Re: Problem Playing Movie Trailers & Clips

2005-08-29 Thread Debian User Leonard Chatagnier

Nick wrote:




Debian User Leonard Chatagnier wrote:

 


Using Sarge stable with RealPlayer 10 Gold.  Can play audio/video files
with realplayer on all sites but
can't play movie trailers or clips(wmv format) on any site. 
   



mplayer and xine will play wmv files.  mplayer has a plug-in for browsers
 


Had these installed but just noticed that the mplayerplug-in*.so
files are now missing.  Still have the mplayerplug-in*.xpt files.  
Reinstalled

mozilla-mplayer and got mplayerplug-in.so back in /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins
but not the other shown below:
  mplayerplug-in-gmp.so
  mplayerplug-in-qt.so
  mplayerplug-in-rm.so
  mplayerplug-in-wmp.so
These may have come from a sid version but were still in 
/usr/lib/mozilla/plugins
after purging and installing the stable versions.  I even copied the 
-wmp one to

~/.mozilla/plugins Ran mplayer on a Yahoo trailer with this result:
ChatagnierL-Home:/usr/lib/mozilla/plugins# mplayer 
http://us.rd.yahoo.com/movies/top/noteworthy/thebrothersgrimm/?http://movies.yahoo.com/movies/feature/thebrothersgrimm.html
mplayer: error while loading shared libraries: libaa.so.1: cannot open 
shared object file: No such file or directory
ChatagnierL-Home:/usr/lib/mozilla/plugins# 
Not sure what this is telling me.  Wajiged everything I knew and 
apt-cached searched libaa.so.1; didn't show anything.



too.

 

Have tried 
my.yahoo.com, cnn.com and movie.com

and all I get is the usual player screen with a black background and "no
picture" in parenthesis in the center
of the player screen.  Have run media helper or change settings on the
sites that they're available and get the same
no picture whether selecting windows media player, realplayer or quick
time.  Have visited the Helix and Sourceforge
sites trying out all suggestions and installation tips with no success.
I think I have all the necessary plugins and codecs.
   



Have you installed the win32 codecs from Christian Marillat?  Add this to
your /etc/apt/sources.list:
 


Yes, the w32codecs are installed and I have the mirror listed in
sources.list



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Canon PIXMA iP3000 with Sarge / SID

2005-08-29 Thread Michael Ott
Hello!

I bought a new Canon Printer (PIXMA iP3000). But this printer will not
work as i want. 

On SID i can print testpage with the BJC-7004 but no pages from
Firefox or OpenOffice. With the Canon PIXUS iP3100 from Japan it does
not work. 

On Sarge i can print testpage with the BJC-7004. When I want to print
pages with OpenOffice it started to print only when the half page is
running throw. With the Canon PIXUS iP3100 from Japan it does
not work. 

Does any work with this printer?

Thanks in advance

CU
 
  Michael  
  
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Re: email clients with reply-to-list feature

2005-08-29 Thread Steve Westwood
On Sun, 28 Aug 2005 20:01:38 -0700
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> Quoting kamaraju kusumanchi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> 
> > Hi
> >   I would like to make a list of email clients which have a 
> > reply-to-list feature either built-in or as an add on. This is what I 
> > know so far from reading the archives. I am hoping that others would 
> > comment about whether their favorite email client has this feature or 
> > not.
> >
> > 1) mutt - Yes.
> > 2) mozilla-thunderbird - no
> > 3) outlook express - no

Sylpheed-claws 1.0.4 - yes (Ctrl-L)

Bye,
Steve.
   


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Re: OT: Electoral College [Re: U.S. federal income tax program]

2005-08-29 Thread Katipo

Hendrik Boom wrote:


On Mon, Aug 29, 2005 at 11:14:24AM +0800, Katipo wrote:
 

Any government, that usurps the right of an individual to: make his/er 
own decision on his own personal existence; to make the wrong decision; 
and to suffer by it, is not a democratic institution, and fails in its 
function immediately.
   



Does it matter if others also suffer because if the decision of the individual?

 


Of course it does.
This is what social law is 'supposed' to redress.
What must also be born in mind while doing so, however, is the degree to 
which 'the others' chose to be affected by said individual.
They have the right to bear the natural consequences of their personal 
decisions also.

Positive or negative.


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Re: Re: dhcpcd weirdness

2005-08-29 Thread brandee kinney-hurd
did you once live in apple valley?





Start your day with Yahoo! - make it your home page 
http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs 
 


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Only front speakers working when watching tv

2005-08-29 Thread Andras Lorincz
Hi,

I'm using sarge and I have a pinnacle pctv connected to the auxiliary
port of my Creative Live! 5.1 soundcard from the internal connector of
the tv tuner. My system is 4.1 and all satellites work when watching
movie or listening to music but when I watch tv, only the front
speakers are working no matter if I use tvtime or mplayer, and also I
cannot adjust the volume from tvtime and mplayer, only from alsamixer
or the volume control. Why is this happening?



Re: OT: Electoral College [Re: U.S. federal income tax program]

2005-08-29 Thread Katipo

Steve Lamb wrote:


 If you want to see a liberal dictating larger government at tbe
expense of a person's personal life just look for the word "protect" and
you'll spot it.  It's a bingo if "protect" is followed almost immediately by
"children".

 


Not always.

http://www.commercialalert.org/news-featuredin.php?article_id=776&subcategory_id=&category=&year=2005&month=08&day=11



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fetchmailing with procmail for mutt

2005-08-29 Thread BUYO-BUYO-IGOR

am switching from osx to demudi
on osx was running fetchmail with procmail
to prepare files for mutt
so tried the same setups but when doing

fetchmail -av -m "/usr/bin/procmail -d %T"

it requires a password to do it
which on osx occured
and feeding it anything results into

cannot find DNS address for /usr/bin/procmail

what maybe the case?

and what are you using for simple mta?
chose esmtp
when apt-getting it seemed to have guided me for setups
but

set sendmail="/usr/bin/esmtp"

in .muttrc results into

invalid smtp status code in server response

am doing these not as root

can someone help me?


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Writing problem on FAT via NFS

2005-08-29 Thread Florian Dorpmueller

Only limited writing access on FAT via NFS  ( post #1)

I am trying to connect a windows partition from my linux client via NFS. The 
partition has been sucessfully exported by the server which is a 
double-boot-PC. AT the moment I am able to copy files from the FAT to the 
Linux box and furthermore I can delete files on the FAT and create 
directories there without problems.


The only difficulty I have is that when I try to copy files from the Linux 
client onto the FAT. Then I receive "cp: file 
,,/mnt/nfs/flori/test/myfile.jpg" cannot be created: Operation not 
permitted". Nevertheless an empty file has been established and when I try 
copying again the file is transfered correctly.


Until yet I have played with several exporting options in /etc/exports like 
"all_squash", "no_root_squash", "rw" etc.


In my fstab I have
192.168.0.2:/home/flori/pix /mnt/nfs nfs 
rsize=8192,wsize=8192,user,soft,noauto 0 0 and I mount simply with "mount 
/mnt/nfs"


Is there anybody around who has sucessfully mounted a FAT via NFS with full 
write access?


Thanks for helping me.
Flori



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Re: Wordpress

2005-08-29 Thread Björn Lindström
Andy Streich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Agree. Hence the suggestion entailed a blog and the existing email
> list as two views on exactly the same data.

Gmane has something like this.

http://blog.gmane.org/gmane.linux.debian.user


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LSI SATA Raid - slow

2005-08-29 Thread Hans du Plooy

Hi all,

I'm building a backup server for a client - straight forward as far as 
software goes - samba share for the daily backups to go into.   Minimal 
install plus sarge.


Hardware is a 2ghz Celeron (P4 type), 256MB ram, and four Seagate 160GB 
SATA discs in a RAID-5 on this controller:


000:00:07.0 RAID bus controller: LSI Logic / Symbios Logic MegaRAID (rev 
01)
  Subsystem: LSI Logic / Symbios Logic MegaRAID SATA 150-6 RAID 
Controller

  Flags: bus master, 66Mhz, slow devsel, latency 32, IRQ 11
  Memory at ef00 (32-bit, prefetchable) [size=64K]
  Capabilities: [80] Power Management version 2

The card uses the LSI raid chip for raid, and three Silicon Image 3112a 
chips for SATA itself.  I have a Sil_3112a card and I know it works as 
it should.


I copied the data that was on the original RAID set (3 discs) off to a 
200gb Seagate PATA disc, and mc reported on the large files 27mb/s 
sustained write.


Now, copying stuff back to the RAID set, mc reports a mere 6-7mb/s.

The only thing that struck me as weird is that the controller didn't 
take much time to create the raid - less than a minute.  Last time I 
made a raid (2 10krpm SCSI 74gb discs on an Adaptec card) that took a 
couple of hours.   It seems like this controller does it in the 
background, because I can constantly hear the discs going krr krr krr.  
But it's been doing that since friday, and I would have thought it 
should be done by now.


Any ideas why I'm getting this?  7mb/s write is not going to be enough 
to copy all the data before the next backup starts.


Thanks
Hans


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Re: adding modules to kernel

2005-08-29 Thread Adam Hardy

Bob Proulx on 29/08/05 03:35, wrote:


* You are not using --append-to-version.  You should because otherwise
  your package versions will be simply 2.6.12 or similar and won't
  have any way to differentiate them from each other.

These questions can all be answered in the docs here:

  http://newbiedoc.sourceforge.net/system/kernel-pkg.html



Right. Having read that and also the man page, I got the following 
advice which confused my simple caffeine starved brain. What do I do if 
I only want to compile a module which I forgot in xconfig? Can I avoid 
the complete compile??


Quote man:
 --append_to_version foo
[snip.]
Please  note that you must run a make-kpkg clean after configuring the 
kernel using make (x|menu)?config, since that creates the file 
include/linux/version.h without the append_to_version data (foo). This 
file won't be updated by the make-kpkg run (make-kpkg creates version.h 
if it doesn't exist, but doesn't touch if exists), so the final kernel 
will _not_ have the append_to_version data in its version number it 
shall look for the modules  and  symbols in all the wrong places. The 
simplest solution is either to remove include/linux/version.h after 
configuring and before compiling, or running make-kpkg clean after 
configuring, before compiling.



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Re: Re: Flush ip_conntrack

2005-08-29 Thread ali
hi list,

on my wrt54gs i use the following scrip to flush stale voip connections from
the conntrack table when my isp kicks me and my pppd gets a new ip on
reconnect. although i wrote it for this one purpose it should point out
what to tweak to get rid of stale conntrack-entries w/o unloading the
module (hint: there are more interesting files in 
/proc/sys/net/ipv4/netfilter/).


-snip-

#!/bin/ash


ppp_ip=foo
ppp_ip_old=bar

rm /tmp/conntrack_fix.log

udpstimeout=180
udptimeout=30

while true ; do ppp_ip=$(ifconfig ppp0 |grep inet |awk '{print $2}' |sed 
's/addr:\(\)/\1/')
if [ x"$ppp_ip" = x"$ppp_ip_old" ] ; then
sleep 10
elif [ x"$ppp_ip_old" = x"bar" ] ; then
ppp_ip_old=$ppp_ip
else
echo "ppp ip changed: $ppp_ip_old -> $ppp_ip" >> 
/tmp/conntrack_fix.log
while (cat /proc/net/ip_conntrack |grep 5060 |grep -v 
"dst=$ppp_ip" \
|| cat /proc/net/ip_conntrack |grep 5036 |grep -v "dst=$ppp_ip" 
\
|| cat /proc/net/ip_conntrack |grep 4569 |grep -v 
"dst=$ppp_ip") ; do
echo "trying to flush conntrack cache" >> 
/tmp/conntrack_fix.log
echo 0 > 
/proc/sys/net/ipv4/netfilter/ip_conntrack_udp_timeout_stream
echo 0 > 
/proc/sys/net/ipv4/netfilter/ip_conntrack_udp_timeout
sleep 10
echo $udpstimeout > 
/proc/sys/net/ipv4/netfilter/ip_conntrack_udp_timeout_stream
echo $udptimeout > 
/proc/sys/net/ipv4/netfilter/ip_conntrack_udp_timeout
done
ppp_ip_old=$ppp_ip
fi
done &

-snap-

hth,

ali



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pci errors

2005-08-29 Thread L.V.Gandhi
I have sarge installed in dell inspiron 600m. I get the following error.
cpci_hotplug: CompactPCI Hot Plug Core version: 0.2
pci_hotplug: PCI Hot Plug PCI Core version: 0.5
pciehp: acpi_pciehprm:\_SB_.PCI0 evaluate _BBN fail=0x5
pciehp: acpi_pciehprm:get_device PCI ROOT HID fail=0x5
shpchp: acpi_shpchprm:\_SB_.PCI0 evaluate _BBN fail=0x5
shpchp: acpi_shpchprm:get_device PCI ROOT HID fail=0x5
hw_random: cannot enable RNG, aborting
pciehp: acpi_pciehprm:\_SB_.PCI0 evaluate _BBN fail=0x5
pciehp: acpi_pciehprm:get_device PCI ROOT HID fail=0x5
device eth0 left promiscuous mode
shpchp: acpi_shpchprm:\_SB_.PCI0 evaluate _BBN fail=0x5
shpchp: acpi_shpchprm:get_device PCI ROOT HID fail=0x5
What is the significance of shpchp, pciehp and hw_random? Am I to
configure in my laptop for getting them right?
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Re:

2005-08-29 Thread Tom Allison

Dalibor Straka wrote:



wdm: /etc/X11/wdm/wdm-config
DisplayManager*wdmReboot:   /sbin/reboot
DisplayManager*wdmHalt: /sbin/halt
DisplayManager*wdmVerify:   false
DisplayManager*wdmRoot: false

So nice ;-)
-- Dalibor




I know I'm going OT now, but I love WDM and am glad to see someone give 
it mention here.  But I have one question: Is there any option to 
display the time on the wdm login window?



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Re: OT: Electoral College [Re: U.S. federal income tax program]

2005-08-29 Thread David Jardine
On Sun, Aug 28, 2005 at 09:48:14PM -0400, Roberto C. Sanchez wrote:

> [...]
> The electoral college has a very specific purpose, to prevent the 
> mob rule from swaying election results.
> [...]
> Personally, however, I like how Nebraska (and I forget the other 
> state) does it.  They split the state's electoral votes by the 
> percentage of popular vote.  It would be better if all states did 
> that, if only because it provides a more accurate reflection of what 
> the people want without allowing sudden changes in the public mood 
> to unduly affect election results.

Wouldn't that give you the same result as a direct popular election, 
"mob rule" as you call it?

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loving every minute of it."  -L. von Sacher-M.(1835-1895)


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ifplugd problem

2005-08-29 Thread L.V.Gandhi
I am running sarge in dell inspiron 600m.
I get this msg when starting network interfaces during boot.
There is already an instance if ifplugd on eth0 is running.
How to know when that is started. How to avoid duplicate.
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Re: mozilla security: hangs after clicking on binary file

2005-08-29 Thread Wim De Smet
On 8/23/05, H. S. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Apparently, _H. S._, on 22/08/05 18:39,typed:
> > Hi,
> >
> > Due to the various sshd dictionary (apparent) attacks I have been
> > observing in my syslog, I tried a little seach on what script or worm or
> > bot is doing this and discovered this site:
> > http://dev.gentoo.org/~krispykringle/sshnotes.txt
> >
> > When I click on sshf on this url:
> > http://dev.gentoo.org/~krispykringle/ssh_kits/ssh/ , mozilla seems to
> > hang. I waited for a few seconds and then killed mozilla and used wget
> > to download the ssf file.
> >
> > The file seems to be:
> > $> file sshf
> > sshf: ELF 32-bit LSB executable, Intel 80386, version 1 (SYSV), for
> > GNU/Linux 2.0.0, statically linked, not stripped
> >
> >
> > Just being paranoid, but why would mozilla hang on when I click on sshf
> > link on the above URL? Or is it just waiting to do something? The CPU
> > load monitor shows high load. Hopefully I haven't shot myself in the boot :)
> >
> > ->HS
> >
> 
> Apologies for the incomplete info and for hasty email:
> 1. Given a few more seconds, the binary is actually loaded in the
> Mozilla window. It is not actually running --- so I was just being paranoid.
> 
> 2. Running Mozilla 1.7.8-1sarge1 on Testing, 2.6.11 kernel.
> 
> ->HS

Try wgetting the file again and see what kind of Content-Type the
server sends. It probably doesn't know the filetype so sends something
standard like text/html which causes the browser to think it can open
the file.

greets,
Wim



Re: www.debian.org down?

2005-08-29 Thread Wim De Smet
On 8/25/05, Jon Dowland <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Thu, Aug 25, 2005 at 09:06:54AM +0200, Nico De Ranter wrote:
> > Is anybody else having problems reaching the debian website? I can't
> > reach www.debian.org or security.debian.org.  DNS still works (ah,
> > wait, they appear to be the same machine 194.109.137.218.  hardware
> > problem?  scheduled downtime?).
> 
> I was going to ask you to "post a new message for a new topic, don't
> reply to an existing, unrelated thread", as your message was threaded
> with the discussion about the Reply-To header in my client.
> 
> However, in inspection of your message's headers, I cannot see _why_ tis
> is the case: I can't see References: or In-Reply-To: headers. So I don't
> know why my mailer made this decision. Does anyone else have an idea?
> 

These I can see:
In-Reply-To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
References: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Your mailer (mutt?) might be ignoring them. If it is mutt, try using
"h" to open the message.

greets,
Wim



Dúvidas

2005-08-29 Thread DIEM Orismar
Caros Colegas,

Estou com o seguinte problema :
 Infelizmente ainda estou usando o Windows na empresa.
 Temos aqui o Sevidor Windows 2000 Sever, gostaria de poder ter acesso aos
arquivos desse servidor com uma estação linux.


Desde já agradeço a colaboração.


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Re: Drawin program like CorelDRAW

2005-08-29 Thread Paolo Pantaleo
2005/8/27, Paolo Pantaleo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> I am looking for a drawing (vectorial) program, i read about:
> Sodipodi
> Skencil
> Karbon14
> 
> Any other?
> Any suggestion about which is better?
> 
> PAolo
> 
> --
> 
> 
> 
> 
> if you have a minute to spend pleas visit my photogrphy site:
> http://mypic.altervista.org
> 
Well I just installed Sodipodi, and even if it seems very nice, things
do not work perfectly

I will try Inkscape then, thnx for the help

PAolo

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Re: problems updating udev

2005-08-29 Thread Kai Grossjohann
Edward Kamau <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> 1. apt-get has been unable to reach Debian mirrors for 'non-us' i.e apt
> fails with a 404 error. I basically got around this by commenting out
> the 'non-us' lines in my sources.list. Does anybody (in the US) have a
> sources.list that works for them with Sid? And would you be willing to
> share?

non-us does not exist anymore.  Its packages (except for 13 or so)
have been incorporated into the main branch of the distribution, so it
is not needed anymore.

Kai


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Re: Writing problem on FAT via NFS

2005-08-29 Thread Roberto C. Sanchez
On Mon, Aug 29, 2005 at 08:18:23AM +, Florian Dorpmueller wrote:
> Only limited writing access on FAT via NFS( post #1)
> 
> I am trying to connect a windows partition from my linux client via NFS. The 

Some things were nevern meant to be.  I believe that FAT over NFS is one
of them.

-Roberto

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Re: Can't install Sarge on an HP NetServer

2005-08-29 Thread marco_elen
Hello everybody,
I finally could install Sarge on an HP NetServer LH4. (I could post a report 
when I'll have all the probelms solved).

First I installed Woody, then I upgraded to Sarge.
I also updated the kernel from 2.2.20 to kernel-image-2.4.27-2-686-smp.
After some problems I could get a working Sarge.

But I also found that the cdrom isn't working anymore:
mount -t iso9660 /dev/hda /cdrom
gives: /dev/hda not a valid block device.
I can get it to work using old kernel on the rescue diskette, but don't know 
how to solve this.

Does anybody have any hint?

Best regards,
Marco Ballini




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Re: Writing problem on FAT via NFS

2005-08-29 Thread Florian Dorpmueller

Some things were nevern meant to be.  I believe that FAT over NFS is one
of them.


Maybe, but no reason for not trying it...

Flori



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Problem with Sarge, Etch, and Sid install on HP dv1240us

2005-08-29 Thread Philip Schwartz
Ok, I used a Ubuntu live cd and mounted the partition. I then removed the
symbolic link for S36discover in /etc/rcS.d. Upon rebooting, I was still
unable to start the system. It frooze right after the detection of
i810_audio and USB.

Any suggestions??

-Original Message-
From: Philip Schwartz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, August 28, 2005 6:03 PM
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Problem with Sarge, Etch, and Sid install on HP dv1240us

Ok, I am having a weird problem with the install of sarge or sid on my HP
DV1240us.

Hardware specs.

Centrino 735 1.73ghz
1024mb DDR
100gig HD
IPW2200b/g Wireless
Intel 82801 Audio, Modem, Network controller Brightview HD lcd 1280x768
16x DVD burner


The install goes fine, but the problem is on the bootup after the install.
This is the output from the boot.

Unable to handle kernel NULL pointer dereference at virutal address
0024 printing eip:
de9561d2
*pde = 
Oops: 
CPU: 0
EIP: 0010:[] Not tainted
EFLAGS: 00010246
eax: fff ebx:  ecx: dce26c00 edx: dce26c00
esi: dded5400 edi:  ebp: c15d6660 esp: dd8c9e34
ds: 0018 es: 0018 ss: 0018
Process modprobe (pid: 389, stackpage=dd8c9000)
Stack: 0282 0246 c02c5412 0246 dce26c00 dded5400 c15d66f8
c15d6660
de959fd7 c15d6660   00041820 15d6 c15d6660 0a04

Blablababalaallala

Code: 8b 43 24 8b 48 08 85 c9 75 27 0f b7 82 16 02 00 00 83 e0 fb
/etc/rcS.d/S36discover: line 204: 389 Segmentation fault modprobe $MODULE
usb-uhci disabled in configuration Loading ehci-hcd module.
<6>usb.c: registered new driver usbdevfs
usb.c: registered new driver hub



I have tried to boot with nousb, noacpi, apm=off. But nothing works.

** THIS SYSTEM DOES NOT BOOT **

Can anyone please help me??


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Re: support for nvidia nforce2?

2005-08-29 Thread Dominique Dumont
Bruno Buys <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

>I'm considering buying an abit with nforce2 chipset. How does Debian 
> play with it? Any experiences? Another option would be the kt600 
> via-based boards. Is nforce2 worth the trouble, if any?

Nforce2 boards runs well (I've an a7n8x deluxe).   

The only hitch is that the SPDIF output cannot output properly dolby
digital. But this won't bother you if you're not setting up a
home-theater PC.

HTH

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Re: Problem with Sarge, Etch, and Sid install on HP dv1240us

2005-08-29 Thread Jonathan Opperman

On 29 Aug 2005, at 1:22 PM, Philip Schwartz wrote:

Ok, I used a Ubuntu live cd and mounted the partition. I then removed 
the
symbolic link for S36discover in /etc/rcS.d. Upon rebooting, I was 
still

unable to start the system. It frooze right after the detection of
i810_audio and USB.

Any suggestions??

[...]

Hi Philip,

What kernel are you trying to install? 2.4.x 2.6.x ?

Try disable usb ports from bios but, you can do it by adding a line to
/etc/modprobe.d/aliases, like;

alias ehci_hdc off

alias uhci_hdc off

Unplug all usb devices from computer, there won't be a problem during 
installation

because at the error message you sent:

Loading ehci_hcd module.
<6>usbcore: registered new driver usbfs
usbcore: registered new driver hub

Which means discover finds something and tries to mount it as usbfs.

Hope this helps.

Ciao
Jonathan

PS (I got this info in a previous post, maybe you can mail 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] and ask

him what steps he took exactly to work around this problem).


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Re: Problem Playing Movie Trailers & Clips

2005-08-29 Thread Nick Coleman
On Mon, 29 Aug 2005 16:48, Debian User Leonard Chatagnier wrote:

> Had these installed but just noticed that the mplayerplug-in*.so
> files are now missing.  Still have the mplayerplug-in*.xpt files.
> Reinstalled
> mozilla-mplayer and got mplayerplug-in.so back in
> /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins but not the other shown below:
>mplayerplug-in-gmp.so
>mplayerplug-in-qt.so
>mplayerplug-in-rm.so
>mplayerplug-in-wmp.so
> These may have come from a sid version but were still in
> /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins
> after purging and installing the stable versions.  I even copied the
> -wmp one to
> ~/.mozilla/plugins Ran mplayer on a Yahoo trailer with this result:
> ChatagnierL-Home:/usr/lib/mozilla/plugins# mplayer
> http://us.rd.yahoo.com/movies/top/noteworthy/thebrothersgrimm/?http:/
>/movies.yahoo.com/movies/feature/thebrothersgrimm.html mplayer: error
> while loading shared libraries: libaa.so.1: cannot open shared object
> file: No such file or directory
> ChatagnierL-Home:/usr/lib/mozilla/plugins#
> Not sure what this is telling me.  Wajiged everything I knew and
> apt-cached searched libaa.so.1; didn't show anything.
>

Hmm, something very borked.  Look at this:

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/etc$ locate libaa
/usr/lib/libaa.a
/usr/lib/libaa.la
/usr/lib/libaa.so
/usr/lib/libaa.so.1
/usr/lib/libaa.so.1.0.4
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/etc$ ll /usr/lib/libaa*
-rw-r--r--  1 root root 157334 2004-08-06 08:02 /usr/lib/libaa.a
-rw-r--r--  1 root root830 2004-08-06 08:02 /usr/lib/libaa.la
lrwxrwxrwx  1 root root 14 2005-05-06 17:29 /usr/lib/libaa.so -> 
libaa.so.1.0.4
lrwxrwxrwx  1 root root 14 2005-02-28 12:08 /usr/lib/libaa.so.1 -> 
libaa.so.1.0.4
-rw-r--r--  1 root root 104112 2004-08-06 08:02 /usr/lib/libaa.so.1.0.4

I haven't any other suggestions than removing mplayer completely and 
re-installing, or else try searching for libaa.so.*, iinstalling that 
and creating the links.

Mine is a standard Sarge install.
Nick


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Re: rsync knoppix dvd download

2005-08-29 Thread L.V.Gandhi
On 8/26/05, Johann Spies <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Fri, Aug 26, 2005 at 06:38:56PM +0530, L.V.Gandhi wrote:
> > How to download knoppix dvd using rsync. I am accessing internet
> > through a proxy. I tried rsync src des. I get error as
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]$ rsync
> > ftp://ftp.free.fr/mirrors/download.linuxtag.org/knoppix/dvd/KNOPPIX_V4.0DVD-2005-08-16-EN.iso
> > /mnt/wind/lvg/Linux/
> 
> If you want to download from ftp.free.fr first make sure there is an
> rsync server willing to serve you:
> 
> $rsync ftp.free.fr::(Note no ftp:// here)
> rsync: failed to connect to ftp.free.fr: Connection refused (111)
> rsync error: error in socket IO (code 10) at clientserver.c(99)
> $
> 
> It does not seem to be the case.
> 
> Anyhow if there was one, it would have replied with the names of the
> rsync packages available.
> 
> Let us try download.linuxtag.org:
> 
> $ rsync download.linuxtag.org::
> knoppix KNOPPIX rsync repository
> OpenBSD OpenBSD rsync repository
> $
> 
> Now there is progress.
> 
> Next step:
> 
> $ rsync download.linuxtag.org::knoppix/dvd/
> drwxr-xr-x4096 2005/08/23 16:07:50 .
> -rw-r--r--   35634 2005/08/18 03:34:26 KNOPPIX-CHANGELOG.txt
> -rwxr--r--1320 2005/08/18 03:36:03 
> KNOPPIX_V4.0.1DVD-knoppix-terminalserver.patch
> -rw-r--r--  68 2005/08/16 09:03:56 
> KNOPPIX_V4.0DVD-2005-08-16-DE.iso.md5
> -rw-r--r-- 304 2005/08/16 09:22:30 
> KNOPPIX_V4.0DVD-2005-08-16-DE.iso.md5.asc
> -rw-r--r--  76 2005/08/16 09:09:14 
> KNOPPIX_V4.0DVD-2005-08-16-DE.iso.sha1
> -rw-r--r-- 312 2005/08/16 09:22:33 
> KNOPPIX_V4.0DVD-2005-08-16-DE.iso.sha1.asc
> -rw-r--r--  68 2005/08/16 09:13:36 
> KNOPPIX_V4.0DVD-2005-08-16-EN.iso.md5
> -rw-r--r-- 304 2005/08/16 09:22:35 
> KNOPPIX_V4.0DVD-2005-08-16-EN.iso.md5.asc
> -rw-r--r--  76 2005/08/16 09:18:17 
> KNOPPIX_V4.0DVD-2005-08-16-EN.iso.sha1
> -rw-r--r-- 312 2005/08/16 09:22:37 
> KNOPPIX_V4.0DVD-2005-08-16-EN.iso.sha1.asc
> -rw-r--r-- 138 2005/08/17 18:39:41 __the_big_iso_only_via_rsync__
> -rw-r--r--9656 2005/08/16 11:04:02 knoppix-cheatcodes.txt
> -rw-r--r--  260219 2005/08/16 09:25:06 packages-dvd.txt
> $
> 
> 
> Now I can download the dvd using
> 
> $ rsync -av --progress --partial 
> download.linuxtag.org::knoppix/dvd/KNOPPIX_V4.0DVD-2005-08-16-EN* .
> 
> to download all the files starting with KNOPPIX_V4.0DVD-2005-08-16-EN
> to the directory from where I am working.
I have tried as follows.
[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]# export RSYNC_PROXY=150.1.35.36:3128
[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]# rsync download.linuxtag.org::
bad response from proxy - HTTP/1.0 403 Forbidden
rsync: failed to connect to 150.1.35.36: Success (0)
rsync error: error in socket IO (code 10) at clientserver.c(94)
[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]#
What to do?


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Re: Adding a progress bar into start-up

2005-08-29 Thread Hugo Vanwoerkom

Ian wrote:
No it isn't. That's where the programmers at Debian spend their time. 
Would someone mind giving answers instead of smart-alec remarks?




http://groups.google.com/group/fa.linux.kernel/browse_frm/thread/16ca6fa44a47247e/b75caa5bb5773ce5?lnk=st&q=author:torvalds&rnum=1&hl=ia#b75caa5bb5773ce5




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Re: Not able to print page footer or header.

2005-08-29 Thread Hugo Vanwoerkom

George App wrote:

I am currently running debian testing (etch)

I am unable to get the page footer to print when for example printing a webpage 
using firefox.  When I do a page preview both the header and footer show up.  
Any ideas?


I run mozilla, but what are your printer properties set at?
Changing them makes a difference?

I went around and around on that, finding out finally that the default 
paper size was A4 while I had Letter size paper.


H


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Re: email clients with reply-to-list feature

2005-08-29 Thread Alexander Schmehl
* Marc Wilson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [050829 06:52]:
> Depends on whether you consider elm or elm-ME to be real elm, I suppose.
> In less than a minute of Google-ing, I found freshmeat.net's page for
> elm-ME with a release date of 14 July 2005, and the actual elm homepage
> with a release in 2004.
> 
> Debian *was* packaging elm-ME... I'm not quite sure when it was dropped,
> but it was still in the archive in 2002.

Taking a look at http://ftp-master.debian.org/removals.txt, I found the
following:

=
[Date: Mon, 29 Mar 2004 11:24:27 -0500] [ftpmaster: James Troup]
Removed the following packages from unstable:

   elm-me+ | 2.4pl25ME+100-2 | source, alpha, arm, hppa, hurd-i386, i386, ia64, 
m68k, mips, mipsel, powerpc, s390, sparc
Closed bugs: 141971

--- Reason ---
RoQA; orphaned for almost 2 years, quite inactive upsteam, other MUAs (e.g. 
mutt) provide more functionality
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=

Is that what you are talking about?  I never used elm myself, and I am
confused by elm / elm-me / elm-me+.

If you think it's worth the efford and the elm-me{+} development is
active again, than go ahead, fill an RFP or do the
work yourself.


Yours sincerely,
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Best strategy for multiple terminals connected to one server

2005-08-29 Thread Antonio Rodriguez
I plan to implement a system similar to a cybercafe, the basic being
the following:

<> A central server.
<> Several end points with terminals, keyboards (no sound), with
   access to programs running from the server, which output to the
   terminals.
<> The end points are connected to the central server by ...
   (Suggestions are sought).

Suggestions, pointers to howtos, implementations, etc, will be
strongly appreciated.


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lame server

2005-08-29 Thread Graham Smith
Hi,

I'm seeing loads of these types of message from Bind

Aug 29 13:40:35 sever named[7713]: lame server resolving 
'181.162.65.222.in-addr.arpa' (in '181.162.65.222.in-addr.arpa'?): 
202.96.209.5#53
Aug 29 13:40:53 server named[7713]: lame server resolving 
'101.63.195.81.in-addr.arpa' (in '63.195.81.in-addr.arpa'?): 195.34.32.83#53
Aug 29 13:44:33 server named[7713]: unexpected RCODE (REFUSED) resolving 
'dns-noc.zjhzptt.net.cn//IN': 202.96.104.18#53


by loads I mean 10 to 20 a minute for about an hour. They come in groups with 
an IP address being repeated 4 or 5 times then another one is tried. I am at 
a loss to figure out what is doing so many reverse look ups. Can someone help 
me find out what it is?

Perhaps it's nothing but I'm interested to know. I'm running testing and the 
Bind server is only a local caching DNS with all external ports firewalled 
off. There are only two machines on the network so there shouldn't be that 
much traffic.

Thanks.

Graham


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Re: Can't install Sarge on an HP NetServer

2005-08-29 Thread Clive Menzies
On (29/08/05 13:12), marco_elen wrote:
> Hello everybody,
> I finally could install Sarge on an HP NetServer LH4. (I could post a report 
> when I'll have all the probelms solved).
> 
> First I installed Woody, then I upgraded to Sarge.
> I also updated the kernel from 2.2.20 to kernel-image-2.4.27-2-686-smp.
> After some problems I could get a working Sarge.
> 
> But I also found that the cdrom isn't working anymore:
> mount -t iso9660 /dev/hda /cdrom
> gives: /dev/hda not a valid block device.
> I can get it to work using old kernel on the rescue diskette, but don't know 
> how to solve this.

Your CD rom is normally /dev/hdc ?

Regards

Clive

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Re: What is the point of sudo?

2005-08-29 Thread Alexander Schmehl
* Kent West <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [050828 22:30]:

> It's also easier to do root-type things while in X without having to log
> into X as root or muck about with the Xauthority files.

Well, you could use sux from the sux package for that, but yes, I prefer
using sudo, too ;)


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Re: FW: call for a vote -- should debian-user mailing list replies go to author or to list?

2005-08-29 Thread kamaraju kusumanchi

Andy Streich wrote:


On Saturday 27 August 2005 01:25 pm, David Christensen wrote:
 



(Having just pushed the "reply to list" button in KMail...) 

Great job summarizing the discussion and vote, David.  I like your solutions 
and, in the same spirit of offering ideas that I can't implement on my own, 
here's mine:


As a supplement to (not replacement for) this email list, I'd really love to 
see a weblog where anyone who registers (just like we subscribe to this list) 
can post questions and comments.  Ideally when signing up for a list you 
could choose to be a weblog user or a mailing-list user or both.  Posts and 
comments on the blog would be sent to the list and vice versa.  

 


One problem I have with web forums is that
1. I cannot start reading it where I left off one week back
2. I need to run a GUI to read the forum
3. To additional advantage as compared to mailing lists => no incentive 
to switch.


But with the mailing lists, I can just continue reading the unread 
messages even after one week or so. There probably is such a facility by 
giving out RSS feed etc., but then I would be using a email client to 
read the unread messages. In such a case, I would be better of reading 
debian-user as a mailing list.


Moreover mailing lists does not require a GUI.

Wouldn't it be nice to actually use modern computer technology to aid people 
who are eager to use and promote Debian software?  (Apologies in advance for 
what might appear as a snide remark.  It's not intended that way.)
 

No IMHO. Latest does not mean that people should go and embrace it. Even 
if majority of people want to embrace the latest technology we need not 
adopt it. We should switch technologies only if there is an added 
advantage for US. For example you wont dist-upgrade your sid box on a 
daily basis to latest software do you?


IIRC there have been some forums setup to help debian users. But they 
were never a success.


raju

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Re: Can't install Sarge on an HP NetServer

2005-08-29 Thread marco_elen
On Mon, 29 Aug 2005 13:48:45 +0100,  Clive Menzies wrote:

> Your CD rom is normally /dev/hdc ?

When I use the old kernel, the command
mount -t iso9660 /dev/hda /cdrom
works, but not with the new kernel.
May it be a problem in the kernel, in the sense that the new kernel I installed 
does not have the support for my CD driver?
How can I discover this?

Best regards,
Marco Ballini
 




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Re: Can't install Sarge on an HP NetServer

2005-08-29 Thread Jim Lynch
Look at the output of dmesg.  You should find what device the CD
rom the kernel assigned.  On my system, these two lines are
informative.

hdc: CW099D ATAPI CD-R/RW, ATAPI CD/DVD-ROM drive
hdd: TOSHIBA DVD-ROM SD-R5002, ATAPI CD/DVD-ROM drive

Do a 
dmesg|grep CD  
and see if you don't find something similar.

Jim.On 8/29/05, marco_elen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
On Mon, 29 Aug 2005 13:48:45 +0100,  Clive Menzies wrote:> Your CD rom is normally /dev/hdc ?When I use the old kernel, the commandmount -t iso9660 /dev/hda /cdromworks, but not with the new kernel.
May it be a problem in the kernel, in the sense that the new kernel I installed does not have the support for my CD driver?How can I discover this?Best regards,Marco Ballini
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Re: Problem with Sarge, Etch, and Sid install on HP dv1240us

2005-08-29 Thread Philip Schwartz
Hey Jonathan,

I am installing 2.6, I have also tried 2.4 with the same result.

I will try the alias you suggested and see what happens.

--Philip

> On 29 Aug 2005, at 1:22 PM, Philip Schwartz wrote:
>
>> Ok, I used a Ubuntu live cd and mounted the partition. I then removed
>> the
>> symbolic link for S36discover in /etc/rcS.d. Upon rebooting, I was
>> still
>> unable to start the system. It frooze right after the detection of
>> i810_audio and USB.
>>
>> Any suggestions??
> [...]
>
> Hi Philip,
>
> What kernel are you trying to install? 2.4.x 2.6.x ?
>
> Try disable usb ports from bios but, you can do it by adding a line to
> /etc/modprobe.d/aliases, like;
>
> alias ehci_hdc off
>
> alias uhci_hdc off
>
> Unplug all usb devices from computer, there won't be a problem during
> installation
> because at the error message you sent:
>
> Loading ehci_hcd module.
> <6>usbcore: registered new driver usbfs
> usbcore: registered new driver hub
>
> Which means discover finds something and tries to mount it as usbfs.
>
> Hope this helps.
>
> Ciao
> Jonathan
>
> PS (I got this info in a previous post, maybe you can mail
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] and ask
> him what steps he took exactly to work around this problem).
>
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Re: Can't install Sarge on an HP NetServer

2005-08-29 Thread Jonathan Opperman

On 29 Aug 2005, at 2:58 PM, marco_elen wrote:


On Mon, 29 Aug 2005 13:48:45 +0100,  Clive Menzies wrote:


Your CD rom is normally /dev/hdc ?


When I use the old kernel, the command
mount -t iso9660 /dev/hda /cdrom
works, but not with the new kernel.
May it be a problem in the kernel, in the sense that the new kernel I 
installed does not have the support for my CD driver?

How can I discover this?

Best regards,
Marco Ballini

[...]

What is the output of :

"grep CD /var/log/dmesg"

and:

"cat /etc/fstab"

Ciao
Jonathan

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Re: OT: Electoral College [Re: U.S. federal income tax program]

2005-08-29 Thread Katipo

David Jardine wrote:

Wouldn't that give you the same result as a direct popular election, 
"mob rule" as you call it?


 

What I like about "mob rule", is that after the initial stages where a 
dumbed down, general population had made a few painful mistakes, and it 
had sunk in that they were big people now, that they might start 
demanding things like a higher educational standard, so as to make for a 
better informed, decision-making process.
This would also contribute to such aspects as transparency in 
government, and before you know it, you'd be back living in a democratic 
society again.


Jefferson would sleep peacefully in his grave.



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Re: support for nvidia nforce2?

2005-08-29 Thread Bruno Buys

   Hi, Dominique,
   Thanks! I read some articles over google, and it seems that people 
have used quite experimental drivers with it. The problem is I couldn´t 
figure out how old the articles are. Maybe with current kernels, the 
board is ok.

   Did you have to tweak debian in order to get the board to work?
Do you have any idea whether the spdif thing is a driver problem?


Dominique Dumont wrote:


Bruno Buys <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

 

  I'm considering buying an abit with nforce2 chipset. How does Debian 
play with it? Any experiences? Another option would be the kt600 
via-based boards. Is nforce2 worth the trouble, if any?
   



Nforce2 boards runs well (I've an a7n8x deluxe).   


The only hitch is that the SPDIF output cannot output properly dolby
digital. But this won't bother you if you're not setting up a
home-theater PC.

HTH

 




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Re: FW: call for a vote -- should debian-user mailing list replies go to author or to list?

2005-08-29 Thread Hendrik Boom
On Mon, Aug 29, 2005 at 08:51:23AM -0400, kamaraju kusumanchi wrote:
> 
> IIRC there have been some forums setup to help debian users. But they 
> were never a success.

email has a kind of immediacy that the web doesn't.  Not sure why.

-- hendrik


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Re: Can't install Sarge on an HP NetServer

2005-08-29 Thread marco_elen
On Mon, 29 Aug 2005 15:09:51 +0200, Jonathan Opperman wrote:
>
> > On Mon, 29 Aug 2005 13:48:45 +0100,  Clive Menzies wrote:
> >
> >> Your CD rom is normally /dev/hdc ?
> >
> > When I use the old kernel, the command
> > mount -t iso9660 /dev/hda /cdrom
> > works, but not with the new kernel.
> > May it be a problem in the kernel, in the sense that the new kernel I
> > installed does not have the support for my CD driver?
> > How can I discover this?
> >
> > Best regards,
> > Marco Ballini
> [...]
>
> What is the output of :
>
> "grep CD /var/log/dmesg"
>
> and:
>
> "cat /etc/fstab"


The (relevant) output of
# cat /etc/fstab
is:
/dev/cdrom /cdrom iso9660 ro,user,noauto 0 0

and the file /dev/cdrom is a symbolic link to /dev/hda

The output of
# grep CD /var/log/dmesg
when booting with old kernel (2.2.20) on a rescue diskette (created when 
installing Woody vanilla) is:
hda: CD-540E, ATAPI CDROM drive
hda: ATAPI 20x CDROM drive, 128k cache
Uniform CD-ROM driver Revision: 3.11

while I get no output when booting with the new kernel (2.4.27) installed with:
# aptitude install kernel-image-2.4.27-2-686-smp

Best regards,
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Re: Dúvidas

2005-08-29 Thread Bruno Buys

Orismar,
This list has to be posted in english, according to this link: 
http://www.debian.org/MailingLists. To write in portuguese you have to 
use debian-user-portuguese.
Essa lista tem que ser usada em ingles, de acordo com esse link 
http://www.debian.org/MailingLists. Para escrever em portugues, use 
debian-user-portuguese.


To access win server under Linux, you have to install the samba client 
packages.
Para acessar o servidor win pelo Linux voce tem que instalar o cliente 
samba.


Ate,


Bruno






DIEM Orismar wrote:


Caros Colegas,

Estou com o seguinte problema :
Infelizmente ainda estou usando o Windows na empresa.
Temos aqui o Sevidor Windows 2000 Sever, gostaria de poder ter acesso aos
arquivos desse servidor com uma estação linux.


Desde já agradeço a colaboração.


 




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Re: OT: Electoral College [Re: U.S. federal income tax program]

2005-08-29 Thread Steve Lamb
Katipo wrote:
> What I like about "mob rule", is that after the initial stages where a
> dumbed down, general population had made a few painful mistakes, and it
> had sunk in that they were big people now

Hate to tell it you but that isn't the case.  What often happens is that
in mob rule people think, "Weee, we can order other people around to do more
for us so we can slack."  Notice the plethora of vote buying schemes over on
this side of the pond where just that happens.  We can see it in action.
Politicians promise more money for the largest voting block which they
confiscate from the smallest voting block.  Not only that they villify the
smaller voting blocks.  Certainly hasn't increased the general education level
of the larger block.  In fact it is quite the contrary.  The mob is perfectly
content to continue to take, to give less, until that power to take is
removed.  That is why mob rule should be avoided completely.

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Re: support for nvidia nforce2?

2005-08-29 Thread Hendrik Boom
On Mon, Aug 29, 2005 at 01:55:32PM +0200, Dominique Dumont wrote:
> Bruno Buys <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> 
> >I'm considering buying an abit with nforce2 chipset. How does Debian 
> > play with it? Any experiences? Another option would be the kt600 
> > via-based boards. Is nforce2 worth the trouble, if any?
> 
> Nforce2 boards runs well (I've an a7n8x deluxe).   

I have an A7N8X-X running Debian sarge.  Quite reliably,
except for almost everything relating to the USB ports.
I've been wondering if this is a hardware or software problem.
Does anyone else have experience with this board?  What kernel
do you use?  Did discover discover everything or did you have to
override?  Of so, how?

I've *never* managed to get the USB ports to work reliably.
USB thumb drives don't work at all.  MP3 players don't work at all
(I'm talking about those that pretend to be standard USP hard disks).
All these work fine on another machine, in either sarge or Windows.
The other machine does NOT have an NVidia chipset (but does have
an NVidia graphics card).

A 200GB IDE drive in a USB enclosure?  Got one of these.  It works
for a few minutes, then conks out.  I get to partition it and create
a Reiser file system on it, but when I start transferring bulk data
to it, it stope working.  Same drive works fine with NTFS on Windows.
But it might be the USB enclosure at fault, not the PC, because it
fails when plugged in to the other sarge machine I mentioned above.
MAybe it's not within spec, but Windows doesn't happen to pay attention
to that piece of spec either.  The IDE drive within it is fine.
After I removed it from the USB enclosure, and connected it
directly as an IDE drive, I could do all the things I couldn't through
the UBS enclosure.

By the way, I also have an Alphasmart, which interfaces to the computer
as a USB keyboard.  It works *perfectly*.  It recognised the my Debian
PC as an Apple Macintosh.  I guess recent Macs *are* more like Linux
systems than Windows.

The store wants me to try this out on my own machine in Windows.  They say
that way they'll know if it's really a hardware problem.  But Windows ME
won't install (I have a partition free for it).  It says the "drive"
(i.e., partition) is not formatted corectly for it to install.  But
letting it format the partition reveals no problems, except that after
it successfully formats it, it still complains that it is not formatted
correctly.  I suspect, though that this really *is* a partitioning
problem, not a motherboard problem.

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Re: rsync knoppix dvd download

2005-08-29 Thread Bryan Donlan
On 8/29/05, L.V.Gandhi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I have tried as follows.
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]# export RSYNC_PROXY=150.1.35.36:3128
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]# rsync download.linuxtag.org::
> bad response from proxy - HTTP/1.0 403 Forbidden
> rsync: failed to connect to 150.1.35.36: Success (0)
> rsync error: error in socket IO (code 10) at clientserver.c(94)
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]#
> What to do?

Your proxy forbids the HTTP CONNECT method, it seems. Without that,
rsync cannot function. If rsync is vital to you, you will have to
speak with your proxy administrator and have them reconfigure it to
allow CONNECT to rsync ports. Otherwise, just use HTTP or FTP.



Re: Can't install Sarge on an HP NetServer

2005-08-29 Thread Jonathan Opperman

On 29 Aug 2005, at 3:50 PM, marco_elen wrote:


On Mon, 29 Aug 2005 15:09:51 +0200, Jonathan Opperman wrote:



On Mon, 29 Aug 2005 13:48:45 +0100,  Clive Menzies wrote:


Your CD rom is normally /dev/hdc ?


When I use the old kernel, the command
mount -t iso9660 /dev/hda /cdrom
works, but not with the new kernel.
May it be a problem in the kernel, in the sense that the new kernel I
installed does not have the support for my CD driver?
How can I discover this?

Best regards,
Marco Ballini

[...]

What is the output of :

"grep CD /var/log/dmesg"

and:

"cat /etc/fstab"



The (relevant) output of
# cat /etc/fstab
is:
/dev/cdrom /cdrom iso9660 ro,user,noauto 0 0

and the file /dev/cdrom is a symbolic link to /dev/hda

The output of
# grep CD /var/log/dmesg
when booting with old kernel (2.2.20) on a rescue diskette (created 
when installing Woody vanilla) is:

hda: CD-540E, ATAPI CDROM drive
hda: ATAPI 20x CDROM drive, 128k cache
Uniform CD-ROM driver Revision: 3.11

while I get no output when booting with the new kernel (2.4.27) 
installed with:

# aptitude install kernel-image-2.4.27-2-686-smp

Best regards,
Marco Ballini

[...]

Haven't worked on 2.4.x in a while, but try this:

"modprobe ide-cd" AFAICR

then

Any indication that it's loading the module in:

"dmesg"

if yes then try "mount /cdrom"

Ciao
Jonathan

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Re: OT: Electoral College [Re: U.S. federal income tax program]

2005-08-29 Thread Paul Johnson
On Sunday 28 August 2005 11:26 pm, Steve Lamb wrote:
> Going to try to sell me
> the line she's not a liberal?

Given that the Democrats have been a slightly-right-of-center party as long as 
I've been alive, yes.  Hillary Clinton is a moderate-conservative.


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Re: Can't install Sarge on an HP NetServer

2005-08-29 Thread Jonathan Opperman

On 29 Aug 2005, at 3:50 PM, marco_elen wrote:


On Mon, 29 Aug 2005 15:09:51 +0200, Jonathan Opperman wrote:



On Mon, 29 Aug 2005 13:48:45 +0100,  Clive Menzies wrote:


Your CD rom is normally /dev/hdc ?


When I use the old kernel, the command
mount -t iso9660 /dev/hda /cdrom
works, but not with the new kernel.
May it be a problem in the kernel, in the sense that the new kernel I
installed does not have the support for my CD driver?
How can I discover this?

Best regards,
Marco Ballini

[...]

What is the output of :

"grep CD /var/log/dmesg"

and:

"cat /etc/fstab"



The (relevant) output of
# cat /etc/fstab
is:
/dev/cdrom /cdrom iso9660 ro,user,noauto 0 0

and the file /dev/cdrom is a symbolic link to /dev/hda

The output of
# grep CD /var/log/dmesg
when booting with old kernel (2.2.20) on a rescue diskette (created 
when installing Woody vanilla) is:

hda: CD-540E, ATAPI CDROM drive
hda: ATAPI 20x CDROM drive, 128k cache
Uniform CD-ROM driver Revision: 3.11

while I get no output when booting with the new kernel (2.4.27) 
installed with:

# aptitude install kernel-image-2.4.27-2-686-smp

Best regards,
Marco Ballini

[...]

To add:

Also "modprobe cdrom"

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Re: What is the point of sudo?

2005-08-29 Thread Jeronimo Pellegrini
On Sun, Aug 28, 2005 at 06:58:37PM -0400, Michael Spang wrote:
> Ian wrote:
> 
> >I know it provides a fake root environment for work, but why would you 
> >want that?
> >
> > 
> >
> No, sudo allows root privileges on a per-user, per-command, and per-host 
> basis.

Yes -- but I would be careful when granting permissions with sudo. If
the user will run any program that is able to edit (or even overwrite)
files, then he'll be able to change /etc/passwd, or /etc/sudoers. If
he will install packages, he will be able to configure packages too,
possibly giving him more privileges than I'd want him to have... If
he is able to use a front-end to some application that is able to
edit files, then he's already root.
I think this has been said here before, but since the original poster
asked, and since I didn't see anyone mentioning this in the thread,
I thought it would be good to mention it.
Anyway -- it's a good idea to have sysadmins use sudo when you want
to know who exactly did what, as someone else posted.

J.


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Re: support for nvidia nforce2?

2005-08-29 Thread Bruno Buys

   Hi, Hendrik,
   USB not functioning can be a problem, for me. I have one of these 
mp3 player (usb storage). So far, it is working more or less ok, in 
debian sarge with VIA KT600 Abit board. More or less because it is said 
to be USB 2.0, but I get only ~800Kbps top, from it, which isn´t good 
even for a 1.1.
   Do you have any idea if the usb problems are nforce2 related or 
A7N8X-X related? I mean, there can other boards with usb ok, using this 
chipset?
   Thanks for the info. Its nice to know details from the hw before you 
put your money into it. Other searches I did say this chipset is ok, but 
don´t give much detail.



Bruno







Hendrik Boom wrote:


On Mon, Aug 29, 2005 at 01:55:32PM +0200, Dominique Dumont wrote:
 


Bruno Buys <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

   

  I'm considering buying an abit with nforce2 chipset. How does Debian 
play with it? Any experiences? Another option would be the kt600 
via-based boards. Is nforce2 worth the trouble, if any?
 

Nforce2 boards runs well (I've an a7n8x deluxe).   
   



I have an A7N8X-X running Debian sarge.  Quite reliably,
except for almost everything relating to the USB ports.
I've been wondering if this is a hardware or software problem.
Does anyone else have experience with this board?  What kernel
do you use?  Did discover discover everything or did you have to
override?  Of so, how?

I've *never* managed to get the USB ports to work reliably.
USB thumb drives don't work at all.  MP3 players don't work at all
(I'm talking about those that pretend to be standard USP hard disks).
All these work fine on another machine, in either sarge or Windows.
The other machine does NOT have an NVidia chipset (but does have
an NVidia graphics card).

A 200GB IDE drive in a USB enclosure?  Got one of these.  It works
for a few minutes, then conks out.  I get to partition it and create
a Reiser file system on it, but when I start transferring bulk data
to it, it stope working.  Same drive works fine with NTFS on Windows.
But it might be the USB enclosure at fault, not the PC, because it
fails when plugged in to the other sarge machine I mentioned above.
MAybe it's not within spec, but Windows doesn't happen to pay attention
to that piece of spec either.  The IDE drive within it is fine.
After I removed it from the USB enclosure, and connected it
directly as an IDE drive, I could do all the things I couldn't through
the UBS enclosure.

By the way, I also have an Alphasmart, which interfaces to the computer
as a USB keyboard.  It works *perfectly*.  It recognised the my Debian
PC as an Apple Macintosh.  I guess recent Macs *are* more like Linux
systems than Windows.

The store wants me to try this out on my own machine in Windows.  They say
that way they'll know if it's really a hardware problem.  But Windows ME
won't install (I have a partition free for it).  It says the "drive"
(i.e., partition) is not formatted corectly for it to install.  But
letting it format the partition reveals no problems, except that after
it successfully formats it, it still complains that it is not formatted
correctly.  I suspect, though that this really *is* a partitioning
problem, not a motherboard problem.

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A question about logrotate

2005-08-29 Thread Thomas H. George
I ran out of space in a 9 Gbyte /var directory, most of the space 
consumed by debug, kern.log and syslog files.  With a little searching I 
found the logrotate command and realized these files were being 
rotated.   In /var/log I found a large (approximately 1 Gbyte) syslog 
file plus an equally large syslog.0 file and seven syslog.n.gz files 
where n=1..7.  The same was true of the debug and kern.log files. 
Examining the /etc/logrotate.conf file I found nothing that corresponded 
to this rotation scheme so there must be a default somewhere.  To free 
space I added the following lines to the logrotate.conf file:


/var/log/debug {
   missingok
   daily
   rotate 1
}

/var/log/kern.log {
   missingok
   daily
   rotate 1
}

/var/log/syslog {
   missingok
   daily
   rotate 1
}

and then ran logrotate -f /etc/logrotate.conf.

This freed up 3 Gbytes of space but it perhaps is a very crude 
solution.  As I noted above, the files were being rotated but not 
according to the logrotate.conf file so there must be a default 
somewhere.  Where?  Should I try to find and edit it?  Does anyone have 
a well thought out logrotate.conf file or more detailed information than 
that given in the man pages?


I would appreciate any comments or suggestions.

Tom George


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rack servers debian friendly

2005-08-29 Thread Rodney Richison
Having found the Netserver LPr to be not so debian friendly, I'm looking 
to buy a coupla used 600mhz 2u units that are more friendly. I'd like to 
be able to load mepis up in case of emergency etc, though the unit's 
will have debian sarge installed.


I'd like suggestions on which brand may be more friendly to debian?  
IBM, dell?  or what?


Or should I just resign myself to keep "rolling my own"   :)

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When kill -9 won't do

2005-08-29 Thread Kent West
Other than rebooting the machine, is there a stronger kill signal than -9 ?

I was scp'ing some files from a CD drive on the remote machine; the
process hung, so I ctrl-C'd on my end. Then I ssh'd into the remote
machine, and I see the scp process is still running. I've been unable to
kill it. Any ideas? (Also, any process on the cdrom, such as "ls
/cdrom", also hangs, and I can't kill it either.)

Thanks!

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"ata1 is slow to respond, please be patient" msg

2005-08-29 Thread Leonardo Francalanci

Hi,
I'm trying to install a debian system (3.1) on a Asus K8N motherboard 
(nVidia SATA).

My sata drive can't be seen from the system:

What I get is:

ata1 is slow to respond, please be patient
ata1 failed to respond (30 secs)


I tried with knoppix, it didn't work either. There are some drivers to 
use (http://www.nvidia.com/object/linux_nforce_1.0-0283.html), but I can 
I use them if I don't install the system???




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Re: pppoeconf and verizon dsl

2005-08-29 Thread Thomas H. George
On Sat, Aug 27, 2005 at 08:48:14AM -0400, Thomas H. George wrote:
> On Fri, Aug 26, 2005 at 03:50:47PM -0500, John Hasler wrote:
> > Jude DaShiell writes: 
> > > [pppoeconf and verizon dsl} don't work together...
> > 
> > Why not file a bug report explaining exactly what goes wrong so that the
> > developer can fix it?
> > 
> > -- 
> > John Hasler
> 
> I have no problem with pppoeconf and verizion dsl - I have used them
> together for several years, first with 2.4.x kernels and Woody, now with
> a 2.6.8 kernel and Sarge.
> 
> Tom George
> > 

Footnote:  pppoeconf fetches the IP's of verizon's name servers and
stores them in resolv.conf which is very handy as I need them for other
boxes on the lan.  I once called verizon help to ask for the IP's of the
name servers and they didn't understand what I was talking about.

Tom George

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Re: When kill -9 won't do

2005-08-29 Thread garaged
On 8/29/05, Kent West <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Other than rebooting the machine, is there a stronger kill signal than -9 ?
> 
> I was scp'ing some files from a CD drive on the remote machine; the
> process hung, so I ctrl-C'd on my end. Then I ssh'd into the remote
> machine, and I see the scp process is still running. I've been unable to
> kill it. Any ideas? (Also, any process on the cdrom, such as "ls
> /cdrom", also hangs, and I can't kill it either.)
Is it actually running or just idle or zombie ??

Max
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Re: U.S. federal income tax program

2005-08-29 Thread Andrew Schulman
> Are there any income tax computation programs available for Linux
> (Debian)?

The only one I've ever seen is Open Tax Solver:
http://opentaxsolver.sourceforge.net/.  The last I looked it was in
alpha state, but that was a while ago.



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Re: Portable OGG Player

2005-08-29 Thread Michael A. Miller
> "Derek" == Derek \"The Monkey\" Wueppelmann  writes:

> On Fri, 2005-26-08 at 12:23 +0100, Dave Ewart wrote:

> Anybody have a player that has at least 20GB of storage
> that plays oggs?  

I use a neuros with a 30 Gbyte drive.

Mike


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Re: Best strategy for multiple terminals connected to one server

2005-08-29 Thread dsr
On Mon, Aug 29, 2005 at 08:40:43AM -0400, Antonio Rodriguez wrote:
> I plan to implement a system similar to a cybercafe, the basic being
> the following:
> 
> <> A central server.
> <> Several end points with terminals, keyboards (no sound), with
>access to programs running from the server, which output to the
>terminals.
> <> The end points are connected to the central server by ...
>(Suggestions are sought).
> 
> Suggestions, pointers to howtos, implementations, etc, will be
> strongly appreciated.

It depends on what you want.

If you want X, you have three basic choices:

 - multiple video cards, USB keyboards and USB mice
   - provides excellent performance
   - can be used even for action games
   - limited number of heads per server (perhaps as many as 10)
 - connect X terminals via ethernet
   - minimal configuration
   - used X terms are cheap, new ones are expensive
   - performance is good for most tasks, not sufficient for 3D
 or some action games
   - number of X terms limited mostly by server performance
 - turn old PCs into X terms (see the Linux Terminal Server
   Project for details)

If you don't want X, you can install multiport serial cards and
virtually any PC can act as a terminal, or you can acquire used
or new serial terminals. This is the cheapest route, and number
of terminals is pretty much limited by server performance.

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Re: When kill -9 won't do

2005-08-29 Thread Kent West
garaged wrote:

>On 8/29/05, Kent West <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>  
>
>>Other than rebooting the machine, is there a stronger kill signal than -9 ?
>>
>>I was scp'ing some files from a CD drive on the remote machine; the
>>process hung, so I ctrl-C'd on my end. Then I ssh'd into the remote
>>machine, and I see the scp process is still running. I've been unable to
>>kill it. Any ideas? (Also, any process on the cdrom, such as "ls
>>/cdrom", also hangs, and I can't kill it either.)
>>
>>
>Is it actually running or just idle or zombie ??
>
>Max
>  
>
It didn't indicate being zombie; however, both processes finally "let
go" and disappeared. I don't know if they died, or finally responded to
my Ctrl-C attempts, or finally responded to my kill -9 attempts, or what.

Still, I would've thought a kill -9 would unequivocally, no questions
asked, kill a process dead. But it apparently doesn't.

Thanks, anyway!

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Re: When kill -9 won't do

2005-08-29 Thread Jan C. Nordholz
> Other than rebooting the machine, is there a stronger kill signal than -9 ?
> 
> I was scp'ing some files from a CD drive on the remote machine; the
> process hung, so I ctrl-C'd on my end. Then I ssh'd into the remote
> machine, and I see the scp process is still running. I've been unable to
> kill it. Any ideas? (Also, any process on the cdrom, such as "ls
> /cdrom", also hangs, and I can't kill it either.)

Hi!

If kill -9 doesn't help, then the process is most likely sleeping in a
kernel I/O routine (process state 'D' in the output of ps) - and if every
other process that tries to access the cd drive hangs as well, I guess
there's something wrong with the drive or the disk in it (first example
that comes to my mind: the CD is damaged, and the drive tries to read
the same sector over and over again, never returning either data or
an error). You should check dmesg or the syslog for corresponding error
messages.

But to answer your original question: There's no way to force a process
to come out of the 'uninterruptible sleep' state - it can recover by itself
(when the kernel function returns), or you can reboot the machine.


Regards,

Jan

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Re: adding modules to kernel

2005-08-29 Thread Bob Proulx
Adam Hardy wrote:
> Right. Having read that and also the man page, I got the following 
> advice which confused my simple caffeine starved brain. What do I do if 
> I only want to compile a module which I forgot in xconfig? Can I avoid 
> the complete compile??

Yes.  This is exactly the same as if you did not use the option
--append-to-version.  But when making additional modules use the same
option with the same argument.

The lever here is the clean is the "do_clean := NO" option.

> Quote man:
>  --append_to_version foo
> [snip.]
> Please  note that you must run a make-kpkg clean after configuring the 
> kernel using make (x|menu)?config, since that creates the file 
> include/linux/version.h without the append_to_version data (foo). This 
> file won't be updated by the make-kpkg run (make-kpkg creates version.h 
> if it doesn't exist, but doesn't touch if exists), so the final kernel 
> will _not_ have the append_to_version data in its version number it 
> shall look for the modules  and  symbols in all the wrong places. The 
> simplest solution is either to remove include/linux/version.h after 
> configuring and before compiling, or running make-kpkg clean after 
> configuring, before compiling.

Good catch.  In that case I would follow the suggestion and remove the
file include/linux/version.h after and before compiling just as it
said.  It will then be rebuilt with the version including the part
appended from --append-to-version and everything should be consistent.

Bob


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DVD burning with 2.6.13

2005-08-29 Thread Dirk
Hello everyone,
Since kernel 2.6.9 writing CD's and DVD's suck. The best I can achieve
with 2.6.13 is single-speed dvd-recording. I would switch back to 2.6.8
but reiser4 is only available since 2.6.9...(i don't care about the
"blablabla experimental blablabla" stuff - and i'm certain that it is
not the problem)...

I would like to know If anyone can write CD's/DVD's with kernels newer
than 2.6.8 without problems?!

Thanks,
Dirk


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Re: Can't install Sarge on an HP NetServer

2005-08-29 Thread Bob Proulx
marco_elen wrote:
> I finally could install Sarge on an HP NetServer LH4. (I could post
> a report when I'll have all the probelms solved).

The problems you are having just seem so strange.  I used to have four
netservers running Debian.  But have recently upgraded them to faster
and newer hardware and so can't confirm your troubles.  But they had
been running fine with woody.

> First I installed Woody, then I upgraded to Sarge.
> I also updated the kernel from 2.2.20 to kernel-image-2.4.27-2-686-smp.
> After some problems I could get a working Sarge.

Good.  But I would push on to a 2.6 kernel.  That would open up even
more support in terms of discover, hotplug and udev.

In fact could your installation troubles may be because you were
selecting a 2.4 kernel at isntall time?  If so then I really strongly
recommend installing with a 2.6 kernel at Debian Sarge installation
time.

> But I also found that the cdrom isn't working anymore:
> mount -t iso9660 /dev/hda /cdrom
> gives: /dev/hda not a valid block device.
> I can get it to work using old kernel on the rescue diskette, but don't know 
> how to solve this.
> 
> Does anybody have any hint?

It was not clear if you were using lilo or grub but personally I
prefer grub so that I can stack up a lot of kernels during testing and
in cases like this.

I would upgrade to a 2.6 kernel.  Then install discover, hotplug and
udev.  That combination has great success detecting hardware and
automatically configuring it for the system.  Then I would clean
/etc/modules of unneeded modules and let the autodetection do as much
of it as possible.

If you install Debian Sarge with the 2.6 kernel then you get the above
configuration automatically.

Bob


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Re: Can't install Sarge on an HP NetServer

2005-08-29 Thread marco_elen
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On Mon, 29 Aug 2005 16:32:22 +0200, Jonathan Opperman wrote:

> Haven't worked on 2.4.x in a while, but try this:
>
> "modprobe ide-cd" AFAICR
>
> then
>
> Any indication that it's loading the module in:
>
> "dmesg"
>
> if yes then try "mount /cdrom"

With:
# modprobe ide-cd
I get:
Uniform Multiplatform E-IDE driver Revision: 7.00beta4-2.4
ide: Assuming 33MHz system bus speed for PIO modes; override with idebus=xx

With:
# modprobe cdrom
I get no output.

After that mount /cdrom still does not work.

I could stay with old kernel and also upgrade to newer 2.6.xx, but don't know 
if I'll experience other problems (the ones I'm having are enough for me now 
;)).

Further I need to install LVM support for my two disk drives (I have all in one 
disk now) but I don't actually know how to check if a kernel has LVM support 
(and I hoped that newer ones have it). Does anybody know this?

Anyhow I really would like to _understand_ why cdrom isn't working for me now 
and how I can solve this (...yes I'd like to learn more about Linux and 
Debian:)).

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Re: Can't install Sarge on an HP NetServer

2005-08-29 Thread marco_elen
On Mon, 29 Aug 2005 09:36:04 -0600, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

>[...]
> It was not clear if you were using lilo or grub but personally I
> prefer grub so that I can stack up a lot of kernels during testing and
> in cases like this.

I'm using Lilo and I'm not expert with Grub, but I would like to learn using it.

> I would upgrade to a 2.6 kernel.  Then install discover, hotplug and
> udev.  That combination has great success detecting hardware and
> automatically configuring it for the system.  Then I would clean
> /etc/modules of unneeded modules and let the autodetection do as much
> of it as possible.

Ok, I'll try this way.


> If you install Debian Sarge with the 2.6 kernel then you get the above
> configuration automatically.

The problem is that when I tried to install using 2.6 kernel I got Kernel Panic 
messages, which discouraged me quite a lot. I finally could install Debian but 
only using 2.2.20 kernel shipped with Woody (vanilla).

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Re: When kill -9 won't do

2005-08-29 Thread Ishwar Rattan


On Mon, 29 Aug 2005, Kent West wrote:

> garaged wrote:
>
> >On 8/29/05, Kent West <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> >
> >>Other than rebooting the machine, is there a stronger kill signal than -9 ?
> >>
> >>I was scp'ing some files from a CD drive on the remote machine; the
> >>process hung, so I ctrl-C'd on my end. Then I ssh'd into the remote
> >>machine, and I see the scp process is still running. I've been unable to
> >>kill it. Any ideas? (Also, any process on the cdrom, such as "ls
> >>/cdrom", also hangs, and I can't kill it either.)
> >>
> >>
> >Is it actually running or just idle or zombie ??
> >
> >Max
> >
> >
> It didn't indicate being zombie; however, both processes finally "let
> go" and disappeared. I don't know if they died, or finally responded to
> my Ctrl-C attempts, or finally responded to my kill -9 attempts, or what.
>
> Still, I would've thought a kill -9 would unequivocally, no questions
> asked, kill a process dead. But it apparently doesn't.

Kill -9 is of no  help if a process is stuck on time-out type event.
Generally ps shows a D in the status column for such a process.

-ishwar


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Re: OT: Electoral College [Re: U.S. federal income tax program]

2005-08-29 Thread Hal Vaughan
On Monday 29 August 2005 02:26 am, Steve Lamb wrote:
> Hal Vaughan wrote:
> > On Monday 29 August 2005 12:40 am, Roberto C. Sanchez wrote:
> >>First off, it would be nice if more people held that view.  Maybe then
> >>we would not be suffering at the hands of liberals and neo-cons that
> >>think that the only way to accomplish anything is with a bigger
> >>government that dictates people's personal lives to them.
> >
> > It's not liberals that feel that way.  Liberal has just become a
> > catch-all word used by people that want to blame someone else for doing
> > what they think is wrong.
>
> I used to think that way but once you look at it, nope, they're one of
> the bigger causes of the problem.  The difference is the liberals wrap
> their stink in an outer coating of "but we're helping people."  Let's not
> forget the latest fiasco...  OMG, a hack of GTA, a game where one jacks
> cars, starts and actively participatesin gang wars, goes on assasin hits
> and other nice things allows you to see a bad sex scene!  We must have
> legislation!  We need to get to the bottom of this!  The top screacher in
> Congress?  Hillary Rodham Clinton, New York (D).  Going to try to sell me
> the line she's not a liberal?  If you want to see a liberal dictating
> larger government at tbe expense of a person's personal life just look for
> the word "protect" and you'll spot it.  It's a bingo if "protect" is
> followed almost immediately by "children".

Thanks for proving my point by focusing on one point and getting stuck on it 
instead of looking at the overall picture.

Now look at how much government grew, including how big the debt grow under 
Reagan, Bush, and Bush, compared to Clinton.  The closest thing we've had to 
a real Republican President since Eisenhower is Clinton. 

Hal


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Re: Can't install Sarge on an HP NetServer

2005-08-29 Thread marco_elen
On Mon, 29 Aug 2005 09:36:04 -0600, bob wrote:
> [...]
> I would upgrade to a 2.6 kernel.  Then install discover, hotplug and
> udev.  That combination has great success detecting hardware and
> automatically configuring it for the system.  Then I would clean
> /etc/modules of unneeded modules and let the autodetection do as much
> of it as possible.

I installed a 2.6 kernel with:
# aptitude kernel-image-2.6.8-2-686-smp
and configure lilo to boot it.
I also installed discover, hotplug and udev.
(Actually it couldn't install libusb, but I don't care because I won't use usb).

But when I rebooted with the new kernel I got:
<0>Kernel panic: Attempted to kill init!

Which is the same problem I got when I tried to install 2.6 at Sarge 
installation time.

So, the only kernel that is working for me now is 2.2.20.

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GTK

2005-08-29 Thread Gallagher Timothy-TIMOTHYG

Does Debian have a apt package gtk-devel, I need something like this to
install some other software.

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Re: Adding a progress bar into start-up

2005-08-29 Thread Kumar Appaiah
On Mon, Aug 29, 2005 at 12:55:10AM +0100, Mark Crean wrote:
> 
> http://hacks.oreilly.com/pub/h/3124
> 

This article is great, but beware. The bootsplash userland packages
for Debian are miserably broken, and it took me quite a while to fix
the stuff (to force removal) and reinstall the things.

Do keep this URL at hand, for troubleshooting:
http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/forum.php?forum_id=36622&max_rows=25&style=nested&viewmonth=200504

And yes, bootsplash does make starting and shutdown aesthetic on
desktop machines!

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Re: DVD burning with 2.6.13

2005-08-29 Thread Andrew Schulman
> Hello everyone,
> Since kernel 2.6.9 writing CD's and DVD's suck. The best I can achieve
> with 2.6.13 is single-speed dvd-recording. I would switch back to 2.6.8
> but reiser4 is only available since 2.6.9...(i don't care about the
> "blablabla experimental blablabla" stuff - and i'm certain that it is
> not the problem)...
> 
> I would like to know If anyone can write CD's/DVD's with kernels newer
> than 2.6.8 without problems?!

I feel your pain.  I've struggled with this sort of problem in the
past and have never found a comprehensive solution-- I just fiddle
with stuff and upgrade until the problem sorts itself out again.

As of now I'm burning with kernel 2.6.10, all media including DL DVDs,
with no problems or speed restrictions.


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Re: adding modules to kernel

2005-08-29 Thread Adam Hardy

Bob Proulx on 29/08/05 16:28, wrote:

--append-to-version.  But when making additional modules use the same
option with the same argument.

The lever here is the clean is the "do_clean := NO" option.
[SNIP] 
Good catch.  In that case I would follow the suggestion and remove the

file include/linux/version.h after and before compiling just as it
said.  It will then be rebuilt with the version including the part
appended from --append-to-version and everything should be consistent.


OK, but to try it out I have to find another module that I'm missing, 
since I compiled in the i2c modules that I need (and so have a boot dir 
full of kernels)


Various candidates present themselves for addition, but I can't find 
them in make menuconfig or xconfig.


The following errors appear in my boot log and point to missing modules:

Mon Aug 29 16:52:11 2005: Loading modules...
Mon Aug 29 16:52:11 2005: ide-cd
Mon Aug 29 16:52:12 2005: ide-generic
Mon Aug 29 16:52:12 2005: psmouse
Mon Aug 29 16:52:12 2005: mousedev
Mon Aug 29 16:52:12 2005: FATAL: Module mousedev not found.
Mon Aug 29 16:52:12 2005: alias
Mon Aug 29 16:52:12 2005: FATAL: Module alias not found.

I can't find mousedev in make menuconfig. I don't know why linux is 
looking for those modules either.


As for alias, it comes from this line in my /etc/modules
# I2C module options
alias char-major-89 i2c-dev

What is that config line meant to do? My i2c stuff is working nicely 
with GKrellM now (using lm_sensors)


And there is also:

Mon Aug 29 16:52:13 2005: Detecting hardware: i810_tco e100 piix 
i810_audio usb_uhci ehci_hcd

Mon Aug 29 16:52:13 2005: Skipping unavailable/built-in i810_tco module.
Mon Aug 29 16:52:13 2005: Loading e100 module.
Mon Aug 29 16:52:13 2005: Skipping already loaded module piix.
Mon Aug 29 16:52:13 2005: Loading i810_audio module.
Mon Aug 29 16:52:14 2005: Skipping unavailable/built-in usb_uhci module.

Does this mean that i810_tco and usb_uhci do not have hardware 
available? I can't find i810_tco in make menuconfig and make menuconfig 
seems to be telling me that usb_uhci is set to M already (USB_UHCI_HCD)



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Re: sarge + postfix + mysql

2005-08-29 Thread Juan Manuel Tato

i've solved..
thanks very much.
bur now i'm havin other problem:

Aug 29 12:35:21 ns1 postfix/virtual[5394]: 45C13650242:
to=<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, relay=virtual, delay=0, status=deferred
(recipient [EMAIL PROTECTED]: bad uid 106 in virtual_uid_maps)

and in my main.cf  i have added this lines
virtual_alias_maps = mysql:/etc/postfix/mysql_virtual_alias_maps.cf
virtual_gid_maps = static:107
virtual_mailbox_base = /usr/local/virtual
virtual_mailbox_domains = mysql:/etc/postfix/mysql_virtual_domains_maps.cf
virtual_mailbox_limit = 5120
virtual_mailbox_maps = mysql:/etc/postfix/mysql_virtual_mailbox_maps.cf
virtual_minimum_uid = 1001
virtual_transport = virtual
virtual_uid_maps = static:106

from my pssswd file
postfix:x:106:107::/var/spool/postfix:/bin/false

any ideas?
thanks in advance
manuel

Kevin Coyner wrote:


On Fri, Aug 26, 2005 at 02:03:41PM -0300, Juan Manuel Tato wrote..

 


kevin, thanks for your help, but is not working.  i'd created
as you told the provider_admin user, into mysql db, user table...
but still the same problems
   



 


Aug 24 18:48:08 ns1 postfix/smtpd[3322]: connect from
localhost.localdomain[127.0.0.1]
Aug 24 18:48:40 ns1 postfix/smtpd[3322]: 0DA3465029B:
client=localhost.localdomain[127.0.0.1]
Aug 24 18:48:45 ns1 postfix/cleanup[3469]: 0DA3465029B:
message-id=<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Aug 24 18:48:45 ns1 postfix/qmgr[2855]: 0DA3465029B: from=<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
size=354, nrcpt=1 (queue active)
Aug 24 18:48:45 ns1 postfix/virtual[3472]: warning: connect to mysql
server 127.0.0.1: Access denied for user 'postfix'@'localhost' (using
   



Manuel - you still have something wrong with your user.  Look at
the line immediately above.  It says:

   "Access denied for user 'postfix'@'localhost'.

So when postfix/courier is doing a mysql database lookup, it is
presently doing so as user 'postfix'.  Yet you state that you've set
up everything to be user 'provider_admin'.

So check your entries in the mysql DB again in the user and db
tables.

Also, in /etc/postfix, you should have something similar to:

mysql-virtual_domains.cf
mysql-virtual_email2email.cf
mysql-virtual_forwardings.cf
mysql-virtual_lists_transport.cf
mysql-virtual_mailboxes.cf

Double check that each of these is correct.  For example, my
mysql-virtual_domains.cf file has:

user = vmail
password = xxx
dbname = provider
table = domains
select_field = transport
where_field = domain
hosts = 127.0.0.1

... and in my mysql db, in the user table, I have a user named
'vmail' that is only allowed to log in from localhost and has no
default priviledges.  In the mysql database, db table I have an
entry for User 'vmail', Host 'localhost' and Db 'provider'.  And
associated with this entry is where this user gets all the necessary
permissions for accessing the database 'provider'.

vmail is my equivalent of your 'provider_admin'.

You should be able to open up an xterm on the server and type the
following:

$ mysql -u provider_admin -p provider

... and be prompted for the password for provider_admin.  If you
cannot do this and gain command line entry to the provider database,
then you still do not have the mysql db entries right for your user.

If you can do this, then I suspect you have an error in your
mysql-virtual_x.cf files.

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Re: A question about logrotate

2005-08-29 Thread Hans Hofker

Thomas H. George wrote:

I ran out of space in a 9 Gbyte /var directory, most of the space 
consumed by debug, kern.log and syslog files.


...

As I noted above, the files were being rotated but not according to 
the logrotate.conf file so there must be a default somewhere.  Where?


On my system, the logfile rotation is configured in /etc/cron.daily/sysklogd
and /etc/cron.weekly/sysklogd


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Re: DVD burning with 2.6.13

2005-08-29 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Mon, 29 Aug 2005, Dirk wrote:
> I would like to know If anyone can write CD's/DVD's with kernels newer
> than 2.6.8 without problems?!

Sure.

Without a lspci, hdparm /dev/ and a bit more information, it gets
difficult to know why you cannot, btw.

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Re: I messed up bootmisc.sh - now can't log in!

2005-08-29 Thread dwilliams1066
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

>Michael Spang <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>>[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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>>>Michael Spang <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
Alan Ianson wrote:



>On Sat August 27 2005 06:38 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
>
>
>
>>Alan Ianson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>>On Sat August 27 2005 05:28 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
I've tried booting off a cd-rom and mounting the disk, but I can't get
the disk to mount for some reason.  I'm willing to try pretty much
anything at this point.




>>>My default grub menu list has a "recovery" option. If that option isn't
>>>there for some reason edit your grub boot command line and try adding
>>>"single" to the end. I've never tried it manually before but I have used
>>>the recovery mode a few times and I think that's the only difference.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>Ah, but there's the problem.  I can't log in to edit anything.  Is there
>>a way to make a menu come up?  (Am I missing something, besides a system
>>prompt of course  ;-)
>>
>>
>>
>>
>At the grub menu, before the kernel boots. Hit a key to stop the default 
>from
>booting and I believe if you press "e" you can edit the boot command. Just
>add "single" to the end and then boot that way. That will boot in recovery
>mode I think. I hope mysql isn't loading in that mode ;). If that doesn't
>work you may need to boot with a knopix or ubuntu disk and edit whatever
>needs editing that way.
>
>
>
>
>
>
Ha. If its running from the startup runlevel then you could always add
init=/bin/bash to your command line. But why would you have MySQL in
/etc/rcS.d/? Also, you don't need to type out 'single', just S will work
fine.

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>>>
>>>It is running from the startup run level, but how do I add
>>>init=/bin/bash if I can't get a system prompt from the system?
>>>
>>>To take another angle on this, I have booted the system under Knoppix, but
>>>when I try to mount the disk, it says "/dev/sda1 NOT A BLOCK DEVICE".
>>>Is there any way to get the system to cough up what it thinks the device
>>>name of the disk is?
>>>
>>>Dave Williams
>>>
>>>
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>>>
>>Are you using LILO or GRUB? As another post said, with GRUB you will
>>have a menu on boot with a list of options, pressing 'e' on the desired
>>option will allow you to add to the command line. With LILO you have to
>>press something else. If all else fails you can use Knoppix to remove
>>the offending startup script.
>>
>>HTH,
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>I've tried to use Knoppix to boot the machine, which it did, but I couldn't 
>mount the disk, which is /dev/sda1.  Would the fact that the logical disk is 
>/dev/sda1, while it's actually a RAID (just mirroring) array possibly make a 
>difference?
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Re: support for nvidia nforce2?

2005-08-29 Thread Hendrik Boom
On Mon, Aug 29, 2005 at 11:35:35AM -0300, Bruno Buys wrote:
>Hi, Hendrik,
>USB not functioning can be a problem, for me. I have one of these 
> mp3 player (usb storage). So far, it is working more or less ok, in 
> debian sarge with VIA KT600 Abit board. More or less because it is said 
> to be USB 2.0, but I get only ~800Kbps top, from it, which isn´t good 
> even for a 1.1.
>Do you have any idea if the usb problems are nforce2 related or 
> A7N8X-X related? I mean, there can other boards with usb ok, using this 
> chipset?
>Thanks for the info. Its nice to know details from the hw before you 
> put your money into it. Other searches I did say this chipset is ok, but 
> don´t give much detail.
> 

For all I know I may just have a bad chip on the motherboard or something,
and thise boards may normally be just fine.  I'd really like to hear
from some other users of this board.

-- hendrik

> 
> Bruno
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Hendrik Boom wrote:
> 
> >On Mon, Aug 29, 2005 at 01:55:32PM +0200, Dominique Dumont wrote:
> > 
> >
> >>Bruno Buys <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> >>
> >>   
> >>
> >>>  I'm considering buying an abit with nforce2 chipset. How does Debian 
> >>>play with it? Any experiences? Another option would be the kt600 
> >>>via-based boards. Is nforce2 worth the trouble, if any?
> >>> 
> >>>
> >>Nforce2 boards runs well (I've an a7n8x deluxe).   
> >>   
> >>
> >
> >I have an A7N8X-X running Debian sarge.  Quite reliably,
> >except for almost everything relating to the USB ports.
> >I've been wondering if this is a hardware or software problem.
> >Does anyone else have experience with this board?  What kernel
> >do you use?  Did discover discover everything or did you have to
> >override?  Of so, how?
> >
> >I've *never* managed to get the USB ports to work reliably.
> >USB thumb drives don't work at all.  MP3 players don't work at all
> >(I'm talking about those that pretend to be standard USP hard disks).
> >All these work fine on another machine, in either sarge or Windows.
> >The other machine does NOT have an NVidia chipset (but does have
> >an NVidia graphics card).
> >
> >A 200GB IDE drive in a USB enclosure?  Got one of these.  It works
> >for a few minutes, then conks out.  I get to partition it and create
> >a Reiser file system on it, but when I start transferring bulk data
> >to it, it stope working.  Same drive works fine with NTFS on Windows.
> >But it might be the USB enclosure at fault, not the PC, because it
> >fails when plugged in to the other sarge machine I mentioned above.
> >MAybe it's not within spec, but Windows doesn't happen to pay attention
> >to that piece of spec either.  The IDE drive within it is fine.
> >After I removed it from the USB enclosure, and connected it
> >directly as an IDE drive, I could do all the things I couldn't through
> >the UBS enclosure.
> >
> >By the way, I also have an Alphasmart, which interfaces to the computer
> >as a USB keyboard.  It works *perfectly*.  It recognised the my Debian
> >PC as an Apple Macintosh.  I guess recent Macs *are* more like Linux
> >systems than Windows.
> >
> >The store wants me to try this out on my own machine in Windows.  They say
> >that way they'll know if it's really a hardware problem.  But Windows ME
> >won't install (I have a partition free for it).  It says the "drive"
> >(i.e., partition) is not formatted corectly for it to install.  But
> >letting it format the partition reveals no problems, except that after
> >it successfully formats it, it still complains that it is not formatted
> >correctly.  I suspect, though that this really *is* a partitioning
> >problem, not a motherboard problem.
> >
> >-- hendrik
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> >
> > 
> >
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Re: GTK

2005-08-29 Thread garaged
> Does Debian have a apt package gtk-devel, I need something like this to
> install some other software.

apt-cache search gtk-dev 
apt-cache search gtk2-dev

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procmail & spamassassin

2005-08-29 Thread Enrique Morfin
Hi!

I'm using testing, exim4_4.52-2, procmail and
spamassassin.

In my procmailrc:

:0fw
* < 256000  # if bigger than this size
| spamassassin   # can also use  | spamc instead if
you have spamd running

:0e
EXITCODE==$?

:0
* ^X-Spam-Status: Yes
/var/log/spamass/spam  # if sa thinks it's a spam,
move it to spam box


it works good, but ...
i have some big aliases (120 mailboxes, or so).
If somewone send a mail to an alias, the message is
checked 120 times at the same time, so it slow down
the server.

How can i tell spamassassin or procmail to check the
message only once? (then deliver to each mailbox)

or where can i find some info about this?

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Re: Wordpress

2005-08-29 Thread Andy Streich
On Monday 29 August 2005 01:15 am, Björn Lindström wrote:
> Andy Streich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> 
> > Agree. Hence the suggestion entailed a blog and the existing email
> > list as two views on exactly the same data.
> 
> Gmane has something like this.
> 
> http://blog.gmane.org/gmane.linux.debian.user
> 

Thanks, Bjorn, that's exactly what I had in mind and it was implemented 3 
years ago.

Any reason not to do add this mailing list to Gname?

Who could do it?

Andy



Re: A question about logrotate

2005-08-29 Thread Wackojacko



Hans Hofker wrote:

Thomas H. George wrote:

I ran out of space in a 9 Gbyte /var directory, most of the space 
consumed by debug, kern.log and syslog files.



...

As I noted above, the files were being rotated but not according to 
the logrotate.conf file so there must be a default somewhere.  Where?



On my system, the logfile rotation is configured in 
/etc/cron.daily/sysklogd

and /etc/cron.weekly/sysklogd


Regards,
Hans.
Have you looked in /etc/logrotate.d/?  I have specific entries for these 
items.  I think the default was to rotate weekly or monthly which I 
changed to daily on my setup.


HTH

Wackojacko


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Re: procmail & spamassassin

2005-08-29 Thread Benjamin Matthew A'Lee
On Mon, 2005-08-29 at 10:35 -0700, Enrique Morfin wrote:
> How can i tell spamassassin or procmail to check the
> message only once? (then deliver to each mailbox)

Hava a look at the SA-Exim package, which will scan it before it gets to
Procmail.

HTH,

Ben

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around).

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Keypad decimal sign should obey LC_NUMERIC

2005-08-29 Thread Jouke Witteveen
By default the mapping of the [. / Del] key of the keypad looks as follows:
[KP_Delete, KP_Decimal]
Which means - correct me if I'm wrong - that with Num-Lock enabled a
keypress would generate the decimal-sign provided by the locales.
The locale I chose on my system is [EMAIL PROTECTED], which states in
/usr/share/i18n/locales/nl_NL:
LC_NUMERIC
decimal_point ""
(... some more ...)
END LC_NUMERIC
U002C is Unicode for "," so in my oppinion KP_Decimal should deliver
",". Why than does it show "."? It does so in the bare terminals,
Gnome-Multi-Terminal, gEdit, OpenOffice, in Mozilla, everywhere!

Please provide the reason of, and solution for this behaviour.

-Jouke



Re: "ata1 is slow to respond, please be patient" msg

2005-08-29 Thread Alan Ianson
On Mon August 29 2005 07:10 am, Leonardo Francalanci wrote:
> Hi,
> I'm trying to install a debian system (3.1) on a Asus K8N motherboard
> (nVidia SATA).
> My sata drive can't be seen from the system:
>
> What I get is:
>
> ata1 is slow to respond, please be patient
> ata1 failed to respond (30 secs)
>
>
> I tried with knoppix, it didn't work either. There are some drivers to
> use (http://www.nvidia.com/object/linux_nforce_1.0-0283.html), but I can
> I use them if I don't install the system???

What kernel are you using? I also have a asus k8n board with nvidia/sata. I 
have never had a problem with it. At the moment I am running sarge (stable) 
with the 2.6.8-2-k7 kernel, but I also have the amd64 sarge installed with a 
2.6.8-?-k8 kernel and both work fine. When I booted the install cd I used the 
"linux26" boot option.


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Re: some cron.daily scripts not running

2005-08-29 Thread Wu-Kung Sun
On 8/28/05, John Hasler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> swk writes:
> > What am I overlooking?
> 
> What are the names of the scripts?

The names are touch.test and ntpdate.cron.

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Re: Wordpress

2005-08-29 Thread Roel Schroeven

Andy Streich wrote:

On Monday 29 August 2005 01:15 am, Björn Lindström wrote:


Andy Streich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:



Agree. Hence the suggestion entailed a blog and the existing email
list as two views on exactly the same data.


Gmane has something like this.

http://blog.gmane.org/gmane.linux.debian.user




Thanks, Bjorn, that's exactly what I had in mind and it was implemented 3 
years ago.


Any reason not to do add this mailing list to Gname?

Who could do it?


Either I don't understand what you're saying or you didn't understand 
the linked website: this mailing list was added to Gmane already a long 
time ago, and the link above links directly to its blog interface on Gmane.


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Re: email clients with reply-to-list feature

2005-08-29 Thread Carl Johnson
Steve Westwood <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> On Sun, 28 Aug 2005 20:01:38 -0700
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> 
> > Quoting kamaraju kusumanchi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> > 
> > > Hi
> > >   I would like to make a list of email clients which have a 
> > > reply-to-list feature either built-in or as an add on. This is what I 
> > > know so far from reading the archives. I am hoping that others would 
> > > comment about whether their favorite email client has this feature or 
> > > not.
> > >
> > > 1) mutt - Yes.
> > > 2) mozilla-thunderbird - no
> > > 3) outlook express - no
> 
> Sylpheed-claws 1.0.4 - yes (Ctrl-L)

Gnus - yes (F or f)

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Re: Problem with Firefox and Mime (I think)

2005-08-29 Thread Jason Martens

Roberto C. Sanchez wrote:

On Tue, Aug 23, 2005 at 05:50:18PM -0500, Jason Martens wrote:

I just installed a clean sarge laptop, and I installed firefox and 
firefox-gnome-support packages.  However, now when I try to download a file, it 
fails to save it.  It just does nothing.  Sometimes (if the url has not been 
obfuscated) I can right click and save as, but that does not always work.  Any 
suggestions?





Are you using version 1.0.4-2sarge2?  If so, it has issues.  This is
just one: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=324311

Yours may or may not be related.  You may want to try 1.0.4-2sarge1 (just
be aware of the security issues) or use the available 1.0.6 backports.


For the list archives, there is a bug report for this issue at 
http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=324609 .


Jason


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Re: some cron.daily scripts not running

2005-08-29 Thread John Hasler
swk writes:
> What am I overlooking?

I wrote: 
> What are the names of the scripts?

swk writes:
> The names are touch.test and ntpdate.cron.

Lose the periods.
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rebuilding packages

2005-08-29 Thread John Smith
Hi All,

caused by various reasons (disagree with compiled in defaults, learning
stuff) I compiled a few packages from source from the project (apt-get source 
...).
I found out that in some cases (notably snmpd and glibc) the rebuilding of the
source actually produces more .deb's than I expected: recompiling libc6 
got me :

-rw-r--r--  1 root src   2217916 2005-08-28 15:18 glibc-doc_2.3.2.ds1-22_all.deb
-rw-r--r--  1 root src   4876000 2005-08-28 15:18 libc6_2.3.2.ds1-22_i386.deb
-rw-r--r--  1 root src  10228256 2005-08-28 15:19 
libc6-dbg_2.3.2.ds1-22_i386.deb
-rw-r--r--  1 root src   2531324 2005-08-28 15:19 
libc6-dev_2.3.2.ds1-22_i386.deb
-rw-r--r--  1 root src959710 2005-08-28 15:19 
libc6-i686_2.3.2.ds1-22_i386.deb
-rw-r--r--  1 root src   1036990 2005-08-28 15:19 
libc6-pic_2.3.2.ds1-22_i386.deb
-rw-r--r--  1 root src   2013058 2005-08-28 15:19 
libc6-prof_2.3.2.ds1-22_i386.deb
-rw-r--r--  1 root src719330 2005-08-28 15:19 
libc6-udeb_2.3.2.ds1-22_i386.udeb
-rw-r--r--  1 root src  7724 2005-08-28 15:19 
libnss-dns-udeb_2.3.2.ds1-22_i386.udeb
-rw-r--r--  1 root src 13742 2005-08-28 15:19 
libnss-files-udeb_2.3.2.ds1-22_i386.udeb
-rw-r--r--  1 root src   3984356 2005-08-28 15:18 locales_2.3.2.ds1-22_all.deb
-rw-r--r--  1 root src 92698 2005-08-28 15:19 nscd_2.3.2.ds1-22_i386.deb

and rebuilding snmpd, libsnmp-base and libsnmp5 this:

-rw-r--r--  1 root src 1004816 Aug 29 08:47 libsnmp-base_5.1.2-6.1_all.deb
-rw-r--r--  1 root src  808586 Aug 29 08:47 libsnmp-perl_5.1.2-6.1_i386.deb
-rw-r--r--  1 root src 1100308 Aug 29 08:47 libsnmp5-dev_5.1.2-6.1_i386.deb
-rw-r--r--  1 root src 1533566 Aug 29 08:47 libsnmp5_5.1.2-6.1_i386.deb
-rw-r--r--  1 root src  811632 Aug 29 08:47 snmp_5.1.2-6.1_i386.deb
-rw-r--r--  1 root src  730482 Aug 29 08:47 snmpd_5.1.2-6.1_i386.deb
-rw-r--r--  1 root src  754554 Aug 29 08:47 tkmib_5.1.2-6.1_all.deb

What is behind this? Somebody care to enlighten me?

Thanks in advance.

Sincerely,

Jan


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Help connecting to Win98 Shares from Samba (Called name not present)

2005-08-29 Thread Nicholas J Pattison


I need help connecting to a share on a WINDOWS 98 machine using 
smbmount.  I've tried a number of things and still get a "Called name 
not present" error.  I'm using a Sarge installation, but also tried 
connecting to this machine from a Fedora machine, both machines get the 
same error.  However, on a windows XP machine, I can connect no problem.


Here is an output from smbclient:

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$  smbclient //win98machine.nmu.edu/share -I 
192.168.0.6 -U username%passwd

session request to WIN98MACHINE.NMU.EDU failed (Called name not present)
session request to WIN98MACHINE failed (Called name not present)
session request to *SMBSERVER failed (Called name not present)
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$

I've tried a multitude of combinations of commands, ranging from 
smbclient -L server, smbclient -L //ipaddr, smbclient -L 
//server.nmu.edu, smbmount //ip/share, smbmount //server/share, smbmount 
//server.nmu.edu/share, etc


Everything I try results in the same "Called name not present" error.  I 
can connect to other linux samba servers and win2k servers without a 
hitch from this machine.


Any help would be appreciated, as the professor is stubborn about 
keeping this antiquated windows box (even though we are in the CS 
department and frequently use Linux as an OS of choice for departmental 
machines!)  I REALLY DON'T WANT to have to blow away a partition and 
install windowsxp on my laptop.


Thanks


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(OT) ClamAV & Evolution

2005-08-29 Thread Rick Friedman
I'm hoping someone on this list can help me get ClamAv (or KlamAV)
working with Evolution.

As instructed by KlamAV, I've attempted to create filters for Evolution
so all my incoming mail is piped through the application, klammail. This
part seems to work. However, according to the instructions, another
filter should be created after the previous one, which takes action
based on whether the phrase, "virus-found" is in the mail headers.

I have been unable to get this to work. Has anyone been able to do this?
If so, would you post your filters? 

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks,
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spamassassin rules question

2005-08-29 Thread Wayne Sitton
I have been running spamassassin on my own server for quite a wile and
been very happy with it.  Recently I contracted with an ISP, and one of
the things I have been passed with was to take over their spamassassin
server.

Like mine, they were a debian install with the generic ruleset that
comes when installed with Debian, but their original sys admin updated
their rulesets on several occassions.  My question is, looking at my own
rulesets I noticed the all the ruleset filenames start with numbers such
as

10_misc.cf  20_dnsbl_tests.cf  20_html_tests.cf
20_ratware.cf25_hashcash.cf  30_text_fr.cf  60_whitelist.cf
user_prefs.template
20_anti_ratware.cf  20_drugs.cf20_meta_tests.cf
20_uri_tests.cf  25_spf.cf   30_text_nl.cf  65_debian.cf
20_body_tests.cf20_fake_helo_tests.cf  20_phrases.cf 23_bayes.cf
25_uribl.cf 30_text_pl.cf  languages
20_compensate.cf20_head_tests.cf   20_porn.cf
25_body_tests_es.cf  30_text_de.cf   50_scores.cf


But upon looking at the rulesets on their server and on
rulesemporium.com I noticed that most of the filenames start with 70 &
60...etc

SO, my question is, what do the numbers signify?  are they a level, or a
release number or ?

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