o n g wrote: > Thanks everyone who replied, You're welcome. > On Sun, 20 Jun 2010 17:26:08 +, Camaleón wrote: > >>> I mean, does 32bits Linux (the i386 architecture) has such 3G limit as >>> well? >> >> No, 32 bits architecture can make use of PAE and add/use/address as >> much as 64 GiB of RAM. >> >> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Physical_Address_Extension > > in which it says: > > ,- > | The Linux kernel supports PAE as a build option and most major | > distributions provide a PAE kernel either as the default or as an | > option. > `- > > How can I know if the PAE support is built in my kernel? In Debian, PAE enabled kernels are named "linux-image-*-bigmem" (note the "bigmem"). > $ grep -i pae /boot/config* || echo no found no found "uname -r" will tell :-) Greetings, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/pan.2010.06.21.15.02...@gmail.com
Re: 32bits and 3G memory limit
On 6/20/2010 10:32 AM, T o n g wrote: > Is the 3G memory access limit is the natural one, or something > superficial imposed by M$? I mean, does 32bits Linux (the i386 > architecture) has such 3G limit as well? I'm not familiar with "M$", but if you're referring to "MS", short for "Microsoft", then no. Sorry, pet peeve, but "M$", "Micro$oft", and the like, come across as quite immature, and very fanboy. A 32-bit system, is a system that can address at most 2^32 bits of memory for any given process. Most 32-bit kernels these days, however, can address much more thanks to the physical address extensions (PAE), typically 64 GB. But that still means that each process can only address 2^32, or 4GB of RAM. -- . O . O . O . . O O . . . O . . . O . O O O . O . O O . . O O O O . O . . O O O O . O O O signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: 32bits and 3G memory limit
2010/6/21 T o n g : > Thanks everyone who replied, > > On Sun, 20 Jun 2010 17:26:08 +, Camaleón wrote: > >>> I mean, does 32bits Linux (the i386 architecture) has such 3G limit as >>> well? >> >> No, 32 bits architecture can make use of PAE and add/use/address as much >> as 64 GiB of RAM. >> >> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Physical_Address_Extension > > in which it says: > > ,- > | The Linux kernel supports PAE as a build option and most major > | distributions provide a PAE kernel either as the default or as an > | option. > `- > > How can I know if the PAE support is built in my kernel? > > $ grep -i pae /boot/config* || echo no found > no found I think it is included in bigmem kernel ? try apt-cache search linux-image | grep bigmem ? -- Eero -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/aanlktik1hghbgpvxxburg3ceplx9jqk0mv69sajhp...@mail.gmail.com
Re: Version in use
On 6/21/2010 5:18 AM, Cliff Ayling wrote: > I have a CnMbook netbook and from what I can find it has a Debian Linux > system (distribution, I think it is called). > > How do I find out which version of operating system I have? Please. dpkg -l base-files -- . O . O . O . . O O . . . O . . . O . O O O . O . O O . . O O O O . O . . O O O O . O O O signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: 32bits and 3G memory limit
Eero Volotinen wrote: >> $ grep -i pae /boot/config* || echo no found >> no found > > I think it is included in bigmem kernel ? > > try apt-cache search linux-image | grep bigmem ? thanks for pointing out this, because I was curious and grepped the config files on my 32bit system. grep -i pae /boot/config* /boot/config-2.6.26.2s1:# CONFIG_X86_PAE is not set /boot/config-2.6.26.2s1.old:# CONFIG_X86_PAE is not set /boot/config-2.6.26.5s1:# CONFIG_X86_PAE is not set but it seems that in newer once it's gone ls -1 /boot/config* /boot/config /boot/config-2.4.26-acl-emo /boot/config-2.4.26-h323-acl-emo /boot/config-2.6.26.2s1 /boot/config-2.6.26.2s1.old /boot/config-2.6.26.5s1 /boot/config-2.6.28.5eko2 /boot/config-2.6.28.5eko2.old /boot/config-2.6.30.10eko2 /boot/config-2.6.30.6eko2 /boot/config-2.6.30.6eko2.old /boot/config-2.6.31eko2 /boot/config-2.6.31eko2.old /boot/config-2.6.32.7eko2 /boot/config-2.6.32.7eko2.old /boot/config-2.6.33eko2 /boot/config.old surprise surprise - when making statements by theory people should check in practice regards -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/hvnvng$i1...@dough.gmane.org
Re: 32bits and 3G memory limit
On Mon, Jun 21, 2010 at 02:38:27PM +, T o n g wrote: > Thanks everyone who replied, > > On Sun, 20 Jun 2010 17:26:08 +, Camaleón wrote: > > >> I mean, does 32bits Linux (the i386 architecture) has such 3G limit as > >> well? > > > > No, 32 bits architecture can make use of PAE and add/use/address as much > > as 64 GiB of RAM. > > > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Physical_Address_Extension > > in which it says: > > ,- > | The Linux kernel supports PAE as a build option and most major > | distributions provide a PAE kernel either as the default or as an > | option. > `- > > How can I know if the PAE support is built in my kernel? > > $ grep -i pae /boot/config* || echo no found > no found You are looking for the HIGHMEM64 config option, and apparently the -bigmem suffixed kernel packages. -- Jon Dowland -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20100621145452.gh9...@forelli.alcopop.org
Re: KVM with non-standard floppy image size
Tong, Do you actually have a floppy drive (and media) that can handle 8 megabytes? That seems rather unlikely, as the standard 3 1/2" (iirc) floppy is 1.44 MB. Randy Kramer On Monday 21 June 2010 11:01:33 am T o n g wrote: > Does anyone has positive experience with KVM using non-standard > floppy image size? > > SIZEKB=8192 > mkdosfs -I -v -C dosfs-8M.img $SIZEKB > sudo mount -o loop dosfs-8M.img /mnt/tmp1/ > echo aaa > /mnt/tmp1/a > kvm -fda MSDOS71B.IMG -fdb dosfs-8M.img > > I get drive not formatted error when trying to access B: from dos. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20100627.34034.rhkra...@gmail.com
Re: 32bits and 3G memory limit
2010/6/21 deloptes : > Eero Volotinen wrote: > >>> $ grep -i pae /boot/config* || echo no found >>> no found >> >> I think it is included in bigmem kernel ? >> >> try apt-cache search linux-image | grep bigmem ? > > thanks for pointing out this, because I was curious and grepped the config > files on my 32bit system. > > grep -i pae /boot/config* > /boot/config-2.6.26.2s1:# CONFIG_X86_PAE is not set > /boot/config-2.6.26.2s1.old:# CONFIG_X86_PAE is not set > /boot/config-2.6.26.5s1:# CONFIG_X86_PAE is not set > > but it seems that in newer once it's gone > > ls -1 /boot/config* > /boot/config > /boot/config-2.4.26-acl-emo > /boot/config-2.4.26-h323-acl-emo > /boot/config-2.6.26.2s1 > /boot/config-2.6.26.2s1.old > /boot/config-2.6.26.5s1 > /boot/config-2.6.28.5eko2 > /boot/config-2.6.28.5eko2.old > /boot/config-2.6.30.10eko2 > /boot/config-2.6.30.6eko2 > /boot/config-2.6.30.6eko2.old > /boot/config-2.6.31eko2 > /boot/config-2.6.31eko2.old > /boot/config-2.6.32.7eko2 > /boot/config-2.6.32.7eko2.old > /boot/config-2.6.33eko2 > /boot/config.old > > surprise surprise - when making statements by theory people should check in > practice PAE is enabled on 686-bigmem kernels at least, I just checked it. -- Eero -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/aanlktim-mtuboicwykbeqitho0jjmd_2pilvaofbf...@mail.gmail.com
Re: Between a Rock and a Hard Place (Installing Squeeze)
On 21/06/10 14:10, Alan Chandler wrote: ... b) Try and dynamically change the libblkid1.so.1 file once the installer has booted. Touch wood! After a couple of abortive attempts due to finger trouble and some strange loop the partitioner got into wanting to change partition tables but not format filesystems I seem to have created my filesystems and am in to the "Installing the Base System" phase now. So it does seem to work To be clear, I downloaded the sid .deb for this package and extracted the libblkid.so.1.1.0 file in it and copied into the root directory of the installation usb stick I had created earlier I booted up the installer and got to the part where it wanted to partition the disks. I then used ALT f2 to get another console The original media was mounted on /hd-media, so I just copied it across from there are put it in the /lib directory I then removed the libblkid.so.1 file in that directory and symlinked that file instead to the new file I just copied in. I then went back to the installation (using ALT f1) and selected BACK> and then re-entered through the "Detect Disks" phase (I am not sure it is necessary, but I was playing it safe). voila -- Alan Chandler http://www.chandlerfamily.org.uk -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4c1f8259.3030...@chandlerfamily.org.uk
Re: Between a Rock and a Hard Place (Installing Squeeze)
On Mon, Jun 21, 2010 at 9:10 PM, Alan Chandler wrote: > I have spent the last couple of days (intermittently) failing get a usb > bootable installation for squeeze that will work with my hardware and AMD-64 > (I have inadvertently built an i386 system [twice] - because I have an old > squeeze installation on an SD card that I failed to add the architecture > label to). > > I have a server which has no cd. Only real possibility is to boot from a > usb memory stick. Fortunately with the fact that I have an SDHC card to USB > adaptor I have plenty of them large enough. if you already have grub, no external boot media is needed for debian installation. fetch the netinst vmlinuz and initrd files, boot with them and install from the internet. happy to know that you've found a workaround. Tao -- http://huangtao.me/ http://www.google.com/profiles/UniIsland -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/aanlktimfldapey81crdo03vcmycvwxjtl22pbu_hf...@mail.gmail.com
Re: ATI video issue on Lenny
On Mon, Jun 21, 2010 at 09:49:13PM +1000, Open Source.Lives wrote: > Hi there, > > Is anyone having any issues with ATI latest drivers rending the screen > (blank) useless to use at random times, this doesn't allow me to use the > ctl+alt+(F1,F2,F3,F4,F5,F6) to restart Xorg? But instead requires me to > need for me to RMA on the motherboard. I noticed problems a few days back when I upgraded from linux-image-2.6.32-3-amd64 (which worked) to linux-image-2.6.32-5-amd64 which does not (-3 works mostly OK, though some opengl programs display as black squares in place of windows which -5 has random flickering pixels all over the screen and sometimes is completely black from boot, though opengl works OK when it's displaying). Might be worth trying a slightly older kernel in case it's just this regresssion biting you. I'm using a Mobility Radeon HD 3400 on a Toshiba laptop. Regards, Roger -- .''`. Roger Leigh : :' : Debian GNU/Linux http://people.debian.org/~rleigh/ `. `' Printing on GNU/Linux? http://gutenprint.sourceforge.net/ `-GPG Public Key: 0x25BFB848 Please GPG sign your mail. signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Torrents killing my conection
On Mon, Jun 21, 2010 at 1:24 AM, ABS Doug wrote: > On Mon, Jun 21, 2010 at 2:04 AM, Mark wrote: > > > Exactly. I'm hoping his dvd download via Iceweasel fails, since that > would > > point directly to a driver issue. If it succeeds, that means the > problemo > > is with the torrent software. > > Iceweasel, jigdo both worked. Also I've tried I think 5 different > torrent software. > Thanks for testing it, so at this point you know it has to be something specific to torrents - you can rule out any advice people are giving about buying a better router, blah blah blah, since it works in XP and Ubuntu 9.04. On Mon, Jun 21, 2010 at 6:44 AM, Ron Johnson wrote: > > > Then why does it succeed when XP is the client, and for me when the torrent is "non-pirate"? Yeah this is just a weird scenario now that he's said he can download via Iceweasel and jigdo in the same Debian installation. So it's not a driver issue apparently.
Re: 32bits and 3G memory limit
On 06/21/2010 10:09 AM, Aaron Toponce wrote: On 6/20/2010 10:32 AM, T o n g wrote: Is the 3G memory access limit is the natural one, or something superficial imposed by M$? I mean, does 32bits Linux (the i386 architecture) has such 3G limit as well? I'm not familiar with "M$", but if you're referring to "MS", short for "Microsoft", then no. Sorry, pet peeve, but "M$", "Micro$oft", and the like, come across as quite immature, and very fanboy. Very 1990s, I'd say. A 32-bit system, is a system that can address at most 2^32 bits of memory for any given process. The traditional definition of a CPU's "bitness" is the width of it's registers, not the amount memory it can access. Most 32-bit kernels these days, however, can address much more thanks to the physical address extensions (PAE), typically 64 GB. But that still means that each process can only address 2^32, or 4GB of RAM. Because "address lines" are not the same as "data lines". (Unless they are multiplexed, but conceptually they are still different. Anyway, engineers only do that when die space is more important that performance, and that hasn't been the case on the "desktop" is 20 years.) -- Seek truth from facts. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4c1f8755.50...@cox.net
Re: How to change the console into UTF-8 mode for FreeBSD kernels?
> > It's really annoying if the console isn't in UTF-8 mode as every bit of > > my system is in Unicode to prevent any compatibility problems. I run freebsd as my everyday node. Pure ascii is what it has. Unicode could be seen and written if you use uxterm in graphi- cal mode. Setting language and keyboard layout might be very different on debian, so I hesitate to answer for console mode. The bsd kernel and debian surrounding are not my cup of tea at this moment. Bsd tribes stick to ascii as possible. I would avoid to trick the kernel with unicode calls. Best regards Zoran -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20100621153847.ga...@faust
Re: Configuring the Huawei E620 dongle to work using wvdial
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Further to my original post in this thread, these lines in it seem to be the crucial ones: > --> Carrier detected. Waiting for prompt. > --> Don't know what to do! Starting pppd and hoping for the best. Wvdial appears to be waiting for a response but is not getting it; so it consequently disconnects the modem. Since the dongle modem I tried to use has not been registered or paid for -- either for the modem itself or for time on it (I want to pay as I go, rather than have a contract) -- I wonder whether it is locked. I asked one of the Vodafone people at the local shop whether the modem is locked until a Vodafone person unlocks it, whether or not a payment is made. He claimed that they are not locked. I don't think he is correct, and so my question to you is whether you know if such modems are locked until unlocked when someone buys one. I think they must be locked at first. Otherwise anybody could use it without paying. The Vodafone people know how to install these modems on machines using a Windows or Mac operating system, but they don't know what happens when the files stored on the memory part of the dongle are run. So, they would not know whether the modem would be locked or not, nor probably would they care as long as it works. If if did not they would not know what to do. I expect before the week is out to use the same dongle a Windows laptop. If works on such a machine after it is paid and some time is bought for it, and then afterwards it works on my Debian Lenny box, then I will know that the modem must have been locked when I was trying it earlier. In the meantime I would appreciate any views on the locking issue. Regards, Ken Heard -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.9 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEARECAAYFAkwfkJMACgkQlNlJzOkJmTdjdgCeIw0jeCJYYW69b5DnFQaUreul ONgAn02Y3evQhzslTagEELhEGj1vaBms =1syh -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4c1f9094.8070...@heard.name
Re: Torrents killing my conection
Dne, 21. 06. 2010 15:44:47 je Ron Johnson napisal(a): The why does it succeed when XP is the client, and for me when the torrent is "non-pirate"? Well, for one, XP is a castrated OS (the notorious limit on concurrent 'half-open' connections being just one of its many self-imposed limitations); if you could castrate your Debian in a similar way, it would probably become just as router-friendly, the question is, who'd really *want* a Debian that was *that* powerless. As for why it succeeds with "non-pirate" torrents, two possibilities come to mind: firstly, these torrents may be more correct/compliant, and the trackers may be more stable than the "pirate" ones; secondly, it could be related to the number of active p2p connections that get established for a particular torrent (you'll hardly overload a router with only a couple of active peers). Just my 2¢ -- Regards, Klistvud Certifiable Loonix User #481801 http://bufferoverflow.tiddlyspot.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1277140003.190...@compax
Re: Torrents killing my connection
On Mon, Jun 21, 2010 at 04:30:56AM -0400, ABS Doug wrote: > On Mon, Jun 21, 2010 at 12:22 AM, Huang, Tao wrote: > > > so the torrents render you wireless disconnected. > > > > if your wifi adapter driver supports auto-reconnecting, everything > > should be solved. but i have no idea on how to get there. > > > > correct me if i get it wrong. > > My visual indicator something is wrong is when Skype goes offline. The > signal meter shows a connection, but once Skype goes offline, I can't > do anything until I disconnect & reconnect. I'd be able to live with > the problem if there was a auto-reconnection, but since the connection > doesn't actually disconnect...? I have no real help to your specific problem, but you need to provide some solid useful data so others can debug the problem. Based on stuff in the other thread about what versions work and don't work, and the above, I recommend you do the following: 1. provide for each of the two Ubuntu's and Debian the output of: uname -a 2. provide for each of the two ubuntu's and debian the output of: lsmod 3. provide for the working ubuntu the output of: ifconfig -a iwconfig -a 4. provide for the broken ubuntu and debian *before* it breaks: ifconfig -a iwconfig -a 5. provide for the broken ubuntu and debian *after* it breaks, but before you do whatever you might do to fix it: ifconfig -a iwconfig -a 6. from any one of the version, provide the output of: lspci 7. in the debian version, open a terminal and run, as root, `tail -f /var/log/syslog`, then start a torrent that you know will fail. Watch the log output in the terminal and when the torrent fails note if there is any output. If there is any output that looks remotely relevant, then paste that in as well. The idea here is to give concrete information about known working states and known broken states so people can see the difference and maybe diagnose the problem. The output may be pretty long, so if you are uncomfortable submitting it in an email, then put it up on the web somewhere. A pastebin would be appropriate. hope this helps. A signature.asc Description: Digital signature
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Is there some functionality in apt-cache or aptitude for displaying recommended files, other than having to visually parse the output of "apt-cache show"? Basically, I'd just like to get a list of recommended packages from a list of installed or prospective packages without having to use the aptitude GUI. -- "Oh, look: rocks!" -- Doctor Who, "Destiny of the Daleks" -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20100621172747.ga15...@penguin.codegnome.org
Re: Torrents killing my conection
> On Mon, Jun 21, 2010 at 1:24 AM, ABS Doug wrote: > >> On Mon, Jun 21, 2010 at 2:04 AM, Mark wrote: >> >> > Exactly. I'm hoping his dvd download via Iceweasel fails, since >> that >> would >> > point directly to a driver issue. If it succeeds, that means >> the >> problemo >> > is with the torrent software. >> >> Iceweasel, jigdo both worked. Also I've tried I think 5 different >> torrent software. >> > > > Thanks for testing it, so at this point you know it has to be > something > specific to torrents - you can rule out any advice people are giving > about > buying a better router, blah blah blah, since it works in XP and > Ubuntu > 9.04. > > > On Mon, Jun 21, 2010 at 6:44 AM, Ron Johnson > wrote: > >> >> >> Then why does it succeed when XP is the client, and for me when >> the > torrent is "non-pirate"? > > > Yeah this is just a weird scenario now that he's said he can > download via > Iceweasel and jigdo in the same Debian installation. So it's not a > driver > issue apparently. > . I would still like to know the answer to one simple question. Does restarting the modem/router bring the network back up? If the answer is yes, then the problem is on the modem/router. Tim -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1b60da54c70c6f5b36b8cdd74fd821c6.squir...@192.168.1.100
Re: Torrents killing my conection
On Mon, Jun 21, 2010 at 11:12 AM, Tim Clewlow wrote: > > I would still like to know the answer to one simple question. > > Does restarting the modem/router bring the network back up? > > If the answer is yes, then the problem is on the modem/router. > How can this be true when the same machine, same hardware, different OS's downloads the torrent fine? The modem/router/ISP is common to all situations here. If the modem/router needs to be brought back up wouldn't it be because something in Debian or the non-working Ubuntu isn't handling the torrents properly?
Re: Showing recommended packages from cli
On Lu, 21 iun 10, 13:27:47, Todd A. Jacobs wrote: > Is there some functionality in apt-cache or aptitude for displaying > recommended files, other than having to visually parse the output of > "apt-cache show"? apt-cache depends also shows the recommended packages. > Basically, I'd just like to get a list of recommended packages from a > list of installed or prospective packages without having to use the > aptitude GUI. Maybe grep-dctrl (package dctrl-tools) can help with this. Regards, Andrei -- Offtopic discussions among Debian users and developers: http://lists.alioth.debian.org/mailman/listinfo/d-community-offtopic signature.asc Description: Digital signature
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Re: Torrents killing my conection
> On Mon, Jun 21, 2010 at 11:12 AM, Tim Clewlow > wrote: > >> >> I would still like to know the answer to one simple question. >> >> Does restarting the modem/router bring the network back up? >> >> If the answer is yes, then the problem is on the modem/router. >> > > How can this be true when the same machine, same hardware, different > OS's > downloads the torrent fine? The modem/router/ISP is common to all > situations here. If the modem/router needs to be brought back up > wouldn't > it be because something in Debian or the non-working Ubuntu isn't > handling > the torrents properly? > If the modem restart fixes things, then it must be a problem on the modem because nothing else has changed. In other words, the computers are all working fine, just waiting for the modem to start behaving normally again. As to why this happens at all. Not all operating systems are equal. Some systems can send bucket loads of new connections down the line very quickly, some (read windoze) have slow IO subsystems and so do not send multiple connection requests anywhere near as rapidly. I have seen modems (and had to throw them out) that worked fine on torrents from windows clients, but crashed very quickly when I ran nix/bsd torrent based clients. Tim. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/759353addf0ccc3c6a14776aabb65316.squir...@192.168.1.100
Re: Can't restart certain crashed applications without rebooting (in this case Noatun)
OK, I think I solved my problem. I use a script I wrote some years ago (named kpid) to kill tasks by name (at the time, I didn't know that killall could do that)--anyway, I thought my script was using kill -9, but instead it uses kill -15. So now I: * kill -9 any remaining processes named noatun * kill -9 artsd * then I can restart noatun Sometimes it seems that artsd starts automatically before I start noatun--in the cases when it doesn't, it seems to get started by noatun. Sorry for the noise! Randy Kramer On Monday 21 June 2010 09:46:27 am Randy Kramer wrote: > Hmm, as is too often the case, after sending an email seeking, I > start to get some other clues--I found a suggestion to restart > arts--I tried that, still no luck so I'm still looking for help (but > maybe I have some kind of clue now). > > Randy Kramer > > On Monday 21 June 2010 09:38:55 am Randy Kramer wrote: > > Sorry this is so long--maybe I can summarize the problem here, then > > you can go on and read the background and a more detailed > > explanation of the problem: > > > > Sometimes after a program hangs (in this case noatun), I have > > trouble restarting it without rebooting my entire system. I do > > look for all the processes associated with the application (noatun, > > using ps -Al | grep noatun) and kill them, with either kill -9 or > > kill -15, but afterwards, when I try to start the application, I > > just get a spinning hourglass indication in the taskbox (on the > > taskbar) and a small bouncing blue ball elsewhere on the screen, > > both of which eventually disappear without having started the > > application. > > > > Hmm, maybe with that you don't even need the Background and Problem > > listed below. I've tried googling, but don't really have a good > > clue for what to google. > > > > A dead end (I think): > > > > Oh, wait, I might have a clue: now I try to start noatun in a > > terminal (with & or without) and I very quickly (sometimes) get > > exit 255--hmm, on the next try I didn't get the exit 255--what does > > exit 255 mean?: > > > > r...@s17:~$ noatun & > > [2] 11248 > > [1] Exit 255 noatun > > r...@s17:~$ > > > > Well, I haven't found out what exit 255 means, but I don't think it > > matters, it doesn't consistently happen, just sometimes. > > > > Background: > > > > This is surely not a Debian specific question, but I'll try asking > > here to see if anyone can give me one or more hints--I've tried to > > do some googling, but really don't have a good clue for what to > > google. > > > > I've had the same thing happen for applications besides Noatun > > (iirc) (and on Linuxes that I used before installing Debian 5.0), > > but because the current problem is Noatun, I'll mention Noatun in > > this example. > > > > I was running Noatun and it hung. It may have been something I > > did--specifically, at the time it hung, I had the playlist up and > > was unchecking checkboxes on the playlist. > > > > In an effort to restart noatun, I looked (using ps -Al | grep > > noatun) for all noatun processes and killed them with (the first > > time) kill -9. Later (on subsequent attempts), I tried kill -15. > > > > Either one wipes out all the processes with noatun in the name. > > > > The problem: > > > > Here's the problem: when I go to restart noatun, it won't restart. > > On the taskbar (is that the right name in KDE) I see a task labeled > > noatun seemingly attempt to start--I see an hourglass spinning, and > > elsewhere on my screen I see some sort of small bouncing blue ball, > > but after 15 seconds or so, both disappear and noatun hasn't > > restarted. If I go look at the processes using ps -Al | grep > > noatun, I find something like the following: > > > > s17:~# ps -Al | grep noatun > > 1 S 1000 11039 3039 0 80 0 - 8589 - ?00:00:00 > > noatun 1 S 1000 11040 11039 0 80 0 - 9670 - ? > > 00:00:00 noatun 1 S 1000 11141 3039 0 80 0 - 8589 - ? > >00:00:00 noatun 1 Z 1000 11142 11141 0 80 0 - 0 - > > ? 00:00:00 noatun > > s17:~# > > > > If I wipe those out (using kill -9 or kill -15), they disappear, > > but when I try to noatun again I get the same result. > > > > In the past, the only way I found to recover from a situation like > > this was to reboot. (Potentially just restarting KDE might also > > solve the problem, but from my point of view, restarting KDE is as > > drastic a solution as rebooting, so when I think about restarting > > KDE I just go ahead and do a (cold) reboot with the hope of > > cleaning up any other possible "garbage" that might be floating > > around in my system.) > > > > I see that the one process is a Zombie. I've googled on things > > like zombie, process, noatun, restart, and combinations > > thereof--even a good suggestion on appropriate search terms might > > get me started here (of course, a nice clear explanation and course > > of action would be nicer). > > > > Thanks! > > Rand
Re: Torrents killing my conection
On 06/21/2010 03:37 PM, Tim Clewlow wrote: > As to why this happens at all. Not all operating systems are equal. > Some systems can send bucket loads of new connections down the line > very quickly, some (read windoze) have slow IO subsystems and so do > not send multiple connection requests anywhere near as rapidly. I > have seen modems (and had to throw them out) that worked fine on > torrents from windows clients, but crashed very quickly when I ran > nix/bsd torrent based clients. > For that matter, even different programs (or different versions of a same program) might behave differently in regard to how many connections are opened, in how much time, and so on. -- True, it returns "" for false, but "" is an even more interesting number than 0. -- Larry Wall in <199707300650.xaa05...@wall.org> Eduardo M KALINOWSKI edua...@kalinowski.com.br -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4c1fb893.1060...@kalinowski.com.br
Re: Lilo and Squeeze
Hello,
At fist: I don't read list 'debian-user'. I am the new developer of lilo.
See: http://alioth.debian.org/projects/lilo/
and: http://lilo.alioth.debian.org/
> There has been a lot of talk about lilo and squeeze on the list lately,
> but I don't really want to get into that argument. I have been using lilo
> for a dozen years, since I started using linux. I am comfortable with
> lilo.conf. I have never bothered to figure out grub's menu.lst and I
> certainly don't understand grub2's grub.cfg.
>
> I installed Eeebuntu on my eeepc when I got it. It was using grub. I
> have since installed Squeeze, since I am happier with pure Debian. That
> install uses grub2. I would like to continue using lilo.
This is the same for me.
> Now, lilo is still avaiilable in Squeeze, so I installed it and ran
> liloconfig. This resulted in an error saying that the root device might
> be a raid, or some other configuration that liloconfig could not handle,
I see: liloconfig is to old for Squeeze. Thanks for this hint.
This script needs some work.
> and that I should write my own lilo,conf. OK. I can do that. Having
> done so, however, and then running lilo, I get the following error:
>
> # lilo
> Warning: LBA32 addressing assumed
> Fatal: raid_setup: stat("UUID=5019cd9d-5d2e-4d7c-a6f4-0eccb5144c77")
At first: set 'lba32' at the beginning of the lilo.conf.
> configuration. My lilo.conf is as follows:
Please set this lines as following:
use old device names, i. e.
(note: inside lilo works interally with VolumeID's)
boot=/dev/sda # or similar device
:
for each image another UUID, i. e.
# partition /dev/sda1
root="UUID=5019cd9d-5d2e-4d7c-a6f4-0eccb5144c77"
To list all UUID's use the tool 'blkid' from the package e2fsprogs
(Lenny) or package util-linux (Squeeze).
> Can anyone tell me what is causing this? I have never had problems with
> lilo, before. It always 'just works'.
I hope this infos can help you.
Note: These config hints where tested with lilo version 22.8-8.1 (Squeeze)
Have a nice day,
Joachim (Germany)
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Re: Showing recommended packages from cli
On 21/06/10 14:20, Andrei Popescu wrote: > On Lu, 21 iun 10, 13:27:47, Todd A. Jacobs wrote: >> Is there some functionality in apt-cache or aptitude for displaying >> recommended files, other than having to visually parse the output of >> "apt-cache show"? > > apt-cache depends > > also shows the recommended packages. > >> Basically, I'd just like to get a list of recommended packages from a >> list of installed or prospective packages without having to use the >> aptitude GUI. > > Maybe grep-dctrl (package dctrl-tools) can help with this. aptitude search '?reverse-recommends(^package$)' The ^ and $ are needed because we want an exact match on the package, and aptitude expects a regular expression. -- Saludos, Felipe Sateler signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: Lilo and Squeeze
On Mon, 21 Jun 2010 15:56:01 -0400 (EDT), Joachim Wiedorn wrote:
>
> At fist: I don't read list 'debian-user'. I am the new developer of lilo.
> See: http://alioth.debian.org/projects/lilo/
> and: http://lilo.alioth.debian.org/
>
> Marc Shapiro wrote:
>> There has been a lot of talk about lilo and squeeze on the list lately,
>> but I don't really want to get into that argument. I have been using lilo
>> for a dozen years, since I started using linux. I am comfortable with
>> lilo.conf. I have never bothered to figure out grub's menu.lst and I
>> certainly don't understand grub2's grub.cfg.
>>
>> I installed Eeebuntu on my eeepc when I got it. It was using grub. I
>> have since installed Squeeze, since I am happier with pure Debian. That
>> install uses grub2. I would like to continue using lilo.
>
> This is the same for me.
>
>> Now, lilo is still avaiilable in Squeeze, so I installed it and ran
>> liloconfig. This resulted in an error saying that the root device might
>> be a raid, or some other configuration that liloconfig could not handle,
>
> I see: liloconfig is to old for Squeeze. Thanks for this hint.
> This script needs some work.
>>
>> and that I should write my own lilo,conf. OK. I can do that. Having
>> done so, however, and then running lilo, I get the following error:
>>
>> # lilo
>> Warning: LBA32 addressing assumed
>> Fatal: raid_setup: stat("UUID=5019cd9d-5d2e-4d7c-a6f4-0eccb5144c77")
>
> At first: set 'lba32' at the beginning of the lilo.conf.
>
>> configuration. My lilo.conf is as follows:
>
> Please set this lines as following:
>
> use old device names, i. e.
> (note: inside lilo works interally with VolumeID's)
> boot=/dev/sda # or similar device
> :
> for each image another UUID, i. e.
> # partition /dev/sda1
> root="UUID=5019cd9d-5d2e-4d7c-a6f4-0eccb5144c77"
So, you're saying that UUIDs are supported for root, but not for boot.
That means that you can boot either kernel (2.6.32-3 or 2.6.32-5),
but running lilo's map installer will fail if you use
boot=/dev/sda on the 2.6.32-3 kernel and it will fail if you
use boot=/dev/hda on the 2.6.32-5 kernel, right?
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Re: Grrrrrub2 again!!
On Sunday 20 June 2010 13:18:38 Tom H wrote: > On Thu, Jun 17, 2010 at 10:26 AM, Thierry Chatelet wrote: > > I did a new squeeze install on a desktop with dual boot, and install grub > > 2. System boot fine in debian, but $W was not present. No problem, I had > > this problem before and a simple update-grub solved it. But this time I > Your device.map must be incorrect. > > Create another as root > grub-mkdevicemap --no-floppy --device-map=/root/device.map > > Then test grub-probe > grub-probe --device-map=/root/device.map --target=drive --device /dev/sb > grub-probe --device-map=/root/device.map --target=drive --device /dev/sdb1 > grub-probe --device-map=/root/device.map --target=drive / > grub-probe --device-map=/root/device.map --target=drive /boot > grub-probe --device-map=/root/device.map --target=device / > grub-probe --device-map=/root/device.map --target=device /boot > > The first four should output the grub drives and the last two the dev > devices. > > I think that you could also delete /boot/grub/device.map (or move it > out of /boot/grub) and run the grub-probes without > "--device-map=/root/device.map". Thank you for your answer, but no luck, I did not managed not to have the error. So I try a reinstall rebuilding the VLM completely, and the error did not go away. So, I reinstalled again, without LVM and then it was OK. I wont have time to check again for the solution to the error as I have to give back the machine. Too bad, because I did not learn from this one. Thank you again. Thierry -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/201006212324.19110.tchate...@free.fr
Why does GNOME take so much time to tell that a screensaver-introduced password is erroneous?
Hi, I use GNOME. I have noticed that if I type some erroneous password to leave the screensaver mode, GNOME takes ~3 or 4 secs. to tell me that it is erroneous. If I type the correct password, I am directly sent in my session. Why does it take so much time to tell me that a password is erroneous? I can even know if I made a typo by looking at how much time it takes! Thanks. -- Merciadri Luca See http://www.student.montefiore.ulg.ac.be/~merciadri/ I use PGP. If there is an incompatibility problem with your mail client, please contact me. Nothing in life is to be feared; it is only to be understood. (Marie Curie) signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Administrating wview on a meteorologically-dedicated computer: tips / advices?
Hi, I am going to install and manage wview (see http://www.wviewweather.com/, not commercial) on an university computer for some project. I know that this is a really nice tool, but, as there are many chances that I will be going to install the whole from scratch (Debian, etc.) on a dedicated computer, do you have some advices / tips for such an installation? I guess no, but who knows? If somebody has already had some nice (or not) experiences with wview, or with a meteorologically-Debian-y-dedicated computer, I would be glad to here from you. Thanks folks! -- Merciadri Luca See http://www.student.montefiore.ulg.ac.be/~merciadri/ I use PGP. If there is an incompatibility problem with your mail client, please contact me. Where there's a will, there's a way. signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: Why does GNOME take so much time to tell that a screensaver-introduced password is erroneous?
On Mon, 21 Jun 2010 23:35:37 +0200 Merciadri Luca wrote: > Hi, > > I use GNOME. > > I have noticed that if I type some erroneous password to leave the > screensaver mode, GNOME takes ~3 or 4 secs. to tell me that it is > erroneous. If I type the correct password, I am directly sent in my > session. Why does it take so much time to tell me that a password is > erroneous? I can even know if I made a typo by looking at how much time > it takes! Same thing with xscreensaver. I think that a lot of software that asks for a password behaves like this, perhaps to prevent brute-forcing? I'm not sure if brute-forcing is possible on a GUI, though. Celejar -- foffl.sourceforge.net - Feeds OFFLine, an offline RSS/Atom aggregator mailmin.sourceforge.net - remote access via secure (OpenPGP) email ssuds.sourceforge.net - A Simple Sudoku Solver and Generator -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20100621174721.6d022ca4.cele...@gmail.com
Re: Administrating wview on a meteorologically-dedicated computer: tips / advices?
On 06/21/2010 04:41 PM, Merciadri Luca wrote: Hi, I am going to install and manage wview (see http://www.wviewweather.com/, not commercial) on an university computer for some project. I know that this is a really nice tool, but, as there are many chances that I will be going to install the whole from scratch (Debian, etc.) on a dedicated computer, do you have some advices / tips for such an installation? I guess no, but who knows? If somebody has already had some nice (or not) experiences with wview, or with a meteorologically-Debian-y-dedicated computer, I would be glad to here from you. What more do you need than an external monitor connected to a cheap netbook? -- Seek truth from facts. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4c1fe24f.40...@cox.net
Re: Why does GNOME take so much time to tell that a screensaver-introduced password is erroneous?
On 06/21/2010 04:47 PM, Celejar wrote: On Mon, 21 Jun 2010 23:35:37 +0200 Merciadri Luca wrote: Hi, I use GNOME. I have noticed that if I type some erroneous password to leave the screensaver mode, GNOME takes ~3 or 4 secs. to tell me that it is erroneous. If I type the correct password, I am directly sent in my session. Why does it take so much time to tell me that a password is erroneous? I can even know if I made a typo by looking at how much time it takes! Same thing with xscreensaver. I think that a lot of software that asks for a password behaves like this, perhaps to prevent brute-forcing? I'm not sure if brute-forcing is possible on a GUI, though. Since I notice the same issue when logging in from the console, could it be a problem with libpam? -- Seek truth from facts. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4c1fe2a5.9010...@cox.net
Re: Why does GNOME take so much time to tell that a screensaver-introduced password is erroneous?
Hi! On Mon, Jun 21, 2010 at 05:47:21PM -0400, Celejar wrote: > On Mon, 21 Jun 2010 23:35:37 +0200 > Merciadri Luca wrote: > > > I use GNOME. > > > > I have noticed that if I type some erroneous password to leave the > > screensaver mode, GNOME takes ~3 or 4 secs. to tell me that it is > > erroneous. If I type the correct password, I am directly sent in my > > session. Why does it take so much time to tell me that a password is > > erroneous? I can even know if I made a typo by looking at how much time > > it takes! I believe that artificially introducing a delay when wrong credentials are presented is standard operating procedure for most things where a password must be entered. As far as I know, there are several rationales behind this: - To frustrate anybody trying to guess passwords. Being allowed to try many combinations in a short time helps make things difficult for attackers, and does not help legitimate users. - To avoid "leaking" information: If entering a "nearly-correct" password responds faster than when entering an "obviously-wrong" password, an attacker can use this to improve the guesses - sort of triangulating. If it always takes the same amount of time before the "wrong username/password" reply comes, this information is not available to a prospective attacker. I presume that some implementations add a random delay to obfuscate things further. All in all, this makes things more difficult for attackers, whilst only being a minor inconvenience for the "good guys": a good trade-off. > Same thing with xscreensaver. I think that a lot of software that asks > for a password behaves like this, perhaps to prevent brute-forcing? > I'm not sure if brute-forcing is possible on a GUI, though. I suspect this is simply a problem of aquiring the right tools for the job: - X events can be generated by software (e.g. the xmacro package). This is evident if you use VNC to control a remote machine: the screen saver is none-the-wiser to the fact that you are remote. - USB keyboards can probably be simulated by other devices. I would not be surprised to find linux tools that allow a PC to act as a USB device, rather than USB "master". From here on, it is just software again. and probably lots of other ways... -- Karl E. Jorgensen IT Operations Manager -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20100621221147.ge19...@hawking.jorgensen.org.uk
Simple dual boot - grub issue
Hello list, I have had a laptop wearing Linux solely over the last few years and today I decided I'd install a Windows partition on it, with aim to dual boot. After preparing an NTFS partition by using the gparted live CD, I installed Windows 7 on the newly created partition. Thus, so far I have the primary partitions /dev/sda1, an ext3 partition holding my Squeeze installation, and /dev/sda2, holding my Windows installation. There's also the /dev/sda3 "extended" partition and the /dev/sda5 "swap" partition. Here's a gparted screenshot taken from within my debian installation to prove my claims: http://img199.imageshack.us/img199/1819/mypartitions.jpg When the installation was finished, I would only boot into Windows 7. Somewhat accustomed to this loss of the Grub boot loader, I booted from my Squeeze installation CD, entered Rescue Mode and reinstalled GRUB in the MBR of my only hard drive (that corresponds to the /dev/sda1 partition). However, even though I reclaimed Grub, Grub would not detect my Windows partition on bootup, and give me the options of boot into debian. I tried reinstalling GRUB on other partitions, but Windows was (and still is) unbootable on startup. I had a look at my grub.cfg and didn't see a "menuentry" corresponding to the windows partition, even after running update-grub. What are the steps that I need to follow in order to dual boot my system? The only OS I have currently access to through Grub is Debian (with the option of two kernels, but that's not really relevant). Thanks. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/aanlktikrja8ialqovqvbyd4omfvnq5w-bvgtkuzuo...@mail.gmail.com
Re: Torrents killing my conection
On Sun, Jun 20, 2010 at 11:43:21PM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote: > snip. > From what I can remember of his claims, it (downloading a torrent) over > the wireless connection works fine with XP and with UNR. It's just some > form of straight Debian where torrent downloads fail. I'm not so sure. He posted this same problem on the Ubuntu-users list. I think that was before he switched to Debian. -- Bob Holtzman Key ID: 8D549279 "If you think you're getting free lunch, check the price of the beer" signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Torrents killing my conection
On Mon, Jun 21, 2010 at 11:37 AM, Tim Clewlow wrote: > As to why this happens at all. Not all operating systems are equal. > Some systems can send bucket loads of new connections down the line > very quickly, some (read windoze) have slow IO subsystems and so do > not send multiple connection requests anywhere near as rapidly. I > have seen modems (and had to throw them out) that worked fine on > torrents from windows clients, but crashed very quickly when I ran > nix/bsd torrent based clients. > This makes sense, I guess it's just my opinion but if I knew Ubuntu 9.04 _and_ Windows both downloaded the torrent fine, I would just use one of those instead of replacing the modem (if that turns out to be the case). Who's to say the modem he replaces it with would work? See what I mean, there's already a solution available (2 actually, 9.04 and Windows) so it seems like he's in the space of diminishing returns now.
Re: Torrents killing my conection
On Monday 21 June 2010 23:38:21 Mark wrote: > On Mon, Jun 21, 2010 at 11:37 AM, Tim Clewlow wrote: > > As to why this happens at all. Not all operating systems are equal. > > Some systems can send bucket loads of new connections down the line > > very quickly, some (read windoze) have slow IO subsystems and so do > > not send multiple connection requests anywhere near as rapidly. I > > have seen modems (and had to throw them out) that worked fine on > > torrents from windows clients, but crashed very quickly when I ran > > nix/bsd torrent based clients. > > This makes sense, I guess it's just my opinion but if I knew Ubuntu 9.04 > _and_ Windows both downloaded the torrent fine, I would just use one of > those +1 Lisi -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/201006212352.13925.lisi.re...@gmail.com
Re: Simple dual boot - grub issue
On Monday 21 June 2010 23:56:53 Jason Filippou wrote: > Hello list, > > I have had a laptop wearing Linux solely over the last few years and > today I decided I'd install a Windows partition on it, with aim to > dual boot. After preparing an NTFS partition by using the gparted live > CD, I installed Windows 7 on the newly created partition. Thus, so far > I have the primary partitions /dev/sda1, an ext3 partition holding my > Squeeze installation, and /dev/sda2, holding my Windows installation. > There's also the /dev/sda3 "extended" partition and the /dev/sda5 > "swap" partition. Here's a gparted screenshot taken from within my > debian installation to prove my claims: > http://img199.imageshack.us/img199/1819/mypartitions.jpg > > When the installation was finished, I would only boot into Windows 7. > Somewhat accustomed to this loss of the Grub boot loader, I booted > from my Squeeze installation CD, entered Rescue Mode and reinstalled > GRUB in the MBR of my only hard drive (that corresponds to the > /dev/sda1 partition). However, even though I reclaimed Grub, Grub > would not detect my Windows partition on bootup, and give me the > options of boot into debian. I tried reinstalling GRUB on other > partitions, but Windows was (and still is) unbootable on startup. > > I had a look at my grub.cfg and didn't see a "menuentry" corresponding > to the windows partition, even after running update-grub. What are the > steps that I need to follow in order to dual boot my system? The only > OS I have currently access to through Grub is Debian (with the option > of two kernels, but that's not really relevant). > > Thanks. Try 'update-grub' as root Thierry -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/201006220054.29516.tchate...@free.fr
Re: Simple dual boot - grub issue
On Ma, 22 iun 10, 00:56:53, Jason Filippou wrote: > > I had a look at my grub.cfg and didn't see a "menuentry" corresponding > to the windows partition, even after running update-grub. What are the > steps that I need to follow in order to dual boot my system? The only > OS I have currently access to through Grub is Debian (with the option > of two kernels, but that's not really relevant). Grub does not detect other OSes, the package os-prober does. Make sure it is installed and rerun update-grub. If it still won't detect your Windows you can try also writing a custom entry in the file /etc/grub.d/40_custom, but I bet the os-prober maintainer would want to know about it. Regards, Andrei -- Offtopic discussions among Debian users and developers: http://lists.alioth.debian.org/mailman/listinfo/d-community-offtopic signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: QEMU on Debian issues
Disc Magnet wrote: > I have installed QEMU on my Debian Testing box. I have GNOME running > on my host Debian [...] > 1. The IP address of the QEMU system appears to be in 10.30.*.* range. > However, the IP address of my host system is in 192.168.2.*. I can't > ping QEMU from host or vice versa. When you start your kvm/qemu emulator with "-net nic -net user" you get a local IP address such as 10.30.2.16 (x.x.x.16-31). In this instance the host would be assigned 10.30.2.2 (x.x.x.2). You can use these local addresses for transfering data locally. If you want to get your kvm/qemu system to talk to the rest of the world you should be able to do that (the default route should be set via your internal host address, 10.30.2.2) and the host will NAT outbound connections. Use the -redir option to map specific ports on your host back to the guest. Or read up on the options for the kvm/qemu to handle bridging. Particularly, note that the guest will not necessarily be able to see your 192.168.2.* systems (including that IP address on your host) without a route set via the guest-facing IP address of your host. > 2. Anyway to copy paste across QEMU system and host system? I'm not aware of any way of doing this. > 3. The color of the console font appears to be very light shade of > gray that strains my eyes. Anyway to change the font color? There should be an option in the guest to configure its console font characteristics. (But I can't help you futher on this one.) Chris -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/8q65f7xdah@news.roaima.co.uk
Re: Administrating wview on a meteorologically-dedicated computer: tips / advices?
On Monday 21 June 2010 13:41:12 Merciadri Luca wrote: > Hi, > > I am going to install and manage wview (see > http://www.wviewweather.com/, not commercial) on an university computer > for some project. I know that this is a really nice tool, but, as there > are many chances that I will be going to install the whole from scratch > (Debian, etc.) on a dedicated computer, do you have some advices / tips > for such an installation? I guess no, but who knows? If somebody has > already had some nice (or not) experiences with wview, or with a > meteorologically-Debian-y-dedicated computer, I would be glad to here > from you. > > Thanks folks! Cool stuff. Here is a link to some sites using wview, it shows the hardware the sites are using. http://www.wviewweather.com/sites/index.html I would consider -- Peace, Greg -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/201006211533.39166.gomadtr...@gci.net
Re: Why does GNOME take so much time to tell that a screensaver-introduced password is erroneous?
On Mon, 21 Jun 2010 23:11:50 +0100 "Karl E. Jorgensen" wrote: > Hi! > > On Mon, Jun 21, 2010 at 05:47:21PM -0400, Celejar wrote: ... > > Same thing with xscreensaver. I think that a lot of software that asks > > for a password behaves like this, perhaps to prevent brute-forcing? > > I'm not sure if brute-forcing is possible on a GUI, though. > > I suspect this is simply a problem of aquiring the right tools for the job: > > - X events can be generated by software (e.g. the xmacro package). This is > evident if you use VNC to control a remote machine: the screen saver is > none-the-wiser to the fact that you are remote. > > - USB keyboards can probably be simulated by other devices. I would not be > surprised to find linux tools that allow a PC to act as a USB device, rather > than USB "master". From here on, it is just software again. > > and probably lots of other ways... Good points; I should have realized this. Celejar -- foffl.sourceforge.net - Feeds OFFLine, an offline RSS/Atom aggregator mailmin.sourceforge.net - remote access via secure (OpenPGP) email ssuds.sourceforge.net - A Simple Sudoku Solver and Generator -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20100621194402.bf3f1c1d.cele...@gmail.com
Debian as an SSL VPN server or gateway?
Hi, Assuming there is even such a server software available today... Is anyone running Debian as an SSL VPN gateway for Windows 7 64-bit clients and if so, can you discuss your configuration or pitfalls to beware of when just getting started? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4c1ffac5.70...@iotk.net
Re: Torrents killing my connection
On Mon, Jun 21, 2010 at 09:26:17AM +0800, Huang, Tao wrote: > On Mon, Jun 21, 2010 at 5:30 AM, ABS Doug wrote: > [snip] > > I rent a room. The router is in a different part of the house. WiFi is > > included in the rent. I already asked about moving the router, but > > that isn't gunna happen. The router isn't even mine. I might end up > > trying to run a splitter at some point, but right now it's just not an > > option. I do appreciate all the advice. I'm gunna try a safe torrent > > right now. > > torrents over wireless can be very tricky. > i guess a cable would solve your problem. Don't agree with this statement at all. Been using wireless and bitorrent for some time. Not any different than wired. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20100622000210.ga15...@laptop.nodomain.bell.ca
[nnOT] Learning in the Linux community
Dear Debian users, Do you consider yourself part of a larger Gnu/Linux free and open source software community? Whether you've just starting clicking around in Etch or you've been tweaking your kernel for years, we are interested in learning about if, and how, you've learned (and possibly taught) as part of the Gnu/Linux community. As part of our graduate studies, we, Don Davis and Iffat Jabeen, are compiling a survey of Gnu/Linux users and their possible learning experiences within the context of the Gnu/Linux FOSS community. The results of the study will be presented to other Education Technologists and may further the education world's understanding of the Gnu/Linux community. Please share your experiences via the following link: http://survey.education.txstate.edu/mrIWeb/mrIWeb.dll?I.Project=LPP Your assistance in distributing the survey link to LUGs and Gnu/Linux oriented forums is greatly appreciated. Thank you for your time, Don Davis and Iffat Jabeen -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4c1ffdeb.2060...@reglue.org
Re: Ralink 2500 connects at 1M
On Mon, Jun 21, 2010 at 10:21:40PM +0800, xuyuanwei wrote: > 在 2010-06-21一的 06:15 -0400，Rob Owens写道： > > My Lenny laptop with a Ralink 2500 wireless card always connects at a > > speed of 1M, which is unbearably slow. I can issue this command which > > fixes it, but I have to do it every time: > > > > iwconfig wlan0 rate 54M > > Try: In /etc/network/interfaces, in the wlan0 section,add " pre-up > iwconfig wlan0 rate 54M" below the "iface ..." line. Well, wlan0 does not show up in /etc/network/interfaces because it is handled by NetworkManager. -Rob -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20100622011317.ga2...@aurora.owens.net
Re: Ralink 2500 connects at 1M
On Mon, Jun 21, 2010 at 06:15:29AM -0400, Rob Owens wrote: > My Lenny laptop with a Ralink 2500 wireless card always connects at a > speed of 1M, which is unbearably slow. I can issue this command which > fixes it, but I have to do it every time: > > iwconfig wlan0 rate 54M > > Anybody know a better way? > I solved it with this script: /etc/NetworkManager/dispatcher.d/20speedup #!/bin/sh case "$2" in up) iwconfig $1 rate 54M ;; down) ## placeholder ;; esac -Rob -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20100622015544.ga2...@aurora.owens.net
Re: 32bits and 3G memory limit
Aaron Toponce put forth on 6/21/2010 10:09 AM: > A 32-bit system, is a system that can address at most 2^32 bits of > memory for any given process. Most 32-bit kernels these days, however, > can address much more thanks to the physical address extensions (PAE), > typically 64 GB. But that still means that each process can only address > 2^32, or 4GB of RAM. This 4GB process space limit is a user space process limit. There is no limit on the kernel itself. A PAE enabled kernel can directly use all 64GB of RAM for its own needs, i.e. for page/buffer cache, ramdisk, etc. -- Stan -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4c201863.8030...@hardwarefreak.com
Re: NetworkManager and if-up.d
On Mon, Jun 21, 2010 at 06:18:49AM -0400, Rob Owens wrote: > I need to run a script every time my wireless connection comes up, but > putting one in /etc/network/if-up.d does not work. NetworkManager has > provisions for scripts in /etc/NetworkManager/dispatcher.d, but it looks > like the script that is already there (01ifupdown) is designed to run > everything in if-up.d -- but it's not working. > > How can I get a script to run when NetworkManager brings up my wireless > connection? > I'm still not sure why /etc/NetworkManager/dispatcher.d/01ifupdown doesn't seem to be working, but I solved my problem with this script: /etc/NetworkManager/dispatcher.d/20speedup #!/bin/sh case "$2" in up) iwconfig $1 rate 54M ;; down) ## placeholder ;; esac -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20100622015935.gb2...@aurora.owens.net
Re: Debian as an SSL VPN server or gateway?
On 06/21/10 19:50, vr wrote: > Hi, > > Assuming there is even such a server software available today... Is > anyone running Debian as an SSL VPN gateway for Windows 7 64-bit clients > and if so, can you discuss your configuration or pitfalls to beware of > when just getting started? > > I am running a Debian machine as a router on my home LAN and also as an OpenVPN server. The installation was fairly straightforward (as shown in various web pages obtained via google). The only tricky part is to make sure that your LAN network is different from the remove LAN network from where a client may want to connect. So if your LAN network is 192.168.0.0/24, then a remote VPN client also on the same numeric network will have problems. I just made my LAN network a weird network. The VPN clients have an IP address of 172.16.x.0/24. Other than that, most of the stuff worked quite well. -- Please reply to this list only. I read this list on its corresponding newsgroup on gmane.org. Replies sent to my email address are just filtered to a folder in my mailbox and get periodically deleted without ever having been read. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/hvp6hk$6f...@dough.gmane.org
Re: Torrents killing my conection
Mark put forth on 6/21/2010 1:20 PM: > On Mon, Jun 21, 2010 at 11:12 AM, Tim Clewlow wrote: > >> >> I would still like to know the answer to one simple question. >> >> Does restarting the modem/router bring the network back up? >> >> If the answer is yes, then the problem is on the modem/router. >> > > How can this be true when the same machine, same hardware, different OS's > downloads the torrent fine? The modem/router/ISP is common to all > situations here. If the modem/router needs to be brought back up wouldn't > it be because something in Debian or the non-working Ubuntu isn't handling > the torrents properly? I have a perl application that I use to pull rDNS names for all IPs in any network up to a size /16 totally in parallel. For a /16 query, the application will send 65,536 _simultaneous_ UDP packets to remote DNS servers. This absolutely melts every consumer router on the market. Some just stop functioning and require a reboot. Some have hard coded UDP flood protection on both the public and private interfaces and simply drop excessive packets, allowing "normal" UDP traffic to flow after a timeout period, usually a few seconds to a minute or more. I have a 2nd version of this perl application that sends the queries in batches instead of all at once. The batch size is configurable, allowing one to "tickle the dragon" to find the settings that work fine just below the melting point. These applications behave slightly differently on different flavors of *nix and with different versions of perl and different versions of the required perl modules. Thus, with the same router, I could take a few different *nix OS flavors and perl versions, blowing up the router with some, and not denting it with others. It's all about the packet load you push through the router. It's absolutely normal for setups that "seem" the same to nuke the router, because once you peek under the hood, they aren't really behaving the same at all. Take a peek under the hood. :) -- Stan -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4c20361c.7090...@hardwarefreak.com
Re: Torrents killing my conection
On Mon, Jun 21, 2010 at 9:03 PM, Stan Hoeppner wrote: > > Thus, with the same router, I could take a few different *nix OS flavors > and > perl versions, blowing up the router with some, and not denting it with > others. > > It's all about the packet load you push through the router. It's > absolutely > normal for setups that "seem" the same to nuke the router, because once you > peek under the hood, they aren't really behaving the same at all. > > Take a peek under the hood. :) > Interesting, so is the router to blame or the OS? Because you're fixing the problem by the OS, not changing the router. Short of people buying beefy commercial grade routers for home usage torrent downloading, what's the solution?
Re: Torrents killing my conection
Mark put forth on 6/21/2010 11:13 PM: > On Mon, Jun 21, 2010 at 9:03 PM, Stan Hoeppner wrote: >> Thus, with the same router, I could take a few different *nix OS flavors >> and >> perl versions, blowing up the router with some, and not denting it with >> others. >> >> It's all about the packet load you push through the router. It's >> absolutely >> normal for setups that "seem" the same to nuke the router, because once you >> peek under the hood, they aren't really behaving the same at all. >> >> Take a peek under the hood. :) >> > > Interesting, so is the router to blame or the OS? The answer isn't a simple either/or. You can't simply lay blame either. It's a balancing act. If you're of the opinion that any consumer router should be able to take anything you throw at it, then the router is to blame. But we all know that "you get what you pay for". In that sense, it's not the router's fault but the customer's for buying "cheap" or "less than capable". Sure, the consumer didn't know it at the time of the router purchase, but hay, that's life. That's why Walmart sells a $69 lawnmower and a $269 lawnmower. They both should be able to mow any amount of grass on any terrain _forever_ without breaking right? (laughs) _WRONG_. The $69 mower will last an owner of a large yard for a season, maybe two. Then it will fail. One personality type will draw the mower back to Walmart and scream and shout at the customer service people making all kinds of demands. The other personality type will realize he bought a cheap fucking mower which failed after two seasons, and he'll go back and buy the $269 mower which may likely last 10 seasons. Over 99% of all consumer broadband users have a "$69 mower" that their ISP gave them free of charge during service connection. Somewhere between 1% and 10% of these users really hammer their free "$69 mower", then complain when it fails to perform the way they expect. > Because you're fixing the > problem by the OS, not changing the router. No, I'm actually fixing the problem by changing the application to work around the limitations of the routers. When mentioned some combos break the router and others do not, picking one that doesn't isn't a solution. The next aptitude safe-upgrade may cause one's apps to start breaking the router. > Short of people buying beefy > commercial grade routers for home usage torrent downloading, what's the > solution? _IF_ indeed Debian/Ubuntu users are nuking their routers with torrent traffic, then the solution is the same as the rDNS tool solution I use to keep from UDP flooding my router: You modify the application, or tweak its settings (if such settings are tweakable), to keep it from melting the router with its traffic pattern/load. Simple. _IF_ it is unacceptable to such users to have to "slow down" their torrents, and thus they aren't willing to change the packet behavior of their app, then they simply have to pony up and buy a better router that doesn't melt under the load. If this is truly a problem in the wild with torrent users, there will be thousands of forum and list posts on the net containing lists of models of wired and wireless routers that have been verified as good choices for torrent users. I'm not a torrent user so I have no clue what goes on in this world. However, just like everywhere else, if there is a widespread problem in a community, there will exists plenty of information online about said issue. In the case of the original OP, he doesn't own or control his router, so this is not an option for him. His only option is to find an OS/application combo that doesn't break things, or tweak one that is breaking things until it no longer does so. -- Stan -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4c204066.90...@hardwarefreak.com
