surreal गप्पा मारू इच्छि त आहेत

2010-05-19 Thread surreal
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surreal Google ची छान नवीन उत्पादने वापरून संपर्कात राहू इच्छि‍त आहेत.

आपल्याकडे आधीपासूनच Gmail किंवा Google Talk असल्यास, येथे भेट द्या:
http://mail.google.com/mail/b-97b6b71b69-186487529e-tvTcveSG86ea615M4tUn2TdPpGw
आपल्याला surreal सह गप्पा मारण्यास सक्षम होण्यासाठी हा दुवा क्लिक करणे
आवश्यक आहे.

Gmail - Google कडून 2,800 मेगाबाइटपेक्षा अधिक संचयासह एक विनामूल्य
ईमेल खाते - मिळविण्यासाठी आणि surreal सह गप्पा मारण्यासाठी, येथे भेट
द्या:
http://mail.google.com/mail/a-97b6b71b69-186487529e-tvTcveSG86ea615M4tUn2TdPpGw

Gmail प्रदान करते: - Gmail मध्ये त्वरित संदेशन
- शक्तिशाली स्पॅम संरक्षण
-  आपले संदेश शोधण्यासाठी अंगभूत शोध आणि ईमेल "संभाषणा" मध्ये संयोजित
करण्याचा उपयोगी मार्ग

- कोणत्याही पॉप-अप जाहिराती किंवा अलक्ष्यित बॅनर नाही - फक्त मजकूर
जाहिराती आणि आपल्या संदेशांमधील सामग्रीशी संबंधित माहिती

हे सर्व आणि तेही आपल्यासाठी विनामूल्य आहे. परंतु थांबा, येथे अजूनही
आहे! Gmail खाते उघडून, आपल्याला Google ची त्वरित संदेशन सेवा Google
Talk मध्ये देखील प्रवेश मिळतो:

http://www.google.com/talk/

Google Talk प्रदान करते:
- वेब-आधारित गप्पा ज्या आपण डाउनलोड केल्याशिवाय कोठेही वापरू शकता
- आपल्या Gmail खात्यासह समक्रमित केलेली संपर्क सूची
- आपण Google Talk client डाउनलोड करता तेव्हा, विनामूल्य उच्च
गुणवत्तेचे PC ते PC व्हॉइस कॉल


आम्ही नवीन वैशिष्ट्ये जोडण्यासाठी आणि सुधारणा करण्यासाठी कठोर परिश्रम
घेत आहोत, म्हणून आम्ही नियमितपणे आपल्या टिप्पण्या आणि सूचनांसाठी देखील
विचारू. आम्ही आमची उत्पादने अधिक चांगली बनविण्यात आपल्या मदतीची
प्रशंसा करतो!

धन्यवाद,
Google कार्यसंघ

Gmail आणि Google Talk बद्दल अधिक जाणून घेण्यासाठी, येथे भेट द्या:
http://mail.google.com/mail/help/about.html
http://www.google.com/talk/about.html

(या संदेशातील URL वर क्लिक करुन कार्य होत नसेल, तर आपल्या ब्राउझरच्या
अ‍ॅड्रेस बारमध्ये त्या कॉपी आणि पेस्ट करा.)


Diffing .po files

2010-05-19 Thread Andrei Popescu
[Sorry for the cross-post. Please follow-up as you see fit and I'll 
summarize for the other list. No need to CC me as I'm subscribed to both 
lists]

Hello,

While (trying to) review changes to a large .po file with relatively few 
strings changed I started looking for some way to show only the changed 
strings, or at least find a way to easily spot them out.

Google searches have so far found only 
http://markmail.org/thread/zyxbczw6haro6bmk#query:po%20diff+page:1+mid:a5ym75hv2vztkmde+state:results
which seems to talk about some GUI tool. My goal is to do this in text 
only, because I want to paste (parts of) the output in e-mail.

Since I didn't find anything suitable I started patching together a .po 
syntax highlighting that includes wdiff highlighting. The problem I'm 
seeing right now is that wdiff will include " (double quotes) *inside* 
its markers, thus breaking the .po highlighting:

[-#, fuzzy-]
msgid "Exit installer"
msgstr "Părăsește programul de [-instalare demonstrativ"-] {+instalare"+}

I was expecting something like this:

[-#, fuzzy-]
msgid "Exit installer"
msgstr "Părăsește programul de [-instalare demonstrativ-] {+instalare+}"

same thing happens with other punctuation:

[-#, fuzzy
#| msgid "Choose a locale:"-]
msgid "System locale:"
msgstr [-"Alegeți o localizare:"-] {+"Locale sistem:"+}

My guess is wdiff uses spaces as word delimiter, but the man page is 
silent about this and web searches also didn't turn up anything.

Any hints or other ideas how to fix this?

Regards,
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Re: Diffing .po files

2010-05-19 Thread Andrei Popescu
On Mi,19.mai.10, 11:54:26, Andrei Popescu wrote:
> 
> Any hints or other ideas how to fix this?

Forgot to mention:

wdiff -l old.po new.po | less

would work, but it shows garbled output instead of the Romanian special 
characters, if such characters are *inside* the changed string.

vimdiff with a small enough font (to fit everything on the screen) is 
usable, but a solution to the wdiff problem would be much better.

Regards,
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Re: Diffing .po files

2010-05-19 Thread Mattias Põldaru
Ühel kenal päeval, K, 2010-05-19 kell 12:24, kirjutas Andrei Popescu:
> On Mi,19.mai.10, 11:54:26, Andrei Popescu wrote:
> > 
> > Any hints or other ideas how to fix this?
> 
> Forgot to mention:
> 
> wdiff -l old.po new.po | less
> 
> would work, but it shows garbled output instead of the Romanian special 
> characters, if such characters are *inside* the changed string.
> 
> vimdiff with a small enough font (to fit everything on the screen) is 
> usable, but a solution to the wdiff problem would be much better.
> 
> Regards,
> Andrei


Try doing msgconv --no-location on .po files before doing diff -du, you
could write script for that. It actually even makes sense to keep local
repositories all without location lines, so svn logs will be also clean.


Mattias



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Re: Accelerating directory's content's viewing: how, is directory is huge?

2010-05-19 Thread Merciadri Luca
Ron Johnson wrote:
> On 05/18/2010 03:56 PM, Merciadri Luca wrote:
>> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
>> Hash: SHA1
>>
>> Ron Johnson  writes:
>>
>>> Don't use Nautilus, or reorganize your directory structure.
>> Okay. Then, for browsing big directories with a GUI, which GUI do you
>> advice to use? Thanks.
>
> I wouldn't.  (Real Men use the CLI.)
>
> Anyway... there are many lightweight file managers in Debian.  I'd
> install a bunch and see which is the least slow.
>
Okay. As I belong to Real Men, I will use CLI(!)

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Re: Accelerating directory's content's viewing: how, is directory is huge?

2010-05-19 Thread Merciadri Luca
Thanks, that did the trick!

Manon Metten wrote:
> On Tue, May 18, 2010 at 8:16 PM, Merciadri Luca
>  wrote:
>
>
>   
>> I have many media files in some specific directory (folder, call it as
>> you want). Loading the folder takes ~30 sec., even if I am using quite
>> fast HDDs, etc. They're all on the same partition. I have disabled
>> previewing, or thumbnails.
>>
>> How can I do to make this process faster?
>> 
>
>
> Hi Luca,
>
> If you're using ext2/ext3, turning off dir/file access time might help.
> Edit /etc/fstab and add noatime,nodiratime on the appropriate line,
> like in the example below:
>
> /dev/hdb2   /home   ext3   defaults,noatime,nodiratime   0   2
>
> Manon.
>
>
>   


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Re: Accelerating directory's content's viewing: how, is directory is huge?

2010-05-19 Thread Merciadri Luca
I wanted to say that it now takes some seconds of less. I think that I'm
going to use CLI, no problem.

Merciadri Luca wrote:
> Thanks, that did the trick!
>
> Manon Metten wrote:
>   
>> On Tue, May 18, 2010 at 8:16 PM, Merciadri Luca
>>  wrote:
>>
>>
>>   
>> 
>>> I have many media files in some specific directory (folder, call it as
>>> you want). Loading the folder takes ~30 sec., even if I am using quite
>>> fast HDDs, etc. They're all on the same partition. I have disabled
>>> previewing, or thumbnails.
>>>
>>> How can I do to make this process faster?
>>> 
>>>   
>> Hi Luca,
>>
>> If you're using ext2/ext3, turning off dir/file access time might help.
>> Edit /etc/fstab and add noatime,nodiratime on the appropriate line,
>> like in the example below:
>>
>> /dev/hdb2   /home   ext3   defaults,noatime,nodiratime   0   2
>>
>> Manon.
>>
>>
>>   
>> 
>
>
>   


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quality_problem

2010-05-19 Thread steef

with this command:

st...@lenny:~$ mencoder /home/steef/Desktop/beast.mkv -ovc lavc 
vcodec=mpeg4:vhq:vbitrate=-70 -oac mp3lame -lameopts vbr=3 -o 
/home/steef/Desktop/beast.avi
it is possible to convert .mkv-files into .avi files. only the 
picture-quality is really bad in the derived .avi-file. what can i do to 
make this better allthough googling && told me a vbitrate of -70 
should give dvd-quality. the output however is not better than a 
(v)bitrate of 400. what did i do wrong or, maybe, good.


regards,

steef


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Re: Accelerating directory's content's viewing: how, is directory is huge?

2010-05-19 Thread John A. Sullivan III
On Wed, 2010-05-19 at 12:51 +0200, Merciadri Luca wrote:
>
> >> I have many media files in some specific directory (folder, call it as
> >> you want). Loading the folder takes ~30 sec., even if I am using quite
> >> fast HDDs, etc. They're all on the same partition. I have disabled
> >> previewing, or thumbnails.
> >>
> >> How can I do to make this process faster?
> >
> >
> > If you're using ext2/ext3, turning off dir/file access time might help.
> > Edit /etc/fstab and add noatime,nodiratime on the appropriate line,
> > like in the example below:
> >
> > /dev/hdb2   /home   ext3   defaults,noatime,nodiratime   0   2
> >
Apparently noatime implies nodiratime.  Thanks - John


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Postfix, SASL and LDAPDB

2010-05-19 Thread Julien Vehent
Hey guys,

I want to set up SASL authentication using LDAPDB, but it seems that
postfix connects to LDAP but doesn't send anything to it...

I try to authenticate using 'auth plain ', and I receive :

535 5.7.8 Error: authentication failed: authentication failure

Connection to LDAP works fine at the network level, but the only thing
that postfix send to Slapd (sniffed using tcpdump) is a "UNBIND" request.
Confirmed by the logs of slapd:


May 18 17:25:29 samchiel slapd[1431]: conn=35 fd=17 ACCEPT from
IP=127.0.0.1:57368 (IP=127.0.0.1:389)
May 18 17:25:29 samchiel slapd[1431]: conn=35 op=0 UNBIND
May 18 17:25:29 samchiel slapd[1431]: conn=35 fd=17 closed


Postfix says the following:


May 18 17:25:29 samchiel postfix/smtpd[12094]: < localhost[127.0.0.1]:
auth plain X
May 18 17:25:29 samchiel postfix/smtpd[12094]: xsasl_cyrus_server_first:
sasl_method plain, init_response X
May 18 17:25:29 samchiel postfix/smtpd[12094]: xsasl_cyrus_server_first:
decoded initial response
May 18 17:25:29 samchiel postfix/smtpd[12094]: warning: SASL
authentication failure: Password verification failed
May 18 17:25:29 samchiel postfix/smtpd[12094]: warning:
localhost[127.0.0.1]: SASL plain authentication failed: authentication
failure
May 18 17:25:29 samchiel postfix/smtpd[12094]: > localhost[127.0.0.1]: 535
5.7.8 Error: authentication failed: authentication failure


So, I assumed there might be something wrong with my configuration. Since
I'm on Debian Squeeze (for testing purpose), I have a
/etc/postfix/sasl/smtpd.conf that contains the configuration of ldapdb:


# cat /etc/postfix/sasl/smtpd.conf
pwcheck_method: auxprop
auxprop_plugin: ldapdb
mech_list: PLAIN LOGIN
ldapdb_uri: ldap://localhost
ldapdb_id: postfix
ldapdb_pw: ZZZ
ldapdb_mech: DIGEST-MD5 PLAIN LOGIN


and sasl directives in main.conf


# grep smtpd_sasl main.cf
smtpd_sasl_type = cyrus
smtpd_sasl_auth_enable = yes
smtpd_sasl_path = smtpd
smtpd_sasl_security_options = noanonymous
smtpd_sasl_local_domain = $mydomain
smtpd_sasl_authenticated_header = yes



Did I miss anything ? Any clue on why postfix doesn't send anything but an
UNBIND request to LDAP ?



Thanks,
Julien


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Re: Accelerating directory's content's viewing: how, is directory is huge?

2010-05-19 Thread Ron Johnson

On 05/19/2010 05:56 AM, Merciadri Luca wrote:

I wanted to say that it now takes some seconds of less. I think that I'm
going to use CLI, no problem.



I'm not sure I understand you.  Do you mean that it's many seconds 
faster, or just a few?


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Gnome not working anymore?

2010-05-19 Thread Aioanei Rares

Howdy y'all,

I really don't want this to be a useless mail like "x doesn't work. it 
worked. it works in $distro. make it workoneone", so

I'll try to make it as usable as possible.
1. System is Testing/Unstable.
2. Did a dist-upgrade as I always do.
3. Pressed the akregator panel launcher only to find it won't work.
4. I say, maybe it's because of the update, I should relogin.
5. Gnome won't start no more, just shows me the background color and the 
cursor.

6. I say, it's a custom kernel, let's boot a Debian one (2.6.33-2-amd64).
7. Same symptoms; alt+ctrl+f2 and look in /var/log/messages.
8. sudo cat /var/log/messages | tail
May 19 16:29:13 debian kernel: [   22.831221] powernow-k8:5 : fid 
0xc (2000 MHz), vid 0x11
May 19 16:29:13 debian kernel: [   22.831222] powernow-k8:6 : fid 
0x2 (1000 MHz), vid 0x12

May 19 16:29:13 debian lpd[1785]: restarted
May 19 16:29:14 debian kernel: [   23.005030] Clocksource tsc unstable 
(delta = -71132891 ns)
May 19 16:29:32 debian kernel: [   41.542406] metacity[2018]: segfault 
at d8 ip 7fdfe1f72449 sp 7fff17354330 error 4 in 
libgdk-x11-2.0.so.0.2000.1[7fdfe1f0f000+a8000]
May 19 16:29:40 debian kernel: [   49.823486] gnome-panel[2036]: 
segfault at d8 ip 7f1843707449 sp 7fff36c5ee30 error 4 in 
libgdk-x11-2.0.so.0.2000.1[7f18436a4000+a8000]
May 19 16:29:50 debian kernel: [   59.808918] nautilus[2137]: segfault 
at d8 ip 7ff13b3f6449 sp 7fffd570e8f0 error 4 in 
libgdk-x11-2.0.so.0.2000.1[7ff13b393000+a8000]
May 19 16:30:00 debian kernel: [   69.732391] update-notifier[2141]: 
segfault at d8 ip 7ff3d14ab449 sp 7fff03fc8940 error 4 in 
libgdk-x11-2.0.so.0.2000.1[7ff3d1448000+a8000]
May 19 16:30:00 debian kernel: [   69.759126] kerneloops-appl[2143]: 
segfault at d8 ip 7fc017dd9449 sp 7fffa2b61aa0 error 4 in 
libgdk-x11-2.0.so.0.2000.1[7fc017d76000+a8000]
May 19 16:30:00 debian kernel: [   69.894630] polkit-gnome-au[2142]: 
segfault at d8 ip 7f125ee50449 sp 7fff2ed8b740 error 4 in 
libgdk-x11-2.0.so.0.2000.1[7f125eded000+a8000]
9. If I did something wrong, please tell me; if now, against what 
component should I report a bug? Libgtk ?


Thanks for your patience.

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Re: Gnome not working anymore?

2010-05-19 Thread RyanJB
Not really well versed in this, but:

What kernel do you use before the upgrade, is it the 2.6.33-2-amd64?? Obviously 
the upgrade broke the system somehow. Maybe broken dependencies? Try 'apt-get 
-f install'.

And also, a testing + sid system is never free of bugs.

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Re: Gnome not working anymore?

2010-05-19 Thread Aioanei Rares

On 05/19/2010 04:56 PM, RyanJB wrote:

Not really well versed in this, but:

What kernel do you use before the upgrade, is it the 2.6.33-2-amd64?? Obviously 
the upgrade broke the system somehow. Maybe broken dependencies? Try 'apt-get 
-f install'.

And also, a testing + sid system is never free of bugs.

Regards,
RJB


   
Thanks for the reply, but first of all, I do not think it's the kernel 
at fault, it's some library upgrade (imho); second, no broken deps;
third, it was 2.6.34 vanilla; finally, fourth, I know what to expect 
from a sid/testing system; I just wanted to inform so I can help
getting rid of this bug. And, btw, XFCE works ok, although being also 
GTK-based.



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Re: pinning + apt-get vs aptitude

2010-05-19 Thread Daniel Burrows
On Tue, May 18, 2010 at 06:00:32PM -0500, Hugo Vanwoerkom  
was heard to say:
> Daniel Burrows wrote:
> >  It looks to me like something else required grub-pc, and that in
> >turn forced grub-legacy to be removed.  You could try pinning grub-pc
> >at a very low priority to see whether that helps, although without
> >knowing what's causing grub-pc to get pulled in, it's hard to say
> >whether that will really do the trick.
> >
> 
> Didn't help. I don't know what is causing grub-pc to get pulled in.

  Does adding "--show-deps -o Debug::pkgDepCache::AutoInstall=true"
to the command-line give you any more information about what's
requiring it?

  Based on what I have on my system, the obvious candidates are "grub",
"grub2", "grub-rescue-pc", and "startupmanager".

  Daniel


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Re: pinning + apt-get vs aptitude

2010-05-19 Thread Daniel Burrows
On Tue, May 18, 2010 at 05:54:27PM -0500, Hugo Vanwoerkom  
was heard to say:
> Sven Joachim wrote:
> >>The following packages will be REMOVED:
> >>... grub-legacy{a} ...

  [snip]

> >>The following NEW packages will be installed:
> >>... grub-pc{a} ...
> >>
> >>So why does aptitude pay no attention to my pin?
> >
> >Because it decides that the grub-legacy package is unused and can be
> >removed despite the pin.  Whether this is the right thing is debatable;
> >I'm sure you find some bug reports about that if you dig into the long
> >list of aptitude bugs.
> >
> 
> That explains it well, thanks

  It probably won't help, though.  If grub-legacy was unused, it would
say "grub-legacy{u}".  Instead it says "grub-legacy{a}", indicating that
it was forced off the system by a conflicting package.

  Daniel


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Re: How to keep debian current??

2010-05-19 Thread Osamu Aoki
On Tue, May 18, 2010 at 11:00:41PM +0300, Andrei Popescu wrote:
> 
> How about this instead of the last paragraph:
> 
> ---
> Please note that the Security Team does not monitor unstable. It is up 
> to the individual maintainer to fix the issue. 

YES

> This may under circumstances take longer, e.g. if the maintainer is
> waiting for a new version from upstream. 

Is this realistic description?  It is usually lazy mantainer or dead
upstream which delay such fixes.  Upstream fix should likely be around
if someone fixed that for stable.

> There are also no Debian Security Advisories 
> (DSA) for issues that are present in the unstable version of a software, 
> but not the versions in stable and/or testing.

I see... I now think placing pointer to FAQ should be good idea to
explain all these issues.

I need to think think about the context of these.  This was in
section describing "archive".  (I have other place where I say "For your
**production server**, the `stable` suite with the security updates is
recommended.")  

So I am updating as:

TIP: If "`sid`" is used in the above example instead of
"`...@-@codename-sta...@-@`", the "`deb: http://security.debian.org/ ...`"
line for security updates in the "`/etc/apt/sources.list`" is not
required.   This is because there is no security update archive for
"`sid`" (`unstable`).

NOTE: The security bugs for the `stable` archive are fixed by the Debian
security team.  This activity has been quite rigorous and reliable.
Those for the `testing` archive may be fixed by the Debian testing
security team.  For several reasons, this activity is not as rigorous as
that for `stable` and you may need to wait for the migration of fixed
`unstable` packages.  Those for the `unstable` archive are fixed by the
individual maintainer.  Actively maintained `unstable` packages are
usually in a fairly good shape by leveraging latest upstream security
fixes. See http://www.debian.org/security/faq[Debian security FAQ]
for how Debian handles security bugs.




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Re: Gnome not working anymore?

2010-05-19 Thread Thierry Chatelet
On Wednesday 19 May 2010 15:43:01 Aioanei Rares wrote:
> Howdy y'all,
> 
> I really don't want this to be a useless mail like "x doesn't work. it
> worked. it works in $distro. make it workoneone", so
> I'll try to make it as usable as possible.
> 1. System is Testing/Unstable.
> 2. Did a dist-upgrade as I always do.
> 3. Pressed the akregator panel launcher only to find it won't work.
> 4. I say, maybe it's because of the update, I should relogin.
> 5. Gnome won't start no more, just shows me the background color and the
> cursor.
> 6. I say, it's a custom kernel, let's boot a Debian one (2.6.33-2-amd64).
> 7. Same symptoms; alt+ctrl+f2 and look in /var/log/messages.
> 8. sudo cat /var/log/messages | tail
> May 19 16:29:13 debian kernel: [   22.831221] powernow-k8:5 : fid
> 0xc (2000 MHz), vid 0x11
> May 19 16:29:13 debian kernel: [   22.831222] powernow-k8:6 : fid
> 0x2 (1000 MHz), vid 0x12
> May 19 16:29:13 debian lpd[1785]: restarted
> May 19 16:29:14 debian kernel: [   23.005030] Clocksource tsc unstable
> (delta = -71132891 ns)
> May 19 16:29:32 debian kernel: [   41.542406] metacity[2018]: segfault
> at d8 ip 7fdfe1f72449 sp 7fff17354330 error 4 in
> libgdk-x11-2.0.so.0.2000.1[7fdfe1f0f000+a8000]
> May 19 16:29:40 debian kernel: [   49.823486] gnome-panel[2036]:
> segfault at d8 ip 7f1843707449 sp 7fff36c5ee30 error 4 in
> libgdk-x11-2.0.so.0.2000.1[7f18436a4000+a8000]
> May 19 16:29:50 debian kernel: [   59.808918] nautilus[2137]: segfault
> at d8 ip 7ff13b3f6449 sp 7fffd570e8f0 error 4 in
> libgdk-x11-2.0.so.0.2000.1[7ff13b393000+a8000]
> May 19 16:30:00 debian kernel: [   69.732391] update-notifier[2141]:
> segfault at d8 ip 7ff3d14ab449 sp 7fff03fc8940 error 4 in
> libgdk-x11-2.0.so.0.2000.1[7ff3d1448000+a8000]
> May 19 16:30:00 debian kernel: [   69.759126] kerneloops-appl[2143]:
> segfault at d8 ip 7fc017dd9449 sp 7fffa2b61aa0 error 4 in
> libgdk-x11-2.0.so.0.2000.1[7fc017d76000+a8000]
> May 19 16:30:00 debian kernel: [   69.894630] polkit-gnome-au[2142]:
> segfault at d8 ip 7f125ee50449 sp 7fff2ed8b740 error 4 in
> libgdk-x11-2.0.so.0.2000.1[7f125eded000+a8000]
> 9. If I did something wrong, please tell me; if now, against what
> component should I report a bug? Libgtk ?
> 
> Thanks for your patience.
> 
> Regards,

Is your graphic card a nvidia? If so, blacklisting nouveau seams to do the 
trick.
Thierry
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Re: How to keep debian current??

2010-05-19 Thread Boyd Stephen Smith Jr.
On Tuesday 18 May 2010 20:45:36 Osamu Aoki wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> There are 2 different topics.
> 
>  * Which is better shape "testing" or "unstable" for security issues?
>(original question)

My gut, based on both the discussions in the thread and sources on the 
debian.org site, tells me that Sid is slightly better, for now.

When the security team has the resources to pay attention to testing (perhaps 
during the freeze?), they are about on par with each other.

Stable+security is, of course, the best but the versions of the software 
available there may not be sufficient for your needs.  Using backports doesn't 
help here -- security updates to backports are done is roughly the same way 
security updates to Sid are.

>  * What dees security team do and ensures?

The security team is responsible for preparing new package versions for stable 
and oldstable, since it is rarely appropriate for security upgrades to be 
delayed until the next point release.  They follow Debian policy on this and 
no not package new upstream versions, but instead cherry-pick and backport the 
patches required to fix the issue.

Some upstream projects make this difficult, and in rare cases those packages 
will be "abandoned" by the security team.  AFAIK, there's no list of these 
packages available, you have to monitor the security-announce mailing list to 
be notified.

In addition, the security team is responsible for preparing the Debian 
Security Advisories (DSAs) that are sent to the security-announce list when a 
security vulnerability is identified and fixed.  Besides providing on-time 
notification of fixes, this also ties the vulnerability to CVE numbers so 
persons or organizations that track issues there can easily determine the 
status of that vulnerability in Debian.

Finally, when the security team has enough manpower, they provide security 
updates to testing, usually by accelerating the migration of a package version 
from Sid.

Any DD can perform a NMU to a package in Sid that has an open security issue.  
Members of the security team sometimes to this for packages in Sid, but it is 
usually left up to the maintainer.
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Re: Gnome not working anymore?

2010-05-19 Thread Aioanei Rares

On 05/19/2010 05:45 PM, Thierry Chatelet wrote:

On Wednesday 19 May 2010 15:43:01 Aioanei Rares wrote:
   

[snip]
 

Is your graphic card a nvidia? If so, blacklisting nouveau seams to do the
trick.
Thierry
Thierry


   
Yeah, it is, but the nouveau modules is/was blacklisted since long 
(lsmod | grep nouveau returns nada).



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Re: pinning + apt-get vs aptitude

2010-05-19 Thread Sven Joachim
On 2010-05-19 16:06 +0200, Daniel Burrows wrote:

> On Tue, May 18, 2010 at 05:54:27PM -0500, Hugo Vanwoerkom 
>  was heard to say:
>> Sven Joachim wrote:
>> >>The following packages will be REMOVED:
>> >>... grub-legacy{a} ...
>
>   [snip]
>
>> >>The following NEW packages will be installed:
>> >>... grub-pc{a} ...
>> >>
>> >>So why does aptitude pay no attention to my pin?
>> >
>> >Because it decides that the grub-legacy package is unused and can be
>> >removed despite the pin.  Whether this is the right thing is debatable;
>> >I'm sure you find some bug reports about that if you dig into the long
>> >list of aptitude bugs.
>> >
>> 
>> That explains it well, thanks
>
>   It probably won't help, though.  If grub-legacy was unused, it would
> say "grub-legacy{u}".  Instead it says "grub-legacy{a}", indicating that
> it was forced off the system by a conflicting package.

Right, thanks.  You can see in Hugo's initial posting that he has the
grub package installed which would pull in grub-pc.

Sven


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Re: Accelerating directory's content's viewing: how, is directory is huge?

2010-05-19 Thread Merciadri Luca
Ron Johnson wrote:
> On 05/19/2010 05:56 AM, Merciadri Luca wrote:
>> I wanted to say that it now takes some seconds of less. I think that I'm
>> going to use CLI, no problem.
>>
>
> I'm not sure I understand you.  Do you mean that it's many seconds
> faster, or just a few?
It is just a few seconds faster. Sorry if I was not clear.


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Re: Chromium Xperience

2010-05-19 Thread Bob Weber

 On 05/18/2010 11:23 PM, Kelly Clowers wrote:

On Tue, May 18, 2010 at 19:15, KS  wrote:

Hi all,

I have been an Iceweasel user since it entered Debian repositories. A
few days ago I discovered that Chromium was also available for Debian
and installed it.

I feel it is more responsive and is "faster" than Iceweasel This could
be due to Chromium using different task for every tab it opens and using
its own window decorations (Iceweasel uses GTK+ and I use KDE). Even
with each tab increasing the use of memory by about 30MB, it still feels
faster than Iceweasel. No real tests done here, but Chromium does win
for responsiveness to a casual user.

Being an Iceweasel user with the Adblock+ extension, I'm accustomed to
(almost) adfree web browsing. This hasn't worked as smoothly with
Chromium. There is an Adblock extension available for Chromium, but it
works in a different way that it shows the advertisement while the page
is loading and then hides the element. This is not as clean as Iceweasel
(firefox). In addition, the extension didn't block Google adverts!
Iceweasel takes this round (very important).

And then comes the topic of shortcuts. I love the "/" shortcut for
Iceweasel, Chromium still uses the two-key combination of Ctrl+F!
Another fast shortcut is the Ctrl+Shift+Del which brings up the priate
data delete box. In Chromium one has to go through either preferences or
first History>  Edit Items and then delete.

Chromium was also behaving oddly when playing flash video on full
screen. The video was full screen but behind the browser window!

The Adblock+ advantage with Iceweasel is the one factor which might keep
me away from Chromium unless better adblocking is implemented.

What is the experience of other users who have tested out Chromium in
Debian?

I have the dev build installed. I used it a bit to play with Youtube's
html5 version.
I guess it's kind of fast, but I didn't really notice, although I
didn't feel like using
in a realistic browsing session of mine. I am kind of curious about how it
would work when every session involves reopening 50-120 tabs (which is
normal for me), but I can't tolerate the UI for that long -_-

To the extent I did use it, it worked ok. On one of the dev updates, html5
audio was broken, but I filed a bug and it was soon fixed.


Cheers,
Kelly Clowers


Ive bee using Chrome dev channel version for several months now.  I like the 
fact that each tab has its on process.  If one crashed it does not take the 
whole browser with it.  I watch a lot of flash videos on hulu, etc and when 
flash crashes or I loose audio from flash all I have to do is terminate the 
flash process from chrome's own task manager and restart the video.  I use 2 
monitors and when I watch videos on one screen I some time browse the web in 
another chrome window on the second monitor.  I may have many tabs open which I 
don't want to close just to restart flash when it fails like I would in 
Firefox.  I do use adblock for chrome but I have not seen it do mush for 
blocking adds.


Bob


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Re: Chromium Xperience

2010-05-19 Thread Hugo Vanwoerkom

KS wrote:

Hi all,

I have been an Iceweasel user since it entered Debian repositories. A
few days ago I discovered that Chromium was also available for Debian
and installed it.

I feel it is more responsive and is "faster" than Iceweasel This could
be due to Chromium using different task for every tab it opens and using
its own window decorations (Iceweasel uses GTK+ and I use KDE). Even
with each tab increasing the use of memory by about 30MB, it still feels
faster than Iceweasel. No real tests done here, but Chromium does win
for responsiveness to a casual user.

Being an Iceweasel user with the Adblock+ extension, I'm accustomed to
(almost) adfree web browsing. This hasn't worked as smoothly with
Chromium. There is an Adblock extension available for Chromium, but it
works in a different way that it shows the advertisement while the page
is loading and then hides the element. This is not as clean as Iceweasel
(firefox). In addition, the extension didn't block Google adverts!
Iceweasel takes this round (very important).

And then comes the topic of shortcuts. I love the "/" shortcut for
Iceweasel, Chromium still uses the two-key combination of Ctrl+F!
Another fast shortcut is the Ctrl+Shift+Del which brings up the priate
data delete box. In Chromium one has to go through either preferences or
first History > Edit Items and then delete.

Chromium was also behaving oddly when playing flash video on full
screen. The video was full screen but behind the browser window!

The Adblock+ advantage with Iceweasel is the one factor which might keep
me away from Chromium unless better adblocking is implemented.

What is the experience of other users who have tested out Chromium in
Debian?



Good question. I now use Google Chrome 5.0.375.38 beta exclusively.
I loaded it down from their site. Is there a debian package?

Pro's:

1. I also feel it is more responsive than IW .
2. I like the screen layout better.
3. The extension development process is well documented, but I have 
never looked at that with IW.

4. I like the project, a nice competitor for IE, hope it clobbers it ;-)

Con's:
1. How do you know when there is a new version? I got it from:
http://www.google.com/chrome?platform=linux
but that doesn't have the version number.
2. The bookmark manager is a mess: no way to go to the bottom of the 
list other than using the slide-bar on the right and who knows where he 
imported the IW bookmarks from, but the ain; t the ones I am using now...
3. Some of the keyboard shortcuts don't work, notable forwards 
(shift+backspace) and backwards (backspace)
4. Those are issues 
http://code.google.com/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=22683&q=backspace&colspec=ID%20Stars%20Pri%20Area%20Feature%20Type%20Status%20Summary%20Modified%20Owner%20Mstone%20OS

and
http://code.google.com/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=22771&q=backspace&colspec=ID%20Stars%20Pri%20Area%20Feature%20Type%20Status%20Summary%20Modified%20Owner%20Mstone%20OS
and when do they get resolved?
5. On IW you can setup autoscroll, but in chrome not.

I'll update the list when I think of more items.

Hugo






























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~/.xsession-errors file grows way too big

2010-05-19 Thread T o n g
Hi,

I am astonished to find out that my ~/.xsession-errors grows to a 
humongous 640M! My wife's is nearly 400M as well. This is way way too 
big. 

I took a look, the reason and cure is very simple -- having X to trunk it 
each time when started 
(http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=287876)
whereas currently, my ~/.xsession-errors kept logs back to stone age. 

However, such reasonable request has been tabled for 6 years now. The DD 
gave loads of irrelevant reasons as excuse of not fixing it. Ref:
http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=276545

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Re: ~/.xsession-errors file grows way too big

2010-05-19 Thread Boyd Stephen Smith Jr.
On Wednesday 19 May 2010 11:18:57 T o n g wrote:
> I am astonished to find out that my ~/.xsession-errors grows to a
> humongous 640M! My wife's is nearly 400M as well. This is way way too
> big.
> 
> I took a look, the reason and cure is very simple -- having X to trunk it
> each time when started
> (http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=287876)
> whereas currently, my ~/.xsession-errors kept logs back to stone age.
> 
> However, such reasonable request has been tabled for 6 years now. The DD
> gave loads of irrelevant reasons as excuse of not fixing it. Ref:
> http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=276545
> 
> Any comment?

For what reason can't you simply modify you Xsession file to do as you like?  
It is a conffile, so your changes would be preserved through upgrades.
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Re: ~/.xsession-errors file grows way too big

2010-05-19 Thread Sven Joachim
On 2010-05-19 18:18 +0200, T o n g wrote:

> I am astonished to find out that my ~/.xsession-errors grows to a 
> humongous 640M! My wife's is nearly 400M as well. This is way way too 
> big. 
>
> I took a look, the reason and cure is very simple -- having X to trunk it 
> each time when started 
> (http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=287876)
> whereas currently, my ~/.xsession-errors kept logs back to stone age. 
>
> However, such reasonable request has been tabled for 6 years now. The DD 
> gave loads of irrelevant reasons as excuse of not fixing it. Ref:
> http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=276545
>
> Any comment? 

You may want to follow up on these bugs, since the _current_ X
developers in Debian never spoke up.  And I think that there is so much
crapware that puts out useless junk on stderr or stdout (the worst
offender is KDE4 software, until you find out that is possible to put an
end to this by running kdebugdialog) that the battle to make
~/.xsession-errors useful has long been lost.

Sven

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Moving a drive to another computer

2010-05-19 Thread Vince Vielhaber


A friend was running windows and the viruses got the best of it. She
sent me the drive so I could get her pics and documents off of it and
put 5.0.4 on it and send it back (she's a few states away).

What problems (and solutions) should I be expecting when she installs
the drive in her computer?  I'm assuming the network setup will be one
problem.

My background is mainly in FreeBSD.  If a drive is set up as being
/dev/ad0 and the other machine sees it as /dev/ad4 it won't complete
the boot, it'll complain with a cannot mount root error.  Will that be
an issue with Debian?

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Re: How to keep debian current??

2010-05-19 Thread Andrei Popescu
On Wed,19.May.10, 23:28:01, Osamu Aoki wrote:
> 
> So I am updating as:
> 
> TIP: If "`sid`" is used in the above example instead of
> "`...@-@codename-sta...@-@`", the "`deb: http://security.debian.org/ ...`"
> line for security updates in the "`/etc/apt/sources.list`" is not
> required.   This is because there is no security update archive for
> "`sid`" (`unstable`).
> 
> NOTE: The security bugs for the `stable` archive are fixed by the Debian
> security team.  This activity has been quite rigorous and reliable.
> Those for the `testing` archive may be fixed by the Debian testing
> security team.  For several reasons, this activity is not as rigorous as
> that for `stable` and you may need to wait for the migration of fixed
> `unstable` packages.  Those for the `unstable` archive are fixed by the
> individual maintainer.  Actively maintained `unstable` packages are
> usually in a fairly good shape by leveraging latest upstream security
> fixes. See http://www.debian.org/security/faq[Debian security FAQ]
> for how Debian handles security bugs.

Sounds good to me.

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Re: ~/.xsession-errors file grows way too big

2010-05-19 Thread d . sastre . medina
On Wed, May 19, 2010 at 06:45:04PM +0200, Sven Joachim wrote:
> On 2010-05-19 18:18 +0200, T o n g wrote:
> 
> > I am astonished to find out that my ~/.xsession-errors grows to a 
> > humongous 640M! My wife's is nearly 400M as well. This is way way too 
> > big. 
> >
> > I took a look, the reason and cure is very simple -- having X to trunk it 
> > each time when started 
> > (http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=287876)
> > whereas currently, my ~/.xsession-errors kept logs back to stone age. 
> >
> > However, such reasonable request has been tabled for 6 years now. The DD 
> > gave loads of irrelevant reasons as excuse of not fixing it. Ref:
> > http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=276545
> >
> > Any comment? 
> 
> You may want to follow up on these bugs, since the _current_ X
> developers in Debian never spoke up.  And I think that there is so much
> crapware that puts out useless junk on stderr or stdout (the worst
> offender is KDE4 software, until you find out that is possible to put an
> end to this by running kdebugdialog) that the battle to make
> ~/.xsession-errors useful has long been lost.

FWIW, I don't have that problem, although /etc/X11/Xsession says:

exec >>"$ERRFILE" 2>&1 (despite the solution proposed in¹)
echo "$PROGNAME: X session started for $LOGNAME at $(date)"

and the contents of it are, unsurprisingly:

"Xsession: X session started for dawud at mié may 19 18:25:05 CEST
2010"

$ ll .xsession-errors 
-rw--- 1 dawud dawud 72 may 19 18:25 .xsession-errors

This is a Lenny box, BTW.
What are the perms for that file? maybe (wild guess) it lacks w?

Regards.

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Re: Moving a drive to another computer

2010-05-19 Thread Andrei Popescu
On Wed,19.May.10, 12:46:53, Vince Vielhaber wrote:
> 
> A friend was running windows and the viruses got the best of it. She
> sent me the drive so I could get her pics and documents off of it and
> put 5.0.4 on it and send it back (she's a few states away).
> 
> What problems (and solutions) should I be expecting when she installs
> the drive in her computer?  I'm assuming the network setup will be one
> problem.

Yes. interfaces(5) will tell you all you need for the configuration 
part, but before you send the drive don't forget to delete 
/etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules. This is the file responsible 
for mapping network interfaces to names by MAC. Wired interfaces are 
called eth0, eth1 and so on. Pray she doesn't have more than one 
(including any firewire adapter) otherwise it can get tricky.

> My background is mainly in FreeBSD.  If a drive is set up as being
> /dev/ad0 and the other machine sees it as /dev/ad4 it won't complete
> the boot, it'll complain with a cannot mount root error.  Will that be
> an issue with Debian?

Could be. The newer installer will setup fstab with UUIDs, but don't 
know about 5.0.4 (lenny). You can still modify it yourself though. Use 
blkid(8) (package util-linux) to find out the UUIDs and replace

/dev/hda1   /   ext3errors=remount-ro   0   1

with

UUID=   /   ext3
errors=remount-ro   0   1

(assuming /dev/hda1 is the root partition)

Grub (the boot loader) can also be an issue, especially since its 'root' 
parameter can not use LABEL or UUID. If this is the only drive in the 
computer and the root partition is the first one you probably need

root(hd0,0)

and you also need to pass the correct UUID as a kernel parameter.  
Replace 'root=/dev/hda1' with 'root=UUID=.

Do not edit the stanzas directly, but read the comments at the beginning 
of the file. You have to edit (from memory) the 'groot' and 'kopt' 
parameters, after which you have to run 'update-grub'.

Hope I didn't miss anything. There was also recently a thread about 
this, you should look it up.

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Re: Re (5): Re^n: Grub vs. linux-image-2.6.32 conundrum

2010-05-19 Thread Stephen Powell
On Tue, 18 May 2010 20:24:47 -0400 (EDT), Peter Easthope wrote:
> Stephen Powell wrote:
>> ... my employer has [carnot.yi.org] blocked as a "dating" site.  ?!
> 
> yi.org provides an server for dynamically updated 
> addresses.  Among the thousands of clients, a few 
> could be distributing "colorful" data.
> 
> http://carnot.pathology.ubc.ca/dalton.Xorg.0.log 
> is the same file.  I registered at yi.org back 
> when the ubc dns was failing.

Sorry, Peter.  I kept forgetting to check from home.
I don't think the "/dev/fb0 does not exist" error is significant.
It appears that the X server is set up to try the intel,
vesa, and fb drivers, in that order.  The message about "/dev/fb0
does not exist" would only matter if the fb driver was primary.
But the intel driver successfully
identifies your chipset as i815, one of its supported drivers; so that
shouldn't be a problem.  intel should take over as primary.  Please post your
/etc/X11/xorg.conf file as well.

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Re: ~/.xsession-errors file grows way too big

2010-05-19 Thread Hugo Vanwoerkom

T o n g wrote:

Hi,

I am astonished to find out that my ~/.xsession-errors grows to a 
humongous 640M! My wife's is nearly 400M as well. This is way way too 
big. 

I took a look, the reason and cure is very simple -- having X to trunk it 
each time when started 
(http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=287876)
whereas currently, my ~/.xsession-errors kept logs back to stone age. 

However, such reasonable request has been tabled for 6 years now. The DD 
gave loads of irrelevant reasons as excuse of not fixing it. Ref:

http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=276545

Any comment? 



My .xsession-errors is now:

h...@debian:~$ ls -l .xsession-errors
-rw-r--r-- 1 hugo hugo 200043 2010-05-19 12:34 .xsession-errors

and it is filled with:

...
error 173 request 152 minor 8 serial 1023
error 173 request 152 minor 8 serial 1176
error 173 request 152 minor 8 serial 1271
error 173 request 152 minor 8 serial 1323
...

I asked about that several times who knows where and when and nobody 
answered, as will be the case here.


It gets that way after I do (in Fvwm)

Key F9  A   M   Exec /usr/local/bin/xcompmgr -c -f

so that I can make my onscreen monitors grow translucent to see what is 
behind them:


Mouse 4 W   S   Exec /usr/bin/transset-df --min 0.1 
--id=$[w.id] --dec 0.2
Mouse 5 W   S   Exec /usr/bin/transset-df -p --inc 0.1 
--id=$[w.id]


But .xsession-errors gets initialized at the beginning of each session, 
who knows why...


Hugo



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Re: Moving a drive to another computer

2010-05-19 Thread Michael Kjorling
On May 19 2010 12:46 -0400, from v...@michvhf.com (Vince Vielhaber):
> What problems (and solutions) should I be expecting when she installs
> the drive in her computer?  I'm assuming the network setup will be one
> problem.

If you use a generic kernel binary and install most variations of
hardware-specific packages (thinking xserver-xorg-video-*, for
example), my experience is that the issues should be minimal. The
default Debian installation does this.


> My background is mainly in FreeBSD.  If a drive is set up as being
> /dev/ad0 and the other machine sees it as /dev/ad4 it won't complete
> the boot, it'll complain with a cannot mount root error.  Will that be
> an issue with Debian?

You can use UUIDs instead of physical devices, and the kernel will
find the partition in question regardless of where it is physically
hooked up. The main downside is that UUIDs are rather opaque, but
unless your friend is planning on having a lot of drives in her PC or
mess around with /etc/fstab and the boot loader configuration, this
should be a non-issue. If it is, look up "labels" - they work largely
the same but are human-assigned and human-readable.

As far as I have gathered, whenever Linux expects a physical device
node such as /dev/hda2 or /dev/sdb1, you can instead pass a string on
the format "UUID=". So an example fstab
entry might look like this:

UUID=1e7c6b1a-5c25-4efa-866c-9a6a086b0292  /  ext3  errors=remount-ro  0  1

In the boot loader configuration, you'd pass the same kind of string
to the kernel through the "root" parameter, like so:

kernel /kernel-binary root=UUID=1e7c6b1a-5c... ro ...

The contents of /dev/disk/by-uuid & Co will be very helpful.

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Re: Moving a drive to another computer

2010-05-19 Thread Stan Hoeppner
Andrei Popescu put forth on 5/19/2010 12:29 PM:
> On Wed,19.May.10, 12:46:53, Vince Vielhaber wrote:
>>
>> A friend was running windows and the viruses got the best of it. She
>> sent me the drive so I could get her pics and documents off of it and
>> put 5.0.4 on it and send it back (she's a few states away).
>>
>> What problems (and solutions) should I be expecting when she installs
>> the drive in her computer?  I'm assuming the network setup will be one
>> problem.
> 
> Yes. interfaces(5) will tell you all you need for the configuration 
> part, but before you send the drive don't forget to delete 
> /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules. This is the file responsible 
> for mapping network interfaces to names by MAC. Wired interfaces are 
> called eth0, eth1 and so on. Pray she doesn't have more than one 
> (including any firewire adapter) otherwise it can get tricky.
> 
>> My background is mainly in FreeBSD.  If a drive is set up as being
>> /dev/ad0 and the other machine sees it as /dev/ad4 it won't complete
>> the boot, it'll complain with a cannot mount root error.  Will that be
>> an issue with Debian?
> 
> Could be. The newer installer will setup fstab with UUIDs, but don't 
> know about 5.0.4 (lenny). You can still modify it yourself though. Use 
> blkid(8) (package util-linux) to find out the UUIDs and replace
> 
> /dev/hda1 /   ext3errors=remount-ro   0   1
> 
> with
> 
> UUID= /   ext3
> errors=remount-ro   0   1
> 
> (assuming /dev/hda1 is the root partition)
> 
> Grub (the boot loader) can also be an issue, especially since its 'root' 
> parameter can not use LABEL or UUID. If this is the only drive in the 
> computer and the root partition is the first one you probably need
> 
> root  (hd0,0)
> 
> and you also need to pass the correct UUID as a kernel parameter.  
> Replace 'root=/dev/hda1' with 'root=UUID=.
> 
> Do not edit the stanzas directly, but read the comments at the beginning 
> of the file. You have to edit (from memory) the 'groot' and 'kopt' 
> parameters, after which you have to run 'update-grub'.
> 
> Hope I didn't miss anything. There was also recently a thread about 
> this, you should look it up.

This is why one should always ship the chassis to the geek friend hero,
instead of just the disk.  Sure it costs more, but one desires everything to
work upon receiving the package back from UPS/Fed Ex etc doesn't s/he? [1][2]

[1] Cutting corners is the greatest cause of heartache and headache.
[2] If something is worth doing, it's worth doing it right.

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dist-upgrade wants to install linux-image-2.6.32-5-686

2010-05-19 Thread Hugo Vanwoerkom

Hi,

Another apt question.

I have my own kernel installed:

h...@debian:~/.fvwm$ dpkg -l | grep linux-image
ii  linux-image-2.6.33.3-hvw 1 
Linux kernel binary image for version 2.6.33.3-hvw
ii  linux-image-2.6.33.4-hvw 1 
Linux kernel binary image for version 2.6.33.4-hvw


no headers and no other debian images.

When I do a apt-get dist-upgrade though I see:

The following NEW packages will be installed:
...linux-image-2.6-486 linux-image-2.6.32-5-486...

which I want to avoid, because it adds to the time to do the upgrade and 
I am only interested in Debian's 2.6.33, which is still in experimental.


Can anyone think of a way around this?

Hugo


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Re: ~/.xsession-errors file grows way too big

2010-05-19 Thread Sven Joachim
On 2010-05-19 19:19 +0200, d.sastre.med...@gmail.com wrote:

> FWIW, I don't have that problem, although /etc/X11/Xsession says:
>
> exec >>"$ERRFILE" 2>&1 (despite the solution proposed in¹)
> echo "$PROGNAME: X session started for $LOGNAME at $(date)"
>
> and the contents of it are, unsurprisingly:
>
> "Xsession: X session started for dawud at mié may 19 18:25:05 CEST
> 2010"
>
> $ ll .xsession-errors 
> -rw--- 1 dawud dawud 72 may 19 18:25 .xsession-errors

Looks like somebody truncated the file for you, maybe the display
manager.  FWIW, stock XDM would do that if it were not disabled by a
Debian patch that has been around for ages and probably comes from the
same developer who refused to truncate ~/.xsession-errors in
/etc/X11/xsession.

Sven


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Re: dist-upgrade wants to install linux-image-2.6.32-5-686

2010-05-19 Thread Sven Joachim
On 2010-05-19 20:00 +0200, Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote:

> I have my own kernel installed:
>
> h...@debian:~/.fvwm$ dpkg -l | grep linux-image
> ii  linux-image-2.6.33.3-hvw 1   Linux kernel binary
> image for version 2.6.33.3-hvw
> ii  linux-image-2.6.33.4-hvw 1   Linux kernel binary
> image for version 2.6.33.4-hvw
>
> no headers and no other debian images.
>
> When I do a apt-get dist-upgrade though I see:
>
> The following NEW packages will be installed:
> ...linux-image-2.6-486 linux-image-2.6.32-5-486...

Do you have mindi installed?  Otherwise I cannot see a package in
sid/experimental that would pull in linux-image-2.6-486.

> which I want to avoid, because it adds to the time to do the upgrade
> and I am only interested in Debian's 2.6.33, which is still in
> experimental.
>
> Can anyone think of a way around this?

No, but please run "aptitude -s -D full-upgrade" to figure out why
linux-image-2.6-486 gets installed.

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Re: dist-upgrade wants to install linux-image-2.6.32-5-686

2010-05-19 Thread Hugo Vanwoerkom

Sven Joachim wrote:

On 2010-05-19 20:00 +0200, Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote:


I have my own kernel installed:

h...@debian:~/.fvwm$ dpkg -l | grep linux-image
ii  linux-image-2.6.33.3-hvw 1   Linux kernel binary
image for version 2.6.33.3-hvw
ii  linux-image-2.6.33.4-hvw 1   Linux kernel binary
image for version 2.6.33.4-hvw

no headers and no other debian images.

When I do a apt-get dist-upgrade though I see:

The following NEW packages will be installed:
...linux-image-2.6-486 linux-image-2.6.32-5-486...


Do you have mindi installed?  Otherwise I cannot see a package in
sid/experimental that would pull in linux-image-2.6-486.


which I want to avoid, because it adds to the time to do the upgrade
and I am only interested in Debian's 2.6.33, which is still in
experimental.

Can anyone think of a way around this?


No, but please run "aptitude -s -D full-upgrade" to figure out why
linux-image-2.6-486 gets installed.



Bingo. It's mindi. The funny thing is I install mondo(with mindi) from 
upstream because its support on Debian has fallen by the wayside:

current is 2.2.9.3-1 and debian still has 1:2.2.7-2.1.

Thanks a lot!

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Resizing Raid 1 partitions

2010-05-19 Thread Erwan David
Hi,

I have a setup with 2 disks and following raid setting:

sda1+sdb1 -> md0, /
sda2+sdb2 -> md1 swap
sda3+sdb3 -> md2 /home

I'd like to resize partitions to get more space on md2 and less on md0. 

What would bea good way to achieve this ?

I know that libparted does not handle raid partitions, so I was thinking to 
remove sdb partitions from the raid first,
resize them
then, I wonder if I may resize sda partitions. Will they be recognized as raid 
partition after being resized ? Or should I think some more magic ?

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xorg-server failing on IBM NetVista with Intel 82815 video; was Re (6): Re^n: Grub vs. linux-image-2.6.32 conundrum

2010-05-19 Thread peasthope
Date:   Wed, 19 May 2010 13:32:33 -0400 (EDT)
From:   Stephen Powell 
> Please post your /etc/X11/xorg.conf file as well.

It contains only commented lines from previous 
experiments.  Hasn't changed since the log was 
recorded.  Should be visible here.

http://carnot.pathology.ubc.ca/dalton.xorg.conf

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Re: Resizing Raid 1 partitions

2010-05-19 Thread Aaron Toponce
On 05/19/2010 12:47 PM, Erwan David wrote:
>   Hi,
> 
> I have a setup with 2 disks and following raid setting:
> 
> sda1+sdb1 -> md0, /
> sda2+sdb2 -> md1 swap
> sda3+sdb3 -> md2 /home
> 
> I'd like to resize partitions to get more space on md2 and less on md0.   
> 
> What would bea good way to achieve this ?

The "best" way to acheive this would be to use LVM above your software
RAID. At that point, it would be very painless, compared to what is
ahead of you now. If you're curious, here would be the steps:

mdadm -C /dev/md0 -n 2 -l 1 -a yes /dev/sd{a,b}
pvcreate /dev/md0
vgcreate home /dev/md0
lvcreate -L 1G -n swap home
lvcreate -L 10G -n root home
lvcreate -l 100%FREE -n home home

Then, for giving more space to home, and less to root, boot off a live
CD, and (assuming you're using ext3/4):

e2fsck /dev/home/root
resize2fs /dev/home/root 6G
lvreduce -L 6G /dev/home/root
lvextend -L +4G /dev/home/home
resize2fs /dev/home/home

That's it! However, because you chose not to use LVM, you will need to
boot of a live CD that supports Linux software RAID, rebuild the array,
and perform the resizing there. I'm not sure if GParted supports this or
not. Worth checking out, however.

I would personally recommend backing up your data, and reinstalling,
with LVM on top of your software RAID. You still have the redundancy,
and you have the awesome flexibility of resizing volumes with great ease.

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Re: network setup question

2010-05-19 Thread Jesús M. Navarro
Hi, Miles:

On Thursday 06 May 2010 14:12:56 Miles Fidelman wrote:
> Thanks to all who replied.  I'm starting to zero in on this now.
>
> A few more details:
>
> To follow up with a few more details:
>
> server1 -- hub (switch) --- server 2
>
>
> datacenter's router
>
> The hub is a basic $40 gigE switch (not switch/router) from datacenter.

Now everything seems obvious.

Provided there are no firewalls running either on server1 or server2 it should 
have to be as easy as (if this gives you a "command not found" you'll need to 
install the iproute package):

On server1:
`ip addr add 192.168.0.1/24 dev eth0`

On server2:
`ip addr add 192.168.0.2/24 dev eth0`

Now, you should be able to connect by IP from server1 to server2 and back 
(like `ssh r...@192.168.0.2` from server1 or `ping 192.168.0.1` from 
server2).

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Re: Accelerating directory's content's viewing: how, is directory is huge?

2010-05-19 Thread Merciadri Luca
Thanks!


Ardison Nicolas wrote:
> Also you can use Midnight Commander {1} a CLI soft that i think that
> is fast.
> {1} apt-get install mc


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Re: dist-upgrade wants to install linux-image-2.6.32-5-686

2010-05-19 Thread Boyd Stephen Smith Jr.
On Wednesday 19 May 2010 13:35:13 Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote:
> Sven Joachim wrote:
> > On 2010-05-19 20:00 +0200, Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote:
> >> I have my own kernel installed:
> >>
> >> h...@debian:~/.fvwm$ dpkg -l | grep linux-image
> >> ii  linux-image-2.6.33.3-hvw 1   Linux kernel binary
> >> image for version 2.6.33.3-hvw
> >> ii  linux-image-2.6.33.4-hvw 1   Linux kernel binary
> >> image for version 2.6.33.4-hvw
> >>
> >> no headers and no other debian images.
> >>
> >> When I do a apt-get dist-upgrade though I see:
> >>
> >> The following NEW packages will be installed:
> >> ...linux-image-2.6-486 linux-image-2.6.32-5-486...
> >
> > Do you have mindi installed?  Otherwise I cannot see a package in
> > sid/experimental that would pull in linux-image-2.6-486.
> 
> Bingo. It's mindi. The funny thing is I install mondo(with mindi) from
> upstream because its support on Debian has fallen by the wayside:
> current is 2.2.9.3-1 and debian still has 1:2.2.7-2.1.

Two patch levels (2.2.9 vs. 2.2.7) is fallen by the wayside?  Really?  It 
looks like some of those changes even got integrated into the package -- there 
was an NMU for it (Debian revision 2.1).

Depending on the scope of patch level changes on this project (x.y.z -> x = 
Major, y = Minor, z = Patch level), I don't think missing a few is a big deal.
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Re: Moving a drive to another computer

2010-05-19 Thread Paul E Condon
On 20100519_124653, Vince Vielhaber wrote:
> 
> A friend was running windows and the viruses got the best of it. She
> sent me the drive so I could get her pics and documents off of it and
> put 5.0.4 on it and send it back (she's a few states away).
> 
> What problems (and solutions) should I be expecting when she installs
> the drive in her computer?  I'm assuming the network setup will be one
> problem.
> 
> My background is mainly in FreeBSD.  If a drive is set up as being
> /dev/ad0 and the other machine sees it as /dev/ad4 it won't complete
> the boot, it'll complain with a cannot mount root error.  Will that be
> an issue with Debian?
> 
> Thanks!
> Vince.

Since your asking I assume you've never done it before. 
Split the job into two separate tasks: 
1) Get the pix off.
2) Install 5.0.4

1) install the drive as a second HD on a computer that boots
from the first HD, and explore what is on the drive. Mount your 
friend's drive ro (read only). Depending on how many pix you find,
choose an appropriate storage medium to copy pix to. 

Then 2) install 5.0.4, which will be much less nerve wracking if you
don't have to worry about losing the pix.

HTH

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Re: xorg-server failing on IBM NetVista with Intel 82815 video; was Re (6): Re^n: Grub vs. linux-image-2.6.32 conundrum

2010-05-19 Thread Stephen Powell
On Wed, 19 May 2010 15:32:01 -0400 (EDT), Peter Easthope wrote:
> Stephen Powell wrote:
>> Please post your /etc/X11/xorg.conf file as well.
> 
> It contains only commented lines from previous 
> experiments.  Hasn't changed since the log was 
> recorded.  Should be visible here.
> 
> http://carnot.pathology.ubc.ca/dalton.xorg.conf
> 

I see.  All comments.  Which is about the same as not having one.  Hmm.
Well, going back to an earlier post:

On Tue, 11 May 2010 16:29:39 -0700, Peter Easthope wrote:
> dalton:/home/peter# startx 
>...
> (EE) open /dev/fb0: No such file or directory
> SELinux: Disabled on system, not enabling X server
> 
> waiting for X server to shut down ...
> 
> dalton:/home/peter#

What puzzles me is the message, "waiting for server to shut down".  What
caused that error?  Did you do a Ctrl+Alt+Backspace to request a shutdown?
Or did it shutdown automatically?  If so, what caused the error?  Was it
the "/dev/fb0: No such file or directory" error?  Or was it SELinux-related?
I've never had any SELinux-related problems on my system.  Just for grins,
let's try an /etc/X11/xorg.conf file that looks like this:

-

 Section "Device"
 Identifier  "Configured Video Device"
 Driver  "intel"
 EndSection

 Section "Monitor"
 Identifier  "Configured Monitor"
 EndSection

 Section "Screen"
 Identifier  "Default Screen"
 Device  "Configured Video Device"
 Monitor "Configured Monitor"
 DefaultDepth16
 Subsection  "Display"
 Depth   16
 Modes   "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"
 EndSubSection
 EndSection

 Section "ServerLayout"
 Identifier  "Default Layout"
 Screen  "Default Screen"
 EndSection

-

This forces it to use the intel driver or die.  It won't try any other.
And it gives it three standard resolutions to try.
Maybe we can tweak it later, but let's see if it will
at least display something.

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Re: Moving a drive to another computer

2010-05-19 Thread Vince Vielhaber


On Wed, 19 May 2010, Paul E Condon wrote:


On 20100519_124653, Vince Vielhaber wrote:


A friend was running windows and the viruses got the best of it. She
sent me the drive so I could get her pics and documents off of it and
put 5.0.4 on it and send it back (she's a few states away).

What problems (and solutions) should I be expecting when she installs
the drive in her computer?  I'm assuming the network setup will be one
problem.

My background is mainly in FreeBSD.  If a drive is set up as being
/dev/ad0 and the other machine sees it as /dev/ad4 it won't complete
the boot, it'll complain with a cannot mount root error.  Will that be
an issue with Debian?

Thanks!
Vince.


Since your asking I assume you've never done it before.
Split the job into two separate tasks:
1) Get the pix off.
2) Install 5.0.4

1) install the drive as a second HD on a computer that boots
from the first HD, and explore what is on the drive. Mount your
friend's drive ro (read only). Depending on how many pix you find,
choose an appropriate storage medium to copy pix to.

Then 2) install 5.0.4, which will be much less nerve wracking if you
don't have to worry about losing the pix.


I'm just not sure about the linux part.  The first thing I did was
copied the entire windows drive to one on my desktop.  The pix and
stuff are safe.  I just want the installation on her end to be as
painless (for both of us) as possible.

I just set up my daughter's machine the same way this one will be
set up so I'm going to apply the suggestions I got earlier to my
daughter's drive and move it to another machine (or three) and see
how it goes.  I'm really not a fan of surprises!

Thanks!
Vince.
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Re: Chromium Xperience

2010-05-19 Thread KS
Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote:
> 
> Good question. I now use Google Chrome 5.0.375.38 beta exclusively.
> I loaded it down from their site. Is there a debian package?
> 
chromium-browser


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Question regarding Mutt

2010-05-19 Thread Dominik Plümacher
Hello dear list,

I have a question regarding encrypting and signing an email in mutt
with an (yet) unsigned public key.

A colleague of mine has a new pgp-key which is only self-signed yet. I
downloaded it from a key-server an tried to write an encrypted email to
him. As expected mutt warned me about using an unknown key an asked me
explicitly to continue. After I entered my passphrase for signing gpg
refused to encrypt the mail saying "unusable public key".

Now trying to encrypt (and signing) something from command line with
the key seemed to work, at least no error messages were reported.

This is what I was expecting from mutt too, since in both cases I was
asked explicitly to proceed (which is what I want). So I figured it
may be some option in my mutt config which causes this difference. But
I am using plain gpg.rc file from debians mutt package, sourced by my
mutt config.
Calling gpg with the same options set by gpg.rc in variable
pgp_encrypt_sign_command also worked. The only thing I didn't
completely reproduced is the %?a?... magic after the --sign option.

Since I do not want to add an --always-trust option in my gpg.rc and
think that encrypting to an (yet) unsigned key should be possible, I
wonder where the problem might be.
Maybe I just misunderstood something so any hints are welcome. 

An google search brought up some hints about key-server mangling
subkeys may causing this error, but using another key-server didn't help.
I had to (temporally) sign the key for encryption in mutt to work.

Kind regards,

Dominik Pluemacher


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Re: Moving a drive to another computer

2010-05-19 Thread Rob Owens
On Wed, May 19, 2010 at 12:46:53PM -0400, Vince Vielhaber wrote:
>
> A friend was running windows and the viruses got the best of it. She
> sent me the drive so I could get her pics and documents off of it and
> put 5.0.4 on it and send it back (she's a few states away).
>
> What problems (and solutions) should I be expecting when she installs
> the drive in her computer?  I'm assuming the network setup will be one
> problem.
>
> My background is mainly in FreeBSD.  If a drive is set up as being
> /dev/ad0 and the other machine sees it as /dev/ad4 it won't complete
> the boot, it'll complain with a cannot mount root error.  Will that be
> an issue with Debian?
>
Besides the fstab and udev issues that others posted, you should be
pretty good.  I recommend setting up a button on her desktop that sets
up an ssh tunnel so you can get in and add/fix stuff.

-Rob


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Re (2): xorg-server failing on IBM NetVista with Intel 82815 video

2010-05-19 Thread peasthope
From:   Stephen Powell 
Date:   Wed, 19 May 2010 17:29:18 -0400 (EDT)
> Did you do a Ctrl+Alt+Backspace to request a shutdown?
> Or did it shutdown automatically? 

I did nothing but issue startx.  No intervention 
to cause the server to shut down.

> If so, what caused the error?

Selinux or MTRR, whatever it is?  See following.

Three selinux packages are installed.
  selinux-policy-default
  libselinux1
  python-selinux
Appears that I shouldn't remove libselinux1 at least.

> try an /etc/X11/xorg.conf file that looks like this:

Active lines are down past the comments.
http://carnot.pathology.ubc.ca/dalton.xorg.conf
yields
http://carnot.pathology.ubc.ca/dalton.Xorg.0.log

Now in the log there is no (EE) and no /dev/fb0.  
This is what appears on the screen after startx is issued.

pe...@dalton:~$ startx 
  [many lines omitted]
(==) Using system config directory "/usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d"
error setting MTRR (base = 0xf800, size = 0x0300, type = 1) Inappropriat
e ioctl for device (25)
SELinux: Disabled on system, not enabling in X server

waiting for X server to shut down ...error setting MTRR (base = 0xf800, size
 = 0x0300, type = 1) Inappropriate ioctl for device (25)


pe...@dalton:~$

Regards,... Peter E.

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Newbie needinhg a screen reader

2010-05-19 Thread David Hoff Jr
I am a current Windows XP User but want to convert to Linux.

I have downloaded the Debian 5.0.4 CD and need to know which other CD's
I need to download to have a working screen reader.   Since I only have
a dialup connection I need the CD's to install required packages rather
than trying to do them over the internet. My wife and grandchildren can
help me with installation.   Any suggestions would be appreciated.  I
have tried Vinux 3.0 but Ubuntu does not include modem support.
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Re: Newbie needinhg a screen reader

2010-05-19 Thread Thierry Chatelet
On Thursday 20 May 2010 02:12:55 David Hoff Jr wrote:
> I am a current Windows XP User but want to convert to Linux.
> 
> I have downloaded the Debian 5.0.4 CD and need to know which other CD's
> I need to download to have a working screen reader.   Since I only have
> a dialup connection I need the CD's to install required packages rather
> than trying to do them over the internet. My wife and grandchildren can
> help me with installation.   Any suggestions would be appreciated.  I
> have tried Vinux 3.0 but Ubuntu does not include modem support.

You have to know what type of cpu you have: 64 or 32 bits. Then get the cd's, 
either amd64 or i386, unless you have something else than intel or amd cpu. 
Then you have to decide which graphic interface you want: KDE, gnome xfce or 
an other one. Search the net to make your choice. I doubt you will need more 
than the first  cd for gnome, or the kde or xfce+lxde cds if you choose one of 
these graphical interface.(I am using kde). If you need more application, you 
can always download cd2 after, it should meet all your needs. As far as modem 
support, I have no idea, but someone else can help you..
Thierry


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Re: Re (2): xorg-server failing on IBM NetVista with Intel 82815 video

2010-05-19 Thread Stephen Powell
On Wed, 19 May 2010 18:43:41 -0400 (EDT), Peter Easthope wrote:
> Now in the log there is no (EE) and no /dev/fb0.  
> This is what appears on the screen after startx is issued.
> 
> pe...@dalton:~$ startx 
>   [many lines omitted]
> (==) Using system config directory "/usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d"
> error setting MTRR (base = 0xf800, size = 0x0300, type = 1) 
> Inappropriat
> e ioctl for device (25)
> SELinux: Disabled on system, not enabling in X server
> 
> waiting for X server to shut down ...error setting MTRR (base = 0xf800, 
> size
>  = 0x0300, type = 1) Inappropriate ioctl for device (25)
> 
> 
> pe...@dalton:~$
> 
> Regards,... Peter E.

This may be unrelated, but I noticed from the log that ACPI is disabled.  A 
standard
stock Debian kernel has ACPI enabled by default.  The only way it should fail 
is if
you have a kernel boot parameter to disable it.  Please post your /etc/lilo.conf
file.

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iceweasel crashing when closing tabs

2010-05-19 Thread briand
Hi,

I'm running sid..

Just started happening after the latest upgrade.  Looks like the
current version of iceweasel is 3.5.9.

I think it's related to javascript, but then again I think all browser
problems are related to javascript, I mean when they're not related to
flash.

I was wondering if anyone else is seeing this behavior.



Brian


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Re: iceweasel crashing when closing tabs

2010-05-19 Thread RyanJB
Hi there,

That's odd. Mine is 3.5.9 too but I didn't notice any crashes. Does all your 
tab crash or just on specific websites? If you suspect javascript is the 
problem, try disabling it and see what happens.

Regards
RJB
-Original Message-
From: 
Date: Wed, 19 May 2010 20:22:48 
To: 
Subject: iceweasel crashing when closing tabs

Hi,

I'm running sid..

Just started happening after the latest upgrade.  Looks like the
current version of iceweasel is 3.5.9.

I think it's related to javascript, but then again I think all browser
problems are related to javascript, I mean when they're not related to
flash.

I was wondering if anyone else is seeing this behavior.



Brian


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Re: iceweasel crashing when closing tabs

2010-05-19 Thread briand
On Thu, 20 May 2010 04:19:22 +
"RyanJB"  wrote:

> Hi there,
> 
> That's odd. Mine is 3.5.9 too but I didn't notice any crashes. Does
> all your tab crash or just on specific websites? If you suspect
> javascript is the problem, try disabling it and see what happens.
> 

It just started so I'm still trying to sort out whether it's specific
sites, javascript, etc..

javascript is turned off and that definitely seems to help.

I'm trying to figure out if it's certain sites.

of course none of this is useful until it's repeatable, hence the
reason I'm asking if their is anyone else seeing this.

Brian

> Regards
> RJB
> -Original Message-
> From: 
> Date: Wed, 19 May 2010 20:22:48 
> To: 
> Subject: iceweasel crashing when closing tabs
> 
> Hi,
> 
> I'm running sid..
> 
> Just started happening after the latest upgrade.  Looks like the
> current version of iceweasel is 3.5.9.
> 
> I think it's related to javascript, but then again I think all browser
> problems are related to javascript, I mean when they're not related to
> flash.
> 
> I was wondering if anyone else is seeing this behavior.
> 
> 
> 
> Brian
> 
> 


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Re: iceweasel crashing when closing tabs

2010-05-19 Thread briand
On Thu, 20 May 2010 04:19:22 +
"RyanJB"  wrote:

> Hi there,
> 
> That's odd. Mine is 3.5.9 too but I didn't notice any crashes. Does
> all your tab crash or just on specific websites? If you suspect
> javascript is the problem, try disabling it and see what happens.
> 

oh yeah, I forgot.  Is this EVER going to get fixed ? Does it need to
be fixed.  I get BAZILLIONs of these messages flowing out from
iceweasel.



   (firefox-bin:19665): Gdk-WARNING **: XID collision, trouble ahead



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Re: Thunderbird's WebMail addon (used together with `-Hotmail' extension of it) download sometimes all the e-mails since some date, even if they have already been retrieved at another period

2010-05-19 Thread Phil Requirements
On 2010-05-18 22:16:57 +0200, tv.deb...@googlemail.com wrote:
> Le 18/05/2010 21:30, Merciadri Luca wrote:
> >some add-ons, such as `WebMail'. This add-on lets it fetch your e-mails
> >from mail servers only dealing with special protocols (not as POP, IMAP,
> >etc.). I use it together with `WebMail -Hotmail', that is, to check my
>
> Hi, don't know about your problem but there's no need any more for
> webmail hotmail addon, just use pop3.live.com as your pop server and
> smtp.live.com for smtp. It works with "old" accounts in @hotmail
> too.
> 

+1 for this suggestion.

I remember the days when I had to set up a computer to get Hotmail
using the WebMail add-on. It never seemed to work quite right.

But then a magical thing happened and Microsoft started having a
POP3 service for hotmail accounts. We kicked that WebMail add-on
to the curb, and never looked back.

Have a nice day,

Phil


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