Re: amanda

2004-12-29 Thread Paul Mansfield
On Tue, 2004-12-28 at 14:27 -0700, Glenn English wrote:
> Does anybody here use amanda? 

I'm running Amanda on a woody system, all runs fine.

> On my spanky new Sarge system, apt-get's amanda-server simply doesn't
> work. It gets installed as user:group backup:backup, and amdump won't
> run unless the user is amanda. Among other things.

Take a look in your amanda.conf (/etc/amanda/DailySet1/amanda.conf),
that has a dumpuser line. On mine it is backup, the same as the user set
in /etc/inetd.conf. If you run the backup as a different user you need
to fix up the permissions under /var/lib/amanda/DailySet1 to get
amrecover working.
What does amcheck show?

> Compiling from source (from amanda.org) doesn't work either
> because .configure can't find readline, but apt claims it's installed.
> Then the install dies installing amrecover because a source file
> generated by flex is missing. But I can find it... 
Have you got the readline development library installed,
libreadline4-dev or libreadline5-dev?

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Re: chroot: login console does not ask root password

2004-12-29 Thread Victor Munoz

Thanks for the answers! The problem was indeed that I had not yet set the
password for root in the chroot environment. Now everything is normal. 

 Victor
 


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Re: its a matter of ssh and its not working for me

2004-12-29 Thread Sam Watkins
On Tue, Dec 28, 2004 at 04:56:01PM -0700, Kent Andersen wrote:
> I have the public keys placed in remote machines under the correct user 
> account .ssh/ etc.. both sshd_conf files are identical (machines A,B).
> 
> machine A will automatically ssh login (without password) and rysync doesnt 
> ask for password either
> machine B requires me to login with password before the new command will 
> work (ie rsync) but ssh session will not require password.
> 
> I have been trying to figure out why this is happening if anyone can clue 
> me in I would be forever in debt. I have been working on trying to solve 
> this mystery for about a week now. ARRGH!

Did you try ssh -v -v -v to find out at what point ssh is failing?
You could set RSYNC_RSH="ssh -v -v -v".

Are you using ssh-agent?


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Re: Re: Help abt playing file over MODEM

2004-12-29 Thread Allan Kamau
Hi,
I have a related problem, but mine is how to play a sound file over a modem.
At the moment I am unable to send a sound file's content and have the
sound audible at the other end of the line, I get noise instead. I've
tried several files that are mono, 8000Hz, 8 bit.
I am working on a low cost Interactive Voice Response (IVR) project
using a modem connected to the COM port on a PC. My platform is Linux
(Fedora 2) and am using Java (javax.comm) to send AT commands to the
modem connected to the COM port and get responses from it. So far the
application is able to send AT commands to the modem (US Robotics
Voice Fax modem), change the modem state for example from data to
voice by sending AT#CLS=8 successfully and it is even able to detect a
ring and can pick up the phone. To send (play) the greeting voice file
over the modem, obtaining the output stream for the COM port and then
writing to it byte by byte, but at the other end of the receiver I
only hear noise, kindly advise.

Allan.


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Re: Installation

2004-12-29 Thread YH
Thanks Sam, your comments are indeed helpful. Both problems have been 
resolved.

There is another problem of an error message when start x11:
Sound Server information Message:
Error while initializing the sound driver, device /dev/dsp can't be 
opened (Permission denied). The sound server will continue, using the 
null output device.

How can I fix that problem?
Thank you in advance.
Yuja
Sam Watkins wrote:
On Wed, Dec 29, 2004 at 12:54:37PM +1300, YH wrote:
1. The displayed characters flicks on konsole of X11 screen. My monitor 
is a VE710B LCD and my video card is S3 Trio 3D/2X. I could not found 
the driver for the Trio 3D/2X video card during installation, so I 
selected S3virge driver. I am not sure that caused the problem or not, 
how can I resolve this problem? Where can I get S3 Trio 3D/2X driver?

According to /usr/share/doc/xserver-xfree86/README.s3virge, this driver
supports the Trio3D/2x chip.  Possibly you have the refresh rate limits
set too high in /etc/X11/XF86Config-4.

2. The CDROM and Floppy are not defined in mtab, I suspect that the 
debian did not detect the hardware during the installation. I can edit 
mtab to add floppy and cdrom, but I don't know which device in /dev/ 
linked to floppy and cdrom. Could you help please.

mtab is a dynamic list of what devices / filesystems are actually
mounted at a particular time.  You don't normally edit it by hand.  The
table of filesystems is called /etc/fstab.  This is the one which should
have /floppy and /cdrom or whatever in it.
If the floppy or cdrom aren't there, the floppy device is /dev/fd0, and
the cdrom device will probably be /dev/hdb, you can add them in:
/dev/fd0/floppy autodefaults,user,noauto0   0
/dev/hdb/cdrom  iso9660 defaults,ro,user,noauto 0   0
People are mounting their stuff under /media/floppy, /media/cdrom these
days, you can do that if you like.


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Trust 250 mouse - wheel problem

2004-12-29 Thread Diego
Hi, I'm using Debian 3.1/Xfree86 4.3.0.1 with a Trust 250sp mouse.
The problem is that the wheel is not working, only the wheel.
I don't know if this helps, but the mouse works if I configure it like
PS/2, GlidePointPS/2, MouseManPlusPS/2, and doesn't work like ImPS/2,
NetMousePS/2, NetScrollPS/2, ThinkingMousePS/2, ExplorerPS/2.
I also tried with imwheel but nothing ... although it is not required
on Xfree>=4, right?
My XF86Config-4 is like this:
Section "InputDevice"
Identifier "Generic Mouse"
Driver "mouse"
Option "CorePointer"
Option "Device" "/dev/psaux"
Option "Protocol" "PS/2"
Option "Buttons" "5"
Option "ZAxisMapping" "4 5"
EndSection

It doesn't work over neither gnome nor kde.
Thanks in advance!
Diego.


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Re: Installation

2004-12-29 Thread Dani Belz
On Wed, Dec 29, 2004 at 10:00:15PM +1300, YH wrote:

> There is another problem of an error message when start x11:
> 
> Sound Server information Message:
> 
> Error while initializing the sound driver, device /dev/dsp can't be 
> opened (Permission denied). The sound server will continue, using the 
> null output device.
> 
> How can I fix that problem?

Hi,

just check if your $USER is member of the group audio.

As user type
$ groups

If "audio" is not in the list do (as root):
$ adduser $USER audio

And you're done :)

grZ
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Using killfiles

2004-12-29 Thread Paul Johnson
On Tuesday 28 December 2004 03:32 pm, John Hasler wrote:
> Please stop changing the subject of this thread.  It makes it hard to 
> keep it killfiled.

Filter smarter, not harder.  Most email filters out there these days 
have the concept of threads.  If you use procmail, check out the 
message IDs compared to References or In-Reply-To headers.  Subject 
lines aren't supposed to keep track of thread, that's what In-Reply-To 
is for.

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Re: Installation

2004-12-29 Thread Jonathan Opperman
On Wednesday 29 December 2004 11:00, YH wrote:
> Thanks Sam, your comments are indeed helpful. Both problems have been
> resolved.
>
> There is another problem of an error message when start x11:
>
> Sound Server information Message:
>
> Error while initializing the sound driver, device /dev/dsp can't be
> opened (Permission denied). The sound server will continue, using the
> null output device.
[..]

My first reply :), "vi /etc/group", assuming that you are logging in as 
yourself, give your username access to "audio".

Hope this helps :).

>
> How can I fix that problem?
>
> Thank you in advance.
>
> Yuja
>
> Sam Watkins wrote:
> > On Wed, Dec 29, 2004 at 12:54:37PM +1300, YH wrote:
> >>1. The displayed characters flicks on konsole of X11 screen. My monitor
> >>is a VE710B LCD and my video card is S3 Trio 3D/2X. I could not found
> >>the driver for the Trio 3D/2X video card during installation, so I
> >>selected S3virge driver. I am not sure that caused the problem or not,
> >>how can I resolve this problem? Where can I get S3 Trio 3D/2X driver?
> >
> > According to /usr/share/doc/xserver-xfree86/README.s3virge, this driver
> > supports the Trio3D/2x chip.  Possibly you have the refresh rate limits
> > set too high in /etc/X11/XF86Config-4.
> >
> >>2. The CDROM and Floppy are not defined in mtab, I suspect that the
> >>debian did not detect the hardware during the installation. I can edit
> >>mtab to add floppy and cdrom, but I don't know which device in /dev/
> >>linked to floppy and cdrom. Could you help please.
> >
> > mtab is a dynamic list of what devices / filesystems are actually
> > mounted at a particular time.  You don't normally edit it by hand.  The
> > table of filesystems is called /etc/fstab.  This is the one which should
> > have /floppy and /cdrom or whatever in it.
> >
> > If the floppy or cdrom aren't there, the floppy device is /dev/fd0, and
> > the cdrom device will probably be /dev/hdb, you can add them in:
> >
> > /dev/fd0 /floppy  auto defaults,user,noauto 0 0
> > /dev/hdb /cdrom  iso9660 defaults,ro,user,noauto 0 0
> >
> > People are mounting their stuff under /media/floppy, /media/cdrom these
> > days, you can do that if you like.

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Re: [OT] Big Open Roads (Was: Linux Functionality?)

2004-12-29 Thread Paul Johnson
On Tuesday 28 December 2004 05:23 pm, Steve Lamb wrote:
> Nate Duehr wrote:
> > Nothing like the exact same view for 8 or more hours of 
driving.   ;-)
> 
>  I-10 across the southwest.  *blink, blink*

I-10 has some pretty cool stuff along it, though.  But I guess you have 
to be in the right frame of mind to really go tooling around the 
southwest.


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Re: Installation

2004-12-29 Thread YH
Thanks Dani. At my user log in, I typed:
debian$ echo $USER
debian$ yuja
debian$ groups
debian$ yuja
Then I typed at root:
root$ adduser $USER audio
root$ you're done
Then I rebooted the machine and logged in again. The same error message 
still came. Anything I am missing here?

Thank you.
Yuja
Dani Belz wrote:
On Wed, Dec 29, 2004 at 10:00:15PM +1300, YH wrote:

There is another problem of an error message when start x11:
Sound Server information Message:
Error while initializing the sound driver, device /dev/dsp can't be 
opened (Permission denied). The sound server will continue, using the 
null output device.

How can I fix that problem?

Hi,
just check if your $USER is member of the group audio.
As user type
$ groups
If "audio" is not in the list do (as root):
$ adduser $USER audio
And you're done :)
grZ
Dani

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Re: [OT] crossing nebraska

2004-12-29 Thread Nate Duehr
Kirk Strauser wrote:
On Tuesday 28 December 2004 06:58 pm, Vineet Kumar wrote:
Finally, a topic I'm qualified to speak on (living in northeast Nebraska and 
all that).  I've never been on I-80 west of Lincoln - is it really *that* 
bad?  As a fairly new resident of the state I'm not too well acquainted with 
the south and west portions.
Let's put it this way -- it looks nice, but the view doesn't change much 
for many many miles after Lincoln.  Come on out to Denver sometime, and 
you'll see.  ;-)

There's supposedly been some Pioneer exhibit and bridge built somewhere 
out there on I-80 now -- at least that would break the monotony. 
Tourist trap though, I'm sure.  It was featured in the move "About 
Schmidt".

The real historical stuff out there is in cool museums out there in 
Central and Western Nebraska towns if you take the time to get off the 
Interstate and stop in and see them.

I-76 from the Nebraska border on into Denver isn't exactly anyone's idea 
of excitement either... anyone that I know of anyway.

I also used to do all this long before MP3's... but then again, I'm a 
fan of tuning around the dial on AM broadcast to see what's out there on 
the air when travelling through new places in the States.

Nate
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Re: Installation

2004-12-29 Thread Dani Belz
On Wed, Dec 29, 2004 at 10:28:40PM +1300, YH wrote:
> Thanks Dani. At my user log in, I typed:
> 
> debian$ echo $USER
> debian$ yuja
> 
> debian$ groups
> debian$ yuja
> 
> Then I typed at root:
> 
> root$ adduser $USER audio
> root$ you're done

you now added root to group audio! You have to

$ adduser yuja audio

:)

grZ
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Re: OT: the pain with crosslink cables

2004-12-29 Thread Nate Duehr
martin f krafft wrote:
I have one of those D-Link USB network interfaces, which are
wonderful. Plug it in, get a regular 10/100 Ethernet interface,
supported by Linux and working just fine. However, right now I am in
dire need to establish a link between two machines, and my beloved
ethernet cable will, of course, not do the trick, and a hub is
nowhere to be found. I used to have a crosslink cable too, but those
things tend to grow legs very quickly, and all of the ones I've ever
had always did.
With practice, you can make an Ethernet cross-over cable in ten seconds 
with a crimp tool and a spare piece of CAT 5 and two RJ45's.

The crimper (plastic cheap kind) can usually be found for about $6-$7, 
and the RJ45's -- well, I haven't run out of the box of 100 I bought ten 
years ago, and I've made a LOT of cables.  (Obviously not 50 of them.  Heh.)

Pairs made up of pins 1 & 2 and 3 & 6 swap places.  You can find the 
full color code online and "do it right", but if you swap those two pair 
correctly, 100-Base-T works fine.  Don't mess with pins 7 & 8 (put them 
in the same place) if you're doing any Power over Ethernet (you're 
probably not).

It's googleable, cheap, and reliable to just do it with your own tools 
and know-how.

The USB crap isn't going to run anywhere close to 100 Mb/s -- why bother 
with it?

By the way, an old trick -- make your crossover cables out of PINK Cat 5 
cable.  No male alpha-geek apparently wants to be caught dead with a 
PINK cable in their backpack of toys -- so they don't grow legs as fast. 
 LOL!  Mine tends to stay right where-ever I left it.

Nate
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Re: Installation

2004-12-29 Thread YH
Sorry Dani, my dumb. The error message has gone. Do I also need to add 
myself to video group (adduser yuja video) as I am installing xawtv 
right now?

BTW, speaking xawtv, I've just have an error during "make xawtv": 
"/usr/bin/ld cannot find -lXaw", but I can see 
/usr/X11/R6/lib/libxaw.so.7 on my machine. Does anyone know what I am 
missing?

Thank you Dani.
Yuja
Dani Belz wrote:
On Wed, Dec 29, 2004 at 10:28:40PM +1300, YH wrote:
Thanks Dani. At my user log in, I typed:
debian$ echo $USER
debian$ yuja
debian$ groups
debian$ yuja
Then I typed at root:
root$ adduser $USER audio
root$ you're done

you now added root to group audio! You have to
$ adduser yuja audio
:)
grZ
Dani

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Re: [Way off topic] depleted uranium

2004-12-29 Thread David Raleigh Arnold
On Tuesday 28 December 2004 08:28 pm, Sam Watkins wrote:
> On Mon, Dec 27, 2004 at 02:46:33PM -0800, Steve Lamb wrote:
> > >The worst "terrorist" is America, with your depleted uranium
> > >"dirty-bombs" which you throw around at every opportunity,

A dirty bomb is a nuclear device designed to kill by radiation
instead of blast.  Depleted uranium has no dangerous radiation.
That's why it's depleted.  Instead, it is extremely toxic.
People get sick on account of good ol' chemical poisoning, not
radiation.

Obvious ignorance does not help with what is your apparent
cause.  Know what you are talking about before you open your
yap.  daveA


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entering unicode chars

2004-12-29 Thread David Purton
Hi list,

Where do I configure entering of unicode characters in Gnome 2.8?

I don't even know what the technical term, but as in pressing a modifier
key, then the accent and then the letter.

i.e.,

'e => Ã

At the moment, some of them don't do the right thing:

e.g.,

-a => Ã

I would prefer if it went to Ä (a+macron), since ~a also
gives Ã.

It works for e: -e => Ä


Can anyone help?

cheers

dc


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Re: OT: the pain with crosslink cables

2004-12-29 Thread martin f krafft
also sprach Nate Duehr <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2004.12.29.1042 +0100]:
> With practice, you can make an Ethernet cross-over cable in ten seconds 
> with a crimp tool and a spare piece of CAT 5 and two RJ45's.

I know. I have made many of them already. But I'd prefer not to
carry around CAT 5, RJ45's, and the crimper.

> The USB crap isn't going to run anywhere close to 100 Mb/s -- why
> bother with it?

The USB "crap" runs perfectly fine and well above 100 Mb/s. It is
USB2 after all, which has a bandwidth of around 400 Mb/s. I bother
with it simply because USB tends to be available in most places, and
it's as plug and play as you can get these days.

> By the way, an old trick -- make your crossover cables out of PINK
> Cat 5 cable.  No male alpha-geek apparently wants to be caught
> dead with a PINK cable in their backpack of toys -- so they don't
> grow legs as fast. LOL!  Mine tends to stay right where-ever
> I left it.

hehe. Or make them with rainbow stripes. :)

Then again, I am sure there are quite a lot of people who just won't
care. My last 100 metres roll of CAT 5 was pink and I had no strange
looks so far, nor did I care.

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Re: OT: the pain with crosslink cables

2004-12-29 Thread martin f krafft
also sprach martin f krafft <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2004.12.29.0700 +0100]:
> Also, not every machine (I work with) has USB.

Ha, what a dork I am. No USB dongle-ethernet combo will be of much
use then.

I guess the IP-over-USB idea is not a bad one. However, I have never
set it up, so I do not know if it's possible to link the various
operating systems with it. I could imagine that Linux supports it
out of the box. However, does Windows, and does OS X and the BSDs?

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[SOLVED] Re: permissions with udev/pmount?

2004-12-29 Thread Nicolas de Sereville
Hi,
Thank you to H.S. and Andrea! It is now working. The point is that while 
trying to understand my problem I erased me from the "hal" group. After 
adding me back to this group, everything is working smooth ;-) When I 
plug in my stick, my archos or my camera the icon is automatically 
appearing on the desktop.

Here are some informations of my configuration if it can help somebody else:
1) I belong to the "plugdev" and "hal" group
2) I have installed:
dpkg -l hal '*dbus*' 'gnome-vol*' hotplug pmount | grep ^ii
ii  hal0.4.2-5Hardware Abstraction Layer
ii  dbus-1 0.22-3 simple interprocess messaging system
ii  dbus-glib-10.22-3 simple interprocess messaging system 
(GLib-b
ii  python2.3-dbus 0.22-3 simple interprocess messaging system 
(Python
ii  gnome-volume-m 1.1.2-5GNOME daemon to auto-mount and manage 
media
ii  hotplug0.0.20040329-1 Linux Hotplug Scripts
ii  pmount 0.4.4-1mount removable devices as normal user

3) In gnome-volume-properties, I set the three following options:
"Mount removable drives when hot plugged"
"Mount removable media when inserted"
"Browse removable media when inserted"
4) udev rule for my camera:
BUS="scsi", KERNEL="sd*", SYSFS{vendor}="PENTAX  ", 
SYSFS{model}="DIGITAL_CAMERA  ", NAME="gyp-ca-%k", 
SYMLINK="gyp-ca-usb%n", MODE="0660", GROUP="hal"

5) /etc/fstab line for my camera
/dev/gyp-ca-usb1/media/camara   autorw,user,noauto,sync 
0  0

6) /media/camera has been created before by hand
Thanks again for your useful help!
Nico
H. S. wrote:
Apparently, _Nicolas de Sereville_, on 28/12/04 08:33,typed:
I installed the kernel 2.6.9 through "apt-get install 
kernel-image-2.6.9-1-k7", but nothing is changing. When I plug in my 
stick and camera, the devices nodes are created in /dev but the 
devices are not mounted, neither as a user nor as root (which used to 
work a few days ago!). I don't remember having changed anything apart 
from upgrading the system.

The versions of some packages are given here:
ii  dbus-1 0.22-3 simple interprocess messaging system
ii  udev   0.050-2/dev/ management daemon
ii  hotplug0.0.20040329-1 Linux Hotplug Scripts
ii  hal0.4.2-5Hardware Abstraction Layer
ii  gnome-volume-m 1.1.2-5GNOME daemon to auto-mount and 
manage media

Reading the man pages of pmount it seems that a few conditions should 
be verified, which I think is the case:
The mount will succeed if all of the following conditions are met:

-  is a block device in /dev/
-  is not handled by /etc/fstab (if it is, pmount calls
 '/bin/mount ' to handle this transparently; supplying a 
label is not
 allowed in this case)
-  is not already mounted according to /etc/mtab and 
/proc/mounts
- if the mount point already exists, there is no device already 
mounted at it
 and the directory is empty
-  is removable (i. e. on USB or FireWire bus, or
 /sys/block/drive/removable == 1)
-  is not locked (see below)

However when I use pmount in a terminal as a normal user ("pmount"), 
it tells me:
zsh: permission denied: pmount.

Can someone having udev/hal/hotplug/gnome-volume-manager running 
check the permission of the pmount file. I have:
-rwSr--r--  1 root plugdev 22K 2004-12-16 19:24 /usr/bin/pmount

I tried to make executable this file for everybody and then I can 
pmount manually the device (pmount /dev/gyp-cl-usb /stick) but it 
doesn't work automatically when I insert my stick.

Well as you can see I am stuck, so any ideas are welcomed!
Nico


Hi,
Sorry I couldn't reply earlier, been a but visiting people over the 
holidyas :)

Regarding your USB icon problem, I would suggest you check
1) You are 'hal' and 'plugdev' group member.
2) you have installed:
$> COLUMMNS=150 dpkg -l hal *dbus* gnome-vol* hotplug pmount | grep ^ii
ii  hal0.4.2-2Hardware Abstraction Layer
ii  dbus-1 0.22-3 simple interprocess messaging system
ii  dbus-glib-10.22-3 simple interprocess messaging system 
(GLib-b
ii  python2.3-dbus 0.22-3 simple interprocess messaging system 
(Python
ii  gnome-volume-m 1.1.2-4GNOME daemon to auto-mount and 
manage media
ii  hotplug0.0.20040329-1 Linux Hotplug Scripts
ii  pmount 0.4.3-1mount removable devices as normal user

3) that log messages appear in /var/log/syslog since the time you plug 
in the USB stick till you plug it out. Why don't you list them here?

4) that you have options set to mount removable devices when plugged 
in or inserted:
$> gnome-volume-properties

Other than that, I guess there is a bug at present in pmount which 
will delete your mount pont in /media when you unplug your USB stick. 
There is a bug report about this. It is #286936 in http://debian.org/Bugs

GL,
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Backups - what files can safely be omitted?

2004-12-29 Thread Robert S
Thanks for the folks who advised me re backing up a running system.  I'm 
just testing mondo at the moment.  Looks ideal for my purposes.

What files can safely be omitted from a debian system backup?  Obvious ones 
are /var/cache/apt/archives (if you're like me an hold onto these files) and 
/var/spool/squid (if you use squid).  Is there anything crucial in /var/log 
that can't be trashed?  Is there anything else in /var?

TIA. 




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Re: Wayward syslog items

2004-12-29 Thread David Baron
On Wednesday 29 December 2004 11:18, 
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> > My syslog has failed items for pppd and chat. Just fine since I have
> > no pppd connection and no chat. Question is why I am getting this? I
> > did not see anything appropriate in /etc/init.d.
>
> Strangely enough I have the same thing happening!  In my case I think
> it's the /etc/init.d/ppp script, and I had an /etc/ppp/ppp_on_boot file.
> Possibly your ppp is starting for a different reason.  Try:

Got it also. If I do not use this /etc/init.d/ppp script, where is my ADSL 
started. Will pppd call provider (this has my particulars) start it up 
without the extra stuff?



You don't have enough free space in /var/cache/apt/archives/

2004-12-29 Thread Aditya Pratap




Hi,

I am getting this message when I try to upgrade KDE using apt-get
install -

You don't have enough free space in /var/cache/apt/archives/.

Is it ok if I delete the files in this directory? Or is there any other
way out.

Thanking in advance,
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Re: You don't have enough free space in /var/cache/apt/archives/

2004-12-29 Thread David Purton
On Wed, Dec 29, 2004 at 05:14:59PM +0530, Aditya Pratap wrote:
> Hi,
> I am getting this message when I try to upgrade KDE using apt-get install -
> You don't have enough free space in /var/cache/apt/archives/.
> Is it ok if I delete the files in this directory? Or is there any other 
> way out.

It is ok to delete these files - there are a couple of ways to do it
"the debian way":

apt-get clean - this will delete all packages
apt-get autoclean - this will delete all packages not currently installed

cheers

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Re: You don't have enough free space in /var/cache/apt/archives/

2004-12-29 Thread Andrea Vettorello
On Wed, 29 Dec 2004 17:14:59 +0530, Aditya Pratap
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>  Hi, 
>  I am getting this message when I try to upgrade KDE using apt-get install -
>  You don't have enough free space in /var/cache/apt/archives/. 
>  Is it ok if I delete the files in this directory? Or is there any other way
> out. 

If you have another partition or disk with more space, create a new
temporary cache dir and pass it to apt-get with something like
'apt-get -o dir::cache::archives="/tmp/foo" install
your_package_name". It should bark about missing a file or directory,
"touch" it and you are done...

You should find the details on the apt documentation, look for "clean"
or "autoclean" to delete packages.


Andrea

P.S. if you have yet downloaded some packages in your
/var/cache/archive you can copy them in the new dir, dont recall if
you can give to apt two or more dir as cache archive...


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Re: [OT] crossing nebraska

2004-12-29 Thread Ed Curtis

 Yes, it is really that bad. The trip between I-80 and I-70 down 383 is
much worse though. I have driven from N. Indiana to Colo. Springs twice
now.

On Tue, 28 Dec 2004, Kirk Strauser wrote:

> On Tuesday 28 December 2004 06:58 pm, Vineet Kumar wrote:
>
> Finally, a topic I'm qualified to speak on (living in northeast Nebraska and
> all that).  I've never been on I-80 west of Lincoln - is it really *that*
> bad?  As a fairly new resident of the state I'm not too well acquainted with
> the south and west portions.
>
> > SWA #2062 crosses over its length in about an hour on the way from MDW
> > to OAK =)
>
> Smartass.  :-)
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Re: 2 GB RAM support in woody

2004-12-29 Thread Alexei Chetroi
On Tue, Dec 28, 2004 at 09:10:52PM -0800, saravanan ganapathy wrote:
> Date: Tue, 28 Dec 2004 21:10:52 -0800 (PST)
> From: saravanan ganapathy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: Adam Aube <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, debian-user@lists.debian.org
> Subject: Re: 2 GB RAM support in woody
> 
> My arch is 686 only. 686-smp testing version only
> supports highmem support. I 've installed
> kernel-image-2.4.18-smp (stable) which doesn't support
> highmem support
> 
 1st of all, pls don't top post.

 2nd, if you want to use kernel that comes with stable, install package
kernel-source-2.4.18 and recompile it with highmem enabled. I wouln't
recommend package from kernel.org as Debian kernel include some patches
and security back-ports. Otherwise you have to stay on latest kernel (if
you don't want local kernel exploits) and recompile everytime new kernel
gets out.


> --- Adam Aube <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> > saravanan ganapathy wrote:
> > 
> > >   I installed woody on my dual processor,2 GB RAM
> > > server. I have enabled smp support by installing
> > > kernel-image-2.4.18-smp. Now it shows dual
> > processor.
> > > But the os detects my RAM as 900 MB only. How do I
> > > enable the os to detect actual RAM(2 GB)?
> > 
> > Which architecture? IIRC, the 686 and 686-smp
> > kernels have HIMEM support
> > compiled in.
> > 
> > Adam
> > 
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Courier-imap Mysql 4.x

2004-12-29 Thread Guilherme B. Viebig



Hi all,
 
Merry Christmas and a happy new 
year... 
 
I´m using sarge, and my courier-imap don´t work 
with Mysql 4.x, but, perfectly with 3.x
 
I need to know if there is a way to use mysql 
3.23.xx in my sarge, or a updated courier-imap that supports mysql 
4.x.
 
Thank you in advance...
 
 
Guilherme B. Viebig
São Paulo, Brazil
 
 


Re: OT: Ubuntu.org

2004-12-29 Thread Glenn English
Hey, will you ununto/god/God guys please cut it out. This list has so
much traffic already I can barely scan it as fast as it comes in. I've
got to get breakfast sometime this morning...

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Re: Courier-imap Mysql 4.x

2004-12-29 Thread Darryl Clarke
On Wed, 29 Dec 2004 10:11:22 -0300, Guilherme B. Viebig
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>  
> Hi all, 
>   
> Merry Christmas and a happy new year...  
>   
> I´m using sarge, and my courier-imap don´t work with Mysql 4.x, but,
> perfectly with 3.x 
>   
> I need to know if there is a way to use mysql 3.23.xx in my sarge, or a
> updated courier-imap that supports mysql 4.x. 
>   
> Thank you in advance... 

What types of problems are you having?

I use courier-imap  3.0.8-3 with courier-authmysql 0.47-3 and
courier-authdaemon  0.47-3  to authenticate virtual users
using mysql-server 4.0.22-2  (as well as client and libraries)...


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Re: [SOLVED] Re: permissions with udev/pmount?

2004-12-29 Thread Andrea Vettorello
On Wed, 29 Dec 2004 11:05:11 +0100, Nicolas de Sereville
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> Thank you to H.S. and Andrea! It is now working. The point is that while
> trying to understand my problem I erased me from the "hal" group. After
> adding me back to this group, everything is working smooth ;-) When I
> plug in my stick, my archos or my camera the icon is automatically
> appearing on the desktop.
> 
> Here are some informations of my configuration if it can help somebody else:
> 1) I belong to the "plugdev" and "hal" group
> 
> 2) I have installed:
> dpkg -l hal '*dbus*' 'gnome-vol*' hotplug pmount | grep ^ii
> ii  hal0.4.2-5Hardware Abstraction Layer
> ii  dbus-1 0.22-3 simple interprocess messaging system
> ii  dbus-glib-10.22-3 simple interprocess messaging system
> (GLib-b
> ii  python2.3-dbus 0.22-3 simple interprocess messaging system
> (Python
> ii  gnome-volume-m 1.1.2-5GNOME daemon to auto-mount and manage
> media
> ii  hotplug0.0.20040329-1 Linux Hotplug Scripts
> ii  pmount 0.4.4-1mount removable devices as normal user
> 
> 3) In gnome-volume-properties, I set the three following options:
> "Mount removable drives when hot plugged"
> "Mount removable media when inserted"
> "Browse removable media when inserted"
> 
> 4) udev rule for my camera:
> BUS="scsi", KERNEL="sd*", SYSFS{vendor}="PENTAX  ",
> SYSFS{model}="DIGITAL_CAMERA  ", NAME="gyp-ca-%k",
> SYMLINK="gyp-ca-usb%n", MODE="0660", GROUP="hal"
> 
> 5) /etc/fstab line for my camera
> /dev/gyp-ca-usb1/media/camara   autorw,user,noauto,sync
> 0  0
> 
> 6) /media/camera has been created before by hand
> 
> Thanks again for your useful help!
> Nico
> 

There's a typo in your /etc/fstab (/media/camara instead of
/media/camera), and i'm not sure you need to be in the hal group to
get gnome-volume-manager working...


Andrea


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Re: You don't have enough free space in /var/cache/apt/archives/

2004-12-29 Thread Roberto Sanchez
Aditya Pratap wrote:
Hi,
I am getting this message when I try to upgrade KDE using apt-get install -
You don't have enough free space in /var/cache/apt/archives/.
Is it ok if I delete the files in this directory? Or is there any other
way out.
Thanking in advance,
You are just storing previously downloaded versions of your packages.
Personally, I run apt-proxy for all my machines, so I always "apt-get
clean" after installing a package.  If you don't run a proxy or have
a slow connection, you may want to consider using "apt-get autoclean"
which will leave only downloaded packages which are still available
in the archives, i.e., packages that you can still install.
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Re: entering unicode chars

2004-12-29 Thread Nicos Gollan
On Wednesday December 29 2004 10:56, David Purton wrote:
> I don't even know what the technical term, but as in pressing a modifier
> key, then the accent and then the letter.

It's not a solution to your exact problem, but the correct term for the 
modifier key is "compose key". This might help you to find answers.

The default sequence for Ä on a german layout seems to be " -~ 
a". You can grep the files in /etc/X11/xkb for "macron" (grep 
-r /etc/X11/xkb/*) to see what key is assigned to this accent in your layout.

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Re: Backups - what files can safely be omitted?

2004-12-29 Thread Roberto Sanchez
Robert S wrote:
Thanks for the folks who advised me re backing up a running system.  I'm
just testing mondo at the moment.  Looks ideal for my purposes.
What files can safely be omitted from a debian system backup?  Obvious ones
are /var/cache/apt/archives (if you're like me an hold onto these files) and
/var/spool/squid (if you use squid).  Is there anything crucial in /var/log
that can't be trashed?  Is there anything else in /var?
It all depends on how much time you want to invest into restoring your
system in the event of a failure.  Linus Torvalds says "Real men don't
backup.  They upload everything to FTP and let the rest of the world
mirror it."
That being said, I use two different schemes.  For my server I create
a systemimager backup.  If something goes south on me, I can boot it
from the backup image and have it restored in the time it takes to
transfer the information across the network.  I also create a daily
tar of the systemimager image and keep a couple of weeks worth.  This
way I can revert to a previous state, if necesary.
For my workstation I simply create a tar of /etc /home and /root and
of "dpkg-get --get-selections".  If something goes wrong, I reinstall
with my previously selected packages, untar /etc /home and /root and
then I am ready to go.  This method takes longer, but is much more space
efficient.  I don't personally back up anything /var on my workstation,
but if you run a website, then /var/www and if you run databases or
store email then /var/lib and /var/mail, respectively.
HTH,
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Re: 2 GB RAM support in woody

2004-12-29 Thread saravanan ganapathy
--- Alexei Chetroi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:

> On Tue, Dec 28, 2004 at 09:10:52PM -0800, saravanan
> ganapathy wrote:
> > Date: Tue, 28 Dec 2004 21:10:52 -0800 (PST)
> > From: saravanan ganapathy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: Adam Aube <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> debian-user@lists.debian.org
> > Subject: Re: 2 GB RAM support in woody
> > 
> > My arch is 686 only. 686-smp testing version only
> > supports highmem support. I 've installed
> > kernel-image-2.4.18-smp (stable) which doesn't
> support
> > highmem support
> > 
>  1st of all, pls don't top post.
> 
>  2nd, if you want to use kernel that comes with
> stable, install package
> kernel-source-2.4.18 and recompile it with highmem
> enabled. I wouln't
> recommend package from kernel.org as Debian kernel
> include some patches
> and security back-ports. Otherwise you have to stay
> on latest kernel (if
> you don't want local kernel exploits) and recompile
> everytime new kernel
> gets out.

The latest kernel version in kernel.org for 2.4.x
series is 2.4.28. But the debian stable kernel version
is 2.4.18. 

Is there any lack in this?

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Re: [Way off topic] depleted uranium

2004-12-29 Thread Brendan
On Tuesday 28 December 2004 22:47, Ron Johnson wrote:
> What's as effective as DU at piercing modern armor?

This was my question as well. I mean, DU is so damn heavy, and that's what 
makes it amazing.


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script help

2004-12-29 Thread Bob Alexander
I keep a few different kernel source trees under /usr/src and each of 
them has a different .config file.

Part of my pre-backup script I would like to run a command such as
find /usr/src -name .config
for example:
/usr/src/kernel-source-2.6.9-rja/.config
/usr/src/linux-2.6.10-rja/.config
and for every match write a file to my /backup_data directory with a 
filename that is made up like "kernel-source-2.6.9-rja.config" and 
"linux-2.6.10-rja.config" or some similar unique filename which relates 
the the kernel tree.

Thank you for any help,
Bob
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Re: entering unicode chars

2004-12-29 Thread Alexander Mikhailian
David Purton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Where do I configure entering of unicode characters in Gnome 2.8?

This is called "dead keys" and is a feature of X-Window. Gnome has nothing to
do with them.  Do _locate Compose_, choose the Compose file for your locale,
edit it as you feel it and restart the X to enable the changes.

P.S. Compose in /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/locale/en_US.UTF-8/Compose
has room for improvement, AFAIR. 

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Re: Multiple installed kernel-image packages?

2004-12-29 Thread Kevin B. McCarty
Hi Paul,

Paul Gear wrote:

> Thanks for the detailed response. Are you saying that once my system
> is installed (on 2.6.8, as it happens), it will never get an upgrade
> to 2.6.9 (once it is released) unless i explicitly install it? Does
> the fact that i asked for kernel-image-2.6-686 have any bearing on
> the situation? I thought this always pointed to the latest released
> 2.6 kernel image.

Ah, that was a complication that I wasn't sure whether or not to bring
up.  Yes, kernel-image-2.6-686 is a metapackage [1] that always depends
on the latest kernel version, so if you have it installed, running an
"apt-get dist-upgrade" (not just "upgrade") will see to it that you have
the latest 2.6 kernel-image package installed.  I believe (but haven't
verified) that if you use aptitude for upgrades instead of apt-get, your
old kernel images will then be uninstalled automatically, too.

[1] "metapackage" means an empty package whose only purpose is to depend
upon other package(s), making it easier to install them.

> I'm happy with removing the old ones myself. The only drama with the
> way you explain it is: how do i know when 2.6.9 is released except by
> checking for it manually every day/week/whatever?

Well, other than having it done automatically by having the
kernel-image-2.6-686 metapackage installed, you can for instance glance
at the list of "new packages" in the aptitude UI.

>> However there are often several Debian revisions of each kernel 
>> version; so "apt-get upgrade" WILL upgrade you from Debian release 
>> 2.6.8-6 to 2.6.8-7.  Needless to say, you CANNOT install two Debian 
>> releases of the same kernel version at the same time.
> 
> Presumably these Debian revisions are only released to fix security
> problems or other major bugs?

For kernels in stable, that's right.  For kernels in unstable and
testing, they may go through several iterations of adding new
out-of-tree drivers and other niceties in order to make them suitable
for release in the next version of stable.  Right now the plan is to
release 2.6.8 with sarge, so a lot of effort is being concentrated on
that, with a bit less on 2.6.9 (for people who intend to keep running
sid).  Presumably work on 2.6.9 will soon be moved to 2.6.10.

>> ... Running "grep-available -FProvides -sPackage kernel-image" will
>> give you a list of kernel packages known to APT on your architecture.
>> (The grep-available command is in the grep-dctrl package.)
> 
> How is that different from what apt-cache search --names-only
> kernel-image shows me?

The latter shows every package with "kernel-image" in the name; the
former only shows packages that explicitly claim to provide a
kernel-image.  There isn't much difference, except that your command
shows the "latest kernel image" metapackages and the one I posted
doesn't.  As usual in Linux there's more than one way to skin a cat.

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Re: script help

2004-12-29 Thread Joris Huizer
Bob Alexander wrote:
I keep a few different kernel source trees under /usr/src and each of 
them has a different .config file.

Part of my pre-backup script I would like to run a command such as
find /usr/src -name .config
for example:
/usr/src/kernel-source-2.6.9-rja/.config
/usr/src/linux-2.6.10-rja/.config
and for every match write a file to my /backup_data directory with a 
filename that is made up like "kernel-source-2.6.9-rja.config" and 
"linux-2.6.10-rja.config" or some similar unique filename which relates 
the the kernel tree.

Thank you for any help,
Bob

(using bash:)
for i in *
do
  if [ -d $i ]
  then
if [ -f $i/.config ]
  then
  echo cp $i/.config /backup_data/$i.config
fi
  fi
done
If this prints the correct lines, remove echo in front of the cp and run 
again ;)

HTH,
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Re: script help

2004-12-29 Thread Darryl Clarke
On Wed, 29 Dec 2004 15:26:17 +0100, Bob Alexander <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I keep a few different kernel source trees under /usr/src and each of
> them has a different .config file.
> 
> Part of my pre-backup script I would like to run a command such as
> 
> find /usr/src -name .config
> 
> for example:
> 
> /usr/src/kernel-source-2.6.9-rja/.config
> /usr/src/linux-2.6.10-rja/.config
> 
> and for every match write a file to my /backup_data directory with a
> filename that is made up like "kernel-source-2.6.9-rja.config" and
> "linux-2.6.10-rja.config" or some similar unique filename which relates
> the the kernel tree.

With 'find' you can -exec on each result.

For example (note the trailing \; is required to end the exec string.
find will execute all commands until that is found.):

find /usr/src -name ".config" -exec cp {} /backup_data{} \;

{}  will be expanded to the entire path of the found file. The above
line won't work because cp won't create the entire path
"/backup_data/usr/src/kernel-source-2.6.9-rja/.config" :) You might
want to process {} to create a proper destination.

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Re: [Way off topic] the politics of ubuntu.org

2004-12-29 Thread Alex Malinovich
On Wed, 2004-12-29 at 08:49 +0100, Pascal Bonesh wrote:
--snip--
> What a wonderful world it would be if all people would just throw away
> their holy books and start thinking and acting as humans.

Bravo! I second that wholeheartedly!

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Re: [Way off topic] the Quran

2004-12-29 Thread Alex Malinovich
On Wed, 2004-12-29 at 12:08 +0800, Katipo wrote:
--snip--
> Take the time to sit down and watch a sunset sometime, then chuck the 
> book away.
> Regards,

Amen to that! :)

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Re: 2 GB RAM support in woody

2004-12-29 Thread Alexei Chetroi
On Wed, Dec 29, 2004 at 05:59:47AM -0800, saravanan ganapathy wrote:
> Date: Wed, 29 Dec 2004 05:59:47 -0800 (PST)
> From: saravanan ganapathy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: Alexei Chetroi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Cc: debian-user@lists.debian.org
> Subject: Re: 2 GB RAM support in woody
> 
> --- Alexei Chetroi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> 
> > On Tue, Dec 28, 2004 at 09:10:52PM -0800, saravanan
> > ganapathy wrote:
> > > Date: Tue, 28 Dec 2004 21:10:52 -0800 (PST)
> > > From: saravanan ganapathy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > To: Adam Aube <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> > debian-user@lists.debian.org
> > > Subject: Re: 2 GB RAM support in woody
> > > 
> > > My arch is 686 only. 686-smp testing version only
> > > supports highmem support. I 've installed
> > > kernel-image-2.4.18-smp (stable) which doesn't
> > support
> > > highmem support
> > > 
> >  1st of all, pls don't top post.
> > 
> >  2nd, if you want to use kernel that comes with
> > stable, install package
> > kernel-source-2.4.18 and recompile it with highmem
> > enabled. I wouln't
> > recommend package from kernel.org as Debian kernel
> > include some patches
> > and security back-ports. Otherwise you have to stay
> > on latest kernel (if
> > you don't want local kernel exploits) and recompile
> > everytime new kernel
> > gets out.
> 
> The latest kernel version in kernel.org for 2.4.x
> series is 2.4.28. But the debian stable kernel version
> is 2.4.18. 
  
  The latest kernel on kernel.org is 2.4.28 indeed. The debian stable
choosed kernel 2.4.18 as kernel for woody release. So debian's kernel
2.4.18 includes security patches for exploits found in kernels 2.4.19,
.20, etc.

  Kernel 2.4.18 does support highmem, but debian's package is compiled
without highmem support. So you have two options:

1st.
Recompile debian's 2.4.18 kernel with highmem support, keep eye on
debian-security-announce list and whenever kernel 2.4.18 gets updated
recompile it.

2nd.
use latest kernel from kernel.org compiled with highmem support and 
recompile it whenever security hole is discovered.


> 
> Is there any lack in this?

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Re: Exim4 config help request

2004-12-29 Thread Ishwar Rattan


On Tue, 28 Dec 2004, Benjamin A'Lee wrote:

> On Tue, Dec 28, 2004 at 05:31:59PM -0500 or thereabouts, Ishwar Rattan wrote:
> > I just installed ProMepis and it installs by default exim4
> > SMTP service. I am looking for a simple working configuration for
> > exim4 (I have been using Sendmail and have tried Postfix too!).
> >
> > Requirements is that it should send to and receive from remote
> > domains (office box connected to Internet via LAN). The error
> > message sent back by exim is:
> >
> >   ...
> >   Mailing to remote domains is not supported
> >
> > in fact, it does not send to another machine in the same domain!
> >
> > Any pointers will be appreciated.
> >
> > -ishwar
> >
> >
>
> You've got the exim4-daemon-light package, which only does local
> deliveries.  You need to remove that and install exim4-daemon-heavy,
> which does remote deliveries too.  apt-get install exim4-daemon-heavy
> should work, I think (I use aptitude, it's easy :).
I did
apt-get install exim4-daemon-heavy
(it removed exim4-daemon-light), stopped exim4 and restarted it. The
behavior from light version does not changed. I still see the same
message:
Mailing to remote domains is not supported

-ishwar

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Re: PVR recomendations?

2004-12-29 Thread Brendan
On Tuesday 28 December 2004 15:42, Curt Howland wrote:
> I prefer AMD and "open" drivers (sorry, nVidia), can someone suggest a

So, the 'nv' driver is not included with distributions anymore, or is this 
going to be 3D TV from the future? 2D TV is just fine...

Starting out with such a righteous bias and lack of knowledge means you won't 
be looking into every option, so you can be assured of not getting every 
option out there. 

There are a million sites out there with recommendations. Five seconds on 
Google reveals:
http://www.mythtv.org/docs/mythtv-HOWTO-3.html#ss3.1


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Re: 2 GB RAM support in woody

2004-12-29 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Alexei Chetroi wrote:
On Wed, Dec 29, 2004 at 05:59:47AM -0800, saravanan ganapathy wrote:
 

Date: Wed, 29 Dec 2004 05:59:47 -0800 (PST)
From: saravanan ganapathy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: Alexei Chetroi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: 2 GB RAM support in woody
   

...

 
 The latest kernel on kernel.org is 2.4.28 indeed. The debian stable
choosed kernel 2.4.18 as kernel for woody release. So debian's kernel
2.4.18 includes security patches for exploits found in kernels 2.4.19,
.20, etc.

 Kernel 2.4.18 does support highmem, but debian's package is compiled
without highmem support. So you have two options:
1st.
Recompile debian's 2.4.18 kernel with highmem support, keep eye on
debian-security-announce list and whenever kernel 2.4.18 gets updated
recompile it.
2nd.
use latest kernel from kernel.org compiled with highmem support and 
recompile it whenever security hole is discovered.

 

Is there any lack in this?
   

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if your sources.list in /etc/apt/ are "correct" you can also install a 
debian package from Sarge or Sid 2.4.27 and 2.6.9.

I think it's the best way.
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netenv boot popup

2004-12-29 Thread Leonard Chatagnier
Can someone point me to the source that explains how to remove the 
Network Environment Setup popup  that comes up on boot.  The onboard 
documentation doesn't say how.

Plz copy [EMAIL PROTECTED] as I'm not subscribed
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Re: Sarge box not rebooting..

2004-12-29 Thread Robert Waldner

On Tue, 28 Dec 2004 18:30:27 +0100, Robert Waldner writes:
>>No, kill(-1, SIGWHATEVER) is guaranteed to kill all processes
>>/except/ the caller. "man 2 kill" on any unix/linux box. What kernel
>>are you using, this might be a kernel bug. Is this an i386 or
>>another architecture ?

>2.4.27, from kernel-image-2.4.27-1-386, i386 arch, straight Sarge
> from d-i RC2, `apt-get upgrade` up-to-date as of now.

>I've put more info (`dpkg -l`, `ps auxwww`, cpuinfo, meminfo, lsmod) at
> http://www.waldner.priv.at/temp/machine.txt (it'd make for one long
> email otherwise).

I've now tested through a couple kernel-images, and found that the 
 problem does NOT manifest itself when it's an SMP-kernel, eg 
 2.4.26-1-686-smp and 2.4.27-1-686-smp are fine, but the default 
 2.4.26/7-1-386 and their respective -686 siblings aren't.

What remains is the question if I should file this as a (grave?) bug 
 against kernel-image-2.4.27-1-386.

And, for people googling this up later: DO NOT run the standard Sarge 
 kernel 2.4.27-1-386 on HP/Compaq DL380 machines, you won't be able to 
 reboot/shutdown them.

cheers,
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Re: [OT] crossing nebraska

2004-12-29 Thread Kirk Strauser
On Wednesday 29 December 2004 03:30, Nate Duehr wrote:

> Let's put it this way -- it looks nice, but the view doesn't change much
> for many many miles after Lincoln.  Come on out to Denver sometime, and
> you'll see.  ;-)

I plan to next summer.  Nothing but fresh air, open skies, and three 
screaming kids and a fed-up wife in a minivan for hours and hours.  Ahh, 
vacation...

> There's supposedly been some Pioneer exhibit and bridge built somewhere
> out there on I-80 now -- at least that would break the monotony.
> Tourist trap though, I'm sure.

Can't be any worse than the "Wall Drug" and "Corn Palace" signs on I-90 for 
about 400 miles in either direction.  :-)

> I-76 from the Nebraska border on into Denver isn't exactly anyone's idea
> of excitement either... anyone that I know of anyway.

I wondered about it.  Is it at least a little rugger?  I don't know much 
about Colorado's topography (I was 4 years old when I last approached 
Denver from the east).

> I also used to do all this long before MP3's... but then again, I'm a
> fan of tuning around the dial on AM broadcast to see what's out there on
> the air when travelling through new places in the States.

I still do that.  I always think it's neat to find out that I'm picking up a 
station from Fargo, or Rapid City, or Chicago.
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Re: [OT] crossing nebraska

2004-12-29 Thread Kirk Strauser
On Tuesday 28 December 2004 20:26, dorn hetzel wrote:

> No, it's quite nice actually.  My wife is from Omaha and we were out
> in NE over thanksgiving (drove out from Atlanta).

I live about 100 miles northwest of Omaha.  We're still far enough east to 
be in the Missouri River valley terrain instead of the open plains.

> My favorite parts of Nebraska are way out west around Alliance.  I
> can't explain why, it's just got a real good feel to it.  We spent
> a whole week or so of family vacation one year just driving around
> western Nebraska and southwest South Dakota (Rushmore and all that).

We drove up to South Dakota and across to Rapid City, Mt. Rushmore, and the 
Badlands over the summer.  That was some of the most beautiful country I've 
ever seen.
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Re: [OT] Big Open Roads (Was: Linux Functionality?)

2004-12-29 Thread Kirk Strauser
On Wednesday 29 December 2004 03:23, Paul Johnson wrote:

> I-10 has some pretty cool stuff along it, though.  But I guess you have
> to be in the right frame of mind to really go tooling around the
> southwest.

I lived in Springfield, Missouri when I enlisted in the Navy.  I did my 
basic training in Chicago, then got transferred to a school in San Diego.  
I drove from Chicago to Springfield, spent a couple of weeks, then spent 
three days driving from Springfield to Dallas to College Station, TX to 
visit a friend, then San Diego.  I personally thought the drive was 
breathtaking (although admittedly pretty boring in parts), since the 
landscape was completely and utterely different than what I'd grown up with 
at the edge of the Ozark Mountains.
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kernel panic on recompiled kernel

2004-12-29 Thread Eric Persson
Hi,
I've been trying to recompile my kernel to a 2.6.8 one on debian sarge. 
But no matter what I do it seems to get kernel panic when I try to boot.
See the message at
http://www.persson.tm/debian_install/debian_boot_2.6.8.gif

hda3 is the debianpartition mounted / with ext3 on it. I found a bunch 
of people with similar problems at http://kerneltrap.org/node/2318 and 
tried a few of the solutions, but none of the seem to work for me.

I have put my config file at
http://www.persson.tm/debian_install/config-2.6.8 for reading, I also 
added a dmesg from the working 2.4.27 kernel at 
http://www.persson.tm/debian_install/dmesg

I also put a list of my fstab and fdisk -l /dev/hda at
http://www.persson.tm/debian_install/debian_fstab.gif
I'm not sure how to go on with this, I really would like to get debian 
running on my laptop. :) And hopefully I can get some help with this, 
dont hesitate to ask for more info. :)
The reason I run it through vmware is that I got sick of all the 
rebooting when trying kernels, so now I can do real work while its 
compiling and booting. I havent noticed some sideeffects of this, but 
its not how I plan to use debian. So the dmesg might look a bit strange, 
but thats vmwarish. :)

Thanks for any input!
Eric
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Re: 2 GB RAM support in woody

2004-12-29 Thread saravanan ganapathy
> > > 
> > >  2nd, if you want to use kernel that comes with
> > > stable, install package
> > > kernel-source-2.4.18 and recompile it with
> highmem
> > > enabled. I wouln't
> > > recommend package from kernel.org as Debian
> kernel
> > > include some patches
> > > and security back-ports. Otherwise you have to
> stay
> > > on latest kernel (if
> > > you don't want local kernel exploits) and
> recompile
> > > everytime new kernel
> > > gets out.
> > 
> > The latest kernel version in kernel.org for 2.4.x
> > series is 2.4.28. But the debian stable kernel
> version
> > is 2.4.18. 
>   
>   The latest kernel on kernel.org is 2.4.28 indeed.
> The debian stable
> choosed kernel 2.4.18 as kernel for woody release.
> So debian's kernel
> 2.4.18 includes security patches for exploits found
> in kernels 2.4.19,
> .20, etc.
> 
>   Kernel 2.4.18 does support highmem, but debian's
> package is compiled
> without highmem support. So you have two options:
> 
> 1st.
> Recompile debian's 2.4.18 kernel with highmem
> support, keep eye on
> debian-security-announce list and whenever kernel
> 2.4.18 gets updated
> recompile it.
> 
> 2nd.
> use latest kernel from kernel.org compiled with
> highmem support and 
> recompile it whenever security hole is discovered.
> 
> 
> > 
> > Is there any lack in this?
> 
> --
> Alexei Chetroi
> 

I have done recompile using kernel-source-2.4.18 and
after reboot I got the following error

EXT3-fs: mounted filesystem with ordered data mode
VFS: Mounted root (ext3 filesystem) readonly
Freeing unused kernel memory: 288k freed
kernel panic no init found , try passing init= option
to kernel

How to solve this problem? Please help me

Sarav 








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tracking memory resource issues

2004-12-29 Thread Brian
Hi all,
As a longtime Debian user, I really appreciate the 
community that makes Debian the best. My question:
What is the best way to track down a possible 
memory leak that I have no idea which program is 
causing it even? Here is the problem:
I have a PIII-600 with 256 MB and an ATI Radeon 
9000 pro. My memory usage is fairly low when I 
first bootup and login. The apps that I leave open 
usually are Mozilla-Thunderbird and Firefox and 
then I will open other things now and then. I use 
WindowMaker and GDM, as well. However after a few 
days to a week the memory usage has gradually 
climbed to unbearable.  Further, even if I close 
all programs and leave the computer on, the memory 
usage doesn't drop to what it was when I logged 
in. How can I trace what software is sucking my 
memory?

Sincerely,
Brian
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PXE Server

2004-12-29 Thread disciple
I've created some images using Symantec Ghost 8.  I would like to use my
debian box as a pxe server to distribute these images to Windows clients. 
Is this possible?  Please show me the way.


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Re: bootsplash + debian Sid kernel 2.6.9 (initrd problem?)

2004-12-29 Thread Gael
Brian Pack wrote:
On Wed, 2004-12-29 at 02:45 +0100, Gael wrote:
 

Hi,
I have a debian-kernel 2.6.9 and I try to use bootsplash. The
framebuffer is ok (vesafb 1024x768x16). Bootsplash works
anytime but at boot-time (each console has a picture and the
first console has an animation at shutdown-time.). However
there's nothing during the boot on the first console.
Here's what I've done:
- patched the kernel with bootsplash patch
- xconfig (no logo, bootsplash, vesa module, initrd)
- dpkg -i ...
- apt-get install bootsplash sys-rc-bootsplash
I've tried different ways to include the picture in the initrd.
Either with dpkg-reconfigure or with mkinitrd + splash -s -f
/etc/bootsplash... >> /boot/initrd... didn't work.
I think that the picture is appended to the initrd but isn't
read, the system seems to ignore what is appended. In particular
the size of the initrd given buy dmesg isn't changed when the
picture is appended.
The important point is that after the framebuffer is activated, the
system doesn't look for a picure. Here's mydmesg:
   


 

The important point seems to me to be that the initrd isn't read
entirely:
-rw-r--r--   1 root root 1512630 2004-12-28 13:05 initrd.splash
So the size of initrd.splash is ~1477 while what is read is:
> RAMDISK: Loading 1444KiB [1 disk] into ram disk... done.
   

I had the exact same problem. If vesafb was compiled as a module, I got
a blank screen. If it was compiled statically, I got garbage. From my
googling the stiuation, it appears that there is a bug in the vesafb.c
code in the Debian package.
As suggested by even further googling, I replaced the Debian vesafb.c in
kernel-source-2.6.9/drivers/video with the one from the vanilla 2.6.9
kernel. Compiled it statically. I have bootsplash. :)
Hope that helps.
 

Thanks a lot. After copying  the vanilla vesafb.c and recompiling the 
kernel with
vesafb static the picture appears at boot-time too.

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Re: [Way off topic] the politics of ubuntu.org

2004-12-29 Thread William Ballard
On Wed, Dec 29, 2004 at 08:49:19AM +0100, Pascal Bonesh wrote:
> On Tue, 2004-12-28 at 21:26 -0500, William Ballard wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Your religious-right-wing crap belongs off-list, this is about debian
> and linux. 

Fuck you and the horse you rode in on.  I read the book,
and made some observations.

If you'll look at what I read I said it never says "you have to attack
these people no matter what" but it MOST ASSUREDLY DOES contain some
dubious statements which I outlined.

If you can't deal with it, go take a flying fucking leap.
I kept out of this thread until somebody said "the Koran doesn't say
anything except people are nice and all is cool."

I can't let that go unchallenged.

Fuck you, fuck you, fuck you and fuck you again.


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Debian package containing perl Date/Parse.pm

2004-12-29 Thread Otto Wyss
Does anyone know in which Debian package the perl module Date::Parse is
hidden?

O. Wyss

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Re: You don't have enough free space in /var/cache/apt/archives/

2004-12-29 Thread Kent West
David Purton wrote:
apt-get autoclean - this will delete all packages not currently installed
 

Correction: from "man apt-get" 

autoclean
  Like clean, autoclean clears out the local repository of 
retrieved package files. The difference
  is that it only removes package files that can no longer 
be downloaded, and are largely useless.
whether they're installed or not.
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Re: Debian package containing perl Date/Parse.pm

2004-12-29 Thread William Ballard
On Wed, Dec 29, 2004 at 05:18:34PM +0100, Otto Wyss wrote:
> Does anyone know in which Debian package the perl module Date::Parse is
> hidden?

apt-get install apt-file
apt-file update
apt-file search Parse.pm


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Re: Debian package containing perl Date/Parse.pm

2004-12-29 Thread Jacob S
On Wed, 29 Dec 2004 17:18:34 +0100
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Otto Wyss) wrote:

> Does anyone know in which Debian package the perl module Date::Parse
> is hidden?

According to packages.debian.org, it's in the package libtimedate-perl.

HTH,
Jacob


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machine falling into a non-usable state for no apparent reason

2004-12-29 Thread Thomas McLean
Hi all, 

I'm running SID on 2.6.9 (no other kernel was installed before the
current one). I've got a problem where my box randomly hangs and
doesn't allow any connections in or out - ssh, telnet, finger, httpd -
nothing except icmp ping requests. I've ran memtest and that seems to
log the X session I'm currently in out. I also get the following error
messages after it terminates itself from /var/log/messages:

Dec 29 15:51:02 fresh kernel: memtest: page allocation failure.
order:0, mode:0xd2
Dec 29 15:51:02 fresh kernel: [] __alloc_pages+0x29f/0x2bc
Dec 29 15:51:02 fresh kernel: [] do_anonymous_page+0x63/0x14e
Dec 29 15:51:02 fresh kernel: [] do_no_page+0x4f/0x2cf
Dec 29 15:51:02 fresh kernel: [] handle_mm_fault+0x6c/0x125
Dec 29 15:51:02 fresh kernel: [] get_user_pages+0x194/0x306
Dec 29 15:51:02 fresh kernel: [] make_pages_present+0x6b/0x85
Dec 29 15:51:02 fresh kernel: [] mlock_fixup+0x76/0x8c
Dec 29 15:51:02 fresh kernel: [] do_mlock+0x54/0x99
Dec 29 15:51:02 fresh kernel: [] sys_mlock+0x91/0xb1
Dec 29 15:51:02 fresh kernel: [] syscall_call+0x7/0xb
Dec 29 15:51:02 fresh kernel: memtest: page allocation failure.
order:0, mode:0xd2
Dec 29 15:51:02 fresh kernel: [] __alloc_pages+0x29f/0x2bc
Dec 29 15:51:02 fresh kernel: [] read_swap_cache_async+0x54/0xba
Dec 29 15:51:02 fresh kernel: [] swapin_readahead+0x3d/0x80
Dec 29 15:51:02 fresh kernel: [] do_swap_page+0x60/0x22a
Dec 29 15:51:02 fresh kernel: [] handle_mm_fault+0x92/0x125
Dec 29 15:51:02 fresh kernel: [] do_page_fault+0x19a/0x4ec
Dec 29 15:51:02 fresh kernel: [] call_console_drivers+0xe3/0xeb
Dec 29 15:51:02 fresh kernel: [] release_console_sem+0x4a/0xc0
Dec 29 15:51:02 fresh kernel: [] vprintk+0xfa/0x11a
Dec 29 15:51:02 fresh kernel: [] scheduler_tick+0x317/0x3df
Dec 29 15:51:02 fresh kernel: [] print_context_stack+0x18/0x52
Dec 29 15:51:02 fresh kernel: [] do_page_fault+0x0/0x4ec
Dec 29 15:51:02 fresh kernel: [] error_code+0x2d/0x38
Dec 29 15:51:02 fresh kernel: [] __copy_to_user_ll+0x196/0x1b6
Dec 29 15:51:02 fresh kernel: [] __do_softirq+0x34/0x79
Dec 29 15:51:02 fresh kernel: [] setup_frame+0xdd/0x27a
Dec 29 15:51:02 fresh kernel: [] common_interrupt+0x18/0x20
Dec 29 15:51:02 fresh kernel: [] handle_signal+0x76/0xc8
Dec 29 15:51:02 fresh kernel: [] do_signal+0x79/0xcc
Dec 29 15:51:02 fresh kernel: [] mlock_fixup+0x76/0x8c
Dec 29 15:51:02 fresh kernel: [] do_mlock+0x54/0x99
Dec 29 15:51:02 fresh kernel: [] do_notify_resume+0x27/0x38
Dec 29 15:51:02 fresh kernel: [] work_notifysig+0x13/0x15
Dec 29 15:51:02 fresh kernel: memtest: page allocation failure.
order:0, mode:0xd2
Dec 29 15:51:02 fresh kernel: [] __alloc_pages+0x29f/0x2bc
Dec 29 15:51:02 fresh kernel: [] read_swap_cache_async+0x54/0xba
Dec 29 15:51:02 fresh kernel: [] do_swap_page+0x6b/0x22a
Dec 29 15:51:02 fresh kernel: [] handle_mm_fault+0x92/0x125
Dec 29 15:51:02 fresh kernel: [] do_page_fault+0x19a/0x4ec
Dec 29 15:51:02 fresh kernel: [] call_console_drivers+0xe3/0xeb
Dec 29 15:51:02 fresh kernel: [] release_console_sem+0x4a/0xc0
Dec 29 15:51:02 fresh kernel: [] vprintk+0xfa/0x11a
Dec 29 15:51:02 fresh kernel: [] scheduler_tick+0x317/0x3df
Dec 29 15:51:02 fresh kernel: [] print_context_stack+0x18/0x52
Dec 29 15:51:02 fresh kernel: [] do_page_fault+0x0/0x4ec
Dec 29 15:51:02 fresh kernel: [] error_code+0x2d/0x38
Dec 29 15:51:02 fresh kernel: [] __copy_to_user_ll+0x196/0x1b6
Dec 29 15:51:02 fresh kernel: [] __do_softirq+0x34/0x79
Dec 29 15:51:02 fresh kernel: [] setup_frame+0xdd/0x27a
Dec 29 15:51:02 fresh kernel: [] common_interrupt+0x18/0x20
Dec 29 15:51:02 fresh kernel: [] handle_signal+0x76/0xc8
Dec 29 15:51:02 fresh kernel: [] do_signal+0x79/0xcc
Dec 29 15:51:02 fresh kernel: [] mlock_fixup+0x76/0x8c
Dec 29 15:51:02 fresh kernel: [] do_mlock+0x54/0x99
Dec 29 15:51:02 fresh kernel: [] do_notify_resume+0x27/0x38
Dec 29 15:51:02 fresh kernel: [] work_notifysig+0x13/0x15
Dec 29 15:51:02 fresh kernel: VM: killing process memtest


I've also ran chkrootkit from unstable to see if it could be anything
else and to rule other factors out and that can't find any obvious
breakins.

What I'm curious about why the box will go into an unusable state but
when restarted it will be fine up until a random point. It could be
two hours or two days. So if it is the memory why would the box still
be accepting ICMP ping requests but nothing else that I can see?

Any help in this matter is very much appreciated.

Tam.


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Re: 2 GB RAM support in woody

2004-12-29 Thread Jonathan Lassoff
On Wed, 29 Dec 2004 07:49:07 -0800 (PST), saravanan ganapathy
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> I have done recompile using kernel-source-2.4.18 and
> after reboot I got the following error
>
> EXT3-fs: mounted filesystem with ordered data mode
> VFS: Mounted root (ext3 filesystem) readonly
> Freeing unused kernel memory: 288k freed
> kernel panic no init found , try passing init= option
> to kernel
>
> How to solve this problem? Please help me
>
> Sarav

Well, obviously your kernel cannot find init. On my box it is in
/sbin/init, and is likely the same for yours. What is happening is
that your kernel is looking somewhere for init and not finding it,
either as a result of an improperly mounted filesystem or lack of its
existence. See what init other kernels find and try passing the path
to one on a properly mounted root file system by passing a correct
"root=" option (like "root=/dev/hda1") and init option (like
"init=/sbin/init") and see where that might get you. I seem to
remember that one could define where init is in the kernel
configuration, or just pass it at boot time.

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Re: machine falling into a non-usable state for no apparent reason

2004-12-29 Thread Christian
Am Mittwoch, 29. Dezember 2004 17:47 schrieb Thomas McLean:
> Hi all,
>
> I'm running SID on 2.6.9 (no other kernel was installed before the
> current one). I've got a problem where my box randomly hangs and
> doesn't allow any connections in or out - ssh, telnet, finger, httpd -
> nothing except icmp ping requests. I've ran memtest and that seems to
> log the X session I'm currently in out. I also get the following error
> messages after it terminates itself from /var/log/messages:
>
> Dec 29 15:51:02 fresh kernel: memtest: page allocation failure.
> order:0, mode:0xd2
> Dec 29 15:51:02 fresh kernel: [] __alloc_pages+0x29f/0x2bc
> Dec 29 15:51:02 fresh kernel: [] do_anonymous_page+0x63/0x14e
> Dec 29 15:51:02 fresh kernel: [] do_no_page+0x4f/0x2cf
> Dec 29 15:51:02 fresh kernel: [] handle_mm_fault+0x6c/0x125
> Dec 29 15:51:02 fresh kernel: [] get_user_pages+0x194/0x306
> Dec 29 15:51:02 fresh kernel: [] make_pages_present+0x6b/0x85
> Dec 29 15:51:02 fresh kernel: [] mlock_fixup+0x76/0x8c
> Dec 29 15:51:02 fresh kernel: [] do_mlock+0x54/0x99
> Dec 29 15:51:02 fresh kernel: [] sys_mlock+0x91/0xb1
> Dec 29 15:51:02 fresh kernel: [] syscall_call+0x7/0xb
> Dec 29 15:51:02 fresh kernel: memtest: page allocation failure.
> order:0, mode:0xd2
> Dec 29 15:51:02 fresh kernel: [] __alloc_pages+0x29f/0x2bc
> Dec 29 15:51:02 fresh kernel: [] read_swap_cache_async+0x54/0xba
> Dec 29 15:51:02 fresh kernel: [] swapin_readahead+0x3d/0x80
> Dec 29 15:51:02 fresh kernel: [] do_swap_page+0x60/0x22a
> Dec 29 15:51:02 fresh kernel: [] handle_mm_fault+0x92/0x125
> Dec 29 15:51:02 fresh kernel: [] do_page_fault+0x19a/0x4ec
> Dec 29 15:51:02 fresh kernel: [] call_console_drivers+0xe3/0xeb
> Dec 29 15:51:02 fresh kernel: [] release_console_sem+0x4a/0xc0
> Dec 29 15:51:02 fresh kernel: [] vprintk+0xfa/0x11a
> Dec 29 15:51:02 fresh kernel: [] scheduler_tick+0x317/0x3df
> Dec 29 15:51:02 fresh kernel: [] print_context_stack+0x18/0x52
> Dec 29 15:51:02 fresh kernel: [] do_page_fault+0x0/0x4ec
> Dec 29 15:51:02 fresh kernel: [] error_code+0x2d/0x38
> Dec 29 15:51:02 fresh kernel: [] __copy_to_user_ll+0x196/0x1b6
> Dec 29 15:51:02 fresh kernel: [] __do_softirq+0x34/0x79
> Dec 29 15:51:02 fresh kernel: [] setup_frame+0xdd/0x27a
> Dec 29 15:51:02 fresh kernel: [] common_interrupt+0x18/0x20
> Dec 29 15:51:02 fresh kernel: [] handle_signal+0x76/0xc8
> Dec 29 15:51:02 fresh kernel: [] do_signal+0x79/0xcc
> Dec 29 15:51:02 fresh kernel: [] mlock_fixup+0x76/0x8c
> Dec 29 15:51:02 fresh kernel: [] do_mlock+0x54/0x99
> Dec 29 15:51:02 fresh kernel: [] do_notify_resume+0x27/0x38
> Dec 29 15:51:02 fresh kernel: [] work_notifysig+0x13/0x15
> Dec 29 15:51:02 fresh kernel: memtest: page allocation failure.
> order:0, mode:0xd2
> Dec 29 15:51:02 fresh kernel: [] __alloc_pages+0x29f/0x2bc
> Dec 29 15:51:02 fresh kernel: [] read_swap_cache_async+0x54/0xba
> Dec 29 15:51:02 fresh kernel: [] do_swap_page+0x6b/0x22a
> Dec 29 15:51:02 fresh kernel: [] handle_mm_fault+0x92/0x125
> Dec 29 15:51:02 fresh kernel: [] do_page_fault+0x19a/0x4ec
> Dec 29 15:51:02 fresh kernel: [] call_console_drivers+0xe3/0xeb
> Dec 29 15:51:02 fresh kernel: [] release_console_sem+0x4a/0xc0
> Dec 29 15:51:02 fresh kernel: [] vprintk+0xfa/0x11a
> Dec 29 15:51:02 fresh kernel: [] scheduler_tick+0x317/0x3df
> Dec 29 15:51:02 fresh kernel: [] print_context_stack+0x18/0x52
> Dec 29 15:51:02 fresh kernel: [] do_page_fault+0x0/0x4ec
> Dec 29 15:51:02 fresh kernel: [] error_code+0x2d/0x38
> Dec 29 15:51:02 fresh kernel: [] __copy_to_user_ll+0x196/0x1b6
> Dec 29 15:51:02 fresh kernel: [] __do_softirq+0x34/0x79
> Dec 29 15:51:02 fresh kernel: [] setup_frame+0xdd/0x27a
> Dec 29 15:51:02 fresh kernel: [] common_interrupt+0x18/0x20
> Dec 29 15:51:02 fresh kernel: [] handle_signal+0x76/0xc8
> Dec 29 15:51:02 fresh kernel: [] do_signal+0x79/0xcc
> Dec 29 15:51:02 fresh kernel: [] mlock_fixup+0x76/0x8c
> Dec 29 15:51:02 fresh kernel: [] do_mlock+0x54/0x99
> Dec 29 15:51:02 fresh kernel: [] do_notify_resume+0x27/0x38
> Dec 29 15:51:02 fresh kernel: [] work_notifysig+0x13/0x15
> Dec 29 15:51:02 fresh kernel: VM: killing process memtest
>
>
> I've also ran chkrootkit from unstable to see if it could be anything
> else and to rule other factors out and that can't find any obvious
> breakins.
>
> What I'm curious about why the box will go into an unusable state but
> when restarted it will be fine up until a random point. It could be
> two hours or two days. So if it is the memory why would the box still
> be accepting ICMP ping requests but nothing else that I can see?
>
> Any help in this matter is very much appreciated.
>
> Tam.

The syslog output is the same on my system if I run memtest. This seems to be 
some kind of Out-of-Memory condition.

I suggest you should run memtest86 [1] over night to check your memory.


[1] http://www.memtest.org/ or www.knopper.net for a bootable iso-image
 http://www.knopper.net/knoppix-mirrors/index-en.html

-Christian


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Re: Multiple installed kernel-image packages?

2004-12-29 Thread CW Harris
On Tue, Dec 28, 2004 at 11:30:15PM -0500, William Ballard wrote:
> On Tue, Dec 28, 2004 at 11:08:19PM -0500, Adam Aube wrote:
> > Paul Gear wrote:
> [snip nested attributions, correctly I hope]
> > > Thanks for the detailed response.  Are you saying that once my system is
> > > installed (on 2.6.8, as it happens), it will never get an upgrade to
> > > 2.6.9 (once it is released) unless i explicitly install it?
> > 
> > Correct.
> 
> Why in the heck isn't there a:
> kernel-source-latest, which is upgraded whenever a new kernel source package
> comes out, and depends on that, and a
> kernel-source-latest-only, which depends on kernel-source-latest and
> conflicts with earlier kernel-source packages?

There are source packages kernel-latest-{version}-{arch}.  Is  this what
you are looking for? (E.g. kernel-latest-2.6-i386)

> 
> Doing the same for kernel-images would result in an explosion of
> kernel-image-* packages in the archive, so maybe just do it for the source.
> Only two extra packages.

As another thread pointed out there are meta-packages for images that
will always depend on the latest kernel.


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Re: Multiple installed kernel-image packages?

2004-12-29 Thread William Ballard
On Wed, Dec 29, 2004 at 10:19:23AM -0700, CW Harris wrote:
> There are source packages kernel-latest-{version}-{arch}.  Is  this what
> you are looking for? (E.g. kernel-latest-2.6-i386)

Do you mean kernel-source-2.6?

There are no packages named kernel-latest-* in the repository.

However it looks like kernel-source-2.6 is satisfied by any
of the previous four versions of the 2.6 kernel, so I won't
automatically get kernel-source-2.6.10 when it comes out.


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Re: Sarge box not rebooting..

2004-12-29 Thread Miquel van Smoorenburg
On 2004.12.29 16:20, Robert Waldner wrote:
On Tue, 28 Dec 2004 18:30:27 +0100, Robert Waldner writes:
>>No, kill(-1, SIGWHATEVER) is guaranteed to kill all processes
>>/except/ the caller. "man 2 kill" on any unix/linux box. What kernel
>>are you using, this might be a kernel bug. Is this an i386 or
>>another architecture ?
>2.4.27, from kernel-image-2.4.27-1-386, i386 arch, straight Sarge
> from d-i RC2, `apt-get upgrade` up-to-date as of now.
>I've put more info (`dpkg -l`, `ps auxwww`, cpuinfo, meminfo, lsmod) at
> http://www.waldner.priv.at/temp/machine.txt (it'd make for one long
> email otherwise).
I've now tested through a couple kernel-images, and found that the 
 problem does NOT manifest itself when it's an SMP-kernel, eg 
 2.4.26-1-686-smp and 2.4.27-1-686-smp are fine, but the default 
 2.4.26/7-1-386 and their respective -686 siblings aren't.

What remains is the question if I should file this as a (grave?) bug 
 against kernel-image-2.4.27-1-386.

And, for people googling this up later: DO NOT run the standard Sarge 
 kernel 2.4.27-1-386 on HP/Compaq DL380 machines, you won't be able to 
 reboot/shutdown them.
Well, it would be perfect if you could reproduce this. Try something like:
#include 
#include 
void sigcld(int sig)
{
printf("Caught SIGCLD\n");
}
int main()
{
signal(SIGCLD, sigcld);
kill(-1, SIGCLD);
sleep(2);
return 0;
}
If this prints "Caught SIGCLD" then that is a severe kernel bug.
Try both "cc foo.c" and "cc foo.c -lpthread" please.
Oh and what is the output of "ldd /sbin/killall5" ?
Mike.


LDAP auth problems

2004-12-29 Thread Romel Sandoval
Hi everybody :-)

I'm trying to configure a LDAP server with Debian Sarge. But I have some
problems with the packages.

First I make...

#apt-get install slapd ldap-utils libsasl2-modules

And then debconf ask...

Do you want to omit the configuration for slapd? Ans=No
Enter your dns domain name: Ans=antalnet.com
Enter the name of your organization: Ans=Antalnet
Admin password:  Ans=**
Verify password:  Ans=**
Which database backend would you like to use? Ans=BDB
Do you want your database to be removed when slapd is purged? Ans=No
Move old database? Ans=Yes
Allow LDAPv2 protocol? Ans=Yes
So I finish with a /etc/ldap/slapd.conf with this options set:

-- /etc/ldap/slapd.conf 
allow bind_v2
include /etc/ldap/schema/core.schema
include /etc/ldap/schema/cosine.schema
include /etc/ldap/schema/nis.schema
include /etc/ldap/schema/inetorgperson.schema
schemacheck on
pidfile /var/run/slapd/slapd.pid
argsfile/var/run/slapd.args
loglevel0
modulepath  /usr/lib/ldap
moduleload  back_bdb
backend bdb
databasebdb
suffix  "dc=antalnet,dc=com"
directory   "/var/lib/ldap"
index   objectClass eq
lastmod on
access to attribute=userPassword
   by dn="cn=admin,dc=antalnet,dc=com" write
   by anonymous auth
   by self write
   by * none
access to dn.base="" by * read
access to *
   by dn="cn=admin,dc=antalnet,dc=com" write
   by * read
-

I create a people.ldif file containing:

dn: ou=people,dc=antalnet,dc=com
ou: people
objectClass: organizationalUnit

But when I try to...

#ldapadd -f people.ldif
SASL/DIGEST-MD5 authentication started
Please enter your password:

This message appears:

ldap_sasl_interactive_bind_s: Invalid credentials (49)
   additional info: SASL(-13): authentication failure: client
response doesn't match what we generated

I try also with:
#ldapadd -f people.ldif -U admin
and
#ldapadd -f people.ldif -D 'cn=admin,dc=antalnet,dc=com'
without luck.

Anybody could helpme, please?




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Re: [Way off topic] depleted uranium

2004-12-29 Thread bandito
i think they'd be used more as an environmental contaminant than
something intended to actually cause death... setting off a big one in a
city wouldnt kill THAT many people, but it'd keep them out of the
contaminated area until the radioactive material was cleaned up (or a
few millions years passes, whichever comes first).
in that respect, i think the result is a bit similar

On Wed, Dec 29, 2004 at 04:56:14AM -0500, David Raleigh Arnold wrote:
> On Tuesday 28 December 2004 08:28 pm, Sam Watkins wrote:
> > On Mon, Dec 27, 2004 at 02:46:33PM -0800, Steve Lamb wrote:
> > > >The worst "terrorist" is America, with your depleted uranium
> > > >"dirty-bombs" which you throw around at every opportunity,
> 
> A dirty bomb is a nuclear device designed to kill by radiation
> instead of blast.  Depleted uranium has no dangerous radiation.
> That's why it's depleted.  Instead, it is extremely toxic.
> People get sick on account of good ol' chemical poisoning, not
> radiation.
> 
> Obvious ignorance does not help with what is your apparent
> cause.  Know what you are talking about before you open your
> yap.  daveA
> 
> 
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Re: [Way off topic] depleted uranium

2004-12-29 Thread dorn hetzel
On Wed, Dec 29, 2004 at 09:48:56AM -0800, bandito wrote:
> i think they'd be used more as an environmental contaminant than
> something intended to actually cause death... setting off a big one in a
> city wouldnt kill THAT many people, but it'd keep them out of the
> contaminated area until the radioactive material was cleaned up (or a
> few millions years passes, whichever comes first).
> in that respect, i think the result is a bit similar
>
DU as a contaminant isn't really much more or less problematic than
say lead or mercury.  Well, in some respects it's easier to clean up
because it's very easy to separate from the environment because of
it's radically heavier weight.

DU's unique property that gets it used in so many weapons systems
is its rather amazing density, pretty much the best transmitter of
energy in the kinetic form that there ever was.  Not saying that
justifies it's use, just that it explains it...

-Dorn


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Re: [SOLVED] Re: permissions with udev/pmount?

2004-12-29 Thread Nicolas de Sereville
Hi,
Andrea Vettorello wrote:
On Wed, 29 Dec 2004 11:05:11 +0100, Nicolas de Sereville
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
 

Hi,
Thank you to H.S. and Andrea! It is now working. The point is that while
trying to understand my problem I erased me from the "hal" group. After
adding me back to this group, everything is working smooth ;-) When I
plug in my stick, my archos or my camera the icon is automatically
appearing on the desktop.
Here are some informations of my configuration if it can help somebody else:
1) I belong to the "plugdev" and "hal" group
2) I have installed:
dpkg -l hal '*dbus*' 'gnome-vol*' hotplug pmount | grep ^ii
ii  hal0.4.2-5Hardware Abstraction Layer
ii  dbus-1 0.22-3 simple interprocess messaging system
ii  dbus-glib-10.22-3 simple interprocess messaging system
(GLib-b
ii  python2.3-dbus 0.22-3 simple interprocess messaging system
(Python
ii  gnome-volume-m 1.1.2-5GNOME daemon to auto-mount and manage
media
ii  hotplug0.0.20040329-1 Linux Hotplug Scripts
ii  pmount 0.4.4-1mount removable devices as normal user
3) In gnome-volume-properties, I set the three following options:
"Mount removable drives when hot plugged"
"Mount removable media when inserted"
"Browse removable media when inserted"
4) udev rule for my camera:
BUS="scsi", KERNEL="sd*", SYSFS{vendor}="PENTAX  ",
SYSFS{model}="DIGITAL_CAMERA  ", NAME="gyp-ca-%k",
SYMLINK="gyp-ca-usb%n", MODE="0660", GROUP="hal"
5) /etc/fstab line for my camera
/dev/gyp-ca-usb1/media/camara   autorw,user,noauto,sync
0  0
6) /media/camera has been created before by hand
Thanks again for your useful help!
Nico
   

There's a typo in your /etc/fstab (/media/camara instead of
/media/camera), 

you're right, I mixed english (camera) and spanish (camara)
and i'm not sure you need to be in the hal group to
get gnome-volume-manager working...
 

you are also right, I erased me from the "hal" group and it is working 
smoothly.

Thanks for pointing out that to me,
Nico

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alsaconf failing on sarge, depmod says unresolved symbols

2004-12-29 Thread bandito
Howdy yall,

I'm in the process of setting up a brand spankin' new sarge box, but I'm
having a little trouble with alsa...
I couldn't find anything in the mailing list archives referencing the
error I'm getting and google has been no help to me.

---

Here's the background info:
 - Kernel package version 2.4.27-1-k7 (the default one)
 - Kernel source package, version same
 - Sound card is a SB Audigy Platinum, which should be driver
   snd-emu10k1

My lsmod looks like this:
Module  Size  Used byTainted: P  
soundcore   3972   0  (autoclean)
agpgart45476   3  (autoclean)
nvidia   3208152   6  (autoclean)
apm 9964   1  (autoclean)
mousedev3988   1 
hid21124   0  (unused)
input   3520   0  [mousedev hid]
emu10k1-gp  1320   0  (unused)
gameport1676   0  [emu10k1-gp]
ohci1394   25360   0  (unused)
ieee1394  186020   0  [ohci1394]
ehci-hcd   17932   0  (unused)
usb-uhci   22960   0  (unused)
usbcore62220   1  [hid ehci-hcd usb-uhci]
ide-scsi9904   0 
aic7xxx   144728   0  (unused)
scsi_mod   94564   2  [ide-scsi aic7xxx]
8139too14536   1 
mii 2432   0  [8139too]
crc32   2880   0  [8139too]
ide-cd 30976   0 
cdrom  29444   0  [ide-cd]
rtc 6376   0  (autoclean)
ext3   80044   1  (autoclean)
jbd41604   1  (autoclean) [ext3]
ide-detect   288   0  (autoclean) (unused)
via82cxxx  10504   1  (autoclean)
ide-disk   16576   2  (autoclean)
ide-core  107128   2  (autoclean) [ide-scsi ide-cd
ide-detect via82cxxx ide-disk]
unix   14800 230  (autoclean)

---

I installed alsaconf, alsamixer, alsa-base, etc. etc. and met all
package dependencies. I then run alsaconf, which detects the card
no-problemo. When alsaconf finishes up, it writes this to stdout:

Running update-modules...
depmod: *** Unresolved symbols in
/lib/modules/2.4.27-1-k7/updates/alsa/snd-azx.o
depmod: *** Unresolved symbols in
/lib/modules/2.4.27-1-k7/updates/alsa/snd-gus-lib.o
depmod: *** Unresolved symbols in
/lib/modules/2.4.27-1-k7/updates/alsa/snd-hwdep.o
depmod: *** Unresolved symbols in
/lib/modules/2.4.27-1-k7/updates/alsa/snd-intel8x0.o
depmod: *** Unresolved symbols in
/lib/modules/2.4.27-1-k7/updates/alsa/snd-mixart.o
depmod: *** Unresolved symbols in
/lib/modules/2.4.27-1-k7/updates/alsa/snd-mpu401.o
depmod: *** Unresolved symbols in
/lib/modules/2.4.27-1-k7/updates/alsa/snd-page-alloc.o
depmod: *** Unresolved symbols in
/lib/modules/2.4.27-1-k7/updates/alsa/snd-pcm-oss.o
depmod: *** Unresolved symbols in
/lib/modules/2.4.27-1-k7/updates/alsa/snd-pcm.o
depmod: *** Unresolved symbols in
/lib/modules/2.4.27-1-k7/updates/alsa/snd-pdaudiocf.o
depmod: *** Unresolved symbols in
/lib/modules/2.4.27-1-k7/updates/alsa/snd-rawmidi.o
depmod: *** Unresolved symbols in
/lib/modules/2.4.27-1-k7/updates/alsa/snd-seq-oss.o
depmod: *** Unresolved symbols in
/lib/modules/2.4.27-1-k7/updates/alsa/snd-seq.o
depmod: *** Unresolved symbols in
/lib/modules/2.4.27-1-k7/updates/alsa/snd-serialmidi.o
depmod: *** Unresolved symbols in
/lib/modules/2.4.27-1-k7/updates/alsa/snd-tea575x-tuner.o
depmod: *** Unresolved symbols in
/lib/modules/2.4.27-1-k7/updates/alsa/snd-timer.o
depmod: *** Unresolved symbols in
/lib/modules/2.4.27-1-k7/updates/alsa/snd-usb-audio.o
depmod: *** Unresolved symbols in
/lib/modules/2.4.27-1-k7/updates/alsa/snd-usb-lib.o
depmod: *** Unresolved symbols in
/lib/modules/2.4.27-1-k7/updates/alsa/snd-usb-usx2y.o
depmod: *** Unresolved symbols in
/lib/modules/2.4.27-1-k7/updates/alsa/snd-vx-cs.o
depmod: *** Unresolved symbols in
/lib/modules/2.4.27-1-k7/updates/alsa/snd-vx-lib.o
depmod: *** Unresolved symbols in
/lib/modules/2.4.27-1-k7/updates/alsa/snd-vxp440.o
depmod: *** Unresolved symbols in
/lib/modules/2.4.27-1-k7/updates/alsa/snd-vxpocket.o
depmod: *** Unresolved symbols in
/lib/modules/2.4.27-1-k7/updates/alsa/snd-wavefront.o
depmod: *** Unresolved symbols in
/lib/modules/2.4.27-1-k7/updates/alsa/snd-ymfpci.o
depmod: *** Unresolved symbols in
/lib/modules/2.4.27-1-k7/updates/alsa/snd.o
Loading driver...
/lib/modules/2.4.27-1-k7/updates/alsa/snd-page-alloc.o:
/lib/modules/2.4.27-1-k7/updates/alsa/snd-page-alloc.o: unresolved
symbol mem_map_Rdb8be4fa
/lib/modules/2.4.27-1-k7/updates/alsa/snd-page-alloc.o:
/lib/modules/2.4.27-1-k7/updates/alsa/snd-page-alloc.o: unresolved
symbol create_proc_entry_Ra185990c
/lib/modules/2.4.27-1-k7/updates/alsa/snd-page-alloc.o:
/lib/modules/2.4.27-1-k7/updates/alsa/snd-page-alloc.o: unresolved
symbol remove_proc_entry_R4a81d799
/lib/modules/2.4.27-1-k7/updates/alsa/snd-page-alloc.o:
/lib/modules/2.4.27-1-k7/upda

Re: alsaconf failing on sarge, depmod says unresolved symbols

2004-12-29 Thread kurtz
bandito escribe:
> I installed alsaconf, alsamixer, alsa-base, etc. etc. and met all
> package dependencies.

What about alsa-modules-2.4.27-1-k7?
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Re: [Way off topic] the politics of ubuntu.org

2004-12-29 Thread David P James
On Wed 29 December 2004 02:49, Pascal Bonesh wrote:
> On Tue, 2004-12-28 at 21:26 -0500, William Ballard wrote:
>
> 
>
>
> Your religious-right-wing crap belongs off-list, this is about debian
> and linux.

It would if he had written any, but so does your 
willfully-ignorant-left-wing crap.

>
> I can understand how people cannot let statements like yours, full of
> prejudice and racism, stand not contradicted - tolerance is good,
> except towards the intolerant.

Ah, so we should be intolerant of you then? You see, once you've decided 
to exempt from tolerance those whom you consider to be intolerant then 
you exempt yourself from that very same tolerance that you expect.

>
> Why can't you just stay on
> www.I-am-a-christian-fundamentalist.com/whatever-mailing-list and the
> debian/linux people stay here?

Reading William's previous post over I did not see anything that could 
be considered "religious-right-wing" or "Christian Fundamentalist" - 
after all, no reasonable person would ever expect a Christian 
*Fundamentalist* to say that Christianity expects one to behave like a 
pussy. I mean seriously. That by itself should have been enough to 
dispel the notion.You really need to read things and think a bit before 
getting out the old fundamentalist tarring brush.

>
> > My neck hair gets all bristly until when I meet people who deny
> > this.  It's like -- what's THIS guy trying to hide?
>
> My neck hair gets bristly when I read statements from a
> fundamentalist A with book A who claims to have the better book than
> fundamentalist B who uses book B.

William is not a fundamentalist (nor I am, lest you decide in your 
Jacobin, umm, crusade that I am) and as no such claim was ever made 
(unless you consider his claim of there being nothing in the Koran akin 
to being a pussy...) this is all irrelevant.

>
> Every time I see someone damning the curan then it's just another
> fundamentalist - just a Taliban of the christian flavor,

This says more about you than it does about anyone else. So by that 
"logic" you must think that people like the assassinated Dutchmen Pim 
Fortuyn and Van Gogh are Christian Fundamentalists?

> all feverish 
> because in their hearts they know that it was fundamentalists who
> where in the planes on 9/11 and now they need to construct a
> difference between those and themselves. The most obvious one is that
> they and themselves are similar in that they are fundamentalists but
> one uses book A and the other one uses book B...!

Again, William is not a fundamentalist by any reasonable definition so 
all you've done here is set a up a straw man, which, carrying on with 
the theme, you've gone and burned at the stake.


I have seen some bizarre things in this thread, such as claims that GWB 
is "amoral" (Clinton might have been amoral, but GWB isn't - you might 
be able to argue he's immoral but certainly not amoral) and that Islam 
has nothing in its history like the Crusades (also untrue - there's 
Spain, or as Osama ranted, Andalusia, France if it weren't for 
Poitiers, Lepanto, Constantinople, and of course Vienna, not to mention 
the smaller but more far-reaching campaigns into Persia, India and 
Indonesia). All of that pales in comparison though with the 
unprecedented personal attack of this previous post, which thus far no 
one else has seen fit to denounce.


And here is an open statement to those of you of a leftist leaning: 
there exists a school of thought that subscribes to the belief in the 
freedom of the individual and that that freedom should not be 
unreasonably impinged upon. Historically, those who subscribe to this 
would have been classical liberals of the Adam Smith and John Locke 
variety. Present day "liberals" have forgotten their origins so those 
of us who continue to subscribe to this belief are now mainly found on 
the political right and are sometimes referred to as "economic 
conservatives" or as "libertarians". We are not to be confused with the 
religious big state variety of "conservatives", of whom GWB is one. 
Anyway, it is for that love of freedom that we use Linux and Debian in 
particular. Some of you may be using it because of a belief in the 
similarity of open source development and idealized marxist production, 
and that's fine, but we're here for the freedom and if you can respect 
that then we'll get along.

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Re: Debian package containing perl Date/Parse.pm

2004-12-29 Thread Otto Wyss
William Ballard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> On Wed, Dec 29, 2004 at 05:18:34PM +0100, Otto Wyss wrote:
> > Does anyone know in which Debian package the perl module Date::Parse is
> > hidden?
> 
> apt-get install apt-file
> apt-file update
> apt-file search Parse.pm

Sorry I don't use apt and "dpkg -S Parse.pm", which probably is the same
as "apt-file search Parse.pm" doesn't find anything.

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Re: Debian package containing perl Date/Parse.pm

2004-12-29 Thread Otto Wyss
Jacob S <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> > Does anyone know in which Debian package the perl module Date::Parse
> > is hidden?
> 
> According to packages.debian.org, it's in the package libtimedate-perl.
> 
Thanks a lot. It didn't occurred to me to look at packages.debian.org, I
only tried "dpkg -S Parse.pm" and read through the descriptions of all
perl date packages. Unfortunately most perl packages don't list their
module name(s) in the short descriptions.

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Re: [Way off topic] depleted uranium

2004-12-29 Thread bandito
agreed, the intended effect of DU rounds versus dirty bombs are quite
different. but while it certainly may be easier to clean up than other
more common contaminants, i think the people who live in the areas where
we're firing this stuff are pretty content to let it sit there and have
their kids munch on it. that being said, i must amend my first assertion 
(that the results are similar) simply because the people who live in the 
areas contaminated by this stuff do not in fact leave the area, as would 
most people who lived in an area hit by a dirty bomb.

csmonitor had a good series on DU, located at:
http://www.csmonitor.com/atcsmonitor/specials/uranium/


Bill

On Wed, Dec 29, 2004 at 01:06:45PM -0500, dorn hetzel wrote:
> On Wed, Dec 29, 2004 at 09:48:56AM -0800, bandito wrote:
> > i think they'd be used more as an environmental contaminant than
> > something intended to actually cause death... setting off a big one in a
> > city wouldnt kill THAT many people, but it'd keep them out of the
> > contaminated area until the radioactive material was cleaned up (or a
> > few millions years passes, whichever comes first).
> > in that respect, i think the result is a bit similar
> >
> DU as a contaminant isn't really much more or less problematic than
> say lead or mercury.  Well, in some respects it's easier to clean up
> because it's very easy to separate from the environment because of
> it's radically heavier weight.
> 
> DU's unique property that gets it used in so many weapons systems
> is its rather amazing density, pretty much the best transmitter of
> energy in the kinetic form that there ever was.  Not saying that
> justifies it's use, just that it explains it...
> 
> -Dorn
> 
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Re: [Way off topic] the politics of ubuntu.org

2004-12-29 Thread Wim De Smet
On Wed, 29 Dec 2004 08:45:06 -0600, Alex Malinovich
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Wed, 2004-12-29 at 08:49 +0100, Pascal Bonesh wrote:
> --snip--
> > What a wonderful world it would be if all people would just throw away
> > their holy books and start thinking and acting as humans.
> 
> Bravo! I second that wholeheartedly!
> 

Not following a religion doesn't automatically make one kind and
generous. Nor can we infer from the opinion of a few that an entire
religion is rotten, as I have said before. The basic law of
christianity is still "do unto others as you would have them do unto
you". I think every of the big religions has that, some people just
seem to want to forget about it.

Anyway I agree on the second part. :-)

greets,
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Re: alsaconf failing on sarge, depmod says unresolved symbols

2004-12-29 Thread bandito
Yep, that is installed as well

Bill

On Wed, Dec 29, 2004 at 07:19:05PM +0100, kurtz wrote:
> bandito escribe:
> > I installed alsaconf, alsamixer, alsa-base, etc. etc. and met all
> > package dependencies.
> 
> What about alsa-modules-2.4.27-1-k7?
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Re: Debian package containing perl Date/Parse.pm

2004-12-29 Thread William Ballard
On Wed, Dec 29, 2004 at 07:18:02PM +0100, Otto Wyss wrote:
> Sorry I don't use apt and "dpkg -S Parse.pm", which probably is the same
> as "apt-file search Parse.pm" doesn't find anything.

dpkg -S only searches already installed packages.
apt-file does the same thing but includes not-installed packages.

You can do the same thing at packages.debian.org.
I do it frequently so I like apt-file.

It's a great way to whether or not a CPAN module is packaged.


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Re: Debian package containing perl Date/Parse.pm

2004-12-29 Thread Jacob S
On Wed, 29 Dec 2004 19:18:02 +0100
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Otto Wyss) wrote:

> William Ballard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> > On Wed, Dec 29, 2004 at 05:18:34PM +0100, Otto Wyss wrote:
> > > Does anyone know in which Debian package the perl module
> > > Date::Parse is hidden?
> > 
> > apt-get install apt-file
> > apt-file update
> > apt-file search Parse.pm
> 
> Sorry I don't use apt and "dpkg -S Parse.pm", which probably is the
> same as "apt-file search Parse.pm" doesn't find anything.

Actually, dpkg -S only tells you which package installed a file if it's
already installed on your system. If you need to know which package to
install, apt-file or packages.debian.org is what you need.

HTH,
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Re: [Way off topic] the Quran

2004-12-29 Thread Syed Huq
> 
> The Muslims believe in a conecpt of "nullification" (I forget the
> correct term) that essentially states that later verses in the Quran
> that contradict with earlier verses, contradict or "trump" the earlier
> verses.  Read the book I mention above and you will see what I mean.
> The Quran directly contradicts itself and parts of Hadith contradict
> what the Quran says.
> 
> 
> -Roberto Sanchez

This is absolute "bullshit" to be precise. There is "no" piece of the Quran OR
the Hadith that ever contradicts each other. Infact, it "compliments"
each other in many respect. Why not read the original Quran and the
Hadith and draw your
conclusion instead of 'one man's interpretationwhich is as I said
is pure bull.

- Rathon


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Re: kernel panic on recompiled kernel

2004-12-29 Thread Eric Persson
Bob Alexander wrote:
Eric,
what bootloader are you using ? Please post what is in your lilo.conf or 
grub/menu.lst
I'm using grup and the contents of my menu.lst is at
http://www.persson.tm/debian_install/menu.lst

Aslo,
what version of sarge are you using ?
cat /etc/debian_version gives me 3.1
What laptop are you using ?
Its kind of a noname laptop called zepto, quite standard hardware, most 
of it I guess.

Another thing you could try is
a) clean install of sarge with a current sarge netinst snapshot 
installing a quite minila system
I used a iso file called sarge-i386-netinst.iso is that the latest?

b) apt-get install of a Debian 2.6.9 kernel from unstable
I did an apt-get install kernel-image-2.6.8-1-686
and got it working right from the install, no problems.
However, the reason i needed to recompile the kernel was that I wanted 
to get the nvidia drivers for x working correctly, and that doesnt seem 
to do with the kernel-headers package for 2.4.27 that I ran before. But 
this seems to got changed with 2.6.8 so now that works.

So, currently I dont really need to recompile, more than for the fun of 
it, and any possible speed improvements it might give me. :)

If you get any ideas on how to get my personal configured and tailored 
kernel to boot correctly, I would appreciate it. :)

Best regards,
Eric
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Re: Webcam in Debian

2004-12-29 Thread Barrett Dillow
I've tried using a Logitech Quickcam Express before, but never with any 
success. I knew the camera worked in Windows, but I could never get past 
whatever step should come after loading the kernel module for it. I 
wouldn't know which devices in /dev/ to use, etc. That was a while ago, 
however. I had about four years of linux experience at the time, 
including kernel compiling. As it was so long ago, maybe support has 
improved. I don't know.

That's been my only experience w/ webcams in linux, so I can't speak to 
your other questions. I hope people have been replying directly to you, 
because I haven't seen any replies on the list.
-Barrett

Andreas Ehn wrote:
Hi,
I'm looking for a webcam for video-conferencing that is well-supported
by Debian sid. I will probably have to go for a USB model, since my
laptop only provides unpowered IEEE 1394 (FireWire). Do you have any
recommendations?
Is a camera with an autofocus lens worth the extra money?
Thanks in advance for all input!
Best regards,
Andreas
 


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Re: Multiple installed kernel-image packages?

2004-12-29 Thread CW Harris
On Wed, Dec 29, 2004 at 12:33:14PM -0500, William Ballard wrote:
> On Wed, Dec 29, 2004 at 10:19:23AM -0700, CW Harris wrote:
> > There are source packages kernel-latest-{version}-{arch}.  Is  this what
> > you are looking for? (E.g. kernel-latest-2.6-i386)
> 
> Do you mean kernel-source-2.6?

No.

> 
> There are no packages named kernel-latest-* in the repository.

Okay. This is what I did. I noticed in the description of
kernel-image-2.6-686:

$ apt-cache show kernel-image-2.6-686
Package: kernel-image-2.6-686
Priority: optional
Section: base
[...]
Source: kernel-latest-2.6-i386
   This.
Version: 100
Depends: kernel-image-2.6.8-1-686
[...]

So I searched package source names on packages.debian.org (since I don't
have any source lines in my apt setup on this machine). And it returned
information on packages like kernel-latest-2.6-i386, as I described in
my email to this list.

In response to your statement I now added a sarge src line to my apt
config, and:

$ apt-cache showsrc kernel-latest-2.6-i386
Package: kernel-latest-2.6-i386
Binary: kernel-headers-2.6-k7, kernel-image-2.6-686,
kernel-image-2.6-k7-smp, kernel-image-2.6-386,
kernel-image-2.6-686-smp, kernel-headers-2.6-686,
kernel-headers-2.6-386, kernel-image-2.6-k7,
kernel-headers-2.6-k7-smp, kernel-headers-2.6-686-smp
Version: 100
Priority: optional
Section: devel
Maintainer: Debian kernel team <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Build-Depends: debhelper (>= 4)
Architecture: i386
Standards-Version: 3.6.1
Format: 1.0
Directory: pool/main/k/kernel-latest-2.6-i386
Files:
 375238fac45257cff33b5ef47c1a1fd0 1542 kernel-latest-2.6-i386_100.dsc
 e0eab2db85dee02b8a40c9ae0c1c86c8 2149 kernel-latest-2.6-i386_100.tar.gz
Uploaders: William Lee Irwin III <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Andres Salomon
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>


However the apt-cache search kernel-latest doesn't seem to find any
returns for kernel-latest, so I guess kernel-latest is a strange type of
package.  I guess we need some clues from the repository team?

HTH

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ide-scsi with 2 drives

2004-12-29 Thread Robert Epprecht
Hello

Up to now I had one hd and one dvd writer and everything worked fine.
Now I have added a second hd and a dvd rom drive:

/dev/hda   hd
/dev/hdb   dvd writer
/dev/hdc   hd
/dev/hdd   dvd rom

A short test with another OS (no, it's debian woody ;-) without ide-scsi
seems to do fine with all of them.

The trouble starts when I want to use ide-scsi to burn cds or dvds.
This time I boot sid (but I don't think this makes the difference)
with 'hdb=ide-scsi' as kernel parameter in grub menu.lst (it's a 2.4.24
kernel). I can mount the dvd writer as /dev/scd0, but I cannot mount
/dev/hdd. I tried /dev/scd1, which (to my big surprise) mounts the
same drive as /dev/scd0.

I have tried appending 'hdb=ide-scsi hdd=ide-scsi' as kernel parameters,
and a couple of other things, but had no success yet. I must be doing
something wrong...

So before I post error messages of everything I tried please tell me
what kernel parameters (and syntax) I should try in grub.

BTW: I do not really care if /dev/hdd (the dvd rom) runs with
 ide-scsi or without, as long as it works.

Thanks a lot for any help,
Robert Epprecht.


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When the thread wanders too far

2004-12-29 Thread Antonio Rodriguez
I think it would be wise to implement a way of stopping a thread at
the top level when it goes to far off topic. It has been the case is
several of them very recently. In the last DWN there are some
references about it, with some propositions about implementing a list
moderator I think. It is putting an extra load on many of the users,
and its making some to consider unsubscribing. Any ideas?


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[[offlist] Re: [Way off topic] the Quran

2004-12-29 Thread Roberto Sanchez
Syed Huq wrote:
The Muslims believe in a conecpt of "nullification" (I forget the
correct term) that essentially states that later verses in the Quran
that contradict with earlier verses, contradict or "trump" the earlier
verses.  Read the book I mention above and you will see what I mean.
The Quran directly contradicts itself and parts of Hadith contradict
what the Quran says.
-Roberto Sanchez

This is absolute "bullshit" to be precise. There is "no" piece of the Quran OR
the Hadith that ever contradicts each other. Infact, it "compliments"
each other in many respect. Why not read the original Quran and the
Hadith and draw your
conclusion instead of 'one man's interpretationwhich is as I said
is pure bull.
- Rathon

Then why do early verses in the Quran say that Jews and Christians
(people of the Book) or OK and can continue practicing their
religion and later say that they must be converted?  That would
seem like a contradiction to me.
Here you go:
Surah 2:62:
"Surely, those who believe, those who are Jewish, the Christians, and
the converts; anyone who (1) believes in GOD, and (2) believes in the
Last Day, and (3) leads a righteous life, will receive their recompense
from their Lord. They have nothing to fear, nor will they grieve."
Seems to me like Jews and Christians are OK.
Surah 5:82:
"You will find that the worst enemies of the believers are the Jews and
the idol worshipers. And you will find that the closest people in
friendship to the believers are those who say, "We are Christian." This
is because they have priests and monks among them, and they are not
arrogant."
Oops.  The Jews are not longer so friendly.
If that is not a contradiction, then I don't know what is.
-Roberto


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Re: When the thread wanders too far

2004-12-29 Thread Paul Johnson
On Wednesday 29 December 2004 11:35 am, Antonio Rodriguez wrote:
> I think it would be wise to implement a way of stopping a thread at
> the top level when it goes to far off topic. It has been the case is
> several of them very recently. In the last DWN there are some
> references about it, with some propositions about implementing a list
> moderator I think. It is putting an extra load on many of the users,
> and its making some to consider unsubscribing. Any ideas?

Learn your tools.  Server-side filtering is common, as is filtering by 
thread.  Problem solved.

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Re: Multiple installed kernel-image packages?

2004-12-29 Thread CW Harris
On Wed, Dec 29, 2004 at 12:31:33PM -0700, CW Harris wrote:
> On Wed, Dec 29, 2004 at 12:33:14PM -0500, William Ballard wrote:
> > On Wed, Dec 29, 2004 at 10:19:23AM -0700, CW Harris wrote:
> > > There are source packages kernel-latest-{version}-{arch}.  Is  this what
> > > you are looking for? (E.g. kernel-latest-2.6-i386)
> > 

Following up on this a bit more... 

I don't know what kernel-latest-2.6-i386 is (maybe patches?) but it is
definitely too small to be the full kernel source.

$ apt-get -s source kernel-latest-2.6-i386
Reading Package Lists...
Building Dependency Tree...
Need to get 3691B of source archives.
Fetch Source kernel-latest-2.6-i386

Sorry for the trouble. Maybe these are just packages the maintainers use
to keep things up to date (since they don't show up properly in
searches).


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Re: When the thread wanders too far

2004-12-29 Thread William Ballard
On Wed, Dec 29, 2004 at 02:35:41PM -0500, Antonio Rodriguez wrote:
> I think it would be wise to implement a way of stopping a thread at
> the top level when it goes to far off topic. It has been the case is
> several of them very recently. In the last DWN there are some
> references about it, with some propositions about implementing a list
> moderator I think. It is putting an extra load on many of the users,
> and its making some to consider unsubscribing. Any ideas?

I think a moderator is a horrible idea but I don't like the OT threads,
although I jump in them sometimes, I *try* to stay away.

Perhaps when a thread has clearly left the building the servers could 
just deliver those messages much more slowly -- which would have a 
dampening effect on it without becoming the Draconian Police State that 
is a moderated list.  Not just ordinary OT, but when it gets like the 
ubuntu one did.  Or it could automatically deliver such messages to 
debian-curiosa.

I hate the kabuki dance one gets into on moderated IRC channels and 
lists.  That's why Stallman left his password blank.


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Re: [[offlist] Re: [Way off topic] the Quran

2004-12-29 Thread Syed Huq
> Then why do early verses in the Quran say that Jews and Christians
> (people of the Book) or OK and can continue practicing their
> religion and later say that they must be converted?  That would
> seem like a contradiction to me.
> 

The Quran considers Jews and Christians as people of the Book because
Allah had given them the Torah and the Bible(which got corrupted by
man). Also, Islam believes in the same prophets as Abraham, Moses and
Jesus(Prophet Isa). There are "NO" mentions in the Quran to convert
anyone. Infact conversion to religion is forbidden in Islam. One may
preach Islam to any and all and it is left upto the receipient to make
his/her own decision.


> Here you go:
> 
> Surah 2:62:
> 
> "Surely, those who believe, those who are Jewish, the Christians, and
> the converts; anyone who (1) believes in GOD, and (2) believes in the
> Last Day, and (3) leads a righteous life, will receive their recompense
> from their Lord. They have nothing to fear, nor will they grieve."
> 
> Seems to me like Jews and Christians are OK.
> 
> Surah 5:82:
> 
> "You will find that the worst enemies of the believers are the Jews and
> the idol worshipers. And you will find that the closest people in
> friendship to the believers are those who say, "We are Christian." This
> is because they have priests and monks among them, and they are not
> arrogant."
> 
> Oops.  The Jews are not longer so friendly.
> 
> If that is not a contradiction, then I don't know what is.
> 

What you are doing is quoting bits and pieces from here and there and
trying to make a contradiction. Read Surah 5:81 the verse above the
one you had quoted:

"If they believed in Allah and the Prophet and that is which is
revealed unto him, they would not choose them for their friends. But
many of them are of evil conduct.
5:81"

Because Jews and Christians do not believe in the last
prophet(Muhammad(pbuh), they are 'not in the right path' anymore. So
even though they are people of the book, they are still the wrong
doers, evil conduct etc etc etc

So your own bits-an-pieces-interpretation is causing this contraction.
You should read the entire Surah and then understand what is being
said.

Peace be upon you my friend..
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Re: [[offlist] Re: [Way off topic] the Quran

2004-12-29 Thread Roberto Sanchez
Syed Huq wrote:
Then why do early verses in the Quran say that Jews and Christians
(people of the Book) or OK and can continue practicing their
religion and later say that they must be converted?  That would
seem like a contradiction to me.

The Quran considers Jews and Christians as people of the Book because
Allah had given them the Torah and the Bible(which got corrupted by
man). Also, Islam believes in the same prophets as Abraham, Moses and
Jesus(Prophet Isa). There are "NO" mentions in the Quran to convert
anyone. Infact conversion to religion is forbidden in Islam. One may
preach Islam to any and all and it is left upto the receipient to make
his/her own decision.

Here you go:
Surah 2:62:
"Surely, those who believe, those who are Jewish, the Christians, and
the converts; anyone who (1) believes in GOD, and (2) believes in the
Last Day, and (3) leads a righteous life, will receive their recompense
from their Lord. They have nothing to fear, nor will they grieve."
Seems to me like Jews and Christians are OK.
Surah 5:82:
"You will find that the worst enemies of the believers are the Jews and
the idol worshipers. And you will find that the closest people in
friendship to the believers are those who say, "We are Christian." This
is because they have priests and monks among them, and they are not
arrogant."
Oops.  The Jews are not longer so friendly.
If that is not a contradiction, then I don't know what is.

What you are doing is quoting bits and pieces from here and there and
trying to make a contradiction. Read Surah 5:81 the verse above the
one you had quoted:
"If they believed in Allah and the Prophet and that is which is
revealed unto him, they would not choose them for their friends. But
many of them are of evil conduct.
5:81"
OK.  This makes sense.
Because Jews and Christians do not believe in the last
prophet(Muhammad(pbuh), they are 'not in the right path' anymore. So
even though they are people of the book, they are still the wrong
doers, evil conduct etc etc etc
This also makes sense.
So your own bits-an-pieces-interpretation is causing this contraction.
You should read the entire Surah and then understand what is being
said.
This does not make sense.  You completely avoid the fact that Surah 2:62
says that "they have nothing to fear."  So, is a Jews or a Crhsitian on
the right path as Surah 2:62 indicates if he "(1) believes in GOD, and
(2) believes in the Last Day, and (3) leads a righteous life ..." OR
is he "not on the right path" as you say Surah 5:81,82 indicates?
Again, thank you for your explanation of Surah 5:81,82.  This clarifies
that particular point for me, but fails to address the contradiction.
Peace be upon you my friend..
And peace be unto you.
- Rathon
-Roberto


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Re: [Way off topic] the politics of ubuntu.org

2004-12-29 Thread Ron Johnson
On Wed, 2004-12-29 at 08:49 +0100, Pascal Bonesh wrote:
> On Tue, 2004-12-28 at 21:26 -0500, William Ballard wrote:
> 
[snip]
> 
> What a wonderful world it would be if all people would just throw away
> their holy books and start thinking and acting as humans.

But "man created God in his own image", so they *are* acting as
humans, you nit wit.

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pppd: CHAP authentication failed

2004-12-29 Thread Mauro Darida
Hello,
I am experiencing a weird thing: I have got KDE kppp perfectly working
but when it comes to use pppd directly with the pon script even from
root pppd won't start. I have the following /var/log/ppp.log:

Dec 29 19:49:50 ifi pppd[1302]: pppd 2.4.1 started by root, uid 0
Dec 29 19:49:50 ifi pppd[1302]: Serial connection established.
Dec 29 19:49:50 ifi pppd[1302]: Using interface ppp0
Dec 29 19:49:50 ifi pppd[1302]: Connect: ppp0 <--> /dev/pts/5
Dec 29 19:50:22 ifi pppd[1302]: LCP: timeout sending Config-Requests
Dec 29 19:50:22 ifi pppd[1302]: Connection terminated.
Dec 29 19:50:52 ifi pppd[1302]: Serial connection established.
Dec 29 19:50:52 ifi pppd[1302]: Using interface ppp0
Dec 29 19:50:52 ifi pppd[1302]: Connect: ppp0 <--> /dev/pts/0
Dec 29 19:51:23 ifi pppd[1302]: LCP: timeout sending Config-Requests 
Dec 29 19:51:23 ifi pppd[1302]: Connection terminated.
Dec 29 19:51:53 ifi pppd[1302]: Serial connection established.
Dec 29 19:51:53 ifi pppd[1302]: Using interface ppp0
Dec 29 19:51:53 ifi pppd[1302]: Connect: ppp0 <--> /dev/pts/5
Dec 29 19:52:24 ifi pppd[1302]: LCP: timeout sending Config-Requests
Dec 29 19:52:24 ifi pppd[1302]: Connection terminated.
Dec 29 20:40:02 ifi pppd[793]: pppd 2.4.1 started by root, uid 0
Dec 29 20:40:05 ifi chat[798]: abort on (BUSY)
Dec 29 20:40:05 ifi chat[798]: abort on (NO CARRIER)
Dec 29 20:40:05 ifi chat[798]: abort on (VOICE)
Dec 29 20:40:05 ifi chat[798]: abort on (NO DIALTONE)
Dec 29 20:40:05 ifi chat[798]: abort on (NO DIAL TONE)
Dec 29 20:40:05 ifi chat[798]: abort on (NO ANSWER)
Dec 29 20:40:05 ifi chat[798]: abort on (DELAYED)
Dec 29 20:40:05 ifi chat[798]: send (ATZ^M)
Dec 29 20:40:05 ifi chat[798]: expect (OK)
Dec 29 20:40:05 ifi chat[798]: ATZ^M^M
Dec 29 20:40:05 ifi chat[798]: OK
Dec 29 20:40:05 ifi chat[798]:  -- got it
Dec 29 20:40:05 ifi chat[798]: send (ATDT7020001033^M)
Dec 29 20:40:05 ifi chat[798]: expect (CONNECT)
Dec 29 20:40:05 ifi chat[798]: ^M
Dec 29 20:40:27 ifi chat[798]: ATDT7020001033^M^M
Dec 29 20:40:27 ifi chat[798]: CONNECT
Dec 29 20:40:27 ifi chat[798]:  -- got it
Dec 29 20:40:27 ifi chat[798]: send (\d)
Dec 29 20:40:28 ifi pppd[793]: Serial connection established.
Dec 29 20:40:28 ifi pppd[793]: using channel 1
Dec 29 20:40:28 ifi pppd[793]: Using interface ppp0
Dec 29 20:40:28 ifi pppd[793]: Connect: ppp0 <--> /dev/ttySHSF0
Dec 29 20:40:29 ifi pppd[793]: sent [LCP ConfReq id=0x1 
  ]
Dec 29 20:40:30 ifi pppd[793]: rcvd [LCP ConfReq id=0x1 

]
Dec 29 20:40:30 ifi pppd[793]: sent [LCP ConfRej id=0x1 ]
Dec 29 20:40:30 ifi pppd[793]: rcvd [LCP ConfAck id=0x1 
  ]
Dec 29 20:40:30 ifi pppd[793]: rcvd [LCP ConfReq id=0x2 
]
Dec 29 20:40:30 ifi pppd[793]: sent [LCP ConfAck id=0x2 
]
Dec 29 20:40:30 ifi pppd[793]: sent [LCP EchoReq id=0x0
magic=0x67fdddb6]
Dec 29 20:40:30 ifi pppd[793]: rcvd [CHAP Challenge id=0x1
<67ebcc8735df1478486093c19f9e869c>, name = "apx-na1"]
Dec 29 20:40:30 ifi pppd[793]: sent [CHAP Response id=0x1
<8b7464067e56bd43969a6f290ef2e077>, name = "robert210"]
Dec 29 20:40:30 ifi pppd[793]: rcvd [LCP EchoRep id=0x0 magic=0x0]
Dec 29 20:40:31 ifi pppd[793]: rcvd [CHAP Failure id=0x1 "\000"]
Dec 29 20:40:31 ifi pppd[793]: Remote message: ^@
Dec 29 20:40:31 ifi pppd[793]: CHAP authentication failed
Dec 29 20:40:31 ifi pppd[793]: sent [LCP TermReq id=0x2 "Failed to
authenticate ourselves to peer"]
Dec 29 20:40:31 ifi pppd[793]: rcvd [LCP TermAck id=0x2]
Dec 29 20:40:31 ifi pppd[793]: Connection terminated.
Dec 29 20:40:31 ifi pppd[793]: Hangup (SIGHUP)
Dec 29 20:40:31 ifi pppd[793]: Exit.

Any clue?

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Re: Exim4 config help request

2004-12-29 Thread Joe
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Ishwar Rattan 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes
I just installed ProMepis and it installs by default exim4
SMTP service. I am looking for a simple working configuration for
exim4 (I have been using Sendmail and have tried Postfix too!).
Requirements is that it should send to and receive from remote
domains (office box connected to Internet via LAN). The error
message sent back by exim is:
 ...
 Mailing to remote domains is not supported
in fact, it does not send to another machine in the same domain!
Any pointers will be appreciated.
Try dpkg-reconfigure exim4-config. Tell it you want to send and receive 
by SMTP and give it the appropriate domain name(s). Tell it which 
domains/IP ranges you want it to relay mail for (probably just the local 
network) and what interfaces to listen on (localhost and the NIC).

Oh, tell it you want to keep the single config file. Afterwards, look at 
/etc/exim4/update-exim4.conf.conf. Yes, that's two 'conf's. You can just 
edit this file by hand and run update-exim4.conf, or use the dpkg 
command again.
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Re: When the thread wanders too far

2004-12-29 Thread Brendan
On Wednesday 29 December 2004 14:35, Antonio Rodriguez wrote:
> I think it would be wise to implement a way of stopping a thread at
> the top level when it goes to far off topic. It has been the case is
> several of them very recently. In the last DWN there are some
> references about it, with some propositions about implementing a list
> moderator I think. It is putting an extra load on many of the users,
> and its making some to consider unsubscribing. Any ideas?

Blah. If no one answers a thread, then it does not continue.
If you don't like it, don't answer it and filter it. The tools are in your 
hands.
You've got to be a socialist. ;-)


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Re: Installation

2004-12-29 Thread YH
Thanks Dani, that fixed the the permission denied error, but actually, 
it came another "No such device" error message:

Sound Server information Message:
Error while initializing the sound driver, device /dev/dsp can't be 
opened (No such device). The sound server will continue, using the null 
output device.

Seems I am still missing something here?
Thank you.
Yuja
Dani Belz wrote:
On Wed, Dec 29, 2004 at 10:28:40PM +1300, YH wrote:
Thanks Dani. At my user log in, I typed:
debian$ echo $USER
debian$ yuja
debian$ groups
debian$ yuja
Then I typed at root:
root$ adduser $USER audio
root$ you're done

you now added root to group audio! You have to
$ adduser yuja audio
:)
grZ
Dani

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cannot open root device "801"

2004-12-29 Thread Eric N. Valor

Hello.

I recently recompiled my 2.6.8 kernel.  Now I can no longer boot my
system. It fails with the message "cannot open root device "801" or
unknown-block(8,1)".

I am using a Symbios SCSI card without any IDE devices (save the CDROM)
in my system.  My lilo.conf properly identifies the boot device and root
device ("boot=/dev/sda" and "root=/dev/sda1").  The SCSI drivers are
compiled directly into the kernel, and the devices are all seen on
bootup.

My previous 2.6.8 kernel boots, but not this one.  The only change I
made was to enable HFS filesystem (so I can play with my new iPod).

Any ideas? 

Please respond directly as I am not monitoring the list (but do, of
course, CC: the list).

Thank you.


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