Re: A recommendation from a friend

[Stef Daniels VK5HSX]

Well, I never realised someone could get interested in a 
Mailing Lists personal data !!  ;-)


It takes all types!!  :-)

rita ukazi wrote:

ritab...@live.fr

hello

my names is ms. Rita Ukazi. i saw your personal data and became 
interested in you.


i wait  for your mail so that i can send my pictures to you and tell you 
all about me also we can start from there.


hope to here from you

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Spam

[Freeman]

Has there been an increase of spam on the list over the past few weeks?  I
started filtering the list, which I don't like doing.  But no avail.  I
assume it passes my filters for the same reason it gets by list filters.

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Re: A recommendation from a friend

[Wolodja Wentland]

On Wed, Apr 07, 2010 at 16:21 +0930, Stef Daniels VK5HSX wrote:
> Well, I never realised someone could get interested in a Mailing
> Lists personal data !!  ;-)
Please do not reply to spam and even if you do *don't* quote it.

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Good Use for ClamAV

[Freeman]

I'll always be slowly catching up on comp tech. 

I was using Knoppix and ClamAV to remove a virus for a friend when the
futility of it all hit me.  The free anti-virus hopscotch game that windows
users play to feel safe.  What wasted energy--over an OS I boot into maybe
7% of the time.  They screw up half the time.

There isn't a big demand for ClamAV on the Debian partitions of a
laptop/desktop.  But I'll be scheduling scans of the XP partition from
Debian.  Doh!

There is even a ClamAV *win32* for the unlucky.
 
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Re: Good Use for ClamAV

[Jari Fredriksson]

On 7.4.2010 10:51, Freeman wrote:
> I'll always be slowly catching up on comp tech. 
> 
> I was using Knoppix and ClamAV to remove a virus for a friend when the
> futility of it all hit me.  The free anti-virus hopscotch game that windows
> users play to feel safe.  What wasted energy--over an OS I boot into maybe
> 7% of the time.  They screw up half the time.
> 
> There isn't a big demand for ClamAV on the Debian partitions of a
> laptop/desktop.  But I'll be scheduling scans of the XP partition from
> Debian.  Doh!
> 
> There is even a ClamAV *win32* for the unlucky.
>  

I don't scan my disk partitions with it, but all incoming as well as
outgoing email is scanned with ClamAV (by amavisd-new). ClamAV with some
3rd party signatures (SaneSecurity) works quite well in that. Not
because it detects good, but clamav_daemon is the only daemonized FREE
anti-virus for Linux.

And my Linux is a server for my Windows workstation. Without Windows, I
would not bother scanning viruses.

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Re: Display Problems with several Web Browsers

[Camaleón]

On Tue, 06 Apr 2010 23:43:48 +0200, Robin Krahl wrote:

> I’m having strange display problems with several web browsers. Certain
> layout parts (as borders or backgrounds) aren’t at the appropriate
> place; and they’re moving if I hover them. I encountered this problem
> with the following browsers:
> 
>  - iceweasel from lenny-backports
>  - firefox downloaded directly from Mozilla 
>  - epiphany from lenny-backports

(...)

The sample page renders fine here, with iceweasel from lenny-backports 
and a fresh downloaded Firefox from Mozilla.

Try by starting the browser with a new (empty) profile.

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Re: Display Problems with several Web Browsers

[Robin Krahl]

On 07.04.2010 10:01, Camaleón wrote:
> Try by starting the browser with a new (empty) profile.

I already tried; it didn’t work either.

I’m just trying to upgrade from lenny to squeeze as someone told me
backports may (!) cause a problem. I hope it will work then ...

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Re: nvidia legacy driver//kernel 2.6.32 issues

[Francesco Pietra]

Solved through LinuxQuestions forum. Forget about this thread.
fp

On Tue, Apr 6, 2010 at 4:46 PM, Francesco Pietra  wrote:
> Following "apt-get dist-upgrade" with debian squeeze i386, upgrading
> from kernel 2.6.30 to 2.6.32, the xserver was broken at "startx"
> because kernel compiled with gcc 4.3 while now gcc 4.4. I could only
> boot from previous 2.6.30 to have the xserver at startx.
>
> Following
>
> export CC=/usr/bin/gcc-4.3
>
> I reinstalled the nvidia driver "NVIDIA-Linux-x86-96.43.16-pk1.run"
> for my "GeForce2 MX200 (rev b2)", the driver installed correctly and
> was reconfigured correctly according to the nvidia installer messages,
> though, again, it works for 2.6.30, not for 2.6.32. Please see below
> the relevant portion of /var/log/Xorg.0.log:
> #
> II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/drivers/nvidia_drv.so
> (II) Module nvidia: vendor="NVIDIA Corporation"
> compiled for 4.0.2, module version = 1.0.0
> Module class: X.Org Video Driver
> (II) NVIDIA dlloader X Driver 96.43.16 Thu Jan 28 16:02:25 PST 2010
> (II) NVIDIA Unified Driver for all Supported NVIDIA GPUs
> (II) Primary Device is: PCI 0...@00:00:0
> (II) Loading sub module "fb"
> (II) LoadModule: "fb"
> (II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/libfb.so
> (II) Module fb: vendor="X.Org Foundation"
> compiled for 1.7.6, module version = 1.0.0
> ABI class: X.Org ANSI C Emulation, version 0.4
> (II) Loading sub module "ramdac"
> (II) LoadModule: "ramdac"
> (II) Module "ramdac" already built-in
> (**) NVIDIA(0): Depth 24, (--) framebuffer bpp 32
> (==) NVIDIA(0): RGB weight 888
> (==) NVIDIA(0): Default visual is TrueColor
> (==) NVIDIA(0): Using gamma correction (1.0, 1.0, 1.0)
> (**) NVIDIA(0): Enabling RENDER acceleration
> (II) NVIDIA(0): Support for GLX with the Damage and Composite X extensions is
> (II) NVIDIA(0): enabled.
> (EE) NVIDIA(0): Failed to load the NVIDIA kernel module!
> (EE) NVIDIA(0): *** Aborting ***
> (II) UnloadModule: "nvidia"
> (II) UnloadModule: "fb"
> (EE) Screen(s) found, but none have a usable configuration.
> #
>
> With previous 2.6.30 I used successfully either the debian way or the
> nvidia installer (actually, I remained at the nvidia installer
> installation of the driver). Now I am using the 2.6.30 kernel with the
> installation for 2.6.32, which is too bad.
>
> thanks
> francesco pietra
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Re: Re: A recommendation from a friend

[Stef & Sue Daniels]

 Firstly, I did not reply to message.. look at the fields. 
 
 Secondly, talking about something isn't going or quoting in an email 
shouldn't cause problems surely. 
 
 Regards,  
 Stef Daniels  
 
 On Wed 07/04/10 17:18 , Wolodja Wentland 
wentl...@cl.uni-heidelberg.de sent: 
 On Wed, Apr 07, 2010 at 16:21 +0930, Stef Daniels VK5HSX wrote: 
 > Well, I never realised someone could get interested in a Mailing 
 > Lists personal data !! ;-) 
 Please do not reply to spam and even if you do *don't* quote it. 
 
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Re: Debian And Advanced Layer3 9924T

[Stan Hoeppner]

Andreas Weber put forth on 4/6/2010 4:12 PM:
> Stan Hoeppner wrote:
>> Please forgive me if my choice of words offended you.  That wasn't my
>> intention at all.  I was speaking figuratively, not literally.
> 
> No problem, thanks for your feedback. Your point is clear and I can very
> well understand your disagreement with my recommendation.
> 
>> My point was
>> that swapping out the production switch, which probably has others users
>> plugged in, ...
> 
> I assumed differently here (new switch in the house, first tests), but
> the OP isn't precise about that IMO.
> 
> I'll try to be as little ambiguous as possible the next time, sorry.

No sweat.  We're all on the same team.  I wish Alejandro would send an
update.  I'm kinda curious as to what was/is actually causing the problem.
>From the very sparse info he provided, the cause could really be nearly
anything.

Come to think of it, has he even replied to any of our posts?  It doesn't
look like he has.  Seems that communication with the Cubans on debian-users
is just plain spotty, whatever the reason.

If we don't hear back, I hope he got it working.

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Re: Display Problems with several Web Browsers

[Camaleón]

On Wed, 07 Apr 2010 10:06:38 +0200, Robin Krahl wrote:

> On 07.04.2010 10:01, Camaleón wrote:
>> Try by starting the browser with a new (empty) profile.
> 
> I already tried; it didn’t work either.

Ouch! :-(

What I find strange is you are getting the same problem with the direct 
downloaded Mozilla version as this should use its own packages and 
rendering framework :-?
 
> I’m just trying to upgrade from lenny to squeeze as someone told me
> backports may (!) cause a problem. I hope it will work then ...

Well, I would not say "problems"... some "glitches" maybe, but nothing 
serious if you put some care on it.

Anyway, updating the whole OS to testing just for the browser is having a 
problem to display some CSS stuff is a bit... adventurous? :-)

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Re: Retrieve hardware and modules info..

[Lubos Rendek]

thanks Stephen this is exactly what I was looking for. :-)

On Mon, Apr 5, 2010 at 8:53 AM, Stephen Powell  wrote:
> On Sun, 4 Apr 2010 17:36:03 -0400 (EDT), Lubos Rendek wrote:
>>
>> thanks guys for this.. Now what is the best way to link modules to a
>> specific hardware. for example my lsmod shows that I use 'ecb' module.
>> For someone like me this name does not say much. Is there a way to
>> find which module belongs to which piece of hardware?
>
>   /sbin/modinfo ecb
>
> The "description" line is helpful of course.  And the "alias" lines
> identify which pieces of hardware will cause the module to be loaded,
> for most device drivers.  (Some older device drivers don't have any
> internal aliases and require help from external aliases to load
> automatically when the corresponding hardware device is detected.
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recompiling the kernel with a different version name

[Lorenzo Bettini]

Hi

I've just recompiled the kernel from sources with the command

fakeroot make-kpkg --initrd --append-to-version=-recompiled kernel-image 
kernel-headers


and installed it successfully.

However, the kernel name is

2.6.32.10+drm33.1-recompiled

and that "+drm33.1" seems to cause problems to Eclipse which does not 
recognize it as a valid version (I think the problem is with the '+' 
character).


Is there a way to change the version so that I can do without that '+'?

thanks in advance
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Re: Spam

[John Hasler]

Freeman writes:
> Has there been an increase of spam on the list over the past few
> weeks?

I have observed a general increase in spam.

> I started filtering the list, which I don't like doing.

I've been filtering the lists for years.  The listmasters do a good job,
but their filters can't know my ham as mine can.

> But no avail.  I assume it passes my filters for the same reason it
> gets by list filters.

The latter is mostly a matter of sheer bulk: almost every message that
hits the Debian servers is spam.  What filters are you using?
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Re: Display Problems with several Web Browsers

[Robin Krahl]

On 07.04.2010 13:06, Camaleón wrote:
> Anyway, updating the whole OS to testing just for the browser is having a 
> problem to display some CSS stuff is a bit... adventurous? :-)

Furthermore, it did not help. :-/

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Re: Good Use for ClamAV

[Monsieur Louk]

2010/4/7 Jari Fredriksson 

> On 7.4.2010 10:51, Freeman wrote:
> > I'll always be slowly catching up on comp tech.
> >
> > I was using Knoppix and ClamAV to remove a virus for a friend when the
> > futility of it all hit me.  The free anti-virus hopscotch game that
> windows
> > users play to feel safe.  What wasted energy--over an OS I boot into
> maybe
> > 7% of the time.  They screw up half the time.
> >
> > There isn't a big demand for ClamAV on the Debian partitions of a
> > laptop/desktop.  But I'll be scheduling scans of the XP partition from
> > Debian.  Doh!
> >
> > There is even a ClamAV *win32* for the unlucky.
> >
>
> I don't scan my disk partitions with it, but all incoming as well as
> outgoing email is scanned with ClamAV (by amavisd-new). ClamAV with some
> 3rd party signatures (SaneSecurity) works quite well in that. Not
> because it detects good, but clamav_daemon is the only daemonized FREE
> anti-virus for Linux.
>
> And my Linux is a server for my Windows workstation. Without Windows, I
> would not bother scanning viruses.
>
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>
Windows has (recently?) released Security Essentials which is surprisingly
good for a free AV. Coulb be worth looking into it. The win version of
ClamAV is, AFAIK, sadly outdated.

Re: Good Use for ClamAV

[Ron Johnson]

On 2010-04-07 02:51, Freeman wrote:
I'll always be slowly catching up on comp tech. 


I was using Knoppix and ClamAV to remove a virus for a friend when the
futility of it all hit me.  The free anti-virus hopscotch game that windows
users play to feel safe.


http://xkcd.com/463/


  What wasted energy--over an OS I boot into maybe
7% of the time.  They screw up half the time.



By having my wife/kids run Windows from "named" unpriv accounts, 
using Tbird/Firefox/ABP/Flashblock and not logging into social media 
sites, we've kept their system virus-free for 5 years.


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Re: nvidia legacy driver//kernel 2.6.32 issues

[Ron Johnson]

On 2010-04-07 04:38, Francesco Pietra wrote:

Solved through LinuxQuestions forum. Forget about this thread.


It would have been helpful to post the relevant link...

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Re: how to control tty to external monitor or local lcd

[Stephen Powell]

On Wed, 7 Apr 2010 02:31:48 -0400 (EDT), Alexander Samad wrote:
> On Wed, Apr 7, 2010 at 11:55 AM, Stephen Powell wrote:
>> On Tue, 6 Apr 2010 18:53:46 -0400 (EDT), Alex Samad wrote:
>>>
>>> Okay a couple of things, I thing we are talking similiar and dissimiliar
>>> things.
>>>
>>>
>>> turn on laptop - not connected to ext monitor
>>> loads debian
>>> starts gdm
>>> login
>>> connect to external monitor
>>> use xrandr to move screen to ext monitor
>>> close lid on laptop
>>> use alt+ctrl+f1 to get to tty1
>>>
>>> the ext monitor stays on the X screen and the laptop monitors goes to
>>> the tty - but the lid is closed, I want to move the tty to the ext
>>> monitor
>>>
>>> hope that clears it up...
>>
>> How can you use Ctrl+Alt+F1 to switch to virtual terminal number 1 if the
>> lid is closed?  Are you using an external keyboard as well as an external
>> monitor?  You never mentioned that.
>>
> 
> yep external keyboard - does that make a difference !

For most things, no.  But the key combination to switch to the external
monitor requires that special Fn key, which is present only on the internal
keyboard.

>>
>> I have an IBM ThinkPad 600.  Here's what I do:
>>
>> (1) While the laptop is powered off, I connect the external monitor.
>> I do not connect an external keyboard.
>>
>> (2) I power on the external monitor, then I power on the laptop.
>>
>> (3) As soon as possible during the boot process, usually after "LILO"
>> has been written to the screen but before the timeout occurs to
>> boot the default kernel (which for me is a four-second window),
>> I use Fn+F7 on the internal keyboard to switch to the external monitor.
>>
> 
> I don;t need to do that, my laptop autoamically picks the external monitor
> if the lid is closed - on boot up

Closing the lid may cause other problems.  Many laptops are set up to
enter suspend or hibernate mode when the lid is closed, unless they are
currently installed in a docking station.  Apparently yours isn't,
but this operating state is one that I'm not familiar with.

>>
>> (4) By the time the kernel boots, the display is on the external
>> monitor for the text-mode portion of the boot.
>>
>> (5) When gdm starts, the graphical console also displays on the
>> external monitor.
>>
>> (6) When I use Ctrl+Alt+F1 on the *internal* keyboard, without
>> closing the lid, the display switches to virtual terminal 1 on
>> the external monitor.
>>
>> (7) When I use Alt+F7 to switch back to the graphical console,
>> the display stays on the external monitor.
>>
> 
> yep this doesn't work on mine, plus I want to do it from software. I would
> like a xrandr for the console if such a thing exists

Maybe it doesn't work on yours because you're not doing it the way
I suggest.  You insist on closing the lid and using an external keyboard.
The key combination to switch to the external monitor may not be
Fn+F7 on your laptop.  Maybe it's Fn+F2.  Consult your hardware documentation.
But there should be a way.  xrandr is an X-specific tool.  I know of no 
equivalent
tool for the console.  Once you switch to the external monitor with
Fn+F2, or whatever, and have verified that both text mode consoles and
the graphical console are using the external monitor, then try using
the external keyboard.  If everything is still working, then try closing
the lid.

If this procedure doesn't work, then I'm out of ideas.  You're on your own.

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Re: Retrieve hardware and modules info..

[Stephen Powell]

On Wed, 7 Apr 2010 07:45:25 -0400 (EDT), Lubos Rendek wrote:
> On Mon, Apr 5, 2010 at 8:53 AM, Stephen Powell wrote:
>> On Sun, 4 Apr 2010 17:36:03 -0400 (EDT), Lubos Rendek wrote:
>>>
>>> thanks guys for this.. Now what is the best way to link modules to a
>>> specific hardware. for example my lsmod shows that I use 'ecb' module.
>>> For someone like me this name does not say much. Is there a way to
>>> find which module belongs to which piece of hardware?
>>
>>   /sbin/modinfo ecb
>>
>> The "description" line is helpful of course.  And the "alias" lines
>> identify which pieces of hardware will cause the module to be loaded,
>> for most device drivers.  (Some older device drivers don't have any
>> internal aliases and require help from external aliases to load
>> automatically when the corresponding hardware device is detected.
>
> thanks Stephen this is exactly what I was looking for. :-)

You're welcome.  But please don't "top post".
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Top_posting

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Re: Spam

[Glenn English]

On Apr 7, 2010, at 6:24 AM, John Hasler wrote:

> The latter is mostly a matter of sheer bulk: almost every message that
> hits the Debian servers is spam.  

The Debian listmoms might want to pass on their blocking techniques to openBSD 
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Re: recompiling the kernel with a different version name

[Stephen Powell]

On Wed, 7 Apr 2010 07:56:46 -0400 (EDT), Lorenzo Bettini wrote:
> 
> I've just recompiled the kernel from sources with the command
> 
> fakeroot make-kpkg --initrd --append-to-version=-recompiled kernel-image 
> kernel-headers
> 
> and installed it successfully.
> 
> However, the kernel name is
> 
> 2.6.32.10+drm33.1-recompiled
> 
> and that "+drm33.1" seems to cause problems to Eclipse which does not 
> recognize it as a valid version (I think the problem is with the '+' 
> character).
> 
> Is there a way to change the version so that I can do without that '+'?
> 
> thanks in advance
>   Lorenzo

First of all, I don't know if you've already read this, but I recommend
the following web page to all those who need or want to compile a custom
kernel for Debian: http://www.wowway.com/~zlinuxman/Kernel.htm.  It should
tell you all you need to know (and probably a lot more than you wanted to
know).

My suspicion is that you may have set variables such as CONFIG_LOCALVERSION
and CONFIG_LOCALVERSION_AUTO while configuring the kernel.  Don't do that.
make-kpkg has it's own way of modifying the kernel version.  This is
covered under Step 8 in the next-to-last paragraph.

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Re: Good Use for ClamAV

[godo]

Freeman wrote:
I'll always be slowly catching up on comp tech. 


I was using Knoppix and ClamAV to remove a virus for a friend when the
futility of it all hit me.  The free anti-virus hopscotch game that windows
users play to feel safe.  What wasted energy--over an OS I boot into maybe
7% of the time.  They screw up half the time.

There isn't a big demand for ClamAV on the Debian partitions of a
laptop/desktop.  But I'll be scheduling scans of the XP partition from
Debian.  Doh!

There is even a ClamAV *win32* for the unlucky.
 


How ClamAV is really good?
I don't have any problem with my XP last ~2y. since when I'm on Debian. 
NIC is disabled and driver uninstalled :-) In fact, rarely use it.


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Re: Umont ownership?

[jeremy jozwik]

On Tue, Apr 6, 2010 at 7:51 AM, Sjoerd Hardeman
 wrote:
> For a regular user, you need to be in the plugdev group to mount and
> unmount.

# adduser po plugdev
The user `po' is already a member of `plugdev'.

On Tue, Apr 6, 2010 at 9:36 AM, Stephen Powell  wrote:
> Oh, wait, did you say that the group file is *empty*! (i.e., a file
> with zero byte size)!

so get this. yesterday that file was entirely empty. today...   looks
just like group-
maybe thats because i looked at it after the step above?

On Tue, Apr 6, 2010 at 10:51 AM, Camaleón  wrote:
> We still don't know if "umount" works when logged with another user in a
> GNOME session :-?

made a new user, made sure that the user is part of the plugdev group.

$ umount /dev/sdb1
umount: /dev/sdb1: not mounted
umount: /media/video: must be superuser to umount
umount: /dev/sdb1: not mounted
umount: /media/video: must be superuser to umount

that was done under the new user login, not root. along with that
"right click-unmount" on the media icon in GNOME results in nothing.
no error, no unmounting.


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silverlight

[steef]

hi folks!

somebody out there knows of an linux_equivalent for MS's siverlight??

regards,

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Re: Umont ownership?

[jeremy jozwik]

looking around some more...

/dev/ ownerships.
# ls -l
[snip]
brw-rw 1 root disk  8,   1 2010-04-07 07:06 sda1
brw-rw 1 root disk  8,   2 2010-04-07 07:06 sda2
brw-rw 1 root disk  8,   5 2010-04-07 07:06 sda5
brw-rw 1 root floppy8,  16 2010-04-07 07:40 sdb
brw-rw 1 root floppy8,  17 2010-04-07 07:40 sdb1

/mnt/ ownerships
# ls -l
total 8
drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 2009-10-09 08:03 KFP320
drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 2010-04-05 19:58 video

are those correct? should a regular user have rights for the /dev/ folders?


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Re: Umont ownership?

[Camaleón]

On Wed, 07 Apr 2010 07:30:42 -0700, jeremy jozwik wrote:

> On Tue, Apr 6, 2010 at 10:51 AM, Camaleón wrote:
>> We still don't know if "umount" works when logged with another user in
>> a GNOME session :-?
> 
> made a new user, made sure that the user is part of the plugdev group.

First, check the device perms with "mount" command and put here the 
results.

> $ umount /dev/sdb1
> umount: /dev/sdb1: not mounted
> umount: /media/video: must be superuser to umount umount: /dev/sdb1: not
> mounted
> umount: /media/video: must be superuser to umount

So same message you got with your usual user :-/

> that was done under the new user login, not root. along with that "right
> click-unmount" on the media icon in GNOME results in nothing. no error,
> no unmounting.

Mmmm, no error message in linux uses to mean the operation was performed 
"ok". Only "errors" are displayed to the user. So after clicking "umount" 
on device icon, check the device status with "mount" command.

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Re: silverlight

[Robin Krahl]

On 07.04.2010 16:26, steef wrote:
> somebody out there knows of an linux_equivalent for MS's siverlight??

Moonlight [1] is a Open Source version of Silverlight, working on Linux.

Regards, Robin

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Re: nvidia legacy driver//kernel 2.6.32 issues

[Stephen Powell]

On Wed, 7 Apr 2010 09:03:37 -0400 (EDT), Ron Johnson wrote:
> On 2010-04-07 04:38, Francesco Pietra wrote:
>> Solved through LinuxQuestions forum. Forget about this thread.
>
> It would have been helpful to post the relevant link...

I doubt that the following link is the one which the OP of this thread
found, but here is a link to the post that I was looking for
originally, and couldn't find.  It was mentioned in passing in a
thread which was primarily about getting the free nv driver to work
with a new motherboard-embedded Nvidia graphics chipset.  The OP
for that thread had his problem solved by an upload from unstable
to testing of a newer version of the nv driver, which recognized
the chipset in his board.  But during the course of the thread,
Sven Joachim chimed in with the instructions for how to build the
missing nvidia kernel module needed by the proprietary nvidia driver.

Here is the link:

   http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2010/03/msg01364.html

I regret that I couldn't find it in time to solve the problem of
the OP of this thread, but I'm only human.  Besides, it didn't hurt
him any to find the solution himself.

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Re: silverlight

[jeremy jozwik]

On Wed, Apr 7, 2010 at 7:47 AM, Robin Krahl  wrote:
> On 07.04.2010 16:26, steef wrote:
>> somebody out there knows of an linux_equivalent for MS's siverlight??
>
> Moonlight [1] is a Open Source version of Silverlight, working on Linux.

dont bother trying to use netflix with it!


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Re: Umont ownership?

[Stephen Powell]

On Wed, 7 Apr 2010 10:30:42 -0400 (EDT), jeremy jozwik wrote:
> # adduser po plugdev
> The user `po' is already a member of `plugdev'.
>
> On Tue, Apr 6, 2010 at 9:36 AM, Stephen Powell  wrote:
>> Oh, wait, did you say that the group file is *empty*! (i.e., a file
>> with zero byte size)!
> 
> so get this. yesterday that file was entirely empty. today...   looks
> just like group-
> maybe thats because i looked at it after the step above?

Don't know.  Could be.  I'm just relieved that you haven't lost your
group information!

> $ umount /dev/sdb1
> umount: /dev/sdb1: not mounted
> umount: /media/video: must be superuser to umount
> umount: /dev/sdb1: not mounted
> umount: /media/video: must be superuser to umount
> 
> that was done under the new user login, not root.
>

For a mount/umount command issued from the shell prompt, I would not
have expected this to work, based on the /etc/fstab file you posted
earlier.  There is no rule for /dev/sb1.

> Along with that "right click-unmount" on the media icon in GNOME
> results in nothing.  no error, no unmounting.

Others are going to have to help with the GNOME part of it.
This is beyond my area of expertise.

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RE: silverlight

[Mike Viau]

Wed, 7 Apr 2010 08:11:21 -0700  On Wed, Apr 7, 2010 at 7:47 AM, Robin Krahl  wrote:
> > On 07.04.2010 16:26, steef wrote:
> >> somebody out there knows of an linux_equivalent for MS's siverlight??
> >
> > Moonlight [1] is a Open Source version of Silverlight, working on Linux.
> 
> dont bother trying to use netflix with it!
> 
> I have noticed it does not load up some silverlight video-casts from other 
> sites as well. You have been warned.  
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Re: Umont ownership?

[jeremy jozwik]

On Wed, Apr 7, 2010 at 7:46 AM, Camaleón  wrote:
> First, check the device perms with "mount" command and put here the
> results.

> Mmmm, no error message in linux uses to mean the operation was performed
> "ok". Only "errors" are displayed to the user. So after clicking "umount"
> on device icon, check the device status with "mount" command.

pot...@mobildebian:~$ mount
/dev/sda1 on / type ext3 (rw,errors=remount-ro)
tmpfs on /lib/init/rw type tmpfs (rw,nosuid,mode=0755)
proc on /proc type proc (rw,noexec,nosuid,nodev)
sysfs on /sys type sysfs (rw,noexec,nosuid,nodev)
procbususb on /proc/bus/usb type usbfs (rw)
udev on /dev type tmpfs (rw,mode=0755)
tmpfs on /dev/shm type tmpfs (rw,nosuid,nodev)
devpts on /dev/pts type devpts (rw,noexec,nosuid,gid=5,mode=620)
/dev/sdb1 on /mnt/video type vfat (rw) < drive trying to unmount

pot...@mobildebian:~$ umount /dev/sdb1
umount: /dev/sdb1: not mounted
umount: /mnt/video: must be superuser to umount
umount: /dev/sdb1: not mounted
umount: /mnt/video: must be superuser to umount

after "right click > unmount"

pot...@mobildebian:~$ mount
/dev/sda1 on / type ext3 (rw,errors=remount-ro)
tmpfs on /lib/init/rw type tmpfs (rw,nosuid,mode=0755)
proc on /proc type proc (rw,noexec,nosuid,nodev)
sysfs on /sys type sysfs (rw,noexec,nosuid,nodev)
procbususb on /proc/bus/usb type usbfs (rw)
udev on /dev type tmpfs (rw,mode=0755)
tmpfs on /dev/shm type tmpfs (rw,nosuid,nodev)
devpts on /dev/pts type devpts (rw,noexec,nosuid,gid=5,mode=620)
/dev/sdb1 on /mnt/video type vfat (rw) < drive still there...


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Re: Umont ownership?

[jeremy jozwik]

pot...@mobildebian:~$ nano /etc/group
plugdev:x:46:po,potest

but!

video:x:44:po
since the device is mounted under "video" is this an issue?

and how would i get my dev/sdb1 to display in /etc/fstab?


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Re: silverlight

[steef]

Michal schreef:

On 07/04/2010 15:26, steef wrote:
   

hi folks!

somebody out there knows of an linux_equivalent for MS's siverlight??

regards,

steef


 

http://lmgtfy.com/?q=linux+silverlight&l=1
   



thanx to both of you.

and, michal, the hammer on the head of the nail..
regards,

s.




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Re: Umont ownership?

[jeremy jozwik]

getting more interesting at every attempt...

step 1.
# mount
/dev/sda1 on / type ext3 (rw,errors=remount-ro)
tmpfs on /lib/init/rw type tmpfs (rw,nosuid,mode=0755)
proc on /proc type proc (rw,noexec,nosuid,nodev)
sysfs on /sys type sysfs (rw,noexec,nosuid,nodev)
procbususb on /proc/bus/usb type usbfs (rw)
udev on /dev type tmpfs (rw,mode=0755)
tmpfs on /dev/shm type tmpfs (rw,nosuid,nodev)
devpts on /dev/pts type devpts (rw,noexec,nosuid,gid=5,mode=620)
/dev/sdb1 on /media/video type vfat
(rw,nosuid,nodev,uhelper=hal,shortname=lower,uid=1000)

step 2.
GNOME right click > unmount. error shows

step 3.
# mount
/dev/sda1 on / type ext3 (rw,errors=remount-ro)
tmpfs on /lib/init/rw type tmpfs (rw,nosuid,mode=0755)
proc on /proc type proc (rw,noexec,nosuid,nodev)
sysfs on /sys type sysfs (rw,noexec,nosuid,nodev)
procbususb on /proc/bus/usb type usbfs (rw)
udev on /dev type tmpfs (rw,mode=0755)
tmpfs on /dev/shm type tmpfs (rw,nosuid,nodev)
devpts on /dev/pts type devpts (rw,noexec,nosuid,gid=5,mode=620)


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Re: Good Use for ClamAV

[Freeman]

On Wed, Apr 07, 2010 at 02:53:01PM +0200, Monsieur Louk wrote:
> 2010/4/7 Jari Fredriksson 
> 

 ,,,

> >
> > And my Linux is a server for my Windows workstation. Without Windows, I
> > would not bother scanning viruses.
> >
> > --
> > http://www.iki.fi/jarif/
> >
> > You learn to write as if to someone else because NEXT YEAR YOU WILL BE
> > "SOMEONE ELSE."
> >
> >
> Windows has (recently?) released Security Essentials which is surprisingly
> good for a free AV. Coulb be worth looking into it. The win version of
> ClamAV is, AFAIK, sadly outdated.

The forum for ClamAV windows did not look like a happy place.

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Re: Spam

[Freeman]

On Wed, Apr 07, 2010 at 07:24:58AM -0500, John Hasler wrote:
> Freeman writes:
> > Has there been an increase of spam on the list over the past few
> > weeks?
> 
> I have observed a general increase in spam.
> 
> > I started filtering the list, which I don't like doing.
> 
> I've been filtering the lists for years.  The listmasters do a good job,
> but their filters can't know my ham as mine can.
> 
> > But no avail.  I assume it passes my filters for the same reason it
> > gets by list filters.
> 
> The latter is mostly a matter of sheer bulk: almost every message that
> hits the Debian servers is spam.  What filters are you using?
> -- 
> 

Good to know the Debian people are talented at that. Hate to think about the
sea of spam though.

I am remembering that my provider uses Spamassassin, but the settings are
light and it has never filtered Debian list addresses that I've seen.

I use Spambouncer on procmail. List spam is getting a spam-score of 0. 
pattern matching is on.  So I might add some more aggressive block-list
services to get that score up.

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How do I get the mbr package to do its job quietly?

[Stephen Powell]

I have been experimenting with the mbr package.  (mbr is a dependency for
the lilo package; so if you have lilo installed you have mbr package installed
too.)  I usually install lilo to the master boot record (boot=/dev/hda
specified in /etc/lilo.conf).  But in certain situations it is advantageous to
install lilo to the boot sector of a primary partition (boot=/dev/hda1) and
install a DOS-like master boot record program in the master boot record,
making the partition containing the lilo boot loader the active partition.

For example, on some of our Dell servers one can bring up a "boot menu" via
the BIOS setup program by pressing F12 during the POST process.  (This is during
POST and before the actual boot process.)  Upon completion of POST, the "BIOS
boot menu" (not to be confused with the boot menu of any boot loader) will
be displayed.  One of the choices in this BIOS boot menu is "Boot to Utility
Partition", or something like that.  This boots a maintenance partition
containing some hardware testing programs supplied by Dell.  This works fine
if the master boot record is a standard DOS/Windows-style master boot record,
but does not work with Linux-style boot loaders, such as grub or lilo.
Of course, I can always add the maintenance partition to the lilo boot
menu, but our non-Linux-proficient technicians aren't used to this.  I
want a Linux box to look just like a Windows box as viewed by a service
technician.

I could use DOS or Windows to install its master boot record program
with "fdisk /mbr" or fixmbr, or whatever, depending on the release of
DOS or Windows, and set the Linux partition active, and that works.  But
Microsoft may claim that this means that our box requires a license
for DOS or Windows.  I'd hate to burn a Windows license just to get its
master boot record installed, when that's all I'm using.  It would seem that
the mbr package in Debian GNU/Linux is just the ticket for this sort of
problem.  I have run the "install-mbr" program, and it works just as
expected.  There is just one little nit left that I would like to take
care of.  lilo advertises itself by printing out "LILO" on the screen
prior to booting the Linux kernel.  That's fine.  I want to see that.
mbr also advertises itself by printing out "MBR" on the screen when it
boots.  So what I see at boot time is something like this:

   MBR

   LILO 22.8 Loading Linux
   BIOS data check successful

and then the Linux kernel boot messages.  That's tolerable, but I'd
like that "MBR" advertisement to be eliminated.  I read the man page
for install-mbr, and I can see how to eliminate the boot prompt,
which I have done, but I couldn't find a way to suppress the MBR
advertisement.  The DOS/Windows mbr program is totally silent, a trick
that I would like to teach this program.  Does anyone know of a way
to accomplish this?  Or is this just something I have to live with?

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Re: Umont ownership?

[Camaleón]

On Wed, 07 Apr 2010 08:41:06 -0700, jeremy jozwik wrote:

> getting more interesting at every attempt...
> 
> step 1.
> # mount

(...)

 /dev/sdb1 on /media/video type vfat
> (rw,nosuid,nodev,uhelper=hal,shortname=lower,uid=1000)

O.k. That seems now reasonable :-)
 
> step 2.
> GNOME right click > unmount. error shows

Yep. I told you that some devices display this message. It happens to me 
*always* with my mobile phone. It does not happen with standard usb flash 
disk, though.

> step 3.
> # mount

(...)

Which means it has been umounted.

I get the same behaviour than you, but only when I attach a special 
device (GNOME recognizes the mobile phone as some kind of music stuff). 

Try this:

1/ Plug on the device
2/ Type mount (to get the device listed)
3/ Type "umount /media/video" (adjust the command to point the right path)
4/ Type "mount"

With these steps I get no pop-up or warning messages and the device gets 
umounted normally.

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Re: silverlight

[Mark Allums]

On 4/7/2010 9:26 AM, steef wrote:

hi folks!

somebody out there knows of an linux_equivalent for MS's siverlight??

regards,

steef




moonlight (part of mono)



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Re: recompiling the kernel with a different version name

[Lorenzo Bettini]

On 04/07/2010 04:26 PM, Stephen Powell wrote:

On Wed, 7 Apr 2010 07:56:46 -0400 (EDT), Lorenzo Bettini wrote:


I've just recompiled the kernel from sources with the command

fakeroot make-kpkg --initrd --append-to-version=-recompiled kernel-image
kernel-headers

and installed it successfully.

However, the kernel name is

2.6.32.10+drm33.1-recompiled

and that "+drm33.1" seems to cause problems to Eclipse which does not
recognize it as a valid version (I think the problem is with the '+'
character).

Is there a way to change the version so that I can do without that '+'?

thanks in advance
Lorenzo


First of all, I don't know if you've already read this, but I recommend
the following web page to all those who need or want to compile a custom
kernel for Debian: http://www.wowway.com/~zlinuxman/Kernel.htm.  It should
tell you all you need to know (and probably a lot more than you wanted to
know).



I tried also with --revision, e.g.,

fakeroot make-kpkg --revision=lore01 --initrd 
--append-to-version=-recompiled kernel-image kernel-headers


but I cannot seem to get rid of that +drm33.1 string:

linux-headers-2.6.32.10+drm33.1-recompiled_2.6.32.10+drm33.1-recompiled-10.00.Custom_i386.deb



My suspicion is that you may have set variables such as CONFIG_LOCALVERSION
and CONFIG_LOCALVERSION_AUTO while configuring the kernel.  Don't do that.
make-kpkg has it's own way of modifying the kernel version.  This is
covered under Step 8 in the next-to-last paragraph.



they do not seem to be set:

$ grep VERSION .config
CONFIG_LOCALVERSION=""
# CONFIG_LOCALVERSION_AUTO is not set


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Re: How do I get the mbr package to do its job quietly?

[Sven Joachim]

On 2010-04-07 18:21 +0200, Stephen Powell wrote:

> I read the man page for install-mbr, and I can see how to eliminate
> the boot prompt, which I have done, but I couldn't find a way to
> suppress the MBR advertisement.  The DOS/Windows mbr program is
> totally silent, a trick that I would like to teach this program.  Does
> anyone know of a way to accomplish this?

I haven't looked at this in detail, but probably you have to patch the
source and rebuild the package.

> Or is this just something I have to live with?

Of course not.  This is free software, after all.

Sven


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Re: recompiling the kernel with a different version name

[Stephen Powell]

On Wed, 7 Apr 2010 13:17:30 -0400 (EDT), Lorenzo Bettini wrote:
> I tried also with --revision, e.g.,
> 
> fakeroot make-kpkg --revision=lore01 --initrd 
> --append-to-version=-recompiled kernel-image kernel-headers
>
> but I cannot seem to get rid of that +drm33.1 string:
> 
> linux-headers-2.6.32.10+drm33.1-recompiled_2.6.32.10+drm33.1-recompiled-10.00.Custom_i386.deb

"10.00.Custom" is the
default value for --revision.  The fact that you see it in the package
file name means that it did not recognize the option.  Try it this way:

   fakeroot make-kpkg clean
   fakeroot make-kpkg --append-to-version -recompiled --revision x.x.xxx \
--initrd kernel_image kernel_headers

Note: you must always issue "make-kpkg clean" after running "make menuconfig"
or after running "make-kpkg" with any target other than "clean".  Otherwise,
version and revision numbers will not work as expected.  Assuming that you
are using official Debian kernel sources, you will want to make the value
for --revision match the "version" of the linux-source-2.6.32 package.
I know the web page I pointed you to is long and boring.  But the answers to
all of your problems are in there.  Where did you get your kernel sources,
by the way?  And why are you compiling a custom kernel in the first place?

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Re: How do I get the mbr package to do its job quietly?

[Stephen Powell]

On Wed, 7 Apr 2010 13:25:37 -0400 (EDT), Sven Joachim wrote:
> On 2010-04-07 18:21 +0200, Stephen Powell wrote:
>> I read the man page for install-mbr, and I can see how to eliminate
>> the boot prompt, which I have done, but I couldn't find a way to
>> suppress the MBR advertisement.  The DOS/Windows mbr program is
>> totally silent, a trick that I would like to teach this program.  Does
>> anyone know of a way to accomplish this?
> 
> I haven't looked at this in detail, but probably you have to patch the
> source and rebuild the package.

That's what I was afraid of.  I was hoping that I had overlooked something
that someone out there knew about.
>>
>> Or is this just something I have to live with?
>
> Of course not.  This is free software, after all.

>From a cost/benefit point of view, it's not worth it to me if I have
to patch the source.  I'll just live with it.

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automate updates in Lenny

[Jozsi Vadkan]

how do you automate the updates in Lenny? [if you're using it as a
"desktop os", and you don't want to give: apt-get update; apt-get
upgrade -y every week..]?

i'm using this:



#!/bin/bash

RANDOMTIME=$(echo $[ ($RANDOM % 60 ) ] )
if ! grep -q "root dpkg --configure -a" /etc/crontab; then echo $RANDOMTIME" * 
* * * root dpkg --configure -a; apt-get upgrade -y  > /dev/null 2>&1; apt-get 
install -y  > /dev/null 2>&1" >> /etc/crontab; fi



+ install "update-manager" package - because it will "apt-get update" in the 
background [in random time - so the mirror servers "won't have loads"]. - at 
least i think is gives out "apt-get update"



any other solutions/tips?


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Re: recompiling the kernel with a different version name

[Celejar]

On Wed, 7 Apr 2010 13:48:18 -0400 (EDT)
Stephen Powell  wrote:

...

> Note: you must always issue "make-kpkg clean" after running "make menuconfig"
> or after running "make-kpkg" with any target other than "clean".  Otherwise,
> version and revision numbers will not work as expected.  Assuming that you

Are you sure that this is currently required?  From the changelog:

kernel-package (12.016) unstable; urgency=low

  * [4df65e7]: Remove obsolete warnings about running make-clean
With the new facility to regenerate ./debian, all the old strictures
about running make clean after anything that might change the version
number have beenmade obsolete, so remove from man page.  
Bug fix: "Is the --append-to-version section still accurate?", thanks
to Frédéric Brière. Short answer: No.  (Closes: #534743).

 -- Manoj Srivastava   Sun, 28 Jun 2009 15:31:12 -0500

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Re: passwordless ssh root logins stopped working after testing dist-upgrade

[Tony Nelson]

On 10-04-06 16:06:14, d.sastre.med...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Tue, Apr 06, 2010 at 03:24:04PM -0400, Tony Nelson wrote:
> > On 10-04-06 14:12:19, Russell L. Carter wrote:
> > > r...@feyerabend> diff -u ssh_config ssh_config.dpkg-dist
> > > --- ssh_config  2010-04-05 21:14:26.172871668 -0700
> > > +++ ssh_config.dpkg-dist2010-01-04 09:05:12.0
> -0700
> > > @@ -17,8 +17,8 @@
> > >   # ssh_config(5) man page.
> > > 
> > >   Host *
> > > -ForwardAgent yes
> > > -ForwardX11 yes
> > > +#   ForwardAgent no
> > > +#   ForwardX11 no
> > >   #   ForwardX11Trusted yes
> > >   #   RhostsRSAAuthentication no
> > >   #   RSAAuthentication yes
> > 
> > I don't see any "PermitRootLogin without-password" line in your
> > diff.
> Hello,
> 
> That would disable password login for root, but does not enable per-
> se pubkey auth (AFAIK).
> 
> man sshd_config explain this: PermitRootLogin, PubkeyAuthentication
> and AuthorizedKeysFile entries.

Oops, yes, sorry.

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Keyboard gets stuck when closing PPP (was: Problems when logging out Gnome)

[Rodolfo Medina]

Rodolfo Medina  writes:

> Lenny installed on my old Pentium III often gets stuck when logging out
> Gnome, either via the panel menu or with `Ctrl-Alt-Backspace'.
>
> Does anyone have any direct experience of the same problem or can suggest
> what the cause may ever be and how to work it out?


The problem is reported here:

 http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=508589

Does anyone know if it has been fixed, and how?  I don't have the possibility
of installing Sid.

Thanks for any help
Rodolfo


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Re: recompiling the kernel with a different version name

[Stephen Powell]

On Wed, 7 Apr 2010 14:54:53 -0400 (EDT), Celejar wrote:
> On Wed, 7 Apr 2010 13:48:18 -0400 (EDT), Stephen Powell wrote:
>>
>> ...
>>
>> Note: you must always issue "make-kpkg clean" after running "make menuconfig"
>> or after running "make-kpkg" with any target other than "clean".  Otherwise,
>> version and revision numbers will not work as expected.  Assuming that you
> 
> Are you sure that this is currently required?  From the changelog:
> 
> kernel-package (12.016) unstable; urgency=low
> 
>   * [4df65e7]: Remove obsolete warnings about running make-clean
> With the new facility to regenerate ./debian, all the old strictures
> about running make clean after anything that might change the version
> number have beenmade obsolete, so remove from man page.  
> Bug fix: "Is the --append-to-version section still accurate?", thanks
> to Frédéric Brière. Short answer: No.  (Closes: #534743).
> 
>  -- Manoj Srivastava   Sun, 28 Jun 2009 15:31:12 -0500

I must confess I did not look at the change log.  But the README file
(/usr/share/doc/kernel-package/README.gz) still documents it as necessary.
As to whether this is out of date or not, I do not know.
But there is one thing I *do* know: the --revision flag he was using was
not taking effect, as evidenced by the name of the package file produced.
And I also know that when I use "make-kpkg clean" before building the kernel
package, I never have any trouble.  Note also that the comment above talks
about changing the version number, not the revision number.  They aren't
the same.

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using wodim

[Germana Oliveira]

Hi!
Recently i start to use wodim by console to writte a CD-RW, my CD-ROM
(internal, writter) persented problems so im using an externar cd-writter
(hp cd.writer 2800 series), but still im having problemas.

i try this:

(root user) wodim -v -eject  -tao speed=0 dev=/dev/scd0 -data
/home/user/image.iso

and im getting this error

wodim: trying to use a high speed medium on low writter

¿? What can i do ¿?

THANKS

Re: automate updates in Lenny

[Ron Johnson]

On 2010-04-07 13:52, Jozsi Vadkan wrote:

how do you automate the updates in Lenny? [if you're using it as a
"desktop os", and you don't want to give: apt-get update; apt-get
upgrade -y every week..]?


That's a foolish thing to do, since blind acceptance can lead to a 
broken system.


Anyway, the cron-apt package does what you want.  It is recommended, 
though, to use it only for downloads.


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Re: using wodim

[Ron Johnson]

On 2010-04-07 14:21, Germana Oliveira wrote:

Hi!
Recently i start to use wodim by console to writte a CD-RW, my CD-ROM 
(internal, writter) persented problems so im using an externar 
cd-writter (hp cd.writer 2800 series), but still im having problemas.


i try this:

(root user) wodim -v -eject  -tao speed=0 dev=/dev/scd0 -data 
/home/user/image.iso


and im getting this error

wodim: trying to use a high speed medium on low writter

¿? What can i do ¿?



Maybe try speed=2 or (dreadfully) speed=1.

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Re: automate updates in Lenny

[Constantine]

On Wednesday 07 April 2010 22:52:34 Jozsi Vadkan wrote:
> how do you automate the updates in Lenny? [if you're using it as a
> "desktop os", and you don't want to give: apt-get update; apt-get
> upgrade -y every week..]?
> 
> i'm using this:
> 
> 
> 
> #!/bin/bash
> 
> RANDOMTIME=$(echo $[ ($RANDOM % 60 ) ] )
> if ! grep -q "root dpkg --configure -a" /etc/crontab; then echo
> $RANDOMTIME" * * * * root dpkg --configure -a; apt-get upgrade -y  >
> /dev/null 2>&1; apt-get install -y  > /dev/null 2>&1" >> /etc/crontab; fi
> 
> 
> 
> + install "update-manager" package - because it will "apt-get update" in
> the background [in random time - so the mirror servers "won't have
> loads"]. - at least i think is gives out "apt-get update"
> 
> 
> 
> any other solutions/tips?

One more vote for cron-apt. It handles such tasks perfectly. Also you can use 
update-manager-gnome/update-notifier to be notified about updates and install 
them.


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Re: using wodim

[Tony van der Hoff]

On 07/04/10 20:21, Germana Oliveira wrote:

Hi!
Recently i start to use wodim by console to writte a CD-RW, my CD-ROM
(internal, writter) persented problems so im using an externar cd-writter
(hp cd.writer 2800 series), but still im having problemas.

i try this:

(root user) wodim -v -eject  -tao speed=0 dev=/dev/scd0 -data
/home/user/image.iso

and im getting this error

wodim: trying to use a high speed medium on low writter

¿? What can i do ¿?

THANKS


Oh, oh. Cue Schilling!

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OT: Script to add line to file if it doesn't exist

[Kent West]

I'm asking you folks, 'cause y'all know this stuff (I've been wrestling 
with this simple task all day).


I've got a text file; I just want a script (a one-liner sed or awk 
command, etc, would be awesome) to check to see if the file contains a 
certain line of text, and if not, to add that line at the bottom of the 
file.


For example, say the file has these four lines in it:

john
mary
fred
martin

I want a script that will read the file and look for the name "fred", 
and if it's found, leave the file alone, but if it's not found, to add 
the name "fred" to the bottom of the file.


Any help appreciated. Thanks!

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Re: OT: Script to add line to file if it doesn't exist

[Mart Frauenlob]

On 07.04.2010 22:10, Kent West wrote:
> I'm asking you folks, 'cause y'all know this stuff (I've been wrestling
> with this simple task all day).
> 
> I've got a text file; I just want a script (a one-liner sed or awk
> command, etc, would be awesome) to check to see if the file contains a
> certain line of text, and if not, to add that line at the bottom of the
> file.
> 
> For example, say the file has these four lines in it:
> 
> john
> mary
> fred
> martin
> 
> I want a script that will read the file and look for the name "fred",
> and if it's found, leave the file alone, but if it's not found, to add
> the name "fred" to the bottom of the file.
> 
> Any help appreciated. Thanks!
> 


#!/bin/sh
grep -w "fred" file || printf "%s\n" "fred" >>file


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Re: recompiling the kernel with a different version name

[Manoj Srivastava]

On Wed, Apr 07 2010, Stephen Powell wrote:

> On Wed, 7 Apr 2010 14:54:53 -0400 (EDT), Celejar wrote:
>> On Wed, 7 Apr 2010 13:48:18 -0400 (EDT), Stephen Powell wrote:
>>>
>>> ...
>>>
>>> Note: you must always issue "make-kpkg clean" after running "make 
>>> menuconfig"
>>> or after running "make-kpkg" with any target other than "clean".  Otherwise,
>>> version and revision numbers will not work as expected.  Assuming that you
>> 
>> Are you sure that this is currently required?  From the changelog:
>> 
>> kernel-package (12.016) unstable; urgency=low
>> 
>>   * [4df65e7]: Remove obsolete warnings about running make-clean
>> With the new facility to regenerate ./debian, all the old strictures
>> about running make clean after anything that might change the version
>> number have beenmade obsolete, so remove from man page.  
>> Bug fix: "Is the --append-to-version section still accurate?", thanks
>> to Frédéric Brière. Short answer: No.  (Closes: #534743).
>> 
>>  -- Manoj Srivastava   Sun, 28 Jun 2009 15:31:12 -0500
>
> I must confess I did not look at the change log.  But the README file
> (/usr/share/doc/kernel-package/README.gz) still documents it as necessary.
> As to whether this is out of date or not, I do not know.
> But there is one thing I *do* know: the --revision flag he was using was
> not taking effect, as evidenced by the name of the package file produced.
> And I also know that when I use "make-kpkg clean" before building the kernel
> package, I never have any trouble.  Note also that the comment above talks
> about changing the version number, not the revision number.  They aren't
> the same.

The README is out of date. I'll try and remember to fix this
 (feel free to file a bug report to remind me). 

I am not sure why the revision flag was not taking effect (I
 have not had time to look into the mails yet), but the +drm3 is coming
 from the kernel code (something is setting .localversions or the ilk).

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RE: Script to add line to file if it doesn't exist

[James Wu]

> I want a script that will read the file and look for the name 
> "fred", and if it's found, leave the file alone, but if it's 
> not found, to add the name "fred" to the bottom of the file.

No need for awk/sed. Something like this should work.

#!/bin/bash
i=`grep fred FILENAME.TXT | wc -l`
if [ $i == "0" ]
then
echo "fred" >> FILENAME.TXT
fi

> 
> Any help appreciated. Thanks!
> 
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Re: OT: Script to add line to file if it doesn't exist

[Kent West]

Mart Frauenlob wrote:

On 07.04.2010 22:10, Kent West wrote:
  

I'm asking you folks, 'cause y'all know this stuff (I've been wrestling
with this simple task all day).

I've got a text file; I just want a script (a one-liner sed or awk
command, etc, would be awesome) to check to see if the file contains a
certain line of text, and if not, to add that line at the bottom of the
file.

For example, say the file has these four lines in it:

john
mary
fred
martin

I want a script that will read the file and look for the name "fred",
and if it's found, leave the file alone, but if it's not found, to add
the name "fred" to the bottom of the file.

Any help appreciated. Thanks!





#!/bin/sh
grep -w "fred" file || printf "%s\n" "fred" >>file


  

Awesome! Thanks!

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Re: OT: Script to add line to file if it doesn't exist

[Ron Johnson]

On 2010-04-07 15:45, Mart Frauenlob wrote:

On 07.04.2010 22:10, Kent West wrote:

I'm asking you folks, 'cause y'all know this stuff (I've been wrestling
with this simple task all day).

I've got a text file; I just want a script (a one-liner sed or awk
command, etc, would be awesome) to check to see if the file contains a
certain line of text, and if not, to add that line at the bottom of the
file.

For example, say the file has these four lines in it:

john
mary
fred
martin

I want a script that will read the file and look for the name "fred",
and if it's found, leave the file alone, but if it's not found, to add
the name "fred" to the bottom of the file.

Any help appreciated. Thanks!




#!/bin/sh
grep -w "fred" file || printf "%s\n" "fred" >>file



Mart's method is the shell way.  The 3GL Way is:

grep -w "$NAME" "$FILE"
TMP=$?
if [ "$TMP" = "1" ];
then
echo -e "$NAME\n" >> "$FILE"
fi


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Re: Keyboard gets stuck when closing PPP (was: Problems when logging out Gnome)

[A. F. Cano]

On Wed, Apr 07, 2010 at 09:07:14PM +0200, Rodolfo Medina wrote:
> Rodolfo Medina  writes:
> 
> > Lenny installed on my old Pentium III often gets stuck when logging out
> > Gnome, either via the panel menu or with `Ctrl-Alt-Backspace'.
> >
> > Does anyone have any direct experience of the same problem or can suggest
> > what the cause may ever be and how to work it out?
> 
> 
> The problem is reported here:
> 
>  http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=508589
> 
> Does anyone know if it has been fixed, and how?  I don't have the possibility
> of installing Sid.

Don't know if it's been fixed.  Most likely not in lenny and the
standard kernels.  I encounter this problem much too often and each time
it requires a hard reboot.  Strangely, the mouse still works so I can
log out of kde, but then the shutdown process hangs until I hit
CTRL-ALT-DEL.  Then it continues, but the laptop doesn't shut down all
the way.  I have to hold the power button for 10 seconds and then it
does shut down.  This is a very low level issue.

I don't use kppp.  This happens with regular pon/poff.  I suspect
it's related to the cdc_acm driver which is the one being used by my
phone (motorola e815) through a usb cable.  It's not 100% repeatable.
I suspect something in the close routine is overwriting part of the
keyboard driver, but only some times.  BTW, this is on a Dell 8600,
with the nvidia-legacy driver.

> Thanks for any help
> Rodolfo

A.


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Re: automate updates in Lenny

[thib]

Yet another solution:
  http://packages.debian.org/lenny/unattended-upgrades

-thib


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Re: OT: Script to add line to file if it doesn't exist

[Eduardo M KALINOWSKI]

On 04/07/2010 05:45 PM, Mart Frauenlob wrote:


#!/bin/sh
grep -w "fred" file || printf "%s\n" "fred">>file

   


Why not simply use
  echo "fred" >> file
for the second command?


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RE: [Samba] how to mount shares as a user without mount.cifs setuid

[James Zuelow]

 

> -Original Message-
> From: samba-boun...@lists.samba.org 
> [mailto:samba-boun...@lists.samba.org] On Behalf Of Udo Müller
> Sent: Wednesday, 07 April, 2010 13:48
> To: sa...@lists.samba.org
> Subject: Re: [Samba] how to mount shares as a user without 
> mount.cifs setuid
> 
> Am 07.04.10 22:44, schrieb Gary Dale:
> > How do I mount an smb/cifs share as a normal user without running
> > mount.cifs? Or if I have to mount the share as root, how can I get
> > reasonable access to the shares?
> 
> Use FUSE.
> 
> Regards Udo

Unfortunately, the suggested fusesmb replacement is an apples to oranges kind 
of thing.

Gary, I heard a rumour that cifs-utils 4.2 is supposed to address this issue, 
but I can't find documentation on the web.  

4.2 hasn't made it into Sid yet (so it will be a bit before Squeeze sees it).

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RE: [Samba] how to mount shares as a user without mount.cifs setuid

[James Zuelow]

> -Original Message-
> From: James Zuelow [mailto:james_zue...@ci.juneau.ak.us] 
> Sent: Wednesday, 07 April, 2010 14:05
> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
> Subject: RE: [Samba] how to mount shares as a user without 
> mount.cifs setuid
> 
>  
> 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: samba-boun...@lists.samba.org 
> > [mailto:samba-boun...@lists.samba.org] On Behalf Of Udo Müller
> > Sent: Wednesday, 07 April, 2010 13:48
> > To: sa...@lists.samba.org
> > Subject: Re: [Samba] how to mount shares as a user without 
> > mount.cifs setuid
> > 
> > Am 07.04.10 22:44, schrieb Gary Dale:
> > > How do I mount an smb/cifs share as a normal user without running
> > > mount.cifs? Or if I have to mount the share as root, how can I get
> > > reasonable access to the shares?
> > 
> > Use FUSE.
> > 
> > Regards Udo
> 
> Unfortunately, the suggested fusesmb replacement is an apples 
> to oranges kind of thing.
> 
> Gary, I heard a rumour that cifs-utils 4.2 is supposed to 
> address this issue, but I can't find documentation on the web.  
> 
> 4.2 hasn't made it into Sid yet (so it will be a bit before 
> Squeeze sees it).
> 

Sorry -- wrong list!

James

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Re: OT: Script to add line to file if it doesn't exist

[Ron Johnson]

On 2010-04-07 16:12, Ron Johnson wrote:
[snip]


Mart's method is the shell way.  The 3GL Way is:

grep -w "$NAME" "$FILE"
TMP=$?
if [ "$TMP" = "1" ];


That should be:

if [ "$TMP" = "0" ];


then
echo -e "$NAME\n" >> "$FILE"
fi





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OT:Script idea/problem

[Thierry Chatelet]

Hi,
Here is my idea:
First, in my village, I 'convert' quiet a few people (about 15 boxes) to use 
Debian. They  are rather happy about it, but I have a problem with update/ 
upgrade: they never know when they should do one. Most of them don't read 
English, so subscribing them to debian security mailing list would not help. 
And most of the time they would not know if the package(s) listed is/are in 
their box. But kmail (and certainly other mail client) can run some script 
according to the sender address. So, if we had a script that can read the 
subject of mail coming from debian security, -- they always have the same 
layout : [SECURITY] [DSA 2029-1] New  packages fix--then 
compare the package incriminated with the packages installed in their box, and 
keep the mail if the package is present, otherwise trash it. I think they will 
be able to see it is a mail from security and that they have to update their 
machine.
So, if someone could help me to put that script together it will be a big 
help. I have done a bit of programming so time ago in Turbo Pascal and in asme 
(old time). 
Thierry


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Making make-kpkg quieter

[Cameron Hutchison]

Is there any way to make make-kpkg (kernel-package 12.033) quieter? When
I run a "make-kpkg clean" it spits out lots of lines about unlinking
files in debian/... On a slow link, this is very annoying (if I forget
to run screen)

I have RTFM but I cannot see anything about making make-kpkg less
verbose (as opposed to the kernel makefiles).


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Re: Spam

[Jari Fredriksson]

On 7.4.2010 19:07, Freeman wrote:
> On Wed, Apr 07, 2010 at 07:24:58AM -0500, John Hasler wrote:
>> Freeman writes:
>>> Has there been an increase of spam on the list over the past few
>>> weeks?
>>
>> I have observed a general increase in spam.
>>
>>> I started filtering the list, which I don't like doing.
>>
>> I've been filtering the lists for years.  The listmasters do a good job,
>> but their filters can't know my ham as mine can.
>>
>>> But no avail.  I assume it passes my filters for the same reason it
>>> gets by list filters.
>>
>> The latter is mostly a matter of sheer bulk: almost every message that
>> hits the Debian servers is spam.  What filters are you using?
>> -- 
>>
> 
> Good to know the Debian people are talented at that. Hate to think about the
> sea of spam though.
> 
> I am remembering that my provider uses Spamassassin, but the settings are
> light and it has never filtered Debian list addresses that I've seen.
> 
> I use Spambouncer on procmail. List spam is getting a spam-score of 0. 
> pattern matching is on.  So I might add some more aggressive block-list
> services to get that score up.
> 

I use SpamAssassin in my email server, and it does not get much spam
points with spam posted to mailing lists. The email headers are mean
much in spam analysing, and when the sender is a Debian or Apache
server, they do not look spammy.

But then, I don't get much spam from mailing lists. I get hundreds of
real spam daily, and a spam or two in a mailing list does not make me
sad. Mailing list maintainers do pretty good job filtering IMHO.

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Re: OT:Script idea/problem

[Ron Johnson]

On 2010-04-07 18:59, Thierry Chatelet wrote:

Hi,
Here is my idea:
First, in my village, I 'convert' quiet a few people (about 15 boxes) to use 
Debian. They  are rather happy about it, but I have a problem with update/ 


Stable or Testing/Unstable?

upgrade: they never know when they should do one. Most of them don't read 
English, so subscribing them to debian security mailing list would not help. 
And most of the time they would not know if the package(s) listed is/are in 
their box. But kmail (and certainly other mail client) can run some script 
according to the sender address. So, if we had a script that can read the 
subject of mail coming from debian security, -- they always have the same 
layout : [SECURITY] [DSA 2029-1] New  packages fix--then 


Realistically, the threat level that *desktop* Debian users are 
exposed to is pretty minimal.


compare the package incriminated with the packages installed in their box, and 
keep the mail if the package is present, otherwise trash it. I think they will 
be able to see it is a mail from security and that they have to update their 
machine.
So, if someone could help me to put that script together it will be a big 
help. I have done a bit of programming so time ago in Turbo Pascal and in asme 
(old time). 


I'd just say, "Do it on a regular basis", where regular is "weekly".

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Re: OT:Script idea/problem

[Thierry Chatelet]

On Thursday 08 April 2010 02:43:22 Ron Johnson wrote:
> On 2010-04-07 18:59, Thierry Chatelet wrote:
> > Hi,
> > Here is my idea:
> > First, in my village, I 'convert' quiet a few people (about 15 boxes) to
> > use Debian. They  are rather happy about it, but I have a problem with
> > update/
> 
> Stable or Testing/Unstable?
> 
> > upgrade: they never know when they should do one. Most of them don't read
> > English, so subscribing them to debian security mailing list would not
> > help. And most of the time they would not know if the package(s) listed
> > is/are in their box. But kmail (and certainly other mail client) can run
> > some script according to the sender address. So, if we had a script that
> > can read the subject of mail coming from debian security, -- they always
> > have the same layout : [SECURITY] [DSA 2029-1] New  packages
> > fix--then
> 
> Realistically, the threat level that *desktop* Debian users are
> exposed to is pretty minimal.
> 
> > compare the package incriminated with the packages installed in their
> > box, and keep the mail if the package is present, otherwise trash it. I
> > think they will be able to see it is a mail from security and that they
> > have to update their machine.
> > So, if someone could help me to put that script together it will be a big
> > help. I have done a bit of programming so time ago in Turbo Pascal and in
> > asme (old time).
> 
> I'd just say, "Do it on a regular basis", where regular is "weekly".
> 

They all but one have a Lenny install. The squeeze one is no problem for me, 
the owner is quiet active in learning gnu-linux, and he is taking care of his 
machine.
Yes, Ron, I told them to do it on a regular time, every other week, but they 
don't do it. So a mail telling them it' s time could help. Well, if it is too 
complicated I will have to still go around every now and then to upgrade their 
box, but it's a pain in .
Thierry


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Re: OT:Script idea/problem

[Ron Johnson]

On 2010-04-07 20:03, Thierry Chatelet wrote:
[snip]


They all but one have a Lenny install. The squeeze one is no problem for me, 
the owner is quiet active in learning gnu-linux, and he is taking care of his 
machine.
Yes, Ron, I told them to do it on a regular time, every other week, but they 
don't do it. So a mail telling them it' s time could help. Well, if it is too 
complicated I will have to still go around every now and then to upgrade their 
box, but it's a pain in .


Have (or do for) them install cron-apt and configure it to update on 
$DOW.  Then have a cron entry on *your* machine email them a nag.


Or... update-notifier or update-manager-gnome might be what they need.

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Re: OT:Script idea/problem

[John Hasler]

Thierry writes:
> Yes, Ron, I told them to do it on a regular time, every other week,
> but they don't do it. So a mail telling them it' s time could
> help. Well, if it is too complicated I will have to still go around
> every now and then to upgrade their box, but it's a pain in .

You might want to install cron-apt and configure it for automatic
updates.
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[OT] Ipod nano5g Debian support

[Julian DeMarchi]

Hey Guys,

Slightly off topic...

Has anyone got an ipod nano5g working in Debian?

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ty

[tom arnall]

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regexp a package with apt?

[Jozsi Vadkan]

Is there a regexp for the:

gstreamer0.10-plugins-bad

package?

I mean like:

apt-get install gstreamer*-plugins-bad

so that later, when it will get a new version number, it would still be
downloadable by a "script" written e.g.: now.

Thank you!


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question concerning dmesg entry

[Robert Cates]

Hi all,

I've got Lenny running, quite fine actually, and I keep up with the 
updates, but I just noticed the following at the very end of my dmesg 
which I've never seen before and I'm hoping somebody can explain to me 
what this means and if I some kind of real problem that I need to fix 
somehow...


[ 7871.624972] eth0: increased tx threshold, txcfg 0xd0f01004.
[809063.448817] TCP: Treason uncloaked! Peer 
::::::d9e3:5e9d:49227/110 shrinks window 
2187015522:2187028277. Repaired.
[809064.297281] TCP: Treason uncloaked! Peer 
::::::d9e3:5e9d:49227/110 shrinks window 
2187015522:2187028277. Repaired.
[809065.908471] TCP: Treason uncloaked! Peer 
::::::d9e3:5e9d:49227/110 shrinks window 
2187015522:2187028277. Repaired.
[809069.275514] TCP: Treason uncloaked! Peer 
::::::d9e3:5e9d:49227/110 shrinks window 
2187015522:2187028277. Repaired.
[809075.965998] TCP: Treason uncloaked! Peer 
::::::d9e3:5e9d:49227/110 shrinks window 
2187015522:2187028277. Repaired.
[809173.745121] TCP: Treason uncloaked! Peer 
::::::d9e3:5e9d:49227/110 shrinks window 
2189278037:2189313933. Repaired.
[809242.029521] TCP: Treason uncloaked! Peer 
::::::d9e3:5e9d:49227/110 shrinks window 
2191234455:2191262455. Repaired.


... then there's several more of these lines but with different numbers 
at the end, and then it ends with ...


[820686.392255] TCP: Treason uncloaked! Peer 
::::::d9e3:5e9d:55806/143 shrinks window 
3902661962:3902684170. Repaired.
[820729.721324] TCP: Treason uncloaked! Peer 
::::::d9e3:5e9d:55806/143 shrinks window 
3908594274:3908598438. Repaired.
[922699.784247] TCP: Treason uncloaked! Peer 
::::::d9e3:6c85:44108/143 shrinks window 
1678948719:1678973703. Repaired.
[922700.612729] TCP: Treason uncloaked! Peer 
::::::d9e3:6c85:44108/143 shrinks window 
1678948719:1678973703. Repaired.
[922702.273498] TCP: Treason uncloaked! Peer 
::::::d9e3:6c85:44108/143 shrinks window 
1678948719:1678973703. Repaired.
[922705.518195] TCP: Treason uncloaked! Peer 
::::::d9e3:6c85:44108/143 shrinks window 
1678948719:1678973703. Repaired.
[922712.420995] TCP: Treason uncloaked! Peer 
::::::d9e3:6c85:44108/143 shrinks window 
1678948719:1678973703. Repaired.


Even though it says "repaired" is there something somewhere that I need 
to "fix", software or hardware?


Thanks much in advance!
Robert


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Re: Making make-kpkg quieter

[Manoj Srivastava]

On Wed, Apr 07 2010, Cameron Hutchison wrote:

> Is there any way to make make-kpkg (kernel-package 12.033) quieter? When
> I run a "make-kpkg clean" it spits out lots of lines about unlinking
> files in debian/... On a slow link, this is very annoying (if I forget
> to run screen)
>
> I have RTFM but I cannot see anything about making make-kpkg less
> verbose (as opposed to the kernel makefiles).

Please file a wishlist bug. I have usually looked for more
 insight into what is happening, and might not have considered the
 desire to only see error  with the level of effort it needs (though I
 think the unlink verbiage comes from the underlying utility, not
 make-kpkg itself)

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