how to read http mails in mutt mail reader (vim)?

[hce]

Hi,

I've just installed mutt in Debian, one problem is there are some
mails from news lists with HTTP format, it was fine when I use Mozilla
mail reader, but with mutt and vim, I could not read the HTTP format
mails. One solution I can think of is to use lynx, but I don't know
how to config mutt with lynx. How do you handle this issue?

Thank you.

Jim


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Re: how to read http mails in mutt mail reader (vim)?

[Andy Smith]

Hi Jim,

On Sun, Nov 04, 2007 at 07:31:53PM +1100, hce wrote:
> I've just installed mutt in Debian, one problem is there are some
> mails from news lists with HTTP format, it was fine when I use Mozilla
> mail reader, but with mutt and vim, I could not read the HTTP format
> mails. One solution I can think of is to use lynx, but I don't know
> how to config mutt with lynx. How do you handle this issue?

If you mean HTML, there was a post to Planet Debian on this subject
just yesterday:

http://cord.de/blog/index.php?entry=entry071103-141719

I do it that way too.

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Re: fglrx upgrade to 8.42.3

[Jonathan Kaye]

Davide Mancusi wrote:

> Jonathan Kaye ha scritto:
>> Hi Davide,
>> I've installed it and it's BRILLIANT Three cheers for ATI they've got
>> it right!
>> fgl_glxgears ran around 380fps under 8.39. Now, under 8.42 it's over 500!
>> So I'd say go for it.
>> Cheers,
>> Jonathan
> 
> Thank you all for the feedback. I have tried to install the package
> from the ATI website but I have the same problems (Jonathan — how did
> you install it? Did you ask the installer to build a Debian package?).
> Since I think I might have screwed up something with the diversions and
> with symlinks in /usr/lib, I would be very grateful if anyone with a
> working 8.42.3 installation could post the fglrx-related part of
> /var/lib/dpkg/diversions and the output of
> $ ls -l /usr/lib/libGL*
> $ ls -l /emul/ia32/usr/lib/libGL*  (did I mention I'm on amd64?)
> 
> Thanks again!
> 
> Davide
> 
Hi Davide,
Here's how I did it:
1. Remove all fglrx packages currently installed.
2. as root or using sudo
  a. go to /usr/src/modules and rm -r fglrx
  b. if you an flgrx-kernel .deb file in /usr/src, delete it.
Now to build the new driver.
1. Go to the folder where you have downloaded the
ati-driver-installer-8.42.3-x86.x86_64.run file
2. Make sure the file is executable
3. As root or using sudo
  a. #./ati-driver-installer-8.42.3-x86.x86_64.run --buildpkg Debian/lenny
  b. dpkg -i [and at least these 2 .debs] fglrx-driver_8.42.3-1_i386.deb 
fglrx-kernel-src_8.42.3-1_i386.deb
 you can install all the debs if you like.
  c. Now you use module assistant to build the modules
 #m-a a-i fglrx
  d. modprobe -v fglrx
  e. make sure that the driver for your card is "fglrx"
You will have to stop the x-server and then restart it. In fact I had to
reboot (aaarhhh) in order for the module to install correctly. Try
running fglrxinfo and you should see something like this:
display: :0.0  screen: 0
OpenGL vendor string: ATI Technologies Inc.
OpenGL renderer string: ATI Radeon 9550 / X1050 Series
OpenGL version string: 2.0.6958 Release

Then you know your driver is correctly installed. Also you can try running
fgl_glxgears.

I tried Elimar's suggestion (using xorg's "radeon" driver) but I couldn't
get it to work with 3D acceleration.
Hope this helps.
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Re: Intel Deluxe PC Camera

[Jonathan Kaye]

Thierry Chatelet wrote:


> Unless I am mistaking, I read somewhere that spca5xx was for kernel up to
> 2.6.11, for later kernel you need gspca-sources.
> Thierry
I'm using spca5xx-source with 2.6.22 on lenny. I needed it to build a
sn9c102 module.
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Re: fglrx upgrade to 8.42.3

[Davide Mancusi]

Jonathan Kaye ha scritto:

Hi Davide,
Here's how I did it:
1. Remove all fglrx packages currently installed.
2. as root or using sudo
  a. go to /usr/src/modules and rm -r fglrx
  b. if you an flgrx-kernel .deb file in /usr/src, delete it.
Now to build the new driver.
1. Go to the folder where you have downloaded the
ati-driver-installer-8.42.3-x86.x86_64.run file
2. Make sure the file is executable
3. As root or using sudo
  a. #./ati-driver-installer-8.42.3-x86.x86_64.run --buildpkg Debian/lenny


	Thanks again for this simple howto. It was more or less what I tried to 
do myself, but building the package does not work. It fails like this 
(long log follows):


Created directory fglrx-install.zq4758
Verifying archive integrity... All good.
Uncompressing ATI Proprietary Linux 
Driver-8.42.3

==
 ATI Technologies Linux Driver Installer/Packager
==
Generating package: Debian/sid
Package build failed!
Package build utility output:
dpkg-buildpackage: source package fglrx-installer
dpkg-buildpackage: source version 8.42.3-1
dpkg-buildpackage: source changed by ATI Technologies Inc. 


 debian/rules build
dpkg-buildpackage: host architecture amd64
dh_testdir
# move licenses away from binary dir
if [ ! -d usr/share/doc/fglrx ]; then \
  mkdir -p usr/share/doc/fglrx; \
  mv usr/X11R6/bin/LICENSE.* usr/share/doc/fglrx; \
fi
# set executable on user apps
find usr/X11R6/bin -type f | xargs chmod a+x
# remove exec bit from files that don't deserve it
find usr/X11R6/include \
 usr/X11R6/lib \
 usr/X11R6/lib64 \
 usr/share usr/src -type f | xargs chmod -x
find: usr/X11R6/lib: No such file or directory
find lib -not -name "*.sh" -type f | xargs chmod -x
find lib  -name "*.sh" -type f | xargs chmod +x
# set proper permissions on /etc files
if [ -d etc/ati ]; then \
chmod 755 etc/ati ; \
chmod 644 etc/ati/* ;   \
chmod a+x etc/ati/*.sh ;\
fi
if [ -f debian/fglrx.default ]; then \
  mv -v debian/fglrx.default debian/fglrx; \
fi
`debian/fglrx.default' -> `debian/fglrx'
# remove exec bit from 64-bit libs too
find usr/X11R6/lib64   -type f | xargs chmod -x
 debian/rules binary
dh_testdir
# move licenses away from binary dir
if [ ! -d usr/share/doc/fglrx ]; then \
  mkdir -p usr/share/doc/fglrx; \
  mv usr/X11R6/bin/LICENSE.* usr/share/doc/fglrx; \
fi
# set executable on user apps
find usr/X11R6/bin -type f | xargs chmod a+x
# remove exec bit from files that don't deserve it
find usr/X11R6/include \
 usr/X11R6/lib \
 usr/X11R6/lib64 \
 usr/share usr/src -type f | xargs chmod -x
find: usr/X11R6/lib: No such file or directory
find lib -not -name "*.sh" -type f | xargs chmod -x
find lib  -name "*.sh" -type f | xargs chmod +x
# set proper permissions on /etc files
if [ -d etc/ati ]; then \
chmod 755 etc/ati ; \
chmod 644 etc/ati/* ;   \
chmod a+x etc/ati/*.sh ;\
fi
if [ -f debian/fglrx.default ]; then \
  mv -v debian/fglrx.default debian/fglrx; \
fi
# remove exec bit from 64-bit libs too
find usr/X11R6/lib64   -type f | xargs chmod -x
dh_testdir
dh_testroot
dh_clean -k
dh_installdirs
# Create the directories to install into
dh_installdirs -pfglrx-driver \
usr \
usr/lib/xorg \
usr/lib/xorg/modules \
usr/lib/dri \
usr/bin \
usr/sbin \
etc/acpi \
etc/acpi/events \
etc/default \
etc/X11/Xsession.d
# the amd64 package includes 32bit compatibility libraries
dh_installdirs -pfglrx-driver \
emul/ia32-linux/usr/lib \
emul/ia32-linux/usr/lib/xorg \
emul/ia32-linux/usr/lib/xorg/modules \
emul/ia32-linux/usr/lib/dri
dh_installdirs -pfglrx-driver-dev \
usr \
usr/include \
usr/lib
dh_installdirs

sa-learn error message

[Yuriy Padlyak]

I've got this error:

$ sa-learn --spam 1193706642.H221893P4714.tenpostadsl.lviv.farlep.net:2,S
syntax error for eval function GREYLIST_ISWHITE: greylisting("( 'dir' =>
'/var/spool/sa-exim/tuplets'; 'method' => 'dir'; 'greylistsecs' =>
'1800'; 'dontgreylistthreshold' => 11; 'connectiphdr' => ' at
/usr/share/perl5/Mail/SpamAssassin/Conf/Parser.pm line 717.
Learned tokens from 1 message(s) (1 message(s) examined)

Can anyone help me identifying the source of it?
Thank you in advance.

Yuriy


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sa-learn error message

[Yuriy Padlyak]

Hello

I've got this error:

$ sa-learn --spam 1193706642.H221893P4714.tenpostadsl.lviv.farlep.net:2,S
syntax error for eval function GREYLIST_ISWHITE: greylisting("( 'dir' =>
'/var/spool/sa-exim/tuplets'; 'method' => 'dir'; 'greylistsecs' =>
'1800'; 'dontgreylistthreshold' => 11; 'connectiphdr' => ' at
/usr/share/perl5/Mail/SpamAssassin/Conf/Parser.pm line 717.
Learned tokens from 1 message(s) (1 message(s) examined)

Can anyone help me identifying the source of it?
Thank you in advance.

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shutdown problem : acpi_power_off freeze

[Bruno Costacurta]

Hello to all,

when I shutdown my computer it doesn't turn off but freeze with the 
message 'acpi_power_off called'.
However the shutdown was working before I re-config my ALSA sounds (via 
alsaconf) and indeed I have a vague remember reading something in the past 
like acpi has / have some problems with alsa which might block a complete 
shutdown like in my case.

acpid seems correctly start :

ps -ef | grep -i acpi
root15 9  0 11:57 ?00:00:00 [kacpid]
root  2890 1  0 11:57 ?
00:00:00 /usr/sbin/acpid -c /etc/acpi/events -s /var/run/acpid.socket
105   2911  2903  0 11:57 ?00:00:00 hald-addon-acpi: listening on 
acpid socket /var/run/acpid.socket
bruno 3642  3495  0 12:01 pts/100:00:00 grep -i acpi

Thanks for reading and/or any help

Bye,
Bruno


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Re: how to read http mails in mutt mail reader (vim)?

[Kumar Appaiah]

On Sun, Nov 04, 2007 at 08:40:12AM +, Andy Smith wrote:
> On Sun, Nov 04, 2007 at 07:31:53PM +1100, hce wrote:
> > I've just installed mutt in Debian, one problem is there are some
> > mails from news lists with HTTP format, it was fine when I use Mozilla
> > mail reader, but with mutt and vim, I could not read the HTTP format
> > mails. One solution I can think of is to use lynx, but I don't know
> > how to config mutt with lynx. How do you handle this issue?
> 
> If you mean HTML, there was a post to Planet Debian on this subject
> just yesterday:

I think the OP means HTTP links, i.e. URLs in mails.

Since you're on Debian, I'd suggest apt-get install urlview and add
the urlview and add the config to your muttrc like the one in present
in /usr/share/doc/mutt/examples/sample.muttrc.gz, which is:

macro index \cb " urlview" # simulate the old browse-url 
function

HTH.

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How to install simple-ccsm for etch?

[Bogdan Marian]

Hey,

The title says it all. Compiz fusion is running ok on my system but i 
want to customize it :). Simple-ccsm used to be in Shame's repo but it 
isn't anymore. I'm on etch as i mentioned. How do I install simple-ccsm?


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Re: Which browser is better, firefox?

[Hugo Vanwoerkom]

Ron Johnson wrote:

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On 11/03/07 18:59, hce wrote:

Hi,

Is the firefox the best browser?

When I installed the Debian, it automatically included iceweasel. I
removed it and tryed to install firefox by "apt-get install firefox",
but it it got iceweasel gain. How can I install the firefox?


Google knows all, sees all, tells all.

The question you just asked has been asked -- and answered -- by
45,000 other people who also neglected to do the most rudimentary
research before asking your question.



Ron, wait! The 45,000 is true, but the research part is unknown to 
Google and must be gleaned from the question...


Hugo


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Re: Thinkpad T20 wireless troubles - revisited

[Florian Kulzer]

On Sat, Nov 03, 2007 at 20:56:27 -0700, Andrew Sackville-West wrote:
> On Sun, Nov 04, 2007 at 12:46:45AM +0100, Sjoerd Hiemstra wrote:

[...]

> > And still there's the error message 'No DHCPOFFERS received'.
> > And there is some difference with the output of 'iwlist eth0 scan':
> > 
> > # iwlist eth0 scan
> > 
> > Cell 03 - Address: 00:01:E3:55:91:48
> >   ESSID:"SX551559148"
> >   Mode:Master
> >   Frequency:2.432 GHz (channel 5)
> >   Quality=88/100  Signal level=-51 dBm  Noise level:-98 dBm
> >   Encryption key:on
> >   Bit rates: 1 Mb/s; 2 Mb/s; 5.5 Mb/s; 11 Mb/s; 6Mb/s
> >  12 Mb/s; 24 Mb/s; 36 Mb/s
> >   Extra:bcn_int=100
> >   IE: IEEE 802.11i/WPA2 Version 1
> -
> 
> Are yiou using wpasupplicant? Looks like you need to use wpa to
> connect...

Here is an example /etc/network/interfaces snippet which worked for me
about half a year ago (that was at a conference; I have not used WPA
since then):



auto eth1
iface eth1 inet dhcp

wpa-ssid YOUR-ESSID
wpa-key-mgmt WPA-PSK
wpa-pairwise CCMP TKIP
wpa-group TKIP
wpa-psk SOME-LONG-SECRET-STRING
# to generate the wpa-psk string, run: wpa_passphrase YOUR-ESSID YOUR-PASSWORD 



As Andrew has pointed out, you need the wpasupplicant package and its
daemon has to be running. (IIRC, it is started automatically when you
bring up an interface that has wpa-* statements in the interfaces file.)

Based on your "iwlist" output I suspect that you might have to change
the wpa-pairwise line to this:

wpa-pairwise TKIP COMP

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Re: Which browser is better, firefox?

[Hugo Vanwoerkom]

hce wrote:

Hi,

Is the firefox the best browser?



Definitive answer (Google please note!): Firefox == Iceweasel is better 
qua extensions, but Opera "seems" faster. "Seems" in quotes because it 
has to be proven to be so in order to actually be faster...


Hugo


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Re: reading email from gmail account with gnus in Emacs22

[Peter Smerdon]

Alexandru Cardaniuc <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Hi All!
>
> Does anybody here use gnus from Emacs22 to read mail from gmail account?
> I managed to make it work with Emacs21. Recently I tried Emacs22 and my
> old config from Emacs21 doesn't work. I get some errors when fetching
> from gmail with pop.
>
> Did anybody here manage to make gnus in Emacs22 work with gmail? Any
> hints on the configuration of .gnus ?
>
> That's the setup that works fine for Emacs21 but doesn't work for
> Emacs22:
>
>
> ---
>
> (setq user-full-name "Alexandru Cardaniuc")
> (setq user-mail-address "[EMAIL PROTECTED]")
>
> ;; using GNUS to send mail
> (setq message-send-mail-function 'smtpmail-send-it)
>
> (setq send-mail-function 'smtpmail-send-it)
>
> ;; use 'one file per mail' back end
> (setq gnus-select-method '(nnml ""))
> (setq gnus-secondary-select-methods nil)
>
> ;; tell Gnus how to fetch mail
> (setq mail-sources '((file :path "/var/spool/mail/alexandru")
>(pop  :server "pop.gmail.com"
>  :port 995
>  :user "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
>  :connection ssl
>  :password "secret"
>  :leave t))) ; leave the mail on the server
>
> (load-library "smtpmail")
> (load-library "pop3")
> (load-library "starttls")
>
> ;(setq pop3-debug t)
>
> (setq smtpmail-local-domain nil)
>
> ;(setq smtpmail-debug-info t) ; only to debug problems
>
> (setq smtpmail-auth-credentials '(("smtp.gmail.com" 25 "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" 
> "secret")))
> (setq smtpmail-starttls-credentials '(("smtp.gmail.com" 25 nil nil)))
> (setq smtpmail-smtp-service "25")
>

Hello Alexandru,
I use a different set up...
I use fetchmail to pull down my gmail into my system's mail spool and
then gnus reads it from there, when I reply, gnus has to send it through
the gmail server and adjust the From: header.


(defun fs-change-smtp ()
  "Change the SMTP server according to the current from line."
  (save-excursion
(let ((from
   (save-restriction
 (message-narrow-to-headers)
 (message-fetch-field "from"
  (message "From is `%s', setting `smtpmail-smtp-server' to `%s'"
   from
   (cond
((string-match "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" from)
 (setq sendmail-program "msmtp"))
(add-hook 'message-setup-hook 'fs-change-smtp))

You would have to of course install the program msmtp and create a
~/.msmtprc file:

account default
host smtp.gmail.com
auth on
user [EMAIL PROTECTED]
password MYPASSWORD
port 587
tls on
logfile ~/.msmtplog

Not sure if you want to go that route though. You might also try the
gnu.emacs.gnus newsgroup where you would definately get a better answer.

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Sending email using Alpine and gmail

[Peter Tynan]

I'm trying to configure Alpine to send email either using gmails smtp server or 
the local mail-server (exim4 configured to use gmails smtp server via 
smarthost).


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Re: Which browser is better, firefox?

[Arijit Sarkar]

On Sun, 2007-11-04 at 06:53 -0600, Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote:
> hce wrote:
> > Hi,
> > 
> > Is the firefox the best browser?
> > 
> 
> Definitive answer (Google please note!): Firefox == Iceweasel is better 
> qua extensions, but Opera "seems" faster. "Seems" in quotes because it 
> has to be proven to be so in order to actually be faster...
> 
> Hugo
> 

I use both. And personally I feel Opera bit faster. After opening
multiple tabs (around 10-12 tabs), opera's responsiveness is still
better than firefox.



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Re: reading email from gmail account with gnus in Emacs22

[Ron Johnson]

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On 11/04/07 07:11, Peter Smerdon wrote:
> Alexandru Cardaniuc <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> 
>> Hi All!
>>
>> Does anybody here use gnus from Emacs22 to read mail from gmail account?
>> I managed to make it work with Emacs21. Recently I tried Emacs22 and my
>> old config from Emacs21 doesn't work. I get some errors when fetching
>> from gmail with pop.
>>
>> Did anybody here manage to make gnus in Emacs22 work with gmail? Any
>> hints on the configuration of .gnus ?
>>
>> That's the setup that works fine for Emacs21 but doesn't work for
>> Emacs22:
>>
>>
>> ---
>>
>> (setq user-full-name "Alexandru Cardaniuc")
>> (setq user-mail-address "[EMAIL PROTECTED]")
>>
>> ;; using GNUS to send mail
>> (setq message-send-mail-function 'smtpmail-send-it)
>>
>> (setq send-mail-function 'smtpmail-send-it)
>>
>> ;; use 'one file per mail' back end
>> (setq gnus-select-method '(nnml ""))
>> (setq gnus-secondary-select-methods nil)
>>
>> ;; tell Gnus how to fetch mail
>> (setq mail-sources '((file :path "/var/spool/mail/alexandru")
>>   (pop  :server "pop.gmail.com"
>> :port 995
>> :user "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
>> :connection ssl
>> :password "secret"
>> :leave t))) ; leave the mail on the server
>>
>> (load-library "smtpmail")
>> (load-library "pop3")
>> (load-library "starttls")
>>
>> ;(setq pop3-debug t)
>>
>> (setq smtpmail-local-domain nil)
>>
>> ;(setq smtpmail-debug-info t) ; only to debug problems
>>
>> (setq smtpmail-auth-credentials '(("smtp.gmail.com" 25 "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" 
>> "secret")))
>> (setq smtpmail-starttls-credentials '(("smtp.gmail.com" 25 nil nil)))
>> (setq smtpmail-smtp-service "25")
>>
> 
> Hello Alexandru,
> I use a different set up...
> I use fetchmail to pull down my gmail into my system's mail spool and
> then gnus reads it from there, when I reply, gnus has to send it through
> the gmail server and adjust the From: header.
> 
> 
> (defun fs-change-smtp ()
>   "Change the SMTP server according to the current from line."
>   (save-excursion
> (let ((from
>(save-restriction
>  (message-narrow-to-headers)
>  (message-fetch-field "from"
>   (message "From is `%s', setting `smtpmail-smtp-server' to `%s'"
>from
>(cond
> ((string-match "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" from)
>  (setq sendmail-program "msmtp"))
> (add-hook 'message-setup-hook 'fs-change-smtp))
> 
> You would have to of course install the program msmtp and create a
> ~/.msmtprc file:
> 
> account default
> host smtp.gmail.com
> auth on
> user [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> password MYPASSWORD
> port 587
> tls on
> logfile ~/.msmtplog

Configuring your MTA as a relay host would do the same thing without
the need for a custom lisp routine.

> Not sure if you want to go that route though. You might also try the
> gnu.emacs.gnus newsgroup where you would definately get a better answer.
> 


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Search for BTN based software

[Jabka Atu]

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Hello,...

 After a lecture about BTN (Balanced Ternary Notation) i
tried to find (free) software that is created using this kind of point
of view.

- From we was told that this kind of programing is used in DNA software
but i didn't found any documentation in apt source for btn based software.

Could you please guide me for a free software that is created by this
idea ?

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Re: Could not adjust time

[Kamaraju S Kusumanchi]

hce wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> I press the right button of the mouse to the clock time on the panel,
> but there is not adjust time to change the time. What is missing ...

Insufficient information to come up with a solution. Is it KDE or gnome or
some other desktop environment? What panel are you running, Which version
of the panel program is it? What is your distribution (stable, testing,
unstable)? If you do not want to be bothered with all this then just use
the date command as Gerard suggested.

hth
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Re: Which browser is better, firefox?

[Adam Hardy]

Ron Johnson on 04/11/07 00:06, wrote:

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On 11/03/07 18:59, hce wrote:

Hi,

Is the firefox the best browser?

When I installed the Debian, it automatically included iceweasel. I
removed it and tryed to install firefox by "apt-get install firefox",
but it it got iceweasel gain. How can I install the firefox?


Google knows all, sees all, tells all.


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gkrellm not showing lm sensor data

[BartlebyScrivener]

I'm on Etch. I have installed lm sensors and gkrellm. I can get sensor
data by running $>sudo sensors, but gkrellm does not display the data.
When I go into gkrellm under "builtins" it is blank.

Any suggestions? The motherboard is  ASUS A7V8X

Thank you,

rd


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ppscsi on recent kernels

[Johan en Katrien Dewaele]

hello all,

I got this "old" parallel port-connected flatbed
scanner (Microtek Scanmaker V300) which used to work
very well for me up till (including) kernel version
2.6.15 with the ppscsi modules. (ppscsi and onscsi).

After a recent upgrade to testing, which brought me
now to kernel 2.6.22, I'm not longer able to compile
the necessary  modules with this kernel.  
I learned from the debian package tracking/bugreport
system  
http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=423317
that the package is orphaned and no longer maintained.

As a workaround I keep a dual-boot with an older
kernel (2.6.15.7) to still be able to use the modules.
This got me wondering what I would do, if 1 day after
an upgrade of for example sane, this would no longer
work...
I don't use the scanner often but it still is very
useful to me  and I would like to avoid buying a new
one.

I found on the web (yes, seems I'm not alone, hèhè)
http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-hardware-18/scanjet-5100c-in-kubuntu-feisty-555861/

http://www.nabble.com/Scanning-stops-immedaitely-in-Feisty-Fawn-t458.html

http://www.ubuntu-es.org/index.php?q=node/50248

 a patch for the ppscsi-source which makes it possible
to compile the program and that lets me successfully
insert the modules.

unfortunately the scanner does not work properly yet:
- verbose output from scanimage (this as root/ the
same result as normal user):

number1:/home/dewaele# scanimage - -d
microtek2:/dev/sg4
scanimage: scanning image of size 611x842 pixels at 24
bits/pixel
scanimage: acquiring RGB frame
P6
# SANE data follows
611 842
255
scanimage: min/max graylevel value = 255/0
scanimage: read 0 bytes in total
Closing device
Calling sane_exit
scanimage: finished

scanimage stops immediately, no image is saved.
version of sane 1.0.14-2 (debian testing)

- with xsane 0.99+0.991-5,  as plugin in gimp, I am
able to take a preview-shot, but the program gives me
immediately an empty window, and no picture is
scanned/shown.

- with the the quiteinsane 0.3-8 gimp2.0-quiteinsane
plugin, I also can take a preview, but when I want to
do the real scan, I get this messagewindow :  "the
device returned an unexpected SANE_STATUS_EOF" 

So this is where I get but no further... 

I was wondering if anyone could steer me in the right
direction where I could find a solution to still be
able to use this scanner.
Unfortunately I don't have the necessary
skills/knowledge of how to write/correct this program
myself, so I would appreciate it anyone could help me.
Any help is appreciated.

TIA and best regards,

Johan





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Re: Which browser is better, firefox?

[Ron Johnson]

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On 11/04/07 07:55, Adam Hardy wrote:
> Ron Johnson on 04/11/07 00:06, wrote:
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>> On 11/03/07 18:59, hce wrote:
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> Is the firefox the best browser?
>>>
>>> When I installed the Debian, it automatically included iceweasel. I
>>> removed it and tryed to install firefox by "apt-get install firefox",
>>> but it it got iceweasel gain. How can I install the firefox?
>>
>> Google knows all, sees all, tells all.
> 
>  unless you happen to be in China!

Spongebob in china

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6HIavxnUHls

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hard disk device name change after reboot

[hhding.gnu]

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hi list,

I run Debian 4.1.2-13 on Dell PowerEdge 650 with kernel
2.6.21-2-686. When I install the debian, the device name of partition
is hda1, hda2. After install, I reboot it for times and it works. One
day, I find it fail to reboot, after waiting for root filesystem for a
while, Debian drop to shell(busybox). Then I notice the device name of
hard disk has automaticly changed to hde1,hde2. some times, the
devices name is changed to others like hdg1, hdg2, etc. after reboot.

What's the problem then? Can I fix the device name? Any clue for it
is appreciated. :-)

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Re: Which browser is better, firefox?

[BartlebyScrivener]

On Nov 3, 6:10 pm, Claudius Hubig <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> This means, Iceweasel *is* Firefox just with another name.
>

Yes, usually. But it also wreaks havoc with certain sites because the
user agent says "ice weasel" which most sites don't recognize. If you
stay with ice weasel, I recommend the firefox user agent switcher
plugin if you have any problems with scripts not running etc.

rd


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Re: Mishap upgrading from Woody to Etch

[Matus UHLAR - fantomas]

On 09.09.07 19:34, Chris Austin wrote:
> I have had a Debian system working very well since 2003, when I installed it
> from the Stable system, which was Woody at the time.  Recently I wanted to
> install the gap package, (Groups, Algorithms and Programming computer
> algebra system), and for this I had to start upgrading packages to the
> current Stable system, which is Etch.  However I hit a circular dependency
> problem trying to upgrade libc6, so started upgrading packages with the
> Check Dependencies checkbox deselected, in the KPackage windows that were
> started by Konqueror, when I downloaded packages from the Debian website.
> At some stage e2fsprogs and e2fslibs were upgraded in this way, but I always
> hit an error trying to upgrade libc6, even after I exited KDE and tried to
> stop kdm with the kill signal in top.  I then found that kdm no longer
> restarted KDE, so to access the Internet I had to dual boot to MS Windows.
> Trying to reboot in Linux now starts a file system that is Read Only, with
> lots of warnings and errors.  It seems from some of the error messages that
> I now need to install the libuuid1 package, but I cannot do this because the
> file system is started Read Only.  I can get a writable file system by
> booting from the old Woody rescue.bin floppy, but file locations then need
> to be prepended by /target, and dpkg gives an error message: relocation
> error, symbol _obstack_begin, version GLIBC_2.0 not defined in file
> libc.so.6 with link time reference.

That's why yyou should never upgrade across two versions. You still can
upgrade to sarge and then to etch.

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Testing with some Unstable

[Jeff Grossman]

I am currently running a Debian testing system.  I want to live on the 
cutting edge with a couple of packages, particularly Sendmail right 
now.  When I run "aptitude install -t unstable sendmail libmilter1" I 
get the following output:


The following packages have been automatically kept back:
 fontconfig-config gnustep-back-common gnustep-base-common
 gnustep-base-runtime gnustep-common gnustep-gpbs gnustep-gui-common
 gnustep-gui-runtime libcurl3 libfontconfig1 libgsasl7 libltdl3
 libltdl3-dev libobjc1 libruby1.8 libversion-perl linux-image-2.6-686
 linux-image-2.6-k7 php5-mcrypt python-support ruby1.8 ttf-dejavu
The following packages have been kept back:
 acpid apache2 apache2-mpm-prefork apache2-utils apache2.2-common apt
 apt-listbugs apt-utils aptitude binutils bsdmainutils bsdutils coreutils
 cpp-4.1 curl debconf debconf-i18n debconf-utils debianutils eject g++-4.1
 gcc-4.1 gcc-4.1-base grub initramfs-tools installation-report
 iputils-ping klibc-utils laptop-detect libapache2-mod-php5 libc6
 libc6-amd64 libc6-dev libc6-dev-amd64 libc6-i686 libcupsys2 libdb4.6
 libglib2.0-0 libklibc libmudflap0-dev libopencdk10 libpcre3 libpcre3-dev
 libpcrecpp0 libpq5 libsasl2-2 libsasl2-modules libslang2 libssl-dev
 libssl0.9.8 libstdc++6-4.1-dev libtool linux-image-k7 linux-libc-dev
 locales login mercurial mount mutt openssl passwd php-pear php5 php5-cgi
 php5-cli php5-common php5-gd php5-mysql phpmyadmin razor sasl2-bin
 sendmail-base sendmail-bin sendmail-cf sensible-mda terminal.app usbutils
 util-linux x11-common zlib1g zlib1g-dev
The following packages will be upgraded:
 libmilter1 sendmail
2 packages upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 103 not upgraded.
Need to get 433kB of archives. After unpacking 0B will be used.


I am assuming all of those packages have been updated in testing, but I 
have not asked to install them.  Would I be shooting off my foot with 
just upgrading Sendmail and Libmilter from unstable but leaving 
everything else from testing?


Thanks,
Jeff


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Re: Intel Deluxe PC Camera

[Andrew Sackville-West]

On Sun, Nov 04, 2007 at 08:27:53AM +0100, Thierry Chatelet wrote:
> On Sunday 04 November 2007 07:35, John Schmidt wrote:
> > On Sunday 04 November 2007, Marc Shapiro wrote:
> > > It looks like the driver module that I need is spca501.  There is a
> > > source package for Etch:
> > >
> > > spca5xx-source
> > >
> >
> > Do this:
> >
> > sudo m-a
> >
> > It will put up a dialogue box, and then you need to first prepare the build
> > by downloading the kernel headers.  Then choose select and check the
> > spca5xx-source, and it should download it for you.  Then build it and
> > install it.  These are all menu selectable items in module assitant.
> >
> 
> Unless I am mistaking, I read somewhere that spca5xx was for kernel up to 
> 2.6.11, for later kernel you need gspca-sources.

You are correct.

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Re: fglrx upgrade to 8.42.3

[Davide Mancusi]

Davide Mancusi ha scritto:
[...] building the package does not work. It fails like this 
(long log follows): [snipped]


	For the benefit of those who are trying to walk the same path: I have 
managed to create the packages by following the instructions on the ATI 
wiki [1]. The drivers from the ATI website work marginally better than 
those in Debian/non-free (fgl_glxgears starts) but some 3D applications 
are still broken (e.g. nexuiz), as if some extensions were broken in the 
upgrade.


	It looks like I have to wait a little bit longer to see compiz run on 
my machine...


Davide

[1] 
http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Debian_Installation_Guide#Build_the_Debian_packages


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Re: Intel Deluxe PC Camera

[Marc Shapiro]

Andrew Sackville-West wrote:

On Sun, Nov 04, 2007 at 08:27:53AM +0100, Thierry Chatelet wrote:
  

On Sunday 04 November 2007 07:35, John Schmidt wrote:


On Sunday 04 November 2007, Marc Shapiro wrote:
  

It looks like the driver module that I need is spca501.  There is a
source package for Etch:

spca5xx-source



Do this:

sudo m-a

It will put up a dialogue box, and then you need to first prepare the build
by downloading the kernel headers.  Then choose select and check the
spca5xx-source, and it should download it for you.  Then build it and
install it.  These are all menu selectable items in module assitant.

  
Unless I am mistaking, I read somewhere that spca5xx was for kernel up to 
2.6.11, for later kernel you need gspca-sources.



You are correct.
  
So, do I follow the instructions that John gave above and substitute 
gspca-source for spca5xx-source?


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Re: fglrx upgrade to 8.42.3

[Jonathan Kaye]

Davide Mancusi wrote:

> Davide Mancusi ha scritto:
>> [...] building the package does not work. It fails like this
>> (long log follows): [snipped]
> 
> For the benefit of those who are trying to walk the same path: I have
> managed to create the packages by following the instructions on the ATI
> wiki [1]. The drivers from the ATI website work marginally better than
> those in Debian/non-free (fgl_glxgears starts) but some 3D applications
> are still broken (e.g. nexuiz), as if some extensions were broken in the
> upgrade.
> 
> It looks like I have to wait a little bit longer to see compiz run on
> my machine...
> 
> Davide
> 
> [1]
>
http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Debian_Installation_Guide#Build_the_Debian_packages
> 
Hi Davide,
Following your message I checked out nexuiz and it runs fine with my card
and driver. I'm surprised that running the ATI-Installer gave you error
messages. I see 2 differences between our systems:
1. You are using a 64bit kernel and I'm using a 32bit one (although I have
an AMD64 Athlalon Chip.
2. I'm running lenny and you're running sid.
I think the 32 and 64bit versions use the same installation file, yes?
So if it's not related to one of those 2 differences I'm stumped. I don't
understand why just running the installation program with the --buildpkg
switch causes error in your system and not in mine.
Sorry,
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Re: Re: Using backports after upgrade

[John Fleming]

I think that you may find that the SA upgrades have migrated to
debian-volatile.  Its a new official service for upgrades that are not
security-minded (as is security.debian.org) but that info changes (such
as virus and spam scanners).  If so, its just one more line in your
sources.list.

Doug.
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Sorry that I'm late answering and messing up the threads.  I had to go out 
of town and got a little happy with the delete key...  Got the above from 
the archives.


My sources list is below - Both volatile and back ports are in there, and 
both clamav (volatile) and SA (backports) used to update before I upgraded 
sarge to etch.


Thanks any other help...?  - John

#The url below is for clamav updates
deb http://volatile.debian.org/debian-volatile etch/volatile main
#The url below is for spamassassin from backports.org
deb http://www.backports.org/debian etch-backports main 



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Re: Search for BTN based software

[Kevin Mark]

On Sun, Nov 04, 2007 at 03:51:48PM +0200, Jabka Atu wrote:
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> Hello,...
> 
>  After a lecture about BTN (Balanced Ternary Notation) i
> tried to find (free) software that is created using this kind of point
> of view.
> 
> - From we was told that this kind of programing is used in DNA software
> but i didn't found any documentation in apt source for btn based software.
> 
> Could you please guide me for a free software that is created by this
> idea ?
> 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Balanced_ternary
Is this what you mean? Google didn't find any software win/lin/mac for
me.
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Re: Which browser is better, firefox?

[Manon Metten]

On 11/4/07, BartlebyScrivener <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> This means, Iceweasel *is* Firefox just with another name.
> >
>
> Yes, usually. But it also wreaks havoc with certain sites because the
> user agent says "ice weasel" which most sites don't recognize. If you
> stay with ice weasel, I recommend the firefox user agent switcher
> plugin if you have any problems with scripts not running etc.



Or in about:config set "general.useragent.extra.firefox" to
"Firefox/2.0.0.8".

Manon.

Re: Search for BTN based software

[Jabka Atu]

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Kevin Mark wrote:
> On Sun, Nov 04, 2007 at 03:51:48PM +0200, Jabka Atu wrote:
>> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
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>>
>> Hello,...
>>
>>  After a lecture about BTN (Balanced Ternary Notation) i
>> tried to find (free) software that is created using this kind of point
>> of view.
>>
>> - From we was told that this kind of programing is used in DNA software
>> but i didn't found any documentation in apt source for btn based software.
>>
>> Could you please guide me for a free software that is created by this
>> idea ?
>>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Balanced_ternary
> Is this what you mean? Google didn't find any software win/lin/mac for
> me.
Yes.

As we been told most of the software in the academy is Commercial and
you can't see the code.
Some of the use of BTN based software is in (As been told) in Bio an
Chemistry Eng.

Also i didn't find any application using Google since this is
extreamly low level (i can't how it will effect C or higher langs).

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Re: Search for BTN based software

[Kevin Mark]

On Sun, Nov 04, 2007 at 09:12:28PM +0200, Jabka Atu wrote:
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> Kevin Mark wrote:
> > On Sun, Nov 04, 2007 at 03:51:48PM +0200, Jabka Atu wrote:
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> >> Hello,...
> >>
> >>  After a lecture about BTN (Balanced Ternary Notation) i
> >> tried to find (free) software that is created using this kind of point
> >> of view.
> >>
> >> - From we was told that this kind of programing is used in DNA software
> >> but i didn't found any documentation in apt source for btn based software.
> >>
> >> Could you please guide me for a free software that is created by this
> >> idea ?
> >>
> > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Balanced_ternary
> > Is this what you mean? Google didn't find any software win/lin/mac for
> > me.
> Yes.
> 
> As we been told most of the software in the academy is Commercial and
> you can't see the code.
> Some of the use of BTN based software is in (As been told) in Bio an
> Chemistry Eng.
> 
> Also i didn't find any application using Google since this is
> extreamly low level (i can't how it will effect C or higher langs).
I would suggest asking the debian-med project (ML, irc, or similar), If
anyone would have a 'foggy idea´ what you are looking for, it should be
them. There are DD who work in bio/med related areas (david nusinow,
yarislav harchenko, charles plessy?,...) so someone in Debian-land may be
able to at least know about this. 
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Re: risks of using net apps as a user in wheel or adm?

[Joe]

Andrew Sackville-West wrote:

On Sat, Nov 03, 2007 at 10:41:35AM +, Joe wrote:

Andrew Sackville-West wrote:

On Fri, Nov 02, 2007 at 09:29:51PM +, Joe wrote:
Microsoft Update and apt-get are probably as close as you get, and I 
wouldn't bet a large amount of money that either is 100% safe. One day MU 
will get hacked, and the whole world will collapse.



wow, that's quite a comparison: Microsoft Update which will secretly
upgrade stuff on the system even when explicitly told not to versus
apt-get which must be explicitly told what to do and then asks "are
you sure?" And I won't even go into the parts where you get to look at
apt code...
Frankly I hope MU does get hacked (if it hasn't already) because some
people need to learn some lessons, not the least of which is MS itself
for releasing such tragically flawed software to begin with. Note though 
that I do not wish ill upon the poor users of this

product... merely that the PTB's over there would get a clue (and yes
I know many of them do have a clue, just not enough or the right ones).
Ah, I wasn't comparing operational use, 


fair enough...

just the systems as being 
reasonably tamper-proof methods of delivering software from the original 
sources to the user.


see, there is a significant difference here. MU allows kernel level
software upgrades to be loaded into the system without admin
intervention or knowledge. So it appears to me that MU is *not*
reasonably tamper-proof and is infact designed to be tampered with..

The vast majority of downloaded software comes from 
unidentifiable sources via paths which are relatively easily hacked.


The vast majority of whose software? All mine comes from signed
archives with keys that I can verify. 


The MU issue is simply one of monoculture, not software quality.


I disagree. The whole MU issue is about fundamentally flawed ideas
 about software. The software produced from a flawed concept (that its
 okay to have some party arbitrarily install kernel level software
 remotely without admin interaction) is flawed and not quality
 software.

If 90% of 
the world's PCs used apt-get daily, the repercussions of malware smuggled 
into major packages would be just as serious as an MU hack today.


Yes, except again, if the apt repositories were compromised, we would
still have the option to not bother typing apt-get upgrade (once the
news got out, of course. Some would surely still fall...). If someone
hacks MU, then that hack can be distributed automatically to every box
to be automatically installed even if the admin has turned off the
automatic install "feature".

BTW, I'm not sure that we're actually arguing here. It maybe that I
just don't understand what you're saying :)



It was to do with the original point, active client-side content of web 
pages, really. This was the 'vast majority of downloaded software' I 
meant, and was contrasting it with the distribution of system 
executables, which is done relatively safely. Microsoft may not be as 
ethical as we would like, but so far the actual distribution system has 
remained fairly tamper-proof. Whatever malicious software ends up in the 
machine is exactly the malicious software that Microsoft meant to 
distribute. And if the use of apt reached Windows-like proportions, how 
many people would manually invoke it each day? How many would scour the 
Internet for half an hour first, looking for evidence that the pending 
updates were safe or not?


My point was that the mass of JS, Flash etc. which is taken as a normal 
part of web browsing, is as Doug said back in the beginning, the 
execution of someone else's programs on your computer. I'm not convinced 
it's the right way to be going, and I'd like to see the processing done 
on the server, with only the client's screen being affected by the 
result. I doubt that many Linux users would disagree, it's always been 
the Windows world that has pushed the PC as an entertainment machine, 
owned by Microsoft and the other software writers rather than the person 
who paid for it. A few more attributes of html tags would in my mind be 
preferable to requiring JS for quick entry validation, for example. I'm 
a bit uneasy that even banks seem to find JS indispensable, when for the 
kind of simple user entry processing involved, it certainly isn't.


And while I'm a user of Windows, and indeed a Microsoft Partner, it's 
purely for economic reasons. I sup with the longest spoon I can find, 
and I've yet to find a good word to say about the company itself. But 
hey, I deal with my government, whose ethics are lower still.



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Re: Contacts printing

[Rodolfo Medina]

On Mon, Oct 29, 2007 at 01:12:06PM +0100, Rodolfo Medina wrote:

>>> I wish a way to print the
>>> Contacts (about 300) that I have stored in a directory, one per file.



Douglas A. Tutty" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

>> I think you just need to write a script in your favorite language to
>> parse the files and format it to your liking then just print it out.



Rodolfo:
  
> Every file is like this:
>
> BEGIN:VCARD
> VERSION:2.1
> N:;Oliver Hardy ;;;
> TEL;CELL:3391234567
> TEL;VOICE;HOME:081123567
> FN:Oliver Hardy
> END:VCARD
>
> , so the major problem would be sorting: how to sort whole items like
> that?

 I want to cat all those file into one file and then sort the above
 entries, I
 don't know how.  I also want to eliminate redundant symbols and words like
 `BEGIN:VCARD', `END:VCARD', `N:;', `VERSION:2.1' etc.






Raj Kiran Grandhi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> The following line will get you your contacts in a format you can import into
> a spreadsheet.
>
> $ for file in /path/to/dir/*;do tail -n4 $file|head -n 3 \
> |cut -f 2 -d :|xargs echo $(basename $file);done
>
> That will put the filename, the two phone numbers and name in each line. You
> might want to replace the spaces with comma's and save the file to some name
> ending with .csv to ease import into a spreadsheet


Thanks!, the file is imported into the spreadsheet.  But the items are still
not sorted, which remains the main problem (besides some coding problems).
Any hint about that?

Rodolfo


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lprng + magicfilter + hpijs => hp deskjet 680c

[Javier Vasquez]

Hi,

I have a HP-680C deskject printer that I wanted to make it work with
lprng + magicfilter + hpijs.  So far no luck.  I seems like I'm able
to use the filter:

/etc/magicfilter/dj550c-filter

But for some reason I can't get to use the:

/etc/magicfilter/hpijs-filter

I always get the message from gs indicating hpijs device not found.  I
have the package hpijs already installed, and I tried also installing
the ppd one with all the foomatic dependencies, and I got no luck.  Is
there any special trick for getting hpijs filter to work?

Is there any one else with the same printer using lprng + magic
filter?  If so, what is it they use and how to set that up?

Thanks,

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Re: lprng + magicfilter + hpijs => hp deskjet 680c

[Javier Vasquez]

On 11/4/07, Javier Vasquez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I have a HP-680C deskject printer that I wanted to make it work with
> lprng + magicfilter + hpijs.  So far no luck.  I seems like I'm able
> to use the filter:
>
> /etc/magicfilter/dj550c-filter
>
> But for some reason I can't get to use the:
>
> /etc/magicfilter/hpijs-filter
>
> I always get the message from gs indicating hpijs device not found.  I
> have the package hpijs already installed, and I tried also installing
> the ppd one with all the foomatic dependencies, and I got no luck.  Is
> there any special trick for getting hpijs filter to work?
>
> Is there any one else with the same printer using lprng + magic
> filter?  If so, what is it they use and how to set that up?
>
> Thanks,
>
> --
> Javier


BTW:  Is there a way to set the quality on /etc/printcap directly, so
by default everything prints on economic/draft quality under such
configuration?

Thanks,


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Mouse stopped working

[David Baron]

Maybe the rodent itself kicked, but:

While is was working, I got on bootup:
PNP PS/2 Controller .

Now, not working, I get on bootup
PNP PS/2 Controller 
PNP PS/2 Controller appears to have AUX port disabled, if this is incorrect 
please boot with i8042.nopnp

If this is relevant, what do I do?

(Corolary symtom: Mousedev module hits /dev/psaux and was being loaded 
automatically. Now it is not. So I uncommented in /etc/modules. Mouse still 
does not work but /dev/psaux is then "engaged")


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Re: fglrx upgrade to 8.42.3

[Davide Mancusi]

Jonathan Kaye ha scritto:

Following your message I checked out nexuiz and it runs fine with my card
and driver. I'm surprised that running the ATI-Installer gave you error
messages. I see 2 differences between our systems:
1. You are using a 64bit kernel and I'm using a 32bit one (although I have
an AMD64 Athlalon Chip.
2. I'm running lenny and you're running sid.
I think the 32 and 64bit versions use the same installation file, yes?
So if it's not related to one of those 2 differences I'm stumped. I don't
understand why just running the installation program with the --buildpkg
switch causes error in your system and not in mine.


	Yes, Jonathan, as I hinted at in the previous post (see external link) 
the problem was that the ATI package has not been properly updated yet 
to reflect the changes that took place in the way Debian organises the 
GL libraries (they used to be in /usr/X11R6/lib*). It is possible to 
work around this by uncompressing the ATI package and creating an 
appropriate symlink. This happens only when building for amd64.


	In the meantime, I have found out that nexuiz runs fine if I run it 
with the -safe switch; it runs windowed and I think some effects are 
disabled. Probably ATI broke some of the GLX extensions in the 8.40 --> 
8.42 upgrade.


	Thank you very much for your help anyway! I have posted a bug on the 
ATI bugzilla and if something pops up, I will post here again.


Davide

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Re: Intel Deluxe PC Camera

[Andrew Sackville-West]

On Sun, Nov 04, 2007 at 08:34:20AM -0800, Marc Shapiro wrote:
> Andrew Sackville-West wrote:
>> On Sun, Nov 04, 2007 at 08:27:53AM +0100, Thierry Chatelet wrote:
>>   
>>> On Sunday 04 November 2007 07:35, John Schmidt wrote:
>>> 
 On Sunday 04 November 2007, Marc Shapiro wrote:
   
> It looks like the driver module that I need is spca501.  There is a
> source package for Etch:
>
> spca5xx-source
>
> 
 Do this:

 sudo m-a

 It will put up a dialogue box, and then you need to first prepare the 
 build
 by downloading the kernel headers.  Then choose select and check the
 spca5xx-source, and it should download it for you.  Then build it and
 install it.  These are all menu selectable items in module assitant.

   
>>> Unless I am mistaking, I read somewhere that spca5xx was for kernel up to 
>>> 2.6.11, for later kernel you need gspca-sources.
>>> 
>>
>> You are correct.
>>   
> So, do I follow the instructions that John gave above and substitute 
> gspca-source for spca5xx-source?

yep, but take note of John's continuation of this thread. I'm not sure
what he'd doing there, but it may apply to your situation.

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Re: risks of using net apps as a user in wheel or adm?

[Andrew Sackville-West]

On Sun, Nov 04, 2007 at 07:23:47PM +, Joe wrote:

...
>
> It was to do with the original point, active client-side content of web 
> pages, really. This was the 'vast majority of downloaded software' I
meant, 

sorry, I musunderstood that point...

> and was contrasting it with the distribution of system executables, which 
> is done relatively safely. Microsoft may not be as ethical as we would 
> like, but so far the actual distribution system has remained fairly 
> tamper-proof. Whatever malicious software ends up in the machine is exactly 
> the malicious software that Microsoft meant to distribute. And if the use 
> of apt reached Windows-like proportions, how many people would manually 
> invoke it each day? How many would scour the Internet for half an hour 
> first, looking for evidence that the pending updates were safe or
> not?

I agree with you here. In fact, we basically agree across the board
here, we just suffer from the medium's lack of nuance. ;)

> But hey, I 
> deal with my government, whose ethics are lower still.

shudder. I feel for you. at the moment, I am largely insulated from
*that* horror. 

cheers.

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Re: Testing with some Unstable

[Andrew Sackville-West]

On Sun, Nov 04, 2007 at 07:48:36AM -0800, Jeff Grossman wrote:
> I am currently running a Debian testing system.  I want to live on the 
> cutting edge with a couple of packages, particularly Sendmail right now.  
> When I run "aptitude install -t unstable sendmail libmilter1" I get the 
> following output:
>
> The following packages have been automatically kept back:
>  fontconfig-config gnustep-back-common gnustep-base-common
>  gnustep-base-runtime gnustep-common gnustep-gpbs gnustep-gui-common
>  gnustep-gui-runtime libcurl3 libfontconfig1 libgsasl7 libltdl3
>  libltdl3-dev libobjc1 libruby1.8 libversion-perl linux-image-2.6-686
>  linux-image-2.6-k7 php5-mcrypt python-support ruby1.8 ttf-dejavu
> The following packages have been kept back:
>  acpid apache2 apache2-mpm-prefork apache2-utils apache2.2-common apt
>  apt-listbugs apt-utils aptitude binutils bsdmainutils bsdutils coreutils
>  cpp-4.1 curl debconf debconf-i18n debconf-utils debianutils eject g++-4.1
>  gcc-4.1 gcc-4.1-base grub initramfs-tools installation-report
>  iputils-ping klibc-utils laptop-detect libapache2-mod-php5 libc6
>  libc6-amd64 libc6-dev libc6-dev-amd64 libc6-i686 libcupsys2 libdb4.6
>  libglib2.0-0 libklibc libmudflap0-dev libopencdk10 libpcre3 libpcre3-dev
>  libpcrecpp0 libpq5 libsasl2-2 libsasl2-modules libslang2 libssl-dev
>  libssl0.9.8 libstdc++6-4.1-dev libtool linux-image-k7 linux-libc-dev
>  locales login mercurial mount mutt openssl passwd php-pear php5 php5-cgi
>  php5-cli php5-common php5-gd php5-mysql phpmyadmin razor sasl2-bin
>  sendmail-base sendmail-bin sendmail-cf sensible-mda terminal.app usbutils
>  util-linux x11-common zlib1g zlib1g-dev
> The following packages will be upgraded:
>  libmilter1 sendmail
> 2 packages upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 103 not upgraded.
> Need to get 433kB of archives. After unpacking 0B will be used.
>
>
> I am assuming all of those packages have been updated in testing, but I 
> have not asked to install them.  Would I be shooting off my foot with just 
> upgrading Sendmail and Libmilter from unstable but leaving everything else 
> from testing?
>

actually, assuming you now have unstable in your sources.list, those
are packages currently installed for which there are updates available
(probably unstable updates...). Be careful or you'll end up farther
than you want.

I can't answer to the specifics of sendmail and libmilter, but so long
as you have unstable in your sources.list, those kept-back packages
will appear (unless you upgrade them, of course). Probably, on the
assumption that sendmail and libmilter is sufficient for your needs,
you should change you sources.list back once those two upgrades are
done. 

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Re: hard disk device name change after reboot

[Andrew Sackville-West]

On Sun, Nov 04, 2007 at 10:49:49PM +0800, hhding.gnu wrote:
> hi list,
> 
> I run Debian 4.1.2-13 on Dell PowerEdge 650 with kernel
> 2.6.21-2-686. When I install the debian, the device name of partition
> is hda1, hda2. After install, I reboot it for times and it works. One
> day, I find it fail to reboot, after waiting for root filesystem for a
> while, Debian drop to shell(busybox). Then I notice the device name of
> hard disk has automaticly changed to hde1,hde2. some times, the
> devices name is changed to others like hdg1, hdg2, etc. after reboot.
> 
> What's the problem then? Can I fix the device name? Any clue for it
> is appreciated. :-)
> 

Not sure specifically what is causing this problem, but in the
meantime, switch to using LABEL's or UUID's to identify disks. That
way you can continue booting until you figure it out.

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Re: Telnet/SSH Terminal Help

[s. keeling]

Jeff Grossman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> > Douglas A. Tutty wrote:
> >> On Mon, Oct 29, 2007 at 06:03:01AM -0700, Jeff Grossman wrote:
> >>>
> >>> If I do an 'export LC_ALL=C' then term=linux and term=screen appear to
> >>> act the same.  The display is much better but still not perfect.  I
> >>> have
> >>> updated a new picture at http://www.stikman.com/mcdisplay1.jpg.
> >>
> >> What about TERM=screen ?
> 
>  Where should I put the 'export LC_ALL=C' command so it is always done for
>  each login and for each user?  The /etc/bash.bashrc file?

/etc/profile is the usual place, but are you sure you want to do that?
That would have no effect here because I clobber whatever the system
gives me in my own startup scripts.

btw, defining LC_ALL=C is heavy-handed overkill.  Better would be
LANG.  I also set LC_COLLATE=C.  Here's what I end up with:

(0) heretic /home/keeling_ locale
LANG=en_US.iso885915
LC_CTYPE="en_US.iso885915"
LC_NUMERIC="en_US.iso885915"
LC_TIME="en_US.iso885915"
LC_COLLATE=C
LC_MONETARY="en_US.iso885915"
LC_MESSAGES="en_US.iso885915"
LC_PAPER="en_US.iso885915"
LC_NAME="en_US.iso885915"
LC_ADDRESS="en_US.iso885915"
LC_TELEPHONE="en_US.iso885915"
LC_MEASUREMENT="en_US.iso885915"
LC_IDENTIFICATION="en_US.iso885915"
LC_ALL=

LC_ALL isn't even set!


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Vá: home network behind a firewall/router

[Pál Csányi]

2007/11/4, Raj Kiran Grandhi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>
> You did enable IP masquerading on your gateway machine, didn't you?

No, I did not.

> Also output of "iptaples --list" on your gateway

Chain INPUT (policy DROP)
target prot opt source   destination
ACCEPT 0--  anywhere anywhere
eth3_in0--  anywhere anywhere
eth1_in0--  anywhere anywhere
eth2_in0--  anywhere anywhere
Reject 0--  anywhere anywhere
LOG0--  anywhere anywhereLOG level
info prefix
`Shorewall:INPU
T:REJECT:'
reject 0--  anywhere anywhere

Chain FORWARD (policy DROP)
target prot opt source   destination
eth3_fwd   0--  anywhere anywhere
eth1_fwd   0--  anywhere anywhere
eth2_fwd   0--  anywhere anywhere
Reject 0--  anywhere anywhere
LOG0--  anywhere anywhereLOG level
info prefix
`Shorewall:FORW
ARD:REJECT:'
reject 0--  anywhere anywhere

Chain OUTPUT (policy DROP)
target prot opt source   destination
ACCEPT 0--  anywhere anywhere
ACCEPT udp  --  anywhere anywhereudp
dpts:bootps:bootpc
ACCEPT udp  --  anywhere anywhereudp
dpts:bootps:bootpc
ACCEPT udp  --  anywhere anywhereudp
dpts:bootps:bootpc
fw2stc 0--  anywhere anywherepolicy
match dir out pol none
fw2loc 0--  anywhere anywherepolicy
match dir out pol none
fw2dmz 0--  anywhere anywherepolicy
match dir out pol none
Reject 0--  anywhere anywhere
LOG0--  anywhere anywhereLOG level
info prefix
`Shorewall:OUTP
UT:REJECT:'
reject 0--  anywhere anywhere

Chain Drop (1 references)
target prot opt source   destination
reject tcp  --  anywhere anywheretcp dpt:auth
dropBcast  0--  anywhere anywhere
ACCEPT icmp --  anywhere anywhereicmp
fragmentation-needed
ACCEPT icmp --  anywhere anywhereicmp time-exceeded
dropInvalid  0--  anywhere anywhere
DROP   udp  --  anywhere anywheremultiport dports
loc-srv,microsoft-ds

DROP   udp  --  anywhere anywhereudp
dpts:netbios-ns:netbios-ssn
DROP   udp  --  anywhere anywhereudp spt:netbios-ns
dpts:1024:65535
DROP   tcp  --  anywhere anywheremultiport dports
loc-srv,netbios-ssn,
microsoft-ds
DROP   udp  --  anywhere anywhereudp dpt:1900
dropNotSyn  tcp  --  anywhere anywhere
DROP   udp  --  anywhere anywhereudp spt:domain

Chain Reject (4 references)
target prot opt source   destination
reject tcp  --  anywhere anywheretcp dpt:auth
dropBcast  0--  anywhere anywhere
ACCEPT icmp --  anywhere anywhereicmp
fragmentation-needed
ACCEPT icmp --  anywhere anywhereicmp time-exceeded
dropInvalid  0--  anywhere anywhere
reject udp  --  anywhere anywheremultiport dports
loc-srv,microsoft-ds

reject udp  --  anywhere anywhereudp
dpts:netbios-ns:netbios-ssn
reject udp  --  anywhere anywhereudp spt:netbios-ns
dpts:1024:65535
reject tcp  --  anywhere anywheremultiport dports
loc-srv,netbios-ssn,
microsoft-ds
DROP   udp  --  anywhere anywhereudp dpt:1900
dropNotSyn  tcp  --  anywhere anywhere
DROP   udp  --  anywhere anywhereudp spt:domain

Chain all2all (2 references)
target prot opt source   destination
ACCEPT 0--  anywhere anywherestate
RELATED,ESTABLISHED
Reject 0--  anywhere anywhere
LOG0--  anywhere anywhereLOG level
info prefix
`Shorewall:all2
all:REJECT:'
reject 0--  anywhere anywhere

Chain dmz2all (3 references)
target prot opt source   destination
ACCEPT 0--  anywhere anywherestate
RELATED,ESTABLISHED
ACCEPT 0--  anywhere anywhere

Chain dmz2fw (1 references)
target prot opt source   destination
ACCEPT 0--  anywhere anywherestate
RELATED,ESTABLISHED
ACCEPT icmp --  anywhere anywhereicmp echo-request
ACCEPT tcp  --  debian-szerver   anywheremultiport
dports ,www
dmz2all0-- 

Re: Using backports after upgrade

[Liam O'Toole]

On Sun, 4 Nov 2007 13:39:06 -0500
"John Fleming" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> 
> I think that you may find that the SA upgrades have migrated to
> debian-volatile.  Its a new official service for upgrades that are not
> security-minded (as is security.debian.org) but that info changes
> (such as virus and spam scanners).  If so, its just one more line in
> your sources.list.
> 
> Doug.
> --
> 
> Sorry that I'm late answering and messing up the threads.  I had to
> go out of town and got a little happy with the delete key...  Got the
> above from the archives.
> 
> My sources list is below - Both volatile and back ports are in there,
> and both clamav (volatile) and SA (backports) used to update before I
> upgraded sarge to etch.
> 
> Thanks any other help...?  - John
> 
> #The url below is for clamav updates
> deb http://volatile.debian.org/debian-volatile etch/volatile main
> #The url below is for spamassassin from backports.org
> deb http://www.backports.org/debian etch-backports main 
> 
> 

Use the command 'apt-cache policy spamassassin' to see what versions
of spamassassin are available. Then, if you want the version from
etch-backports, issue the command 'aptitude install -t etch-backports
spamassassin' (or use apt-get for the purpose).

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Vá: home network behind a firewall/router

[Pál Csányi]

2007/11/4, Douglas A. Tutty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> On Sat, Nov 03, 2007 at 07:46:20PM +0100, P?l Cs?nyi wrote:
> >
> > I have a Cable Modem connection to my ISP.
> >
 my ISP
   |
Cable Modem connection to my ISP
   |
 eth3
   get an IP address
  from dhcp server of my ISP
   10.91.0.xxx
   |
PC box-1 firewall/gateway
=
   eth1eth2
192.168.1.1 192.168.2.1
|   |
   LAN DMZ
|   |
   eth0eth0
192.168.1.98  192.168.2.100
|   |
PC box-2PC box-3
desktop server
Debian Etch Debian Etch
=== ===

> > I can connect from the PC box-1 to the internet,
> > but can't connect from LAN & from DMZ to the internet.
> >
> > I use shorewall on all boxes, but even when I do
> > shorewall clear on all boxes, I still can't to connect to the
> > internet from LAN & DMZ.
> >
> > On the firewall/gateway I have dhcp server which give
> > IP addresses to box-2 & box-3.
> >
> > I set up on both box-2 & box-3 the dhcp client to get the
> > domain-name-servers, and have these servers in resolv.conf.
>
> Did you enable packet forwarding on box 1?

Yes I did.
/proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward
is 1

> Is shorewall masquerading for you?

No, I have not a public IP address yet, so I don't need it.

> Add IP numbers to your diagram.

See above!

> Test by pinging by IP number and worry about DNS once IP works.

from PC box-1 ping PC box-2
ping 192.168.1.98
OK

from PC box-1 ping PC box-3
ping 192.168.2.100
OK

from PC box-1 ping www.google.com
ping www.google.com
OK

from PC box-2 ping PC box-1
ping 192.168.1.1
OK

from PC box-2 ping www.google.com
ping www.google.com
ping: unknown host www.google.com

from PC box-3 ping PC box-1
ping 192.168.1.1
OK

from PC box-3 ping www.google.com
ping www.google.com
ping: unknown host www.google.com


I set up on PC box-1 & box-2 & box-3 dhcpclient so
they get domain-name-servers of my ISP correctly.
I can see the correct nameservers in resolv.conf
of both boxes.

I don't understand what is missing here more?

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Re: [Dovecot] Testing with some Unstable

[Jeff Grossman]

Jeff Grossman wrote:

Andrew Sackville-West wrote:

[SNIPPED]

actually, assuming you now have unstable in your sources.list, those
are packages currently installed for which there are updates available
(probably unstable updates...). Be careful or you'll end up farther
than you want.

I can't answer to the specifics of sendmail and libmilter, but so long
as you have unstable in your sources.list, those kept-back packages
will appear (unless you upgrade them, of course). Probably, on the
assumption that sendmail and libmilter is sufficient for your needs,
you should change you sources.list back once those two upgrades are
done.
A
  
I have "APT::Default-Release "testing";" in my apt.conf file.  Is it 
still advised to remove the unstable lines from my sources.list file 
even though I have the above in my apt.conf file?


Thanks for you help.

Jeff  

Whoops, I sent this to the wrong list.  My apologies.

Jeff


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Re: Telnet/SSH Terminal Help

[Jeff Grossman]

s. keeling wrote:

Jeff Grossman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
  

Douglas A. Tutty wrote:
  

On Mon, Oct 29, 2007 at 06:03:01AM -0700, Jeff Grossman wrote:


If I do an 'export LC_ALL=C' then term=linux and term=screen appear to
act the same.  The display is much better but still not perfect.  I
have
updated a new picture at http://www.stikman.com/mcdisplay1.jpg.
  

What about TERM=screen ?


 Where should I put the 'export LC_ALL=C' command so it is always done for
 each login and for each user?  The /etc/bash.bashrc file?



/etc/profile is the usual place, but are you sure you want to do that?
That would have no effect here because I clobber whatever the system
gives me in my own startup scripts.

btw, defining LC_ALL=C is heavy-handed overkill.  Better would be
LANG.  I also set LC_COLLATE=C.  Here's what I end up with:

(0) heretic /home/keeling_ locale
LANG=en_US.iso885915
LC_CTYPE="en_US.iso885915"
LC_NUMERIC="en_US.iso885915"
LC_TIME="en_US.iso885915"
LC_COLLATE=C
LC_MONETARY="en_US.iso885915"
LC_MESSAGES="en_US.iso885915"
LC_PAPER="en_US.iso885915"
LC_NAME="en_US.iso885915"
LC_ADDRESS="en_US.iso885915"
LC_TELEPHONE="en_US.iso885915"
LC_MEASUREMENT="en_US.iso885915"
LC_IDENTIFICATION="en_US.iso885915"
LC_ALL=

LC_ALL isn't even set!


  
Well, honestly, I have no idea what any of those settings do.  I just 
want mc and aptitude to properly draw lines.  Without the LC_ALL line 
the lines are not drawn correctly.  What setting should I use to fix the 
lines in those two programs?


Jeff


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Re: [Dovecot] Testing with some Unstable

[Jeff Grossman]

Jeff Grossman wrote:

Jeff Grossman wrote:

Andrew Sackville-West wrote:

[SNIPPED]

actually, assuming you now have unstable in your sources.list, those
are packages currently installed for which there are updates available
(probably unstable updates...). Be careful or you'll end up farther
than you want.

I can't answer to the specifics of sendmail and libmilter, but so long
as you have unstable in your sources.list, those kept-back packages
will appear (unless you upgrade them, of course). Probably, on the
assumption that sendmail and libmilter is sufficient for your needs,
you should change you sources.list back once those two upgrades are
done.
A
  
I have "APT::Default-Release "testing";" in my apt.conf file.  Is it 
still advised to remove the unstable lines from my sources.list file 
even though I have the above in my apt.conf file?


Thanks for you help.

Jeff  

Whoops, I sent this to the wrong list.  My apologies.

Jeff


I must be new at sending e-mail.  Trying to apologize to the Dovecot 
list about sending the message to the wrong list, I sent the apology 
e-mail here.  Wow, what a bad day with the fingers typing.


Sorry for the noise.

Jeff


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Re: hard disk device name change after reboot

[Owen Townend]

On Sun, 2007-11-04 at 13:55 -0800, Andrew Sackville-West wrote:
> On Sun, Nov 04, 2007 at 10:49:49PM +0800, hhding.gnu wrote:
> > hi list,
> > 
> > I run Debian 4.1.2-13 on Dell PowerEdge 650 with kernel
> > 2.6.21-2-686. When I install the debian, the device name of partition
> > is hda1, hda2. After install, I reboot it for times and it works. One
> > day, I find it fail to reboot, after waiting for root filesystem for a
> > while, Debian drop to shell(busybox). Then I notice the device name of
> > hard disk has automaticly changed to hde1,hde2. some times, the
> > devices name is changed to others like hdg1, hdg2, etc. after reboot.
> > 
> > What's the problem then? Can I fix the device name? Any clue for it
> > is appreciated. :-)
> > 
> 
> Not sure specifically what is causing this problem, but in the
> meantime, switch to using LABEL's or UUID's to identify disks. That
> way you can continue booting until you figure it out.
> 
> A

Hey,
  To elaborate, vol_id can get the uuid for a volume which you can then
use in fstab. Eg this ntfs sata disk partition I called 'Y' in windows.
  $ sudo vol_id /dev/sda1
  ID_FS_USAGE=filesystem
  ID_FS_TYPE=ntfs
  ID_FS_VERSION=3.1
  ID_FS_UUID=4862AAF824AADB2F   <--This part
  ID_FS_UUID_ENC=4862AAF824AADB2F
  ID_FS_LABEL=Y <--Or this part
  ID_FS_LABEL_ENC=Y
  ID_FS_LABEL_SAFE=Y

This then translates to a line like this in /etc/fstab

  # /dev/sda1
  UUID=4862AAF824AADB2F   /ntfs/Y ntfs-3g
rw,user,users,gid=users,umask=0002,en_AU.utf8   0   0

or 'LABEL=Y' would also work.

Doing this for all volumes renders device name changes a non-issue.

Hope this helps.
cheers,
Owen.

PS/NB: My linux partition uuids look slightly different e.g.
e029093d-b95f-434a-b005-ab4f807e2ca8
As generated by uuidgen.



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Could not find nfs package

[hce]

Hi,

I got an error "E: Couldn't find package nfs" while trying to install
nfs server by calling "apt-get install nfs". Is the nfs wrong nfs
server package name?

Thank you.

Jim


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Re: Could not find nfs package

[Owen Townend]

On Mon, 2007-11-05 at 11:04 +1100, hce wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> I got an error "E: Couldn't find package nfs" while trying to install
> nfs server by calling "apt-get install nfs". Is the nfs wrong nfs
> server package name?
> 
> Thank you.
> 
> Jim
> 
> 
Hey,
  Try `apt-cache search nfs`
  It should return the correct package names. 
  One of these is probably what you're after:

nfs-common - NFS support files common to client and server
nfs-kernel-server - support for NFS kernel server
nfs-user-server - User space NFS server


cheers,
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Re: Vá: home network behind a firew all/router

[Marty]

Pál Csányi wrote:


> I set up on both box-2 & box-3 the dhcp client to get the
> domain-name-servers, and have these servers in resolv.conf.

Did you enable packet forwarding on box 1?


Yes I did.
/proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward
is 1


Is shorewall masquerading for you?


No, I have not a public IP address yet, so I don't need it.


Typically you will need either IP masquerading or NAT, along with all 
appropriate modules/drivers (e.g. ethernet bridging.), to enable your local 
machines' packets to be routed, with is not possible with IP forwarding alone.


If you haven't done so already, please see the excellent networking HOWTO's on 
the subject.



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Minolta driver and management software for Linux

[jekillen]

Hello:
I am trying to set up a Minolta Magicolor QMS printer.
The printer is a postscript laser printer.
(The actual model number is QMS 6110 and it is dis-
continued). The printer is set up to connect via ether-
net.
I obtained the software for it  from the Konica Minolta
site today. It is Page Scope for Linux but the documen-
tation refers to Red Hat and Suse with 2.2.x kernels.
Does anyone have experience with this enough to tell
me if there might be compatibility issues, or special
considerations and issues particular to Debian.
I am running Debian etch on AMD64.
I was successful in getting it up on Mac OSX, but that
uses Appletalk. Actually, I have netatalk installed on
the Debian system. Is there advantage in using that?
I want to be able to print out of graphics programs like
Ink Scape, Blender, Gimp, etc and this is the first time
I have tackled printer setup on a Linux system.
Thanks in advance for assistance, advice, suggestions;
Jeff K


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Re: Could not find nfs package

[hce]

Thanks Owen. To run nfs server, should I install both nfs-common and
nfs-user-server, or just nfs-common?

Thank you.

Jim

On 11/5/07, Owen Townend <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> On Mon, 2007-11-05 at 11:04 +1100, hce wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > I got an error "E: Couldn't find package nfs" while trying to install
> > nfs server by calling "apt-get install nfs". Is the nfs wrong nfs
> > server package name?
> >
> > Thank you.
> >
> > Jim
> >
> >
> Hey,
>   Try `apt-cache search nfs`
>   It should return the correct package names.
>   One of these is probably what you're after:
>
> nfs-common - NFS support files common to client and server
> nfs-kernel-server - support for NFS kernel server
> nfs-user-server - User space NFS server
>
>
> cheers,
> Owen.
>
>


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Re: how to read http mails in mutt mail reader (vim)?

[hce]

Thanks Andy and other responses. It is a good solution although I wish
I could use the vim to read HTML with ability to click the URL links
like lynx (asking too much :-)).

Thank you.

Jim

On 11/4/07, Andy Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi Jim,
>
> On Sun, Nov 04, 2007 at 07:31:53PM +1100, hce wrote:
> > I've just installed mutt in Debian, one problem is there are some
> > mails from news lists with HTTP format, it was fine when I use Mozilla
> > mail reader, but with mutt and vim, I could not read the HTTP format
> > mails. One solution I can think of is to use lynx, but I don't know
> > how to config mutt with lynx. How do you handle this issue?
>
> If you mean HTML, there was a post to Planet Debian on this subject
> just yesterday:
>
> http://cord.de/blog/index.php?entry=entry071103-141719
>
> I do it that way too.
>
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> Andy
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Re: Could not find nfs package

[Owen Townend]

On Mon, 2007-11-05 at 11:25 +1100, hce wrote:
> Thanks Owen. To run nfs server, should I install both nfs-common and
> nfs-user-server, or just nfs-common?
> 
> Thank you.
> 
> Jim
> 
> On 11/5/07, Owen Townend <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > On Mon, 2007-11-05 at 11:04 +1100, hce wrote:
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > I got an error "E: Couldn't find package nfs" while trying to install
> > > nfs server by calling "apt-get install nfs". Is the nfs wrong nfs
> > > server package name?
> > >
> > > Thank you.
> > >
> > > Jim
> > >
> > >
> > Hey,
> >   Try `apt-cache search nfs`
> >   It should return the correct package names.
> >   One of these is probably what you're after:
> >
> > nfs-common - NFS support files common to client and server
> > nfs-kernel-server - support for NFS kernel server
> > nfs-user-server - User space NFS server
> >
> >
> > cheers,
> > Owen.
> >
> >
> 
> 

Hey,
  nfs-kernel-server depends on nfs-common but I don't believe the
userspace server does. Running `apt-get install nfs-user-server` will
tell you of the dependancies and resolve them if it can. You can also
use `apt-cache depend nfs-user-server` to find out.

cheers,
Owen.


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Re: Could not find nfs package

[Owen Townend]

On Mon, 2007-11-05 at 11:36 +1100, Owen Townend wrote:
> On Mon, 2007-11-05 at 11:25 +1100, hce wrote:
> > Thanks Owen. To run nfs server, should I install both nfs-common and
> > nfs-user-server, or just nfs-common?
> > 
> > Thank you.
> > 
> > Jim
> > 
> > On 11/5/07, Owen Townend <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >
> > > On Mon, 2007-11-05 at 11:04 +1100, hce wrote:
> > > > Hi,
> > > >
> > > > I got an error "E: Couldn't find package nfs" while trying to install
> > > > nfs server by calling "apt-get install nfs". Is the nfs wrong nfs
> > > > server package name?
> > > >
> > > > Thank you.
> > > >
> > > > Jim
> > > >
> > > >
> > > Hey,
> > >   Try `apt-cache search nfs`
> > >   It should return the correct package names.
> > >   One of these is probably what you're after:
> > >
> > > nfs-common - NFS support files common to client and server
> > > nfs-kernel-server - support for NFS kernel server
> > > nfs-user-server - User space NFS server
> > >
> > >
> > > cheers,
> > > Owen.
> > >
> > >
> > 
> > 
> 
> Hey,
>   nfs-kernel-server depends on nfs-common but I don't believe the
> userspace server does. Running `apt-get install nfs-user-server` will
> tell you of the dependancies and resolve them if it can. You can also
> use `apt-cache depend nfs-user-server` to find out.
> 
> cheers,
> Owen.
> 
> 
btw, to actually answer the question, nfs-common doesn't include a
server, it has the needed dependencies for a client and the overlap with
the servers. The server packages extend on the common package with the
actual server files.
The userspace server seems to directly depend on the needed basics
(portmap etc) instead of the nfs-common package.

summary:
nfs-common alone = client
nfs-kernel-server + nfs-common = kernel server
nfs-user-server + (dependencies) = userspace server

cheers,
Owen.


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Re: Could not find nfs package

[hce]

On 11/5/07, Owen Townend <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> On Mon, 2007-11-05 at 11:25 +1100, hce wrote:
> > Thanks Owen. To run nfs server, should I install both nfs-common and
> > nfs-user-server, or just nfs-common?
> >
> > Thank you.
> >
> > Jim
> >
> > On 11/5/07, Owen Townend <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >
> > > On Mon, 2007-11-05 at 11:04 +1100, hce wrote:
> > > > Hi,
> > > >
> > > > I got an error "E: Couldn't find package nfs" while trying to install
> > > > nfs server by calling "apt-get install nfs". Is the nfs wrong nfs
> > > > server package name?
> > > >
> > > > Thank you.
> > > >
> > > > Jim
> > > >
> > > >
> > > Hey,
> > >   Try `apt-cache search nfs`
> > >   It should return the correct package names.
> > >   One of these is probably what you're after:
> > >
> > > nfs-common - NFS support files common to client and server
> > > nfs-kernel-server - support for NFS kernel server
> > > nfs-user-server - User space NFS server
> > >
> > >
> > > cheers,
> > > Owen.
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
> Hey,
>   nfs-kernel-server depends on nfs-common but I don't believe the
> userspace server does. Running `apt-get install nfs-user-server` will
> tell you of the dependancies and resolve them if it can. You can also
> use `apt-cache depend nfs-user-server` to find out.

Thanks  Owen, I installed nfs-user-server and added /etc/exports. But,
could not find exportfs in /sbin or /usr/sbin, I thought the exportfs
is included in nfs server packet, seems I got wrong. I did "apt-cache
search exportfs", nothing happend?

Thank you.

Jim


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Re: Could not find nfs package

[Owen Townend]

On Mon, 2007-11-05 at 11:49 +1100, hce wrote:
> On 11/5/07, Owen Townend <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > On Mon, 2007-11-05 at 11:25 +1100, hce wrote:
> > > Thanks Owen. To run nfs server, should I install both nfs-common and
> > > nfs-user-server, or just nfs-common?
> > >
> > > Thank you.
> > >
> > > Jim
> > >
> > > On 11/5/07, Owen Townend <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > On Mon, 2007-11-05 at 11:04 +1100, hce wrote:
> > > > > Hi,
> > > > >
> > > > > I got an error "E: Couldn't find package nfs" while trying to install
> > > > > nfs server by calling "apt-get install nfs". Is the nfs wrong nfs
> > > > > server package name?
> > > > >
> > > > > Thank you.
> > > > >
> > > > > Jim
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > Hey,
> > > >   Try `apt-cache search nfs`
> > > >   It should return the correct package names.
> > > >   One of these is probably what you're after:
> > > >
> > > > nfs-common - NFS support files common to client and server
> > > > nfs-kernel-server - support for NFS kernel server
> > > > nfs-user-server - User space NFS server
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > cheers,
> > > > Owen.
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> > Hey,
> >   nfs-kernel-server depends on nfs-common but I don't believe the
> > userspace server does. Running `apt-get install nfs-user-server` will
> > tell you of the dependencies and resolve them if it can. You can also
> > use `apt-cache depend nfs-user-server` to find out.
> 
> Thanks  Owen, I installed nfs-user-server and added /etc/exports. But,
> could not find exportfs in /sbin or /usr/sbin, I thought the exportfs
> is included in nfs server packet, seems I got wrong. I did "apt-cache
> search exportfs", nothing happened?
> 
> Thank you.
> 
> Jim
> 
> 

Interesting,
  I have the kernel server installed along with nfs-common and I
have /usr/sbin/exportfs. Perhaps it comes with the common package. 
  I don't have any experience with the userspace server, the kernel
server is (by accounts/testimonials) faster & easier and I have physical
& root access to my servers so it's not an issue. Any particular reason
you're choosing the userspace server?

cheers,
Owen.


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Re: Minolta driver and management software for Linux

[Raj Kiran Grandhi]

jekillen wrote:

Hello:
I am trying to set up a Minolta Magicolor QMS printer.
The printer is a postscript laser printer.
(The actual model number is QMS 6110 and it is dis-
continued). The printer is set up to connect via ether-
net.
I obtained the software for it  from the Konica Minolta
site today. It is Page Scope for Linux but the documen-
tation refers to Red Hat and Suse with 2.2.x kernels.


If it is a postscript printer and the manufacturer has provided you with 
the .ppd file, you should be able use that ppd file to print to the 
printer. You might want to install cupsys and go to http://localhost:631 
for installing and configuring your printer



Does anyone have experience with this enough to tell
me if there might be compatibility issues, or special
considerations and issues particular to Debian.
I am running Debian etch on AMD64.
I was successful in getting it up on Mac OSX, but that
uses Appletalk. Actually, I have netatalk installed on
the Debian system. Is there advantage in using that?
I want to be able to print out of graphics programs like
Ink Scape, Blender, Gimp, etc and this is the first time
I have tackled printer setup on a Linux system.
Thanks in advance for assistance, advice, suggestions;
Jeff K





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bootsplash ramble

[Mark Grieveson]

I tried setting up bootsplash, on my Etch box, and have failed
miserably.  I installed it, and messed around with
the /boot/grub/menu.lst file, adding "vga=791 splash=silent" to the
kernel line.  It made the print smaller, but did not give me a nifty
bootsplash.  I then attempted to recompile my kernel, as instructed (a
hell of a thing to have to do just to get a bootsplash, but, well,
since I had started.)  

Anyway, first using menuconfig, and then xconfig, I was unable to find
any entry for "Console drivers".  I did find some framebuffer stuff,
but nothing about "Use splash screen instead of boot logo", as I was
instructed to turn on.  I did find something about turning on a penguin
during bootup (the "boot logo", maybe?).  I checked that, just so that
I could say to myself, "Well, at least I did SOMETHING".  Now, hours
later, I'm still waiting for the revised kernel to finish its stuff,
via the command fakeroot make-kpkg --initrd --append-to-version=-custom
kernel_image kernel_headers.

Yikes.  Has anyone else succeeded with bootsplash?

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Re: Which browser is better, firefox?

[Dotan Cohen]

On 04/11/2007, Manon Metten <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On 11/4/07, BartlebyScrivener <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
> > > This means, Iceweasel *is* Firefox just with another name.
> >
> > Yes, usually. But it also wreaks havoc with certain sites because the
> > user agent says "ice weasel" which most sites don't recognize. If you
> > stay with ice weasel, I recommend the firefox user agent switcher
> > plugin if you have any problems with scripts not running etc.
>
> Or in about:config set "general .useragent.extra.firefox" to
> "Firefox/2.0.0.8".
>
> Manon.
>

Or write to the websites that do UA sniffing and serve mungled content
to each browser. Tell them to write standard, valid code.

Dotan Cohen

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http://gibberish.co.il
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A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text.
Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing?

Re: bootsplash ramble

[Kumar Appaiah]

On Sun, Nov 04, 2007 at 08:22:30PM -0500, Mark Grieveson wrote:
> Anyway, first using menuconfig, and then xconfig, I was unable to find
> any entry for "Console drivers".  I did find some framebuffer stuff,
> but nothing about "Use splash screen instead of boot logo", as I was
> instructed to turn on.  I did find something about turning on a penguin
> during bootup (the "boot logo", maybe?).  I checked that, just so that
> I could say to myself, "Well, at least I did SOMETHING".  Now, hours
> later, I'm still waiting for the revised kernel to finish its stuff,
> via the command fakeroot make-kpkg --initrd --append-to-version=-custom
> kernel_image kernel_headers.
> 
> Yikes.  Has anyone else succeeded with bootsplash?

Well, I do think you need to patch your kernel and take a bit more
pains. See this, it has worked for me earlier:
http://www.oreilly.com/pub/h/3124

HTH.

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debian 4.0 can't detect PCMCIA lan card

[babynewton]

Hi.
I have one problem while installing debian 4.0 on tecra530cdt with
PCMCIA lancard.
I used floppy image to install because cd rom drive is not available.
Installer detected PCMCIA card and completed installation on PCMCIA lancard.
However, debian after rebooting can't detect PCMCIA.
It's new in debian 4.0. debian 3.1 successfully detected PCMCIA after
rebooting.
Does anybody know how to detect it?
thank you.


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Re: how to read http mails in mutt mail reader (vim)?

[Wayne Topa]

hce([EMAIL PROTECTED]) is reported to have said:

> Thanks Andy and other responses. It is a good solution although I wish
> I could use the vim to read HTML with ability to click the URL links
> like lynx (asking too much :-)).
> 

No, you are not asking too much.

Read the vim manual section on mailcap.  Then setup your own .mailcap
file and then you can read HTML mail in mutt.

To be able to click on a URL when you need to install and set up the
urlview package.

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Re: hard disk device name change after reboot

[hhding.gnu]

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It seems it works with some filesystem and do *NOT* work for swap
partition. here as I show below, hde1 is swap partition and there are
no label or uuid exists. as I know, tune2fs can add uuid or label for
ext2/ext3 partitions. How can I add uuid or label for swap partition
then?

Another question is, can I add uuid as device name in grub's menu.lst?
(something like kernel /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.17-2-686 root=/dev/sde2 ro)

cc:~# /lib/udev/vol_id /dev/hde1
ID_FS_USAGE=other
ID_FS_TYPE=swap
ID_FS_VERSION=2
ID_FS_UUID=
ID_FS_UUID_ENC=
ID_FS_LABEL=
ID_FS_LABEL_ENC=
ID_FS_LABEL_SAFE=
cc:~# /lib/udev/vol_id /dev/hde2
ID_FS_USAGE=filesystem
ID_FS_TYPE=ext3
ID_FS_VERSION=1.0
ID_FS_UUID=b9599834-8d37-41fb-9389-c3394c9ea21f
ID_FS_UUID_ENC=b9599834-8d37-41fb-9389-c3394c9ea21f
ID_FS_LABEL=
ID_FS_LABEL_ENC=
ID_FS_LABEL_SAFE=
cc:~# tune2fs -l /dev/hde2 | grep UUID
Filesystem UUID: b9599834-8d37-41fb-9389-c3394c9ea21f
cc:~#


Owen Townend 写道:
> On Sun, 2007-11-04 at 13:55 -0800, Andrew Sackville-West wrote:
>> On Sun, Nov 04, 2007 at 10:49:49PM +0800, hhding.gnu wrote:
>>> hi list,
>>>
>>> I run Debian 4.1.2-13 on Dell PowerEdge 650 with kernel
>>> 2.6.21-2-686. When I install the debian, the device name of
>>> partition is hda1, hda2. After install, I reboot it for times
>>> and it works. One day, I find it fail to reboot, after waiting
>>> for root filesystem for a while, Debian drop to shell(busybox).
>>> Then I notice the device name of hard disk has automaticly
>>> changed to hde1,hde2. some times, the devices name is changed
>>> to others like hdg1, hdg2, etc. after reboot.
>>>
>>> What's the problem then? Can I fix the device name? Any clue
>>> for it is appreciated. :-)
>>>
>> Not sure specifically what is causing this problem, but in the
>> meantime, switch to using LABEL's or UUID's to identify disks.
>> That way you can continue booting until you figure it out.
>>
>> A
>
> Hey, To elaborate, vol_id can get the uuid for a volume which you
> can then use in fstab. Eg this ntfs sata disk partition I called
> 'Y' in windows. $ sudo vol_id /dev/sda1 ID_FS_USAGE=filesystem
> ID_FS_TYPE=ntfs ID_FS_VERSION=3.1 ID_FS_UUID=4862AAF824AADB2F
> <--This part ID_FS_UUID_ENC=4862AAF824AADB2F ID_FS_LABEL=Y <--Or
> this part ID_FS_LABEL_ENC=Y ID_FS_LABEL_SAFE=Y
>
> This then translates to a line like this in /etc/fstab
>
> # /dev/sda1 UUID=4862AAF824AADB2F /ntfs/Y ntfs-3g
> rw,user,users,gid=users,umask=0002,en_AU.utf8 0 0
>
> or 'LABEL=Y' would also work.
>
> Doing this for all volumes renders device name changes a non-issue.
>
>
> Hope this helps. cheers, Owen.
>
> PS/NB: My linux partition uuids look slightly different e.g.
> e029093d-b95f-434a-b005-ab4f807e2ca8 As generated by uuidgen.
>
>
>
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Windows programs report 1 cpu, Debian and Ubuntu report 2

[Ron Savage]

Problem:
Windows programs report 1 cpu, Debian and Ubuntu report 2.

Prior art:
I've scanned the subjects of debian-user emails from
Apr to Nov, but didn't see this problem discussed.

Hardware:
2 hard disks, Win2K on 1 and the following on the other...

Install history:
Thu Nov 1: Debian 4.0
Fri Nov 2: Ubuntu 7.10
Sat Nov 3: Ubuntu 7.04
and then   Debian 4.0
and then   Ubuntu 7.10
Sun Nov 4: FreeBSD 6.2
and then   Debian 4.0

Reports:
Hardware as seen by Belarc Security Advisor under Windows:
http://savage.net.au/debian.ubuntu/win2k.belarc.report.html (inc mobo)
And as seen by CPUINFO under Windows:
http://savage.net.au/debian.ubuntu/win2k.cpuinfo.png
And as seen by lspci under Debian 4.0:
http://savage.net.au/debian.ubuntu/debian.4.0.lspci.log
And as seen by lspci under Ubuntu 7.04:
http://savage.net.au/debian.ubuntu/ubuntu.7.04.lspci.log
And as seen by lspci under Ubuntu 7.10:
http://savage.net.au/debian.ubuntu/ubuntu.7.10.lspci.log
And as seen by /proc/cpuinfo under Debian 4.0:
http://savage.net.au/debian.ubuntu/debian.4.0.proc.cpuinfo.log
And as seen by /proc/cpuinfo under Ubuntu 7.04:
http://savage.net.au/debian.ubuntu/ubuntu.7.04.proc.cpuinfo.log
And as seen by /proc/cpuinfo under Ubuntu 7.10:
http://savage.net.au/debian.ubuntu/ubuntu.7.10.proc.cpuinfo.log
And as seen by system monitor under Debian 4.0:
http://savage.net.au/debian.ubuntu/debian.4.0.system.monitor.png
And as seen by system monitor under Ubuntu 7.04:
http://savage.net.au/debian.ubuntu/ubuntu.7.04.system.monitor.png
And as seen by system monitor under Ubuntu 7.10:
http://savage.net.au/debian.ubuntu/ubuntu.7.10.system.monitor.png

Any ideas why the OSes don't agree on the CPU count?
Please don't bother posting cynicism about Windows, or wild guesses.
And, yes, I've heard some dual-core chips with 1 faulty core are
sold as mono-core, but even that doesn't explain the discrepancy.

TIA.

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Re: Could not find nfs package

[hce]

On 11/5/07, Owen Townend <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> On Mon, 2007-11-05 at 11:49 +1100, hce wrote:
> > On 11/5/07, Owen Townend <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >
> > > On Mon, 2007-11-05 at 11:25 +1100, hce wrote:
> > > > Thanks Owen. To run nfs server, should I install both nfs-common and
> > > > nfs-user-server, or just nfs-common?
> > > >
> > > > Thank you.
> > > >
> > > > Jim
> > > >
> > > > On 11/5/07, Owen Townend <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > On Mon, 2007-11-05 at 11:04 +1100, hce wrote:
> > > > > > Hi,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I got an error "E: Couldn't find package nfs" while trying to 
> > > > > > install
> > > > > > nfs server by calling "apt-get install nfs". Is the nfs wrong nfs
> > > > > > server package name?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Thank you.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Jim
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > Hey,
> > > > >   Try `apt-cache search nfs`
> > > > >   It should return the correct package names.
> > > > >   One of these is probably what you're after:
> > > > >
> > > > > nfs-common - NFS support files common to client and server
> > > > > nfs-kernel-server - support for NFS kernel server
> > > > > nfs-user-server - User space NFS server
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > cheers,
> > > > > Owen.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > Hey,
> > >   nfs-kernel-server depends on nfs-common but I don't believe the
> > > userspace server does. Running `apt-get install nfs-user-server` will
> > > tell you of the dependencies and resolve them if it can. You can also
> > > use `apt-cache depend nfs-user-server` to find out.
> >
> > Thanks  Owen, I installed nfs-user-server and added /etc/exports. But,
> > could not find exportfs in /sbin or /usr/sbin, I thought the exportfs
> > is included in nfs server packet, seems I got wrong. I did "apt-cache
> > search exportfs", nothing happened?
> >
> > Thank you.
> >
> > Jim
> >
> >
>
> Interesting,
>   I have the kernel server installed along with nfs-common and I
> have /usr/sbin/exportfs. Perhaps it comes with the common package.
>   I don't have any experience with the userspace server, the kernel
> server is (by accounts/testimonials) faster & easier and I have physical
> & root access to my servers so it's not an issue. Any particular reason
> you're choosing the userspace server?
>
> cheers,
> Owen.

I've changed to kernel server, that works. I am from FC where
installation of packages are different to Debian.

Thank you Owen.

Jim


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Re: bootsplash ramble

[Michael Biebl]

Mark Grieveson schrieb:
> I tried setting up bootsplash, on my Etch box, and have failed
> miserably.  I installed it, and messed around with
> the /boot/grub/menu.lst file, adding "vga=791 splash=silent" to the
> kernel line.  It made the print smaller, but did not give me a nifty
> bootsplash.  I then attempted to recompile my kernel, as instructed (a
> hell of a thing to have to do just to get a bootsplash, but, well,
> since I had started.)  
> 
> Anyway, first using menuconfig, and then xconfig, I was unable to find
> any entry for "Console drivers".  I did find some framebuffer stuff,
> but nothing about "Use splash screen instead of boot logo", as I was
> instructed to turn on.  I did find something about turning on a penguin
> during bootup (the "boot logo", maybe?).  I checked that, just so that
> I could say to myself, "Well, at least I did SOMETHING".  Now, hours
> later, I'm still waiting for the revised kernel to finish its stuff,
> via the command fakeroot make-kpkg --initrd --append-to-version=-custom
> kernel_image kernel_headers.
> 
> Yikes.  Has anyone else succeeded with bootsplash?

Install splashy. No kernel patching necessary.

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How to check tftp server is running?

[hce]

Hi,

I've just installed tftp and tftpd package by apt-get. But, I could
not see the tftp server running. Actually, I could not figure out
where is the tftp script. In FC6, the tftp script is in xinit.d. In
Debian, there is not xinit.d.

How can I check whether the tftp server is running or not? And, if
not, which command I can call to run the tftp server?

Thank you.

Jim


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Re: How to check tftp server is running?

[Jeff Grossman]

hce wrote:

Hi,

I've just installed tftp and tftpd package by apt-get. But, I could
not see the tftp server running. Actually, I could not figure out
where is the tftp script. In FC6, the tftp script is in xinit.d. In
Debian, there is not xinit.d.

How can I check whether the tftp server is running or not? And, if
not, which command I can call to run the tftp server?

Thank you.

Jim


  
I don't think Debian uses xinetd by default.  It puts everything in the 
inetd.conf file.  You can manually move the entries over to an xinetd file.


Jeff


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Re: Windows programs report 1 cpu, Debian and Ubuntu report 2

[John Hasler]

Hyperthreading.
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Re: How to check tftp server is running?

[hce]

On 11/5/07, Jeff Grossman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> hce wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > I've just installed tftp and tftpd package by apt-get. But, I could
> > not see the tftp server running. Actually, I could not figure out
> > where is the tftp script. In FC6, the tftp script is in xinit.d. In
> > Debian, there is not xinit.d.
> >
> > How can I check whether the tftp server is running or not? And, if
> > not, which command I can call to run the tftp server?
> >
> > Thank you.
> >
> > Jim
> >
> >
> >
> I don't think Debian uses xinetd by default.  It puts everything in the
> inetd.conf file.  You can manually move the entries over to an xinetd file.

Indeed, the tftp is in inetd.conf file.  But, how can I
run/restart/stop tftp server? Also, how can I check whether the tftp
server is running or not? I checked ps and grep with in.tftpd, but
could not find it.

Thank you Jeff.

Jim


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Re: How to check tftp server is running?

[Andrew Sackville-West]

On Mon, Nov 05, 2007 at 03:14:05PM +1100, hce wrote:
> On 11/5/07, Jeff Grossman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > hce wrote:
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > I've just installed tftp and tftpd package by apt-get. But, I could
> > > not see the tftp server running. Actually, I could not figure out
> > > where is the tftp script. In FC6, the tftp script is in xinit.d. In
> > > Debian, there is not xinit.d.
> > >
> > > How can I check whether the tftp server is running or not? And, if
> > > not, which command I can call to run the tftp server?
> > >
> > > Thank you.
> > >
> > > Jim
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > I don't think Debian uses xinetd by default.  It puts everything in the
> > inetd.conf file.  You can manually move the entries over to an xinetd file.

probably you should avoid inet.d and just start the service directly.

> 
> Indeed, the tftp is in inetd.conf file.  But, how can I
> run/restart/stop tftp server? Also, how can I check whether the tftp
> server is running or not? I checked ps and grep with in.tftpd, but
> could not find it.

in debian services are started with an init script stored in
/etc/init.d/ and linked to various runlevels in /etc/rc[S123456].d/

to start the service use either

/etc/init.d/ start 

or

invoke-rc.d  start

to check the status of a service, look at ps -e (grepping as
appropriate) or check 

invoke-rc.d  status

(or /etc/init.d/)

personally, i like the /etc/init.d/ route as you get tab completion of
a service name, if you happen to not remember it exactly.

Many services won't actually start unless they are enabled in
/etc/default/, so if you start a service and it doesn't
seem to work, check there.

hth

A


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Re: Could not find nfs package

[Andrew Sackville-West]

On Mon, Nov 05, 2007 at 02:17:10PM +1100, hce wrote:
> I am from FC where
> installation of packages are different to Debian.
>

welcome to the dark side

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Re: hard disk device name change after reboot

[Andrew Sackville-West]

On Mon, Nov 05, 2007 at 10:26:52AM +0800, hhding.gnu wrote:
> It seems it works with some filesystem and do *NOT* work for swap
> partition. here as I show below, hde1 is swap partition and there are
> no label or uuid exists. as I know, tune2fs can add uuid or label for
> ext2/ext3 partitions. How can I add uuid or label for swap partition
> then?
> 

sorry no help on swap.

> Another question is, can I add uuid as device name in grub's menu.lst?
> (something like kernel /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.17-2-686 root=/dev/sde2 ro)

root=uuid=/dev/sde2, I think.

A


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Re: How to check tftp server is running?

[Jeff Grossman]

hce wrote:

On 11/5/07, Jeff Grossman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
  

hce wrote:


Hi,

I've just installed tftp and tftpd package by apt-get. But, I could
not see the tftp server running. Actually, I could not figure out
where is the tftp script. In FC6, the tftp script is in xinit.d. In
Debian, there is not xinit.d.

How can I check whether the tftp server is running or not? And, if
not, which command I can call to run the tftp server?

Thank you.

Jim



  

I don't think Debian uses xinetd by default.  It puts everything in the
inetd.conf file.  You can manually move the entries over to an xinetd file.



Indeed, the tftp is in inetd.conf file.  But, how can I
run/restart/stop tftp server? Also, how can I check whether the tftp
server is running or not? I checked ps and grep with in.tftpd, but
could not find it.

Thank you Jeff.

Jim


  
Anything running from inetd is not running all of the time.  Processes 
that start from inetd only start when a connection from the outside hits 
that port.  There is no daemon program running when run form inetd.  I 
am not sure if tftpd is a daemon type server.


Jeff


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Re: How to check tftp server is running?

[Jeff Grossman]

Andrew Sackville-West wrote:

On Mon, Nov 05, 2007 at 03:14:05PM +1100, hce wrote:
  

On 11/5/07, Jeff Grossman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


hce wrote:
  

Hi,

I've just installed tftp and tftpd package by apt-get. But, I could
not see the tftp server running. Actually, I could not figure out
where is the tftp script. In FC6, the tftp script is in xinit.d. In
Debian, there is not xinit.d.

How can I check whether the tftp server is running or not? And, if
not, which command I can call to run the tftp server?

Thank you.

Jim





I don't think Debian uses xinetd by default.  It puts everything in the
inetd.conf file.  You can manually move the entries over to an xinetd file.
  


probably you should avoid inet.d and just start the service directly.

  

Indeed, the tftp is in inetd.conf file.  But, how can I
run/restart/stop tftp server? Also, how can I check whether the tftp
server is running or not? I checked ps and grep with in.tftpd, but
could not find it.



in debian services are started with an init script stored in
/etc/init.d/ and linked to various runlevels in /etc/rc[S123456].d/

to start the service use either

/etc/init.d/ start 


or

invoke-rc.d  start

to check the status of a service, look at ps -e (grepping as
appropriate) or check 


invoke-rc.d  status

(or /etc/init.d/)

personally, i like the /etc/init.d/ route as you get tab completion of
a service name, if you happen to not remember it exactly.

Many services won't actually start unless they are enabled in
/etc/default/, so if you start a service and it doesn't
seem to work, check there.

hth

A
  
I looked at the files listing in packages.debian.org for the tftpd 
program.  It does not install anything in /etc/init.d.  I am not sure if 
that program can run as a daemon.


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multimedia driver support questions...

[Peter]

running Debian Etch.   I have an HP slimline 3120 (AMD Athlon(tm) 64 X2 Dual
Core Processor 4200+)
with an MCP51 chipset providing HDA sound.

sound quibble:
-- when I plug my speakers into 'front' speaker jack (green in the pack)
I only get a mono signal, and output only on the right channel.
   -- if I plug into the jack for these 2.1 speakers into the earphone jack,
and I get stereo. but the balance doesn't work.

Tuner card:
  -- There is a tv tuner in the PCI slot.  I think it is this thing (from
lspci -v)

02:09.0 Multimedia controller: Unknown device 1745:2100
Subsystem: ASUSTeK Computer Inc. Unknown device 48a3
Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 32, IRQ 11
Memory at fde0 (32-bit, prefetchable) [size=1M]
Memory at fdbe (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=64K]
Capabilities: [40] Power Management version 2


Any idea how to get video4linux to recognize it, so that I can have mythtv
use it?


Multimedia card reader:
  There is one on the front of the case, but I can see nothing in lspci
or lsusb which would indicate
what device this is.  It doesn't work.

Re: How to check tftp server is running?

[hce]

On 11/5/07, Andrew Sackville-West <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Mon, Nov 05, 2007 at 03:14:05PM +1100, hce wrote:
> > On 11/5/07, Jeff Grossman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > hce wrote:
> > > > Hi,
> > > >
> > > > I've just installed tftp and tftpd package by apt-get. But, I could
> > > > not see the tftp server running. Actually, I could not figure out
> > > > where is the tftp script. In FC6, the tftp script is in xinit.d. In
> > > > Debian, there is not xinit.d.
> > > >
> > > > How can I check whether the tftp server is running or not? And, if
> > > > not, which command I can call to run the tftp server?
> > > >
> > > > Thank you.
> > > >
> > > > Jim
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > I don't think Debian uses xinetd by default.  It puts everything in the
> > > inetd.conf file.  You can manually move the entries over to an xinetd 
> > > file.
>
> probably you should avoid inet.d and just start the service directly.
>
> >
> > Indeed, the tftp is in inetd.conf file.  But, how can I
> > run/restart/stop tftp server? Also, how can I check whether the tftp
> > server is running or not? I checked ps and grep with in.tftpd, but
> > could not find it.
>
> in debian services are started with an init script stored in
> /etc/init.d/ and linked to various runlevels in /etc/rc[S123456].d/

I've checked in /etc/init.d, there is no tftp, nor tftpd. I did
installed by "apt-get install tftp" and "apt-get install tftpd". Where
are those scripts? Or did I installed wrong tftp packages?

> to start the service use either
>
> /etc/init.d/ start

That is the same way in FC where service script can be
start/stop/restart. But, I could not find tftp or tftpd scripts.

> or
>
> invoke-rc.d  start
>
> to check the status of a service, look at ps -e (grepping as
> appropriate) or check
>
> invoke-rc.d  status

I've tried "/usr/sbin/invoke-rc.d tftpd status" with following error:

invoke-rc.d: unknown initscript, /etc/init.d/tftpd not found.

Thank you.

Jim

> (or /etc/init.d/)
>
> personally, i like the /etc/init.d/ route as you get tab completion of
> a service name, if you happen to not remember it exactly.
>
> Many services won't actually start unless they are enabled in
> /etc/default/, so if you start a service and it doesn't
> seem to work, check there.
>
> hth
>
> A
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Re: How to check tftp server is running?

[Jeff Grossman]

hce wrote:

On 11/5/07, Andrew Sackville-West <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
  

On Mon, Nov 05, 2007 at 03:14:05PM +1100, hce wrote:


On 11/5/07, Jeff Grossman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
  

hce wrote:


Hi,

I've just installed tftp and tftpd package by apt-get. But, I could
not see the tftp server running. Actually, I could not figure out
where is the tftp script. In FC6, the tftp script is in xinit.d. In
Debian, there is not xinit.d.

How can I check whether the tftp server is running or not? And, if
not, which command I can call to run the tftp server?

Thank you.

Jim



  

I don't think Debian uses xinetd by default.  It puts everything in the
inetd.conf file.  You can manually move the entries over to an xinetd file.


probably you should avoid inet.d and just start the service directly.



Indeed, the tftp is in inetd.conf file.  But, how can I
run/restart/stop tftp server? Also, how can I check whether the tftp
server is running or not? I checked ps and grep with in.tftpd, but
could not find it.
  

in debian services are started with an init script stored in
/etc/init.d/ and linked to various runlevels in /etc/rc[S123456].d/



I've checked in /etc/init.d, there is no tftp, nor tftpd. I did
installed by "apt-get install tftp" and "apt-get install tftpd". Where
are those scripts? Or did I installed wrong tftp packages?

  

to start the service use either

/etc/init.d/ start



That is the same way in FC where service script can be
start/stop/restart. But, I could not find tftp or tftpd scripts.

  

or

invoke-rc.d  start

to check the status of a service, look at ps -e (grepping as
appropriate) or check

invoke-rc.d  status



I've tried "/usr/sbin/invoke-rc.d tftpd status" with following error:

invoke-rc.d: unknown initscript, /etc/init.d/tftpd not found.

Thank you.

Jim

  

(or /etc/init.d/)

personally, i like the /etc/init.d/ route as you get tab completion of
a service name, if you happen to not remember it exactly.

Many services won't actually start unless they are enabled in
/etc/default/, so if you start a service and it doesn't
seem to work, check there.

hth

A

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It looks like there is a program called atftpd which allows running from 
inetd or as a daemon.  You might want to look into that program.  I 
always use http://packages.debian.org when researching packages.  But, 
that is just my preference.


Jeff


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Re: Intel Deluxe PC Camera

[Marc Shapiro]

Andrew Sackville-West wrote:

On Sun, Nov 04, 2007 at 08:34:20AM -0800, Marc Shapiro wrote:
  

Andrew Sackville-West wrote:


On Sun, Nov 04, 2007 at 08:27:53AM +0100, Thierry Chatelet wrote:
  
  

On Sunday 04 November 2007 07:35, John Schmidt wrote:



On Sunday 04 November 2007, Marc Shapiro wrote:
  
  

It looks like the driver module that I need is spca501.  There is a
source package for Etch:

spca5xx-source




Do this:

sudo m-a

It will put up a dialogue box, and then you need to first prepare the 
build

by downloading the kernel headers.  Then choose select and check the
spca5xx-source, and it should download it for you.  Then build it and
install it.  These are all menu selectable items in module assitant.

  
  
Unless I am mistaking, I read somewhere that spca5xx was for kernel up to 
2.6.11, for later kernel you need gspca-sources.



You are correct.
  
  
So, do I follow the instructions that John gave above and substitute 
gspca-source for spca5xx-source?



yep, but take note of John's continuation of this thread. I'm not sure
what he'd doing there, but it may apply to your situation.

A
  

Well, I tried to follow the above instructions, but...

I didn't have the kernel headers for my 2.6.16 kernel and they do not 
seem to be available in the Etch repository.  I took this as a sign that 
it was time to upgrade my kernel and upgraded to 2.6.22-3-k7 from 
backports.  Then I reran module-assistant.


This time, m-a found and downloaded the kernel headers.  I then selected 
the module to compile.  The gspca-source was not listed, so I used the 
spca5xx-source.  When I tried to build the sources, however, the build 
failed.  The logfile contained nothing but the date and time, so I have 
no specific errors to report.  It may be that the problem is using 
spca5xx-source instead of gspca-source, but that was not listed as an 
option.  If I download it manually, might m-a find it and allow me to 
use it.


Any ideas on what I should try next?

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Re: hard disk device name change after reboot

[Andrew Sackville-West]

On Sun, Nov 04, 2007 at 08:26:03PM -0800, Andrew Sackville-West wrote:
> On Mon, Nov 05, 2007 at 10:26:52AM +0800, hhding.gnu wrote:
> > It seems it works with some filesystem and do *NOT* work for swap
> > partition. here as I show below, hde1 is swap partition and there are
> > no label or uuid exists. as I know, tune2fs can add uuid or label for
> > ext2/ext3 partitions. How can I add uuid or label for swap partition
> > then?
> > 
> 
> sorry no help on swap.
> 
> > Another question is, can I add uuid as device name in grub's menu.lst?
> > (something like kernel /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.17-2-686 root=/dev/sde2 ro)
> 
> root=uuid=/dev/sde2, I think.

ummm... that should be

root=uuid=, I think.


A

> 
> A



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Re: How to check tftp server is running?

[Andrew Sackville-West]

On Mon, Nov 05, 2007 at 03:37:05PM +1100, hce wrote:
> On 11/5/07, Andrew Sackville-West <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
...
> >
> > in debian services are started with an init script stored in
> > /etc/init.d/ and linked to various runlevels in /etc/rc[S123456].d/
> 
> I've checked in /etc/init.d, there is no tftp, nor tftpd. I did
> installed by "apt-get install tftp" and "apt-get install tftpd". Where
> are those scripts? Or did I installed wrong tftp packages?

looks like you probably did install the wrong package.

Useful bits:

dpkg -L tftpd

will show you what files were installed by that package. 

to see what a package contains before installing it:

apt-cache show tftpd

will provide the package description and various details such as
dependencies.


Indeed, from packages.debian.org and the package description, looks
like tftpd expects to start form inet.d, so you'd have to put the
proper entries in inet.d.conf and will not see the daemon running
unless someone's actually connected. 


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Re: Intel Deluxe PC Camera

[Andrew Sackville-West]

On Sun, Nov 04, 2007 at 09:04:49PM -0800, Marc Shapiro wrote:
>
> I didn't have the kernel headers for my 2.6.16 kernel and they do not seem 
> to be available in the Etch repository.  I took this as a sign that it was 
> time to upgrade my kernel and upgraded to 2.6.22-3-k7 from backports.  Then 
> I reran module-assistant.

well, etch is running a version of 2.6.18, so you might installing the
current etch kernel before mucking around too much more...

>
> This time, m-a found and downloaded the kernel headers.  I then selected 
> the module to compile.  The gspca-source was not listed, so I used the 
> spca5xx-source.  When I tried to build the sources, however, the build 
> failed.  The logfile contained nothing but the date and time, so I have no 
> specific errors to report.  It may be that the problem is using 
> spca5xx-source instead of gspca-source, but that was not listed as an 
> option.  If I download it manually, might m-a find it and allow me to use 
> it.

m-a won't be able to use it without futzing around inthe source
directory and forcing m-a to *not* redownload the soruce package.

probably just easier to pull down the tarball from upstream and do the
typical make && make install.

>
> Any ideas on what I should try next?


as above, get the current etch kernel and headers, and try again. and
run through the whole m-a thing again as there are definitely
gspca-modules-2.6 for a whole bunch of architectures  Maybe it
doesn't show up in the m-a menu, but I know I've built it with m-a
from the command line.

hth.

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Re: Minolta driver and management software for Linux

[jekillen]

On Nov 4, 2007, at 5:07 PM, Raj Kiran Grandhi wrote:


jekillen wrote:

Hello:
I am trying to set up a Minolta Magicolor QMS printer.
The printer is a postscript laser printer.
(The actual model number is QMS 6110 and it is dis-
continued). The printer is set up to connect via ether-
net.
I obtained the software for it  from the Konica Minolta
site today. It is Page Scope for Linux but the documen-
tation refers to Red Hat and Suse with 2.2.x kernels.


If it is a postscript printer and the manufacturer has provided you 
with the .ppd file, you should be able use that ppd file to print to 
the printer. You might want to install cupsys and go to 
http://localhost:631 for installing and configuring your printer
Yes, I believe I do have the ppd file, it was with the software for the 
Mac OSX
set up. Where would I put the file? (a particular directory for that? 
Mac does have

a dedicated dir for those files).
thank you for your response.
Jeff K


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Re: Contacts printing

[Kevin Mark]

On Sun, Nov 04, 2007 at 08:51:25PM +0100, Rodolfo Medina wrote:
> On Mon, Oct 29, 2007 at 01:12:06PM +0100, Rodolfo Medina wrote:
> 
> >>> I wish a way to print the
> >>> Contacts (about 300) that I have stored in a directory, one per file.
> 
> 
> 
> Douglas A. Tutty" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> 
> >> I think you just need to write a script in your favorite language to
> >> parse the files and format it to your liking then just print it out.
> 
> 
> 
> Rodolfo:
>   
> > Every file is like this:
> >
> > BEGIN:VCARD
> > VERSION:2.1
> > N:;Oliver Hardy ;;;
> > TEL;CELL:3391234567
> > TEL;VOICE;HOME:081123567
> > FN:Oliver Hardy
> > END:VCARD
> >
> > , so the major problem would be sorting: how to sort whole items like
> > that?
> 
>  I want to cat all those file into one file and then sort the above
>  entries, I
>  don't know how.  I also want to eliminate redundant symbols and words 
>  like
>  `BEGIN:VCARD', `END:VCARD', `N:;', `VERSION:2.1' etc.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Raj Kiran Grandhi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> 
> > The following line will get you your contacts in a format you can import 
> > into
> > a spreadsheet.
> >
> > $ for file in /path/to/dir/*;do tail -n4 $file|head -n 3 \
> > |cut -f 2 -d :|xargs echo $(basename $file);done
> >
> > That will put the filename, the two phone numbers and name in each line. You
> > might want to replace the spaces with comma's and save the file to some name
> > ending with .csv to ease import into a spreadsheet
> 
> 
> Thanks!, the file is imported into the spreadsheet.  But the items are still
> not sorted, which remains the main problem (besides some coding problems).
> Any hint about that?
Sorted how?
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Re: Windows programs report 1 cpu, Debian and Ubuntu report 2

[Ron Savage]

John Hasler wrote:

Hyperthreading.


Hmmm. I see bit 28 - the HyperThreading bit - is set in the feature 
flags register of the cpu, so that looks like it.


I guess I'll let Debian utilize the feature without any input from me :-).

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Re: fglrx upgrade to 8.42.3

[Jonathan Kaye]

Davide Mancusi wrote:

> Jonathan Kaye ha scritto:
>> Following your message I checked out nexuiz and it runs fine with my card
>> and driver. I'm surprised that running the ATI-Installer gave you error
>> messages. I see 2 differences between our systems:
>> 1. You are using a 64bit kernel and I'm using a 32bit one (although I
>> have an AMD64 Athlalon Chip.
>> 2. I'm running lenny and you're running sid.
>> I think the 32 and 64bit versions use the same installation file, yes?
>> So if it's not related to one of those 2 differences I'm stumped. I don't
>> understand why just running the installation program with the --buildpkg
>> switch causes error in your system and not in mine.
> 
> Yes, Jonathan, as I hinted at in the previous post (see external link)
> the problem was that the ATI package has not been properly updated yet
> to reflect the changes that took place in the way Debian organises the
> GL libraries (they used to be in /usr/X11R6/lib*). It is possible to
> work around this by uncompressing the ATI package and creating an
> appropriate symlink. This happens only when building for amd64.
> 
> In the meantime, I have found out that nexuiz runs fine if I run it
> with the -safe switch; it runs windowed and I think some effects are
> disabled. Probably ATI broke some of the GLX extensions in the 8.40 -->
> 8.42 upgrade.
> 
> Thank you very much for your help anyway! I have posted a bug on the
> ATI bugzilla and if something pops up, I will post here again.
> 
> Davide
> 
Well done, Davide. I'm glad you got it working.
Cheers,
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Re: Programmers Text Editor

[William Pursell]

Richard wrote:


What editors (IDE or RAD) environment application would work
or if needed to run 2 or 3 different editors that would be fine too.

(please no: emacs or vi (or command line apps) 


wanting something that would be better than xcode on the mac,
which contain all libraries, and syntax for dozen of languages,
it just made it easier to type and see a drop down command choice,
from the contextual menu. with a built-in debugger..neat.


Why do you refuse emacs and vi(m)?  They both provide syntax
highlighting for hundreds of languages and a built-in
debugger.  (At least, it's built-in from the user's perspective,
but by being not actually builtin you get get far more
flexibility).  I don't know what you mean by "contain all
libraries" nor precisely what you mean by "drop down
command choice", but you certainly get auto-completion,
commands, help, etc in a drop down menu.  (I'm really
only speaking for vim here, but I assume emacs provides
all of this functionality as well.)

I guess I'm suggesting that you seriously question why
you are rejecting out of hand the two best choices for
development on Linux.


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Re: Intel Deluxe PC Camera

[John Schmidt]

On Sunday 04 November 2007, Marc Shapiro wrote:

>
> Well, I tried to follow the above instructions, but...
>
> I didn't have the kernel headers for my 2.6.16 kernel and they do not
> seem to be available in the Etch repository.  I took this as a sign that
> it was time to upgrade my kernel and upgraded to 2.6.22-3-k7 from
> backports.  Then I reran module-assistant.
>
> This time, m-a found and downloaded the kernel headers.  I then selected
> the module to compile.  The gspca-source was not listed, so I used the
> spca5xx-source.  When I tried to build the sources, however, the build
> failed.  The logfile contained nothing but the date and time, so I have
> no specific errors to report.  It may be that the problem is using
> spca5xx-source instead of gspca-source, but that was not listed as an
> option.  If I download it manually, might m-a find it and allow me to
> use it.
>
> Any ideas on what I should try next?
>
> --
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> [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Marc,

You have a couple of options, one is to upgrade your etch to the current 
2.6.18-5 kernel and then build the spca module.  I built the spca module from 
source with 2.6.18 kernel.

The spca5 source doesn't build with the newer kernels 2.6.22.  You need to use 
the gspca-source.

I am running testing/unstable, and gspca-source is available in 
testing/unstable repositories.  If you grab the 2.6.22 from backports, they 
might also have that source package.  Otherwise you could just grab it from a 
debian repository or use apt-pinning to pin a lower priority for 
lenny/testing and and then grab the gspca source.

I am using the gspca module for my web cam, so do know that the module builds 
with 2.6.22.

John


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Re: hard disk device name change after reboot

[hhding.gnu]

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I try to discover why the device name changed and find something.
I run lspci and find 2 ide interface, as show below:
00:05.0 IDE interface: Silicon Image, Inc. PCI0680 Ultra ATA-133 Host
Controller (rev 02)
/sys/block/hda/device/driver->../../../../../bus/ide/drivers/ide-disk
00:0f.1 IDE interface: Broadcom CSB6 RAID/IDE Controller (rev a0)
/sys/block/hda/device/driver->../../../../../bus/ide/drivers/ide-cdrom
So, I disable the cdrom in bois. The hard disk name is /dev/hda now.

Question is: what is the order kernel detect the hardware? when will
it detect cdrom before hard disk and assign name hda to cdrom?

Andrew Sackville-West 写道:
> On Sun, Nov 04, 2007 at 08:26:03PM -0800, Andrew Sackville-West
> wrote:
>> On Mon, Nov 05, 2007 at 10:26:52AM +0800, hhding.gnu wrote:
>>> It seems it works with some filesystem and do *NOT* work for
>>> swap partition. here as I show below, hde1 is swap partition
>>> and there are no label or uuid exists. as I know, tune2fs can
>>> add uuid or label for ext2/ext3 partitions. How can I add uuid
>>> or label for swap partition then?
>>>
>> sorry no help on swap.
>>
>>> Another question is, can I add uuid as device name in grub's
>>> menu.lst? (something like kernel /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.17-2-686
>>> root=/dev/sde2 ro)
>> root=uuid=/dev/sde2, I think.
>
> ummm... that should be
>
> root=uuid=, I think.
>
>
> A
>
>> A
>
>
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disable mounting of bogus CD device on Toshiba USB stick?

[Paul Wise]

Hi,

[As indicated in the Reply-To, please CC me on any replies]

I got a Toshiba USB stick recently. It exposes two devices; a normal
writable USB mass storage device, and a faked USB optical drive. The
optical drive contains some windows apps for what seems to be a
management application for portable applications. Since I run only
Debian GNU/Linux on my laptop and have no use for the Windows app, I'd
like GNOME automount to ignore the fake optical drive that the USB stick
exposes. Does anyone know how to make GNOME not mount specific devices?

This is what lsusb tells me:

Bus 005 Device 005: ID 0930:6540 Toshiba Corp. TransMemory USB Flash Memory

This is what hwinfo tells me:

  2: udi = '/org/freedesktop/Hal/devices/volume_label_U3_System'
  block.minor = 1 (0x1)
  volume.label = 'U3 System'
  volume.disc.has_data = true
  volume.ignore = false
  org.freedesktop.Hal.Device.Volume.method_names = { 'Mount', 'Unmount', 
'Eject' }
  info.capabilities = { 'volume.disc', 'volume', 'block' }
  volume.is_partition = false
  volume.disc.is_blurayvideo = false
  volume.mount_point = '/media/U3 System'
  info.category = 'volume'
  volume.disc.is_appendable = false
  volume.is_disc = true
  info.product = 'U3 System'
  volume.disc.is_videodvd = false
  volume.is_mounted = true
  block.is_volume = true
  volume.linux.is_device_mapper = false
  volume.disc.is_svcd = false
  block.storage_device = 
'/org/freedesktop/Hal/devices/storage_serial_TOSHIBA_TransMemory_0F31587051213B48_0_1'
  info.parent = 
'/org/freedesktop/Hal/devices/storage_serial_TOSHIBA_TransMemory_0F31587051213B48_0_1'
  volume.disc.has_audio = false
  volume.block_size = 2048 (0x800)
  volume.num_blocks = 33852 (0x843c)
  volume.fsversion = 'Joliet Extension'
  block.device = '/dev/scd1'
  volume.uuid = ''
  volume.disc.is_rewritable = false
  volume.fsusage = 'filesystem'
  volume.is_mounted_read_only = true
  volume.disc.is_blank = false
  org.freedesktop.Hal.Device.Volume.method_argnames = { 'mount_point fstype 
extra_options', 'extra_options', 'extra_options' }
  info.interfaces = { 'org.freedesktop.Hal.Device.Volume' }
  storage.model = ''
  volume.size = 17332224ull (0x1087800ull)
  info.udi = '/org/freedesktop/Hal/devices/volume_label_U3_System'
  volume.mount.valid_options = { 'ro', 'sync', 'dirsync', 'noatime', 
'nodiratime', 'noexec', 'quiet', 'remount', 'exec', 'utf8', 'uid=', 'mode=', 
'iocharset=' }
  org.freedesktop.Hal.Device.Volume.method_signatures = { 'ssas', 'as', 'as' }
  block.major = 11 (0xb)
  volume.disc.is_vcd = false
  volume.fstype = 'iso9660'
  org.freedesktop.Hal.Device.Volume.method_execpaths = { 'hal-storage-mount', 
'hal-storage-unmount', 'hal-storage-eject' }
  volume.unmount.valid_options = { 'lazy' }
  volume.disc.type = 'unknown'
  linux.hotplug_type = 3 (0x3)
  linux.sysfs_path = '/sys/block/sr1/fakevolume'

  3: udi = 
'/org/freedesktop/Hal/devices/storage_serial_TOSHIBA_TransMemory_0F31587051213B48_0_1'
  block.minor = 1 (0x1)
  storage.requires_eject = true
  info.capabilities = { 'storage', 'block', 'storage.cdrom' }
  storage.bus = 'usb'
  storage.cdrom.support_media_changed = true
  storage.cdrom.support_multisession = true
  storage.removable.media_available = true
  storage.cdrom.hddvdr = false
  storage.cdrom.mrw_w = true
  info.category = 'storage'
  info.product = 'TransMemory'
  storage.drive_type = 'cdrom'
  storage.hotpluggable = true
  storage.physical_device = 
'/org/freedesktop/Hal/devices/usb_device_930_6540_0F31587051213B48_2_if0'
  storage.cdrom.mrw = true
  storage.vendor = 'TOSHIBA'
  storage.media_check_enabled = true
  storage.cdrom.read_speed = 7040 (0x1b80)
  org.freedesktop.Hal.Device.Storage.method_names = { 'Eject', 'CloseTray' }
  storage.cdrom.dvd = false
  storage.removable.media_size = 17332224ull (0x1087800ull)
  block.is_volume = false
  storage.firmware_version = '6.50'
  storage.cdrom.bdre = false
  storage.cdrom.mo = false
  block.storage_device = 
'/org/freedesktop/Hal/devices/storage_serial_TOSHIBA_TransMemory_0F31587051213B48_0_1'
  info.addons = { 'hald-addon-storage' }
  storage.serial = 'TOSHIBA_TransMemory_0F31587051213B48-0:1'
  info.parent = 
'/org/freedesktop/Hal/devices/usb_device_930_6540_0F31587051213B48_2_if0_scsi_host_scsi_device_lun1'
  storage.cdrom.dvdplusr = false
  storage.size = 0ull (0x0ull)
  storage.cdrom.write_speed = 0 (0x0)
  org.freedesktop.Hal.Device.Storage.method_signatures = { 'as', 'as' }
  block.device = '/dev/scd1'
  org.freedesktop.Hal.Device.Storage.method_argnames = { 'extra_options', 
'extra_options' }
  storage.cdrom.cdr = true
  storage.no_partitions_hint = true
  storage.cdrom.bdr = false
  storage.removable = true
  storage.lun = 1 (0x1)
  info.vendor = 'TOSHIBA'
  storage.cdrom.dvdram = false
  storage.cdrom.dvdplusrwdl = false
  storage.cdrom.write_speeds = {  }
  storage.cdrom.dvdr = false
  info.interfaces = { 'org.freedesktop.Hal.Device.Storage', 
'org.freedesktop.Hal.Device.Storage' }
  org.freedesktop.Hal.Device.Storage.metho