Re: blogging - alternative packages
On Sat, May 17, 2008 at 11:41:43PM -0500, Russell L. Harris wrote: > I am in search of a simplified approach to blog maintenance. Snarky answer: apt-cache search blog Less snarky answer: Try nanoblogger, blosxom, pyblosxom, or tiddlywiki. This is very much a YMMV issue. -- "Oh, look: rocks!" -- Doctor Who, "Destiny of the Daleks" -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Debian secure by default?
On Fri, May 16, 2008 at 08:20:07PM -0700, Mike Bird wrote:
> In a standard Debian workstation with no services listening you really
> don't need a firewall today. This may change if Linux in the future
There's also the case for opening a port but wanting to limit which
systems are trusted to connect to it. Just because they're on your LAN
doesn't mean you want everyone connecting to your wifi router to access
your print server. And hey, maybe you want some finer-grained control
over who can access your sshd (especially considering the recent
weak-key vulnerabilities) than you can get with just sshd_config and
/etc/hosts.{deny,allow} in the mix.
And yes, before someone chimes in and talks about how you can use
tcpwrappers, .htaccess files, or other application-specific controls to
manage access, there's something to be said for a defense-in-depth
approach. So, host-based firewalls are *not* useless, but they may also
not be necessary for a given configuration.
This is very much an "it depends" sort of thing. I agree with the poster
who said that a box with no listening sockets doesn't need an inbound
firewall filter, but just because a function is redundant doesn't mean
it is useless. :)
In practice, though, unless firewall (re)configuration support is added
to every single network-aware package, I don't think shipping a default
firewall is a good idea. It would cause more problems than it would
solve ("Why won't package X work after installation?") and create a huge
amount of added complexity to package installs. This sort of subsystem
could certainly be added to dpkg/debconf with enough dedicated labor,
but I'm not sure it's really needed.
What I really want to know is why the original poster can't just
"aptitude install firestarter" or similar, and scratch his own itch?
That seems simple and painless enough to me, without needing more exotic
solutions.
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Re: X gets killed immediately after successful graphical logon
On Fri, May 16, 2008 at 01:47:46PM -0400, Kamaraju S Kusumanchi wrote: > > I can't get into any of my sessions, whatever I do. Make sure all your mount points are properly mounted. I recently had an experience where /tmp wasn't being mounted, and so the X11 sockets weren't being created. -- "Oh, look: rocks!" -- Doctor Who, "Destiny of the Daleks" -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: concerning kqemu packages
On Fri, May 16, 2008 at 09:49:30AM +0200, Matej Kosik wrote: > I would like to ask why the following action was not included directly > to the post-installation step of appropriate package that provides > kqemu? Just because you install a module onto your system doesn't mean you always want it loaded into the running kernel. Most modules will auto-load when needed; if not, /etc/modules is the place to put modules that you always want running after boot-up. You may not even need kqemu, if your processor has vmx or svm support. Something worth checking into, at any rate. -- "Oh, look: rocks!" -- Doctor Who, "Destiny of the Daleks" -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: openoffice java problem in sid
Yes /N Javier Barroso wrote: Hello, Have you got sun-java as the default java (with update-alternatives) ? On Tue, May 20, 2008 at 11:29 AM, niclas w <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I can't set java runtime environment in openoffice 2.4.0 (openoffice.org-core 1:2.4.0-6) Tools >> Options >> Openoffice.org >> Java When I set jre to Sun Microsystems 1.6.0_06 it seems to work but when I reopen the window it's not set. Niether does it tell me to restart oo. Also I can't change the two found jre's neither add more jre's Is this a debian or oo problem? Debian sid 2.6.24-1-amd64 /N -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: blogging - alternative packages
On 5/22/08, Todd A. Jacobs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Less snarky answer: > > Try nanoblogger, blosxom, pyblosxom, or tiddlywiki. > > This is very much a YMMV issue. YMMV? cheers Simon -- XMPP: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Multilevel-menu for awesome
Hi! I'd really like to give awesome (the window manager) a try, but I'm missing a multilevel-menu. The awesome-menu app itself is pretty neat, but sometimes I find the right application by poking around in a categorized menu (thanks to Debian's great menu policy). I tried 9menu, ratmenu, deskmenu, but they all provide only one level. I want something like the menu fluxbox provides. But that's not a standalone app, is it? Do you know any? I wouldn't even mind installing a small window manager to use its menu, but I don't know any that provide a standalone menu that works with other window managers. Any suggestions appreciating, Tobias pgpbghqPaaKsv.pgp Description: PGP signature
kernel update breaks network
Hi guys, I just updated an Etch server to linux-image-2.6.18-6-k7 (from -5-) and after a reboot network won't come up. The network card is an Intel 100mbit, uses the e100 driver. The driver loads, but trying to bring eth0 up gives me a "does not exist" error. After much back and forth fiddling and replacing the card without any luck, I remembered this has happened before, and by accident I found out the previous time that the interface number has changed. So I checked. Sure as bob, it was now eth4... Why does this happen? I imagine there's some of caching of the MAC address going on, and I'm worried this might expire at some point. Another thing I noticed, while trying all sorts of things. I could not get the e100 driver to load with any options. I tried eeprom_bad_csum_allow=1 and debug=16 and it simply did not happen. This just adds to another problem I have with e100, on my workstation, where it sees only one of two identical cards, forcing me to use eepro100 for the second. Any ideas appreciated Thanks --kj -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: curlftpfs and /dev/fuse
--- Florian Kulzer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ha scritto: > > Can you load the fuse module? Run "modprobe -v fuse" as root and > check > if /dev/fuse is created. If this does not work then tell us which > kernel > you run. (Post the output of "uname -a".) Hi Florian, the fuse module loads fine and I can find the special device /dev/fuse. Thank you very much. At this point I should load the module at startup or compile it into the kernel. Best regards, Fabrizio ___ Scopri il Blog di Yahoo! Mail: trucchi, novità, consigli... e la tua opinione! http://www.ymailblogit.com/blog/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: OT: C++ help
Mike Bird wrote: On Wed May 21 2008 20:01:10 Jordi Gutiérrez Hermoso wrote: On 21/05/2008, Mike Bird <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Wed May 21 2008 19:00:27 Jordi Gutiérrez Hermoso wrote: > The problem seems to be that all of my functions being named f are > somehow colliding with each other. Annotated C++ Reference Manual, Ellis & Stroustrup, Section 13.1 (Declaration Matching). "A function member of a derived class is not in the same scope as a function member of the same name in a base class." So what's the fix here? Why does a using A::f declaration inside class B not work? There's no f(int) in scope, only int(foo). Which... the compiler kindly tells us: do_foo.cpp: In function 'int main()': do_foo.cpp:18: error: no matching function for call to 'B::f(int&)' do_foo.cpp:12: note: candidates are: virtual void B::f(foo) make: *** [do_foo.o] Error 1 Hugo You could always switch to A's scope: dynamic_cast(&b)->f(a); But the best solution is to read up on WHY C++ works this way so you can understand the implications that thousands of great minds have already pondered. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: kernel update breaks network
Hi kj, On Thu, May 22, 2008 at 01:50:04PM +0100, kj wrote: > Hi guys, > > I just updated an Etch server to linux-image-2.6.18-6-k7 (from -5-) and > after a reboot network won't come up. The network card is an Intel > 100mbit, uses the e100 driver. The driver loads, but trying to bring > eth0 up gives me a "does not exist" error. > > After much back and forth fiddling and replacing the card without any > luck, I remembered this has happened before, and by accident I found out > the previous time that the interface number has changed. So I checked. > Sure as bob, it was now eth4... > > Why does this happen? I imagine there's some of caching of the MAC > address going on, and I'm worried this might expire at some point. I don't know the exact reason, but I believe it to be responsability of udev. Probably the new Kernel detects the card differently. If udev is correctly running, you should have a file /etc/udev/rules.d/z25_persistent-net.rules containing entries for each network-device. If you change there "eth4" to "eth0", it should work. HTH, Axel -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: kernel update breaks network
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 05/22/08 07:50, kj wrote: > Hi guys, > > I just updated an Etch server to linux-image-2.6.18-6-k7 (from -5-) and > after a reboot network won't come up. The network card is an Intel > 100mbit, uses the e100 driver. The driver loads, but trying to bring > eth0 up gives me a "does not exist" error. > > After much back and forth fiddling and replacing the card without any > luck, I remembered this has happened before, and by accident I found out > the previous time that the interface number has changed. So I checked. > Sure as bob, it was now eth4... > > Why does this happen? I imagine there's some of caching of the MAC > address going on, and I'm worried this might expire at some point. Look in /etc/udev/persistent-net-generator.rules and the file it generates, /etc/udev/rules.d/z25_persistent-net.rules. > Another thing I noticed, while trying all sorts of things. I could not > get the e100 driver to load with any options. I tried > eeprom_bad_csum_allow=1 and debug=16 and it simply did not happen. > > This just adds to another problem I have with e100, on my workstation, > where it sees only one of two identical cards, forcing me to use > eepro100 for the second. - -- Ron Johnson, Jr. Jefferson LA USA ESPN makes baseball players better. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFINW7RS9HxQb37XmcRAuHxAJ9WDxUaX3g99eAmRztZGgdjEFgJXgCgol2X 4fjQAYjWmsKhA48lice/qrA= =4e5q -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: OT: C++ help
On 21/05/2008, Mike Bird <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Wed May 21 2008 20:01:10 Jordi Gutiérrez Hermoso wrote:
>
> > So what's the fix here? Why does a using A::f declaration inside class
> > B not work?
>
>
> There's no f(int) in scope, only int(foo).
No, no, wait. This makes no sense. Consider
class foo{};
class A{
public:
void f(int a ){a++;};
private:
virtual void f(foo a) = 0;
};
class B : public A{
public:
using A::f;
private:
virtual void f(foo a){};
};
int main(){
B b;
int a=0;
b.f(a);
}
versus
class foo{};
class A{
public:
void f(int a ){a++;};
public:
virtual void f(foo a) = 0;
};
class B : public A{
public:
using A::f;
public:
virtual void f(foo a){};
};
int main(){
B b;
int a=0;
b.f(a);
}
The *only* thing that changed is the access specifiers. For some
reason, the name lookup works and it seems that the compiler
understands that "using A::f" means "A::f(int)" when some function is
public but fails when the function is private, and tries instead to
interpret "using A::f" as "A::f(C)". The first example fails to
compile, but the second one does.
> But the best solution is to read up on WHY C++ works this way so
> you can understand the implications that thousands of great minds
> have already pondered.
Well, those great minds seem to be too great for me to fathom, because
I really don't see why it seems here that a function's signature isn't
enough to specify it, and they saw it fit to make sure I couldn't both
I overload and inherit three related but different functions.
C++ isn't perfect, the standard isn't gospel, and I'm beginning to
suspect a bug in gcc.
- Jordi G. H.
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Re: kernel update breaks network
> I just updated an Etch server to linux-image-2.6.18-6-k7 (from -5-) and > after a reboot network won't come up. The network card is an Intel > 100mbit, uses the e100 driver. The driver loads, but trying to bring > eth0 up gives me a "does not exist" error. > [...] > Any ideas appreciated Something like this happened to me just a few days ago. I bought two identical motherboards, but only 1 CPU (awaiting a free CPU from a friend). I wanted to test both mboards right away, in case any of them was dead. I built a machine around the first mboard, and then installed Lenny using a daily-build Debian-installer CD from March. It all worked fine, including the NIC being autodetected as "eth0", etc. Then, I swapped in the other mboard. All worked just as well, except the NIC didn't seem to be detected. Upon closer inspection, I found (via 'dmesg | less') that the kernel was seeing it just fine but udev was renaming the NIC from "eth0" to "eth1". The problem turned out to be relatively simple. A list of devices discovered by udev is kept in /etc/udev. The MAC address of the NIC on the first mboard was stored in a "persistent rules" file there, and udev has been written to assume that any device it discovered in the past may suddenly reappear someday. In short, udev was preserving the "eth0" name for the NIC from the first mboard, and was assigning "eth1" to the NIC on the second mboard. This sounds very similar to the problem you are having! ;) My advice is: 1) Go to /etc/udev/rules.d in a terminal. 2) Run 'grep eth *'. (In my case, the file I found with the problem was called 'z25_persistent-net.rules'.) 3) Use your favorite editor (as root, or with 'sudo' or 'su -c', etc.) to alter the configuration to your liking. In my case, I commented out the line that was assigning "eth0" only to the MAC address of the NIC on the first mboard, and then edited "eth1" to "eth0" on the line identifying the MAC address of the NIC on the second mboard. 4) Run 'ifup eth0'. In my case all was well. HTH, Dave Witbrodt -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Python problems with a lot of applications.
hallo all, I have a lot of "applications" broken, and seems the problem is all the same, i suppose. for example when i try launch the applet "gmail-notify" i get: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ gmail-notify Traceback (most recent call last): File "./notifier.py", line 4, in import pygtk ImportError: No module named pygtk [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ * Other example is the gdesklets: * ** [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ gdesklets Traceback (most recent call last): File "/usr/bin/gdesklets", line 3, in from main import client, DISPLAY, HOME, USERHOME File "/usr/lib/gdesklets/main/__init__.py", line 3, in import utils File "/usr/lib/gdesklets/utils/__init__.py", line 3, in import gtk ImportError: No module named gtk [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ *I have a lot of packages installed for python: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ dpkg -l | grep -i python ii awn-applets-python-core 0.2.6-2 A collection of applets for avant-window-nav ii libboost-python1.34.1 1.34.1-11Boost.Python Library ii python 2.5.2-1 An interactive high-level object-oriented la ii python-alsaaudio 0.2-1+b1 Alsa bindings for Python ii python-apt 0.7.5Python interface to libapt-pkg ii python-awn 0.2.6-5 Python bindings for avant-window-navigator l ii python-awn-extras 0.2.6-2 Python bindings for avant-window-navigator's ii python-awnlib 0.2.6-2 Python utilities for avant-window-navigator' ii python-beagle 0.3.5-1+b1 Python bindings for beagle ii python-cairo 1.4.12-1 Python bindings for the Cairo vector graphic ii python-central 0.6.6register and build utility for Python packag ii python-chardet 1.0.1-1 universal character encoding detector ii python-compizconfig 0.7.5+git20080425.shame-1Python bindings for the Compiz Configuration ii python-crypto 2.0.1+dfsg1-2.1 cryptographic algorithms and protocols for P ii python-ctypes 1.0.2-5 Python package to create and manipulate C da ii python-dbus 0.82.4-2 simple interprocess messaging system (Python ii python-dev 2.5.2-1 Header files and a static library for Python ii python-elementtree 1.2.6-12 Light-weight toolkit for XML processing ii python-feedparser 4.1-10 Universal Feed Parser for Python ii python-foomatic 0.7.7-0.2Python interface to the Foomatic printer dat ii python-fpconst 0.7.2-4 Utilities for handling IEEE 754 floating poi ii python-gdata 1.0.9-1 Google Data Python client library ii python-glade2 2.12.1-3 GTK+ bindings: Glade support ii python-gmenu 2.22.1-3 an implementation of the freedesktop menu sp ii python-gnome2 2.22.0-1 Python bindings for the GNOME desktop enviro ii python-gnome2-desktop 2.22.0-1 Python bindings for the GNOME desktop enviro ii python-gnome2-extras 2.14.3-1+b1 Python bindings for the GNOME desktop enviro ii python-gnome2-extras-dev 2.14.3-1 Python bindings for the GNOME desktop enviro ii python-gnupginterface 0.3.2-9 Python interface to GnuPG (GPG) ii python-gobject 2.14.1-6 Python bindings for the GObject library ii python-gobject-dev 2.14.1-6 Development headers for the GObject Python b ii python-gst0.10 0.10.11-1generic media-playing framework (Python bind ii python-gtk2 2.12.1-3 Python bindings for the GTK+ widget set ii python-gtk2-dev
Re: Python problems with a lot of applications.
On Thu, May 22, 2008 at 03:46:29PM +0100, Dark Nebula <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> was heard to say: > I have a lot of "applications" broken, and seems the problem is all the > same, i suppose. > for example when i try launch the applet "gmail-notify" i get: > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ gmail-notify > Traceback (most recent call last): > File "./notifier.py", line 4, in >import pygtk > ImportError: No module named pygtk > [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ [sbip] > ii python-gobject2.14.1-6 > Python bindings for the GObject library > ii python-gobject-dev2.14.1-6 > Development headers for the GObject Python b [snip] Does the file /usr/share/python-support/python-gobject/pygtk.py exist on your system? What do these commands output? ls /var/lib/python-support find /var/lib/python-support name pygtk.pyc Daniel -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Python problems with a lot of applications.
Hello Dark, On Thu, May 22, 2008 at 03:46:29PM +0100, Dark Nebula wrote: > [ python does not find "pygtk" and "gtk" ] > [ ... ] > *I have a lot of packages installed for python: > [...] > ii python-gtk2 2.12.1-3 > ii python-gtk2-dev 2.12.1-3 > [...] these two should already be sufficient for gtk-support > Someone have ideia how to solve this problem(s) ? What is the output, when you start "python" and do import sys print sys.path ? That will print the list of directories, where python looks for its modules. There you should have the files "pygtk.py" and "pygtk.pyc" (the .py-File is the source code, ths .pyc is already precompiled). On my machine, these files are in /var/lib/python-support/python2.4/pygtk.py[c] If theses files are missing, try reinstalling python-gtk2. HTH, Axel -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Debian secure by default?
Todd A. Jacobs wrote: On Fri, May 16, 2008 at 08:20:07PM -0700, Mike Bird wrote: snip What I really want to know is why the original poster can't just "aptitude install firestarter" or similar, and scratch his own itch? That seems simple and painless enough to me, without needing more exotic solutions. In defense of the OP: Rico Secada wrote: I am sorry but I had gotten my hands on a document with some outdated information about some default tools being unsafe with Debian because they had SUID set. Sorry all. So, this has been corrected by him when he realized that the data he was complaining about was no longer valid. -- Damon L. Chesser [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.linkedin.com/in/dchesser -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Image compression
On Wed, 21 May 2008 22:50:56 -0500, Mumia W.. wrote: > On 05/21/2008 03:02 PM, Hendrik Boom wrote: >> I've noticed that some 40K byte jpeg files are very good, as good as >> ones ten times the size, and that others are awful. The question >> naturally arises about the proper way to further compress the large >> images to save disk space. >> >> What image compression programs have people found to give good results? >> >> And to what extent is good image quality the result of the algorithms >> that display the image, adjusting image size to screen size and >> resolution and the like? >> >> -- hendrik >> >> >> > First, you can't recompress JPEGs without degrading them permanently, so > don't do that unless you don't care about the data. I'm aware of this. It's a damage/disk-space/processing-time tradeoff. > Second, I've heard that progressive JPEG compression can outperform > "normal" JPEG compression, so you're probably witnessing the advantage > of progressive JPEGs. The program cjpeg (part of libjpeg-progs in > Debian) can create progressive JPEGs. Thanks. I'll try it out sometime. I google for "progressive jpeg" and find http://www.faqs.org/faqs/jpeg- faq/part2/section-15.html, which tells me that there's also jpegtrans, which losslessly converts between baseline and progressive JPEGs. So if progressive really outperforms baseline, It may have to do with the orograms that implement it rather than any inherent capability of the two file formats. Unless there's a lot of useless overhead in the baseline format, but I can't see compression experts designing useless overhead. > > HTH -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: blogging - alternative packages
Simon Jolle wrote: On 5/22/08, Todd A. Jacobs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Less snarky answer: Try nanoblogger, blosxom, pyblosxom, or tiddlywiki. This is very much a YMMV issue. YMMV? Your Mileage May Vary -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Re: Exim4 debugging - MX records point to non-existent hosts
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System umstellen i386->AMD64
Tach Netzgemeinde, Ich möchte mein i386 stable gerne auf die amd64 architektur umstellen. Ist das ohne Neuinstallation möglich? Ich möchte meine mühsam erarbeiteten Systemeinstellungen nur ungern verlieren. Gibt es evtl. sogar ein brauchbares HowTo dafür? Meine eigenen Google-Recherchen waren bislang leider erfolglos. Danke schonmal, Arnd -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Python problems with a lot of applications.
* *Hi, with those commands i get:* [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ python Python 2.5.2 (r252:60911, Apr 5 2008, 16:44:07) [GCC 4.2.3 (Debian 4.2.3-3)] on linux2 Type "help", "copyright", "credits" or "license" for more information. >>> import sys >>> print sys.path ['', '/usr/local/lib/python25.zip', '/usr/local/lib/python2.5', '/usr/local/lib/python2.5/plat-linux2', '/usr/local/lib/python2.5/lib-tk', '/usr/local/lib/python2.5/lib-dynload', '/usr/local/lib/python2.5/site-packages'] >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ ls -l /usr/share/python-support/python-gobject/pygtk.py -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 2946 2008-05-16 13:29 /usr/share/python-support/python-gobject/pygtk.py [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ * [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ ls /var/lib/python-support python2.4 python2.5 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ * [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ find /var/lib/python-support -name pygtk.pyc /var/lib/python-support/python2.5/pygtk.pyc /var/lib/python-support/python2.4/pygtk.pyc [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ * thanks Daniel Burrows wrote: On Thu, May 22, 2008 at 03:46:29PM +0100, Dark Nebula <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> was heard to say: I have a lot of "applications" broken, and seems the problem is all the same, i suppose. for example when i try launch the applet "gmail-notify" i get: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ gmail-notify Traceback (most recent call last): File "./notifier.py", line 4, in import pygtk ImportError: No module named pygtk [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ [sbip] ii python-gobject2.14.1-6 Python bindings for the GObject library ii python-gobject-dev2.14.1-6 Development headers for the GObject Python b [snip] Does the file /usr/share/python-support/python-gobject/pygtk.py exist on your system? What do these commands output? ls /var/lib/python-support find /var/lib/python-support name pygtk.pyc Daniel -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Oops (was: System umstellen i386->AMD64)
Sorry, wrong list. Arnd -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: blogging - alternative packages
On Thu, 22 May 2008 12:47:35 +0200 "Simon Jolle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hello Simon, > YMMV? Short hand for "Your Mileage May Vary". -- Regards _ / ) "The blindingly obvious is / _)radnever immediately apparent" You never listen to a word that I said Public Image - Public Image Ltd signature.asc Description: PGP signature
enabling cgi-scripts in apatche
following the alternative blogging thread, I installed blosxom. I am supposed to go to /localhost/cgi-bin and see my blog post. I do not have a cgi-bin directory in /var/www. I do have a cgi-bin in /usr/lib/cgi-bin. I copied /usr/lib/cgi-bin to /var/www/cgi-bin and it contains: ||blosxom htsearch pyblosxom.cgi qtest However, I can not access it via http: http://localhost/cgi-bin/ gives Forbidden. permissions are the same as the other files in my /var/www dir and I have even set them to 777 (just as a test) and no joy. drwxr-xr-x 7 root root 4096 2008-05-22 11:12 . drwxr-xr-x 15 root root 4096 2008-05-06 17:14 .. drwxr-xr-x 3 root root 4096 2008-05-22 10:18 blosxom drwxrwxrwx 2 root root 4096 2008-05-22 11:12 cgi-bin drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 2008-05-20 10:00 htdig drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 2008-05-22 10:18 pyblosxom drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 2008-05-06 18:21 twfortherestofus_files -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 509605 2008-05-06 18:20 twfortherestofus.html -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 26084 2008-01-24 22:33 twilite.tar.gz -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 434002 2008-05-06 18:32 twwiki.html what am I overlooking or don't know that I need to know to get cgi-scripts working? -- Damon L. Chesser [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.linkedin.com/in/dchesser -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Network Manager problems
On Thu, May 22, 2008 at 1:38 AM, Todd A. Jacobs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > If you always want to use eth0, I'd drop NetworkManager altogether and > just set things up in /etc/network/interfaces so that eth0 is > auto-started. If you need to do something more automagical, I've found > that ifplugd works pretty well, too. Thanks, I've removed NetworkManager and edited /etc/network/interfaces appropriately and everything is great now! Cheers Adam -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Network Manager problems
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Re: OT: C++ help
On Thu May 22 2008 06:34:27 Jordi Gutiérrez Hermoso wrote: > On 21/05/2008, Mike Bird <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Wed May 21 2008 20:01:10 Jordi Gutiérrez Hermoso wrote: > > > So what's the fix here? Why does a using A::f declaration inside class > > > B not work? > > > > There's no f(int) in scope, only int(foo). > > No, no, wait. This makes no sense. Consider (two example programs snipped) > The *only* thing that changed is the access specifiers. For some > reason, the name lookup works and it seems that the compiler > understands that "using A::f" means "A::f(int)" when some function is > public but fails when the function is private, and tries instead to > interpret "using A::f" as "A::f(C)". The first example fails to > compile, but the second one does. The first thing to note is that neither of these is your original example, so it would be better if you had written "the *only* difference between the two examples above is the access specifiers". You then complain that it doesn't work when you try to "using" a private function. Had you quoted the compiler's message to you, which was probably "error: ‘virtual void A::f(foo)’ is private", it would be immediately obvious that EITHER you know nothing of C++ INCLUSIVE OR you're deliberately wasting bandwidth on this list. > > But the best solution is to read up on WHY C++ works this way so > > you can understand the implications that thousands of great minds > > have already pondered. > > Well, those great minds seem to be too great for me to fathom, because > I really don't see why it seems here that a function's signature isn't > enough to specify it, and they saw it fit to make sure I couldn't both > I overload and inherit three related but different functions. Exactly. Overload ambiguities are resolved in scope, not beyond. > C++ isn't perfect, the standard isn't gospel, and I'm beginning to > suspect a bug in gcc. Please stop now. Thousands of people, some of them much smarter than you or I, have not only decided that C++ should do this (which could be a bug) but explained at great length and in great detail why C++ works this way (thus showing that it is not a bug). You have been given a precise reference to a good example of such an explanation but you ignore it. This was offtopic anyway. Please do your homework and then if you still have questions address them to a C++ forum. --Mike Bird -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
97% use of / system
Hello My / partition is some 12GB and I see that it is currently 97% full. How can I clean this out without trashing important files? What should I be looking for in terms of likely culprits that can be deep-sixed safely? Thanks Andy -- "If they can get you asking the wrong questions, they don't have to worry about the answers." - Thomas Pynchon, "Gravity's Rainbow" -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Python problems with a lot of applications.
Hi Dark,
On Thu, May 22, 2008 at 04:48:32PM +0100, Dark Nebula wrote:
>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ python
> Python 2.5.2 (r252:60911, Apr 5 2008, 16:44:07)
> [GCC 4.2.3 (Debian 4.2.3-3)] on linux2
> Type "help", "copyright", "credits" or "license" for more information.
> >>> import sys
> >>> print sys.path
> ['', '/usr/local/lib/python25.zip', '/usr/local/lib/python2.5',
> '/usr/local/lib/python2.5/plat-linux2',
> '/usr/local/lib/python2.5/lib-tk',
> '/usr/local/lib/python2.5/lib-dynload',
> '/usr/local/lib/python2.5/site-packages']
> >>>
That's strange - on my machine, everything is installed in /usr/lib, not in
/usr/local/lib. Nevertheless, the path is missing, the modules seem to be
installed.
If you do in python
import sys
sys.path.append("/var/lib/python-support/python2.5/")
sys.path.append("/usr/lib/python-support/python2.5/")
import pygtk
python should import pygtk, and everything should work.
To make this setting permanent, add the lines
/var/lib/python-support/python2.5
gtk-2.0
/var/lib/python-support/python2.5/gtk-2.0
to the file
/usr/local/lib/python2.5/site-packages/python-support.pth (if it does not exist
already, create it)
This file should be sourced each time python is executed.
But: probably, you should reinstall python, because on my machine, python is
installed in /usr, and not in /usr/local. Do you have /usr/bin/python2.5? What
happens, if you start it, and execute the
import sys
print sys.path
import pygtk
then?
Axel
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Re: 97% use of / system
On Thu May 22 2008 09:56:23 andy wrote: > My / partition is some 12GB and I see that it is currently 97% full. How > can I clean this out without trashing important files? What should I be > looking for in terms of likely culprits that can be deep-sixed safely? I dunno, what have you been downloading? Movies? Music? Games? Debian doesn't accumulate much trash or cache. I'd run "apt-get clean" first but that's unlikely to recover a significant fraction of 12GB. An algorithm that sometimes works is to: cd /home du -x --max-depth=1 | sort -n | tail cd into the subdirectory with the largest number du -x --max-depth=1 | sort -n | tail cd into the subdirectory with the largest number until you find something you want to delete. (The first "du" will probably require several minutes. Subsequent "du"s will be faster.) If that doesn't find what you need, try again but starting with "cd /" instead of "cd /home". --Mike Bird -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: 97% use of / system
andy wrote: > My / partition is some 12GB and I see that it is currently 97% full. > How can I clean this out without trashing important files? What > should I be looking for in terms of likely culprits that can be > deep-sixed safely? When I do my yearly spring cleaning, I use deborphan and cruft to find packages and files I don't need anymore. pgpFROXerABZt.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: 97% use of / system
andy wrote: Hello My / partition is some 12GB and I see that it is currently 97% full. How can I clean this out without trashing important files? What should I be looking for in terms of likely culprits that can be deep-sixed safely? Thanks Andy Trying running "aptitude clean" Sam -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: 97% use of / system
On Thu, May 22, 2008 at 12:56 PM, andy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hello > > My / partition is some 12GB and I see that it is currently 97% full. How can > I clean this out without trashing important files? What should I be looking > for in terms of likely culprits that can be deep-sixed safely? > > Thanks > > Andy > > -- > > "If they can get you asking the wrong questions, they don't have to worry > about the answers." - Thomas Pynchon, "Gravity's Rainbow" > > > -- > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject > of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > try with this: # apt-get clean and then verify the free space with: df -h cheers, -- "Content precedes design. Design in the absence of content is not design, it's decoration." -- Jeffrey Zeldman -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: 97% use of / system
andy wrote: Hello My / partition is some 12GB and I see that it is currently 97% full. How can I clean this out without trashing important files? What should I be looking for in terms of likely culprits that can be deep-sixed safely? Thanks Andy Run a du -Sx | sort -n | less to see what directory is holding the most stuff. That reports directories separately, without subdirectory totals included. The biggest ones are at the bottom. -- Patrick Draper |Don't |[EMAIL PROTECTED] Austin, Texas|Fear |Father Order runs at a http://www.pdrap.org |The|good pace, but old Mother Be Microsoft Free - Use Linux|Penguin|Chaos is winning the race. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: 97% use of / system
On Thu, 22 May 2008, andy wrote: Hello My / partition is some 12GB and I see that it is currently 97% full. How can I clean this out without trashing important files? What should I be looking for in terms of likely culprits that can be deep-sixed safely? We'll need to know a little more about you machine's total partitioning scheme. Where is /home and /var? These are the partitions that tend to have storage of variable files in them and may need to have their own paritition (depending upon the machine's use). -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: 97% use of / system
andy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > My / partition is some 12GB and I see that it is currently 97% > full. How can I clean this out without trashing important files? What > should I be looking for in terms of likely culprits that can be > deep-sixed safely? cd / du -h -s * then drill down to the big directories and repeat. If it's a server, pay special attention to /var/log but 12Gb is a lot of logs, and it sounds like you are a desktop user, in which case the space is probably movies or something in a home directory. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: OT: C++ help
On 22/05/2008, Mike Bird <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Thu May 22 2008 06:34:27 Jordi Gutiérrez Hermoso wrote: > > The first thing to note is that neither of these is your original > example, so it would be better if you had written "the *only* > difference between the two examples above is the access specifiers". The only difference is I added a "using A::f" > You then complain that it doesn't work when you try to "using" a > private function. No, I am "using" a function that is both overloaded to private and public. But the compiler gets confused depending on the access specifier. Why should it attempt to use the private function when the access specifier is public but will happily use the public function when the access specifier is public? You keep talking about scope. The access specifier should affect scope and name resolution? This does not make sense! The public function is available, a using declaration should bring that function from A's scope into B's scope, but the compiler tries to resolve the call "b.f(a)" call to the inaccessible private function anyways. Why should this make sense? For the record, both of the snippets above compile on the Comeau C++ compiler, furthering my suspicion that this is a gcc bug. > Had you quoted the compiler's message to you, > which was probably "error: 'virtual void A::f(foo)' is private", I thought you could easily run the programs yourself and see the compiler error for yourself. > it would be immediately obvious that EITHER you know nothing of C++ > INCLUSIVE OR you're deliberately wasting bandwidth on this list. No, I'm just loudmouthed, just as much as you are, and I yell a little less, too ;-) > > > But the best solution is to read up on WHY C++ works this way so > > > you can understand the implications that thousands of great minds > > > have already pondered. > > > > Well, those great minds seem to be too great for me to fathom, because > > I really don't see why it seems here that a function's signature isn't > > enough to specify it, and they saw it fit to make sure I couldn't both > > I overload and inherit three related but different functions. > > > Exactly. Overload ambiguities are resolved in scope, not beyond. Why do g++ and Comeau disagree here? Shouldn't the using declaration bring A's functions into scope? Why is it that supposedly bringing them into scope still results in g++ trying to call the inaccessible private function and that making that inaccessible private function public suddenly results in g++ calling the right function that was public all along? > Thousands of people, some of them much smarter than > you or I, have not only decided that C++ should do this (which could > be a bug) but explained at great length and in great detail why C++ > works this way (thus showing that it is not a bug). Bah. Thousands of people could never be wrong, eh? Anyways, I don't think this is thousands of people being wrong, but just the g++ devs making a small mistake. > You have been given a precise reference to a good example of such an > explanation but you ignore it. Inaccessible. I don't have that book, and it's not in my local library. > This was offtopic anyway. I labelled it as such, so that those who didn't want to read about it could ignore it. > if you still have questions address them to a C++ forum. I've done that, but I thought I could pick the brains of Debian users anyways. If your brain is not available for picking, then just ignore this thread. - Jordi G. H. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Tab in Java
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Re: OT: C++ help
On Thu May 22 2008 10:49:25 Jordi Gutiérrez Hermoso wrote: > You keep talking about scope. The access specifier should affect scope > and name resolution? This does not make sense! The public function is > available, a using declaration should bring that function from A's > scope into B's scope, but the compiler tries to resolve the call > "b.f(a)" call to the inaccessible private function anyways. No it doesn't. The error message, which you keep failing to post, would be for the line of the "using", indicating that you're attempting to "using" a private function. This is not the same as trying "to resolve the call". You are creating a permanent record of your very uninformed status, and teaching you basic C++ programming is off-topic for this list. Please stop. Go study the issue. If you have questions post them to a C++ list. --Mike Bird -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: 97% use of / system
On Thu, May 22, 2008 10:16 am, Sam Leon wrote: > andy wrote: > Trying running "aptitude clean" "aptitude autoclean" is a better suggestion. Clean removes all cached deb files. Autoclean removes all old cached deb files while retaining the most current cached files in case they're needed. Suggesting clean might remove files they will need while suggesting will leave them with those files while removing the files they most likely will not need. -- Steve Lamb -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Python problems with a lot of applications.
hallo Axel,
yes i have the file:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ ls -l /usr/bin/python2.5
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 1174932 2008-05-15 18:36 /usr/bin/python2.5
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$
the import seems ok:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ python
Python 2.5.2 (r252:60911, Apr 5 2008, 16:44:07)
[GCC 4.2.3 (Debian 4.2.3-3)] on linux2
Type "help", "copyright", "credits" or "license" for more information.
>>> import sys
>>> sys.path.append("/var/lib/python-support/python2.5/")
>>> sys.path.append("/var/lib/python-support/python2.5/")
>>> import pygtk
>>> quit()
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ /usr/bin/python2.5
Python 2.5.2 (r252:60911, May 15 2008, 17:59:19)
[GCC 4.3.1 20080501 (prerelease)] on linux2
Type "help", "copyright", "credits" or "license" for more information.
>>> import sys
>>> print sys.path
['', '/usr/lib/python25.zip', '/usr/lib/python2.5',
'/usr/lib/python2.5/plat-linux2', '/usr/lib/python2.5/lib-tk',
'/usr/lib/python2.5/lib-dynload',
'/usr/local/lib/python2.5/site-packages',
'/usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages',
'/usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/Numeric',
'/usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/PIL',
'/usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/gst-0.10',
'/var/lib/python-support/python2.5',
'/var/lib/python-support/python2.5/gtk-2.0']
>>> import pygtk
>>>
>>> quit()
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$
the result is :
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ gmail-notify
Traceback (most recent call last):
File "./notifier.py", line 4, in
import pygtk
ImportError: No module named pygtk
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$
i tryed reintall python2.5 with:
Koad:~# apt-get --reinstall install python2.5
but the same error
:(
Axel Freyn wrote:
Hi Dark,
On Thu, May 22, 2008 at 04:48:32PM +0100, Dark Nebula wrote:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ python
Python 2.5.2 (r252:60911, Apr 5 2008, 16:44:07)
[GCC 4.2.3 (Debian 4.2.3-3)] on linux2
Type "help", "copyright", "credits" or "license" for more information.
import sys
print sys.path
['', '/usr/local/lib/python25.zip', '/usr/local/lib/python2.5',
'/usr/local/lib/python2.5/plat-linux2',
'/usr/local/lib/python2.5/lib-tk',
'/usr/local/lib/python2.5/lib-dynload',
'/usr/local/lib/python2.5/site-packages']
That's strange - on my machine, everything is installed in /usr/lib, not in
/usr/local/lib. Nevertheless, the path is missing, the modules seem to be
installed.
If you do in python
import sys
sys.path.append("/var/lib/python-support/python2.5/")
sys.path.append("/usr/lib/python-support/python2.5/")
import pygtk
python should import pygtk, and everything should work.
To make this setting permanent, add the lines
/var/lib/python-support/python2.5
gtk-2.0
/var/lib/python-support/python2.5/gtk-2.0
to the file
/usr/local/lib/python2.5/site-packages/python-support.pth (if it does not exist
already, create it)
This file should be sourced each time python is executed.
But: probably, you should reinstall python, because on my machine, python is
installed in /usr, and not in /usr/local. Do you have /usr/bin/python2.5? What
happens, if you start it, and execute the
import sys
print sys.path
import pygtk
then?
Axel
Re: Python problems with a lot of applications.
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 05/22/08 12:11, Axel Freyn wrote: > Hi Dark, > On Thu, May 22, 2008 at 04:48:32PM +0100, Dark Nebula wrote: >> [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ python >> Python 2.5.2 (r252:60911, Apr 5 2008, 16:44:07) >> [GCC 4.2.3 (Debian 4.2.3-3)] on linux2 >> Type "help", "copyright", "credits" or "license" for more information. > import sys > print sys.path >> ['', '/usr/local/lib/python25.zip', '/usr/local/lib/python2.5', >> '/usr/local/lib/python2.5/plat-linux2', >> '/usr/local/lib/python2.5/lib-tk', >> '/usr/local/lib/python2.5/lib-dynload', >> '/usr/local/lib/python2.5/site-packages'] >> > That's strange - on my machine, everything is installed in /usr/lib, not in Not strange if he's installed non-Debian stuff. So, the question is: what non-Debian stuff have you installed? - -- Ron Johnson, Jr. Jefferson LA USA ESPN makes baseball players better. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFINcWmS9HxQb37XmcRAqxkAJwLB4s2EPGRAJmSLIrUpe0XxYkyLQCgwDwO wD9Qre6zDWEHJ28+bCdn7Ek= =lGy7 -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Python problems with a lot of applications.
hallo Ron, The only package that i installed "by hand" is Vadafone mobile card driver that uses python yes, but this application runs ok. I install via dpkg the *.deb . Ron Johnson wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 05/22/08 12:11, Axel Freyn wrote: Hi Dark, On Thu, May 22, 2008 at 04:48:32PM +0100, Dark Nebula wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ python Python 2.5.2 (r252:60911, Apr 5 2008, 16:44:07) [GCC 4.2.3 (Debian 4.2.3-3)] on linux2 Type "help", "copyright", "credits" or "license" for more information. import sys print sys.path ['', '/usr/local/lib/python25.zip', '/usr/local/lib/python2.5', '/usr/local/lib/python2.5/plat-linux2', '/usr/local/lib/python2.5/lib-tk', '/usr/local/lib/python2.5/lib-dynload', '/usr/local/lib/python2.5/site-packages'] That's strange - on my machine, everything is installed in /usr/lib, not in Not strange if he's installed non-Debian stuff. So, the question is: what non-Debian stuff have you installed? - -- Ron Johnson, Jr. Jefferson LA USA ESPN makes baseball players better. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFINcWmS9HxQb37XmcRAqxkAJwLB4s2EPGRAJmSLIrUpe0XxYkyLQCgwDwO wD9Qre6zDWEHJ28+bCdn7Ek= =lGy7 -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
sid: USB-stick - /dev/disk/by-id/ not populated
Hi all, I have one daily updated sid system running, which doesn't populate the /dev/disk/by-id/ path for an connecting USB-stick (w32 FAT) as it is done by my other sid systems. (it only shows up as eg /dev/uba1) I compared the /etc/udev/rules.d/ contents and they look very similar, e.g. persistent.rules is identical. Which rule/file is responsible for populating the /dev/disk/by-id/ path. How can I debug what's going on? I suspect it might be some left over cfg from older udev-releases or so, because the system is very old / always being upgraded from sarge/or older. TIA for any hints, Bruno -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Image comparison
On Thu, 22 May 2008 01:23:48 +, Hendrik Boom wrote: > On Wed, 21 May 2008 23:15:39 +0100, Joe wrote: > >> findimagedupes > > Looks good. I'll try it. > > -- hendrik It works! Thank you. -- hendrik -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: strange chars in xterm
Francis Earl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > On Tuesday 20 May 2008 4:01:49 michael wrote: > > If I run > > xterm -e ssh [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > or > > gnome-terminal -x ssh [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > from my Debian box "rat", then I get some strange chars in the manual > > pages on the 'hpc' machine, eg for `man bash` the pipe char "|" comes > > out as an "a" with a hat (^) above it (see attached screenshot) but I > > can't see why this is happening. > > > > If I, from a gnome-terminal just run > > ssh [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > then all is fine. And if I login to hpc from any other box, or it seems > > login to any other box from "rat" then the chars appear as normal, as > > What version of Debian is this? Why aren't you using UTF8? ?!? What does utf8 have to do with this? This isn't multilingual translation. It's English to English. -- Any technology distinguishable from magic is insufficiently advanced. (*)http://blinkynet.net/comp/uip5.html Linux Counter #80292 - -http://www.faqs.org/rfcs/rfc1855.htmlPlease, don't Cc: me. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: 97% use of / system
On Thu, May 22, 2008 at 6:56 PM, andy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hello > > My / partition is some 12GB and I see that it is currently 97% full. How > can I clean this out without trashing important files? What should I be > looking for in terms of likely culprits that can be deep-sixed safely? If you are running a desktop computer, you could probe baobab program
Re: strange chars in xterm
On Thu, 2008-05-22 at 23:04 +0200, s. keeling wrote: > Francis Earl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > > > On Tuesday 20 May 2008 4:01:49 michael wrote: > > > If I run > > > xterm -e ssh [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > or > > > gnome-terminal -x ssh [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > from my Debian box "rat", then I get some strange chars in the manual > > > pages on the 'hpc' machine, eg for `man bash` the pipe char "|" comes > > > out as an "a" with a hat (^) above it (see attached screenshot) but I > > > can't see why this is happening. > > > > > > If I, from a gnome-terminal just run > > > ssh [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > then all is fine. And if I login to hpc from any other box, or it seems > > > login to any other box from "rat" then the chars appear as normal, as > > > > What version of Debian is this? Why aren't you using UTF8? > > ?!? What does utf8 have to do with this? This isn't multilingual > translation. It's English to English. I've no idea either... but it did work I'm still confused as to why! Thanks, Michael -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Tab in Java
2008/5/22 Michelle Konzack <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: >> Surely though there is some software that allows you to control the mouse >> via the keyboard? > > It is already there... You can control the Mouse with the > Number-KeyPad and it works from scratch in Sarge and up. > So now all I need is to add a number keypad to this laptop and I'll be set! Actually, I _can_ use the mouse, only it is uncomfortable and sometimes painful. Dotan Cohen http://what-is-what.com http://gibberish.co.il א-ב-ג-ד-ה-ו-ז-ח-ט-י-ך-כ-ל-ם-מ-ן-נ-ס-ע-ף-פ-ץ-צ-ק-ר-ש-ת A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing?
Problem with changing symbolic link to shared library
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Re: Tab in Java
Michelle Konzack on 21/05/08 22:11, wrote: Am 2008-05-18 18:22:25, schrieb Adam Hardy: Surely though there is some software that allows you to control the mouse via the keyboard? END OF REPLIED MESSAGE It is already there... You can control the Mouse with the Number-KeyPad and it works from scratch in Sarge and up. Just in Java though I guess? I can't believe xfce allows me to do that - in fact I know it doesn't, I just tried :) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: 97% use of / system
On Thu, May 22, 2008 at 11:21:15AM -0700, Steve Lamb wrote: > On Thu, May 22, 2008 10:16 am, Sam Leon wrote: > > andy wrote: > > Trying running "aptitude clean" > > "aptitude autoclean" is a better suggestion. Clean removes all cached > deb files. Autoclean removes all old cached deb files while retaining > the most current cached files in case they're needed. Suggesting clean > might remove files they will need while suggesting will leave them with > those files while removing the files they most likely will not need. While that is accurate as far as it goes... How likely is the average user to ever need the cached debs? Personally, I've been running Debian continuously for nearly a decade (that long already? sheesh...) and I have never had use for a cached deb for anything except: 1) Installing to a second machine without redownloading (although, really, I've been far more likely to just redownload on the second machine) 2) Noticing that I messed up an option during the package install and deciding to uninstall/reinstall rather than fixing the initial install I also seem to recall seeing a thread recently which asked what the cached debs are good for. Nobody suggested anything that didn't fall into those two catgories. Realistically, if you're not going to install to additional machines and it's been more than a day or two since you installed a package (to provide time to notice any install/configuration problems), the odds of needing the deb again are pretty much nil. Using "clean" instead of "autoclean" will be fine in the large majority of cases. -- News aggregation meets world domination. Can you see the fnews? http://seethefnews.com/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Monitor CPU temperature in a Supermicro X6DH8-XG2
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Re: 97% use of / system
On Thu, 22 May 2008 18:05:42 -0500 Dave Sherohman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: ... > Personally, I've been running Debian continuously for nearly a decade > (that long already? sheesh...) and I have never had use for a cached > deb for anything except: ... > 2) Noticing that I messed up an option during the package install and > deciding to uninstall/reinstall rather than fixing the initial install Why not just dpkg-reconfigure, with the same priority used by the installer? You'll get asked the same questions that you would get asked in a reinstall. Celejar -- mailmin.sourceforge.net - remote access via secure (OpenPGP) email ssuds.sourceforge.net - A Simple Sudoku Solver and Generator -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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what happened to xon?
I run Debian testing and have upgraded many packages recently. After the upgrade I noticed that the xon(1) utility has gone. It has been part of the xutils package before. That package also contained a number of other tools which seem to have been moved to other packages named x11-*, but no package contains xon anymore. Is this a bug or intended? urs -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
keep hidden files hidden in gui apps (iceweasel, xpdf)
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Re: 97% use of / system
On Thu, May 22, 2008 at 06:05:42PM -0500, Dave Sherohman wrote: > > Realistically, if you're not going to install to additional machines and > it's been more than a day or two since you installed a package (to > provide time to notice any install/configuration problems), the odds of > needing the deb again are pretty much nil. Using "clean" instead of > "autoclean" will be fine in the large majority of cases. > For those cases where you need to install debs on machines which are not connected to the net or have slow connection/limited bandwidth, dpkg-repack is your friend. I use it regularly and it is a whole lot easier than downloading packages again. Regards, -- Sridhar M.A. GPG KeyID : F6A35935 Fingerprint: D172 22C4 7CDC D9CD 62B5 55C1 2A69 D5D8 F6A3 5935 Felson's Law: To steal ideas from one person is plagiarism; to steal from many is research. signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: 97% use of / system
Dave Sherohman wrote: > While that is accurate as far as it goes... How likely is the average > user to ever need the cached debs? [ snippage ] > Realistically, if you're not going to install to additional machines and > it's been more than a day or two since you installed a package (to > provide time to notice any install/configuration problems), the odds of > needing the deb again are pretty much nil. Using "clean" instead of > "autoclean" will be fine in the large majority of cases. Y'know, I had a long reply here basically arguing one against the other, one being safer than the other. Then I decided to test the theory on my own machines since I had not done autoclean/clean in a while... [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~} du -sh /var/cache/apt/archives 732M/var/cache/apt/archives [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# aptitude autoclean Freed 0B of disk space [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# du -sh /var/cache/apt/archives 740M/var/cache/apt/archives [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# aptitude autoclean Freed 0B of disk space [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~} du -sh /var/cache/apt/archives [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# aptitude autoclean Freed 0B of disk space [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# Apparently cron.daily/apt is firing off autoclean by default as it is because I haven't done it in quite a few days. Which means offering autoclean as a first step is kinda pointless and nets nothing. Go fig. Carry on. -- Steve C. Lamb | But who decides what they dream? PGP Key: 1FC01004 | And dream I do... ---+- signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: Tab in Java
Adam Hardy wrote: Michelle Konzack on 21/05/08 22:11, wrote: Am 2008-05-18 18:22:25, schrieb Adam Hardy: Surely though there is some software that allows you to control the mouse via the keyboard? END OF REPLIED MESSAGE It is already there... You can control the Mouse with the Number-KeyPad and it works from scratch in Sarge and up. Just in Java though I guess? I can't believe xfce allows me to do that - in fact I know it doesn't, I just tried :) Not, not just in Java. And yes, xfce4 does allow this (I just tested it). But, (and here's probably where your problem is), the feature has to be activated. You can activate/deactivate mouse-keys with Shift-NumLock (you should hear a speaker beep). Now your number-pad should function as a mouse-controller. -- Kent West Westing Peacefully - http://kentwest.blogspot.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: 97% use of / system
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> My / partition is some 12GB and I see that it is currently 97% full. How
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> looking for in terms of likely culprits that can be deep-sixed safely?
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> Thanks
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> Andy
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Logs and temps, look cleaning your aptitude cache ;)
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Re: Tab in Java
Kent West wrote: Michelle Konzack on 21/05/08 22:11, wrote: It is already there... You can control the Mouse with the Number-KeyPad and it works from scratch in Sarge and up. You can activate/deactivate mouse-keys with Shift-NumLock (you should hear a speaker beep). Now your number-pad should function as a mouse-controller. Oh, I meant to add: It's an X thing, not dependent on the window manager/environment. -- Kent West Westing Peacefully - http://kentwest.blogspot.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: what happened to xon?
On 2008-05-22 23:25 +0200, Urs Thuermann wrote: > I run Debian testing and have upgraded many packages recently. After > the upgrade I noticed that the xon(1) utility has gone. It has been > part of the xutils package before. That package also contained a > number of other tools which seem to have been moved to other packages > named x11-*, but no package contains xon anymore. > > Is this a bug or intended? Seems to be a bug, namely http://bugs.debian.org/456997. BTW, the BTS is generally the first place to look in case of such problems. Sven -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: kernel update breaks network
Thanks for all the replies. I'll look at this next time. Unfortunately I can't mess with this server now - it's a production box... --kj -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: 97% use of / system
Hello My / partition is some 12GB and I see that it is currently 97% full. How can I clean this out without trashing important files? What should I be looking for in terms of likely culprits that can be deep-sixed safely? Thanks Andy try with this: # apt-get clean and then verify the free space with: df -h cheers, Hello all Thanks for the slew of rapid responses. Apologies for not giving sufficient info on my partitioning scheme. Here's the scoop: / = 12GB SWAP = 2.8GB /home = 168GB No separate /var /tmp, etc. Having run apt-get clean / is now down to 56%. I suspect that the balance of the usage is in /var with different logs and mail. As an aside, I seem to be missing approx 18GB of HD space - this is a 200GB HD, but adding the values given above totals 182GB. Strange, and I cannot track it down anywhere, and I don't dual-boot, so unless 200GB was listed on the packaging as an approximation, almost 20GB have gone AWOL. Anyway, thanks for the advice on clearing out the cruft. What I may well go and do is manually remove old, archived /var logs just to clear up more space. Cheers all Andy -- "If they can get you asking the wrong questions, they don't have to worry about the answers." - Thomas Pynchon, "Gravity's Rainbow" -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
