Re: protecting a colour printer

[Henrique de Moraes Holschuh]

On Fri, 19 Nov 2004, martin f krafft wrote:
> So I am wondering what some strategies would look like to make sure
> they print b/w instead. We do not have a username or machine policy,
> so we cannot work with lpd accounting. Some approaches that have
> come to my mind:

Add username and machine policy, and blame it on the people who used the
printer in an irresponsible way.  Double win :-)   Then, add pykota to CUPS
and charge their bottoms off if they print too much on the color printer.

>   - use a web interface to require prior authorisation... having to
> visit a page and entering some text will likely deter people. is
> there something out there that does this? can cups do this?

CUPS can do it.  Just firewall away all means of accepting a print job
directly, and tell CUPS to require autorization to access the URLs.

For maximum effect, add a cronjob that changes the password every 2 minutes,
and shows a hint of what the new password is (preferably, a math expression
to annoy people even more, or maybe even riddles :P) as the authentication
domain.  This will also kill any winblows user attempts to use IPP directly
over http...

>   - is there an accounter per IP address that we could install on
> the print server?

I believe this is doable, get pykota and enhance it :)  but people will
change IP addresses if they have that capability.

> What are your experiences?

Add usernames, passwords and printer accounting.  It does not penalize
people who are not the problem...  anything else is BOFH land, really.  And
it will be useful later, if you need to control something else.

If you're in a corporate environment, print nice usage graphs with costs in
$ and send that to management.  If in a student environment, require payment
for every page printed, and charge 3 times more for pages on the color
printer.  I have seen both being done, and both worked just fine.  Just
don't charge the students too much.

-- 
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  them all and in the darkness grind them. In the Land of Redmond
  where the shadows lie." -- The Silicon Valley Tarot
  Henrique Holschuh


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Re: Root on RAID 5 + LVM will only boot in degraded mode

[Dag Sverre Seljebotn]

> >Nov 18 19:15:49 localhost kernel: SCSI device sda: 390721968 512-byte
> >hdwr sectors (200050 MB)
> >Nov 18 19:15:49 localhost kernel: Partition check:
> >Nov 18 19:15:49 localhost kernel:  /dev/scsi/host0/bus0/target0/lun0: p1
> >p2
> >Nov 18 19:15:49 localhost kernel: SCSI device sdb: 390721968 512-byte
> >hdwr sectors (200050 MB)
> >Nov 18 19:15:49 localhost kernel:  /dev/scsi/host1/bus0/target0/lun0: p1
> >p2
> >... the rest of the disks in the same manner
> >Nov 18 19:15:49 localhost kernel: md0: former device
> >scsi/host1/bus0/target0/lun0/part2 is unavailable, removing from array!
> >... starting to recover array, but no spare disks found
> >
> Seems to me your disks are not detected at the same time by the system

Explain, not sure I know what you mean... I did cut out the last four
disks in order to not make my post too long. They are all detected, in
the same way that the first two are. Then after all six are detected, I
get the md0 error you see.

// Dag Sverre


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Re: Root on RAID 5 + LVM will only boot in degraded mode

[Laurent CARON]

Dag Sverre Seljebotn wrote:
Nov 18 19:15:49 localhost kernel: SCSI device sda: 390721968 512-byte
hdwr sectors (200050 MB)
Nov 18 19:15:49 localhost kernel: Partition check:
Nov 18 19:15:49 localhost kernel:  /dev/scsi/host0/bus0/target0/lun0: p1
p2
Nov 18 19:15:49 localhost kernel: SCSI device sdb: 390721968 512-byte
hdwr sectors (200050 MB)
Nov 18 19:15:49 localhost kernel:  /dev/scsi/host1/bus0/target0/lun0: p1
p2
... the rest of the disks in the same manner
Nov 18 19:15:49 localhost kernel: md0: former device
scsi/host1/bus0/target0/lun0/part2 is unavailable, removing from array!
... starting to recover array, but no spare disks found
 

Seems to me your disks are not detected at the same time by the system
   

Explain, not sure I know what you mean... I did cut out the last four
disks in order to not make my post too long. They are all detected, in
the same way that the first two are. Then after all six are detected, I
get the md0 error you see.
// Dag Sverre
 

I mean the missing disk seems to be detected after the md0 creation
right?
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Re: Newbie looking for some answers please...........

[Chris Lale]

On Thu, 2004-11-18 at 17:17, Chad wrote:
> I just installed Debian 3.0 r3. I'm a newbie and looking for some
> anwers to some of my questions...if someone can anwser one, some, or
> all Please
> 
> 1. I know that apt-get is the main utility to add and remove programs
> (in Debian anyways), also to veiw what is installed on your OS. But
> what about other packages or applications that are not installed
> through apt-get. 

You can find unofficial .deb packages in many places, eg
www.apt-get.org. Add your chosen source to /etc/apt/sources.list and run
apt-get update, or use Synaptic: Settings -> Repositories then Edit ->
Reload Package List.

You can convert rpm packages using alien.

You can install from source packages (tarballs). Use installwatch to log
the changes made to your system and backup altered files. Alternatively,
use checkinstall to create a pseudo .deb package and install that
(http://newbiedoc.sourceforge.net/system/checkinstall.html.en). Removing
the pseudo .deb later leaves your system completely clean.

Chris.
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Re: mutt + squirrelmail

[Richard Lyons]

On Thursday 18 November 2004 13:28, Richard Lyons wrote:
> On Thursday 18 November 2004 12:02, Maurits van Rees wrote:
> > On Thu, Nov 18, 2004 at 10:34:41AM +, Richard Lyons wrote:
> > > Do mutts and squirrels play together?
> > > 
> > > Imap access has become sooo slw using kmail (seems even slower 
> since 
> > > my most recent upgrade on my desktop box - sid, BTW) and it is 
> > > sometimes as bad using squirrelmail.  So I ssh-d to the server and 
> > > tried mutt.  As far as I can tell, mutt cannot see subfolders that 
> > > squirrelmail and kmail can.  
> > 
> > I use both (almost exclusively mutt though) and don't seem to have
> > those problems, but I haven't really checked. But your problem may 
be
> > solved with the following snippet from the mutt doc:
> > 
> >   6.3.85.  imap_list_subscribed
> > 
> >   Type: boolean
> >   Default: no
> > 
> >   This variable configures whether IMAP folder browsing will look 
for
> >   only subscribed folders or all folders.  This can be toggled in 
the
> >   IMAP browser with the toggle-subscribed function.
> 
> Aah!  That looks likely.  I'll check when I get back later.  THanks.

Update:

I thought I had got mutt working, on the local box using imap (with the 
help of http://mutt.sourceforge.net/imap/ and other help found on 
google.  But writing a muttrc from scratch is seriously unsympathetic, 
not to say hostile, and it would apparently take days to learn enough 
to get it running properly.  Problems I encountered include:

 -  The presence of sub-folders prevents mutt seeing mail in a folder, 
so for example I had to rename lists.du.keep to lists.du-keep so as
to read the contents of lists.du.  

 -  Moving mail from INBOX to other folders fails for lack of 
permissions apparently.

 -  Because of the subfolder problem, and because kmail/squirrelmail 
expect folders to be inside INBOX, the INBOX can only be read in 
mutt at startup.  Once you move into another folder, returning to 
the top of the tree only shows the folders below it and not the
contents of INBOX itself.  So it is necessary to exit mutt and log
on again to see new mail.

 -  Mutt sends mail by some other route, evidently, because what I send
from it disappears without trace.  Well, probably there is a trace
if I knew where to look.  What I mean is, it doesn't default to 
something that works

 -  Mutt's display gets out of sync by a line some of the time, so that 
it is easy to delete the wrong message by mistake.  Even if you  
notice the error in time, it is difficult to scroll back to correct
the problem because it skips the messages marked for deletion.

 -  Mutt does not display accents pound signs, euro signs etc.  I don't 
mind writing messages in vim, except that this too fails to insert
accented characters correctly (usually adds a space after them, and
refuses to produce some, such as Ç (capital c-cedilla, in case that
fails to reproduce).

An interesting thing that mutt revealed is that the certificate that 
Courier seems to have produced at install time with a generic domain 
name.  Kmail and squirrelmail do not seem to worry about this.  When I 
have time, I shall have to investigate how to correct it.

All in all, an interesting experiment, but not a solution that is 
accessible for an inexpert user like me.  So, for now at least, I shall 
have to return to kmail and squirrelmail.  Both are slow and Kmail in 
particular takes several minutes to access the imap server sometimes, 
but at least they do work eventually.  If they become too slow to work 
with, I shall need to return to POP3 mode (which entails copying my 
Maildir to a smartmedia card every time I travel).

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Re: Sarge questions on aptitude and GRUB

[Chris Lale]

On Fri, 2004-11-19 at 09:26, Mauro Darida wrote:
> Some questions on coming Sarge release:
> 1. I know GRUB will be the default: will make-kpkg support it?

Yes. When you compile a kernel it updates grub's menu.lst automatically.

Chris.
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Re: print to a Windows machine's printer

[michael]

Pascal Bonesh wrote:

Hi Michael,
to make this a bit more verbose:
-point your browser to http://localhost:631, that's the cups
administration
-click on 'printers', then click on 'add printer'
-give it a name and such and click next
-choose 'Windows Printer via Samba'
-write the URI in the field - that's something like:
smb://user:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/server/sharename
of course user means your username for windows which shares the printer,
pass is the password, the rest should be clear and can be seen in the
system thingy in the win control panel
-choose the printer and driver
of course samba and cups need to be installed and the printer of the
windows box needs to be supported by cups
pascal
And from the CUPS manual pages it implies it has to be a WinNT box off
which the printer is hanging! So I'm currently awaiting info on where
there is such a box on my network before I can progress this. (It sounds
much easier just to buy a laser and put on my Debian box but will it be
supported if it's a PostScript printer but not listed on the linux printer
page (not got the URL to hand)?)
Ta, M

IMHO it works from WinNT on up. I tried it on a XP machine at work with
a supported printer (postscript) and it worked out of the box.
Just try it - if you get the URI right then it should work.
pascal
okay, now this time I am being really thick: when I try and use said (ie 
the admin) interface it asks for a username/password but it's not my 
login (& I'm reluctant to type in the root info!) so what is it?

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Mail login

[Elias Obudho]

Hi,

I have a mail account with the Uinversity of Nairobi.
My problem is that for some computers whenever I try
to loin I get a message of "Unknown user or password
is uncorrect".  This happens before typing my
password. I cannot log in since the login page does
not come.

Can you help me please.

Regards,

Elias





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Re: Creative SoundBlaster Live! - how to get it working?

[michael]

John covici wrote:
You should do a lspci -v and make sure you really have a sound blaster
live -- it should tell you its identity.  If you can't modprobe
emu10k1, my guess is that you do not have that chip.
Interesting! That comes up with
:04:04.0 Multimedia audio controller: Creative Labs SB Audigy LS
Subsystem: Creative Labs: Unknown device 1006
Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 64, IRQ 21
I/O ports at e480 [size=32]
Capabilities: [dc] Power Management version 2
But I saw the guy put the card in and the box here definitely says 
''Sound Blaster Live! 24 bit'' all over it

Make sure its the correct version for the kernel as well.
Mmmm. how do I check that?
Cheers, Michael
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Re: Creative SoundBlaster Live! - how to get it working?

[michael]

robin wrote:
> michael wrote:
>
>> robin wrote:
>>
>>> michael wrote:
>>>
 robin wrote:

> michael wrote:
>
>> michael wrote:
>>
>>> robin wrote:
>>>
 michael wrote:

> I've looked but can't find anything that definitely explains 
this, so...
>
> I have a new Creative SoundBlaster Live! 24 bit sound card in 
my machine (dual Xeon box). The card works - heard it when booted WinXP. 
However, I can make no headway on getting sounds from it when I boot in 
to my Linux
> partition. I have done a 'apt-get install alsa' but that 
doesn't seem to have changed anything. All solutions are most welcome! 
And here's what I
> believe is sufficient information for people to answer this 
for me! TIA.
>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ uname -a;sudo lsmod
> Linux ratty 2.4.27-1-686-smp #1 SMP Fri Sep 3 06:34:36 UTC 
2004 i686 GNU/Linux
> Module  Size  Used byNot tainted
> floppy 52184   0  (autoclean)
> soundcore   4420   0  (autoclean)
> input   3872   0  (autoclean)
> lp  6916   0
> parport27944   0  [lp]
> af_packet  14472   1  (autoclean)
> uhci   27100   0  (unused)
> hw_random   2876   0  (unused)
> i810_rng2788   0  (unused)
> ehci-hcd   18924   0  (unused)
> usbcore65804   1  [uhci ehci-hcd]
> ide-scsi   10192   0
> scsi_mod   97732   1  [ide-scsi]
> e1000  68844   1
> ide-cd 31328   0
> cdrom  30080   0  [ide-cd]
> rtc 7112   0  (autoclean)
> ext3   84748   7  (autoclean)
> jbd46200   7  (autoclean) [ext3]
> ide-detect   288   0  (autoclean) (unused)
> piix9128   2  (autoclean)
> ide-disk   16960   8  (autoclean)
> ide-core  112184   8  (autoclean) [ide-scsi 
ide-cd ide-detect piix ide-disk]
> unix   16784 221  (autoclean)
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$
>
>
 Hi

 Try running alsaconf to set up the alsa sound modules.

 Robin


>>> That comes up with:
>>> No supported PnP or PCI card found.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> I should also have said the console gets the message:
>> [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/src$ sudo alsaconf
>> modinfo: snd: no module by that name found
>> modinfo: snd: no module by that name found
>> modinfo: snd: no module by that name found
>>
>>
> Not sure which module it is so check 
http://www.alsa-project.org/alsa-doc/  soundcard matrix and then
> e.g.
>
> modprobe  snd-ens1371
>
> replacing, if necessary, snd-ens1371 with the correct module.
> If there are any error messages post them here.
> Also which kernel version are you running as there was an issue 
with some 2.6 kernels with OSS grabbing the sound card before Alsa.
>

 Okay, it seems to be module emu10k1 that I require but I get:

 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/src$ sudo modprobe emu10k1
 
/lib/modules/2.4.27-1-686-smp/kernel/drivers/sound/emu10k1/emu10k1.o: 
init_module: No such device
 Hint: insmod errors can be caused by incorrect module parameters, 
including invalid IO or IRQ parameters.
   You may find more information in syslog or the output from dmesg
 
/lib/modules/2.4.27-1-686-smp/kernel/drivers/sound/emu10k1/emu10k1.o: 
insmod 
/lib/modules/2.4.27-1-686-smp/kernel/drivers/sound/emu10k1/emu10k1.o failed
 
/lib/modules/2.4.27-1-686-smp/kernel/drivers/sound/emu10k1/emu10k1.o: 
insmod emu10k1 failed

 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/src$ dmesg|tail
 Floppy drive(s): fd0 is 1.44M
 FDC 0 is a National Semiconductor PC87306
 Creative EMU10K1 PCI Audio Driver, version 0.20, 06:37:07 Sep  3 2004
 isapnp: Scanning for PnP cards...
 isapnp: No Plug & Play device found
 isapnp: Scanning for PnP cards...
 isapnp: No Plug & Play device found
 isapnp: Scanning for PnP cards...
 isapnp: No Plug & Play device found
 Creative EMU10K1 PCI Audio Driver, version 0.20, 06:37:07 Sep  3 2004
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/src$ uname -a
 Linux ratty 2.4.27-1-686-smp #1 SMP Fri Sep 3 06:34:36 UTC 2004 
i686 GNU/Linux
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/src$


 Thanks for helping me through this!
 Michael


>>> See 
http://www.mail-archive.com/debian-user@lists.debian.org/msg120316.html 
for 2.6 details.
>>> Do you have alsa-modules-2.4.27-1-686-smp installed?
>>>
>>
>> It's been a long day (that's my excuse & it also means I ca

Re: printing from firefox

[David]

On Thu, Nov 18, 2004 at 11:51:12AM -0500, Kenneth Jacker wrote:
> [Sarge/testing, mozilla-firefox 1.0-2, cupsys- 1.1.20final+rc1-10]
> 
> Old problem
> ---
> I have tried about everything (including changing margin settings in
> the "page setup" dialog, examining possible options in "about:config",
> etc.), but still cannot get the "headers/footers" to appear in printed
> web pages.  They show up in "print preview" -- at the very edge of the
> image -- but don't make it to the *printed* page(s).
> 
> Needless to say, printing headers & footers is a very important
> capability of my preferred browser: Firefox!

I use Mozilla and have noticed a similar problem.  I'll present my
observations in this regard.

Actually, this problem has existed for me for several versions back.  My
printer is an HP DJ660, and it has an unprintable area at the top and
the bottom, and I've come to the conclusion that Mozilla (or CUPS)
doesn't take this into account.

There are two places where you can set up the margins..  From the Files
menu->Page setup, but this doesn't seem to affect the overall margin.  I
suspect that this determines the _TEXT_ margins.  You can also set
margins from the Print Menu itself by clicking the "Options" button.
And I believe that here is where the margins are actually determined.

For my printer, a top margin of about .35" fixes the header, but the
bottom margin seems to need a lot more.  For some reason, the entry
boxes won't accept anything greater than 0.50".  If I type in .7, it
immediately reverts back to .5.  However, what I did was edit the
following line in "prefs.js" to look like this:

user_pref("print.printer_PostScript/default.print_edge_bottom", 75);

I now get my footer (I had to increase the bottom margin in the
"Files->Page Setup" menu to get some space between the bottom of the
text and the footer.

Again, this is Mozilla, but perhaps firefox works the same way.


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Re: mutt skipping messages and the concept of threads

[Maurits van Rees]

On Fri, Nov 19, 2004 at 01:17:37AM -0700, Sean wrote:
> I somehow deleted a mesage from someone who only sent me one message and 
> I did this by just deleting message by thread where I deleted all 
> messages in a thread.  What makes up a thread?  Also I guess it's 
> actually skipping certain messages and not popping them off the server.  
> What could be causing this?
> Sean

When you go to the mutt help (F1) there is some info in paragraphs
2.3.3 and 4.9. There's some more, but those seem to be the big ones.

A possible explanation is this. If I reply to your mail, change the
subject and talk about something completely different from your mail,
mutt doesn't notice. It analyses some headers - like In-Reply-To:
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> - and concludes that this header links
my mail to your mail and that they belong to the same thread. That
would be my fault. Maybe your friend did the same.

About the skipping: you usually don't delete a message, you just mark
it for deletion. The delete operation is carried out when you go to
another folder or when you refresh the current folder (usually with
'$'). As long as those messages are only marked for deletion, the
default behaviour is to skip over them when scrolling through the
message list. You have already marked them for deletion, so they are
not interesting anymore. Maybe that explains it.

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Re: Linux and IPR

[Paolo Alexis Falcone]

On Fri, 19 Nov 2004 02:29:33 -0800 (PST), ken keanon
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> Hi, 
>   
> MS boss was reported to have warned Asians govts that they could face
> IPR-infringement lawsuits for using Linux. 
>   
> How was the outcome of the case betweeen SCO and IBM? Will it be the end of
> Linux as open-source if SCO wins? 

The outcome doesn't look favorable towards SCO given the developments.
It's only a matter of time before SCO dies a hapless corporate death
that no one would miss.

> BTW, if SCO sues Debian, will Debian have the resources to fight the case in
> court? 

What SCO does is patently illegal and reeks of the worst things
corporate greed can muster, yet they still go unpunished.

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Re: Mail login

[Paolo Alexis Falcone]

On Fri, 19 Nov 2004 11:28:01 + (GMT), Elias Obudho
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> I have a mail account with the Uinversity of Nairobi.
> My problem is that for some computers whenever I try
> to loin I get a message of "Unknown user or password
> is uncorrect".  This happens before typing my
> password. I cannot log in since the login page does
> not come.
> 

Seems that there's a problem that needs the help of your network's
god, err administrator. You've tried informing them of that problem?
It's really hard to give diagnosis on this given that there's not much
administrator-related information supplied.


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std out & std err

[michael]

I have a problem understanding why, when attempting to configure mpich 
under the 2.4.27-1-686-smp kernel using bash shell, that I lose my std 
output when I enter (all on the same line)"

./configure --prefix=/usr/local/mpich/mpich-1.2.6/ifc-ch_p4 > config.log 
2>&1

This is my standard way of doing things and it's worked fine on RedHat 
and IRIX boxes. Indeed, a simple example gives the behaviour I expect:

$ (date; date -s) > config.log 2>&1;cat config.log
Fri Nov 19 13:01:28 GMT 2004
date: option requires an argument -- s
Try `date --help' for more information.
I do note that the first line of the configure script is
#! /bin/sh
but I believe that should not effect the std out|err of my command line
Ideas anybody??
Thanks, Michael
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Re: XFree86 and USB Mouse & Keyboard ---> Frustrating!

[Kent West]

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
In the root I run:
"dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86"
 disabled (NO) --  "frames interfaces kernel frames"
and selected //dev/input/mice/ instead.
 
Still no luck.  However the error message pumped out something about 
fonts.
 

If it's a mouse problem, your log file should say something to the 
effect of "Core pointer not initialized".

Look for any lines beginning with (EE) in your log file for clues.
Try a different window manager/environment, such as wmaker or icewm, to 
see if the problem is in X or in KDE.

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Re: Mail login

[Kent West]

Elias Obudho wrote:
Hi,
I have a mail account with the Uinversity of Nairobi.
My problem is that for some computers whenever I try
to loin I get a message of "Unknown user or password
is uncorrect".  This happens before typing my
password. I cannot log in since the login page does
not come.
Can you help me please.
 

Not without more information, such as, "Are you logging in via POP? 
IMAP? webmail?" What email client are you using? What do you mean by 
"log in"? Email is usually not "logged into" (unless it's webmail, in 
which case you may have a dirty cache with your browser; what browser 
are you using?).

More info, please.
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Re: std out & std err

[michael]

michael wrote:
I have a problem understanding why, when attempting to configure mpich 
under the 2.4.27-1-686-smp kernel using bash shell, that I lose my std 
output when I enter (all on the same line)"

./configure --prefix=/usr/local/mpich/mpich-1.2.6/ifc-ch_p4 > config.log 
2>&1

This is my standard way of doing things and it's worked fine on RedHat 
and IRIX boxes. Indeed, a simple example gives the behaviour I expect:

$ (date; date -s) > config.log 2>&1;cat config.log
Fri Nov 19 13:01:28 GMT 2004
date: option requires an argument -- s
Try `date --help' for more information.
I do note that the first line of the configure script is
#! /bin/sh
but I believe that should not effect the std out|err of my command line
Indeed, just checked on a RedHat 9 box and the final contents of the 
./configure cmd are as expected (ie not the same as on this Debian box)...

Michael
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Re: Partitioning hard drives

[Steve Lamb]

Chris Lale wrote:
"The Linux Logical Volume Manager.  LVM
supports enterprise level volume management of disk and disk subsystems
by grouping arbitrary disks into volume groups. The total capacity of
volume groups can be allocated to logical volumes, which are accessed as
regular block devices."
Which, if I had read that first, would leave me without one iota of
what LVM has to offer me.  On the other hand the 2nd or 3rd link on Google 
with a search of "LVM" yielded some nice layman's terms explinations of what 
LVM does.  In all honesty, if I had known about it prior to my recent Laptop 
install I would have toyed with it then just to play with it.  I will 
certainly attempt to do so prior to my next server install.  :)

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Re: pdflatex cannot see index

[Filipi Vianna]

When you use indexes in latex, you have to run latex (or pdflatex)
at least three times. One to make the .aux file, the second to
build the index and the last to build the index again, now
because of the rearangement of the pages resulting of the placement
of the index.

I use to put all those stuff in one makefile... it makes everything
easy.

C-ya!
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On 2004-11-19 07:40:25 -0200 Mauro Darida <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I am using LyX 1.3.3 in woody. I have found that if lyx produces a
> foo.tex with an index, running:
> pdflatex foo.tex
> gives a foo.pdf without the index. The foo.log says:
> No file foo.ind
> I can see a foo.idx but there is no foo.ind actually. If in lyx I view
> the foo.dvi I can see the index. Any solution or workaround?
> Any help appreciated
> Saluti, Mauro.
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Re: Kernel 2.4

[Joao Clemente]

Andreas Janssen wrote:
Hello
Michael Spang (<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>) wrote:

Although this questionis not specific to Debian, it is relevant and I
figure someone here has the answer. Why is the Linux community so
opposed to moving to Kernel 2.6? Is 2.4 really that much more stable?
Familiar? Upgrading to much trouble? Too many things changed too much?
I think not--the open source community is a very dynamic one, things
always change and are upgraded without a second thought. So why are so
many afraid of moving defaults to the latest stable? 2.4 seems to be
the default everywhere..(well to be honest, I don't know the default
for most distributions, but Debian and Knoppix are still with 2.4)

Almost all other mainstream distibutions (Mandrake, Slackware, Fedora,
SuSE) install 2.6 by default. Knoppix comes with kernel 2.6 (although
you may have to activate it using a boot option). Debian Sarge comes
with kernel 2.6 (although I think right now the default installation
kernel is 2.4). The only mainstream distribution I know that does not
have kernel 2.6 is Debian Woody, the current stable release. It is
nearly 2 1/2 years old.
I would ask the same question Michael did, but the other way around: Why 
should I update to 2.6 when I'm perfectly happy with my 2.4 kernel? My 
hardware is completely supported at this moment, so what features 
(non-hardware-support-related) are there in 2.6 that would make me want 
to change?

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Re: custom compiled 2.6.9 kernel; broke gcc

[Matt Zagrabelny]

On Thu, 2004-11-18 at 16:35 -0500, homeless wrote:
> hi all,
> 
> i've been custom compiling kernels for a while now and just tried the
> 2.6.9 version.  i use kernel-package and debian's packages.  running
> my 2.6.8 kernel i compiled a 2.6.9 kernel using make oldconfig,
> nothing relevant appeared (though i did add an extra version tag), so
> the config file is essentially as it was.
> 
> after booting with the new kernel, gcc seems to sporadically give
> internal compiler error: segmentation fault errors.  i've tried going
> up to gcc-3.4 but that doesn't change anything.  the problem is most
> prevalent with kernel compilation.
> 
> system is debian unstable on a 1GHz AMD Athlon.  any thoughts?  has
> something changed in the kernel that i missed?

there *is* some bug with the 2.6.9 kernel. i can fully compile a 2.6.9
kernel while running a 2.6.8 kernel, but my machine crashes (really
badly too, power off and all, not even a frozen screen) when i compile a
2.6.9 while running a 2.6.9. this behaviour happened three times in a
row, crashes at the exact same spot of the compile (or so i believe,
remember, no frozen screen or anything). but under 2.6.8 everything
compiles fine.

i have not filed a bug report yet.

-matt zagrabelny


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Re: debian architectures

[Kevin B. McCarty]

Mauro Darida wrote:

> I cannot quite understand which machines debian "architectures" are
> referring to. Of course I know that x-86 are common pcs, sparc are sun
> workstations, but others are quite cryptic to me. Anyone willing to
> translate into non-developer language??

Here's a list off the top of my head.  Presumably others will add to and
correct it.

* alpha - Digital (DEC) workstations, usually originally running VMS,
although there was a Windows NT port to this for a while.  Pretty much
legacy-only now.
* arm - Includes a lot of embedded systems like routers, some PDAs (e.g.
Sharp's Zaurus).
* ia64 - Intel's 64-bit Itanium series of workstations.  Not doing too
well in the marketplace.
* m68k - Motorola 680x0 chips: Ancient Apple computers, Amigas, VME
crate controllers, embedded systems, ...
* powerpc - IBM's PowerPC chips: Modern Apple computers, some IBM
workstations (usually originally running AIX, I think?)
* s390 - IBM's mainframes: "big iron."
* mips, mipsel, hppa - These I'm not too clear on.

Architectures for which there exist Debian packages, but not officially
supported by Debian:

* amd64 (formerly x86-64) - AMD's 64-bit Opteron chip series for
workstations.  Intel has either come out with a clone or is soon to do
so.  This is rapidly growing in popularity and will almost certainly be
supported in the next Debian release after Sarge.
* sh (sh3,sh4) - SuperH chips from Hitachi, mostly found in some gaming
consoles.  Not clear if Debian will ever officially support it due to
the rarity and slowness of the machines.

There are also "hurd-i386" and "bsd-i386" which are using kernels other
than the Linux kernel, running on Intel 32-bit machines.  These are sort
of experimental at the moment.

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Re: debian architectures

[michael]

Kevin B. McCarty wrote:
Mauro Darida wrote:

I cannot quite understand which machines debian "architectures" are
referring to. Of course I know that x-86 are common pcs, sparc are sun
workstations, but others are quite cryptic to me. Anyone willing to
translate into non-developer language??

Here's a list off the top of my head.  Presumably others will add to and
correct it.
* alpha - Digital (DEC) workstations, usually originally running VMS,
although there was a Windows NT port to this for a while.  Pretty much
legacy-only now.
* arm - Includes a lot of embedded systems like routers, some PDAs (e.g.
Sharp's Zaurus).
* ia64 - Intel's 64-bit Itanium series of workstations.  Not doing too
well in the marketplace.
* m68k - Motorola 680x0 chips: Ancient Apple computers, Amigas, VME
crate controllers, embedded systems, ...
* powerpc - IBM's PowerPC chips: Modern Apple computers, some IBM
workstations (usually originally running AIX, I think?)
* s390 - IBM's mainframes: "big iron."
* mips, mipsel, hppa - These I'm not too clear on.
MIPS chips are in the SGI Origin boxes (usually running IRIX) and even 
in your PlayStation! But SGI have now moved to Intel IA64 chips in their 
 boxes so I'm not sure how much longer MIPS chips will be about. But my 
SGI O2 does look nice ;)

Michael
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Re: pdflatex cannot see index

[Jerome BENOIT]

Filipi Vianna wrote:
When you use indexes in latex, you have to run latex (or pdflatex)
at least three times. One to make the .aux file
at this stage, do not forget to properly run `makeindex'
, the second to
build the index and the last to build the index again, now
because of the rearangement of the pages resulting of the placement
of the index.
You may compare with the build of a bibliography:
latex
bibtex
latex
latex
I use to put all those stuff in one makefile...
or in a BASH script
it makes everything
easy.
This is effectively a good idea.
Good TeXing,
Jerome
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Re: Linux and IPR

[John Hasler]

ken keanon writes:
> BTW, if SCO sues Debian, will Debian have the resources to fight the case
> in court?

The SCO Group (which is _not_ the same company as the old Santa Cruz
Operation) will not be suing anyone else.  IBM is destroying them.

If someone else was to file a TSG-style suit against SPI and/or the Debian
developers the EFF, the FSF, and the entire Free and Open Source movements
would come to our aid.  We could expect our legal team to include the likes
of Lawerence Lessig and Eben Moglen.  There would be no shortage of money
or legal talent.

Paolo Alexis Falcone writes:
> What SCO does is patently illegal and reeks of the worst things corporate
> greed can muster, yet they still go unpunished.

By this time next year IBM's Nazgul will be patiently sorting through the
rubble of TSG for the evidence that will allow them to pierce the corporate
veil and go after the principals.
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Re: debian architectures

[Michael Marsh]

On Fri, 19 Nov 2004 09:27:55 -0500, Kevin B. McCarty
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> * alpha - Digital (DEC) workstations, usually originally running VMS,
> although there was a Windows NT port to this for a while.  Pretty much
> legacy-only now.

And let's not forget OSF1/DigitalUnix/Tru64, not to mention some of
the best compilers I've ever used (cxx kicked the crap out of g++) and
tools like pixie.  I have a couple of friends who have old alpha
systems, though mostly for sentimental reasons at this point.

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Help reporting bugs

[Joao Clemente]

Hi. Can you clear me what is the procedure to follow to report/reopen bugs?
I looked at all bug reporting docs I could bind at debian.org and I got 
a number of different ways to do things, like:
- submitting to debian-bugs-dist mailing list
- mailing to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the installation report
- mailing to [EMAIL PROTECTED] without the installation report
- mailing [EMAIL PROTECTED]

I'm somewhat lost in what to do to be more effective. The bugs I would 
like to submit are
 - reopening the "installer should choose the optimized kernel choice" 
bug wich number I know (I have it here somewhere)
 - reporting a incorrect LANGUAGE setting done by the installer

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Automatic mount of usb-storage devices on 2.4.*?

[Nate Bargmann]

Hi All.

No, this is not about the auto-mounter.  What I am trying to do is
figure out how to consistently mount a given usb-storage device no
matter the order it was inserted.

A little background.  I am running Testing on a Thinkpad 390E with the
kernel-image 2.4.26 and hotplug packages.  I have a camera that is 
recognized by Hotplug as a usb-storage device and a memory stick that 
is recognized as a usb-storage device as well.  I put a custom user.map 
in /etc/hotplug/usb and the devices are recognized and run my custom
script.  So far, so good.

The first device inserted after a system restart (or hotplug restart)
will become /dev/sda1 and the second will be /dev/sdb1 (both are single
partitioned vfat devices).  This is also good, but also where my trouble
starts.  I would like to be able to write a custom script that can
figure out which device file the currently inserted device is
associated with and mount it at certain directory.  To do it manually 
I have to guess, but I would imagine the kernel stores this somewhere 
in /proc and I have yet to find it.

I find that /proc/partitions will give the major/minor device numbers
of filesystem devices, but I haven't figured out some way to associate
the USB device to a given partition.

I am using the Debian 2.4.26 kernel and the hotplug package and would
like to be able to mount the devices in my filesystem each time they
are inserted.  Has anyone tackled this?  I understand that this is much
easier/possible on the 2.6 kernels, but I haven't been able to get 2.6
to support my older Thinkpad as well as 2.4 does.

I can work around this by having a couple of different mount lines in
fstab, but that isn't as elegant as I would like to implement.

Thanks!

- Nate >>

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Re: Automatic mount of usb-storage devices on 2.4.*?

[Matt Zagrabelny]

On Fri, 2004-11-19 at 09:03 -0600, Nate Bargmann wrote:
> Hi All.
> 
> No, this is not about the auto-mounter.  What I am trying to do is
> figure out how to consistently mount a given usb-storage device no
> matter the order it was inserted.
> 
> A little background.  I am running Testing on a Thinkpad 390E with the
> kernel-image 2.4.26 and hotplug packages.  I have a camera that is 
> recognized by Hotplug as a usb-storage device and a memory stick that 
> is recognized as a usb-storage device as well.  I put a custom user.map 
> in /etc/hotplug/usb and the devices are recognized and run my custom
> script.  So far, so good.
> 
> The first device inserted after a system restart (or hotplug restart)
> will become /dev/sda1 and the second will be /dev/sdb1 (both are single
> partitioned vfat devices).  This is also good, but also where my trouble
> starts.  I would like to be able to write a custom script that can
> figure out which device file the currently inserted device is
> associated with and mount it at certain directory.  To do it manually 
> I have to guess, but I would imagine the kernel stores this somewhere 
> in /proc and I have yet to find it.
> 
> I find that /proc/partitions will give the major/minor device numbers
> of filesystem devices, but I haven't figured out some way to associate
> the USB device to a given partition.
> 
> I am using the Debian 2.4.26 kernel and the hotplug package and would
> like to be able to mount the devices in my filesystem each time they
> are inserted.  Has anyone tackled this?  I understand that this is much
> easier/possible on the 2.6 kernels, but I haven't been able to get 2.6
> to support my older Thinkpad as well as 2.4 does.
> 
> I can work around this by having a couple of different mount lines in
> fstab, but that isn't as elegant as I would like to implement.
> 

easiest way is to use 2.6 kernel, hotplug, and udev.

-matt zagrabelny


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Re: LANGUAGE=en_PT ?!? There is no such thing!

[Chris Lale]

On Fri, 2004-11-19 at 14:33, Joao Clemente wrote:
> Hi João. :-)
> Ok, so now we know it's really a bug... how do one reports this? Is 
> there a person to contact specifically about bugs found running the net 
> installer? a generic debian bug report e-mail? Any developer reading 
> this list?

Report it to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the first line in the body
being:
Package: installation-reports

There is an email template here:
http://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/report-template

Hth

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Re: custom compiled 2.6.9 kernel; broke gcc

[Ron Johnson]

On Fri, 2004-11-19 at 08:10 -0600, Matt Zagrabelny wrote:
> On Thu, 2004-11-18 at 16:35 -0500, homeless wrote:
[snip]
> there *is* some bug with the 2.6.9 kernel. i can fully compile a 2.6.9
> kernel while running a 2.6.8 kernel, but my machine crashes (really
> badly too, power off and all, not even a frozen screen) when i compile a
> 2.6.9 while running a 2.6.9. this behaviour happened three times in a
> row, crashes at the exact same spot of the compile (or so i believe,
> remember, no frozen screen or anything). but under 2.6.8 everything
> compiles fine.
> 
> i have not filed a bug report yet.

This seems like something you'd instantly want to file a critical
bug on.  A crash so bad that it turns the power off certainly seems
to me that it meets the criteria:
1 criticalmakes unrelated software on the system (or the 
  whole system) break, or causes serious data loss,
  or introduces a security hole on systems where you
  install the package.

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Re: mutt + squirrelmail

[Sridhar M.A.]

On Fri, Nov 19, 2004 at 12:12:22PM +, Richard Lyons wrote:
   > 
   > expect folders to be inside INBOX, the INBOX can only be read in 
   > mutt at startup.  Once you move into another folder, returning to 
   > the top of the tree only shows the folders below it and not the
   > contents of INBOX itself.  So it is necessary to exit mutt and log
   > on again to see new mail.
   > 
All these can be set with proper declarations in .muttrc. For the above
problem, the following might help.

  
  mailboxes =Inbox =mylug =debian =tuglist =deb-devel =prosper =toms =strchem =

With that pressing 'c' shows the mailbox with the new mail. I do not
have to log out to see whether a particular folder has received new
messages.

   >  -  Mutt sends mail by some other route, evidently, because what I send
   > from it disappears without trace.  Well, probably there is a trace
   > if I knew where to look.  What I mean is, it doesn't default to 
   > something that works
   > 
You mean the sent-mail sort of thing? Use the following:

  set record="=sent-mail"
   
   >  -  Mutt's display gets out of sync by a line some of the time, so that 
   > it is easy to delete the wrong message by mistake.   

Some other process/program is displaying on to the terminal. Happens
even to vi/emacs sessions. Press ctrl-l. It redraws the screen.

   > Even if you  notice the error in time, it is difficult to
   > scroll back to correct the problem because it skips the
   > messages marked for deletion.
   >
'J' and 'K' will take the cursor even on to the deleted messages.
   
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Re: Sarge questions on aptitude and GRUB

[Sridhar M.A.]

On Fri, Nov 19, 2004 at 11:24:35AM +, Chris Lale wrote:
   > On Fri, 2004-11-19 at 09:26, Mauro Darida wrote:
   > > Some questions on coming Sarge release:
   > > 1. I know GRUB will be the default: will make-kpkg support it?
   > 
   > Yes. When you compile a kernel it updates grub's menu.lst automatically.
   > 
Is it? On my machine, it has not done that. I use make-kpkg to build my
own kernels. It has never touched my /boot/grub/menus.lst for putting
any entry.

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Re: Kernel 2.4

[Andreas Janssen]

Hello

Joao Clemente (<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>) wrote:

> I would ask the same question Michael did, but the other way around:
> Why should I update to 2.6 when I'm perfectly happy with my 2.4
> kernel? My hardware is completely supported at this moment, so what
> features (non-hardware-support-related) are there in 2.6 that would
> make me want to change?

I don't know which advantages 2.6 has for you, but for me, using 2.6
means, among other things, integrated Alsa, lmsensors and crytoloop.
For a more detailed list of changes, please read



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ssh with X window

[Mauricio Lin]

Hi all,

I have tried to make the ssh works with X on my debian system and no
successful results.

On local mahine I have put:

$ xhost ip_remote_host

After that I type:

$ ssh -X [EMAIL PROTECTED]

After I logged I type

export DISPLAY=ip_local_host:0.0


When I try to run any graphical application like mozilla browser, the
application is closed after some seconds. The applications are not
loaded on my local machine.

Does anyone can help me?

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Re: Partitioning hard drives

[Dave Ewart]

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On Thursday, 18.11.2004 at 23:07 -0600, Jeremy Turner wrote:

> On Fri, Nov 19, 2004 at 11:41:02AM -0500, Robert Storey wrote:
> > There are security issues - some experts think it's a really good
> > idea to keep /tmp and /var away from the root partition. 
> 
> Especially if for some reason a process starts spewing out junk to a
> logfile, filling up your entire / partition.
> 
> I also learned that if you run a mail server, having /var/mail as an
> extra partition is nice, too.  If you have the same logfile spew, you
> will still have a place to spool incoming mail.

Ditto for news, of course - I have /var/spool/news on a separate
partition.  A high turnover of a large number of small files ... keep it
separate.

In fact, the new Sarge installer had an option for a 'news' spool
partition type.  It chooses appropriate block sizes etc. for the
filesystem.

Dave.
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Re: Help reporting bugs

[Maurits van Rees]

On Fri, Nov 19, 2004 at 02:54:24PM +, Joao Clemente wrote:
> Hi. Can you clear me what is the procedure to follow to report/reopen bugs?

Look at package `reportbug'. It takes you through all the necessary
steps for a good bug report.

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Re: ssh with X window

[Adriano Rafael Gomes]

Mauricio Lin escreveu:
Hi all,
I have tried to make the ssh works with X on my debian system and no
successful results.
On local mahine I have put:
$ xhost ip_remote_host
After that I type:
$ ssh -X [EMAIL PROTECTED]
After I logged I type
export DISPLAY=ip_local_host:0.0
When I try to run any graphical application like mozilla browser, the
application is closed after some seconds. The applications are not
loaded on my local machine.
Does anyone can help me?
Mauricio Lin.

Try enabling "X11Forwarding yes" on "/etc/ssh/sshd_config" file on the 
ssh server and don't set DISPLAY by yourself.

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how to use sarge boot disc as rescue disk?

[Bruno Boettcher]

Hello!

trying to get my server working again.. somehow is the MBR of the boot
disk corrupt, and i don't seem to get it repaired
(should have never thought about rebooting that damn machine... was
 running fine for 3 years)

thus i want to be at least able to boot the system from a cd
downloaded the sarge dvd iso (jigdo) and bootet giving the
root=/dev/sda1 option with it to let it find the correct root...

and that damn thing answers that it doesn't know sda 

how can i tell the kernel that it absolutely needs the scsi (aic7xxx)
  module?? otherwise i am really stuck... there are not a single ide hd
  in there


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Change URGENT notification in KDE

[Rick Friedman]

As it is now, the URGENT notification in KDE flashes the taskbar entry 
for an app, 3 times. Is there anyway to have it flash continuously? I 
find that 3 times is sometimes not enough for me to notice it.

Rick
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Re: ssh with X window

[Andreas Janssen]

Hello

Mauricio Lin (<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>) wrote:

> I have tried to make the ssh works with X on my debian system and no
> successful results.
> 
> On local mahine I have put:
> 
> $ xhost ip_remote_host

Don't use xhost unless you know exactly what you do. Using

xhost +ip_remote_host

will allow that machine to connect to your X server on your machine. If
you use X over ssh, that is not necessary. 

> After that I type:
> 
> $ ssh -X [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
> After I logged I type
> 
> export DISPLAY=ip_local_host:0.0

ssh should set the DISPLAY itself. Don't set the DISPLAY manually to
your host. This could result in the application trying to connect to
your local_host outside of the ssh connection, which is not what you
want, because that would be unencrypted, and your X server probably
doesn't even listen on the network. Let ssh set the DISPLAY.

best regards
 Andreas Janssen

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..amd64, was: Re: no subject

[Arnt Karlsen]

On Tue, 16 Nov 2004 12:28:52 -0600, Nelson, wrote in message 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

> 
> I just bought an HP with an AMD 64 processor. It came w/ wireless 
> keyboard/mouse.  If I install debian stable or unstable will it have 
> drivers for these or will I need a plugged in keyboard/mouse.
> 
>  -A Reasonably Confused newbie

..http://www.google.com/search?q=amd64+site%3Adebian.org

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How to back up from "sid" to "testing"?

[Christian Convey]

Hey guys,
I recently took a stab at upgrading my "testing" installation to "sid". 
 I've had some instability when logging out from KDE, so I've decided 
I'd rather live with "testing".

What's the most reasonable way to *downgrade* a system from sid to 
testing?  Do I need to suck it up and do a reinstall?

Thanks,
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mouse stuck with kernel 2.6.7

[Philippe Gouffon]

Hi
Just for the fun of it, I installed the "testing" kernel-image-2.6.7-1-386
package on my K6-450 PC (sarge, up-to-date). It boots fine but the mouse
(wireless logitech) does not move at all. It works fine with package
kernel-image-2.4.27-1-k6, which I tried to see if it had anything to do with
a pre-compiled kernel. Any hint?
Philippe
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Re: custom compiled 2.6.9 kernel

[homeless]

well, ok, as I am not the only one seeing this I am indeed going to 
file a bug report.  right now.

for what it's worth, my machine is also seg faulting when i run some 
hardware tests, particularly memtest, and this even when using the 
2.6.8 kernel precompiled by debian.  maybe this weekend i'll have the 
time to try a bunch of kernels out and see if the problem runs deeper.  
in the meantime, it appears that at least on my machine, the 2.6.9 
kernel makes it impossible to compile another 2.6.9 kernel.

thanks matt and ron and paolo.
-ivan
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lyx-1.3.5 for debian

[belahcene]

Hi, every body
I want to upgrade lyx to the latest version 1.3.5
I tried the rpm created for fedora, there was error, same thing with the 
source I need extra  files, is there who created it for debian ?
thanks a lot
bela

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Re: Bold Fonts Not Working in OpenOffice (Sid)

[H. S.]

Apparently, _Matt Price_, on 18/11/04 18:05,typed:
On Fri, Nov 19, 2004 at 09:37:08AM +1100, Bernard Lineham wrote:
Many thanks for your reply. I did not have the theasaurus or the help
package installed so I added those but unfortunately it did not correct
the problem.
On Thu, 2004-11-18 at 14:04 -0500, H. S. wrote:
Bernard Lineham wrote:
I'm running a recently installed up to date Sid distribution.  I am
having a problem where text in OpenOffice Writer that is marked as bold
is still showing up as plain text.  Can anyone advise how I might solve
this problem?

this may be a problem with the rendering of text onscreen.  In
particular I notice that Bitstream Vera Charter (which was the default
font when I first installed OOo) Bold does not look any different
ONSCREEN than the non-bold.  Try changing the font, e.g. to Times, see
if that helps.  If that solves your problem, then you just need to
switch your default font to something that displays properly.  If you
really like charter and want to keep it as your default, than that
demands a proper fix I unfortunatley am not competent to tell you how
to arrange.  

g'luck!
matt

Actually, yes. Since when I was having a problem in seeing bold fonts 
onscreen, the exported PDF files looked okay with bold fonts printed nicely.

I guess the problem would be in the fonts rendering on the system. I 
have these packages installed:
$> dpkg -l xfs* *ftt* mstt* | grep ^ii
ii  xfs4.3.0.dfsg.1-8 X font server
ii  xfs-xtt1.4.1.xf430-5  X-TrueType font server
ii  xfstt  1.6-2  X Font Server for TrueType fonts
ii  fttools1.2-13.1   FreeType font utilities.
ii  msttcorefonts  1.1.12 Installer for Microsoft TrueType core 
fonts

To the OP, try installing the last package above (or others too if 
needed), and see if that makes a difference. Sorry I can't be more 
specific(its been too long since I encountered this problem), but I do 
recall that the problem went away when I installed one or two additional 
packages. You have already tried openoffice related ones, try giving the 
above ones a shot.

GL,
->HS
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Re: Help reporting bugs

[Chris Lale]

On Fri, 2004-11-19 at 14:54, Joao Clemente wrote:
> Hi. Can you clear me what is the procedure to follow to report/reopen bugs?
> 
> I looked at all bug reporting docs I could bind at debian.org and I got 
> a number of different ways to do things, like:
> - submitting to debian-bugs-dist mailing list
> - mailing to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the installation report
> - mailing to [EMAIL PROTECTED] without the installation report
> - mailing [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
> I'm somewhat lost in what to do to be more effective. The bugs I would 
> like to submit are
>   - reopening the "installer should choose the optimized kernel choice" 
> bug wich number I know (I have it here somewhere)
>   - reporting a incorrect LANGUAGE setting done by the installer

Report it to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the first line in the body
being:
Package: installation-reports

There is an email template here:
http://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/report-template

Hth

Chris.


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battery-graph gives errors

[Kamaraju Kusumanchi]

Hi
I installed the latest battery-stats package available in sid. When I
run the battery-graph command I get the following errors. Is it a
known bug? Is there any workaround? I would appreciate if you can
point me in the right direction.


$battery-graph

gnuplot> set ylabel "%Full" 0.00,0.00  ""
   ^
 "/usr/lib/battery-stats/graph-setup", line 36: warning:
deprecated syntax - please use 'font' keyword

gnuplot> plot "-" using ($1 - 946702800):2 smooth unique axis x1y1
title "Battery %" with lines linewidth 3
   ^
 line 0: no data point found in specified file


I am running debian sid (and is upto date as of today).

thanks in advance
raju

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Re: How to back up from "sid" to "testing"?

[Kirk Strauser]

On Friday 19 November 2004 09:08, Christian Convey wrote:
> Hey guys,
>
> I recently took a stab at upgrading my "testing" installation to "sid".
>   I've had some instability when logging out from KDE, so I've decided
> I'd rather live with "testing".

Did you upgrade your entire system or just select packages?  I ask because 
I've seen no KDE instability on my sid system in many months.

> What's the most reasonable way to *downgrade* a system from sid to
> testing?  Do I need to suck it up and do a reinstall?

That's pretty much it.  :-/
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how to create a binary package

[belahcene]

Hi every body,
can I post it here or on devel-list?
I try to use the last lyx 1.3.5, from the source ( I didn't find a 
debian binary),
./configure --with-frontend=qt
gives the folowing error
checking for moc2... not found
checking for moc... not found
configure: error: moc binary not found in $PATH or /bin !

where can I find the package?
The strange is , with the 1.3.4 there is no probleme with rpm on my debian?
thank you for answer

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Default Routes, configuring networking

[Steve Spiller]

I'm not a complete Linux novice, but I'm beating my head against a wall.
I have 2 systems with Sarge installed. I connect through a standard Hub,
onto a Windows Domain (PDC & BDC are Win2k Server) with 2 Redhat DNS
servers and then out to the Internet through a Smoothwall Firewall on a 2Mb
Cable connection.
My problem is this - I can browse via SMB4K the Windows Domain (haven't
tried the CLI SaMBa client yet), and I can happily ping using IP addresses
and/or names from other systems on the network (a mix of Mandrake, Redhat
and Windows XP). However, the two Sarge boxes cannot ping each other or
other systems by name, only by IP address (local net range 192.168.0.x). I
can ping external (Internet) hosts using their names &/or IP address.
I have done some digging around and I think it has something to do with the
network routing set up on the Sarge boxes. (netstat -r output below)
Destination   Gateway Genmask Flags   MSS Window  irtt Iface
192.168.0.0   *   255.255.255.0   U 0 0  0 eth0
default   firewall0.0.0.0 UG0 0  0 eth0
/etc/resolv.conf:
search ezcomputers.co.uk
nameserver 192.168.0.1
nameserver 192.168.0.2
nameserver 10.1.1.10
nameserver 10.1.1.11
192.168.0.1/2 are the PDC & BDC
10.1.1.10/11 are local DNS servers 1 & 2
/etc/host.conf:
order hosts,bind
multi on
They are both set to be DHCP clients.
I'm guessing the problem lies with the second line of netstat -r, but I am
having trouble working out how to fix this or even what I should fix it to!
I do not have any firewall installed as far as I can tell, ie. no package
called Firewall appears in Synaptic.
Can anyone give me some guidance? I would really appreciate it.
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Re: Sarge questions on aptitude and GRUB

[Colin]

Sridhar M.A. wrote:
On Fri, Nov 19, 2004 at 11:24:35AM +, Chris Lale wrote:
   > On Fri, 2004-11-19 at 09:26, Mauro Darida wrote:
   > > Some questions on coming Sarge release:
   > > 1. I know GRUB will be the default: will make-kpkg support it?
   > 
   > Yes. When you compile a kernel it updates grub's menu.lst automatically.
   > 
Is it? On my machine, it has not done that. I use make-kpkg to build my
own kernels. It has never touched my /boot/grub/menus.lst for putting
any entry.

Regards,
I changed my /etc/kernel-img.conf to look like this:
# Do not create symbolic links in /
do_symlinks = no
postinst_hook = /sbin/update-grub
postrm_hook = /sbin/update-grub
do_bootloader = no
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Re: mutt + squirrelmail

[Richard Lyons]

On Friday 19 November 2004 15:44, Sridhar M.A. wrote:
> On Fri, Nov 19, 2004 at 12:12:22PM +, Richard Lyons wrote:
> > 
> >  expect folders to be inside INBOX, the INBOX can only be read in 
> >  mutt at startup.  Once you move into another folder, returning to 
> >  the top of the tree only shows the folders below it and not the
> >  contents of INBOX itself.  So it is necessary to exit mutt and log
> >  on again to see new mail.
> > 
> All these can be set with proper declarations in .muttrc. 

I'll persevere, then.

> For the above problem, the following might help.
>   
>   mailboxes =Inbox =mylug =debian =tuglist =deb-devel =prosper

I tried mailboxes =INBOX =lists =blahblah...

but still if I navigate up to 
  1  IMAP+INBOX.
  2  IMAP+INBOX.

(BTW, I do not see why it gives it twice - they both behave the same)

and use [enter] to select the INBOX, I get only a directory listing of 
all the subfolders.  I cannot see the incoming mail in the INBOX.  That 
is visible when first logged on, and I can work with that as long as I 
do not visit another folder.

> With that pressing 'c' shows the mailbox with the new mail. 

When I press 'c', I get 
Chdir to: imap://[EMAIL PROTECTED]/INBOX.
and [enter] moves to the folder listing again.

[...]

>- Mutt sends mail by some other route, evidently, because what I send
> >  from it disappears without trace.  Well, probably there is a trace
> >  if I knew where to look.  What I mean is, it doesn't default to 
> >  something that works
> > 
> You mean the sent-mail sort of thing? Use the following:

No, I mean the mail does not actually go anywhere -- is not sent.
On reflection, I guess that is not a mutt problem - probably means exim 
is not set up right.

Thanks for the other bits of advice.

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Re: How to back up from "sid" to "testing"?

[Rob Bochan]

On Friday 19 November 2004 12:56 pm, Kirk Strauser wrote:

> > What's the most reasonable way to *downgrade* a system from sid to
> > testing?  Do I need to suck it up and do a reinstall?
>
> That's pretty much it.  :-/

If you do end up going that route, here's something you can do to at least 
make it simple. On the machine in question, execute the following command:
dpkg --get-selections > packages.dpkg
Save the output file (packages.dpkg) to a floppy or remote location for future 
use. This file is a list of your installed packages, which should make your 
task simpler if you go the reinstall route. Once you've got the new base 
install and apt sources set up, don't run any other package installation 
programs yet. You can then pull up the packages.dpkg file and run the 
command:
dpkg --set-selections < packages.dpkg
This will tell the system which packages to install/uninstall en mass. Once 
that's done, run:
dselect install
That will install your selections automagically, asking you the necessary 
config questions. You should then have a clone of your previous packages, but 
from whichever branch you prefer. 

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Re: Creative SoundBlaster Live! - how to get it working?

[Chris Metzler]

*Please* trim the replies folks.

As far as your problem . . .

On Thu, 18 Nov 2004 16:18:22 +
michael <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> 
> Okay, it seems to be module emu10k1 that I require but I get:
> 
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/src$ sudo modprobe emu10k1
> /lib/modules/2.4.27-1-686-smp/kernel/drivers/sound/emu10k1/emu10k1.o: 
> init_module: No such device
> Hint: insmod errors can be caused by incorrect module parameters, 
> including invalid IO or IRQ parameters.
>You may find more information in syslog or the output from dmesg
> /lib/modules/2.4.27-1-686-smp/kernel/drivers/sound/emu10k1/emu10k1.o: 
> insmod 
> /lib/modules/2.4.27-1-686-smp/kernel/drivers/sound/emu10k1/emu10k1.o
> failed/lib/modules/2.4.27-1-686-smp/kernel/drivers/sound/emu10k1/emu10k
> 1.o: insmod emu10k1 failed

This machine of yours doesn't happen to be a Dell, does it?  Can you
please supply the output of "lspci -n"?

(yes, this is relevant)

-c

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Re: Sarge questions on aptitude and GRUB

[Chris Lale]

"Sridhar M.A." wrote

> On Fri, Nov 19, 2004 at 11:24:35AM +, Chris Lale wrote: 
>> On Fri, 2004-11-19 at 09:26, Mauro Darida wrote:
>> > Some questions on coming Sarge release:
>> > 1. I know GRUB will be the default: will make-kpkg support it?
>> 
>> Yes. When you compile a kernel it updates grub's menu.lst automatically.
>> 
> Is it? On my machine, it has not done that. I use make-kpkg to build my
> own kernels. It has never touched my /boot/grub/menus.lst for putting
> any entry.
> 

Its not actually during compilation, but when you install the kernel. Here is 
the screen output of dpkg installing a new kernel:


thinkpad:/usr/src# dpkg -i
kernel-image-2.6.8-ndis-20041119_custom.1.00_i386.deb
Selecting previously deselected package
kernel-image-2.6.8-ndis-20041119.
(Reading database ... 60780 files and directories currently installed.)
Unpacking kernel-image-2.6.8-ndis-20041119 (from
kernel-image-2.6.8-ndis-20041119_custom.1.00_i386.deb) ...
Setting up kernel-image-2.6.8-ndis-20041119 (custom.1.00) ...
Searching for GRUB installation directory ... found: /boot/grub .
Testing for an existing GRUB menu.list file... found:
/boot/grub/menu.lst .
Searching for splash image... none found, skipping...
Found kernel: /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.8-ndis-20041119
Found kernel: /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.8-1-386
Found kernel: /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.6-20041119-ndis
Updating /boot/grub/menu.lst ... done



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Where are config questions in install of latest sarge, and other questions...

[Williams, Allen]

I checked the debian site for sarge release notes, and if they're there, I can't
find 'em, so it's back to the mailing list;-)

I had been running sarge since June, and I just did a complete reinstall of the
latest sarge (don't ask- it's embarassing), dated 11/17, I think.

1.  It never asked me the hardware config questions I was used to with both
woody and sarge.  What happened to them, how do I find out what device support
is installed, and get support for devices that might not be installed (i.e.,
download drivers for stuff- although now that I've said it, I guess they're just
apt packages, right?).

2.  My desktop went from KDE to Gnome.  Is this normal?  Where do I set the
default desktop?

3.  This machine is to be used primarily for software development.  Any opinions
on which desktop is best for that?

4.  I can't log in to the X desktop as root.  Where do I fix that?  Is this in
/etc/X11/config (I'm not at my Debian system)?

And now, I guess I'm off to learn about gnome...

_
Regards, 
Allen


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Re: debian architectures

[Ron Johnson]

On Fri, 2004-11-19 at 09:45 -0500, Michael Marsh wrote:
> On Fri, 19 Nov 2004 09:27:55 -0500, Kevin B. McCarty
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > * alpha - Digital (DEC) workstations, usually originally running VMS,
> > although there was a Windows NT port to this for a while.  Pretty much
> > legacy-only now.
> 
> And let's not forget OSF1/DigitalUnix/Tru64, not to mention some of
> the best compilers I've ever used (cxx kicked the crap out of g++) and
> tools like pixie.  I have a couple of friends who have old alpha
> systems, though mostly for sentimental reasons at this point.

I don't know whether OSF1/DigitalUnix/Tru64 has been EOL'ed in
favor of HP-SUX, but OpenVMS is still under active development.

OpenVMS 8.2  is on 3 platforms:
- VAX, which hasn't been made since ~1999
- Alpha, which will be EOL in a couple of years :(
- ia64.  Aaaggghhh!

By the time that Alpha is EOL'ed, we'll be in the middle of a
migration from Alpha/VMS to HP-SUX.I really like OVMS.

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Re: How to back up from "sid" to "testing"?

[William Ballard]

On Fri, Nov 19, 2004 at 01:34:45PM -0500, Rob Bochan wrote:
> On Friday 19 November 2004 12:56 pm, Kirk Strauser wrote:
> 
> > > What's the most reasonable way to *downgrade* a system from sid to
> > > testing?  Do I need to suck it up and do a reinstall?
> >
> dpkg --get-selections > packages.dpkg
> dpkg --set-selections < packages.dpkg

Won't this be problematic?  Sarge has different package names in it
than Sid, and you may select something you really don't want to select
or may miss something key.  It seems like something you really need to
eyeball.


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Re: Where are config questions in install of latest sarge, and other questions...

[Matt Zagrabelny]

> 1.  It never asked me the hardware config questions I was used to with both
> woody and sarge.  What happened to them, how do I find out what device support
> is installed, and get support for devices that might not be installed (i.e.,
> download drivers for stuff- although now that I've said it, I guess they're 
> just
> apt packages, right?).

hardware support boils down to drivers compiled into the kernel or
compiled as modules. to check if certain modules are loaded do 'lsmod'.
i am not sure how to check if certain drivers are compiled into the
kernel.

> 
> 2.  My desktop went from KDE to Gnome.  Is this normal?  Where do I set the
> default desktop?

often times you can choose your desktop by using your display manager.
the default desktop probably depends on which display manager (gdm, kdm,
or xdm) is running.

> 
> 3.  This machine is to be used primarily for software development.  Any 
> opinions
> on which desktop is best for that?
> 
> 4.  I can't log in to the X desktop as root.  Where do I fix that?  Is this in
> /etc/X11/config (I'm not at my Debian system)?

again, the display manager (at least for gdm) has a setting where you
can disable root logins.

-matt zagrabelny


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Re: Where are config questions in install of latest sarge, and other questions...

[Joao Clemente]

Matt Zagrabelny wrote:
1.  It never asked me the hardware config questions I was used to with both
woody and sarge.  What happened to them, how do I find out what device support
is installed, and get support for devices that might not be installed (i.e.,
download drivers for stuff- although now that I've said it, I guess they're just
apt packages, right?).

hardware support boils down to drivers compiled into the kernel or
compiled as modules. to check if certain modules are loaded do 'lsmod'.
i am not sure how to check if certain drivers are compiled into the
kernel.
Usually in /boot there is stored the config file that existed when
compiling the installed kernel... I have been finding this to be true
for a large number of distributions.
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Re: Default Routes, configuring networking

[Henrique de Moraes Holschuh]

On Fri, 19 Nov 2004, Steve Spiller wrote:
> and Windows XP). However, the two Sarge boxes cannot ping each other or
> other systems by name, only by IP address (local net range 192.168.0.x). I

This means your name resolution is busted.  Things that have to do with it
need to be checked:
  /etc/nsswitch.conf
  /etc/resolv.conf

  any caches (lwresd, nscd).

Connectivity to the nameservers (DNS).

> I have done some digging around and I think it has something to do with the
> network routing set up on the Sarge boxes. (netstat -r output below)
> 
> Destination   Gateway Genmask Flags   MSS Window  irtt Iface
> 192.168.0.0   *   255.255.255.0   U 0 0  0 eth0
> default   firewall0.0.0.0 UG0 0  0 eth0

Get used to the "ip" command, you'll learn a lot more. Anyway, try netstat
-nr.

And "grep firewall /etc/hosts" to find out why there is a firewall line in the
netstat output.

> /etc/resolv.conf:
> search ezcomputers.co.uk
> nameserver 192.168.0.1
> nameserver 192.168.0.2
> nameserver 10.1.1.10
> nameserver 10.1.1.11
> 
> 192.168.0.1/2 are the PDC & BDC

Unless you have DNS servers there, remove their nameserver lines.

> /etc/host.conf:

This is ignored.  /etc/nsswitch.conf is used instead.

> They are both set to be DHCP clients.

Make sure the DHCP daemon is not overwriting /etc/resolv.conf with crap.
And, of course, make sure you are not publishing wrong info on DHCP (if your
PDC and BDC are NOT DNS servers, they should not be adverticed as such by
DHCP).

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  them all and in the darkness grind them. In the Land of Redmond
  where the shadows lie." -- The Silicon Valley Tarot
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Re: Where are config questions in install of latest sarge, and other questions...

[Jacob S]

On Fri, 19 Nov 2004 13:50:38 -0500
"Williams, Allen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I checked the debian site for sarge release notes, and if they're
> there, I can't find 'em, so it's back to the mailing list;-)
> 
> I had been running sarge since June, and I just did a complete
> reinstall of the latest sarge (don't ask- it's embarassing), dated
> 11/17, I think.
> 
> 1.  It never asked me the hardware config questions I was used to with
> both woody and sarge.  What happened to them, how do I find out what
> device support is installed, and get support for devices that might
> not be installed (i.e., download drivers for stuff- although now that
> I've said it, I guess they're just apt packages, right?).

It sounds like you entered 'expert' or 'expert26' at the boot prompt on
the previous install and didn't on your latest install. 

Is there something that's not working on your computer, or why do you
think you need more drivers? What do you need the drivers for? Answers
to those questions would help us help you tremendously. Most likely any
hardware drivers you need are already in the kernel waiting to be
loaded. If you need software stuff, then yes, it's usually available via
apt-get.

> 2.  My desktop went from KDE to Gnome.  Is this normal?  Where do I
> set the default desktop?

I guess you didn't use the Debian-Installer the Sarge installation you
had been running since June? Yes, Gnome is the default for a new
installation. You can change whether it uses Gnome or KDE though by
changing your session options before you login (it's usually a menu
option). When you change it, it will ask if you want the new choice to
be the default.

> 3.  This machine is to be used primarily for software development. 
> Any opinions on which desktop is best for that?

The one you can work with the best. :-) For me, it's IceWM.

> 4.  I can't log in to the X desktop as root.  Where do I fix that?  Is
> this in/etc/X11/config (I'm not at my Debian system)?

Guessing from your vague information, it sounds like a fairly default
Sarge installation you're running. Which should mean the 'X desktop'
you're trying to login on is GDM (Gnome Desktop Manager). So allowing
root logins is something that can be controlled by clicking on Actions -
Configure Login Manager and then enter your root password and go to the
Security tab and check "Enable root logins". 

HTH,
Jacob


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Re: Bold Fonts Not Working in OpenOffice (Sid)

[Wayne Topa]

H. S.([EMAIL PROTECTED]) is reported to have said:
> Apparently, _Matt Price_, on 18/11/04 18:05,typed:
> >On Fri, Nov 19, 2004 at 09:37:08AM +1100, Bernard Lineham wrote:
> >
> 
> 
> Actually, yes. Since when I was having a problem in seeing bold fonts 
> onscreen, the exported PDF files looked okay with bold fonts printed nicely.
> 
> I guess the problem would be in the fonts rendering on the system. I 
> have these packages installed:
> $> dpkg -l xfs* *ftt* mstt* | grep ^ii
> ii  xfs4.3.0.dfsg.1-8 X font server
> ii  xfs-xtt1.4.1.xf430-5  X-TrueType font server
> ii  xfstt  1.6-2  X Font Server for TrueType fonts
> ii  fttools1.2-13.1   FreeType font utilities.
> ii  msttcorefonts  1.1.12 Installer for Microsoft TrueType core 
> fonts
> 
> To the OP, try installing the last package above (or others too if 
> needed), and see if that makes a difference. Sorry I can't be more 
> specific(its been too long since I encountered this problem), but I do 
> recall that the problem went away when I installed one or two additional 
> packages. You have already tried openoffice related ones, try giving the 
> above ones a shot.
> 
> 
Just my 2 cents. Of the packages H.S has installed, I have only the
xfs installed.  I just checked and I can see, and print, Arial and the
Bitstream Vera Charter in bold here (OO version 1.1.2).  I am not
finished setting up this box so don't have truetype fonts installed,
So I doubt that is the problem.

Sorry I don't have the answer to your problem.

Wayne
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Is life with 'udev' good?

[Christian Convey]

Hey guys,
I'm considering installing the 'udev' package as part of my Sarge 2.6 
installation.  My motivation is that I'm often baffled when trying to 
figure out which USB device is associated with USB devices I plug in.

Is there a general concensus about whether udev makes life better or worse?
Thanks,
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RE: Where are config questions in install of latest sarge, and ot her questions...

[Williams, Allen]

Matt,

Thanks for the help.  Another question:


> again, the display manager (at least for gdm) has a setting where you can
disable root logins.

Do you know where this is?


Thanks,
Allen


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Re: How to back up from "sid" to "testing"?

[Rob Bochan]

On Friday 19 November 2004 02:14 pm, William Ballard wrote:

> Won't this be problematic?  Sarge has different package names in it
> than Sid, and you may select something you really don't want to select
> or may miss something key.  It seems like something you really need to
> eyeball.

I've had good luck with this method. It handles the majority of the work for 
you. Between Sid and Sarge, the package names usually aren't that different, 
it's the versions that change the most. Like most anything else though, a 
little fine tuning by hand is sometimes in order. 

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Re: Where are config questions in install of latest sarge, and other questions...

[Jim Hall]

Matt Zagrabelny wrote:
1.  It never asked me the hardware config questions I was used to with both
woody and sarge.  What happened to them, how do I find out what device support
is installed, and get support for devices that might not be installed (i.e.,
download drivers for stuff- although now that I've said it, I guess they're just
apt packages, right?).

hardware support boils down to drivers compiled into the kernel or
compiled as modules. to check if certain modules are loaded do 'lsmod'.
i am not sure how to check if certain drivers are compiled into the
kernel.

2.  My desktop went from KDE to Gnome.  Is this normal?  Where do I set the
default desktop?

often times you can choose your desktop by using your display manager.
the default desktop probably depends on which display manager (gdm, kdm,
or xdm) is running.

3.  This machine is to be used primarily for software development.  Any opinions
on which desktop is best for that?
4.  I can't log in to the X desktop as root.  Where do I fix that?  Is this in
/etc/X11/config (I'm not at my Debian system)?

again, the display manager (at least for gdm) has a setting where you
can disable root logins.
-matt zagrabelny


If you are running Gnome you will certainly want to run gdm. I know that 
setting is in the X config file. I have been told by a Debian superguru 
that gdm is better than xdm and even works well for KDE, so that's my 
default display manager. I trust his judgement on things like this, 
although his documentation and people skills leave something to be 
desired sometimes.

If you are using the graphical login, check the menus at the top of the 
window. Before you actually login, you can change the desktop session 
(default or one time) and allow root logins.

Jim
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nis, nfs and netgroup problem

[Rudy Gevaert]

Hello,

I'm trying to set up NIS with NFS.

The server running NIS and NFS is a nat box. I'm using the package
ipmasq for the masquerading.  Only boxen behind the nat box are using
NIS and NFS.

NFS works when I export a directory on the server like this:
/home   10.0.0.0/255.255.255.0(rw,sync)


However when I want to use a netgroup, it doesn't work:

testbak:~# mount gateway.gevaert:/root /mnt/
mount: gateway.gevaert:/root failed, reason given by server: Permission denied

syslog reports:
Nov 19 20:44:22 gevaert rpc.mountd: refused mount request from testbak.gevaert 
for /root (/): no export entry

this is the entry in /etc/exports
/root   @testbakken(async,ro)

and this is the contents of /etc/netgroup
lappie   (duvel,,gevaert)
testbakken (testbak,,,)

ant01  (ant01,,)
ant01  (ant02,,)
ant01  (ant03,,)

ants ant01 ant02 ant03
faiclients ants


What could be the problem?

NIS is setup correctly because I can login onto the a NIS client
machine (testbak) when using NIS.

Thanks in advance,

Rudy

PS I'm not on the list, so plz CC me


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RE: Where are config questions in install of latest sarge, and ot her questions...

[Williams, Allen]

Jacob,

Thanks, and, yes, it was a very vanilla install (because it didn't as me any
question;>).
 
> > 1.  It never asked me the hardware config questions I was 
> used to with 
> > both woody and sarge.  What happened to them, how do I find 
> out what 
> > device support is installed, and get support for devices that might 
> > not be installed (i.e., download drivers for stuff- 
> although now that 
> > I've said it, I guess they're just apt packages, right?).
> 
> It sounds like you entered 'expert' or 'expert26' at the boot 
> prompt on the previous install and didn't on your latest install. 

> Is there something that's not working on your computer, or 
> why do you think you need more drivers? What do you need the 
> drivers for? Answers to those questions would help us help 
> you tremendously. Most likely any hardware drivers you need 
> are already in the kernel waiting to be loaded. If you need 
> software stuff, then yes, it's usually available via apt-get.

I *thought* I also entered expert vga=771 on this one, too, but could be
mistaken.  Everything's working fine, given I've only run it a few hours and
haven't tried anything like burning CD's or using the USB port or such, but a) I
don't want to unknowningly screw up, and b) I'm trying to learn the whole
system.

Thanks again for the response.


Allen


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Trying to install alien made wxPython .deb package.

[Anthony Hoskins]

Good day folks, 

I am trying to update my wxPython package so I can run Boa Constructor. 
I have tried installing from source, but encountered some errors which I 
don't remember now, but could probably replicate if need be. 

I also tried installing via apt-get, which left me with an outdated 
distrobution of wxPython, and currently i'm getting the message when trying 
to start Boa: Sorry! This version of Boa requires atleast wxPython 2.4.0.7

So I tried to get the packages from the wxPython site, but they only have 
packages for Redhat, and I think Mandrake. I then tried to download and 
convert with alien two packages: 

// redhat 9 package for gtk2-ansi Python 2.2: 
alien --to-deb wxPython2.5-gtk2-ansi-2.5.3.1-rh9_py2.2.i386.rpm

//redhat 9 package for gtk-ansi python 2.2: 
alien --to-deb wxpython2.5-gtk-ansi-2.5.3.1-rh9_py2.2.i386.rpm  

the first pacakge for gtk2-ansi won't even work, but the second package for 
gtk-ansi creates a new deb package just fine. This package can be run with 
Package Manager it seems, but when I try to install them I get the following 
errors: 

// BEGIN ERROR

<2.5-gtk-ansi-2.5.3.1-rh9_py2.2.i386.rpm;echo RESULT=$?
error: cannot open Packages index using db3 - No such file or directory (2)
error: cannot open Packages database in /var/lib/rpm
RESULT=1
 
// END ERROR

I've tried using apt-get to get libdb3 but it says I already have the latest 
version. Is this some kind of problem with the package trying to use a redhat 
setup on a debian machine? If you know of a link to a site that already 
discusses this, I could use it.

*note* a lot of my problems (not rpm problems) might be because this is the 
runtime, and not the common release, however you can only install one version 
of wxPython and I don't really know how to uninstall it. Will the common 
release from apt-get work, or will I need to uninstall this completely?

If this post belongs better somewhere else, please let me know and I will 
repost it accordingly. Thank you in advance for any time you take to help me 
out.

P.S. I'm a complete newbie to Linux, so please bare with me.


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Re: have a question about /proc

[Michael Spang]

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I was browsing through my file system one day on my linux partition and 
noticed somthing that i never did before in the /proc directory. firstly 
what is this directory I now that it has somthing to do with the 
procedure file system what ever that is I dont know, secondly why does 
it duplicate my root directory and then create nested copies of it. they 
seem to go on endlessly what perpose does that serve just curiouse. 
Mabey its just my computer but I have tried differant linux 
distrobutions and the all seem to do the same thing. Oh and for the 
record I can not delete them any  at all very strange.?

You can't delete anything in /proc because theres nothing to delete.. 
the information is retrieved from memory and formatted when requested by 
the kernel. If you examine it closely, you will see that only a few 
files actually report a size. 'proc' stands for 'process,' not 
procedure. This filesystem is important, as many commands need the 
information in provides. The proc(5) manpage explains what many of the 
files are. There are lots of symlinks and yes, you can follow them to 
get ridiculously long paths for any of the files on your system like 
/proc/self/root/proc/self/root/...

Michael Spang
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Re: Is life with 'udev' good?

[H. S.]

Apparently, _Christian Convey_, on 19/11/04 14:43,typed:
Hey guys,
I'm considering installing the 'udev' package as part of my Sarge 2.6 
installation.  My motivation is that I'm often baffled when trying to 
figure out which USB device is associated with USB devices I plug in.

Is there a general concensus about whether udev makes life better or worse?
Thanks,
Christian
My experience has been great with udev except in the case of multi-card 
reader that I have (not sure how to set that up). Other than that, I can 
insert my USB stick and an icon appears on the desktop (Gnome) and I can 
click on it and browse it. I take the USB stick out and the device gets 
unmounted and the icon from the desktop dissappears.

I haven't been able to make it really work with KDE though. However, it 
sure does beat the earlier method I was employing (having sda1 or sdb1 
etc. in /etc/fstab which obviously is not a great solution).

Considering everything I have experienced, udev is great. However, if 
you are using nvidia driver I guess you will have to load it explicitly 
in /etc/modules to make it work. I kind of recall it might have 
something to do with udev.

Just ask if you need more help,
->HS
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Re: Is life with 'udev' good?

[Jeremy Brooks]

> Hey guys,
>
> I'm considering installing the 'udev' package as part of my Sarge 2.6
> installation.  My motivation is that I'm often baffled when trying to
> figure out which USB device is associated with USB devices I plug in.
>
> Is there a general concensus about whether udev makes life better or
> worse?
>
> Thanks,
> Christian

It is a Good Thing.  It really is nice to plug in whatever combination of
USB devices, and they always mount in the same places.

Make sure you save a backup of your udev.conf file, so that you can
restore your changes when the udev package is upgraded.  Also, it doesn't
know about vmware right now, so if you use vmware, you will have to
recreate the /dev/vmmon and /dev/vmnet entries.



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Re: sound driver

[Jason Rennie]

On Thu, Nov 18, 2004 at 11:51:22AM -0700, Justin Guerin wrote:
> Sounds like you have a DMA or IRQ problem.  Can you check which DMA and IRQ 
> channels are assigned during Knoppix boot, and during Debian boot?  You may 
> have to tell the sound module to use a specific IRQ when it's loaded.  I 
> had to do the same thing with my ISA card, when I first configured it.  I 
> just went down the list of available IRQs before I got to one that worked.

You got it: under Debian it gets IRQ 18, under Knoppix it gets IRQ 22.
Do you know what option I'd use to pass an alternate IRQ to the
kernel?

Thanks,

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framebuffer in 2.6.9, anybody got it working?

[H. S.]

I have been trying to get frambuffer bootup work in 2.6.9 without 
success so far. Cannot get the logo at all. Screen is blank till X 
starts up. I have same experience on Sid machines, one uses nv driver 
and the other ati.

If somebody has that high resolution screen boot up working with the tux 
logo in 2.6.9, could you post the relevant parts of the .config file?

Thanks,
->HS
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RE: Is life with 'udev' good?

[Williams, Allen]

What did you have to do to get it to work with the nvidia driver?


Thanks,
Allen

> My experience has been great with udev except in the case of 
> multi-card 
> reader that I have (not sure how to set that up). Other than 
> that, I can 
> insert my USB stick and an icon appears on the desktop 
> (Gnome) and I can 
> click on it and browse it. I take the USB stick out and the 
> device gets 
> unmounted and the icon from the desktop dissappears.
> 
> I haven't been able to make it really work with KDE though. 
> However, it 
> sure does beat the earlier method I was employing (having 
> sda1 or sdb1 
> etc. in /etc/fstab which obviously is not a great solution).
> 
> Considering everything I have experienced, udev is great. However, if 
> you are using nvidia driver I guess you will have to load it 
> explicitly 
> in /etc/modules to make it work. I kind of recall it might have 
> something to do with udev.
> 
> Just ask if you need more help,
> ->HS
> 
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Re: custom compiled 2.6.9 kernel

[Wayne Topa]

homeless([EMAIL PROTECTED]) is reported to have said:
> well, ok, as I am not the only one seeing this I am indeed going to 
> file a bug report.  right now.
> 
> for what it's worth, my machine is also seg faulting when i run some 
> hardware tests, particularly memtest, and this even when using the 

When memtest86 is run the kernel isn't.  No other program is but
memtest.  If it is showing memory problems, thats the problem!

Now I have nerver run the package memtester, so I don't know if thats
what you are running, but I doubt any 'real' memeroy test program
would be able to test the memory with anything else running.

If you have more then one memory stick, try testing them one at a
time.  A kernel compile does pressure the memory and 'usually' shows
up bad memory.

:-) HTH, YMMV, HAND :-)

Wayne
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Re: Default Routes, configuring networking

[Wayne Topa]

Steve Spiller([EMAIL PROTECTED]) is reported to have said:
> I'm not a complete Linux novice, but I'm beating my head against a wall.
> 
> I have 2 systems with Sarge installed. I connect through a standard Hub,
> onto a Windows Domain (PDC & BDC are Win2k Server) with 2 Redhat DNS
> servers and then out to the Internet through a Smoothwall Firewall on a 2Mb
> Cable connection.
> 
> My problem is this - I can browse via SMB4K the Windows Domain (haven't
> tried the CLI SaMBa client yet), and I can happily ping using IP addresses
> and/or names from other systems on the network (a mix of Mandrake, Redhat
> and Windows XP). However, the two Sarge boxes cannot ping each other or
> other systems by name, only by IP address (local net range 192.168.0.x). I
> can ping external (Internet) hosts using their names &/or IP address.
> 

/etc/hosts
IP.Number   host.by.namealias

If your hosts file is setup correctly the 'order hosts' in
/etc/host.conf should allow you to ping by name.

Not sure about the resolv.conf.  I recall that only 2 IP's are read,
but I may be wrong about that.  I's try 
nameserver 192.168.0.1
nameserver 10.1.1.10
to see if that helps.

:-) HTH, YMMV, HAND :-)
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Re: Default Routes, configuring networking

[Sergio Basurto Juarez]

--- Steve Spiller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I'm not a complete Linux novice, but I'm beating my
> head against a wall.
> 
> I have 2 systems with Sarge installed. I connect
> through a standard Hub,
> onto a Windows Domain (PDC & BDC are Win2k Server)
> with 2 Redhat DNS
> servers and then out to the Internet through a
> Smoothwall Firewall on a 2Mb
> Cable connection.
> 
> My problem is this - I can browse via SMB4K the
> Windows Domain (haven't
> tried the CLI SaMBa client yet), and I can happily
> ping using IP addresses
> and/or names from other systems on the network (a
> mix of Mandrake, Redhat
> and Windows XP). However, the two Sarge boxes cannot
> ping each other or
> other systems by name, only by IP address (local net
> range 192.168.0.x). I
> can ping external (Internet) hosts using their names
> &/or IP address.
> 
> I have done some digging around and I think it has
> something to do with the
> network routing set up on the Sarge boxes. (netstat
> -r output below)
> 
> Destination   Gateway Genmask Flags 
>  MSS Window  irtt Iface
> 192.168.0.0   *   255.255.255.0   U 
>0 0  0 eth0
> default   firewall0.0.0.0 UG
>0 0  0 eth0
> 
> /etc/resolv.conf:
> search ezcomputers.co.uk
> nameserver 192.168.0.1
> nameserver 192.168.0.2
> nameserver 10.1.1.10
> nameserver 10.1.1.11
> 
> 192.168.0.1/2 are the PDC & BDC
> 10.1.1.10/11 are local DNS servers 1 & 2
> 
> /etc/host.conf:
> order hosts,bind
> multi on
> 
> They are both set to be DHCP clients.
> 
> I'm guessing the problem lies with the second line
> of netstat -r, but I am
> having trouble working out how to fix this or even
> what I should fix it to!
> I do not have any firewall installed as far as I can
> tell, ie. no package
> called Firewall appears in Synaptic.
> 
> Can anyone give me some guidance? I would really
> appreciate it.
> 
Ok. 
Let's start at the beginning:
You can ping any machine of your network by ip, but
you can ping by name!!, run
#dig www.yahoo.com
if you can resolv this then the resolv is doing it's
job good.
then run
#dig [machine] //where machine is any of your network
work stations.

do the same in a linux machine that works!!

After this we can figure out the next steps to go!!!

Besides tell me what is the output if you tipe route
-n in a linux box that is working.

Wait response!!



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Re: Mail login

[Carl Fink]

On Fri, Nov 19, 2004 at 07:10:36AM -0600, Kent West wrote:

> Not without more information, such as, "Are you logging in via POP? 
> IMAP? webmail?" What email client are you using? What do you mean by 
> "log in"? Email is usually not "logged into" (unless it's webmail, in 
> which case you may have a dirty cache with your browser; what browser 
> are you using?).

The original message was cross-listed with squirrelmail-stable, so I
must assume he's logging into a SM system.  However, that message
really shouldn't happen *before* logging in, so maybe not.
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Re: Is life with 'udev' good?

[H. S.]

Apparently, _Williams, Allen_, on 19/11/04 15:41,typed:
What did you have to do to get it to work with the nvidia driver?

Thanks,
Allen

As I had written earlier, just put "nvidia" in /etc/modules and it will 
be loaded upon boot time. So install the nvidia driver in Debain (using 
module-assistant is the easiest way) and modify /etc/modules.

Let me know if you need more help,
->HS

Considering everything I have experienced, udev is great. However, if 
you are using nvidia driver I guess you will have to load it 
explicitly 
in /etc/modules to make it work. I kind of recall it might have 
something to do with udev.

Just ask if you need more help,
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Re: Linux and IPR

[Carl Fink]

On Fri, Nov 19, 2004 at 08:54:22PM +0800, Paolo Alexis Falcone wrote:
 
> What SCO does is patently illegal and reeks of the worst things
> corporate greed can muster, yet they still go unpunished.

"Patently" illegal? :-)
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Sound LTSP esound ALSA

[Tom Allison]

I'm setting up LTSP clients.
Now that I have video, I want to move up to sound.
I'm using the kernel 2.6 ALSA sound on my Debian workstation (LTSP server)
The LTSP docs show something can be configured for esound, which might 
be my best bet.

Is there some kind of alsa -> esound emulator I can use under Debian to 
try and get this configuration (esound support) set up?

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Re: Kernel 2.4

[Michael Spang]

Andreas Janssen wrote:
Almost all other mainstream distibutions (Mandrake, Slackware, Fedora,
SuSE) install 2.6 by default. Knoppix comes with kernel 2.6 (although
you may have to activate it using a boot option). Debian Sarge comes
with kernel 2.6 (although I think right now the default installation
kernel is 2.4). The only mainstream distribution I know that does not
have kernel 2.6 is Debian Woody, the current stable release. It is
nearly 2 1/2 years old.
best regards
 Andreas Janssen
Interesting. I was aware of the option in both Knoppix and d-i etc to 
use 2.6. Will Sarge default to 2.6? Considering it hasn't been released 
yet it most certainly is not old. Maybe I had the wrong impression, 
however I always see posts where people are using 2.4, and some people I 
know go as far as to consider 2.4.27 the latest 'stable.' Many programs 
and [actively developed] drivers (cdrecord comes to mind) have only 
experimental 2.6 support -- this makes me think many developers haven't 
made the move. After all, how can you work on a driver while using a 
kernel which it doesn't properly support? Of course they could be 
working on that experimental support, but overall I had the general 
impression that they were clinging to 2.4; 2.6 is quite mature and the 
general slowness of the move to 2.6 probably gave me the wrong impression.

Anyway, thanks for your input. It's good to know I'm not an oddball for 
using the latest kernel, for a while I was sure there must have been 
something wrong with 2.6 which kept people from upgrading.

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(no subject)

[Hugo Tapia]

i finished to install debian linux 3.0 r2, but i have bot access to the 
console that running in gnome.
what i can do?
i only see de text mode console.
i used the debian instruction for installation, i use woody installation 
because i have 7 cd from debian.
thanks.
hugo tapia

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Re: framebuffer in 2.6.9, anybody got it working?

[Glyn Tebbutt]

On Fri, 2004-11-19 at 15:55 -0500, H. S. wrote:
> I have been trying to get frambuffer bootup work in 2.6.9 without 
> success so far. Cannot get the logo at all. Screen is blank till X 
> starts up. I have same experience on Sid machines, one uses nv driver 
> and the other ati.
> 
> If somebody has that high resolution screen boot up working with the tux 
> logo in 2.6.9, could you post the relevant parts of the .config file?
> 
> Thanks,
> ->HS
> 
> 
So far all ive been able to do is compile vesafb as a module and load
it, so once it gets loaded *the module that is* the screen will go into
framebuffer. I was considering trying just the vanilla sources without
the debian patches to see if its a patch thats conflicting, apart from
that, i get the same as you.

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Re: (no subject)

[Sergio Basurto Juarez]

--- Hugo Tapia <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> i finished to install debian linux 3.0 r2, but i
> have bot access to the 
> console that running in gnome.
> what i can do?
> i only see de text mode console.
> i used the debian instruction for installation, i
> use woody installation 
> because i have 7 cd from debian.
> thanks.
> hugo tapia

Which part of the installation do you finished. 
There are to installation phases, the first one
install the base system, once you boot your new
installation then it ask what else do you want to
install and base config runs!!!.
If you finish the first phase then type:
#base-config and follow the instructions.

If you finish both then try:
#startx 
as root and it should take you to xwindows interface
or send an error message.

If works have fun, else open an other thread and send
the error message that it sends.

Please next time put a subject. This make easy to
anyone that wants to help you, knows what kind of help
you are asking for.

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Re: Where are config questions in install of latest sarge, and other questions...

[Chris Lale]

On Fri, 2004-11-19 at 18:50, Williams, Allen wrote:
> I checked the debian site for sarge release notes, and if they're there, I 
> can't
> find 'em, so it's back to the mailing list;-)

The installation manual http://www.debian.org/doc/user-manuals#install
and the Debian Reference
http://www.debian.org/doc/user-manuals#quick-reference contain just
about all you want to know.

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RE: Where are config questions in install of latest sarge, and ot her questions...

[Chris Lale]

On Fri, 2004-11-19 at 19:27, Williams, Allen wrote:
> Matt,
> 
> Thanks for the help.  Another question:
> 
> 
> > again, the display manager (at least for gdm) has a setting where you can
> disable root logins.
> 
> Do you know where this is?

On the gdm login screen itself! Drop down the appropriate menu to
configure. It prompts for the root password. What could be easier?

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Re: have a question about /proc

[Chris Lale]

On Fri, 2004-11-19 at 20:35, Michael Spang wrote:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > I was browsing through my file system one day on my linux partition and 
> > noticed somthing that i never did before in the /proc directory. firstly 
> > what is this directory I now that it has somthing to do with the 
> > procedure file system what ever that is I dont know, secondly why does 
> > it duplicate my root directory and then create nested copies of it. they 
> > seem to go on endlessly what perpose does that serve just curiouse. 
> > Mabey its just my computer but I have tried differant linux 
> > distrobutions and the all seem to do the same thing. Oh and for the 
> > record I can not delete them any  at all very strange.?
> 
> 
> You can't delete anything in /proc because theres nothing to delete.. 
> the information is retrieved from memory and formatted when requested by 
> the kernel. If you examine it closely, you will see that only a few 
> files actually report a size. 'proc' stands for 'process,' not 
> procedure. This filesystem is important, as many commands need the 
> information in provides. The proc(5) manpage explains what many of the 
> files are. There are lots of symlinks and yes, you can follow them to 
> get ridiculously long paths for any of the files on your system like 
> /proc/self/root/proc/self/root/...

This reminds me. I cannot view /proc in Nautilus - even as root. Is
there a way to do it?

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Re: Trying to install alien made wxPython .deb package.

[Sergio Basurto Juarez]

--- Anthony Hoskins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> 
> Good day folks, 
> 
> I am trying to update my wxPython package so I can
> run Boa Constructor. 
> I have tried installing from source, but encountered
> some errors which I 
> don't remember now, but could probably replicate if
> need be. 
> 
> I also tried installing via apt-get, which left me
> with an outdated 
> distrobution of wxPython, and currently i'm getting
> the message when trying 
> to start Boa: Sorry! This version of Boa requires
> atleast wxPython 2.4.0.7
> 
> So I tried to get the packages from the wxPython
> site, but they only have 
> packages for Redhat, and I think Mandrake. I then
> tried to download and 
> convert with alien two packages: 
> 
> // redhat 9 package for gtk2-ansi Python 2.2: 
> alien --to-deb
> wxPython2.5-gtk2-ansi-2.5.3.1-rh9_py2.2.i386.rpm
> 
> //redhat 9 package for gtk-ansi python 2.2: 
> alien --to-deb
> wxpython2.5-gtk-ansi-2.5.3.1-rh9_py2.2.i386.rpm 
> 
> 
> the first pacakge for gtk2-ansi won't even work, but
> the second package for 
> gtk-ansi creates a new deb package just fine. This
> package can be run with 
> Package Manager it seems, but when I try to install
> them I get the following 
> errors: 
> 
> // BEGIN ERROR
> 
> <2.5-gtk-ansi-2.5.3.1-rh9_py2.2.i386.rpm;echo
> RESULT=$?
> error: cannot open Packages index using db3 - No
> such file or directory (2)
> error: cannot open Packages database in /var/lib/rpm
> RESULT=1
>  
> // END ERROR
> 
> I've tried using apt-get to get libdb3 but it says I
> already have the latest 
> version. Is this some kind of problem with the
> package trying to use a redhat 
> setup on a debian machine? If you know of a link to
> a site that already 
> discusses this, I could use it.
> 
> *note* a lot of my problems (not rpm problems) might
> be because this is the 
> runtime, and not the common release, however you can
> only install one version 
> of wxPython and I don't really know how to uninstall
> it. Will the common 
> release from apt-get work, or will I need to
> uninstall this completely?
> 
> If this post belongs better somewhere else, please
> let me know and I will 
> repost it accordingly. Thank you in advance for any
> time you take to help me 
> out.
> 
> P.S. I'm a complete newbie to Linux, so please bare
> with me.
> 
why don't you try?
#apt-cache search wxPython 
It will show a list of packages once you find the one
you need then:

#apt-get install [packages]

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Re: framebuffer in 2.6.9, anybody got it working?

[H. S.]

Glyn Tebbutt wrote:
On Fri, 2004-11-19 at 15:55 -0500, H. S. wrote:
I have been trying to get frambuffer bootup work in 2.6.9 without 
success so far. Cannot get the logo at all. Screen is blank till X 
starts up. I have same experience on Sid machines, one uses nv driver 
and the other ati.

If somebody has that high resolution screen boot up working with the tux 
logo in 2.6.9, could you post the relevant parts of the .config file?

Thanks,
->HS

So far all ive been able to do is compile vesafb as a module and load
it, so once it gets loaded *the module that is* the screen will go into
framebuffer. I was considering trying just the vanilla sources without
the debian patches to see if its a patch thats conflicting, apart from
that, i get the same as you.
No luck with that either. I did as you mentioned above and tried by 
putting first vesafb into /etc/modules and then aty128fb (the computer 
has ATI Rage 128 Ultra TF card:
VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc Rage 128 Pro Ultra TF)

The screen scrolls in lower resolution mode(80x25) till the last line is 
something about ACPI starting. Basically it is the first screenful. Then 
nothing happens till X starts. After X starts, I do not get any text 
mode (ALT+Fn where 1<=n<=7).

However, currently I am using the Debian kernal image for 2.6.9 and in 
that vga=791 does give higher resolution screen, but no tux logo :(

I am considering copying the Debian 2.6.9 and then compiling the kernel 
again (I just wanted to do away with OSS modules) and by leaving the 
framebuffer stuff untouched.

->HS

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Re: Trying to install alien made wxPython .deb package.

[Sergio Basurto Juarez]

--- Sergio Basurto Juarez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> 
> --- Anthony Hoskins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> > 
> > Good day folks, 
> > 
> > I am trying to update my wxPython package so I can
> > run Boa Constructor. 
> > I have tried installing from source, but
> encountered
> > some errors which I 
> > don't remember now, but could probably replicate
> if
> > need be. 
> > 
> > I also tried installing via apt-get, which left me
> > with an outdated 
> > distrobution of wxPython, and currently i'm
> getting
> > the message when trying 
> > to start Boa: Sorry! This version of Boa requires
> > atleast wxPython 2.4.0.7
> > 
> > So I tried to get the packages from the wxPython
> > site, but they only have 
> > packages for Redhat, and I think Mandrake. I then
> > tried to download and 
> > convert with alien two packages: 
> > 
> > // redhat 9 package for gtk2-ansi Python 2.2: 
> > alien --to-deb
> > wxPython2.5-gtk2-ansi-2.5.3.1-rh9_py2.2.i386.rpm
> > 
> > //redhat 9 package for gtk-ansi python 2.2: 
> > alien --to-deb
> > wxpython2.5-gtk-ansi-2.5.3.1-rh9_py2.2.i386.rpm   
>  
> > 
> > 
> > the first pacakge for gtk2-ansi won't even work,
> but
> > the second package for 
> > gtk-ansi creates a new deb package just fine. This
> > package can be run with 
> > Package Manager it seems, but when I try to
> install
> > them I get the following 
> > errors: 
> > 
> > // BEGIN ERROR
> > 
> > <2.5-gtk-ansi-2.5.3.1-rh9_py2.2.i386.rpm;echo
> > RESULT=$?
> > error: cannot open Packages index using db3 - No
> > such file or directory (2)
> > error: cannot open Packages database in
> /var/lib/rpm
> > RESULT=1
> >  
> > // END ERROR
> > 
> > I've tried using apt-get to get libdb3 but it says
> I
> > already have the latest 
> > version. Is this some kind of problem with the
> > package trying to use a redhat 
> > setup on a debian machine? If you know of a link
> to
> > a site that already 
> > discusses this, I could use it.
> > 
> > *note* a lot of my problems (not rpm problems)
> might
> > be because this is the 
> > runtime, and not the common release, however you
> can
> > only install one version 
> > of wxPython and I don't really know how to
> uninstall
> > it. Will the common 
> > release from apt-get work, or will I need to
> > uninstall this completely?
> > 
> > If this post belongs better somewhere else, please
> > let me know and I will 
> > repost it accordingly. Thank you in advance for
> any
> > time you take to help me 
> > out.
> > 
> > P.S. I'm a complete newbie to Linux, so please
> bare
> > with me.
> > 
> why don't you try?
> #apt-cache search wxPython 
> It will show a list of packages once you find the
> one
> you need then:
> 
> #apt-get install [packages]
> 
> Regards.
Sorry I missed the part where you say that already try
this!!

Which version of Debian are you using?

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Re: sound driver

[Jason Rennie]

On Thu, Nov 18, 2004 at 11:51:22AM -0700, Justin Guerin wrote:
> Sounds like you have a DMA or IRQ problem.  Can you check which DMA and IRQ 
> channels are assigned during Knoppix boot, and during Debian boot?  You may 
> have to tell the sound module to use a specific IRQ when it's loaded.  I 
> had to do the same thing with my ISA card, when I first configured it.  I 
> just went down the list of available IRQs before I got to one that worked.

Did some reading on the subject.  The Sound How-To confirms your suspicisions:

  Another symptom is sound samples that loop. This is usually caused
  by an IRQ conflict.

The Boot Prompt How-To has information on boot arguments, but they
don't seem to work.  I tried both "sound=22" and "snd-via82xx=22"
(after making sure I had alsa-modules-2.4.27-1-686 installed), but the
card gets configured with IRQ 18.  Here's the dmesg output:

Via 686a/8233/8235 audio driver 1.9.1-ac3
via82cxxx: Six channel audio available
PCI: Setting latency timer of device 00:11.5 to 64
ac97_codec: AC97 Audio codec, id: VIA97 (Unknown)
via82cxxx: board #1 at 0xE000, IRQ 18

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ cat /proc/cmdline 
root=/dev/hdb2 ro snd-via82xx=22

Any ideas what else I should try?

Many thanks,

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Re: Postfix + SASL + Amavis-new + ClamAV + Courier-(imap, imap-ssl, maildrop) problems.

[Josh Metzler]

On Tuesday 16 November 2004 07:12 pm, Ralph Crongeyer wrote:
> Hi all,
> I just got my system up and running (went from Mandrake to Debian) and
> i'm having problems getting Postfix to authenticate with saslauthd.
> This is on a "Testing"/"Sarge" system.
> To check that sasl is working, I used the testsaslauthd command:
> testsaslauthd -u my-username -p my-password
> -f /var/spool/postfix/var/run/saslauthd/mux
> and I get:
> 0: OK "Success."
>
> However when I do this:
> perl -MMIME::Base64 -e 'print encode_base64
> ("my-username\0my-username\0my-password");'
>
> It returns this:
> dXNlcm5hbWUAdXNlcm5hbWUAcGFzc3dvcmQ=
>
> Then I:
> telnet server 25
> EHLO server
>
> Then issue this:
> AUTH PLAIN dXNlcm5hbWUAdXNlcm5hbWUAcGFzc3dvcmQ=
>
> I get:
> 535 Error: authentication failed
>
> Here's a snip of my mail.log file:
> Begin Snip--
> Nov 16 15:57:56 server postfix/smtpd[11993]: starting TLS engine
> Nov 16 15:57:56 server postfix/smtpd[11993]: TLS engine: do need at least
> RSA _or_ DSA cert/key data
> Nov 16 15:57:56 server postfix/smtpd[11993]: connect from
> server.mydomain.com[192.168.10.100]
> Nov 16 15:58:56 server postfix/smtpd[11993]: warning: SASL authentication
> failure: Can only find author (no password)
> Nov 16 15:58:56 server postfix/smtpd[11993]: warning:
> server.mydomain.com[192.168.10.100]: SASL PLAIN authentication failed
> Nov 16 15:59:24 server postfix/smtpd[11993]: disconnect from
> server.mydomain.com[192.168.10.100]
> --End Snip
>
> I can't relay/send messages when logged in securely becayse I'm not being
> authentaced.
> I need some help getting this working.
>
> Thanks
> Ralph

I'm not sure what steps you have taken to get this setup, but I found 
http://lists.q-linux.com/pipermail/plug/2003-July/029503.html very helpful.

it looks like you have at least copied /var/run/saslauthd 
to /var/spool/postfix/var/run/.

Did you also then make /var/run/saslauthd a symlink to postfix's chroot?
Did you edit /etc/postfix/sasl/smtpd.conf to contain the authentication 
methods?
etc.

I hope this helps,
Josh


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Re: have a question about /proc

[Michael Spang]

Chris Lale wrote:
 > This reminds me. I cannot view /proc in Nautilus - even as root. Is
there a way to do it?
Chris.
Works for me.. does nothing appear or do you get an error?
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