Re: Upgrading to Lenny & 2.6.26: serverworks OSB4 IDE problem

[Tim Day]

On Mon, 2009-02-16 at 08:57 +0530, Raj Kiran Grandhi wrote:
> Alternatively, you can try the UUID= for mounting the
> drive. 

Is there any reason to think the UUID version will work any better than
labels ?  If I have the labels method working fine with 2.6.18, why
would they not work with 2.6.26 ?  

> Another option is to specify the names as sda, sdb, etc.

Currently (2.6.18) I have a hda (the IDE drive) and an sda and sdb for
the 2 SATA drives.  Is there any way to predict where the hda drive will
move to under 2.6.26 ?  (ie should it appear as sda and the two existing
sd* drives will move up to sdb & sdc, or will hda move to sdc ?)

Thanks for any help
Tim



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Re: radeonhd on R5xx based card + dri very slow

[Thomas Preud'homme]

On Monday 16 February 2009 05:53:00 Amit Uttamchandani wrote:
> On Mon, 2 Feb 2009 19:14:36 +0100
> Thomas Preud'homme  wrote:
>
> [snip]
>
> > glxgears
> > 1008 frames in 5.0 seconds = 201.471 FPS
> > 1226 frames in 5.0 seconds = 245.142 FPS
> > 1237 frames in 5.0 seconds = 247.393 FPS
> > 1236 frames in 5.0 seconds = 247.034 FPS
> >
> > If I play a game or a 3D screensaver it's awfully slow as expected.
> >
> > Did I misunderstand something about the configuration ?
> >
> > Why is it so slow ?
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Thomas Preud'homme
>
> Are the xorg and drivers that you installed from experimental? I had to
> install all these packages from experimental in order to get a fully
> functional set up. Also, the mesa packages need to be compatible with
> the driver you are using. This means, the latest 3D drivers usually use
> the latest mesa libraries.

Yes, all of these is installed. I'm sorry in fact because I forgot about this 
thread: I actually found what was the problem. ATI cards need an additional 
option in xorg.conf in the section "Device":

Option  "DRI"

For those who would seek for the same information, I attach my xorg.conf to 
this email. As latest xorg now uses evdev instead of kbd, I attach my working 
evdev config un hal. I don't know if it's a clean configuration but it's a 
working one. By the way, I think there is a bug on xserver-xorg because a 
reconfigure modify the xorg.conf for the keyboard although this does nothing. 
Only modifications in /usr/share/hal/fdi/policy/10osvendor/10-keymap.fdi have 
made xorg recognize my keyboard layout and options.

>
> Also is your graphics card compatible with the 'radeon' driver? I've
> had more success with that.

Yep it is. It's an X1600 Mobility chipset. It now perfectly works with 
transparency on KDE 4 :)

>
> Good luck,

Thank

> Amit

Regards,

Thomas Preud'homme


10-keymap.fdi
Description: XML document

# xorg.conf (X.Org X Window System server configuration file)
#
# This file was generated by dexconf, the Debian X Configuration tool, using
# values from the debconf database.
#
# Edit this file with caution, and see the xorg.conf manual page.
# (Type "man xorg.conf" at the shell prompt.)
#
# This file is automatically updated on xserver-xorg package upgrades *only*
# if it has not been modified since the last upgrade of the xserver-xorg
# package.
#
# If you have edited this file but would like it to be automatically updated
# again, run the following command:
#   sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg

Section "ServerLayout"
Identifier "MBP Layout"
Screen "MBP Screen" 0 0
#   Screen "Iiyama Screen" 0 0
#   InputDevice"MBP Keyboard"
InputDevice"Synaptics Touchpad"
EndSection

Section "Files"
EndSection

Section "Module"
Load  "bitmap"
Load  "ddc"
Load  "dri"
Load  "extmod"
Load  "freetype"
Load  "glx"
Load  "int10"
Load  "vbe"
Load  "synaptics"
EndSection

#Section "InputDevice"
#   Identifier  "MBP Keyboard"
#   Driver  "evdev"
#   Driver  "kbd"
#   Option  "CoreKeyboard"
#   Option  "XkbModel" "evdev"
#   Option  "XkbLayout" "fr"
#   Option  "XkbRules" "xorg"
#   Option  "XkbModel" "macintosh"
#   Option  "XkbModel" "macbook79"
#   Option  "XkbLayout" "fr"
#   Option  "XkbLayout" "mac"
#   Option  "XkbOptions" "lv3:lalt_switch"
#   Option  "XkbOptions" "lv3:alt_switch,altwin:alt_super_win"
#   Option  "XkbOptions""lv3:alt_switch,ctrl:ctrl_ra"
#EndSection

Section "InputDevice"
Identifier  "Synaptics Touchpad"
Driver  "synaptics"
Option  "CorePointer"
Option  "SendCoreEvents" "true"
Option  "Device" "/dev/input/mice"
Option  "Protocol" "auto-dev"
Option  "SHMConfig" "true"
Option  "LeftEdge" "100"
Option  "RightEdge" "1120"
Option  "TopEdge" "50"
Option  "BottomEdge" "310"
Option  "MinSpeed" "0.60"
Option  "MaxSpeed" "1"
Option  "AccelFactor" "0.30"
Option  "FingerHigh" "1"
Option  "FingerLow" "1"
Option  "MaxTapTime" "100"
Option  "MaxTapMove" "100"
Option  "MaxDoubleTapTime" "100"
Option  "FastTaps" "0"
Option  "TapButton1" "1"
Option  "TapButton2" "3"
Option  "TapButton3" "2"
Option  "VertScrollDelta" "25"
Option  "HorizScrollDelta" "80"
Option  "VertEdgeScroll" "0"
Option  "HorizEdgeScroll" "0"
Option  "VertTwoFingerScroll" "1"
Option  "HorizTwoFingerScroll" "1"
EndSection

Section "Monitor"
Identifier   "MacBook Pro LCD"
HorizSync28.0 - 72.0

Re: Upgrading to Lenny & 2.6.26: serverworks OSB4 IDE problem

[Bob Cox]

On Mon, Feb 16, 2009 at 08:40:51 +, Tim Day (tim...@bottlenose.demon.co.uk) 
wrote: 

> On Mon, 2009-02-16 at 08:57 +0530, Raj Kiran Grandhi wrote:
> > Alternatively, you can try the UUID= for mounting the
> > drive. 
> 
> Is there any reason to think the UUID version will work any better than
> labels ?  If I have the labels method working fine with 2.6.18, why
> would they not work with 2.6.26 ?  
> 
> > Another option is to specify the names as sda, sdb, etc.
> 
> Currently (2.6.18) I have a hda (the IDE drive) and an sda and sdb for
> the 2 SATA drives.  Is there any way to predict where the hda drive will
> move to under 2.6.26 ?  (ie should it appear as sda and the two existing
> sd* drives will move up to sdb & sdc, or will hda move to sdc ?)

Your IDE drive should still be hda (or at least hdn rather than sdn)
with 2.6.26.  At least, that is what I see here with IDE drives in two
separate lenny boxen, one of which was an upgrade from etch and one a
clean lenny install several months ago.

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Re: Upgrading to Lenny & 2.6.26: serverworks OSB4 IDE problem

[Lisi Reisz]

On Monday 16 February 2009 08:40:51 Tim Day wrote:
> Currently (2.6.18) I have a hda (the IDE drive) and an sda and sdb for
> the 2 SATA drives.  Is there any way to predict where the hda drive will
> move to under 2.6.26 ?  (ie should it appear as sda and the two existing
> sd* drives will move up to sdb & sdc, or will hda move to sdc ?)

This is the relevant info from my desktop:

~$ uname -a
Linux Tux 2.6.26-1-686 #1 SMP Sat Jan 10 18:29:31 UTC 2009 i686 GNU/Linux

# mount
/dev/hda1 on / type ext3 (rw,errors=remount-ro)
[snip]
/dev/sda1 on /home type ext3 (rw)
/dev/sdb1 on /backup type ext3 (rw)
#

HTH
Lisi


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Re: Upgrading to Lenny & 2.6.26: serverworks OSB4 IDE problem

[Sven Joachim]

On 2009-02-16 10:05 +0100, Bob Cox wrote:

> On Mon, Feb 16, 2009 at 08:40:51 +, Tim Day 
> (tim...@bottlenose.demon.co.uk) wrote: 
>
>> On Mon, 2009-02-16 at 08:57 +0530, Raj Kiran Grandhi wrote:
>> > Alternatively, you can try the UUID= for mounting the
>> > drive. 
>> 
>> Is there any reason to think the UUID version will work any better than
>> labels ?  If I have the labels method working fine with 2.6.18, why
>> would they not work with 2.6.26 ?  

I prefer labels as well, they are more readable than UUIDs.
 
>> > Another option is to specify the names as sda, sdb, etc.
>> 
>> Currently (2.6.18) I have a hda (the IDE drive) and an sda and sdb for
>> the 2 SATA drives.  Is there any way to predict where the hda drive will
>> move to under 2.6.26 ?  (ie should it appear as sda and the two existing
>> sd* drives will move up to sdb & sdc, or will hda move to sdc ?)

I think this is not predictable, but I'm not an expert in this area.

> Your IDE drive should still be hda (or at least hdn rather than sdn)
> with 2.6.26.  At least, that is what I see here with IDE drives in two
> separate lenny boxen, one of which was an upgrade from etch and one a
> clean lenny install several months ago.

Probably the reason is that there is no PATA driver for your
controllers.  AFAIK these are preferred over the old IDE drivers now.

Sven


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Re: Upgrading to Lenny & 2.6.26: serverworks OSB4 IDE problem

[Bob Cox]

On Mon, Feb 16, 2009 at 10:13:52 +0100, Sven Joachim (svenj...@gmx.de) wrote: 

> On 2009-02-16 10:05 +0100, Bob Cox wrote:
> 
> > On Mon, Feb 16, 2009 at 08:40:51 +, Tim Day 
> > (tim...@bottlenose.demon.co.uk) wrote: 
> >
> >> On Mon, 2009-02-16 at 08:57 +0530, Raj Kiran Grandhi wrote:
> >> > Alternatively, you can try the UUID= for mounting the
> >> > drive. 
> >> 
> >> Is there any reason to think the UUID version will work any better than
> >> labels ?  If I have the labels method working fine with 2.6.18, why
> >> would they not work with 2.6.26 ?  
> 
> I prefer labels as well, they are more readable than UUIDs.

I agree.  It's much easier to keep track of things.

b...@trantor:~# blkid
[snip]
/dev/hda3: UUID="4502924a-6390-4733-8ab4-b6f39c9c4bf0" TYPE="ext3" LABEL="root"
/dev/hda5: TYPE="swap" LABEL="swap" UUID="4ea26ed2-6564-4d9d-a76d-3c38d65cc59a"
/dev/hda6: UUID="525361d1-e642-4b09-953e-3822d4c86c22" TYPE="ext3" LABEL="usr" 
SEC_TYPE="ext2"
/dev/hda7: UUID="5d2be57d-b446-499c-b89f-e2a7d91f1e24" TYPE="ext3" LABEL="home" 
SEC_TYPE="ext2"

b...@trantor:~$ grep LABEL /boot/grub/menu.lst
# kopt=root=LABEL=root ro vga=791
kernel  /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.26-1-686 root=LABEL=root ro vga=791

> >> > Another option is to specify the names as sda, sdb, etc.
> >> 
> >> Currently (2.6.18) I have a hda (the IDE drive) and an sda and sdb for
> >> the 2 SATA drives.  Is there any way to predict where the hda drive will
> >> move to under 2.6.26 ?  (ie should it appear as sda and the two existing
> >> sd* drives will move up to sdb & sdc, or will hda move to sdc ?)
> 
> I think this is not predictable, but I'm not an expert in this area.
> 
> > Your IDE drive should still be hda (or at least hdn rather than sdn)
> > with 2.6.26.  At least, that is what I see here with IDE drives in two
> > separate lenny boxen, one of which was an upgrade from etch and one a
> > clean lenny install several months ago.
> 
> Probably the reason is that there is no PATA driver for your
> controllers.  AFAIK these are preferred over the old IDE drivers now.

Ah, thanks for that Sven.  My hardware is quite old ;-)

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Re: ALSA devices: NOT ENABLED IN CONFIG

[Florian Kulzer]

On Mon, Feb 16, 2009 at 05:00:50 +, T o n g wrote:

[...]

> Done as you suggested. Here are the results:
> 
>   # modprobe -r snd_via82xx gameport snd_ac97_codec ac97_bus snd_pcm 
> snd_page_alloc snd_mpu401_uart snd_seq_midi snd_seq_midi_event snd_rawmidi 
> snd_seq snd_timer snd_seq_device snd soundcore
> 
>   # lsmod | grep snd
> 
>   # modprobe -v snd_via82xx snd_pcm snd_seq
>   FATAL: Error inserting snd_via82xx 
> (/lib/modules/2.6.26-grml/kernel/sound/pci/snd-via82xx.ko): Unknown symbol in 
> module, or unknown parameter (see dmesg)
> 
>   # dmesg | tail -1
>   [47924.339972] snd_via82xx: Unknown parameter `snd_pcm'

Ah, yes, my mistake; I forgot that multiple module names only work for
unloading with "modprobe -r" but not for loading modules.

>   # modprobe -v snd_via82xx
>   install /sbin/modprobe --ignore-install snd-via82xx  && { 
> /lib/alsa/modprobe-post-install snd-via82xx ; /sbin/modprobe --quiet snd-seq 
> ; }
>   insmod /lib/modules/2.6.26-grml/kernel/sound/pci/snd-via82xx.ko index=0

Maybe the grml kernel is for some reason not compatible with Debian's
ALSA setup. (Grml is based on Debian, but I don't know which changes its
maintainers introduce to their kernels. They are focused on system
rescue so maybe they don't bother too much about ALSA.) Do you have the
same problem with a stock Debian kernel?

>   # modprobe -v snd_pcm
> 
>   # modprobe -v snd_seq

That means the modules were already loaded together with snd_via82xx. I
do see such additional modules listed when I "modprobe -v" my main sound
module; maybe the "--quiet" in the command above suppresses this output
for you.

>   $ cat /dev/sndstat
>   Sound Driver:3.8.1a-980706 (ALSA v1.0.16 emulation code)
>   Kernel: Linux helios.selfip.org 2.6.26-grml #1 SMP PREEMPT Wed Nov 26 
> 21:41:43 UTC 2008 i686
>   Config options: 0
> 
>   Installed drivers: 
>   Type 10: ALSA emulation
> 
>   Card config: 
>   VIA 8237 with AD1980 at 0xc800, irq 22
> 
>   Audio devices: NOT ENABLED IN CONFIG

... and it is still broken. You already tried to purge and reinstall the
ALSA packages, so I am afraid the next step is to recompile your kernel
with CONFIG_SND_DEBUG enabled and hope that something useful shows up in
the syslog.

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Lenny upgrade Report

[P. Lane]

Successfully upgraded to Lenny from stock Etch with desktop task selection
yesterday. All went well, except (like the other Lenny report) had a problem
with the xserver refusing to start do to an error, and exim4 paniclog being
none empty error, which caused things depending on exim4 to be left in an 
unconfigurable state. It appears that the xserver config was left looking 
for the ati module, nut apperantly it was replaced by the radeon module.
# modprobe radeon
# depmod
# startx 
solved that problem. Appaerently with exim4 you must accept the maintainers 
new config file even if you don't want to. Otherwise it leaves the
DEBCONFsomethingDEBCONF in the config which causes the error whitch cascades
from there. Tried # dpkg-reconfigure exim4-config , to no avail. It could not 
find the debhelper. Had to purge exim4 which left aptitude wanting to install
Xmailer which I did, and then reinstall exim4, which uninstalled Xmailer and
brought up the debconf screen for exim4, and alls well now. 
I followed the release notes and will be submiting my report when I have time.
Just wanted to give a quick run down. Would be nice though if the 
debian-archive-keyring from volitile.debian.org would have been in the 
release notes.

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Re: security (malware) issues in Linux bases OSes

[Dave Sherohman]

On Sun, Feb 15, 2009 at 04:22:37PM -0300, Eduardo M KALINOWSKI wrote:
> But neither of these help in case a stupid user receives an e-mail saying:
> 
> Run 'sudo dpkg -i FreePornPics.deb to see 's
> secret sex tape'.

No, but it still wouldn't get far because, unlike all the major Windows
malware threats, this requires the user to do actual *typing* (eww!
yuck!) instead of just going clicky-clicky or auto-running as soon as
the message is previewed.

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Re: backports keyring

[Florian Kulzer]

On Sun, Feb 15, 2009 at 19:07:23 -0600, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote:
> On Sunday 15 February 2009 18:46:42 Robert Holtzman wrote:
> > Tried "apt-get install debian-backports-keyring" and got the message
> >
> > WARNING: The following packages cannot be authenticated!
> >debian-backports-keyring
> > Install these packages without verification [y/N]?
> > E: Some packages could not be authenticated
> >
> > I terminated at that point. Can anyone tell me what the problem is (yeah,
> > I know, the problem is it can't be authenticated. Now that we have that
> > out of the way.) and if there is a solution?
> 
> All the signatures that are used to verify the all backports.org repositories 
> are generated based on the key in that package, including the files that 
> would 
> authenticate that package.
> 
> It's a chicken<->egg problem.  The backports.org site has alternate 
> instructions involving direct application of gpg/apt-key to get you the 
> correct key before you install any package.

I think the gpg method is preferable, because it allows you to check the
key before you add it to the trusted keyring of apt. The backports
archive key has a signature from Jörg Jaspert; you can confirm the
authenticity of this signature using Jörg's public key in
/usr/share/keyrings/debian-keyring.gpg (part of the debian-keyring
package and therefore authenticated by the normal Debian archive signing
mechanism.)

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Lenny upgrade: Can't mount mdadm RAID drive under kernel 2.6.26

[S D]

Hi,

Just finished "dist-upgrade" to lenny from "etch". It appears that after the 
upgrade the system can no longer assemble and mount mdadm RAID drives under the 
etch kernel 2.6.26. I still can assemle and mount my mdadm RAID drives under 
the kernel 2.6.18 from etch.

Here's some relevant info: 
 
Before the upgrade I had 3 mdadm RAID drives as follows, the system was working 
fine:
/dev/md1 was mounted as /boot(AID1)
/dev/md2 was mounted as /root (RAID5)
/dev/md3 was mounted as /swap (RAID5)

# cat /etc/mdadm/mdadm.conf
ARRAY /dev/md1 level=raid1 num-devices=3 
UUID=bdf8a211:fcf6d2af:d7771298:fac716d3
   devices=/dev/sda1,/dev/sdb1,/dev/sdc1
ARRAY /dev/md2 level=raid5 num-devices=3 
UUID=2ed75bfb:aed804cd:7cc7e04b:e56f1452
   devices=/dev/sda2,/dev/sdb2,/dev/sdc2
ARRAY /dev/md3 level=raid5 num-devices=3 
UUID=3232181c:698319a1:67aa3321:ae8fa7a3
   devices=/dev/sda3,/dev/sdb3,/dev/sdc3
MAILADDR root



The following is what I see on the screen while booting the system under kernel 
2.6.26 before it drop into BusyBox. Note the system appears to be able to 
assemble some mysterious /dev/md0 out of nowhere, when I should've only had 
/dev/md1, /dev/md2, /dev/md3:


Begin: Mounting root file system...
Begin: Running /scripts/local-top...

Success: loaded module raid1
Success: loaded module raid456

Begin: Assembling all MD arrays...
md: md0 stopped
md: bind
md: bind
md: bind
raid5: device sda operational as raid disk 0
raid5: device sdc operational as raid disk 2
raid5: device sdb operational as raid disk 1
raid5: allocated 3170 kB for md0
raid5: raid level 5 set md0 active with 3 out 3 devices
raid5 conf printout:
rd:3 we:3
disk 0, 0:1, dev:sda
disk 1, 0:1, dev:sdb
disk 2, 0:1, dev:sdc
mdadm: /dev/md0 has been started with 3 drives.

md: md1 stopped
mdadm: no devices found for /dev/md1
mdadm: no devices found for /dev/md2
mdadm: no devices found for /dev/md3
Success: assembled all arrays
Begin: running /scripts/local-premount...
kinit: name_to_dev_t(/dev/md3)=md3(9,3)

Read error on swap_device (9:3:0)
mount: mounting /dev/md2 on /root failed: No such device
Begin: Running /scripts/init-bottom...
mount: mounting /dev on /root/dev failed: No such file or directory

BusyBox v1.10.2
(initramfs)



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Re: Lenny upgrade: Can't mount mdadm RAID drive under kernel 2.6.26

[martin f krafft]

also sprach S D  [2009.02.16.1221 +0100]:
> # cat /etc/mdadm/mdadm.conf
> ARRAY /dev/md1 level=raid1 num-devices=3 
> UUID=bdf8a211:fcf6d2af:d7771298:fac716d3
>devices=/dev/sda1,/dev/sdb1,/dev/sdc1
> ARRAY /dev/md2 level=raid5 num-devices=3 
> UUID=2ed75bfb:aed804cd:7cc7e04b:e56f1452
>devices=/dev/sda2,/dev/sdb2,/dev/sdc2
> ARRAY /dev/md3 level=raid5 num-devices=3 
> UUID=3232181c:698319a1:67aa3321:ae8fa7a3
>devices=/dev/sda3,/dev/sdb3,/dev/sdc3
> MAILADDR root

Remove those lines with "devices=" and run update-initramfs -u as
root, then try again.

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Re: Upgrading to Lenny & 2.6.26: serverworks OSB4 IDE problem

[Tim Day]

> Probably the reason is that there is no PATA driver for your
> controllers.  AFAIK these are preferred over the old IDE drivers now.

Well this is what I'm thinking based on the apparent lack of any IDE
goodness in the dmesg log.  If that is the case:
 - any way of getting them back via a custom kernel or kernel command
line prodding ?
 - If I boot an install disk in rescue mode, and that doesn't find
them... well it would pretty much confirm the issue is due to lack of
support for IDE/PATA rather than anything to do with labels/UUIDs etc.
Will try this later.
 - I believe the PCI-X SATA card supports booting (the SATA drives can
be selected for boot in the BIOS anyway, but I haven't actually tried
it) so I suppose I always have the option of migrating the machine
entirely to SATA.

Thanks for the tips
Tim



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Re: Happy lenny, everyone!

[Henri Salo]

On Sun, Feb 15, 2009 at 02:40:37PM -0600, Jordi Gutiérrez Hermoso wrote:
> I know most Debian users think that only testing is suitable for this
> "desktop use", but my family members use stable for all their needs,
> so the lenny release has me very happy that I can now give them an
> upgrade to their experience.
> 
> Happy lenny release, everyone! Almost 22 months since last release,
> and there are many good reasons to be happy with it.
> 
> - Jordi G. H.

There are lots of users who don't think that way. I'm also using stable in
desktop and in servers.

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Re: Lenny upgrade: Can't mount mdadm RAID drive under kernel 2.6.26

[S D]

--- On Mon, 2/16/09, martin f krafft  wrote:

> Remove those lines with "devices=" and run
> update-initramfs -u as
> root, then try again.

Removed lines with "devices=" and ran "update-initramfs -u -t". The "-t" option 
was added because, for some reason, update-initramfs complained that the 
original image was altered and refused to continue.

"-t" option allowed to create a new image (pretty much the same size, the 
difference is about 20 bytes) but the problem with mounting madm drives still 
remains.

When booting into the 2.6.18 kernel the system is still able to assemble and 
mount the drives, even with the "device=" lines removed from the config file.

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Re: Upgrading to Lenny & 2.6.26: serverworks OSB4 IDE problem

[Sven Joachim]

On 2009-02-16 10:57 +0100, Tim Day wrote:

>> Probably the reason is that there is no PATA driver for your
>> controllers.  AFAIK these are preferred over the old IDE drivers now.
>
> Well this is what I'm thinking based on the apparent lack of any IDE
> goodness in the dmesg log.  If that is the case:
>  - any way of getting them back via a custom kernel or kernel command
> line prodding ?

Don't know, maybe you can try to build a custom kernel with
CONFIG_PATA_SERVERWORKS (it is disabled in the Debian kernel) which
seems to be the PATA driver for your IDE controller.

>  - If I boot an install disk in rescue mode, and that doesn't find
> them... well it would pretty much confirm the issue is due to lack of
> support for IDE/PATA rather than anything to do with labels/UUIDs etc.

That seems to be the case here.

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Re: Lenny upgrade: Can't mount mdadm RAID drive under kernel 2.6.26

[martin f krafft]

Please file a bug against mdadm and make sure to include the output
of

  /usr/share/bug/mdadm/script

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Re: Happy lenny, everyone!

[Thierry Chatelet]

On 16 February 2009 10:21:40 Henri Salo wrote:
> On Sun, Feb 15, 2009 at 02:40:37PM -0600, Jordi Gutiérrez Hermoso wrote:
> > I know most Debian users think that only testing is suitable for this
> > "desktop use", but my family members use stable for all their needs,
> > so the lenny release has me very happy that I can now give them an
> > upgrade to their experience.
> >
> > Happy lenny release, everyone! Almost 22 months since last release,
> > and there are many good reasons to be happy with it.
> >
> > - Jordi G. H.
>
> There are lots of users who don't think that way. I'm also using stable in
> desktop and in servers.
>
> ---
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Good, stable is Lenny, now


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Re: request to try something with midori

[Ink Bottle]

(I cat the two mails you sended)
--- On Sat, 2/14/09, Chris Burkhardt  wrote:

> I switched it to
> /usr/lib/swfdec-mozilla/libswfdecmozilla.so and tried
> again -- and that also played the videos fine! Maybe even
> better.
> 
> So let's try to figure out where our systems differ. I
I agree :)

> have the following
> packages installed:
> 
> midori 0.1.2-1
> mozilla-plugin-gnash 0.8.3-6
> swfdec-mozilla 0.6.0-4

apt-cache policy midori mozilla-plugin-gnash swfdec-mozilla flashplayer-mozilla
midori:
  Installed: 0.1.2-1
  Candidate: 0.1.2-1
mozilla-plugin-gnash:
  Installed: 0.8.4-2
  Candidate: 0.8.4-2
  Version table:
swfdec-mozilla:
  Installed: 0.8.2-1
  Candidate: 0.8.2-1
  Version table:
flashplayer-mozilla:
  Installed: (none)
  Candidate: 1:10.0.15.3-0.1

> 
> In your bug report you mention "swfdec-mozilla
> 0.8.2-1" which is only in Sid. If
At the time when I've done the installation of midori
there were no midori package in Lenny !!
(so the sid version is the only available at now)
> you are using that with the Lenny version of midori, that
> might be the cause of
> your segfaults.
> 
> - Chris B
> 
> 
--- On Sat, 2/14/09, Chris Burkhardt  wrote:
> 
> Well nevermind, because you said you were getting the
> segfaults with the
> non-free flash plugin. What version of that do you have
> installed?
Someone said non-free, and maybe I repeated it, but in fact I had
the 
flashplayer-mozilla (see upward)
and it's in main.
(As you can see I remooved it, but only to be sure
it was not it that was used (for tests))

Just to give you more informations:
update-alternatives --config flash-mozilla.so
There are 2 alternatives which provide `flash-mozilla.so'.
  SelectionAlternative
---
 +1/usr/lib/swfdec-mozilla/libswfdecmozilla.so
* 2/usr/lib/gnash/libgnashplugin.so


So for the moment it doesn't seg_fault (with gnash)
It doesn't very well play the google-youtube video neither,
but that's an other problem

The problem, both with swfdec-mozilla and flashplayer-mozilla,
was (repeat) when changing the video or trying to play the "small"
video.
It was appening both with google-youtube or any other
site.

Ink Bottle

> 
> - Chris B
> 



  


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Iceweasel blocking pop-ups

[Dennis Wicks]

Greetings;

I turned off the popup blocker in IW but it seems to still 
be blocking them.


I am on http://www.rhapsody.com/channels trying to play one 
of the music channels.


I tried it on Win XP I'net explorer and it said popups were 
being blocked so I turned off the popup blocker and 
everything worked fine there.


I tried it in Iceweasel 3.0.6-1 and it doesn't work at all, 
even with the popup blocker turned off. No messages or 
anything. It shows the URL when I hold the cursor on the 
icon but nothing changes when I click.


Any ideas?

Many TIA!
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Re: upgrade to lenny report

[Kent West]

Sven Joachim wrote:
> On 2009-02-15 23:59 +0100, Pavlos Parissis wrote:
>
>   
>> This morning I upgraded my etch desktop to lenny.
>> All went ok but with 3 small issues.
>>
>> 1) Exim was refusing to start up due to no zero size on the paniclog file.
>> The file was reporting a configuration error on specific line, but not on 
>> the config
>> file that I use. Removing the lines from the paniclog made the exim4 to be 
>> started
>> again
>> 
>
> How old was that paniclog file?  It may or may not be related to the
> upgrade.
>
>   

I get the same thing:

Mon Feb 16 07:36:27
-
wes...@]goshen]:/home/westk:> sudo ls -lh /var/lib/exim4
[sudo] password for westk:
total 24K
-rw-r--r-- 1 root Debian-exim 23K 2009-02-15 22:24 config.autogenerated


Mon Feb 16 07:36:41
-
wes...@]goshen]:/home/westk:> sudo /etc/init.d/exim4 restart
Stopping MTA for restart: exim4_listener.
Restarting MTA: exim4.
ALERT: exim paniclog /var/log/exim4/paniclog has non-zero size, mail
system possibly broken failed!


Mon Feb 16 07:37:02
-
wes...@]goshen]:/home/westk:> sudo ls -lh /var/lib/exim4
total 24K
-rw-r--r-- 1 root Debian-exim 23K 2009-02-16 07:36 config.autogenerated



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Debian VPN IPSEC interface

[Martin Hilpert]

Hallo,

ich hänge seit tagen an einen problem.

Ich versuche einen VPN verbindung zwischen 2 server zu bekommen, das 
funktioniert soweit auch nur fehlt mir das entsprechende tunnel interface, 
was für unbedingt notwendig ist für Firewall und Routing.

Ich setz immoment Openswan ein.

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Re: Iceweasel blocking pop-ups

[tyler]

Dennis Wicks  writes:

> Greetings;
>
> I turned off the popup blocker in IW but it seems to still be blocking
> them.
>
> I tried it in Iceweasel 3.0.6-1 and it doesn't work at all, even with
> the popup blocker turned off. No messages or anything. It shows the
> URL when I hold the cursor on the icon but nothing changes when I
> click.
>
> Any ideas?
>

Are you running any plugins: noscript, adblock, flashblock etc.?


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Re: Debian VPN IPSEC interface

[Stephan Seitz]

On Mon, Feb 16, 2009 at 02:30:27PM +0100, Martin Hilpert wrote:
Ich versuche einen VPN verbindung zwischen 2 server zu bekommen, das 
funktioniert soweit auch nur fehlt mir das entsprechende tunnel 
interface, was für unbedingt notwendig ist für Firewall und Routing.


Ich setz immoment Openswan ein.


Wenn du nicht deinen eigenen Kernel selber gepatcht hast, dürfte es das 
ipsec-Interface nicht mehr geben, da Openswan die kerneleigenen Treiber 
verwendet. In diesem Fall laufen sowohl der verschlüsselte wie der 
unverschlüsselte Datenverkehr über das gleiche Netzinterface.


Shade and sweet water!

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Re: security (malware) issues in Linux bases OSes

[Paul E Condon]

On 2009-02-15_19:51:11, Tzafrir Cohen wrote:
> On Sun, Feb 15, 2009 at 04:33:53PM -0300, Eduardo M KALINOWSKI wrote:
> > Tzafrir Cohen wrote:
> > > A Debian user should not be expected to install just any .deb file.
> > >   
> > 
> > Ideally speaking, I'd say this holds for any OS: Users should not just
> > install (or click, or run) everything they see.
> > 
> > In practice things happen differently, especially in the Windows world.
> 
> As I have pointed out, there's no real reason for the user interface to
> make that operation too simple. After all, you're not really guaranteed
> that you'll actually be able to install that package, as you may not
> have its dependencies.

This discussion is kind of crazy. I wonder why a producer of malware,
would not make sure that his/her package depended only on packages
that are already available from official Debian repositories. Or,
perhaps, have the initial package patch the user's sources.list to
point to an extra special malware repository. Admittedly, most
malware producers are really incompetant, but there are also producers
of software that automate the production of malware. With these,
really stupid people can produce a piece of malware that is a well
crafted piece of evil.

Debian has already demonstrated initiative in automating package
signing, and, no doubt, other security measures of which I am
unaware. I suspect that the security is pretty good. Early on, there
were powerful organizations that would have benefitted handsomely if
Debian had been disrupted, and it wasn't disrupted. But there is
always the unknown unknown.




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Re: security (malware) issues in Linux bases OSes

[Paul E Condon]

On 2009-02-15_17:26:23, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote:
> On Sunday 15 February 2009 15:48:37 Ron Johnson wrote:
> > [W]hat's to stop Joe Wannabe from doing this?
> >
> >  $ sudo dpkg -i NakedBrittany.deb
> 
> What's to stop Joe Wannabe from doing this?
> sudo rm -rf The Great American Novell / Movie

Joe Wannabe needs to learn more in order to do him self real harm.
Shouldn't it be:

sudo rm -rf "The Great American Novell"

? ;-)
And, without testing it, I'm pretty sure that

sudo rm -rf / 

is trapped and subject to special handling. At least, it should be,
IMHO.

> 
> Neither is an actual security issue.
> 
> > and the
> > other thru a poorly-working (official) Debian patch to ssh. (Or was
> > it SSL?)
> 
> I don't recall this actually causing the Debian servers to be compromised.

I also think don't recall a compromise.

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Re: security (malware) issues in Linux bases OSes

[Dave Sherohman]

On Mon, Feb 16, 2009 at 07:26:38AM -0700, Paul E Condon wrote:
> And, without testing it, I'm pretty sure that
> 
> sudo rm -rf / 
> 
> is trapped and subject to special handling. At least, it should be,
> IMHO.

Only one way to find out whether it is or not...  Try it!  *evil grin*

(Well, OK, you could just look at the source, I suppose, but where's the
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Re: security (malware) issues in Linux bases OSes

[H.S.]

Paul E Condon wrote:
> unaware. I suspect that the security is pretty good. Early on, there
> were powerful organizations that would have benefitted handsomely if
> Debian had been disrupted, and it wasn't disrupted. But there is

Interesting. Care to elaborate a bit?

Thanks.




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Wlan and IBM Thinkpad T41

[Alokat MacMoneysack]

Hey everbody,

I installed Debian Lenny two days ago.

All works fine but I can't use my Wlan card.

Does anyone have an idea or can give me documentation?

I found a couple of installation guides, but there are for Debian 4.0
only.

Thanks for help!

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Re: Debian VPN IPSEC interface

[Martin Hilpert]

first sorry for posting  german in this section.


i know the fact about the openswan and the 2.6 kernel, but i think that 
isn't useful.


is it possible without touching the kernel ( kernel modules are ok) bring 
the ipsec interface back in game ?


is there a better solution then using Openswan ?

i hardly need ipsec because of cisco router 

martin 



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Re: Install Debian GNU/Linux

[Michael Pobega]

On Fri, Feb 06, 2009 at 02:29:06PM +0700, Cahaya Lilin wrote:
> Hello all..
> 
> I want to  know is there Debian linux can install by copy the entire files
> in the hard disk to another hard disk ??
> 
> Because i already install linux in my computer and now i want to install
> linux in another computer but not install it from the cd, it would be good
> if Debian GNU/linux can install in another computer just by copy all of the
> files..
> 
> and is there setting i have to do ??
> 
> Thanx..

Look into debootstrap; it will install Debian into a separate partition,
and you can copy your /home folder over (so you will have the same
configuration). Of course, you'll need to reinstall all of the packages
you've installed in your original Debian system, but I'm sure you
expected that :]

(Note: This isn't a method to clone a Debian system, this is a way to
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Re: security (malware) issues in Linux bases OSes

[Paul E Condon]

On 2009-02-16_09:37:55, H.S. wrote:
> Paul E Condon wrote:
> > unaware. I suspect that the security is pretty good. Early on, there
> > were powerful organizations that would have benefitted handsomely if
> > Debian had been disrupted, and it wasn't disrupted. But there is
> 
> Interesting. Care to elaborate a bit?
> 
> Thanks.

Ronnie spoke of an Evil Empire. I think there is another evil empire.
But there are also evil people who believe that they will be handsomely
rewarded by a powerful corporation if they do something illegal that,
they believe, will benefit the powerful corporation.

I have no special knowledge, just a powerful belief in a dark side to
human nature.

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Re: security (malware) issues in Linux bases OSes

[H.S.]

Paul E Condon wrote:
> On 2009-02-16_09:37:55, H.S. wrote:
>> Paul E Condon wrote:
>>> unaware. I suspect that the security is pretty good. Early on, there
>>> were powerful organizations that would have benefitted handsomely if
>>> Debian had been disrupted, and it wasn't disrupted. But there is
>> Interesting. Care to elaborate a bit?
>>
>> Thanks.
> 
> Ronnie spoke of an Evil Empire. I think there is another evil empire.
> But there are also evil people who believe that they will be handsomely
> rewarded by a powerful corporation if they do something illegal that,
> they believe, will benefit the powerful corporation.
> 
> I have no special knowledge, just a powerful belief in a dark side to
> human nature.
> 

Right.

Regards.

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Wlan and IBM Thinkpad T41 - 2nd

[Alokat MacMoneysack]

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I installed Debian Lenny two days ago.

All works fine but I can't use my Wlan card.

Does anyone have an idea or can give me documentation?

I found a couple of installation guides, but there are for Debian 4.0
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Thanks for help!

Alokat
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Re: upgrade to lenny report

[Pavlos Parissis]

On Mon, 16 Feb 2009 07:39:11 -0600
Kent West  wrote:

> Sven Joachim wrote:
> > On 2009-02-15 23:59 +0100, Pavlos Parissis wrote:
> >
> >   
> >> This morning I upgraded my etch desktop to lenny.
> >> All went ok but with 3 small issues.
> >>
> >> 1) Exim was refusing to start up due to no zero size on the paniclog file.
> >> The file was reporting a configuration error on specific line, but not on 
> >> the
> >> config file that I use. Removing the lines from the paniclog made the 
> >> exim4 to
> >> be started again
> >> 
> >
> > How old was that paniclog file?  It may or may not be related to the
> > upgrade.
> >
> >   
> 
> I get the same thing:

Kent,

Since you have more info than me, could you please file a bug report.

I will file a bug report for the X issue with the missing module package.

Regards,
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Re: ALSA devices: NOT ENABLED IN CONFIG

[T o n g]

On Mon, 16 Feb 2009 10:42:51 +0100, Florian Kulzer wrote:

> Maybe the grml kernel is for some reason not compatible with Debian's
> ALSA setup. . .

Thanks a lot for the analysis Florian. Basing it, I diverted the discussion to 
grml .

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Re: security (malware) issues in Linux bases OSes

[Ron Johnson]

On 02/16/2009 04:30 AM, Dave Sherohman wrote:

On Sun, Feb 15, 2009 at 04:22:37PM -0300, Eduardo M KALINOWSKI wrote:

But neither of these help in case a stupid user receives an e-mail saying:

Run 'sudo dpkg -i FreePornPics.deb to see 's
secret sex tape'.


No, but it still wouldn't get far because, unlike all the major Windows
malware threats, this requires the user to do actual *typing* (eww!
yuck!) instead of just going clicky-clicky or auto-running as soon as
the message is previewed.



You have a point.  However...

Hooking file-roller into gksu and dpkg wouldn't be that hard.

In fact, I wouldn't be surprised if that weren't already the case.

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Re: security (malware) issues in Linux bases OSes

[Ron Johnson]

On 02/16/2009 08:26 AM, Paul E Condon wrote:

On 2009-02-15_17:26:23, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote:

On Sunday 15 February 2009 15:48:37 Ron Johnson wrote:

[W]hat's to stop Joe Wannabe from doing this?

 $ sudo dpkg -i NakedBrittany.deb

What's to stop Joe Wannabe from doing this?
sudo rm -rf The Great American Novell / Movie


Joe Wannabe needs to learn more in order to do him self real harm.
Shouldn't it be:

sudo rm -rf "The Great American Novell"


That's the whole point.  People coming from a gooey environment 
don't think (about such things).



? ;-)
And, without testing it, I'm pretty sure that

sudo rm -rf / 


is trapped and subject to special handling. At least, it should be,
IMHO.


I don't believe it.  Show us!

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Re: security (malware) issues in Linux bases OSes

[Avi Greenbury]

Ron Johnson wrote:


I don't believe it.  Show us!



In the interests of satisfying my curiosity:

vm-linux2:/# rm -rf /
rm: cannot remove root directory `/'
vm-linux2:/#


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Re: security (malware) issues in Linux bases OSes

[Ron Johnson]

On 02/15/2009 11:39 PM, T o n g wrote:

On Sun, 15 Feb 2009 15:48:37 -0600, Ron Johnson wrote:


Anyway, twice in the past few years, Debian servers have been
compromised.  One time it was thru a weak DD user password,


You implication seems to be "Debian is not secure enough",


"Debian" can be made just as insecure as Windows.  Anyway...

No, you are wrong.  I was replying to your inference that package 
signing makes everything ok.



but my conclusion
from above incident is quite the opposite from yours -- Debian is *amazingly*
secure.

If a Windoze PC is taken over by someone or some new malware that no
existing anti-virus software can detect, how soon can a normal Windows user
notice it? how soon can a experienced Windows admin, who is not working on
the box notice it? Make a rough guess and read the aforementioned intrusion
incident in Debian again. I don't know about you, but I was totally amazed
that two Debian admins in two different corners of the world noticed the
sign of intrusion at the first moment!



Sure, admins watching an important server.  But how many of us run 
IDS on our home boxes?  Certainly not I...


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Re: security (malware) issues in Linux bases OSes

[Dave Ewart]

On Monday, 16.02.2009 at 16:37 +, Avi Greenbury wrote:

> Ron Johnson wrote:
>>
>> I don't believe it.  Show us!
>>
>
> In the interests of satisfying my curiosity:
>
> vm-linux2:/# rm -rf /
> rm: cannot remove root directory `/'
> vm-linux2:/#

That's rather annoying.  If I want to shoot myself in the foot, it
should let me.  It's a bug that it doesn't :-)

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Re: Debian VPN IPSEC interface

[Martin]

2009/2/16 Martin Hilpert :
> is there a better solution then using Openswan ?

this answer may not be welcome here, from what I read OpenBSD is quite
nice with handling IPSec...

> i hardly need ipsec because of cisco router 


hardly? Du brauchst das kaum?


I think the OP wanted to say:

"I desperately need..."


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unzip -a strange behavior

[Dennis Wicks]

Greetings;

I regularly use the -a option to unzip to fix DOS/Windows 
line endings and have never had a problem. Until yesterday 
and today!


Today it treated everything as a binary file and all the 
text/ascii files still had ^M at the end of each line. 
Yesterday it treated a pdf file as a text file and it was 
unreadable!


Any ideas as to what is wrong here?

Many TIA!
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mediawiki-extension -- README?

[sparcc]

Hi, 

I'm trying to install extensions using the 'mediawiki-extensions' package.

There does not appear to be a 'README' in the package
http://packages.debian.org/sid/all/mediawiki-extensions/filelist

... and after searching the web... I could just come-up with:
http://linux.derkeiler.com/Mailing-Lists/Debian/2008-04/msg00936.html
Which basically says that... debian has a non-standard way of doing things here.

I've installed extensions in another install (of Mediawiki) independent of the 
debian package.

It is explained here for 'Cite': 
http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Cite/Cite.php

It involved downloading the extension and a couple of commands at the command 
line:

$ tar zvxf Cite-MW1.12-r33026.tar.gz
# cp -r Cite /var/www/wiki/extensions/
# cp ExtensionFunctions.php /var/www/wiki/extensions/

# locate LocalSettings.php
/var/www/wiki/LocalSettings.php

# vi /var/www/wiki/LocalSettings.php
--
# added the following...
require_once('extensions/Cite/Cite.php');
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The Debian package 'mediawiki-extensions' has no README.

Based on '/etc/mediawiki-extensions/extensions.php' it looks like
extensions have to be copied into 
'/etc/mediawiki-extensions/extensions-enabled/'

It looks like one has to do the following...
# cp /etc/mediawiki-extensions/extensions-available/Cite.php 
/etc/mediawiki-extensions/extensions-enabled/

Is there more documentation somewhere?

Thanks,
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Problems with Lenny Installer

[Khristian]

I'm trying to install lenny amd64 here, but the installer doesn't
recognize my hard disk as already partitioned when I choose the manual
partitioning (it simply shows an unpartitioned 250GB disk). I tried
going through the graphical and text installers (both normal and
expert), but nothing changed.
Couldn't find a bug in the debian-installer bug reports page that
looked similar to this, so I'm turning to this list for help. Any
ideas?

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Re: request to try something with midori

[Chris Burkhardt]

Ink Bottle wrote:
>> have the following
>> packages installed:
>>
>> midori 0.1.2-1
>> mozilla-plugin-gnash 0.8.3-6
>> swfdec-mozilla 0.6.0-4
> 
> apt-cache policy midori mozilla-plugin-gnash swfdec-mozilla 
> flashplayer-mozilla
> midori:
>   Installed: 0.1.2-1
>   Candidate: 0.1.2-1
> mozilla-plugin-gnash:
>   Installed: 0.8.4-2
>   Candidate: 0.8.4-2
>   Version table:
> swfdec-mozilla:
>   Installed: 0.8.2-1
>   Candidate: 0.8.2-1
>   Version table:
> flashplayer-mozilla:
>   Installed: (none)
>   Candidate: 1:10.0.15.3-0.1

I've upgraded my mozilla-plugin-gnash. Now we each have identical versions of
all these packages.

>> In your bug report you mention "swfdec-mozilla
>> 0.8.2-1" which is only in Sid. If
> At the time when I've done the installation of midori
> there were no midori package in Lenny !!
> (so the sid version is the only available at now)

Oh you are right! My mistake.

[...]
> So for the moment it doesn't seg_fault (with gnash)
> It doesn't very well play the google-youtube video neither,
> but that's an other problem
> 
> The problem, both with swfdec-mozilla and flashplayer-mozilla,
> was (repeat) when changing the video or trying to play the "small"
> video.
> It was appening both with google-youtube or any other
> site.

I still have no problems whether flash-mozilla.so is configured to point to
gnash or swfdec. I can play the small videos and repeat any video.


Okay, I kept messing around before I sent the above, and I can now reproduce
your segfaults. I had the adobe flash plugin installed (from the Adobe website)
for Firefox, and it seems that even though I set the flash-mozilla alternative
to swfdec/gnash it was still finding that. I moved my ~/.mozilla directory out
of the way, and now I get the segfault with swfdec when I click a small video
from the google page just like you. Gnash doesn't crash -- but it doesn't play
any of the videos either.

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Re: [OT] Friday the 13th

[Jack Schneider]

On Sun, 15 Feb 2009 19:28:45 -0800
Marc Shapiro  wrote:

> Celejar wrote:
> > On Sat, 14 Feb 2009 10:13:15 -0800
> > Marc Shapiro  wrote:
> > 
> >>> On Wed, Feb 11, 2009 at 03:16:49PM +, Avi Greenbury wrote:
>  Marc Shapiro wrote:
> > Jack Schneider wrote:
> >  We are probably the only entities in the universe who spend so
> > much
> >> energy keeping track of the number of times our planet spins.
> >> How bazaar!
> > Or, "how bizarre."  "Bazaar" goes with 'The Cathedral and the."
> >
> > Sorry to nitpick, but I could resist.
> >
>  What's the name of that law that states that any post pointing
>  out someone's mistake will always include a typo of its own?
> >> Avi,
> >>
> >> Are you referring to my mismatched single and double quotes?  Or
> >> is there something else that I am not seeing?
> > 
> > You wrote "could resist" rather than "couldn't resist".
> > 
> Ah!  I missed it when I wrote the post, and again, when you
> commented. We are always our own worst proofreaders.
> 
BIZARRE!

Jack

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Re: security (malware) issues in Linux bases OSes

[David Jardine]

On Mon, Feb 16, 2009 at 04:42:18PM +, Dave Ewart wrote:
> On Monday, 16.02.2009 at 16:37 +, Avi Greenbury wrote:
> 
> > In the interests of satisfying my curiosity:
> >
> > vm-linux2:/# rm -rf /
> > rm: cannot remove root directory `/'
> > vm-linux2:/#
> 
> That's rather annoying.  If I want to shoot myself in the foot, it
> should let me.  It's a bug that it doesn't :-)

Perhaps rm -rf /* would do more or less what you want :)


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Re: security (malware) issues in Linux bases OSes

[H.S.]

Ron Johnson wrote:
> On 02/16/2009 04:30 AM, Dave Sherohman wrote:
>> On Sun, Feb 15, 2009 at 04:22:37PM -0300, Eduardo M KALINOWSKI wrote:
>>> But neither of these help in case a stupid user receives an e-mail
>>> saying:
>>>
>>> Run 'sudo dpkg -i FreePornPics.deb to see 's
>>> secret sex tape'.
>>
>> No, but it still wouldn't get far because, unlike all the major Windows
>> malware threats, this requires the user to do actual *typing* (eww!
>> yuck!) instead of just going clicky-clicky or auto-running as soon as
>> the message is previewed.
>>
> 
> You have a point.  However...
> 
> Hooking file-roller into gksu and dpkg wouldn't be that hard.
> 
> In fact, I wouldn't be surprised if that weren't already the case.
> 

I think Ubuntu does it. You download a deb to your desktop, double click
on it and the GUI leads you through the installation after asking for
the sudo password. So, yes, you need to be an admin for this.

What I haven't seen yet is a deb which does not need even sudo
privileges so that the package is installed in the user's own home
directory. If this were practical, wouldn't be hard to envision a key
logger being installed to record the user's login names and passwords.
Is this something that is feasible?




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lenny on x86

[Attilio Cucchieri]

Hi!

Does anybody nows if lenny installation on x86 machines
using floppy is (or will be) available?
Thanks. Best
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named: network unreachable errors since upgrade

[Ross Boylan]

About 45 minutes after upgrading bind9 and logcheck I started getting
messages like these:
Feb 14 10:28:55 corn named[24777]: too many timeouts resolving
'safebrowsing.clients.google.com/A' (in 'com'?): reducing the advertised
EDNS UDP packet size to 512 octets
Feb 14 10:28:55 corn named[24777]: too many timeouts resolving
'36.106.70.75.in-addr.arpa/PTR' (in '75.in-addr.arpa'?): reducing the
advertised EDNS UDP packet size to 512 octets
Feb 14 10:43:10 corn named[24777]: network unreachable resolving
'3.55.255.193.in-addr.arpa/PTR/IN': 2001:503:ba3e::2:30#53
(Is the thing at the end of the previous line an IPv6 address?).

At least some of the addresses involved look legit:
Feb 14 15:02:17 corn named[3637]: too many timeouts resolving
'mozilla.com/NS' (in 'mozilla.com'?): reducing the advertised EDNS UDP
packet size to 512 octets
Feb 14 15:02:20 corn named[3637]: network unreachable resolving
'ns1.mozilla.org/A/IN': 2001:500:e::1#53

Before the upgrade, the logs had a lot of these:
Feb 11 08:35:14 corn named[23816]: too many timeouts resolving
'141.110.53.159.zen.spamhaus.org/A' (in 'zen.spamhaus.org'?): disabling
EDNS
though logcheck did not report them.

Does anyone know what's going on?  Do the messages indicate any real
problems with my nameserver or networking setup?  Or has bind simply
changed its routine messages, and logcheck patterns are not keeping up? 

I was already running lenny when this happened.

Thanks.
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Re: Wlan and IBM Thinkpad T41 - 2nd

[Celejar]

On Mon, 16 Feb 2009 16:16:40 +0100
Alokat MacMoneysack  wrote:

> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
> Hash: SHA1
> 
> Hey everbody,
>  
> I installed Debian Lenny two days ago.
> 
> All works fine but I can't use my Wlan card.

http://catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html

What kind of card do you have?  What have you tried?  What doesn't
work?

We need the chipset information, for starters (lspci / lsusb).

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Re: security (malware) issues in Linux bases OSes

[Dotan Cohen]

> In the interests of satisfying my curiosity:
>
> vm-linux2:/# rm -rf /

Here I hold my breath!

> rm: cannot remove root directory `/'
> vm-linux2:/#
>

Here I sigh and change my pants. And of course, the ob:
http://xkcd.com/242/

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Re: lenny on x86

[Kelly Clowers]

On Mon, Feb 16, 2009 at 10:55, Attilio Cucchieri  wrote:
>
> Hi!
>
> Does anybody nows if lenny installation on x86 machines
> using floppy is (or will be) available?

I don't think there is such a thing, and I doubt there will be.
The manual makes no mention of floppies:
http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/i386/ch02s04.html.en


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Graphical Installer: swap and partition table modifications

[Zygmunt Konrad Dabek]

My first impressions of the GUInstaller are very favourable as far as I
have gone (up to partitioning) but was unable to select a suitable
install partition without an overview of the machine configuration in
paragraph 3, below.

Any chance of displaying partition labels (as in gnome partition manager
for example) in the graphical installer. It helps guard possible
partition bloomers!!

For historical reasons which are not relevant, I have a machine with 4
disks; 2 IDE (hda hdb)and 2 sata (sda sdb). There is swap space ~1GB on
each of hda, sda and sdb. I have sdb partitioned with 3 primary and an
extended partition with 11 logical volumes formatted with ext3  (SCSI
max. 15 partitions). When I set / (root) as say /sdbx in manual
partitioning mode with any combination (including none) of swap
partitions (whether swap formatting is selected or not), the partitioner
says that hdb sda and sdb partition tables will be modified. What I want
to know is whether swaps by uuid, label  etc. of coexisting linux
distributions will be disturbed by choosing no swap and keeping (K) the
(nascent) ext3 root. It's just so inconvenient to have to chase the
uuids through the multiboot environment. Why would the partition tables
for hdb sda and sdb be changed if their corresponding swaps were not
used?? The only change would be to the sdb partition table to set /sdbx
as / (and maybe a label on /sdbx for convenience) formatting being
unnecessary in this case.

I have not written the partition selections to disk yet as I am
uncertain as to what the outcome will be viz a viz other current useful
coexisting distros.

Uncertainly

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Re: Wlan and IBM Thinkpad T41

[Adrian Levi]

2009/2/17 Alokat MacMoneysack :
> Hey everbody,
>
> I installed Debian Lenny two days ago.
>
> All works fine but I can't use my Wlan card.
>
> Does anyone have an idea or can give me documentation?
>
> I found a couple of installation guides, but there are for Debian 4.0
> only.
>
> Thanks for help!
>
> Alokat

What sort of card is it?
There is documentation installed for every package in /usr/share/doc/*
All the Debian install and other documentation is available from the
Debian homepage.
http://www.debian.org

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Re: Wlan and IBM Thinkpad T41 - 2nd

[Alokat MacMoneysack]

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Celejar wrote:
> On Mon, 16 Feb 2009 16:16:40 +0100
> Alokat MacMoneysack  wrote:
>
>> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
>> Hash: SHA1
>>
>> Hey everbody,
>> 
>> I installed Debian Lenny two days ago.
>>
>> All works fine but I can't use my Wlan card.
>
> http://catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html
>
> What kind of card do you have?  What have you tried?  What doesn't
> work?
>
> We need the chipset information, for starters (lspci / lsusb).
>
> Celejar
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Hey,

I have the:

Intel PRO/Wireless LAN 2100 3B Mini PCI Adapter

here is the URL from thinkwiki.org:
http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/Category:T41

I have tried to install the card with the follow documentation:

http://www.chrm.info/dokus/notebook_install_t41.html

But if I try to activate the module ( modprobe ipw2200 ) debian says
that the file /usr/lib/modules/2.6-686/ipw2200-modules-2.6-686.ko can
not be find.


That's what I get under Debian Etch.

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Re: test for package dependencies without installing

[Paul Yeatman]

->>In response to your message<<-
  --received from Jimmy Johnson--
>
> Paul Yeatman wrote:
> > Hi, I'm wondering if there is a command I can run on a debian package 
> that would test for whether all dependencies of that package are already 
> installed on the system without actually installing the package if so. 
> This mailing list thread 
> http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2006/09/msg00292.html is on the 
> exact topic and many suggestions are thrown out but none of which I can 
> prove true.
> >
<...snip...>
> >
> > Is there a script-friendly way to determine this before attempting to 
> install?  dpkg man page suggests that "--no-act, --dry-run, --simulate" 
> should do this yet
> > $ sudo dpkg -i --no-act texlive-base_2007.dfsg.1-2_all.deb (Reading 
> database ... 138033 files and directories currently installed.)
> > Preparing to replace texlive-base 2007.dfsg.1-2 (using 
> texlive-base_2007.dfsg.1-2_all.deb) ...
> > $ echo $?
> > 0
> >
> > tells me nothing about lacking dependencies.  The point of this is 
> for the purpose of an install script that includes such a package.  If 
> there are dependency issues, I want to point that out right at the 
> beginning of the install.  If there are not, I want to proceed but want 
> to perform the package install later in the game.
> >
> > Thanks!
> 
> 
> 
> Sounds like you may want to use # apt-get -u install, here's an example:
> 
> # apt-get -u install lilo
> Reading Package Lists... Done
> Building Dependency Tree... Done
> The following extra packages will be installed:
> cron debconf exim libident libopenldap-runtime libopenldap1 libpcre2 
> logrotate mailx
> The following packages will be REMOVED:
> debconf-tiny
> The following NEW packages will be installed:
> cron debconf exim libident libopenldap-runtime libopenldap1 libpcre2 
> logrotate mailx
> The following packages will be upgraded
> lilo
> 1 packages upgraded, 9 newly installed, 1 to remove and 31 not upgraded.
> Need to get 225kB/1179kB of archives. After unpacking 2659kB will be used.
> Do you want to continue? [Y/n]

Thanks for the suggestion.  It's not as script-friendly as I'd like but
the real problem is that this is using the package manager.  I want to
perform the test on an arbitrary debian package file that may or may
not be found on the mirrors.

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Re: Problems with Lenny Installer

[Adrian Levi]

2009/2/17 Khristian :
> I'm trying to install lenny amd64 here, but the installer doesn't
> recognize my hard disk as already partitioned when I choose the manual
> partitioning (it simply shows an unpartitioned 250GB disk). I tried
> going through the graphical and text installers (both normal and
> expert), but nothing changed.
> Couldn't find a bug in the debian-installer bug reports page that
> looked similar to this, so I'm turning to this list for help. Any
> ideas?
>
> Thanks,

>From the information you provide I can guess that you have previously
installed linux? and want to reinstall Debian in a pre-existing linux
partition?

What is shown if you boot the install media in rescue mode?

Adrian

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Re: test for package dependencies without installing

[Paul Yeatman]

->>In response to your message<<-
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>
> Paul Yeatman wrote:
> > Hi, I'm wondering if there is a command I can run on a debian package that 
> > would test for whether all dependencies of that package are already 
> > installed on the system without actually installing the package if so.  
> > This mailing list thread 
> > http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2006/09/msg00292.html is on the exact 
> > topic and many suggestions are thrown out but none of which I can prove 
> > true.
> > 
<...snip...>
> > 
> > Is there a script-friendly way to determine this before attempting to 
> > install?  dpkg man page suggests that "--no-act, --dry-run, --simulate" 
> > should do this yet 
> > 
> > $ sudo dpkg -i --no-act texlive-base_2007.dfsg.1-2_all.deb (Reading 
> > database ... 138033 files and directories currently installed.)
> > Preparing to replace texlive-base 2007.dfsg.1-2 (using 
> > texlive-base_2007.dfsg.1-2_all.deb) ...
> > $ echo $?
> > 0
> > 
> > tells me nothing about lacking dependencies.
> 
> There is a note in the man page about putting the --no-act flag before the 
> action:
> 
> $ sudo dpkg --no-act -i texlive-base_2007.dfsg.1-2_all.deb
> 
> Does that make it behave as expected?

I wish but sadly no:

$ sudo dpkg --no-act -i texlive-base_2007.dfsg.1-2_all.deb
Selecting previously deselected package texlive-base.
(Reading database ... 150341 files and directories currently installed.)
Unpacking texlive-base (from texlive-base_2007.dfsg.1-2_all.deb) ...
pyeat...@pyeatman:~$ 

...but I didn't catch that so thanks for pointing out!

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Re: Wlan and IBM Thinkpad T41 - 2nd

[Celejar]

[Please reply to the list and don't cc. me, as per the code of conduct.]

On Mon, 16 Feb 2009 21:30:24 +0100
Alokat MacMoneysack  wrote:

...

> Hey,
> 
> I have the:
> 
> Intel PRO/Wireless LAN 2100 3B Mini PCI Adapter
> 
> here is the URL from thinkwiki.org:
> http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/Category:T41
> 
> I have tried to install the card with the follow documentation:
> 
> http://www.chrm.info/dokus/notebook_install_t41.html
> 
> But if I try to activate the module ( modprobe ipw2200 ) debian says
> that the file /usr/lib/modules/2.6-686/ipw2200-modules-2.6-686.ko can
> not be find.

Are you using a stock kernel, or a self-built one?  'uname -a'?

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Re: test for package dependencies without installing

[Paul Yeatman]

->>In response to your message<<-
  --received from Michael M. Moore--
>
> On Fri, Feb 13, 2009 at 4:18 PM, Paul Yeatman  wrote:
> > Hi, I'm wondering if there is a command I can run on a debian
> > package that would test for whether all dependencies of that package
> > are already installed on the system without actually installing the
> > package if so.  This mailing list thread
> > http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2006/09/msg00292.html is on the
> > exact topic and many suggestions are thrown out but none of which I can
> > prove true.


> 
> You can simply look at the package detail in aptitude's ncurses
> interface and see at a glance which dependencies you already have
> installed (also, which recommends and suggests).
> 
> Michael M.

Thanks for the suggestion.  If you are speaking of the interface when
aptitude is run with no arguments, it's unfortunately not
script-friendly yet the real problem is that this is using the package
manager.  I want to perform the test on an arbitrary debian package
file that may or may not be found on the mirrors.

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Re: Wlan and IBM Thinkpad T41 - 2nd

[Adrian Levi]

2009/2/17 Alokat MacMoneysack :
> I have the:
>
> Intel PRO/Wireless LAN 2100 3B Mini PCI Adapter

You need to install the firmware-ipw2x00 package from non-free.
http://packages.debian.org/search?keywords=firmware-ipw2x00

Adrian

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Re: lenny on x86

[Jochen Schulz]

Kelly Clowers:
> On Mon, Feb 16, 2009 at 10:55, Attilio Cucchieri  wrote:
>> 
>> Does anybody nows if lenny installation on x86 machines
>> using floppy is (or will be) available?
> 
> I don't think there is such a thing, and I doubt there will be.
> The manual makes no mention of floppies:
> http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/i386/ch02s04.html.en

More specifically, the Debian installer's errata mentions that d-i
currently doesn't support floppy installs on i386:

http://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/errata

(The page header mentions rc2 but I am quite sure to have read something
to the same effect about the final version.)

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Re: request to try something with midori

[Ink Bottle]

Thank you very much for your help :)
I found exactly the same results.
So now, though it's not a solution, we have
a very reproducible problem. And even different
cases where it behave the same or not the same.
Since you English is far much better than mine
maybe you could add the last few lines of this post
to the bug report.
(Sometimes I realy feel what I say wont be understood
at all)
Thank you again,

Ink Bottle

--- On Mon, 2/16/09, Chris Burkhardt  wrote:
> I've upgraded my mozilla-plugin-gnash. Now we each have
> identical versions of
> all these packages.
> 
> >> In your bug report you mention
> "swfdec-mozilla
> >> 0.8.2-1" which is only in Sid. If
> > At the time when I've done the installation of
> midori
> > there were no midori package in Lenny !!
> > (so the sid version is the only available at now)
> 
> Oh you are right! My mistake.
> 
> [...]
> > So for the moment it doesn't seg_fault (with
> gnash)
> > It doesn't very well play the google-youtube video
> neither,
> > but that's an other problem
> > 
> > The problem, both with swfdec-mozilla and
> flashplayer-mozilla,
> > was (repeat) when changing the video or trying to play
> the "small"
> > video.
> > It was appening both with google-youtube or any other
> > site.
> 
> I still have no problems whether flash-mozilla.so is
> configured to point to
> gnash or swfdec. I can play the small videos and repeat any
> video.
> 
> 
> Okay, I kept messing around before I sent the above, and I
> can now reproduce
> your segfaults. I had the adobe flash plugin installed
> (from the Adobe website)
> for Firefox, and it seems that even though I set the
> flash-mozilla alternative
> to swfdec/gnash it was still finding that. I moved my
> ~/.mozilla directory out
> of the way, and now I get the segfault with swfdec when I
> click a small video
> from the google page just like you. Gnash doesn't crash
> -- but it doesn't play
> any of the videos either.
> 
> - Chris B
> 
> 



  


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Re: test for package dependencies without installing

[Chris Burkhardt]

Paul Yeatman wrote:
[...]
>> There is a note in the man page about putting the --no-act flag before the 
>> action:
>>
>> $ sudo dpkg --no-act -i texlive-base_2007.dfsg.1-2_all.deb
>>
>> Does that make it behave as expected?
> 
> I wish but sadly no:
> 
> $ sudo dpkg --no-act -i texlive-base_2007.dfsg.1-2_all.deb
> Selecting previously deselected package texlive-base.
> (Reading database ... 150341 files and directories currently installed.)
> Unpacking texlive-base (from texlive-base_2007.dfsg.1-2_all.deb) ...
> pyeat...@pyeatman:~$ 
> 
> ...but I didn't catch that so thanks for pointing out!

Hmm. Take a look at this bug (especially message #19):


I guess a workaround for your script is to parse the 'Depends:' line from
dpkg -I and test if each of those packages are installed.

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Re: test for package dependencies without installing

[Paul Yeatman]

Paul Yeatman writes:
> > $ sudo dpkg -i --no-act texlive-base_2007.dfsg.1-2_all.deb (Reading 
> > database ... 138033 files and directories currently installed.)
> > Preparing to replace texlive-base 2007.dfsg.1-2 (using 
> > texlive-base_2007.dfsg.1-2_all.deb) ...
> > $ echo $?
> > 0
> > 
> > tells me nothing about lacking dependencies.

Apparently, this has been observed and noted for a long time (at least
since 2002) as these 3 merged bugs show.

http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=55364
http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=134475
http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=168499

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Re: test for package dependencies without installing

[Paul Yeatman]

->>In response to your message<<-
  --received from Chris Burkhardt--
>
> Paul Yeatman wrote:
> [...]
> >> There is a note in the man page about putting the --no-act flag before the 
> >> action:
> >>
> >> $ sudo dpkg --no-act -i texlive-base_2007.dfsg.1-2_all.deb
> >>
> >> Does that make it behave as expected?
> > 
> > I wish but sadly no:
> > 
> > $ sudo dpkg --no-act -i texlive-base_2007.dfsg.1-2_all.deb
> > Selecting previously deselected package texlive-base.
> > (Reading database ... 150341 files and directories currently installed.)
> > Unpacking texlive-base (from texlive-base_2007.dfsg.1-2_all.deb) ...
> > pyeat...@pyeatman:~$ 
> > 
> > ...but I didn't catch that so thanks for pointing out!
> 
> Hmm. Take a look at this bug (especially message #19):
> 
> 
> I guess a workaround for your script is to parse the 'Depends:' line from
> dpkg -I and test if each of those packages are installed.
> 
> - Chris B

Yes, I had considered this idea myself but, given that apt-get,
aptitude, dpkg, etc. already perform this action, I wanted to tap into
this and not reinvent the wheel.  This doesn't seem possible at the
time, however.

Thanks again for the feedback and for pointing out the bug!
Paul


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Re: Problems with Lenny Installer

[Khristian]

(re-sending the e-mail to the list as well, I always forget to hit the
'reply to all' button :/ )
Yes, I've installed linux some times before, and what I'm trying to do
is wipe the current ubuntu install I have to make a clean lenny
install (I have /, /home and swap partitions already made).

Inside the installer, I opened another console and fdisk -l /dev/sda shows this:
http://img9.imageshack.us/my.php?image=1602091744aj1.jpg

I've rebooted into the install disc's rescue mode, and it seems to
know that there are already partitions on the disk:
http://img27.imageshack.us/my.php?image=1602091746ok1.jpg

But, when I hit the back button and go on to try the installation, it
still says there's only one unpartitioned disk:
http://img23.imageshack.us/my.php?image=1602091747bg3.jpg

I went some steps after this, to see if the installer was just trying
to select one disk to work on, but is seems it really has no
recollection of the partitions it detected before.

On Mon, Feb 16, 2009 at 5:34 PM, Adrian Levi  wrote:
> 2009/2/17 Khristian :
>> I'm trying to install lenny amd64 here, but the installer doesn't
>> recognize my hard disk as already partitioned when I choose the manual
>> partitioning (it simply shows an unpartitioned 250GB disk). I tried
>> going through the graphical and text installers (both normal and
>> expert), but nothing changed.
>> Couldn't find a bug in the debian-installer bug reports page that
>> looked similar to this, so I'm turning to this list for help. Any
>> ideas?
>>
>> Thanks,
>
> >From the information you provide I can guess that you have previously
> installed linux? and want to reinstall Debian in a pre-existing linux
> partition?
>
> What is shown if you boot the install media in rescue mode?
>
> Adrian
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vino and logging

[H.S.]

Hi,

Does Vino (the remote desktop server) allow logging of events (something
similar to SSH). I have been able to find an vino logs in
/var/log/syslog or /var/log/messages.

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Re: Lenny upgrade: Can't mount mdadm RAID drive under kernel 2.6.26

[S D]

--- On Mon, 2/16/09, martin f krafft  wrote:

> Please file a bug against mdadm and make sure to include the
> output
> of
> 
>   /usr/share/bug/mdadm/script
> 
> as root.
> 

A bug report was sent to sub...@bugs.debian.org. No confirmation that it was 
received yet, so here's a copy, just in case.

Package: mdadm
Version: 2.6.7.2-1

After "dist-upgrade" from etch to lenny the system can no longer assemble and 
mount mdadm RAID drives under the etch kernel 2.6.26. I still can assemble and 
mount mdadm RAID drives under the kernel 2.6.18 that I have left over from etch.

When running the upgraded system under kernel 2.6.18, the output of the 
"/usr/share/bug/mdadm/script" is as follows:

--- mount output
/dev/md2 on / type ext3 (rw,errors=remount-ro)
tmpfs on /lib/init/rw type tmpfs (rw,nosuid,mode=0755)
proc on /proc type proc (rw,noexec,nosuid,nodev)
sysfs on /sys type sysfs (rw,noexec,nosuid,nodev)
udev on /dev type tmpfs (rw,mode=0755)
tmpfs on /dev/shm type tmpfs (rw,nosuid,nodev)
devpts on /dev/pts type devpts (rw,noexec,nosuid,gid=5,mode=620)
/dev/md1 on /boot type ext3 (rw,errors=remount-ro)

--- mdadm.conf
ARRAY /dev/md1 level=raid1 num-devices=3 
UUID=bdf8a211:fcf6d2af:d7771298:fac716d3
ARRAY /dev/md2 level=raid5 num-devices=3 
UUID=2ed75bfb:aed804cd:7cc7e04b:e56f1452
ARRAY /dev/md3 level=raid5 num-devices=3 
UUID=3232181c:698319a1:67aa3321:ae8fa7a3
MAILADDR root

--- /proc/mdstat:
Personalities : [raid0] [raid1] [raid6] [raid5] [raid4] 
md1 : active raid1 sda1[0] sdc1[2] sdb1[1]
  40064 blocks [3/3] [UUU]
  
md2 : active raid5 sda2[0] sdc2[2] sdb2[1]
  486351616 blocks level 5, 64k chunk, algorithm 2 [3/3] [UUU]
  
md3 : active raid5 sda3[0] sdc3[2] sdb3[1]
  1959680 blocks level 5, 64k chunk, algorithm 2 [3/3] [UUU]
  
unused devices: 

--- /proc/partitions:
major minor  #blocks  name

   8 0  244197527 sda
   8 1  40131 sda1
   8 2  243175905 sda2
   8 3 979965 sda3
   816  244198584 sdb
   817  40131 sdb1
   818  243175905 sdb2
   819 979965 sdb3
   832  244198584 sdc
   833  40131 sdc1
   834  243175905 sdc2
   835 979965 sdc3
   9 31959680 md3
   9 2  486351616 md2
   9 1  40064 md1

--- initrd.img-2.6.18-6-686:

gzip: /boot/initrd.img-2.6.18-6-686: not in gzip format
cpio: premature end of archive



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Module-assistant error when installing fglrx ATI proprietary driver. (Debian Sid).

[Carlos Parada]

Hi, I'm trying to install the last ATI proprietary driver which I've
downloaded from AMD webpage. I did a "sh
ati-driver-installer-9-1-x86.x86_64.run --buildpkg Debian/sid" and installed
the resulting DEB packages with dpkg.

Then, I've run "module-assistant prepare" and "module-assistant auto-install
fglrx", without much luck. The last command failed with the following
output:

/usr/bin/make  -f debian/rules clean
make[1]: Entering directory `/usr/src/modules/fglrx'
dh_testroot
rm -f configure-stamp
rm -f fglrx.ko fglrx.mod.c *.o libfglrx_ip.a
rm -f .version .*.o.flags .*.o.d .*.o.cmd .*.ko.cmd
rm -rf .tmp_versions
rm -rf patch
dh_clean
rm -f /usr/src/modules/fglrx/debian/control
rm -f /usr/src/modules/fglrx/debian/dirs
make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/modules/fglrx'
/usr/bin/make  -f debian/rules binary_modules
make[1]: Entering directory `/usr/src/modules/fglrx'
if [ -f /usr/src/modules/fglrx/debian/control.template ]; then \
cat /usr/src/modules/fglrx/debian/control.template >
/usr/src/modules/fglrx/debian/control; \
fi
dh_testdir
touch configure-stamp
dh_testdir
/usr/bin/make -C /lib/modules/2.6.26-1-686/build
SUBDIRS=/usr/src/modules/fglrx modules
make[2]: Entering directory `/usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.26-1-686'
  CC [M]  /usr/src/modules/fglrx/firegl_public.o
/usr/src/modules/fglrx/firegl_public.c: In function
'KCL_MEM_VM_GetRegionPhysAddrStr':
/usr/src/modules/fglrx/firegl_public.c:3223: warning: return makes pointer
from integer without a cast
/usr/src/modules/fglrx/firegl_public.c:3224: warning: return makes pointer
from integer without a cast
/usr/src/modules/fglrx/firegl_public.c:3225: warning: return makes pointer
from integer without a cast
/usr/src/modules/fglrx/firegl_public.c:3227: warning: return makes pointer
from integer without a cast
  CC [M]  /usr/src/modules/fglrx/kcl_acpi.o
  CC [M]  /usr/src/modules/fglrx/kcl_agp.o
  CC [M]  /usr/src/modules/fglrx/kcl_debug.o
  CC [M]  /usr/src/modules/fglrx/kcl_ioctl.o
  CC [M]  /usr/src/modules/fglrx/kcl_io.o
  CC [M]  /usr/src/modules/fglrx/kcl_pci.o
  CC [M]  /usr/src/modules/fglrx/kcl_str.o
  CC [M]  /usr/src/modules/fglrx/kcl_wait.o
  LD [M]  /usr/src/modules/fglrx/fglrx.o
  Building modules, stage 2.
  MODPOST 1 modules
  CC  /usr/src/modules/fglrx/fglrx.mod.o
  LD [M]  /usr/src/modules/fglrx/fglrx.ko
make[2]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.26-1-686'
dh_testdir
dh_testroot
dh_clean -k
rm -f /usr/src/modules/fglrx/debian/control
/usr/src/modules/fglrx/debian/dirs
sed -e 's/#KVERS#/2.6.26-1-686/g' \
-e 's/#VERSION#/1:8-12-4/g' debian/control.template >
/usr/src/modules/fglrx/debian/control
sed -e 's/#KVERS#/2.6.26-1-686/g' debian/dirs.template >
/usr/src/modules/fglrx/debian/dirs
dh_installdirs
dh_install fglrx.ko lib/modules/2.6.26-1-686/misc
dh_testdir
dh_testroot
dh_installdocs
dh_installmodules
dh_installchangelogs
dh_link
dh_strip
dh_compress
dh_fixperms
dh_installdeb
dh_gencontrol -- -v1:8-12-4+2.6.26-13
dh_md5sums
dh_builddeb --destdir=/usr/src
dpkg-deb: building package `fglrx-kernel-2.6.26-1-686' in
`/usr/src/fglrx-kernel-2.6.26-1-686_8-12-4+2.6.26-13_i386.deb'.
make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/modules/fglrx'
Build time: 13 seconds


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RE: Module-assistant error when installing fglrx ATI proprietary driver. (Debian Sid).

[Lalit Dhiri]

> Date: Mon, 16 Feb 2009 22:26:09 +0100> 
Subject: Module-assistant error when installing fglrx ATI proprietary driver. 
(Debian Sid).> From: parla...@gmail.com> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org>> Hi, 
I'm trying to install the last ATI proprietary driver which I've downloaded 
from AMD webpage. I did a "sh ati-driver-installer-9-1-x86.x86_64.run 
--buildpkg Debian/sid" and installed the resulting DEB packages with dpkg.>>> 
Then, I've run "module-assistant prepare" and "module-assistant auto-install 
fglrx", without much luck. The last command failed with the following output:>> 
Can you help me troubleshoot this?>>Hi,unless you really must use 9.1 I'd 
suggest following the wiki for the 8.12 and Lenny 
at:http://wiki.debian.org/ATIProprietaryI have this driver setup and running 
really well with a HD2400.On the other hand if 9.1 is your only option then I 
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RE: Module-assistant error when installing fglrx ATI proprietary driver. (Debian Sid).

[Lalit Dhiri]

__> Date: Mon, 16 Feb 2009 22:26:09 +0100> Subject: 
Module-assistant error when installing fglrx ATI proprietary driver. (Debian 
Sid).> From: parla...@gmail.com> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org>> Hi, I'm 
trying to install the last ATI proprietary driver which I've downloaded from 
AMD webpage. I did a "sh ati-driver-installer-9-1-x86.x86_64.run --buildpkg 
Debian/sid" and installed the resulting DEB packages with dpkg. Can you 
help me troubleshoot this?>>Sorry it appears I was a bit too keen to post and 
missed the Debian Sid. I hope someone can help... and I shall be getting myself 
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setting up vhost for external DNS?

[Zach Uram]

I wish to take over a wiki so I am setting it up on my machine however
it will use the DNS hosted by someone else so they will setup a CNAME
record pointing "wiki.foo.org" to my machine's ip. I have no control
over foo.org.

So how exactly should I set up the name based vhost in apache or
should I use ip based vhost and how would that look? My site hosted on
the VPS is www.jesujuva.org but I don't want that to appear in the
users' browsers, if they enter http://wiki.foo.org it should take them
to the wiki hostesd on my machine.

I was going to us something like this for name-based vhost:

/etc/apache2/sites-available/wiki


 ServerName wiki.foo.org
 ServerAlias wiki.foo.org
 DocumentRoot /var/www/wiki
 ErrorLog /var/log/apache2/error.log
 TransferLog /var/log/apache2/access.log


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Re: security (malware) issues in Linux bases OSes

[Ron Johnson]

On 02/16/2009 12:40 PM, H.S. wrote:

Ron Johnson wrote:

On 02/16/2009 04:30 AM, Dave Sherohman wrote:

On Sun, Feb 15, 2009 at 04:22:37PM -0300, Eduardo M KALINOWSKI wrote:

But neither of these help in case a stupid user receives an e-mail
saying:

Run 'sudo dpkg -i FreePornPics.deb to see 's
secret sex tape'.

No, but it still wouldn't get far because, unlike all the major Windows
malware threats, this requires the user to do actual *typing* (eww!
yuck!) instead of just going clicky-clicky or auto-running as soon as
the message is previewed.


You have a point.  However...

Hooking file-roller into gksu and dpkg wouldn't be that hard.

In fact, I wouldn't be surprised if that weren't already the case.



I think Ubuntu does it.


Why am I *not* surprised?


You download a deb to your desktop, double click
on it and the GUI leads you through the installation after asking for
the sudo password. So, yes, you need to be an admin for this.

>

What I haven't seen yet is a deb which does not need even sudo
privileges so that the package is installed in the user's own home
directory. If this were practical, wouldn't be hard to envision a key
logger being installed to record the user's login names and passwords.
Is this something that is feasible?


Sure.  The keylogger would have to add itself to the "autostart 
folder", but that's no mean feat.


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Re: unzip -a strange behavior

[Ron Johnson]

On 02/16/2009 11:31 AM, Dennis Wicks wrote:

Greetings;

I regularly use the -a option to unzip to fix DOS/Windows line endings 
and have never had a problem. Until yesterday and today!


Today it treated everything as a binary file and all the text/ascii 
files still had ^M at the end of each line. Yesterday it treated a pdf 
file as a text file and it was unreadable!


Any ideas as to what is wrong here?


Unzip version number?

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Re: Wlan and IBM Thinkpad T41 - 2nd

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> On Mon, 16 Feb 2009 21:30:24 +0100 Alokat MacMoneysack
>  wrote:
>
> ...
>
>> Hey,
>>
>> I have the:
>>
>> Intel PRO/Wireless LAN 2100 3B Mini PCI Adapter
>>
>> here is the URL from thinkwiki.org:
>> http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/Category:T41
>>
>> I have tried to install the card with the follow documentation:
>>
>> http://www.chrm.info/dokus/notebook_install_t41.html
>>
>> But if I try to activate the module ( modprobe ipw2200 ) debian
>> says that the file
>> /usr/lib/modules/2.6-686/ipw2200-modules-2.6-686.ko can not be
>> find.
>
> Are you using a stock kernel, or a self-built one?  'uname -a'?
>
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Re: Using automake

[Joris Dobbelsteen]

Laurent Guignard wrote, On 15-02-09 18:58:

Joris Dobbelsteen a écrit :

Hello,

I'm trying to build a application and was trying to use automake with
it. Now I've stumbled upon an issue, see below, I cannot resolve for a
few days. I think it is somewhere(tm) in the manual though.

Can anyone point me to the problem and/or solution?

Thanks,

- Joris

=

The error I get is:

make -k all
make  all-recursive
make[1]: Entering directory
`/home/joris/livecdrecorder-project/liverecorder'
Making all in src
make[2]: Entering directory
`/home/joris/livecdrecorder-project/liverecorder/src'
g++ -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I.. -g -O2 -MT streamprocessor.o -MD -MP
-MF .deps/streamprocessor.Tpo -c -o streamprocessor.o `test -f
'libsp/streamprocessor.cpp' || echo './'`libsp/streamprocessor.cpp
mv -f .deps/streamprocessor.Tpo .deps/streamprocessor.Po
rm -f libsp.a
ar cru libsp.a streamprocessor.o
ranlib libsp.a
make[2]: *** No rule to make target `livecdrecorder.o', needed by
`livecdrecorder'.
make[2]: Target `all' not remade because of errors.
make[2]: Leaving directory
`/home/joris/livecdrecorder-project/liverecorder/src'
make[2]: Entering directory
`/home/joris/livecdrecorder-project/liverecorder'
make[2]: Leaving directory
`/home/joris/livecdrecorder-project/liverecorder'
make[1]: Leaving directory
`/home/joris/livecdrecorder-project/liverecorder'
make[1]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1
make: *** [all] Error 2

===

makefile.am:

SUBDIRS = src
dist_doc_DATA = README




src/makefile.am:

#SUBDIRS = libsp livecdrecorder

bin_PROGRAMS = livecdrecorder
lib_LIBRARIES = libsp.a

livecdrecorder_SOURCE = livecdrecorder/main.c
livecdrecorder_LDADD = libsp

libsp_a_SOURCES = libsp/streamprocessor.cpp
include_HEADERS = libsp/streamprocessor.h


=

configure.ac

AC_INIT([livecdrecorder], [0.1], [myn...@mydomain])
AM_INIT_AUTOMAKE([-Wall -Werror foreign])
AC_PROG_CC
AC_PROG_CXX
AC_PROG_RANLIB
#AC_PROG_LIBTOOL
AC_CONFIG_HEADERS([config.h])
AC_CONFIG_FILES([
Makefile
src/Makefile
])
AC_OUTPUT




Hi Joris,
I think that you need a Makefile in your directory "livecdrecorder" to
build all sources in this directory.
For me projects, i build a Makefile.am in each sub-drirectories of
project and include SUBDIRS directive in parent directory Makefile.am
So after you build the livecdrecorder.o, you will be able to build your
software.
I think it's the same for your libsp/streamprocessor.o
May be i am wrong, or it isn't the good way to get the binary, but in my
projects this is working.


I think you mean that you mean the SUBDIRS directive should be enabled 
again and the respective _SOURCE _LDADD BIN_ LIB_ directives should move 
 to the subdirecties makefile.am?
That was the path I had taken earlier and it was the same (worse 
actually) misery as I'm currently in.


If you don't mind, I would really like to see an example of your 
configure.ac and makefile.am files as reference. The examples in the 
automake manual are just too trivial for my taste. I really don't have 
any clue in how to get this thing to work.


Thanks,

- Joris


Best regards,
Laurent

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Re: Replacement for Dillo web browser

[Chris Burkhardt]

Tzafrir Cohen wrote:
> On Thu, Feb 12, 2009 at 07:25:50PM -0800, Marc Shapiro wrote:
>> Is there a light-weight browser that does not have a huge list of  
>> dependencies?
>>
>> I had been using dillo for things like reading html documentation and  
>> other light-weight tasks, but then I upgraded to Lenny.  Dillo is not  
>> available in Lenny.  It is still in Etch and in Sid, but not Lenny.

I bet the sid dillo package would work fine for you.

links2 does a decent job rendering HTML as text, which is good enough for
documentation and other light-weight tasks.

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Re: security (malware) issues in Linux bases OSes

[H.S.]

Ron Johnson wrote:

> 
> Sure.  The keylogger would have to add itself to the "autostart folder",
> but that's no mean feat.
> 

I am sorry, what is an auto start folder in relation to Debian or Ubuntu?

I would expect it to put a line in .bashrc to start automatically when
user logs in or perhaps put in a crobtab entry for the user.



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Re: upgrade to lenny report

[Kent West]

Pavlos Parissis wrote:
> On Mon, 16 Feb 2009 07:39:11 -0600
> Kent West  wrote:
>
>   
>> Sven Joachim wrote:
>> 
>>> On 2009-02-15 23:59 +0100, Pavlos Parissis wrote:
>>>
>>>   
>>>   
 This morning I upgraded my etch desktop to lenny.
 All went ok but with 3 small issues.

 1) Exim was refusing to start up due to no zero size on the paniclog file.
 The file was reporting a configuration error on specific line, but not on 
 the
 config file that I use. Removing the lines from the paniclog made the 
 exim4 to
 be started again
 
 
>>> How old was that paniclog file?  It may or may not be related to the
>>> upgrade.
>>>
>>>   
>>>   
>> I get the same thing:
>> 
>
> Kent,
>
> Since you have more info than me, could you please file a bug report.
>
> I will file a bug report for the X issue with the missing module package.
>
> Regards,
> Pavlos
>
>
>   
Looks like Tino Keitel has already reported it.


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Re: setting up vhost for external DNS?

[Jochen Schulz]

Zach Uram:
>
> I wish to take over a wiki so I am setting it up on my machine however
> it will use the DNS hosted by someone else so they will setup a CNAME
> record pointing "wiki.foo.org" to my machine's ip. I have no control
> over foo.org.
> 
> So how exactly should I set up the name based vhost in apache or
> should I use ip based vhost and how would that look?

Whether to use IP-based or name-based virtual hosts doesn't matter in
your case. If you have a spare IP address, you can use the former, but
you can always use the latter.

> I was going to us something like this for name-based vhost:
> 
> /etc/apache2/sites-available/wiki
> 
> 
>  ServerName wiki.foo.org
>  ServerAlias wiki.foo.org
>  DocumentRoot /var/www/wiki
>  ErrorLog /var/log/apache2/error.log
>  TransferLog /var/log/apache2/access.log
> 

That looks fine. Just don't forget to set something like
'NameVirtualHost *:80". And your ServerAlias is redundant.

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Re: Replacement for Dillo web browser

[Dotan Cohen]

2009/2/13 Marc Shapiro :
> Is there a light-weight browser that does not have a huge list of
> dependencies?
>

lynx

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Re: security (malware) issues in Linux bases OSes

[Ron Johnson]

On 02/16/2009 03:55 PM, H.S. wrote:

Ron Johnson wrote:


Sure.  The keylogger would have to add itself to the "autostart folder",
but that's no mean feat.



I am sorry, what is an auto start folder in relation to Debian or Ubuntu?


The same people who would install NakedBrittany.deb are the same
ones who log in thru gdm, probably without even a password.



I would expect it to put a line in .bashrc to start automatically when
user logs in or perhaps put in a crobtab entry for the user.


Does .bashrc execute from within gdm, or only when you open a 
terminal window?


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Re: Wlan and IBM Thinkpad T41 - 2nd

[Alokat MacMoneysack]

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Adrian Levi wrote:
> 2009/2/17 Alokat MacMoneysack :
>> I have the:
>>
>> Intel PRO/Wireless LAN 2100 3B Mini PCI Adapter
>
> You need to install the firmware-ipw2x00 package from non-free.
> http://packages.debian.org/search?keywords=firmware-ipw2x00
>
> Adrian
>
Hi,

thanks it works!

Do I have to install a special package  for WPA support? I try to
connect to our WLAN (I think with correct passphrase) but I don't get
any connection.
wpasupplicant is installed.

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Re: Replacement for Dillo web browser

[Ron Johnson]

On 02/16/2009 04:01 PM, Dotan Cohen wrote:

2009/2/13 Marc Shapiro :

Is there a light-weight browser that does not have a huge list of
dependencies?



lynx


Much less capable than links2.

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Re: Replacement for Dillo web browser

[Dotan Cohen]

>> lynx
>
> Much less capable than links2.
>

I see that I'm late to the party! I should have read the whole thread
and seen what was suggested before replying. I personally have never
tried links2, but I will try it soon. Thanks, Ron.

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Lenny upgrade: Failed to load modules "ati" and "typ1" when starting X. No drivers available

[S D]

After dist-upgrade from etch to lenny, I'm trying to run lenny using 2.6.18 
kernel that I have left over from etch, as I'm having issues assembling mdadm 
RAID drives under the new 2.6.28 lenny kernel (For more info see 
http://groups.google.com/group/linux.debian.user/browse_thread/thread/b97fd9b0a450370f#
 )

The problem now is that when I try to start X, it fails complaining that:
(EE) Failed to load module "type1" (module doesn't exist, 0)
(EE) Failed to load module "ait" (module doesn't exist, 0)
(E) No drivers available.

Fatal server error:
no screens found, giving up


Any ideas? Thanks






  


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[OT]: new to squeeze, everything OK

[Thierry Chatelet]

Well, I know, today it should be the same as lenny. BUT "No"!!! 208 updates!! 
All went OK.
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Re: test for package dependencies without installing

[Ink Bottle]

I've found this little script around something
I've heared about recently; it's a command dedicated
to check dependencies.
I don't know it it can be of some use.
It's been hard to make it work (that's the bad part :)  ).

$ export LANG=C; 2>/dev/null apt-cache show $(dpkg-query -l "*"|grep "ii"|cut 
-d' ' -f3) $(dpkg-query -l "tetex-bin"|cut -d' ' -f3)|2>/dev/null edos-debcheck 
-failures tetex-bin; 2>/dev/null apt-cache show $(dpkg-query -l "*"|grep 
"ii"|cut -d' ' -f3) $(dpkg-query -l "tetex-bin"|cut -d' ' -f3)|2>/dev/null 
edos-debcheck -explain tetex-bin
tetex-bin (= 2007.dfsg.1-5): FAILED
tetex-bin (= 2007.dfsg.1-5): FAILED
The following constraints cannot be satisfied:
  tetex-bin (= 2007.dfsg.1-5) depends on texlive (>= 2007-11) {NOT AVAILABLE}

It is supposed to be fast at it (and probably other good properties).
$ apt-cache show $(dpkg-query -l "*"|grep "ii"|cut -d' ' -f3) $(dpkg-query -l 
"tetex-bin"|cut -d' ' -f3)
The already installed packages, plus, the packages I want to install.

If ever could be of some use.
(man edos-debcheck)

Ink Bottle

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> From: Paul Yeatman 
> Subject: Re: test for package dependencies without installing
> To: "Chris Burkhardt" 
> Cc: debian-user@lists.debian.org
> Date: Monday, February 16, 2009, 9:08 PM
> ->>In response to your message<<-
>   --received from Chris Burkhardt--
> >
> > Paul Yeatman wrote:
> > [...]
> > >> There is a note in the man page about putting
> the --no-act flag before the action:
> > >>
> > >> $ sudo dpkg --no-act -i
> texlive-base_2007.dfsg.1-2_all.deb
> > >>
> > >> Does that make it behave as expected?
> > > 
> > > I wish but sadly no:
> > > 
> > > $ sudo dpkg --no-act -i
> texlive-base_2007.dfsg.1-2_all.deb
> > > Selecting previously deselected package
> texlive-base.
> > > (Reading database ... 150341 files and
> directories currently installed.)
> > > Unpacking texlive-base (from
> texlive-base_2007.dfsg.1-2_all.deb) ...
> > > pyeat...@pyeatman:~$ 
> > > 
> > > ...but I didn't catch that so thanks for
> pointing out!
> > 
> > Hmm. Take a look at this bug (especially message #19):
> >
> 
> > 
> > I guess a workaround for your script is to parse the
> 'Depends:' line from
> > dpkg -I and test if each of those packages are
> installed.
> > 
> > - Chris B
> 
> Yes, I had considered this idea myself but, given that
> apt-get,
> aptitude, dpkg, etc. already perform this action, I wanted
> to tap into
> this and not reinvent the wheel.  This doesn't seem
> possible at the
> time, however.
> 
> Thanks again for the feedback and for pointing out the bug!
> Paul
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unzip -a strange behavior

[Dennis Wicks]

Greetings;

I regularly use the -a option to unzip to fix DOS/Windows
line endings and have never had a problem. Until yesterday
and today!

Today it treated everything as a binary file and all the
text/ascii files still had ^M at the end of each line.
Yesterday it treated a pdf file as a text file and it was
unreadable!

Any ideas as to what is wrong here?

Many TIA!
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Re: security (malware) issues in Linux bases OSes

[Dennis Wicks]

Dave Ewart wrote the following on 02/16/2009 10:42 AM:

On Monday, 16.02.2009 at 16:37 +, Avi Greenbury wrote:


Ron Johnson wrote:

I don't believe it.  Show us!


In the interests of satisfying my curiosity:

vm-linux2:/# rm -rf /
rm: cannot remove root directory `/'
vm-linux2:/#


That's rather annoying.  If I want to shoot myself in the foot, it
should let me.  It's a bug that it doesn't :-)

Dave.



Especially since it will happily process /bin !! At least it
used to, and I still have the scars!

Did you try /* ??

I don't have a test system to play with, and advancing age
has caused me to suppress my curiosity about such things. :)

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unzip -a strange behavior

[wix]

Greetings;

I regularly use the -a option in unzip to fix DOS/Windows
line endings and have never had a problem. Until yesterday
and today!

Today it treated everything as a binary file and all the
text/ascii files still had ^M at the end of each line.
Yesterday it treated a pdf file as a text file and it was
unreadable!

Any ideas as to what is wrong here?

Many TIA!
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Re: security (malware) issues in Linux bases OSes

[Paul E Condon]

On 2009-02-16_10:29:02, Ron Johnson wrote:
> On 02/16/2009 08:26 AM, Paul E Condon wrote:
>> On 2009-02-15_17:26:23, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote:
>>> On Sunday 15 February 2009 15:48:37 Ron Johnson wrote:
 [W]hat's to stop Joe Wannabe from doing this?

  $ sudo dpkg -i NakedBrittany.deb
>>> What's to stop Joe Wannabe from doing this?
>>> sudo rm -rf The Great American Novell / Movie
>>
>> Joe Wannabe needs to learn more in order to do him self real harm.
>> Shouldn't it be:
>>
>> sudo rm -rf "The Great American Novell"
>
> That's the whole point.  People coming from a gooey environment don't 
> think (about such things).
>
>> ? ;-)
>> And, without testing it, I'm pretty sure that
>>
>> sudo rm -rf / 
>>
>> is trapped and subject to special handling. At least, it should be,
>> IMHO.
>
> I don't believe it.  Show us!

Ron, why don't you try to command and see for yourself? Its easy
enough to do it.  I just don't have the time. Cough. Cough.

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Re: Wlan and IBM Thinkpad T41 - 2nd

[Celejar]

[Once again, please reply to the list and don't cc. me, as per the list
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On Mon, 16 Feb 2009 21:44:36 +0100
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> > conduct.]
> >
> > On Mon, 16 Feb 2009 21:30:24 +0100 Alokat MacMoneysack
> >  wrote:
> >
> > ...
> >
> >> Hey,
> >>
> >> I have the:
> >>
> >> Intel PRO/Wireless LAN 2100 3B Mini PCI Adapter
> >>
> >> here is the URL from thinkwiki.org:
> >> http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/Category:T41
> >>
> >> I have tried to install the card with the follow documentation:
> >>
> >> http://www.chrm.info/dokus/notebook_install_t41.html
> >>
> >> But if I try to activate the module ( modprobe ipw2200 ) debian
> >> says that the file
> >> /usr/lib/modules/2.6-686/ipw2200-modules-2.6-686.ko can not be
> >> find.
> >
> > Are you using a stock kernel, or a self-built one?  'uname -a'?

...

> uname -a:
> 
> Linux Horus 2.6.26-1-686 #1 SMP Sat Jan 10 18:29:31 UTC 2009 i686
> GNU/Linux

I assume that that's a stock kernel.  What does
'/usr/lib/modules/2.6-686/' contain?  You seem to be missing the
module; I have no idea why.

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Re: security (malware) issues in Linux bases OSes

[Ron Johnson]

On 02/16/2009 06:11 PM, Paul E Condon wrote:

On 2009-02-16_10:29:02, Ron Johnson wrote:

On 02/16/2009 08:26 AM, Paul E Condon wrote:

On 2009-02-15_17:26:23, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote:

On Sunday 15 February 2009 15:48:37 Ron Johnson wrote:

[W]hat's to stop Joe Wannabe from doing this?

 $ sudo dpkg -i NakedBrittany.deb

What's to stop Joe Wannabe from doing this?
sudo rm -rf The Great American Novell / Movie

Joe Wannabe needs to learn more in order to do him self real harm.
Shouldn't it be:

sudo rm -rf "The Great American Novell"
That's the whole point.  People coming from a gooey environment don't 
think (about such things).



? ;-)
And, without testing it, I'm pretty sure that

sudo rm -rf / 


is trapped and subject to special handling. At least, it should be,
IMHO.

I don't believe it.  Show us!


Ron, why don't you try to command and see for yourself? Its easy
enough to do it.  I just don't have the time. Cough. Cough.


Boyd(?) asserted the statement, Boyd gets to try it out...


And to any newbies reading this. Please let Ron do the testing.




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Re: unzip -a strange behavior

[Dennis Wicks]

dgwicks:~# unzip -v
UnZip 5.52 of 28 February 2005,
by Debian. Original by Info-ZIP.

It doesn't look like it has changed in the past five years, 
which makes me think it might be something else that unzip 
interacts with. But I have no idea what it might be.



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Re: security (malware) issues in Linux bases OSes

[Dotan Cohen]

 sudo rm -rf /
 is trapped and subject to special handling. At least, it should be,
 IMHO.
>>>
>>> I don't believe it.  Show us!
>>
>> Ron, why don't you try to command and see for yourself? Its easy
>> enough to do it.  I just don't have the time. Cough. Cough.
>
> Boyd(?) asserted the statement, Boyd gets to try it out...
>

I just tried it, and everything seems just fi[NO CARRIER]


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