Re: Where can I find the files for a floppy image

2001-10-03 Thread Rino Mardo
On Tue, Oct 02, 2001 at 10:39:58AM -0700, Mike Towery wrote:
> I am new to Debian and Linux.  My cd-rom based version
> of Debian is not booting.  Where can I find the floppy
> disk boot disk image?
> 
in the CD itself.  look for the directory disks-i386.

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Re: OT: netfilter inquiry

2001-10-03 Thread Rino Mardo
On Tue, Oct 02, 2001 at 06:29:36PM +0200, Peter Palmreuther wrote:
[...]
> 
> I don't know if this is a really good idea. I'd rather test and try to break
> it down to the _real_ problem.
> Flushing the tables as 'iptables -F' does will be important one day you do not
> further think about you've deleted the line :-)
hehe i don't want that day to come so i've reinstated the flush line.

[...]
> 
> INFO should be '6', you may want to have a look into
> 
> /usr/include/sys/syslog.h
> 
> What else could help is setting the level to 'INFO' rather than 'info' ...
> IIRC I've read something similar some time ago that lower case levels aren't
> recognized properly. Would you mind giving it a try and re-report in?
> 
i tried "INFO" and still says ambiguous.  using the numerical "6" works.

so it's the line "$IPT -X firewall" that's causing that message to
appear.  it should as there's no chain by that name to start deleting
with.  i should have seen that.

thanks for all the help.

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Re: list etiquette

2001-10-03 Thread Rino Mardo
On Wed, Oct 03, 2001 at 12:21:59AM +0200, Robert Waldner wrote:
[...]
> 
> Any comments on the topic of forging addresses[0]?
> 
> 0: No, this isn't personal, either, just an attempt to get back 
>  on-topic.
> 
i've only read a couple of messages in this thread and all i can say is
forging addresses, no matter what your intention is, is not a welcome
thought.

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bind pop/ftp/sendmail to a port?

2001-10-03 Thread Ian Marlier
I'm running a machine with multiple ethernet interfaces.  The box 
runs sendmail, pop, and ftp...but I can't figure out how to make any 
of them bind to a specific one of the eth ports...it's not 
documented!  Help!


ipop2d, ipop3d, and ftpd are all run out of inetd.  Sendmail runs as a daemon.

- Ian


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Re: (OT) non-proprietary software merits

2001-10-03 Thread Jaye Inabnit ke6sls
>this is off-list but I hope that you will make a summary and post it
>back to the list...
>
> erik

   Greetings,

I received some fantastic information and url's. I'm still following up on 
these. I *Will* post the compiled data that I condense and submit. I am very 
grateful to each of you that responded.

I'll be searching google for a while tring to locate some of the posted 
references I have read about governments switching to open sourced products 
etc. I think lwn.net could be a great resource here. If you have any 
canned/stored urls, I certainly welcome them.

Thank you all again; You RULE!

tatah and 73

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how to download debian

2001-10-03 Thread Suresh Kumar R
Hi,

I tried downloading debian using psudo image kit. Many servers I tried didnt 
allow downloading. It just stops connecting. Somesites allows to download upto 
a few Mbs and then halts. Reconnection doesnt help

Where can we download it from?

Thanks

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Re: how to download debian

2001-10-03 Thread George Karaolides

Hi, 

re. your following:

On Wed, 3 Oct 2001, Suresh Kumar R wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> I tried downloading debian using psudo image kit. 
> Many servers I tried didnt allow downloading. It just stops connecting. 
> Somesites allows to download upto a few Mbs and then halts. Reconnection 
> doesnt help
> 
> Where can we download it from?
> 
> Thanks

I think it's a much better idea to download the distribution package by
package, rather than a big image.  Especially if you don't have a *very*
fast internet connection.  You will have the big advantage that you can
keep your mirror up to date without downloading another huge image.  All
this is automated in Debian and not tedious at all.

Debian has tools which allow you to download the distribution on an "as
needed" basis, and organise the packages in a local partial mirror of the
Debian site.  You can keep extending and updating your mirror as you
download and install more packages.

To start with, all you need is the installation boot ("rescue"), root and
driver floppuy images; if you choose the "compact" dist. that's just three
floppies.  During installation, tell the installer to install the kernel 
and drivers from floppy, and use the floppies you made.  Then choose to
install the base system from the network and the installer will download 
the base system for you, which is only a dozen megs or so.  You can then
put this on a local webserver so that any further machines you build
will download it from your local net instead of the Internet.

After that, tell the installer to download the core packages from the net.
They will be cached on disk and you can use apt-move to move these to a
directory which will become your local partial Debian mirror.

If you try this and need more help, post again in this thread and I'll do
my best.

Best regards,

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RE: Beam Internet

2001-10-03 Thread Andy Laurence
> > Here in Canada there is a similar service starting at
> CAD$40 /month  :-)
> >
> >  http://www.expressvu.ca
> >
> > You need to also subcribe to Bell Expressvu TV (Satellite dish).
>
> OMG, goto http://www.expressvu.ca/en/aboutdirecpc.html .. that looks
> horrible. Using a modem to send the requests out, and the dish to
> receieve the content.
>
> This just has proprietary-windows-software written all over
> it. I would
> assume the European Beam Internet would be the exact same setup.

There is something similar in the UK, although it's £10 a month.  I can't
remember the name of the company though.  It was a 2Mbps down with a modem
uplink.  Not bad for unmetered downloads I suppose, but useless for anything
else.

Andy



Re: Mozilla is so slow! Problem with my upgrade to 2.2r3?

2001-10-03 Thread xio
> On Tue, 2 Oct 2001, Peter Christensen wrote:
> 
> 
>   Oh my.  You're going to get a lot of responses telling you to
> upgrade; but my guess is that you're problems stems from low RAM.  On
> 32 MB of RAM, you're going to start running deep into virtual memory
> because of Mozilla's big footprint.  I've heard good things about Galeon,
> but on your computer, you may just want to stick with lynx-ssl.
> 

Try running 'vmstat N', where N is a reasonable interval like 5 seconds.
"vmstat  reports  information about processes, memory, paging, block IO,
traps, and cpu activity." (man vmstat)

If you constantly get lots of SIs and SOs (swap in/out) then your system
is running low on memory.

Here's an example from a system with 64 MB, starting mozilla:

$ vmstat 5
   procs  memoryswap  io system
cpu
 r  b  w   swpd   free   buff  cache  si  sobibo   incs  us sy  id
 0  0  0332   2388   2564  31256   0   0 3 2  273   277   1 1  98
 0  0  0328   2384   2564  31256   0   0 0 0  505   493   1 3  96
 1  0  0684   1292   2612  30304   0  71   49833  440   479  22 4  74
 1  0  0684   1216   1428  29692   0   0   340 0  277   283  13 2  85
 1  0  0728   1324   1316  26724   0   965 2  246   267  73 3  25
 1  0  0908   1312   1340  24640  32  36   136 9  848   827  34 6  60
 0  0  0908   1752   1376  23672   0   028 0  341   338  13 2  85
 1  0  0908   1444   1312  23492   0   034 0  688   704  20 3  77
 2  0  0908   1280   1492  23492   0   0 016  319   339   2 1  97 

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Re: short reference for Unix commands

2001-10-03 Thread Alexander Steinert
Sorry for not being precisely enough:

Rather than introductory docs I'm looking for a _short_ reference of
Unix / Linux commands. The best would be _one_ table with all command
names and descriptions and maybe links to the man pages.

Stony



exim config for site

2001-10-03 Thread Timothy Ball
I now have several computers on a network and I would like for all of
them to act smartly together on a network. I have a parisc box acting as
the main email server to send and recieve email, it works properly
rewriting the hostname and everything. The part that doesn't work is
setting up all the client machines as satilite (sp?) systems to send
email thru the main server... 

What I was hopeing for is for someone to send me they're exim.conf files
so that I can examine then and figure this out... currently when I send
email from the satilite systems I get an immediate error back w/ a 550
error... 

I think it's because the main server has this in the config: 
--snip--snip--snip--
relay_domains = monkeys-boning.apt
relay_domains_include_local_mx = true
host_accept_relay = 127.0.0.1 : 1
--snip--snip--snip--

I'm unsure of what the host_accept_relay should be set too... 

any help would be apperciated.

TIA,
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Printing in Linux

2001-10-03 Thread Erlend Bjørnson Barkbu
I've got a Hp Laserjet 5 in my network, it is shared on a printserver to all 
the windows-machines on the network by its WINS-name 
(//server/printer-of-some-sort) .

How can I use this printer?

I've tried to use samba, but I cant get it right

Does anyone have a suggestion?

Thanks

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Re: SSH port forwarding

2001-10-03 Thread Vineet Kumar
* Failure ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [011002 10:23]:
> I have some boxes behind a firewall that I need access to from the internet.
> I don't control the firewall, so I thought I would try to use OpenSSH 
> port forwarding.  I have placed "GatewayPorts yes" in the outside machine's
> sshd_config.  The boxes involved both use Debian with OpenSSH 2.9p2.
> I connect like this (from the firewalled machine):
> 
> ssh -g -C -R 3001:firewalled_machine:22 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
> I can now connect to 3001 on the outside machine, but the connection doesn't
> do anything and is quickly closed.  I've tried ports besides 22 with the same
> results, but with ssh I get this familiar message:
> 
> $ ssh -C -p 3001 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> ssh_exchange_identification: Connection closed by remote host
> 
> Can anyone help?

The first thing to try is to change firewalled_machine to localhost or
another name that resolves to a local address that would be allowed by a
firewall that blocks all but loopback traffic to sshd.

Probably that's not the case; people generally allow sshd to accept
connections.  From here, I'd try a couple of different things: use
telnet or netcat to connect and see what you see. You should get
something like
SSH-1.99-OpenSSH_2.9p2

(the sshd's version string). If it doesn't even get that far, try it
locally -- instead of connecting through the tunnel, just try telnet
localhost 22 on the firewalled machine. Is it really accepting
connections? If so, maybe you should try your tunnel setup on different
ports using netcat:

firewalled_host$ nc -l -p 
firewalled_host$ ssh -g -R 3001:localhost: outside_host
outside_host$ nc -p  localhost

basically, my advice is to simplify and test incrementally until you
can find out exactly how far it works. If the above tests work. try
connecting from another outside host to outside_host instead of from
localhost. IF that fails, you know it's a gatewayports problem. It seems
like you're saying that part works, but you get the idea. The next test
would be to see if it works to your listening netcat but not to sshd.

Sorry, this advice is very general and is not the answer you may have
been looking for, but I hope it helps you track down the problem and
solve it.

good times,

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Re: Mozilla is so slow! Problem with my upgrade to 2.2r3?

2001-10-03 Thread Frank Zimmermann

Simon Law wrote:


On Tue, 2 Oct 2001, Peter Christensen wrote:



Anyway, I thought I would post this question here just in case it's an
obvious, easily fixed problem.   Otherwise, I'll just re-install from a
new set of disks.  By the way, my computer is a Pentium 200 MHz, with 32
MB of RAM.  Is this too antiquated to run Mozilla, or perhaps Gnome or
Galeon eventually???



Oh my.  You're going to get a lot of responses telling you to
upgrade; but my guess is that you're problems stems from low RAM.  On
32 MB of RAM, you're going to start running deep into virtual memory
because of Mozilla's big footprint.  I've heard good things about Galeon,
but on your computer, you may just want to stick with lynx-ssl.

Simon


Or you could try Opera. It's c;osed source thought but a very nice and 
fast browser. It runs reasonably fast (means faster than Netscape) on my 
P133 with 80MB RAM.

You can get .debs from the Operasite: http://www.opera.com

Frank




(no subject)

2001-10-03 Thread Tarjei Huse
unsubscribe



Re: SPAM WARNING: spammers use Debian lists for harvesting

2001-10-03 Thread Ailbhe Leamy
On (03/10/01 00:03), [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> This probably isn't news to most people, but I though I'd go on the
> record here with a warning:
> 
>   If you subscribe to and use Debian mailing lists, you WILL get
>   spam.

If you post to any mailing list with archives on the web you are likely
to have your address harvested by spammers. This is not news.

Ailbhe

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RE: SPAM WARNING: spammers use Debian lists for harvesting

2001-10-03 Thread jgp
>= Original Message From Ailbhe Leamy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> =
>If you post to any mailing list with archives on the web you are likely
>to have your address harvested by spammers. This is not news.

Yeah, knee-jerk reaction on my behalf, but I would have appreciated
having the connection between lists and spam made to me when I signed
up, so, I make it now to anyone who might be tempted to use
their primary e-mail address for this or any list: don't.

James.



Re: Mozilla is so slow! Problem with my upgrade to 2.2r3?

2001-10-03 Thread Anthony Campbell
On 03 Oct 2001, Frank Zimmermann wrote:
> Simon Law wrote:
> 
> >On Tue, 2 Oct 2001, Peter Christensen wrote:
> >
> >>
> >>Anyway, I thought I would post this question here just in case it's an
> >>obvious, easily fixed problem.   Otherwise, I'll just re-install from a
> >>new set of disks.  By the way, my computer is a Pentium 200 MHz, with 32
> >>MB of RAM.  Is this too antiquated to run Mozilla, or perhaps Gnome or
> >>Galeon eventually???
> >>
> >
> > Oh my.  You're going to get a lot of responses telling you to
> >upgrade; but my guess is that you're problems stems from low RAM.  On
> >32 MB of RAM, you're going to start running deep into virtual memory
> >because of Mozilla's big footprint.  I've heard good things about Galeon,
> >but on your computer, you may just want to stick with lynx-ssl.
> >
> >Simon
> >
> >
> Or you could try Opera. It's c;osed source thought but a very nice and 
> fast browser. It runs reasonably fast (means faster than Netscape) on my 
> P133 with 80MB RAM.
> You can get .debs from the Operasite: http://www.opera.com
> 
> Frank
> 

Don't really get on with Opera myself. I always seem to come back to
Netscape in the end, with all its faults. The 4.7 versions seem to crash
less often than earlier ones. Mind you, I prefer Lynx to any of them and
use it when I can, especially for downloads.

Anthony

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Re: SPAM WARNING: spammers use Debian lists for harvesting

2001-10-03 Thread martin f krafft
also sprach [EMAIL PROTECTED] (on Wed, 03 Oct 2001 05:32:49AM -0400):
> Yeah, knee-jerk reaction on my behalf, but I would have appreciated
> having the connection between lists and spam made to me when I signed
> up, so, I make it now to anyone who might be tempted to use
> their primary e-mail address for this or any list: don't.

... that's why you post it to the list, just in case someone reads the
list email before wanting to be subscribed. smart.

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mutt doesn't know about procmail actions

2001-10-03 Thread Rory Campbell-Lange
I've got a procmail rc file redirecting my mail either to one or other
mailbox or otherwise to my /Mail/mbox mailbox.

Mutt by default views the contents of my mail spool
(/var/spool/mail/myname) rather than my mbox.

Should I repoint mutt to my mbox, by default? How should I do this?
Also, how can mutt know that there is unread mail in other folders?

Thanks for any help.
Rory



aptitude: unrecoverable missing packages

2001-10-03 Thread Gerald Richter
Hello Debian users!

the upgrade to just the ssh2 package seems to be connected with some
wide ranging dependencies...

system:

Linux merlin 2.2.19pre17c #1 Fri Sep 28 13:44:24 CEST 2001 i686 unknown
potato

was trying to install the ssh2 package by getting package from
packages.debian.org, then, when attempting to satisfy dependencies using
aptitude, after altering sources.list to include the woody packages,
having a go. aptitude gets several packages and afterwards gives me:

Unrecoverable missing packages.  Press any key to continue...

how to find out which packages these are?

is there an ssh2d package to use?

thanx,
Gerald.



Re: SPAM WARNING: spammers use Debian lists for harvesting

2001-10-03 Thread Johnny Ernst Nielsen
>This probably isn't news to most people, but I though I'd go on the
>record here with a warning:
>
>  If you subscribe to and use Debian mailing lists, you WILL get
>  spam.

This is not new I'm afraid.
And warning people _on_ the list is not well thought through.
I imagine the minority of the list readers are _not_ subscribed.
If you feel this issue should be clarified to people _before_ they subscribe,
you should take it up with whomever keeps an eye on the list, and have a
note added to the subscription page.
Such a missing note seems to be what was your problem in the first place.


>I know this after getting hit over the last few weeks to an e-mail
>account that I *only* use for personal correspondance. I also foolishly

>subscribed to this list a while ago (different e-mail account),
>and now I get around 10 spams a day straight into my primary mailbox.
>

Well, I'm afraid you didn't think properly.
Anyone subscribing to any public mailing list is capable of extracting the
other subscribers' email addresses from the list.

>While there is nothing stopping a spammer manually subscribing to
>the list to harvest addresses, [snip]

See above.

>...the list archives show addresses in the
>clear...

I don't know many lists that _don't_.

>  Use only a secondary, 'disposable' account for Debian lists.

Unfair.
The proper advice is: Use only a secondary, 'disposable' account for mailing
lists, if you want to be sure to be able to control spam.

>I managed to stay 'clean' for nearly 9 months to my primary account, now

>I'm spitting chips at the vision of my e-mail address brunt onto some
>get-rich-quick-marketting-tool CD-R.

Look at the bright side: you just grew a little wiser.

Cheers

Johnny :o)



Re: SPAM WARNING: spammers use Debian lists for harvesting

2001-10-03 Thread Alex Hunsley


[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> 
> >= Original Message From Ailbhe Leamy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> =
> >If you post to any mailing list with archives on the web you are likely
> >to have your address harvested by spammers. This is not news.
> 
> Yeah, knee-jerk reaction on my behalf, but I would have appreciated
> having the connection between lists and spam made to me when I signed
> up, so, I make it now to anyone who might be tempted to use
> their primary e-mail address for this or any list: don't.

Exactly. People say it's "obvious" but other people are getting caught
out so it's obviously not "obvious". And what harm does it do to say in
the subscription email that a) you may get spam, and b) these posts go
to usenet? Hardly going to harm anyone, and potentially will be useful.

alex

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Re: SPAM WARNING: spammers use Debian lists for harvesting

2001-10-03 Thread Alex Hunsley


martin f krafft wrote:
> 
> also sprach [EMAIL PROTECTED] (on Wed, 03 Oct 2001 05:32:49AM -0400):
> > Yeah, knee-jerk reaction on my behalf, but I would have appreciated
> > having the connection between lists and spam made to me when I signed
> > up, so, I make it now to anyone who might be tempted to use
> > their primary e-mail address for this or any list: don't.
> 
> ... that's why you post it to the list, just in case someone reads the
> list email before wanting to be subscribed. smart.

Less sarcasm young man. Many people may find this list via the debian
users newsgroup, which can be read by anyone, subscribed or not. Also
the archives can be read before subscribing.

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Re: mutt doesn't know about procmail actions

2001-10-03 Thread xio
On Wed, Oct 03, 2001 at 11:10:49AM +0100, Rory Campbell-Lange wrote:
> I've got a procmail rc file redirecting my mail either to one or other
> mailbox or otherwise to my /Mail/mbox mailbox.
> 
> Mutt by default views the contents of my mail spool
> (/var/spool/mail/myname) rather than my mbox.
> 
> Should I repoint mutt to my mbox, by default? How should I do this?
> Also, how can mutt know that there is unread mail in other folders?
> 
> Thanks for any help.
> Rory

Put the following into .muttrc:

set mail_check=5
set folder=~/Mail
mailboxes ! +mbox

$ man muttrc

[...]
   mailboxes filename [ filename ... ]
  This  command  specifies  folders which can receive
  mail and which will be checked  for  new  messages.
  When  changing  folders,  pressing space will cycle
  through folders with new mail.
[...]
   mail_check
  Type: number
  Default: 5

  This  variable  configures  how  often (in seconds)
  mutt should look for new mail.
[...]
   folder
  Type: path
  Default: "~/Mail"

  Specifies  the  default location of your mailboxes.
  A `+' or `=' at the beginning of a pathname will be
  expanded  to the value of this variable.  Note that
  if you change this variable from the default  value
  you  need  to  make sure that the assignment occurs
  before you use `+' or `=' for any  other  variables
  since  expansion  takes place during the `set' com­
  mand.

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Re: SPAM WARNING: spammers use Debian lists for harvesting

2001-10-03 Thread P Kirk
On Wed, Oct 03, 2001 at 05:32:49AM -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>>= Original Message From Ailbhe Leamy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> =
>>If you post to any mailing list with archives on the web you are likely
>>to have your address harvested by spammers. This is not news.
>
>Yeah, knee-jerk reaction on my behalf, but I would have appreciated
>having the connection between lists and spam made to me when I signed
>up, so, I make it now to anyone who might be tempted to use
>their primary e-mail address for this or any list: don't.
>
Spam on the Internet is like weeds in a garden.  You can avoid both but
only if you don't do much on the Net or in the garden.

A more sensible approach is to assume you will be bombarded with offers
of Viagra, of bouncing Asian teen babes and spy software.  Altruistic
souls troubled by your poverty will offer chances to make billions.  You
know they really are altruists because otherwise they would make the
money themselves instead of taking the time and care to share the secret
of infinite dollars with you.

Now armed with this assumption, set up a .procmailrc or .forward to block
them.  To get you started, my .forward which has a way of scoring mail
to filter spam is attached.  I get a certain malign pleasure out of
checking my junlmail inbox from time to time just to have the
satisfaction of having the filter work the way I want.

Patrick
# Exim filter
# Error trapping
if error_message then finish endif

logfile $home/log.email 0644 # ... so i can still "mailstat ~/mail.log" 

# Allow postmaster access
if $original_local_part is postmaster
then save $home/mail/ehr
logwrite "[$tod_log] ${lc:$h_From:} ${lc:$h_Subject:}: Postmaster"
endif


# All that pesty useful info from root and cron...
if $h_From: contains "root"
then save $home/rootmail
logwrite "[$tod_log]: Root message"
endif

# Scoring spam filters
# See if we can filter rubbish while allowing the few legitimate aol and
# hotmail users through.

# Note - this is copied from an Exim site.

# If we find a "mailto:"; link for which the address is not 
# the same as the sender address or return path. 
if( ${lc:$message_body} matches
"ashref=(['\"])mailto:([EMAIL PROTECTED]@[EMAIL PROTECTED])\$1" and
$2 is not {$lc:$return_path} and $2 is not
{$lc:$sender_address})
then
add 60 to n9
endif

if(${lc:$sender_address} matches
"([a-zd]+)@(lycos|hotmail|aol|yahoo|msn).co(..*|m)" and $1
matches \\d) 
then
add 40 to n9
endif

# html mail
if (${lc:$message_body} matches "")
then
add 60 to n9
endif

# javascript mail
if (${lc:$message_body} matches "

Re: SPAM WARNING: spammers use Debian lists for harvesting

2001-10-03 Thread martin f krafft
also sprach Alex Hunsley (on Wed, 03 Oct 2001 11:41:50AM +0100):
> Less sarcasm young man. Many people may find this list via the debian
> users newsgroup, which can be read by anyone, subscribed or not. Also
> the archives can be read before subscribing.

usenet, well, maybe... but archives are usually searched, not browsed.
in any case, i would like to apologize for my sarcasm.

> to email me, remove the BLOCK from addressS

however, this is both obnoxious, and useless - the mass mailers that i
have seen (no, i am not a spammer) have features that check for a wide
variety of such blocks, and successfully remove them...

martin;  (greetings from the heart of the sun.)
  \ echo mailto: !#^."<*>"|tr "<*> mailto:"; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Re: CUPS does not have samba support.

2001-10-03 Thread Brian Stults

Oleksandr Moskalenko wrote:



 How would you go about printing to a remote printer on a WinNT
without CUPS? I have it working beautifully through CUPS/smbclient, but
CUPS is too heavy memorywise on my old laptop. I couldn't find any info
on the web on how to do it without CUPS, though.
  


I use cups now, too, but in the past I printed using smbprint.  The old 
version of printtool did a good job of helping me modify my printcap. 
There's a newer version of printtool now, more native to debian I 
suppose, as the old one was a port of RH's tool.  I bet it still does a 
good job, though.



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Re: mutt doesn't know about procmail actions

2001-10-03 Thread martin f krafft
also sprach Rory Campbell-Lange (on Wed, 03 Oct 2001 11:10:49AM +0100):
> Should I repoint mutt to my mbox, by default? How should I do this?
> Also, how can mutt know that there is unread mail in other folders?

ever tries the manual?

probably the best thing is a line like

export MAIL=~/Mail/mbox   in .bash_profile

or, if you are using tcsh (why???)

setenv MAIL ~/Mail/mbox.

then go to www.mutt.org and browse the online manual for the
"mailboxes" configuration command.

martin;  (greetings from the heart of the sun.)
  \ echo mailto: !#^."<*>"|tr "<*> mailto:"; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Re: SPAM WARNING: spammers use Debian lists for harvesting

2001-10-03 Thread Petr \[Dingo\] Dvorak
On Wed, 3 Oct 2001 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> I managed to stay 'clean' for nearly 9 months to my primary account, now
> I'm spitting chips at the vision of my e-mail address brunt onto some
> get-rich-quick-marketting-tool CD-R.  :-(

eh, even if you haven't subscribed to any mailing list, there is a good chance
that your isp sells your email to make little extra profit, install mailfilter
and/or procmail, set up some rules and you won't have that much of a problem.

Dingo.


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Delay and jitter generator for Debian? Like Dummynet

2001-10-03 Thread Tapio Lehtonen
Is there among the Debian packages something like Dummynet
http://www.iet.unipi.it/~luigi/ip_dummynet/, ie. delay and jitter
simulator for testing network applications under varying conditions? 

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Re: SPAM WARNING: spammers use Debian lists for harvesting

2001-10-03 Thread Alex Hunsley


martin f krafft wrote:
> > to email me, remove the BLOCK from addressS
> 
> however, this is both obnoxious, and useless - the mass mailers that i
> have seen (no, i am not a spammer) have features that check for a wide
> variety of such blocks, and successfully remove them...

What's obnoxious about it? I don't want spam, dad. It's that simple.
Also, I was having a discussion on usenet recently on this very subject
- the capabilities of spam bots - and I was advising people that address
trawlers probably by now could see past things like a capital words like
BLOCK or REMOVE in an address. Many people wrote back saying "I use the
word REMOVE in my address all the time and have yet to receive spam", so
anecdotally, most trawlers aren't that good yet. (Although it wouldn't
be hard to make them that good).

alex

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Re: Printing in Linux

2001-10-03 Thread Angus D Madden
On Wed, Oct 03, 2001 at 10:30:25AM +0200, Erlend Bj?rnson Barkbu wrote:
> I've got a Hp Laserjet 5 in my network, it is shared on a printserver to all 
> the windows-machines on the network by its WINS-name 
> (//server/printer-of-some-sort) .
> 
> How can I use this printer?
> 
> I've tried to use samba, but I cant get it right
> 
> Does anyone have a suggestion?
>

apt-get install printtool is a good start.  it's a piece of software
from redhat which should do most everything for you.

g



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Re: SPAM WARNING: spammers use Debian lists for harvesting

2001-10-03 Thread Robert Waldner

On Wed, 03 Oct 2001 13:03:36 BST, Alex Hunsley writes:
>What's obnoxious about it? I don't want spam, dad. It's that simple.

Almost nobody wants spam. It's that simple.

But such is life. I also don't want advertising in my physical mailbox 
 (and yes, this also costs the recipient money. My house, for example, 
 could do without the second paper-container, which costs approx. $400/
 year, would they cut down on sending those fscking brochures).

>Also, I was having a discussion on usenet recently on this very subject
>- the capabilities of spam bots - and I was advising people that address
>trawlers probably by now could see past things like a capital words like
>BLOCK or REMOVE in an address. Many people wrote back saying "I use the
>word REMOVE in my address all the time and have yet to receive spam", so
>anecdotally, most trawlers aren't that good yet. (Although it wouldn't
>be hard to make them that good).

Of course it would be easy to make such bots a little bit more 
 intelligent. But why bother? Also, most spammers probably don't target 
 people who already have formed an opinion against it, their main 
 targets are AOL- & -newbies, anyway.

If you believe in using fake addresses, why not use something like
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] This doesn't (and probably won't) exist, so you 
 have the benefit of a faked address but don't simply shove the load 
 unto someone else.

As for addresses: the *best* option IMHO are expiring hostnames, eg 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]

cheers,
&rw
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Re: recent woody upgrades leave me unable to use X as ROOT!

2001-10-03 Thread Alejandro Diego Garin
On Wednesday 03 October 2001 01:31, John Foster wrote:
> I have recently upgradeed my Woody boxes I have 2 and now I can not log
> into my gnome-kde enlightenment system as root. I could do that before
> the last upgrade. A new bug maybe??
> John

look at /etc/X11/gdm/gdm.conf

[..]
[security]
AllowRoot=false
[..]

Change this to True

Anyway, don't use the root account! 

cheers,

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Re: SPAM WARNING: spammers use Debian lists for harvesting

2001-10-03 Thread martin f krafft
also sprach Alex Hunsley (on Wed, 03 Oct 2001 01:03:36PM +0100):
> What's obnoxious about it? I don't want spam, dad. It's that simple.

maybe obnoxious is not the right word, and hey, i don't want to start
a flame war... but i almost replied to you in person without noticing
it, and that would have caused a 30 minute delay or so as well as
extra trouble...

> Also, I was having a discussion on usenet recently on this very subject
> - the capabilities of spam bots - and I was advising people that address
> trawlers probably by now could see past things like a capital words like
> BLOCK or REMOVE in an address. Many people wrote back saying "I use the
> word REMOVE in my address all the time and have yet to receive spam", so
> anecdotally, most trawlers aren't that good yet. (Although it wouldn't
> be hard to make them that good).

i don't believe people, especially on usenet, who claim that they
haven't received any spam yet!

martin;  (greetings from the heart of the sun.)
  \ echo mailto: !#^."<*>"|tr "<*> mailto:"; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
-- 
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our existence of its rich ambiguity.
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oberon in linux?

2001-10-03 Thread Bostjan Muller
Hi!

I would like to know if there is any way of using oberon on linux? Since
the faculty which I am a student of has a class called Programing 1,
which teaches the use of Oberon as a object programming language. I
would like to pass the class without the need to install windows on any
of my computers, so I would really like to find an alternative in linux.
For now I have found oo2c, which has built a binary from my code, but
that binary just did nothing when executed, and I found an oberon
program for linux, which has a gui, but does seem to not create any
binaries, it compiles the program and tells you if there were any errors
during the compilation, but the output of the program is not shown.
(Since the classes havent started yet officially, I am just testing the
 environment, and I don't know how to code in oberon yet, but I have
 written a simple helo world type of app, the source is appended, could
 someone check if it is even written correctly?)
Can anyone enlighten me about this? Can I learn oberon under linux also?

THX in advance!

Bostjan
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IMPORT
   Out,
   SYSTEM;

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BEGIN
   
   Out.String('Hello world !');

END Test;

END Hello.

Hello.Test


Re: DHCP networking problems after upgrade to woody

2001-10-03 Thread Peter S Galbraith

I wrote:

> > I got my ADSL line last night, ran '/etc/init.d/networking start'
> > and proceeded to download 240MB in 28 minutes (!), and upgraded
> > my Progeny to woody  (I didn't change the kernel, running 2.2.18).
> > 
> > Now the ADSL network won't work anymore.
> > Running either pump or dhclient now gives me the same IP:
> > 
> > 
> > Running dhclient verbose says that I got IP 192.168.1.2 from
> > 192.168.1.1 :
> > 
> >  DHCPDISCOVER on lo to 255.255.255.255 port 67 interval 7
> >  DHCPREQUEST on eth0 to 255.255.255.255 port 67
> >  DHCPACK from 192.168.1.1
> >  bound to 192.168.1.2 -- renewal in 60 seconds.
> > 
> > This is reserved adress space for internal nets, right?.  Is my own
> > box somehow providing an IP adress that I don't want?  (I have both
> > pump and dhcp-client installed, but no server.)

Nathan E Norman wrote:

> Assuming you don't have a device with the ip address 192.168.1.1, I
> would guess that you're either getting an IP from your DSL "modem"

Maybe, see below.

> (unlikely unless you somehow changed it's config and forgot about it),

It's brand new.

> or you're getting an address from someone in the same broadcast domain
> as you (i.e. another DSL customer).

Maybe. This will be a _long_ day at work, waiting to try this at home
tonight
 
> Use 'arp' to see what mac address is associated with 192.168.1.1.  If
> it's not one of yours, call your provider and ask them what to do if
> one of your neighbors is running a DHCP server.

Thanks Nathan.

This sounds plausible.  After my linux upgrade I booted up Windows and
never got ADSL to work on it at all.  I didn't associate the two problems
since Linux had just run successfully. Since then I ran `winipcfg' on
Windows and it also showed IP 192.168.1.2 from DHCP server 192.168.1.1,
same as on Linux.  The weird it that I disconnected the phone line from the
ADSL modem, clicked on `reset', and got the same answer back!  So perhaps
the ADSL modem is storing it somehow.

Leaving everything unplugged all night didn't help this morning (I thought
perhaps something would get reset).

Peter



scsi-partitioning

2001-10-03 Thread Gerald Richter
Hello Debianists!

have a question regarding the access of a scsi-disk...
dmesg shows:

sym53c8xx: at PCI bus 2, device 4, function 0
sym53c8xx: setting PCI_COMMAND_PARITY...(fix-up)
sym53c8xx: 53c895 detected
sym53c895-0: rev 0x2 on pci bus 2 device 4 function 0 irq 11
sym53c895-0: ID 7, Fast-40, Parity Checking
sym53c895-0: SCSI bus mode change from 80 to 80.
scsi0 : sym53c8xx-1.7.1-2726
scsi : 1 host.
  Vendor: COMPAQModel: BD009222C7Rev: B016
  Type:   Direct-Access  ANSI SCSI revision: 02
Detected scsi disk sda at scsi0, channel 0, id 0, lun 0
  Vendor: IBM   Model: DNES-309170W  Rev: SAH0
  Type:   Direct-Access  ANSI SCSI revision: 03
Detected scsi disk sdb at scsi0, channel 0, id 2, lun 0
scsi : detected 2 SCSI disks total.
sym53c895-0-<0,*>: FAST-20 WIDE SCSI 40.0 MB/s (50 ns, offset 31)
SCSI device sda: hdwr sector= 512 bytes. Sectors= 17773524 [8678 MB]
[8.7 GB]
sym53c895-0-<2,*>: FAST-20 WIDE SCSI 40.0 MB/s (50 ns, offset 31)
SCSI device sdb: hdwr sector= 512 bytes. Sectors= 17916240 [8748 MB]
[8.7 GB]

- cfdisk on /dev/sda works fine.

- cfdisk on /dev/sdb tells me:
 FATAL ERROR: Bad signature on partition table
  Press any key to exit cfdisk

how do I proceed if I want to partition sdb?

thanks for hints,
Gerald.



sudo and Debian (was ssh and Debian)

2001-10-03 Thread Brian Schramm
I get the same thing.  I also run Sun's and other unix systems that do not 
have this problem.  I figure it is a problem with Debian but I am not sure.  
Anyone got any ideas at all?

Brian

Date: Tue, 2 Oct 2001 16:26:33 -0400
From: dman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: ssh and debian
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Disposition: inline

On Tue, Oct 02, 2001 at 01:21:19PM -0400, Brian Schramm wrote:
| Sorry for teh confusion.  I use ssh to log in and sudo to change to the
| superuser account.  I ment sudo and debian in my letter.  Now here is my

Ah, ok.

| problem.  I log into my remote machine by ssh and then change to the sudo
| system from there.  No matter what I have tried it never askes me for a
| password.  I have had this happen ever since I have used debian and I have
| never had it do that for me on any other system.  It does not matter if I
| am loged into the local console or a remote console.  Here is my sudoers
| file:
| 
| # sudoers file.
| #
| # This file MUST be edited with the 'visudo' command as root.
| #
| # See the man page for details on how to write a sudoers file.
| #
| 
| # Host alias specification
| 
| # User alias specification
| 
| # Cmnd alias specification
| 
| # User privilege specification
| rootALL=(ALL) ALL
| bschrammALL=(ALL) ALL
| 
| This file works in other systems so I am not quite sure why it does not
| work as expected here.

It looks to me like that would require your password ... however a
quick test on my debian box shows that it doesn't.

Some snippets from 'man sudoers' that seem relevant :

   The reserved word ALL is a built in alias that always
   causes a match to succeed.  It can be used wherever one
   might otherwise use a Cmnd_Alias, User_Alias, Runas_Alias,
   or Host_Alias.  You should not try to define your own
   alias called ALL as the built in alias will be used in
   preference to your own.  Please note that using ALL can be
   dangerous since in a command context, it allows the user
   to run any command on the system.
-
   The User specification is the part that actually
   determines who may run what.

root   ALL = (ALL) ALL
%wheel ALL = (ALL) ALL

   We let root and any user in group wheel run any command on
   any host as any user.

FULLTIMERS ALL = NOPASSWD: ALL

   Full time sysadmins (millert, mikef, and dowdy) may run
   any command on any host without authenticating themselves.

PARTTIMERS ALL = ALL

   Part time sysadmins (bostley, jwfox, and crawl) may run
   any command on any host but they must authenticate
   themselves first (since the entry lacks the NOPASSWD tag).


Hmm, even using the PASSWD: option I still don't have to enter my
password.  I don't know why.


-D

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919-871-6466
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Re: SPAM WARNING: spammers use Debian lists for harvesting

2001-10-03 Thread Ailbhe Leamy
On (03/10/01 13:03), Alex Hunsley wrote:
> martin f krafft wrote:
> > > to email me, remove the BLOCK from addressS

> > however, this is both obnoxious, and useless - the mass mailers that i
> > have seen (no, i am not a spammer) have features that check for a wide
> > variety of such blocks, and successfully remove them...

> What's obnoxious about it? I don't want spam, dad. It's that simple.

That's fine. I never bother to email people who use this kind of
spamtrap, though. And a few people on this list have received
potentially useful information from me, I know.

Why should I go to extra bother to help you?

Ailbhe

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Re: ssh and debian

2001-10-03 Thread Sean Quinlan
--- Brian Schramm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> (2001-10-02 15:10):
> For some reason my debian box never propts me for a ssh password when loging 
> into a sudo session.  Is there some setting I need to do to tell it to ask me?

Are you part of the sudo group?  If you are, you're never prompted for a
password when you use sudo.  Just a guess :)

Cheers,
Sean

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Re: mutt doesn't know about procmail actions

2001-10-03 Thread Jeffrin Jose T .



Try this in your .procmailrc

[EMAIL PROTECTED]/Mail
DEFAULT=$HOME/Mail/mbox







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Re: mutt doesn't know about procmail actions

2001-10-03 Thread Jeffrin Jose T .

> [EMAIL PROTECTED]/Mail

 correction...

 MAILDIR=$HOME/Mail



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Re: SPAM WARNING: spammers use Debian lists for harvesting

2001-10-03 Thread Keith Willoughby
Robert Waldner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> If you believe in using fake addresses, why not use something like
>  [EMAIL PROTECTED] This doesn't (and probably won't) exist, so you 
>  have the benefit of a faked address but don't simply shove the load 
>  unto someone else.

Funnily enough, UK educational addresses used to be that way
around. (Mine used to be [EMAIL PROTECTED]). I wonder if there
are any JANet gateways that still do the address translation . . .

-- 
Keith Willoughby
"Playing to lose is like sleeping with your sister. 
Sure she's a great piece of tail with a blouse full of 
goodies, but it's just illegal." - Topper Harley



Re: Mozilla is so slow! Problem with my upgrade to 2.2r3?

2001-10-03 Thread Jussi Ekholm
On Wed, Oct 03, 2001 at 10:37:06AM +0100, Anthony Campbell wrote:

> Don't really get on with Opera myself. I always seem to come back to
> Netscape in the end, with all its faults. The 4.7 versions seem to crash
> less often than earlier ones. 

What about Konqueror, have you tried it? For me, Konqueror has done
the job, and very nicely even. So far I haven't encountered a site,
that wouldn't work right. Konqu is handy, as it can use Netscape
plugins, as well. 

I assume you have tried Konqueror, but decided still to throw my
2 cents on the table. :-)

> Mind you, I prefer Lynx to any of them and use it when I can, 
> especially for downloads.

I use Lynx most, as well because I really don't spend much time in
X, due to the slowness of my computer (P100/40MB). But for downloads?
I realise, that wget isn't very handy in all occasions, but when I'm
downloading something from the web, I usually do it with wget. Nice
tool, indeed.

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downloading debian

2001-10-03 Thread kumar suresh
Hello,

We tried to download debian cdimages as instructed by
the latest psudo-image kit but from most of the sites
we were unable to download the required files. With
many sites, the make-psudo-imaage command terminated
immediately and with someother sites we could donwload
only upto 21MB or so. Thereafterwards,
make-psudo-imaage command returned the prompt
immediately.

So is there any site from where we can get latest
debian? 

Thank you,

Suresh






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Re: SPAM WARNING: spammers use Debian lists for harvesting

2001-10-03 Thread Alex Hunsley


Ailbhe Leamy wrote:
> 
> On (03/10/01 13:03), Alex Hunsley wrote:
> > martin f krafft wrote:
> > > > to email me, remove the BLOCK from addressS
> 
> > > however, this is both obnoxious, and useless - the mass mailers that i
> > > have seen (no, i am not a spammer) have features that check for a wide
> > > variety of such blocks, and successfully remove them...
> 
> > What's obnoxious about it? I don't want spam, dad. It's that simple.
> 
> That's fine. I never bother to email people who use this kind of
> spamtrap, though. And a few people on this list have received
> potentially useful information from me, I know.
> 
> Why should I go to extra bother to help you?
> 
> Ailbhe

You shouldn't help me then, if you don't want to, or it's too much
bother. Your choice. I'm sure I can live with it. If my address puts
some people off, then so be it.

Personally, I'm quite happy to help other people when I can, whether
they use a plain email address or not.

alex



konqueror crashes again

2001-10-03 Thread Marcin Inkielman
Hi!

I still have problems with konqueror. It crash every time
on all websites
I saw in the list that the problem is already solved. I tried to 
reinstall all the kdelibs3. (apt-get kdelibs3* --reinstal).
Downgrade of the libc6 dosn't help alot (I have crashes also)
Everything other: mozilla, kde work well.
Do kdelibs3 (2.2.1-5) really work and I do something wrong?

my system is debian sid upgraded today.

please help!

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Re: SPAM WARNING: spammers use Debian lists for harvesting

2001-10-03 Thread Alex Hunsley


martin f krafft wrote:
> 
> also sprach Alex Hunsley (on Wed, 03 Oct 2001 01:03:36PM +0100):
> > What's obnoxious about it? I don't want spam, dad. It's that simple.
> 
> maybe obnoxious is not the right word, and hey, i don't want to start
> a flame war... but i almost replied to you in person without noticing
> it, and that would have caused a 30 minute delay or so as well as
> extra trouble...

My attitude is usually to send a reply to at least the list and
sometimes to the person themselves. If the mail to the actual person
bounces, then at least it's on the list where they'll likely see it.

I see what you mean though. It might be handy if it were possible to
leave the email field completely blank or obviously bogus, but a lot of
software doesn't let you do that - insists you put in what looks like an
email address...

alex



Re: SPAM WARNING: spammers use Debian lists for harvesting

2001-10-03 Thread Alex Hunsley


Robert Waldner wrote:
> 

> Of course it would be easy to make such bots a little bit more
>  intelligent. But why bother? Also, most spammers probably don't target
>  people who already have formed an opinion against it, their main
>  targets are AOL- & -newbies, anyway.

Fair point.

> If you believe in using fake addresses, why not use something like
>  [EMAIL PROTECTED] This doesn't (and probably won't) exist, so you
>  have the benefit of a faked address but don't simply shove the load
>  unto someone else.

Believe me, I've tried that, but my mail server won't let me post unless
I use a hostname that actually exists!

Now I'm using a real address for an account I don't often read.

alex



Re: Mozilla is so slow! Problem with my upgrade to 2.2r3?

2001-10-03 Thread Anthony Campbell
On 03 Oct 2001, Jussi Ekholm wrote:
> On Wed, Oct 03, 2001 at 10:37:06AM +0100, Anthony Campbell wrote:
> 
> > Don't really get on with Opera myself. I always seem to come back to
> > Netscape in the end, with all its faults. The 4.7 versions seem to crash
> > less often than earlier ones. 
> 
> What about Konqueror, have you tried it? For me, Konqueror has done
> the job, and very nicely even. So far I haven't encountered a site,
> that wouldn't work right. Konqu is handy, as it can use Netscape
> plugins, as well. 
> 
> I assume you have tried Konqueror, but decided still to throw my
> 2 cents on the table. :-)
> 

No; people have recommended Konqueror but I found that it wanted to
install all kinds of stuff connected with KDE which I don't want on my
machine; I like icewm (keep it simple).

Others I've tried include Mozilla (quite like it), Skipstone, and Links.
Skipstone crashes a lot and Links keeps wiping out its booklist, for
some reason. 

One limitation I have is that my bank won't accept anything but Netscape.

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Re: Printing in Linux

2001-10-03 Thread Michael Heldebrant
On Wed, 2001-10-03 at 03:30, Erlend Bjørnson Barkbu wrote:
> I've got a Hp Laserjet 5 in my network, it is shared on a printserver to all 
> the windows-machines on the network by its WINS-name 
> (//server/printer-of-some-sort) .
> 
> How can I use this printer?
> 
> I've tried to use samba, but I cant get it right
> 
> Does anyone have a suggestion?

I've had success with cups and the gimpprint filters over samba.  Just
be sure that your workgroup name is also in the URI for the printer as
follows:

smb://login:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/printserver/printername

works great for me.

--mike




Re: scsi-partitioning

2001-10-03 Thread Nathan E Norman
On Wed, Oct 03, 2001 at 03:25:11PM +0200, Gerald Richter wrote:
> Hello Debianists!

[ snip ]

> how do I proceed if I want to partition sdb?

use fdisk instead of cfdisk.  The interface isn't as pretty, but it
works.  'h' gives you help :)

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Re: Mozilla is so slow! Problem with my upgrade to 2.2r3?

2001-10-03 Thread Nathan E Norman
On Wed, Oct 03, 2001 at 04:18:22PM +0100, Anthony Campbell wrote:
> On 03 Oct 2001, Jussi Ekholm wrote:
> > On Wed, Oct 03, 2001 at 10:37:06AM +0100, Anthony Campbell wrote:
> > 
> > > Don't really get on with Opera myself. I always seem to come back to
> > > Netscape in the end, with all its faults. The 4.7 versions seem to crash
> > > less often than earlier ones. 
> > 
> > What about Konqueror, have you tried it? For me, Konqueror has done
> > the job, and very nicely even. So far I haven't encountered a site,
> > that wouldn't work right. Konqu is handy, as it can use Netscape
> > plugins, as well. 
> > 
> > I assume you have tried Konqueror, but decided still to throw my
> > 2 cents on the table. :-)
> > 
> 
> No; people have recommended Konqueror but I found that it wanted to
> install all kinds of stuff connected with KDE which I don't want on my
> machine; I like icewm (keep it simple).
> 
> Others I've tried include Mozilla (quite like it), Skipstone, and Links.
> Skipstone crashes a lot and Links keeps wiping out its booklist, for
> some reason. 
> 
> One limitation I have is that my bank won't accept anything but Netscape.

I like galeon ... you can configure the Agent string galeon presents
to the server.

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Re: Mozilla is so slow! Problem with my upgrade to 2.2r3?

2001-10-03 Thread Hall Stevenson
> > One limitation I have is that my bank won't
> > accept anything but Netscape.
>
> I like galeon ... you can configure the Agent string
> galeon presents to the server.

I subscribe to some mozilla-related lists and according to
many posts, you can't 'trick' *all* web servers. Some can see
past the user-agent string you or your browser send...

You can change the UA string to anything you want and it won't
always work. I guess it depends on who you're dealing with.

Hall




Re: SPAM WARNING: spammers use Debian lists for harvesting

2001-10-03 Thread Jason Boxman
On Wednesday 03 October 2001 06:50 am, P Kirk wrote:

> Now armed with this assumption, set up a .procmailrc or .forward to block
> them.  To get you started, my .forward which has a way of scoring mail
> to filter spam is attached.  I get a certain malign pleasure out of
> checking my junlmail inbox from time to time just to have the
> satisfaction of having the filter work the way I want.

You have some great recipes in there.

I especially like the one that checks mailto: to match the From: address.

> Patrick



Re: SPAM WARNING: spammers use Debian lists for harvesting

2001-10-03 Thread Jason Boxman
On Wednesday 03 October 2001 07:12 am, Petr [Dingo] Dvorak wrote:
> On Wed, 3 Oct 2001 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > I managed to stay 'clean' for nearly 9 months to my primary account, now
> > I'm spitting chips at the vision of my e-mail address brunt onto some
> > get-rich-quick-marketting-tool CD-R.  :-(
>
> eh, even if you haven't subscribed to any mailing list, there is a good
> chance that your isp sells your email to make little extra profit, install
> mailfilter and/or procmail, set up some rules and you won't have that much
> of a problem.

Or if you're into Perl, Mail::Audit works well with Mail::SpamAssassin.

I find the effective rule is to trash mail that doesn't have my email in the 
From: address.  Hopefully the spammers won't ever catch on...

> Dingo.
>
>
>   ).|.(
> '.'___'.'
>' '(>~<)' '
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Re: SSH port forwarding

2001-10-03 Thread Failure
On Wed, Oct 03, 2001 at 01:38:21AM -0700, Vineet Kumar wrote:
<>
> > I connect like this (from the firewalled machine):
> > 
> > ssh -g -C -R 3001:firewalled_machine:22 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > 
> > I can now connect to 3001 on the outside machine, but the connection doesn't
> > do anything and is quickly closed.  I've tried ports besides 22 with the 
> > same
> > results, but with ssh I get this familiar message:
> > 
> > $ ssh -C -p 3001 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > ssh_exchange_identification: Connection closed by remote host

> The first thing to try is to change firewalled_machine to localhost or
> another name that resolves to a local address that would be allowed by a
> firewall that blocks all but loopback traffic to sshd.
<>

That did it, I just changed firewalled_machine to localhost and bingo...
now I can get at my stuff from anywhere as I hoped.  I should have tried
localhost before emailing the list, but you know hindsight 20/20.  Thanks! 
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Re: scsi-partitioning

2001-10-03 Thread Michael B. Taylor
On Wed, Oct 03, 2001 at 03:25:11PM +0200, Gerald Richter wrote:
> 
> - cfdisk on /dev/sdb tells me:
>  FATAL ERROR: Bad signature on partition table
>   Press any key to exit cfdisk
> 
> how do I proceed if I want to partition sdb?
> 
> 
I have no idea why you are getting the error.  Have you tried
the "fdisk" command?  I have seen it work in cases where cfdisk
fails.

Mike



Re: SPAM WARNING: spammers use Debian lists for harvesting

2001-10-03 Thread Craig Dickson
Jason Boxman wrote:

> I find the effective rule is to trash mail that doesn't have my email
> in the From: address. Hopefully the spammers won't ever catch on...

Sorry, I haven't been following this thread, but doesn't that mean that
if someone bcc's you on a legit message that you really ought to read,
you won't see it?

(I assume when you say "From:", you really mean either "From:" or "Cc:"
-- if not, then even a non-blind copy would get tossed.)

Craig



Re: scsi partitioning

2001-10-03 Thread Jeffrey W. Baker
fdisk will complain about not being able to read the partition table if
you have scsi bus bogosity.  check dmesg for scsi parity errors.



Re: SPAM WARNING: spammers use Debian lists for harvesting

2001-10-03 Thread Robert Waldner

On Wed, 03 Oct 2001 16:10:06 BST, Alex Hunsley writes:
>Robert Waldner wrote:
>> If you believe in using fake addresses, why not use something like
>>  [EMAIL PROTECTED] This doesn't (and probably won't) exist, so you
>>  have the benefit of a faked address but don't simply shove the load
>>  unto someone else.
>
>Believe me, I've tried that, but my mail server won't let me post unless
>I use a hostname that actually exists!
>
>Now I'm using a real address for an account I don't often read.

For all that want to use it: use addresses of the form
 [EMAIL PROTECTED], it's my domain, feel free to use 
 that entry.

this hostname exists, but points to 

this.is.a.trap.graffl.net   TXT "this is just a spamtrap"
this.is.a.trap.graffl.net   A   127.255.255.255

And I'll /happily/ bear the DNS-queries for that.

cheers,
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Re: SPAM WARNING: spammers use Debian lists for harvesting

2001-10-03 Thread martin f krafft
* Robert Waldner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2001.10.03 18:26:21+0200]:
> this.is.a.trap.graffl.net   TXT "this is just a spamtrap"
> this.is.a.trap.graffl.net   A   127.255.255.255

that's a splendid idea, but don't you want to consider 127.0.0.1
instead. broadcast is kind of harsh...

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Instalation on a laptop advise...

2001-10-03 Thread Alexander Wallace
Hi there! I have a lapotp I want to install debian in, it has a nic that
needs a modifyed version of tulip To be able to use it I need to copy
the modifyed version and recompile the kernel to recompile the module...

The instalation cd I have for debian doesn't have any packages, It get's
them from the net... Is there a way to interupt the instalation and add
the file and recompile and then install the packages? Or do I have to
download the full cds from debian?

Thanks!



xRe: scsi-partitioning

2001-10-03 Thread Rob Ransbottom
On Wed, 3 Oct 2001, Michael B. Taylor wrote:

> On Wed, Oct 03, 2001 at 03:25:11PM +0200, Gerald Richter wrote:

> I have no idea why you are getting the error.  Have you tried
> the "fdisk" command?  I have seen it work in cases where cfdisk
> fails.

Yes, first try fdisk.

Sometimes a new disk will require a format from the host adapter's
BIOS.

rob Live the dream.



Re: downloading debian

2001-10-03 Thread David Steinberg
On Wed, 3 Oct 2001, kumar suresh wrote:
> So is there any site from where we can get latest
> debian? 

Check out http://cdimage.debian.org/ftp-mirrors.html for a list of Debian
CD Image mirrors.

(This link was last posted on the list just a couple of days ago.)

Cheers.

-- 
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Re: Ramfs and Cachless Networking.

2001-10-03 Thread igor
On Wednesday, September 26 2001 11:27 am, Dave Sherohman wrote:
> On Wed, Sep 26, 2001 at 10:44:05AM -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > I tried to use scp, but I guess it was caching the info somewhere because
> > I was getting the same transfer speeds as from HDs.
>
> That's a good possibility.  Your test could easily be corrupted on
> either side - the send-from-disk could have been thrown off by the OS
> caching the files in RAM and the send-from-RAM could be thrown off if
> the ramfs had been swapped out.  Linux uses both caching and virtual
> memory pretty aggressively.
>
> OTOH, as a previous poster suggested, it seems more likely that your
> hard disk is just faster than your network connection, in which case
> I would expect to get the same results either way.
>
> > Question: Can I tweak scp or use something else to send files directly
> > from RAM of one computer into another as fast as possible ?
>
> Why does it need to come out of RAM?  Make it up on the fly - pipe
> /dev/urandom or the output of `while /bin/true ; do echo 0 ; done`
> across the network and you don't have to worry about the data being
> cached.

What would the exact syntax of that command be ?
I'm kinda a newbie to linux. Would you please let me which commands I need to 
type on both computers to the network performance.

Thanks.



graphical tool for network design/illustration

2001-10-03 Thread martin f krafft
hi,
is there a utility that i can use to create images of networks? you
know, the object-based host/server/firewall-bridge/router/hub graphics
program that allows for easy interconnection - and which has that
funny bad-ass-looking cloud (or similar) to visualize the Big Bad
Internet? xfig has an object library for computers and networks, but
it's not made for that and thus kinda awkward to use...

any clues?

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esd esdctl?

2001-10-03 Thread Robert L. Harris


Debian sid box running gnome.  I have esound installed and esound-common.
When I do a "ps -eaf | grep esd" it doesn't find anything.  I also can't find
which package contains esdctl which used to be the way to start and stop 
the esd daemon.

Anyone know which package?



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Re: graphical tool for network design/illustration

2001-10-03 Thread Immanuel Yap
Maybe dia will be to your liking.  It's quite similar to Visio, if
you're familiar with that.  There are both Debian and Ximian packages
for it:

Package: dia
Status: install ok installed
Priority: optional
Section: graphics
Installed-Size: 10836
Maintainer: Ximian, Inc. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Version: 0.88.1-ximian.2
Depends: libart2 (>= 1.2.0), libc6 (>= 2.1.2), libgdk-pixbuf2 (>= 0.9.0), 
libglib1.2 (>= 1.2.0), libgtk1.2 (>= 1.2.0), libpng2, libpopt0, libxml1, libz1, 
xlib6g (>= 3.3.6-4)
Description: A GTK+ based diagram editor andcharting tool
 Dia is used to draw diagrams, graphs, charts, and so forth. This is
 an early version, but the program is fully usable. In this version
 there is support for UML static structure diagrams (class diagrams),
 Entity-Relationship diagrams and Network diagrams. Diagrams can be
 exported to postscript.

Noel



Re: graphical tool for network design/illustration

2001-10-03 Thread Craig Dickson
martin f krafft wrote:

> is there a utility that i can use to create images of networks? you
> know, the object-based host/server/firewall-bridge/router/hub graphics
> program that allows for easy interconnection - and which has that
> funny bad-ass-looking cloud (or similar) to visualize the Big Bad
> Internet? xfig has an object library for computers and networks, but
> it's not made for that and thus kinda awkward to use...
> 
> any clues?

Have you tried Dia? I think it has a toolset for network diagrams.

Craig



Re: esd esdctl?

2001-10-03 Thread Petr \[Dingo\] Dvorak
On Wed, 3 Oct 2001, Robert L. Harris wrote:

RLH> 
RLH> 
RLH> Debian sid box running gnome.  I have esound installed and esound-common.
RLH> When I do a "ps -eaf | grep esd" it doesn't find anything.  I also can't 
find
RLH> which package contains esdctl which used to be the way to start and stop 
RLH> the esd daemon.

the esd daemon is in esound package, if that helps you any .. esdctl should be
installed in /usr/bin ..

Dingo.


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Re: Sharing Printers w/ Win2K machine and Samb

2001-10-03 Thread Dimitri Maziuk
* Joe Barnett ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) spake thusly:
... 
> Anyone know about these special versions of win2k-enabled sambas?  I'm
> just using the latest out of SID.

Samba 2.2.1a works fine with w2k. I can't help you with that error
message, but TFM has enough info to set it up (I'd suggest buying
_Samba_Unleashed_, though). Have a look at 
http://us1.samba.org/samba/docs/Samba-HOWTO-Collection.html#PRINTING.

The only thing I had to do that's not in the above URL was to create 
a share for each printer, in addition to print$.

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Re: graphical tool for network design/illustration

2001-10-03 Thread Nathan E Norman
On Wed, Oct 03, 2001 at 07:20:25PM +0200, martin f krafft wrote:
> hi,
> is there a utility that i can use to create images of networks? you
> know, the object-based host/server/firewall-bridge/router/hub graphics
> program that allows for easy interconnection - and which has that
> funny bad-ass-looking cloud (or similar) to visualize the Big Bad
> Internet? xfig has an object library for computers and networks, but
> it's not made for that and thus kinda awkward to use...
> 
> any clues?

"dia", or "dia-gnome" if you use gnome?

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Re: list etiquette

2001-10-03 Thread Osamu Aoki
On Sun, Sep 30, 2001 at 09:51:04PM +0100, Alex Hunsley wrote:
> I read my email from several places, not all of which have a linux box handy
> (e.g. work). Is there a promail equivelent for windows?

Why you need procmail?

If you have one fixed IP machine, run Linux there and access it through
SSH.  I use MUTT on Linux and putty on windows.

Also, run ssh on port 8080. YMMV

Osamu
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Re: DHCP networking problems after upgrade to woody

2001-10-03 Thread Peter S Galbraith

Nathan E Norman wrote:

> > > > I got my ADSL line last night, ran '/etc/init.d/networking start'
> > > > and proceeded to download 240MB in 28 minutes (!), and upgraded
> > > > my Progeny to woody  (I didn't change the kernel, running 2.2.18).
> 
> Ah, this is the part I missed ... I didn't realise the DSL
> installation was new.  What kind of DSL "modem" do you have (for
> example, when I has DSL I had a Cisco 675 that was capable of acting
> as a DHCP server, NAT, etc.

It's a Eicon Diva 2430.  I found this on it:

 http://www.eicon.com/pubs/diva_2430/index.htm
 
with lots of links for explanations and help.

It says the modem has the IP 192.168.1.1 and that it can be
configured by pointing a web browser at that address.  Can't wait
to try that tonight.
 
> It would be interesting to see how your DSL setup is, well, set up.
> It's interesting that it worked the first time.

I find it weird that the IP I got the first time, when it worked,
was outside the block of 192.168.x.x and /etc/resolv.conf was
properly filled out.  Now I get IP 192.168.1.2 inside the block,
and no proper /etc/resolv.conf file (it contains only the word
"search").

> I have never seen a network device act as a DHCP "cache", so I don't
> think that's the problem :)
>  
> I'll reserve further comment until you find out from arp what the MAC
> address of the device handing out addresses is, but it seems
> suspicious that you got an address even when the phone line was
> unplugged (you did a release/renew. right?)

Right.

The docs say there's a reset button in the side which I can try.

Thanks!

Peter



setting a tty to login to remote computer via ssh

2001-10-03 Thread Shriram Shrikumar
Hi All,

just wondering if it was possible to set one of the tty's like tty8 to login to
another machine via ssh instead of just to the local machine.

thanx in advance.

Shri

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Re: DHCP networking problems after upgrade to woody

2001-10-03 Thread Peter S Galbraith

I wrote:

> It's a Eicon Diva 2430.  I found this on it:
> 
>  http://www.eicon.com/pubs/diva_2430/index.htm
>  
> with lots of links for explanations and help.
> 
> It says the modem has the IP 192.168.1.1 and that it can be
> configured by pointing a web browser at that address.  Can't wait
> to try that tonight.
>  
> I find it weird that the IP I got the first time, when it worked,
> was outside the block of 192.168.x.x and /etc/resolv.conf was
> properly filled out.  Now I get IP 192.168.1.2 inside the block,
> and no proper /etc/resolv.conf file (it contains only the word
> "search").

I just got a reply from my provider's help desk and they say that
192.168.1.1 is assigned by the modem when it can't reach the
network DHCP server.  So at least I know I'm not going insane. It
doesn't look like it's a Linux problem.

Peter



Re: setting a tty to login to remote computer via ssh

2001-10-03 Thread Mike Alborn
On Wed, Oct 03, 2001 at 11:08:47AM -0700, Shriram Shrikumar wrote:
> Hi All,
> 
> just wondering if it was possible to set one of the tty's like tty8 to login 
> to
> another machine via ssh instead of just to the local machine.

Just a quick 2sec search, but this might point you in the right
direction:

init uses getty (or some variant - check /etc/inittab) to spawn a
terminal, and getty spawns /bin/login to produce the prompt and handle
user logins. getty can be instructed to spawn a different program with
the -l option. Perhaps if you put an entry like this in /etc/inittab:

8:23:respawn:/sbin/getty -l /usr/bin/ssh hostname 38400 tty8

where hostname is the remote host. According to the manpages, getty
will pass the name from the login: prompt on to ssh (since /bin/login
works in much the same way ssh does - for this purpose).

I've not tried this myself - perhaps there is someone out there who
has that may be of more help.

HTH,

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Re: setting a tty to login to remote computer via ssh

2001-10-03 Thread Jacques Normand
Shriram Shrikumar wrote:

> Hi All,
>
> just wondering if it was possible to set one of the tty's like tty8 to login 
> to
> another machine via ssh instead of just to the local machine.

It is possible by editing the inittab (/etc/inittab) but it will set a pb if you
need a password to set the connection, 2 solutions:

* set up the away box so as it doesn't ask for a password
* use the right command line option to hardcode the password in the inittab

*** ATTENTION ***
the second way is *very* piggy. Your inittab is usually world readable. So every
one can read your password. Use it just in last resort, for test purposes.
*** ATTENTION ***

I think there is a way to disable password for the server by editing a
authorizedkeys file (+ chmod 600) but I don't know more.

>
> thanx in advance.
>
> Shri

Hope this will be a first step in the right direction

Jacques

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RE: Instalation on a laptop advise...

2001-10-03 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry

On 03-Oct-2001 Alexander Wallace wrote:
> Hi there! I have a lapotp I want to install debian in, it has a nic that
> needs a modifyed version of tulip To be able to use it I need to copy
> the modifyed version and recompile the kernel to recompile the module...
> 
> The instalation cd I have for debian doesn't have any packages, It get's
> them from the net... Is there a way to interupt the instalation and add
> the file and recompile and then install the packages? Or do I have to
> download the full cds from debian?
> 

best bet would be to get a friend to compile the package(s) for you.  If you
can manage to install base then you should be able to hand install enough to
get networking working for you.  The problem will be getting the needed module.

Also, there is a debian-laptop list for anyone seeking laptop specific help.



X fonts problem

2001-10-03 Thread martin f krafft
recently, i have been experiencing trouble with fonts on my 3.3.6 X
server running on 2.4.5/woody. certain programs, like "plan", "dia",
display text as dotted rectangles, and not even one per letter. i took
the liberty to attach a file to this mail, a gif stripped down as much
as possible, please excuse the 2kb -- it makes explaining this a whole
lot easier.

what you see written in the cloud of the attached image is the word
"internet" -- eight letters condensed to four -- and not legible.

in opera, i get this effect every now and then on what seems to be
special characters.

any clue what might be causing this?
or more importantly, how to fix it?

thanks,

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Re: setting a tty to login to remote computer via ssh

2001-10-03 Thread martin f krafft
how about an account with zero-password (or password=username), whose
shell is a shell script (careful with those), asking for the username,
and spawning ssh.

it would be better to get getty to do this, though...

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RE: Instalation on a laptop advise...

2001-10-03 Thread Scott Henson


> Hi there! I have a lapotp I want to install debian in, it has a nic that
> needs a modifyed version of tulip To be able to use it I need to copy
> the modifyed version and recompile the kernel to recompile the module...
>
> The instalation cd I have for debian doesn't have any packages, It get's
> them from the net... Is there a way to interupt the instalation and add
> the file and recompile and then install the packages? Or do I have to
> download the full cds from debian?
>
> Thanks!


No you dont.  Durring the instalation process it should ask you which
packages(acctualy tasts which are sets of packages) you want to install.  If
you tell it none then you can go back after you recompile the kernel and use
apt-get to install any packages you want.  Acctually the How-to for
switching from be-os to debian.  I cant seem to find it right now, but i
know a message was posted to one of the debian lists.  Sorry i couldnt help
more.



OT: yann.aubert@internetfrance.com, are you there?

2001-10-03 Thread martin f krafft
hi,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] has subscribed to debian-apache, but
his email addy bounces with user unknown. i have disabled email
delivery for now. please get in touch with me.

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Re: X fonts problem

2001-10-03 Thread martin f krafft
am i a dork. someday, i'll use artificial intelligence to make sure
that attachments are not forgotten.

her she is...

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Re: sudo and Debian (was ssh and Debian)

2001-10-03 Thread Vineet Kumar
* Brian Schramm ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [011003 06:29]:
> Hmm, even using the PASSWD: option I still don't have to enter my
> password.  I don't know why.

debian's sudo package has the password timeout set to 15 minutes. This
means that once you enter your password once, as long as you don't wait
more than 15 minutes between sudo commands, you won't have to enter it
again. The password timeout can be immediately expired with 'sudo -k'.
Was this the problem? Or did you never have to enter your password at
all? Maybe you did enter it once and then kept testing to see that it
wasn't asking for you password, but each of your tests was within 15
minutes of the last.

good times,

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Re: mutt doesn't know about procmail actions

2001-10-03 Thread Vineet Kumar
* martin f krafft ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [011003 04:01]:
> also sprach Rory Campbell-Lange (on Wed, 03 Oct 2001 11:10:49AM +0100):
> > Should I repoint mutt to my mbox, by default? How should I do this?
> > Also, how can mutt know that there is unread mail in other folders?
> 
> ever tries the manual?
> 
> probably the best thing is a line like
> 
> export MAIL=~/Mail/mbox   in .bash_profile
> 
> or, if you are using tcsh (why???)
> 
> setenv MAIL ~/Mail/mbox.
> 
> then go to www.mutt.org and browse the online manual for the
> "mailboxes" configuration command.

also see "spoolfile"; this is probably what you really want. It should
be set to a reasonable default if you set the MAIL environment variable
as suggested above.

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Re: X fonts problem

2001-10-03 Thread Greg Wiley
On Wednesday, October 03, 2001 11:32 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


> certain programs, like "plan", "dia",
> display text as dotted rectangles, and not even one per letter.

In some programs, that means appropriately-sized
screen fonts are not available.

  -=greg




Re: downloading debian

2001-10-03 Thread Vineet Kumar
* kumar suresh ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [011003 07:13]:
> Hello,
> 
> We tried to download debian cdimages as instructed by
> the latest psudo-image kit but from most of the sites
> we were unable to download the required files. With
> many sites, the make-psudo-imaage command terminated
> immediately and with someother sites we could donwload
> only upto 21MB or so. Thereafterwards,
> make-psudo-imaage command returned the prompt
> immediately.
> 
> So is there any site from where we can get latest
> debian? 

See www.bradmont.net (which, unfortunately, seems to be down at the
moment). I'll burn and mail you one for the cost of the disc + shipping,
mail me privately if interested. (potato discs only right now.)

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Re: setting a tty to login to remote computer via ssh

2001-10-03 Thread Vineet Kumar
* Shriram Shrikumar ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [011003 11:09]:
> Hi All,
> 
> just wondering if it was possible to set one of the tty's like tty8 to login 
> to
> another machine via ssh instead of just to the local machine.

Haven't done this, but check out the manpage for getty. The -l option
looks like it may help you. You may end up creating a wrapper script
that takes arguments like /bin/login and hands them off to ssh.

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X compilation problem

2001-10-03 Thread ice . planet
Hello

I'm using debian and i have tried to compile the new X (4.1.0)
I'm using the sources from your ftp and the compilation always takes about 700 
mb of HDD space and then fails sayng that someone is not member of some group.
I tried various kernel versions (from 2.2.17 to 2.4.10), but nothing help.
I have also reinstaled the debian more times, triing stable, testing, unstable, 
but still with the same result.

Please give me some help how to compile this, because if i use .deb i have to 
put the whole system (dependenci konflicts) to unstable or testing, but i want 
stay stable with X 4.1.0

Thank you
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Re: SPAM WARNING: spammers use Debian lists for harvesting

2001-10-03 Thread Jason Boxman
On Wednesday 03 October 2001 12:21 pm, Craig Dickson wrote:
> Jason Boxman wrote:
> > I find the effective rule is to trash mail that doesn't have my email
> > in the From: address. Hopefully the spammers won't ever catch on...
>
> Sorry, I haven't been following this thread, but doesn't that mean that
> if someone bcc's you on a legit message that you really ought to read,
> you won't see it?
>
> (I assume when you say "From:", you really mean either "From:" or "Cc:"
> -- if not, then even a non-blind copy would get tossed.)

Well, yeah.  And I filter mailing lists and specific addresses first.

The only false positives I had were from forgetting to match on 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] in addition to [EMAIL PROTECTED]

> Craig



Re: X fonts problem

2001-10-03 Thread J.H.M. Dassen \(Ray\)
On Wed, Oct 03, 2001 at 20:32:33 +0200, martin f krafft wrote:
> certain programs, like "plan", "dia", display text as dotted rectangles,
> and not even one per letter.

See http://www.debian.org/News/weekly/2001/23/ under "Fonts missing after
upgrade".

HTH,
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Re: esd esdctl?

2001-10-03 Thread Vineet Kumar
* Robert L. Harris ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [011003 10:32]:
> 
> 
> Debian sid box running gnome.  I have esound installed and esound-common.
> When I do a "ps -eaf | grep esd" it doesn't find anything.  I also can't find
> which package contains esdctl which used to be the way to start and stop 
> the esd daemon.




> 
> Anyone know which package?

/usr/bin/esdctl is part of esound-clients

I have esound, esound-common, and esound-clients, and It Works For Me.
If just having those packages doesn't start esound under gnome
automatically for you, check gnome's sound configuration, and ensure
that the "start sound server" checkbox is selected. If it's still not
working, ask again and I'll dig through my config files to try to find
out where it's started from. (My initial searches returned nothing
useful).

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Re: IP Alias

2001-10-03 Thread Vineet Kumar
* Chad Morgan ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [011002 16:29]:
> 
> Hello,
>  
> I set up an IP Alias on my system but I'm unable to access the aliased IP
> address from other computers.
>  
> I have:
> eth0, IP Address A - can ping from my computer and from other computers
> eth0:0, IP Address B - can ping ONLY from my computer but not from others. It
> is listed in ifconfig
>  
> When I reverse the addresses
> eth0 = IP Address B and
> eth0:0 = IP Address A
> the same thing occurs.
>  
> I've followed the HOWTO and haven't been able to find any thing that I'm
> missing. Any ideas on something else I should be looking at.

what are the addresses and netmasks you're using?

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A simple question about wildcards with tar

2001-10-03 Thread Walter Landry
Greetings,

I'm trying to make a backup with tar, but there are certain files that
I don't want to include in the backup.  Reading the info documentation
about tar, it says that I can use the --exclude=PATTERN option.  So if
I type

  tar -cvf backup.tar --exclude='*.fig' *

then it excludes all files that end with .fig.  However, if I also
want to exclude files that end with .fig.bak, then it
seems that

  tar -cvf backup.tar --exclude='*.fig*' *

should work.  But it doesn't.  Typing 

  tar -cvf backup.tar --exclude='*.fig*' --exclude='*.fig' *

does work.  But it won't work for me in the general case, where I
won't know how many characters follow the pattern that I'm matching.
Does anyone know how to do this?

Thanks,
Walter Landry
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Re: new system

2001-10-03 Thread Vineet Kumar
* Brad Cramer ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [011002 20:46]:
> I am getting ready to build a new box and I would like to make it like
> the one I am currently using. I am running Sid updated daily. Is there
> a way to do a base install of potato on the new system then change
> apt.sources to point to sid and is there a file I can copy from my old
> system that will install all the same packages I currently have
> installed so I don't have to go through the headache of remembering
> everything I have installed up to this point. If there is such a file

dpkg --get-selections | ssh newbox dpkg --set-selections

> what is it and if this is possible is there anything I need to watch
> out for?

make sure the new box has updated its available packages list before
doing that (with dselect update). Also, dpkg --set-selections requires
root, so my spiffy pipe will only work if the newbox permits root logins
via ssh or if you stick a 'sudo' in there or something.

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