Re: Wildly OT: Re: apt-get joke

[Raquel]

On Tue, 27 May 2008 08:25:31 -0700
Andrew Sackville-West <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> On Tue, May 27, 2008 at 10:19:14AM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote:
> > On 05/27/08 10:04, Andrew Sackville-West wrote:
> > > On Tue, May 27, 2008 at 06:36:21AM +0200, s. keeling wrote:
> > >> i'll teach you to turn away. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> > >>>  Andrew Sackville-West <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >>>  ASW> [-- text/plain, encoding quoted-printable, charset:
> > >>>  ASW> us-ascii, 21 lines --]
> > >   well, the newer versions may be flasher, but they're
> > > definitely less stable. at the end of the day, i'd rather
> > > have a lover who's been tested by the masses (& came out
> > > bug-free!) - & then installed on my machine alone - than
> > > the newest version which may segfault on me at any time...
> > >>>  ASW> hmmm... not sure about the "tested by the masses" part,
> > >>>  ASW> though ending up bug-free is definitely good. Maybe
> > >>>  ASW> adequately tested is better? 
> > >>>
> > >>> granted, but i didn't want my boyfriend to read this
> > >>> & feel bad for being a giant slut before we got together. :D
> > >> High praise.  This is the funniest post/thread I've read on
> > >> this list, ever.
> > >>
> > >> [Ron, what happens if crank is female?]
> > > 
> > > Ooh! I know the answer to this one! We all crowd around her,
> > > sort of giggling. A variety of questions get asked ultimately
> > > focusing on how it must be weird to be the only woman around
> > > here. How it must have helped her to be female in the  > > tech oriented degree> department. Then when she's had enough
> > > scrutiny, she wanders away and we're all left wondering what
> > > happened. lather rinse repeat. ;-P
> > 
> > Actually, there are 2, maybe three other semi-active women on the
> > list.  The reason is obvious: math is hard, computers are icky.
> 
> yeah I know. But IMO it's that boys like computers and boys are
> icky. Therefore computers are icky. 
> 
> A
> 

Give that boy a gold star!!

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Re: Monitor CPU temperature in a Supermicro X6DH8-XG2

[Santi Saez]

El 21/05/2008, a las 21:56, Hugo Vanwoerkom escribió:


Florian Kulzer wrote:

On Wed, May 21, 2008 at 13:45:19 +0200, Santi Saez wrote:

Dear Srs,

I need to get the CPU temperature in a Supermicro X6DH8-XG2  
motherboard, this is the link for key features:


http://www.supermicro.com/products/motherboard/Xeon800/E7520/ 
X6DH8- XG2.cfm

[...]

# modprobe -l | grep lm93
# modprobe lm93
FATAL: Module lm93 not found.
Are you using Etch? The 2.6.18 kernel does not have this module. I  
think

you need at least 2.6.23.


http://www.lm-sensors.org/wiki/Devices

says you need 2.6.20


Thanks all for your replys :-)

I upgrade to Linux 2.6.25.4 and lm-sensors 3.0.2-1 and now I can get  
values from LM93 chip, example output:


===
# sensors
lm93-i2c-0-2e
Adapter: SMBus I801 adapter at 1100
in1: +0.94 V  (min =  +0.83 V, max =  +1.02 V)
in2: +0.94 V  (min =  +0.83 V, max =  +1.02 V)
in3: +0.94 V  (min =  +0.83 V, max =  +1.02 V)
in4: +1.21 V  (min =  +1.08 V, max =  +1.32 V)
in5: +1.49 V  (min =  +1.35 V, max =  +1.66 V)
in6: +1.50 V  (min =  +1.35 V, max =  +1.66 V)
in7: +1.35 V  (min =  +1.02 V, max =  +1.54 V)
in8: +1.36 V  (min =  +1.02 V, max =  +1.54 V)
in9: +3.35 V  (min =  +2.97 V, max =  +3.64 V)
in10:+5.04 V  (min =  +4.47 V, max =  +5.49 V)
in11:+0.00 V  (min =  +2.25 V, max =  +2.76 V)
in12:+1.79 V  (min =  +1.77 V, max =  +2.17 V)
in13:+1.19 V  (min =  +0.89 V, max =  +1.09 V)
in14:+0.97 V  (min =  +0.89 V, max =  +1.09 V)
in15:+0.30 V  (min =  +0.07 V, max =  +0.54 V)
in16:+3.41 V  (min =  +2.97 V, max =  +3.63 V)
fan1:  0 RPM  (min =0 RPM)
fan2:  0 RPM  (min =0 RPM)
fan3:  0 RPM  (min =0 RPM)
fan4:  0 RPM  (min =0 RPM)
temp1:   +33.0°C  (low  = -128.0°C, high = -128.0°C)
temp2:   +35.0°C  (low  = -128.0°C, high = -128.0°C)
temp3:   +27.0°C  (low  = -128.0°C, high = +50.0°C)
cpu0_vid:   +1.088 V
cpu1_vid:   +1.088 V
===

But I think that this chipset is not fully supported in lm-sensors  
already, I do not know what temperatures refences temp1, temp2 and  
temp3 params.. maybe physical processors and mother board.. I will  
ask in the m-sensors mailing list..


There's no way to get thermal information information via ACPI in  
this motherboard? I get this error when running "acpi":


# modprobe thermal
# acpi --thermal
No support for device type: thermal

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Re: ntop?

[Todd A. Jacobs]

On Sun, May 25, 2008 at 07:16:32AM -0400, Forsaken wrote:

> ntop - display network usage in top-like format

If you want curses, try iftop instead. "It Works for Me (tm)"

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dot in folder name in Courier or Dovecot [was: Looking for a decent IMAP server with hierarchical folders]

[Public Mailing Lists]

Hi,

I'm looking for a decent imap server that supports hierarchical folders. 
My first try was Cyrus, but that one is too pedantic when accepting 
legacy emails. Other suggestions were Courier and Dovecot with maildir 
storage format.


Now I have lots of folders with dots in their names. And both Courier 
and Dovecot treat the dot as hierarchy separator. Frequently, domain 
names (as in mail.google.com) are used as folder names in my system, and 
these get messed up.


Is there a way in either Courier or Dovecot to allow dots '.' in folder 
names?


Cyrus has "Unix Hierarchy Convention", that appears to work well.
With Dovecot, I tried to set 'separator' to '/' in the 'namespace' 
construct, but it did not help.

How can I get this Unix Hierarchy Convention in Courier or Dovecot?

Thanks,
Gordon



Nate Duehr wrote:


Joe wrote:


Public Mailing Lists wrote:


Hi,

I'm looking for a decent imap server with hierarchical folders.  I 
tried Cyrus, but Cyrus does not accept the emails that I'm trying to 
copy onto it. Which other imap server has hierarchical folders? Any 
experiences for share?


Thanks,
Gordon


IMAP does this by definition. I'm using Courier. Assuming a default 
Debian exim4 installation, you need to switch it to using maildir 
rather than mbox format, I believe all IMAP servers require this.



Courier can be set up to support maildir or mbox formats.  Of course, 
maildir is better.


Nate





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Re: Bash, sed: extracting regex subexpressions

[Todd A. Jacobs]

On Tue, May 27, 2008 at 02:49:59PM +, John O'Hagan wrote:

> in other words, treating backreferences as pseudo-variables, but it
> doesn't, AFAIK.

Use the right tool for the job. If you want to treat grouped matches as
variables, use perl because perl explicitly supports this:

$ echo foobarbaz | \
perl -ne '$_ =~ /(foo)(bar)(baz)/; print "$3, $2, $1\n"'  
baz, bar, foo

If you don't want to use perl, you'll have to use multiple invocations
of grep's -o flag and build up your own capture variables. Good luck!

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Re: maple constantly crashes

[Jerome BENOIT]

Hello,

Maple 11 is fine on my 64 bit Etch box:
have you tried Maple 12 ?
what do you mean by `compositing' ?
are you using Compiz stuff ?

Jerome 


Micha wrote:

i installed linux with maple (11) on it for a friend on his new dell (vosotro
1400). For some reason maple constantly crashes for him (every about 5 minutes)
and leaves behind mangled files. On my machine it seems to run fine, although I
haven't stress tested it. When it crashes the files that were open just seem to
be half written to.

Tried reinstalling with the default java implementation and also linking to the
sun java installation but to no avail

could it be that it is not compatible with 64 bit linux, compositing or
something with debian unstable that doesn't match?

thanks




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/var/lib/apt/lists/partial -> ../*Packages

[jidanni]

I have copied /var/lib/apt/lists/partial/* to another machine, but try
as I might, I cannot get apt to apply those files to ../*Packages. Apt
bombs out if it cannot connect to the network. Yes I will connect it
to the network, but not today.

How can I trick apt into thinking that it has just retrieved those
files itself, and now should apply them?

You see using APT::Get::List-Cleanup false I now have plenty of
/var/lib/apt/lists/partial/* diff files that I can copy to an offline
machine, to avoid copying the larger ../*Packages files.

But on that offline machine there's no way to do an apt-get check or
"apt-get --no-download update" to have those diff files applied to
their corresponding ../*Packages files. apt bombs out if it can
connect to the network.

Do I have to make a script to apply those diff ed(1) scripts by hand?!

Here is the files I copied to the offline machine:
find /var/lib/apt/lists/ -type f ! -name \*_Packages ! -name lock ! \
-name \*.ed -ctime -1


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Re: dpkg error: unable to make backup link of '...'

[Florian Kulzer]

On Tue, May 27, 2008 at 04:25:03 -0700, yinglcs wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> I have been getting this dpkg error: unable to make backup link of '...'.
> I have been posting my question on various forum and I still cant' resolve
> it.
> 
> dpkg: error processing
> /var/cache/apt/archives/xfonts-encodings_1%3a1.0.2-3_all.deb
> (--unpack):
>  unable to make backup link of
> `./usr/share/fonts/X11/encodings/large/big5hkscs-0.enc.gz' before
> installing new version: Operation not permitted
> dpkg-deb: subprocess paste killed by signal (Broken pipe)
> Errors were encountered while processing:
>  /var/cache/apt/archives/python-gnome2-extras_2.19.1-0ubuntu7_i386.deb
>  /var/cache/apt/archives/xfonts-encodings_1%3a1.0.2-3_all.deb
> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
> 
> The closest thing I can find in google is this bug report.
> 
> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/dpkg/+bug/93320
> 
> But i don't know how to solve my problem.
> 
> I appreciate if anyone can help.

Have a look at the output of

lsattr /usr/share/fonts/X11/encodings/large/big5hkscs-0.enc.gz

If you see any problematic attributes then you can change them with the
"chattr" command.

(Send the "lsattr ..." output to the list if you are not sure what it
 means.) 

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Re: dpkg error: unable to make backup link of '...'

[ying lcs]

On Tue, May 27, 2008 at 1:29 PM, Florian Kulzer
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Tue, May 27, 2008 at 04:25:03 -0700, yinglcs wrote:
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> I have been getting this dpkg error: unable to make backup link of '...'.
>> I have been posting my question on various forum and I still cant' resolve
>> it.
>>
>> dpkg: error processing
>> /var/cache/apt/archives/xfonts-encodings_1%3a1.0.2-3_all.deb
>> (--unpack):
>>  unable to make backup link of
>> `./usr/share/fonts/X11/encodings/large/big5hkscs-0.enc.gz' before
>> installing new version: Operation not permitted
>> dpkg-deb: subprocess paste killed by signal (Broken pipe)
>> Errors were encountered while processing:
>>  /var/cache/apt/archives/python-gnome2-extras_2.19.1-0ubuntu7_i386.deb
>>  /var/cache/apt/archives/xfonts-encodings_1%3a1.0.2-3_all.deb
>> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
>>
>> The closest thing I can find in google is this bug report.
>>
>> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/dpkg/+bug/93320
>>
>> But i don't know how to solve my problem.
>>
>> I appreciate if anyone can help.
>
> Have a look at the output of
>
> lsattr /usr/share/fonts/X11/encodings/large/big5hkscs-0.enc.gz
>
> If you see any problematic attributes then you can change them with the
> "chattr" command.
>
> (Send the "lsattr ..." output to the list if you are not sure what it
>  means.)
>

thank you.

I get this:

$ lsattr /usr/share/fonts/X11/encodings/large/big5hkscs-0.enc.gz
--SDi-dAc-Z-E---T- /usr/share/fonts/X11/encodings/large/big5hkscs-0.enc.gz

How to change using 'chattr' command?


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Re: web browser in icedove

[Marcelo Chiapparini]

Andrei Popescu wrote:

On Tue, May 27, 2008 at 07:44:52AM -0300, Marcelo Chiapparini wrote:


I checked and changed the values of

network.protocol-handler.app.http(s)

form "x-www-browser" to "iceweasel". Now icedove opens urls with iceweasel, 
as I want. Thank you very much for the help.


IMO you should have changed where x-www-browser points to, so other 
applications also use iceweasel. The magic incantation (as root) is


update-alternatives --config x-www-browser

and you are presented with a list to choose from.

Regards,
Andrei


Andrei,

thank you very much for your suggestion. In fact, this is a very elegant
solution! I implemented it and works fine.

Regards

Marcelo

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Re: dpkg error: unable to make backup link of '...'

[Mike Bird]

On Tue May 27 2008 12:20:45 ying lcs wrote:
> I get this:
>
> $ lsattr /usr/share/fonts/X11/encodings/large/big5hkscs-0.enc.gz
> --SDi-dAc-Z-E---T- /usr/share/fonts/X11/encodings/large/big5hkscs-0.enc.gz
>
> How to change using 'chattr' command?

chattr = /usr/share/fonts/X11/encodings/large/big5hkscs-0.enc.gz

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Re: dpkg error: unable to make backup link of '...'

[ying lcs]

On Tue, May 27, 2008 at 2:30 PM, Mike Bird <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Tue May 27 2008 12:20:45 ying lcs wrote:
>> I get this:
>>
>> $ lsattr /usr/share/fonts/X11/encodings/large/big5hkscs-0.enc.gz
>> --SDi-dAc-Z-E---T- /usr/share/fonts/X11/encodings/large/big5hkscs-0.enc.gz
>>
>> How to change using 'chattr' command?
>
> chattr = /usr/share/fonts/X11/encodings/large/big5hkscs-0.enc.gz
>
> --Mike Bird
>
>
> --

I have tried you suggestion. And it becomes:

$ lsattr /usr/share/fonts/X11/encodings/large/big5hkscs-0.enc.gz
--Z-E- /usr/share/fonts/X11/encodings/large/big5hkscs-0.enc.gz

But I still get the same error:

pkg: error processing
/var/cache/apt/archives/xfonts-encodings_1%3a1.0.2-3_all.deb
(--unpack):
 unable to make backup link of
`./usr/share/fonts/X11/encodings/large/big5hkscs-0.enc.gz' before
installing new version: Operation not permitted

dpkg-deb: subprocess paste killed by signal (Broken pipe)
Errors were encountered while processing:
/var/cache/apt/archives/python-gnome2-extras_2.19.1-0ubuntu7_i386.deb
/var/cache/apt/archives/xfonts-encodings_1%3a1.0.2-3_all.deb E:



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Strange directories under /lib/modules/

[Andreas Sachs]

Hi,
can anybody explain me where the directories 2.6.18-6-686_kernel_* came from. 
Can i delete the directories?


[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/lib/modules# ll
total 28
drwxr-xr-x  6 root root 4096 May 15 12:04 .
drwxr-xr-x 13 root root 8192 Feb 17 15:04 ..
drwxr-xr-x  4 root root 4096 May 15 12:05 2.6.18-6-686
drwxr-xr-x  9 root root 4096 May  2 13:30 2.6.18-6-686_kernel_22062
drwxr-xr-x  9 root root 4096 Jan 30 19:45 2.6.18-6-686_kernel_4500
drwxr-xr-x  9 root root 4096 Feb 11 17:43 2.6.18-6-686_kernel_4558
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/lib/modules# du -s *
46508   2.6.18-6-686
45004   2.6.18-6-686_kernel_22062
45004   2.6.18-6-686_kernel_4500
45004   2.6.18-6-686_kernel_4558
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/lib/modules#

Thanks
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Re: Wildly OT: Re: apt-get joke

[Ron Johnson]

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On 05/27/08 10:21, i'll teach you to turn away. wrote:
[snip]
> 
>   i DID get him to switch two of his three computers to debian... 
> the windows machine exists solely so he cav VPN to work with proprietary 
> software. that's one bugfix... well, 2/3rds of one anyhow. :D

If it's a desktop system, maybe it could run in a VM?

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Re: dot in folder name in Courier or Dovecot [was: Looking for a decent IMAP server with hierarchical folders]

[Ron Johnson]

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On 05/27/08 12:38, Public Mailing Lists wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> I'm looking for a decent imap server that supports hierarchical folders.
> My first try was Cyrus, but that one is too pedantic when accepting
> legacy emails. Other suggestions were Courier and Dovecot with maildir
> storage format.
> 
> Now I have lots of folders with dots in their names. And both Courier
> and Dovecot treat the dot as hierarchy separator. Frequently, domain
> names (as in mail.google.com) are used as folder names in my system, and
> these get messed up.
> 
> Is there a way in either Courier or Dovecot to allow dots '.' in folder
> names?

It's not Courier and Dovecot, that are the problem, but that
*Maildir* uses dots as hierarchy separator,  Could you change the
dots to underscores?

BTW, you seem to be using a 2 year old version of Mozilla.  Time to
upgrade

> Cyrus has "Unix Hierarchy Convention", that appears to work well.
> With Dovecot, I tried to set 'separator' to '/' in the 'namespace'
> construct, but it did not help.
> How can I get this Unix Hierarchy Convention in Courier or Dovecot?

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Re: dpkg error: unable to make backup link of '...'

[Mike Bird]

On Tue May 27 2008 12:41:19 ying lcs wrote:
> I have tried you suggestion. And it becomes:
>
> $ lsattr /usr/share/fonts/X11/encodings/large/big5hkscs-0.enc.gz
> --Z-E- /usr/share/fonts/X11/encodings/large/big5hkscs-0.enc.gz
>
> But I still get the same error:

Try "rm /usr/share/fonts/X11/encodings/large/big5hkscs-0.enc.gz".  If
that doesn't work try fsck-ing the partition containing the file with
the bad attributes.  You may have to boot from a recovery CD or live CD
in order to fsck.

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Re: dot in folder name in Courier or Dovecot [was: Looking for a decent IMAP server with hierarchical folders]

[Public Mailing Lists]

Hi Ron,

brilliant observation. :-) I can't wait to upgrade from this ancient 
Mozilla, once I get this imap stuff to work...


No, I can't change the dots to underscores, sorry. Cyrus appers to be 
really smart about dots and change them secretly to charets, or 
something. Is it possible to have any other imap server do this the same 
way, i.e. transparently?


Would using mbox make it any better? Actually, I like the idea of 
maildir of having each message in a single file, even though I don't 
understand why maildir uses a dot for folder hierarchy instead of using 
a directory hierarchy provided by the file system...


Cheers,
Gordon


Ron Johnson wrote:


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Hi,

I'm looking for a decent imap server that supports hierarchical folders.
My first try was Cyrus, but that one is too pedantic when accepting
legacy emails. Other suggestions were Courier and Dovecot with maildir
storage format.

Now I have lots of folders with dots in their names. And both Courier
and Dovecot treat the dot as hierarchy separator. Frequently, domain
names (as in mail.google.com) are used as folder names in my system, and
these get messed up.

Is there a way in either Courier or Dovecot to allow dots '.' in folder
names?
   



It's not Courier and Dovecot, that are the problem, but that
*Maildir* uses dots as hierarchy separator,  Could you change the
dots to underscores?

BTW, you seem to be using a 2 year old version of Mozilla.  Time to
upgrade

 


Cyrus has "Unix Hierarchy Convention", that appears to work well.
With Dovecot, I tried to set 'separator' to '/' in the 'namespace'
construct, but it did not help.
How can I get this Unix Hierarchy Convention in Courier or Dovecot?
   




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Re: Wildly OT: Re: apt-get joke

[Paul Johnson]

On Tuesday 27 May 2008 08:07:45 am Andrew Sackville-West wrote:
> On Tue, May 27, 2008 at 05:13:47AM +, i'll teach you to turn away. 
wrote:
> > s. keeling <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > sk> i'll teach you to turn away. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> > >>   granted, but i didn't want my boyfriend to read this & feel bad
> > >>  for being a giant slut before we got together. :D
> >
> > sk> High praise.  This is the funniest post/thread I've read on this
> > list, sk> ever.
> > sk> [Ron, what happens if crank is female?]
> >
> > well, turns out i am female, but it'd leave a bad taste to this
> > thread if we've uncovered anyone's homophobia.
>
> oh don't worry. We'll uncover someone's homophobia quite nicely. So
> long as the topic doesn't drift to religion, we'll be okay.

Though we're treading damn close right now.  Homophobia is sometimes the 
result of religous doctrine.

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Re: Wildly OT: Re: apt-get joke

[Paul Johnson]

On Tuesday 27 May 2008 07:24:25 am Ron Johnson wrote:
> On 05/27/08 09:07, Raymond A. Meijer wrote:
> > On Tue 27 May 2008 8:56, Ron Johnson wrote:
> >>>   hey, i figure - we're already WILDLY off-topic, right? how much
> >>> worse can it get? :D
> >>
> >> A lot worse.
> >
> > /me grabs pop corn and Coca Cola... :-P
>
> Exactly.  Sol going nova,

When that happens, if it's anything like my old Chevy Nova, it'll light up the 
night sky!

> intergalactic construction company building a freeway,

Not their problem we can't be bothered to check the plans on file in some 
office just 4 lightyears away in Alpha Centauri.

> huge ball of garbage heading straight for New New York,

Bah.  We can always launch another ball of garbage at it to deflect it.

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Re: debian-offtopic list [Was: Re: obscenely OT Re: apt-get joke]

[Paul Johnson]

On Tuesday 27 May 2008 08:32:52 am Andrei Popescu wrote:
> On Tue, May 27, 2008 at 04:19:13PM +0100, Steve Kemp wrote:
> >   If you want off-topic mail there are better places than
> >  debian-user to pollute.
> >
> >   Just remember how many people receive these mails..
>
> Maybe you want to advocate for a debian-offtopic list:
>
> http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=427218

Never mind debian-user's topic statement is "Help and discussion among users 
of Debian", which seems to suggest that there's no off-topic /threads/, just 
off-topic /people/ (ie, ubuntu users).

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Re: dot in folder name in Courier or Dovecot [was: Looking for a decent IMAP server with hierarchical folders]

[Ron Johnson]

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On 05/27/08 15:27, Public Mailing Lists wrote:
> Hi Ron,
> 
> brilliant observation. :-) I can't wait to upgrade from this ancient
> Mozilla, once I get this imap stuff to work...
> 
> No, I can't change the dots to underscores, sorry. Cyrus appers to be
> really smart about dots and change them secretly to charets, or
> something. Is it possible to have any other imap server do this the same
> way, i.e. transparently?

Escaping the . might work.  I tried it, from within Icedove, though,
and it didn't work.  Maybe from the command line.

> Would using mbox make it any better?

Depends on your definition of "better".  uw-imapd and (maybe)
Dovecot support mbox-backed-IMAP, so maybe that's the route you
should take.

>  Actually, I like the idea of
> maildir of having each message in a single file, even though I don't
> understand why maildir uses a dot for folder hierarchy instead of using
> a directory hierarchy provided by the file system...

The courier-imap list would probably have that kind of historical
knowledge.

> Cheers,
> Gordon
> 
> 
> Ron Johnson wrote:
>>
>> On 05/27/08 12:38, Public Mailing Lists wrote:
>>  
>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> I'm looking for a decent imap server that supports hierarchical folders.
>>> My first try was Cyrus, but that one is too pedantic when accepting
>>> legacy emails. Other suggestions were Courier and Dovecot with maildir
>>> storage format.
>>>
>>> Now I have lots of folders with dots in their names. And both Courier
>>> and Dovecot treat the dot as hierarchy separator. Frequently, domain
>>> names (as in mail.google.com) are used as folder names in my system, and
>>> these get messed up.
>>>
>>> Is there a way in either Courier or Dovecot to allow dots '.' in folder
>>> names?
>>>   
>>
>> It's not Courier and Dovecot, that are the problem, but that
>> *Maildir* uses dots as hierarchy separator,  Could you change the
>> dots to underscores?
>>
>> BTW, you seem to be using a 2 year old version of Mozilla.  Time to
>> upgrade
>>
>>  
>>
>>> Cyrus has "Unix Hierarchy Convention", that appears to work well.
>>> With Dovecot, I tried to set 'separator' to '/' in the 'namespace'
>>> construct, but it did not help.
>>> How can I get this Unix Hierarchy Convention in Courier or Dovecot?
>>>   
> 
> 


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Re: Debian on Lenovo Thinkcentre 6078

[cody chamberlain]

Samuel Ribas wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> Installing Debian on Lenovo Thinkcentre 6078, the installer can´t find
> network card modules. The network card its an Intell 82566DM-2 Gigabit
> network Conection. Somebody have some issue about this?
>
> Thanks!
> Samuel Ribas
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according to
(http://www.nabble.com/Bug-469143:-Daily-builds-lack-e1000e-nic-driver-td15802877.html)
this driver isn't inlcuded in the netinst, yet. check the page out for
more info.


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squid error Squid Parent: child process exited due to signal 6

[Mark Quitoriano]

I encountered a weird problem with squid. It was aborted with signal 6
so first i thought it was the log files being 2GB in size but when i
checked my cache.log it didn't even hit 100MB so i tailed cache.log
file to see what's going on. i saw this error

2008/05/28 04:52:14| /var/spool/squid/swap.state: (13) Permission denied
FATAL: storeUfsDirOpenSwapLog: Failed to open swap log.
Squid Cache (Version 2.6.STABLE5): Terminated abnormally.

and check the permission of swap.state and saw this

-rw-r-   1 root proxy 6362424 2008-05-28 04:59 swap.state


how did the file became owned by root? and how can i prevent this so
my squid won't abort again when i restart the server?


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Re: squid error Squid Parent: child process exited due to signal 6

[Mark Quitoriano]

On Wed, May 28, 2008 at 5:16 AM, Mark Quitoriano
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I encountered a weird problem with squid. It was aborted with signal 6
> so first i thought it was the log files being 2GB in size but when i
> checked my cache.log it didn't even hit 100MB so i tailed cache.log
> file to see what's going on. i saw this error
>
> 2008/05/28 04:52:14| /var/spool/squid/swap.state: (13) Permission denied
> FATAL: storeUfsDirOpenSwapLog: Failed to open swap log.
> Squid Cache (Version 2.6.STABLE5): Terminated abnormally.
>
> and check the permission of swap.state and saw this
>
> -rw-r-   1 root proxy 6362424 2008-05-28 04:59 swap.state
>
>
> how did the file became owned by root? and how can i prevent this so
> my squid won't abort again when i restart the server?
>
>

oh btw my server is debian 4.0 etch and my squid is version 2.6.5-6etch1.

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Re: maple constantly crashes

[Micha]

On Wed, 28 May 2008 01:18:30 +0800
Jerome BENOIT <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Hello,
> 
> Maple 11 is fine on my 64 bit Etch box:
> have you tried Maple 12 ?
> what do you mean by `compositing' ?
> are you using Compiz stuff ?
> 

It's related to what compiz does, but xfce knows how to use some of it also
(transparency and shadows under windows depend on it). Probably others as well.

did you have an issue with the installation BTW that the links to the java
virtual machine were wrong and had to be fixed by hand?

Could be that my copy of maple is bad, will try to get a different
copy. unfortunately I don't have access to maple 12 at the moment to try out.

Maybe I'll try to downgrade the guy to 32 bit, I know that java has some issues
with 64.

Thanks though

> Jerome 
> 
> Micha wrote:
> > i installed linux with maple (11) on it for a friend on his new dell
> > (vosotro 1400). For some reason maple constantly crashes for him (every
> > about 5 minutes) and leaves behind mangled files. On my machine it seems to
> > run fine, although I haven't stress tested it. When it crashes the files
> > that were open just seem to be half written to.
> > 
> > Tried reinstalling with the default java implementation and also linking to
> > the sun java installation but to no avail
> > 
> > could it be that it is not compatible with 64 bit linux, compositing or
> > something with debian unstable that doesn't match?
> > 
> > thanks
> > 
> > 
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openssl/gnutls + perl, unable to upgrade

[Alex Samad]

Hi

a while ago the debian team moved from linking libraries against the
openssl libriaries to using the gnutls libraries.  The problem with this
is the the gnutls libraries don't handle encrypted private keys.  I have
setup my ldapsearch (and other ldap-utils utilities) to use encrypted
x509 private keys, why use them if you are just going to leave the lying
around the place and not password protected.

This hasn't been a majour problem as yet, but now the new package's
being linked against perl 5.10 and this in turn has indirect dependencies
to gnutls I am unable to do any more upgrades, in particular the recent
libsnmp security I am unable to install becuase of the linkage to perl
5.10.

I have raised a bug report against ldap-utils but, not enough
resources/time to look at this.

How are other people handling their private x509 keys ?

I am guessing now that my only option is to get ldap-utils and
statically compile it against the openssl libraries




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Re: sid: USB-stick - /dev/disk/by-id/ not populated

[Bruno Voigt]

Florian Kulzer wrote:

Thanks for your reply!
> Has the "hotplug" package been purged (not just removed) on the old
> system?
>   
Yes, I purged it as advised by the NEWS.
> In any case, you can use "udevtest" to see which rules are applied. Here
> is an example for a usb stick at /dev/sdc:
>
> $ udevtest /block/sdc/sdc1 | egrep 'persistent\.rules|by-id'
> parse_file: reading '/etc/udev/rules.d/z20_persistent.rules' as rules file
> udev_rules_get_name: add symlink 
> 'disk/by-id/usb-Prolific_Technology_Inc._USB_Mass_Storage_Device-part1'
> udev_node_update_symlinks: update symlink 
> 'disk/by-id/usb-Prolific_Technology_Inc._USB_Mass_Storage_Device-part1' of 
> '/block/sdc/sdc1'
> udev_db_get_devices_by_name: found index directory 
> '/dev/.udev/names/disk\x2fby-id\x2fusb-Prolific_Technology_Inc._USB_Mass_Storage_Device-part1'
> update_link: found 1 devices with name 
> 'disk/by-id/usb-Prolific_Technology_Inc._USB_Mass_Storage_Device-part1'
> update_link: found '/block/sdc/sdc1' for 
> 'disk/by-id/usb-Prolific_Technology_Inc._USB_Mass_Storage_Device-part1'
> update_link: 
> 'disk/by-id/usb-Prolific_Technology_Inc._USB_Mass_Storage_Device-part1' with 
> target 'sdc1' has the highest priority 0, create it
>
>   
Only the first line is shown:

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# udevtest /block/uba/uba1 | egrep 'persistent\.rules|by-id'
parse_file: reading '/etc/udev/rules.d/z20_persistent.rules' as rules file

I'm using a selfcompiled kernel 2.6.25.4 (previosuly 2.6.24.4),
are there any special config options needed ?

Here is a excerpt from the syslog after plugging the stick:

May 27 23:47:38 host kernel: usb 1-1: new high speed USB device using
ehci_hcd and address 4
May 27 23:47:38 host kernel: usb 1-1: configuration #1 chosen from 1 choice
May 27 23:47:38 host kernel:  uba: uba1
May 27 23:47:38 host kernel: usb 1-1: New USB device found,
idVendor=0781, idProduct=5151
May 27 23:47:38 host kernel: usb 1-1: New USB device strings: Mfr=1,
Product=2, SerialNumber=3
May 27 23:47:38 host kernel: usb 1-1: Product: Cruzer Micro
May 27 23:47:38 host kernel: usb 1-1: Manufacturer: SanDisk Corporation
May 27 23:47:38 host kernel: usb 1-1: SerialNumber: SNDKB749E40AD9708702
 

WR,
Bruno


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Re: Wildly OT: Re: apt-get joke

[Raquel]

On Tue, 27 May 2008 13:25:22 -0700
"Paul Johnson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> On Tuesday 27 May 2008 08:07:45 am Andrew Sackville-West wrote:
> > On Tue, May 27, 2008 at 05:13:47AM +, i'll teach you to turn
> > away. 
> wrote:
> > > s. keeling <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >
> > > sk> i'll teach you to turn away. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> > > >>   granted, but i didn't want my boyfriend to read this &
> > > >> feel bad for being a giant slut before we got together. :D
> > >
> > > sk> High praise.  This is the funniest post/thread I've read on
> > > sk> this
> > > list, sk> ever.
> > > sk> [Ron, what happens if crank is female?]
> > >
> > >   well, turns out i am female, but it'd leave a bad taste
> > > to this thread if we've uncovered anyone's homophobia.
> >
> > oh don't worry. We'll uncover someone's homophobia quite nicely.
> > So long as the topic doesn't drift to religion, we'll be okay.
> 
> Though we're treading damn close right now.  Homophobia is
> sometimes the result of religous doctrine.
> 
> -- 
> Paul Johnson

So has been racism.  Neither is good.

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Re: Wildly OT: Re: apt-get joke

[Ron Johnson]

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On 05/27/08 17:38, Raquel wrote:
> On Tue, 27 May 2008 13:25:22 -0700
> "Paul Johnson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
>> On Tuesday 27 May 2008 08:07:45 am Andrew Sackville-West wrote:
>>> On Tue, May 27, 2008 at 05:13:47AM +, i'll teach you to turn
>>> away. 
>> wrote:
 s. keeling <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

 sk> i'll teach you to turn away. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>>   granted, but i didn't want my boyfriend to read this &
>> feel bad for being a giant slut before we got together. :D
 sk> High praise.  This is the funniest post/thread I've read on
 sk> this
 list, sk> ever.
 sk> [Ron, what happens if crank is female?]

well, turns out i am female, but it'd leave a bad taste
 to this thread if we've uncovered anyone's homophobia.
>>> oh don't worry. We'll uncover someone's homophobia quite nicely.
>>> So long as the topic doesn't drift to religion, we'll be okay.
>> Though we're treading damn close right now.  Homophobia is
>> sometimes the result of religous doctrine.
>>
> 
> So has been racism.  Neither is good.

Blah blah blah pablum.  Won't anyone stand up and say, "I'm a
homophobe and damned proud of it!"?

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Re: freezes in 2.6.25

[Celejar]

On Mon, 19 May 2008 14:33:58 -0500
Hugo Vanwoerkom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> Just FYI, I went back to 2.6.24-1-686.
> I had 2.6.25-1-686 + 2.6.25-2-686 running for 9 days and had 3 hard 
> freezes: nothing moved, no kbd, no mouse.
> The logs showed nothing up to the moment.
> That hasn't happened since I bought this mobo 3 years ago.
> 
> It could be my hardware setup:
> 2 ATA disks, 2 USB external drives, one ATA, one SATA.

2.6.25 freezes for me, too, after various amounts of uptime, but always
within about fifteen minutes.  In my case, I'm pretty sure it's this:

http://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10729

some sort of regression in the RTC code (I, and the reporter there, had
been running 2.6.24 without any problems), since when I followed a
suggestion in the bug thread and disabled chrony, the problem went
away.  If you're running an NTP daemon, or anything else that talks to
the RTC, try disabling it and see if the problem persists

> Hugo

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Re: Wildly OT: Re: apt-get joke

[s. keeling]

Hal Vaughan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>  On Tuesday 27 May 2008, Andrew Sackville-West wrote:
> >
> > Come on, all geeks know nothing is bug free. 
> 
>  I wrote a C++ program that was bug free once.  Worked perfectly every 
>  time.  Here's the source:

Doesn't do mail, so it's not done.


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Re: Wildly OT: Re: apt-get joke

[s. keeling]

Paul Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>  On Tuesday 27 May 2008 08:07:45 am Andrew Sackville-West wrote:
> >
> > oh don't worry. We'll uncover someone's homophobia quite nicely. So
> > long as the topic doesn't drift to religion, we'll be okay.
> 
>  Though we're treading damn close right now.  Homophobia is sometimes the
>  result of religous doctrine.

I imagine the reverse is true too.

The local news carried a story the other day about a school that was
hypeing diversity, and they instructed the kids to make T-shirts with
anti-homophobe sayings to participate.  Some sharp little cookies came
up with "Homophobia is Gay".  They were told to change since that
would be considered a disparaging comment under the present regime.

I'm not making this up.  Nicely done t's too, silkscreened, with
sparkles.

Yo baloo.


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Re: freezes in 2.6.25

[John Hasler]

Celejar writes:
> some sort of regression in the RTC code (I, and the reporter there, had
> been running 2.6.24 without any problems), since when I followed a
> suggestion in the bug thread and disabled chrony, the problem went away.

Did you have the rtcfile line commented out in /etc/chrony/chrony.conf?  If
not did you try commenting it out before turning chrony off?
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Re: freezes in 2.6.25

[Celejar]

On Tue, 27 May 2008 18:32:21 -0500
John Hasler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Celejar writes:
> > some sort of regression in the RTC code (I, and the reporter there, had
> > been running 2.6.24 without any problems), since when I followed a
> > suggestion in the bug thread and disabled chrony, the problem went away.
> 
> Did you have the rtcfile line commented out in /etc/chrony/chrony.conf?  If

I didn't.

> not did you try commenting it out before turning chrony off?

I'll try it and report back.  Thanks for the suggestion; it's been a
while since I configured chrony, and I'd forgotten about that.

> John Hasler

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Re: Wildly OT: Re: apt-get joke

[Celejar]

On Tue, 27 May 2008 08:07:45 -0700
Andrew Sackville-West <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

...

> Come on, all geeks know nothing is bug free. The bugs just haven't

And you call yourself a Mutt user!  From the manpage:



BUGS
   None.  Mutts have fleas, not bugs.

...

 For  a more up-to-date list of bugs, errm, fleas, please visit the mutt 
project’s bug tracking system
   under http://bugs.mutt.org/.



> A

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Re: Wildly OT: Re: apt-get joke

[Douglas A. Tutty]

On Tue, May 27, 2008 at 01:25:22PM -0700, Paul Johnson wrote:
 
> Though we're treading damn close right now.  Homophobia is sometimes the 
> result of religous doctrine.

How could religious doctrine result in a fear that everything will be
like everything else?  Entropy is the end-point of the universe.  

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Re: Wildly OT: Re: apt-get joke

[Douglas A. Tutty]

On Wed, May 28, 2008 at 01:06:13AM +0200, s. keeling wrote:
> Hal Vaughan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> >  On Tuesday 27 May 2008, Andrew Sackville-West wrote:
> > >
> > > Come on, all geeks know nothing is bug free. 
> > 
> >  I wrote a C++ program that was bug free once.  Worked perfectly every 
> >  time.  Here's the source:
> 
> Doesn't do mail, so it's not done.
> 

Ok, so it doesn't do mail, but it works in more than one language.  Here
it is:

8>--

#

8>--

It doesn't do much, but it doesn't do the wrong thing either.  Perhaps
the shortest program ever written.  Call it the replacement speach
module for Dubya.

:)

Doug.


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Re: dot in folder name in Courier or Dovecot [was: Looking for a decent IMAP server with hierarchical folders]

[Ron Johnson]

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On 05/27/08 16:00, Ron Johnson wrote:
> On 05/27/08 15:27, Public Mailing Lists wrote:
>> Hi Ron,
> 
>> brilliant observation. :-) I can't wait to upgrade from this ancient
>> Mozilla, once I get this imap stuff to work...
> 
>> No, I can't change the dots to underscores, sorry. Cyrus appers to be
>> really smart about dots and change them secretly to charets, or
>> something. Is it possible to have any other imap server do this the same
>> way, i.e. transparently?
> 
> Escaping the . might work.  I tried it, from within Icedove, though,
> and it didn't work.  Maybe from the command line.

Ok, it *is* possible to create Maildir folders with dots in them.

$ maildirmake -f test\.ing Maildir
$#
$ dir Maildir/.test.ing/
total 32
drwx--  6 me me 4096 2008-05-27 20:00 ./
drwx-w 88 me me 4096 2008-05-27 19:59 ../
- -rw-r--r--  1 me me   43 2008-05-27 20:00 courierimapacl
drwx--  2 me me 4096 2008-05-27 20:01 courierimapkeywords/
- -rw-r--r--  1 me me   84 2008-05-27 20:01 courierimapuiddb
drwx--  2 me me 4096 2008-05-27 20:01 cur/
- -rw---  1 me me0 2008-05-27 19:59 maildirfolder
drwx--  2 me me 4096 2008-05-27 19:59 new/
drwx--  2 me me 4096 2008-05-27 20:01 tmp/

The Python IMAP library sees that the test.ing folder has no
children, but Icedove/Tbird doesn't handle it correctly.  Maybe
Sylpheed or GNOME will?

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Re: Wildly OT: Re: apt-get joke

[David Fox]

On Tue, May 27, 2008 at 5:59 PM, Douglas A. Tutty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 8>--
>
> #
>
> 8>--

EMFBI, but that won't compile in Fortran. Here's a quick and dirty patch

C

:)


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Re: Wildly OT: Re: apt-get joke

[David Fox]

On Tue, May 27, 2008 at 8:19 AM, Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Actually, there are 2, maybe three other semi-active women on the
> list.  The reason is obvious: math is hard, computers are icky.

The "maybe" one is Michelle. :)


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Re: Wildly OT: Re: apt-get joke

[Chris Bannister]

On Tue, May 27, 2008 at 09:00:52PM -0400, Douglas A. Tutty wrote:
> On Tue, May 27, 2008 at 01:25:22PM -0700, Paul Johnson wrote:
>  
> > Though we're treading damn close right now.  Homophobia is sometimes the 
> > result of religous doctrine.
> 
> How could religious doctrine result in a fear that everything will be
> like everything else?  Entropy is the end-point of the universe.  

Rule #1 No pooftahs!
Rule #2 No pooftahs!
Rule #3 There is *no* rule 3
Rule #4 No pooftahs!

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Re: Wildly OT: Re: apt-get joke

[Douglas A. Tutty]

On Tue, May 27, 2008 at 06:21:04PM -0700, David Fox wrote:
> On Tue, May 27, 2008 at 5:59 PM, Douglas A. Tutty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > 8>--
> >
> > #
> >
> > 8>--
> 
> EMFBI, but that won't compile in Fortran. Here's a quick and dirty patch
> 
> C
> 
> :)
> 

And in postscript, and a few others:


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Re: Wildly OT: Re: apt-get joke

[Hal Vaughan]

On Tuesday 27 May 2008, Ron Johnson wrote:
> On 05/27/08 17:38, Raquel wrote:
> > On Tue, 27 May 2008 13:25:22 -0700
> >
> > "Paul Johnson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >> On Tuesday 27 May 2008 08:07:45 am Andrew Sackville-West wrote:
> >>> On Tue, May 27, 2008 at 05:13:47AM +, i'll teach you to turn
> >>> away.
> >>
> >> wrote:
>  s. keeling <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
>  sk> i'll teach you to turn away. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> >>   granted, but i didn't want my boyfriend to read this &
> >> feel bad for being a giant slut before we got together. :D
> 
>  sk> High praise.  This is the funniest post/thread I've read on
>  sk> this
>  list, sk> ever.
>  sk> [Ron, what happens if crank is female?]
> 
>   well, turns out i am female, but it'd leave a bad taste
>  to this thread if we've uncovered anyone's homophobia.
> >>>
> >>> oh don't worry. We'll uncover someone's homophobia quite nicely.
> >>> So long as the topic doesn't drift to religion, we'll be okay.
> >>
> >> Though we're treading damn close right now.  Homophobia is
> >> sometimes the result of religous doctrine.
> >
> > So has been racism.  Neither is good.
>
> Blah blah blah pablum.  Won't anyone stand up and say, "I'm a
> homophobe and damned proud of it!"?

It's your idea.  You go first.


Hal


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Re: Wildly OT: Re: apt-get joke

[Ron Johnson]

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On 05/27/08 21:16, Hal Vaughan wrote:
> On Tuesday 27 May 2008, Ron Johnson wrote:
>> On 05/27/08 17:38, Raquel wrote:
>>> On Tue, 27 May 2008 13:25:22 -0700
>>>
>>> "Paul Johnson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
 On Tuesday 27 May 2008 08:07:45 am Andrew Sackville-West wrote:
> On Tue, May 27, 2008 at 05:13:47AM +, i'll teach you to turn
> away.
 wrote:
>> s. keeling <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>> sk> i'll teach you to turn away. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
   granted, but i didn't want my boyfriend to read this &
 feel bad for being a giant slut before we got together. :D
>> sk> High praise.  This is the funniest post/thread I've read on
>> sk> this
>> list, sk> ever.
>> sk> [Ron, what happens if crank is female?]
>>
>>  well, turns out i am female, but it'd leave a bad taste
>> to this thread if we've uncovered anyone's homophobia.
> oh don't worry. We'll uncover someone's homophobia quite nicely.
> So long as the topic doesn't drift to religion, we'll be okay.
 Though we're treading damn close right now.  Homophobia is
 sometimes the result of religous doctrine.
>>> So has been racism.  Neither is good.
>>
>> Blah blah blah pablum.  Won't anyone stand up and say, "I'm a
>> homophobe and damned proud of it!"?
> 
> It's your idea.  You go first.

But only if I believe that.

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amd64 and sun-java6-jdk

[Tony Maher]

Hello,

I am trying to install java6 from etch backports on an amd64 machine.
Problem is that sun-java6-jre (machine independent) is version
6-06-1~bpo40+1
(which is version  i386 uses) but the rest of amd64 sun-java5 packages are
6-00-2~bpo.1

apt-get -s install -f sun-java6-jre sun-java6-jdk sun-java6-doc
sun-java6-demo sun-java6-bin
  Reading package lists... Done
  Building dependency tree... Done
  Some packages could not be installed. This may mean that you have
  requested an impossible situation or if you are using the unstable
  distribution that some required packages have not yet been created
  or been moved out of Incoming.
  The following information may help to resolve the situation:

  The following packages have unmet dependencies:
sun-java6-bin: Depends: sun-java6-jre (= 6-00-2~bpo.1) but
6-06-1~bpo40+1 is to be installed
sun-java6-demo: Depends: sun-java6-jre (= 6-00-2~bpo.1) but
6-06-1~bpo40+1 is to be installed
sun-java6-jdk: Depends: sun-java6-jre (= 6-00-2~bpo.1) but
6-06-1~bpo40+1 is to be installed
sun-java6-jre: Depends: sun-java6-bin (= 6-06-1~bpo40+1) but
6-00-2~bpo.1 is to be installed or
  ia32-sun-java6-bin (= 6-06-1~bpo40+1) but it is
not going to be installed
  E: Broken packages


Presumably jre version 6-06-1~bpo40+1 would be fine???
If so how to force the install?

thanks
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Re: Wildly OT: Re: apt-get joke

[Gabriel Parrondo]

El mar, 27-05-2008 a las 15:22 +, i'll teach you to turn away.
escribió:
> Andrew Sackville-West <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> ASW> On Tue, May 27, 2008 at 06:36:21AM +0200, s. keeling wrote:
> >> [Ron, what happens if crank is female?]
> ASW> Ooh! I know the answer to this one! We all crowd around her, sort of
> ASW> giggling. A variety of questions get asked ultimately focusing on how
> ASW> it must be weird to be the only woman around here. How it must have
> ASW> helped her to be female in the 
> ASW> department. Then when she's had enough scrutiny, she wanders away and
> ASW> we're all left wondering what happened. lather rinse repeat. ;-P
> 
>   welp, considering i've been on usenet since 1996, that 
> wandering-away part isn't likely, but i'm good with the rest of it. & i do 
> indeed work for an ISP.
> 
>   http://tinyurl.com/ail9
>   http://compunction.org/art.html
> 
>   allow me to draw further attention to myself. :D
> 

Aren't you the girl from the sexchart?

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Gnome Screensaver: "Video Mode Not Supported"

[Todd A. Jacobs]

I currently have an nVidia Quadro card using the 169.12 drivers
installed via module-assistant, and am running Gnome + Compiz as my
desktop. The problem I'm having is with the Gnome screensaver power
management. The "put display to sleep" open has been selected, but
instead of turning off, the monitor is flashing "video mode not
supported" when the sleep option is triggered.

The monitor sleeps properly with other systems, so I know the monitor
itself supports this functionality. What do I need to do to have monitor
power management working with my card?

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last chance to participate in the Debian user survey

[Paul Wise]

Hi all,

The deadline for submissions for the Debian user survey is fast
approaching (1am UTC June 1 2008), after this the survey will be closed
and mails to the survey address will be rejected. So if you would like
to participate, please reply to this mail:

http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2008/03/msg02475.html

I'm also closing the survey of new Debian contributors at the same time,
if you want to participate in that, please read this:

http://lists.debian.org/debian-mentors/2008/03/msg00030.html

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Re: dot in folder name in Courier or Dovecot

[Nicolas KOWALSKI]

Public Mailing Lists <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> No, I can't change the dots to underscores, sorry. Cyrus appers to
> be really smart about dots and change them secretly to charets, or
> something. Is it possible to have any other imap server do this the
> same way, i.e. transparently?

With Dovecot, you can use a namespace to define '/' as the hierarchy
separator, even if Maildir is used as storage.

BTW, what are the problems with Cyrus ?

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