Re: Problems installing postfix
> jennyw wrote: > Is this normal? I tried installing exim and sendmail instead, but the > same thing results. Do I have to do something special to get the spool > files created? Do I have to do something special to get the postfix > (or whatever) to write to the spool files? Postfix probably creates them when you receive mail. Matthew
Re: heads-up (and a chance to object) on expect packages
On Tue, May 22, 2001 at 07:33:25AM +0100, Adrian Bridgett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> spake forth: > > I'm planning to drop the two separate expect packages (expect5.24 and > > expect5.31) and create a single "expect" package with the current version. > > An automated upgrade path will be provided. [...] > How compatible are the two? i.e. why was the split done in the first > place? Maybe it's worth uploading the new one (and getting rid of > expect5.31), but leaving 5.24 around for a couple of weeks in case there is > a compatibility problem? The split predates my maintainership, though I'm planning to ask the previous maintainer... I may keep 5.24 around for a bit, but my main motivations are that: a) with all the issues of tcl breakage between versions, I have enough of the "several versions of the same software" packages to deal with b) expect5.24 5.30.1-7 is getting into the area of "ugly and confusing", and updating the name of the package w/each release sounds as fun as needles in my eyeballs :) Basically, I don't really feel like maintaining two expects along with three (possibly soon four) tcls and tks, a couple of itcls, etc... so unless someone actually finds utility from the old one that they can't get from the new one, I'd like to get rid of it. -- Mike Markley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> GPG: 0x3B047084 7FC7 0DC0 EF31 DF83 7313 FE2B 77A8 F36A 3B04 7084 You! What PLANET is this! - McCoy, "The City on the Edge of Forever", stardate 3134.0
Re: logitech mouseManPlus and fourth button: how to make it work?
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > On (15/05/01 21:46), Erik Steffl wrote: > > is there any way to get the fourth button (on the side of the logitech > > mouseMan with wheel) working? It does not work at all - not even with > > xev. > > I had a similar problem getting my new-fangled optical wheel mouse to > work (it has two extra buttons on the sides). The solution, in my > case, was the ExplorerPS/2 protocol and swapping the buttons round still no reaction to sidebutton (when using xev). what settings do you use in XF86Config? > with xmodmap when starting X. Anyway, there are instructions for > getting the wheel and extra buttons to work for various mice at the > following web page:- > > http://www-sop.inria.fr/koala/colas/mouse-wheel-scroll/ that's were I started, I also read README.mouse that comes with xfree86 which says: MouseMan+ has two buttons on top, one side button and a roller. FirstMouse+ has two buttons and a roller. The roller movement is recognized as the Z axis motion. The roller also acts as the third button. The side button is recognized as the fourth button. it does not work though (tried it with xev, no events are generated by fourth button (when z axis is mapped to buttons 3 and 4, it might be a problem because it say sidebutton is 4)), however when I set the wheel buttons to 5 and 6 (unlike usual 4 and 5) I get the very funny behaviour: whenever I get event from button 5 (when rotating wheel forward) I get the button 4 event, even if I don't click button 4 (which I thought might be button 4), look at the relevant parts of xev output: turn wheel (button 5), then hit button 3 (I would expect two event from 5, two from 3 but there is one event from button 4 inbetween): ButtonPress event, serial 18, synthetic NO, window 0xa1, root 0x32, subw 0x0, time 2752043250, (76,134), root:(581,158), state 0x800, button 5, same_screen YES ButtonRelease event, serial 18, synthetic NO, window 0xa1, root 0x32, subw 0x0, time 2752043250, (76,134), root:(581,158), state 0x1800, button 5, same_screen YES ButtonPress event, serial 18, synthetic NO, window 0xa1, root 0x32, subw 0x0, time 2752048373, (76,134), root:(581,158), state 0x800, button 3, same_screen YES ButtonRelease event, serial 18, synthetic NO, window 0xa1, root 0x32, subw 0x0, time 2752048373, (76,134), root:(581,158), state 0xc00, button 4, same_screen YES ButtonRelease event, serial 18, synthetic NO, window 0xa1, root 0x32, subw 0x0, time 2752048554, (76,134), root:(581,158), state 0x400, button 3, same_screen YES turn wheel (button 5), then press side button (button 4): ButtonPress event, serial 23, synthetic NO, window 0xa1, root 0x32, subw 0x0, time 2752170858, (50,174), root:(555,198), state 0x800, button 5, same_screen YES ButtonRelease event, serial 23, synthetic NO, window 0xa1, root 0x32, subw 0x0, time 2752170858, (50,174), root:(555,198), state 0x1800, button 5, same_screen YES ButtonRelease event, serial 23, synthetic NO, window 0xa1, root 0x32, subw 0x0, time 2752173334, (50,174), root:(555,198), state 0x800, button 4, same_screen YES I use: debian unstable kernel 2.4.3 xfree86 4.0.3 cordless mouseManWheel (by logitech) here's the relavant part of XF86Config: Section "InputDevice" Identifier "Logitech" Driver "mouse" Option "CorePointer" Option "Protocol" "ExplorerPS/2" Option "Device""/dev/psaux" Option "Emulate3Buttons" "false" Option "Buttons" "6" Option "ZAxisMapping" "5 6" EndSection when I set Protocol to IMPS/2, there is no 'button 4' extra event, other than that it works exactly the same (buttons are 1 - 3, wheel generates 5 and 6) anybody has more insight into mouse mysteries of X? TIA erik
Re: Unkillable process
> "Petr" == Petr Dvorak <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Petr> netscape is known doing this, 'kill -9 ' should get rid Petr> of them, signal 9 is not maskable. My experience, there are only two ways of killing netscape: 1. from netscape or the window manager close function. 2. kill -9. Last I tried, if I pressed Ctrl+C at the console running netscape in the foreground, or if I try to kill it with -9, then it crashed and can only be killed with -9. So it seems that the cleanup routine that intercepts the signal is buggy, and never returns. -- Brian May <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Re: modutils
Thomas Weinbrenner wrote: > ,[ /usr/src/linux/Documentation/Changes ] > | Current Minimal Requirements > | > | > | Upgrade to at *least* these software revisions before thinking you've > | encountered a bug! If you're unsure what version you're currently > | running, the suggested command should tell you. > | > | [...] > | > | o modutils 2.4.2 # insmod -V > ` It means that the package has to be reinstalled from unstable, right? I have updated my sources.list so that it points to unstable too. bdg:~# apt-get install modutils Reading Package Lists... Done Building Dependency Tree... Done The following extra packages will be installed: libc6 libc6-dev libdb2 libdb2-util 5 packages upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 210 not upgraded. Need to get 177kB/5996kB of archives. After unpacking 8225kB will be used. Do you want to continue? [Y/n] It seems that libc6 has to be upgraded too; what are the consequences of having unstable libs on a stable machine? Well, actually, my question is: what unstable packages do you have to install on a stable machine in order to have the machine having 2.4.4 kernel and be able to run it smoothly? I'd like to do "apt-get dist-upgrade", but having read those horror stories Is there any way to upgrade "piecemeally" so that if some libraries create some error then it would be easy to step back a bit (and having be able to boot the machine, of course). TIA, Oki
Re: modutils
On Wed, 23 May 2001 12:33:12 +0700, Oki DZ writes: >It seems that libc6 has to be upgraded too; what are the consequences of >having unstable libs on a stable machine? Well, actually, my question >is: what unstable packages do you have to install on a stable machine in >order to have the machine having 2.4.4 kernel and be able to run it >smoothly? There´s a FAQ on www.debian.org about that, see http://www.debian.org/News/2001/20010415 cheers, &rw -- / Ing. Robert Waldner | <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> \ \ Xsoft GmbH | T: +43 1 796 36 36 692 /
Re: modutils
Oki DZ wrote: > It seems that libc6 has to be upgraded too; what are the consequences of > having unstable libs on a stable machine? Why not compile your own modutils package from the sources in unstable? You don't need to upgrade glibc then. > Well, actually, my question > is: what unstable packages do you have to install on a stable machine in > order to have the machine having 2.4.4 kernel and be able to run it > smoothly? Modutils if you use modules (and who doesn't), the Reiserfs utils if you use that, probably others (devfs, iptables come to mind). Depends what features you use, but modutils is probably the bare minimum. Matthew
Re: Unkillable process
"Karsten M. Self" wrote: > Using kill -9 on a process means you may have to clean up the pieces. > Signals 15, 1, and 2 (TERM, HUP, and INT), are generally considered to > be polite requests to jobs to get the hell over it already, but to clean I think Unix designers were having mixed feelings about "kill"; "kill -15", killing me softly... ha, just like a song, ...killing me softly with his words ...killing me softly with his songs... > up on the way out. SIGKILL is nonmaskable, and a process *can't* > perform cleanup or garbage collection even if it wants to. I see; so the memory that once was used, wouldn't be returned back to the OS, right? > Most zombies are waiting for a resource to close. Hitting the other end > of the resource (parent or child) generally does same. So basically, if that happened, it just means that the other side was not yet exiting. (?) Really mean... > This is a case where you may have to shut down. Sometimes you can get > the buggers if you shoot at 'em enough ways though. Whoa, I tried many times, kill -9, killall -9 , to no avail. BTW, if I unload the NIC driver (along with lo), would the daemon exit? I was thinking about it, but since I was remote logging in to the machine, rebooting was the only option. Oki
Re: modutils
Robert Waldner wrote: > There´s a FAQ on www.debian.org about that, see > http://www.debian.org/News/2001/20010415 I see, it's already on the homepage... Well, I think it's time to have a new feature on apt-get; it has to print something like: "Hi, wanna hear some news before continuing?" [Y/n] and then cache the response so that next time apt-get run, the question wouldn't be asked. Oki
Re: modutils
Matthew Dalton wrote: > > Oki DZ wrote: > > It seems that libc6 has to be upgraded too; what are the consequences of > > having unstable libs on a stable machine? > > Why not compile your own modutils package from the sources in unstable? > You don't need to upgrade glibc then. Instructions for this are here: http://www.debianplanet.org/debianplanet/article.php?sid=160&mode=thread&order=0 Matthew
Re: Unkillable process
on Wed, May 23, 2001 at 01:11:48PM +0700, Oki DZ ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > "Karsten M. Self" wrote: > > Using kill -9 on a process means you may have to clean up the pieces. > > Signals 15, 1, and 2 (TERM, HUP, and INT), are generally considered to > > be polite requests to jobs to get the hell over it already, but to clean > > I think Unix designers were having mixed feelings about "kill"; "kill > -15", killing me softly... ha, just like a song, ...killing me softly > with his words ...killing me softly with his songs... Reminds me of what she said whennevermind. > > up on the way out. SIGKILL is nonmaskable, and a process *can't* > > perform cleanup or garbage collection even if it wants to. > > I see; so the memory that once was used, wouldn't be returned back to > the OS, right? No. Your memory's going to be released. But your files might be scrambled. I would *not* 'kill -9' my mysqld server. > > Most zombies are waiting for a resource to close. Hitting the other end > > of the resource (parent or child) generally does same. > > So basically, if that happened, it just means that the other side was > not yet exiting. (?) > Really mean... Something like. > > This is a case where you may have to shut down. Sometimes you can get > > the buggers if you shoot at 'em enough ways though. > > Whoa, I tried many times, kill -9, killall -9 , to no avail. Look for parents/children. The zombies themselves won't hurt anything unless they fill your process table. > BTW, if I unload the NIC driver (along with lo), would the daemon exit? > I was thinking about it, but since I was remote logging in to the > machine, rebooting was the only option. Maybe. -- Karsten M. Self http://kmself.home.netcom.com/ What part of "Gestalt" don't you understand? There is no K5 cabal http://gestalt-system.sourceforge.net/ http://www.kuro5hin.org Disclaimer: http://www.goldmark.org/jeff/stupid-disclaimers/ pgp0Mzy4UZqba.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Unkillable process
On Tuesday 22 May 2001 11:29 pm, Karsten M. Self wrote: > No. Your memory's going to be released. But your files might be > scrambled. I would *not* 'kill -9' my mysqld server. I second this one from personal experience! Very bad... lucky I did it before I actually started working with the thing, because it led to a reinstall. Twice! -- - David Nusinow [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Unkillable process
Oki DZ wrote: > > "Karsten M. Self" wrote: > > Using kill -9 on a process means you may have to clean up the pieces. > > Signals 15, 1, and 2 (TERM, HUP, and INT), are generally considered to > > be polite requests to jobs to get the hell over it already, but to clean > > I think Unix designers were having mixed feelings about "kill"; "kill > -15", killing me softly... ha, just like a song, ...killing me softly > with his words ...killing me softly with his songs... > > > up on the way out. SIGKILL is nonmaskable, and a process *can't* > > perform cleanup or garbage collection even if it wants to. actually kill is not really kill, it just send signals, some of them ask or force process to die... > I see; so the memory that once was used, wouldn't be returned back to > the OS, right? AFAIK the OS takes care of all/most of the resources - file are closed (but not saved), memory is released etc... if you see frozen netscape, before killing it check the free memory and check the memory after you killed -9 netscape, lot of memory is freed (not sure if all) > > This is a case where you may have to shut down. Sometimes you can get > > the buggers if you shoot at 'em enough ways though. > > Whoa, I tried many times, kill -9, killall -9 , to no avail. > BTW, if I unload the NIC driver (along with lo), would the daemon exit? > I was thinking about it, but since I was remote logging in to the > machine, rebooting was the only option. check if it's a zombie - if it's a zombie it was already killed, just waits for something to be really unloaded from memory (usually it doesn't take long). IIRC one reason an application is zombie is that its parent waits for return value (which is sort of held by zombie, waitin for parent to process the info or something like that). generally, if you see a zombie, just wait. sooner or later they should go away... erik
Re: Unkillable process
"Karsten M. Self" wrote: > > on Wed, May 23, 2001 at 01:11:48PM +0700, Oki DZ ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: ... > > BTW, if I unload the NIC driver (along with lo), would the daemon exit? > > I was thinking about it, but since I was remote logging in to the > > machine, rebooting was the only option. you cannot unload the driver as long as it is used... erik
Re: moving partitions to another hard drive
On Tue, 22 May 2001 23:04:49 -0500 ktb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Put both drives in and create your partitions on hdb with fdisk or > cfdisk. > Create your file systems with "mkfs.ext2 -c" and "mkswap -c" > Mount /dev/hdb1 and copy / on hda over with "cp -ax" > Swap the drives and replace. > > See the howto at - > http://www.linuxdoc.org/HOWTO/mini/Hard-Disk-Upgrade/index.html The Hard-Disk-Upgrade is indeed a very useful document. I would add something to what Renai has written - remember that when you come to reboot your system with the new drive there will be nothing in the master boot record so you will need a floppy boot disk. I have a dos-formatted bootable floppy containing loadlin and an autoexec.bat which reads: loadlin vmlinuz root=/dev/hda2 ro I like loadlin for bootable floppies because it is so easy to simply change the /dev/hda2 bit to point to any partition. If you don't have DOS on your machine you can even boot with another DOS floppy (like disk one of a DOS install set), run Edit and change the partition reference. There is no messing with LILO. All you need to do is create a bootable DOS floppy, copy loadlin and your current kernel onto it and create autoexec.bat as above. That's it. Once you have managed to boot your new Linux partition you can, of course, re-run LILO and you are back in business. -- Phillip Deackes Using Progeny Debian Linux
RE: [users] Maildir protocaol spec?
I want to use a maildir as a sort of queue for processing incoming emails with structered data which needs to be processed and written to a db. Now, once I've decided to read a message, I move it to ./cur, but how do I let any other process like a POP3 server know that I'm currently reading this message and could be delieting it from under its nose? Also how do I know whether another process might be reading messages I left for processing in ./cur ? Basically what are the rules for reading & deleting. Writing seems to be only dependent on the naming scheme, right? Thanks, Eugene van Zyl -Original Message- From: MaD dUCK [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, May 22, 2001 9:35 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Debian-User Subject: Re: [users] Maildir protocaol spec? also sprach Eugene van Zyl (on Tue, 22 May 2001 12:50:47PM +0200): > Where can I get a document describing the maildir format? The short > page on Dan Bernstein's site is informative but I doubt complete, I > can figure out how to read and mark messages to ./cur from ./new but > nought is said about ./tmp and mention is made of the maildir > writing algorythm? what do you need to know precisely? i have taken maildir apart in many senses and can probably answer you. for instance, marking messages as read is done by moving the file from new to cur, and *then* to rename it to *:2,S martin; (greetings from the heart of the sun.) \ echo mailto: !#^."<*>"|tr "<*> mailto:"; [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- you step in the stream, but the water has moved on. this page is not here. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
root owner (or group) of lot of files in ~erik?
I have just found out that ~erik/.Xauthority is owned by root and I cannot access my X server (I couldn't run any X applications). I have no idea how that happened, I have started additional X server as root (startx -- :1), just like many times before, doing some testing of mouse settings. and now I checked more and I see that huge number of files in my home directory (10813out of 122342 (that includes ., .. and directories) have group set to root. Some files have group set to users. Most of them have group set to erik. jojda:~>groups erik disk audio dip www-data video jojda:~>grep erik /etc/passwd erik:x:1000:1000:Erik Steffl,,,:/home/erik:/usr/bin/tcsh examples of files: -rw-r--r--1 erik users 1910784 May 1 23:08 Chaos_Uk_-_Skate_Song.3. mp3 ... -rw-r--r--1 erik root 143 Nov 3 2000 Miro Zbirka - Dr.Jackyl& Mr.Hyde.mp3 ... -rw-r--r--1 erik users 4390912 Nov 3 2000 Miro_Zbirka_-_C'est_La_V ie.mp3 note the same date on the last two of them - it was probably same gnapster session... most (all?) of the fiels with groups = users was downloaded by napster, but I don't see any pattern to the files where group is set to root. and the most puzzling is the .Xauthority - how could the permission be changed? any ideas? TIA erik
Re: Unkillable process
on Tue, May 22, 2001 at 11:35:37PM -0700, Erik Steffl ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > Oki DZ wrote: <...> > > Whoa, I tried many times, kill -9, killall -9 , to no avail. > > BTW, if I unload the NIC driver (along with lo), would the daemon exit? > > I was thinking about it, but since I was remote logging in to the > > machine, rebooting was the only option. > > check if it's a zombie - if it's a zombie it was already killed, just > waits for something to be really unloaded from memory (usually it > doesn't take long). IIRC one reason an application is zombie is that > its parent waits for return value (which is sort of held by zombie, > waitin for parent to process the info or something like that). From _UNIX Power Tools_ (O'Reilly & Associates): You cannot kill zombies; they are already dead. "What is a zombie?" I hear you ask. "Why should a dead process stay around?" Dead processes stick around for two principal reasons. The lesser of these is that they provide a sort of "context" for closing open file descriptors, and shuting down other resources (memory, swap space, and so forth). This generally happens immediately, and the process remails only for its major purpose: to hold onto its name and exit status. So, it's sort of an inheritance/probate process for Unix processes, except that the body doesn't go away until the will has been properly executed the entire estate distributed. It's dead, it's not doing anything, it just wants its final bequests fulfilled. -- Karsten M. Self http://kmself.home.netcom.com/ What part of "Gestalt" don't you understand? There is no K5 cabal http://gestalt-system.sourceforge.net/ http://www.kuro5hin.org Disclaimer: http://www.goldmark.org/jeff/stupid-disclaimers/ pgplKUjfCZAxk.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: modutils
Robert Waldner wrote: > There´s a FAQ on www.debian.org about that, see > http://www.debian.org/News/2001/20010415 OK, I've upgraded all the necessary packages; now depmod works fine. Thanks a lot. BTW, I see some conflicting programs; those on net-tools and netbase. debsums net-tools would return the following: bin/netstatOK sbin/ifconfig OK sbin/nameifOK sbin/plipconfig OK sbin/rarp OK sbin/route OK sbin/slattach OK sbin/ipmaddrOK sbin/iptunnel OK sbin/mii-tool OK usr/sbin/arpOK debsums | grep FAIL would return: usr/share/doc/mailman/images/mailman.jpg FAILED usr/lib/mozilla/chrome/installed-chrome.txt FAILED bin/netstatFAILED sbin/ifconfig FAILED sbin/rarp FAILED sbin/route FAILED sbin/slattach FAILED sbin/plipconfig FAILED sbin/ipmaddrFAILED sbin/iptunnel FAILED But since I mainly use the program that come from net-tool, I think this would be fine. Oki
Re: root owner (or group) of lot of files in ~erik?
on Tue, May 22, 2001 at 11:54:42PM -0700, Erik Steffl ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > I have just found out that ~erik/.Xauthority is owned by root and I > cannot access my X server (I couldn't run any X applications). You every symlink or hardlink this to your root .Xauthority file, by any chance? > I have no idea how that happened, I have started additional X server > as root (startx -- :1), just like many times before, doing some testing > of mouse settings. > > and now I checked more and I see that huge number of files in my home > directory (10813out of 122342 (that includes ., .. and directories) have > group set to root. Some files have group set to users. Most of them have > group set to erik. How'd you start as root? Did you 'su' or 'su -'? > jojda:~>groups > erik disk audio dip www-data video > jojda:~>grep erik /etc/passwd > erik:x:1000:1000:Erik Steffl,,,:/home/erik:/usr/bin/tcsh > > examples of files: > > -rw-r--r--1 erik users 1910784 May 1 23:08 > Chaos_Uk_-_Skate_Song.3. > mp3 > > ... > > -rw-r--r--1 erik root 143 Nov 3 2000 Miro Zbirka - > Dr.Jackyl& > Mr.Hyde.mp3 > ... > -rw-r--r--1 erik users 4390912 Nov 3 2000 > Miro_Zbirka_-_C'est_La_V > ie.mp3 > > note the same date on the last two of them - it was probably same > gnapster session... Running gnapster as root? You play Russian roulette when you're bored as well? > most (all?) of the fiels with groups = users was downloaded by > napster, but I don't see any pattern to the files where group is set to > root. $ find ~ -user root -print0 | xargs -0 ls -ld ...and explore for patterns. > and the most puzzling is the .Xauthority - how could the permission be > changed? I have my suspicions. -- Karsten M. Self http://kmself.home.netcom.com/ What part of "Gestalt" don't you understand? There is no K5 cabal http://gestalt-system.sourceforge.net/ http://www.kuro5hin.org Disclaimer: http://www.goldmark.org/jeff/stupid-disclaimers/ pgpL3EKJRMsdv.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Karsten's browser reviews (updated)
Last time I've checked, this deb-url contained galeon and ximian packages of mozilla. They use a strange numbering scheme for the libnspr4 package and are never uptodate. Take the deb of galeon and install it with "dpkg -i galeon.deb". NB: galeon won't work with mozilla0.9 from kitame. You need to keep your old 0.8.1 or you need to download the deb source add the attached patch in the sub-directory pstream/patches/ and rebuild it. If you are under unstable (aka sid), you can download the resulting package at http://christophe.barbe.online.fr/download/ Christophe On Tue, 22 May 2001 21:10:57 Kai Weber wrote: > + Karsten M. Self : > > > > Where did you get your .deb's from? The links on the website seem to > be > > > dead! > > > > > > Craig > > > > Mozilla I'm getting through the standard Debian packages. > > > > Galeon I downloaded from ftp.sourceforge.net: > > > > ftp://ftp.sourceforge.net/pub/sourceforge/galeon/ > > > > ...currently looks like: galeon_0.10.5-1.mozilla.0.8.1_i386.deb > > Are there any experiences with the moziall builds from > http://pandora.debian.org/~kitame/mozilla/? When I use the apt-line from > above (ftp://ftp.sourceforge...) I get the following: > > $ apt-get dist-upgrade -u -d > Reading Package Lists... Done > Building Dependency Tree... Done > Calculating Upgrade... Done > The following packages will be REMOVED: > galeon mozilla nautilus-mozilla > The following packages will be upgraded > libnspr4 libpgsql2.1 > 2 packages upgraded, 0 newly installed, 3 to remove and 0 not > upgraded. > > There will be the nautilus-moziall package be deinstalled. That is not > what I want! But my current Galeon version > from http://people.debian.org/~btb/src/galeon has some problems. Nobody > is planing an official and BTS-able debian package? > > Kai. > -- > k a i w e b e r | mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >w w w | http://www.glorybox.de/ > > > -- > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > -- Christophe Barbé Software Engineer - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Lineo France - Lineo High Availability Group 42-46, rue Médéric - 92110 Clichy - France phone (33).1.41.40.02.12 - fax (33).1.41.40.02.01 http://www.lineo.com
Re: weird routing problem??
> ezekiel:/home/thoover# route -n > Kernel IP routing table > Destination Gateway Genmask Flags Metric RefUse Iface > 192.168.1.0 0.0.0.0 255.255.255.0 U 0 00 eth0 > 0.0.0.0 192.168.1.110.0.0.0 UG0 00 eth0 There's your problem. Your gateway should be 192.168.1.10, not 192.168.1.11. -- Kevin
Re: need help with ALSA / soundcard
Hi all, Vester, did you use the alsa modules debain package or you take it from www.alsa-project.org source. I got the same problem : I've tried several thing and everything load fine but I hear no sound (after unmuting my card) or the alsamixer said me thing like "lsamixer: failed to open mixer #0/#0: No ..." . Christophe ... PS: Who is Cameron Matheson ? He doesn't start the thread and suddenly claims that an advice fixed the problem. On Wed, 23 May 2001 02:22:45 Noah L. Meyerhans wrote: > On Wed, May 23, 2001 at 12:36:12AM +0200, vester wrote: > > modprobe snd-seq-oss says: > > /lib/modules/2.4.4/misc/snd-seq-oss.o: init_module: Device or resource > > busy > > Hint: insmor errors can be caused by incorrect module parameters, > > including invalid IO or IRQ parameters > > > > alsamixer says: > > > > alsamixer: failed to open mixer #0/#0: No such file or directory > > Run the snddevices script that's included with the alsa-driver package. > I believe that is mentioned in the INSTALL file. > > noah > > -- > ___ > | Web: http://web.morgul.net/~frodo/ > | PGP Public Key: http://web.morgul.net/~frodo/mail.html > > -- Christophe Barbé Software Engineer - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Lineo France - Lineo High Availability Group 42-46, rue Médéric - 92110 Clichy - France phone (33).1.41.40.02.12 - fax (33).1.41.40.02.01 http://www.lineo.com
Re: Unkillable process
IIRC this is a know issue with kernel 2.4.3. D process can't be killed : D mean UNinterruptible sleep and kill send a signal which wake-up target process if they are in an interruptible state.. Upgrade to 2.4.4 even if there is some drawbacks with it (there's a fork issue), or wait for 2.4.5 which should be better. Christophe On Wed, 23 May 2001 09:06:40 Karsten M. Self wrote: > on Tue, May 22, 2001 at 11:35:37PM -0700, Erik Steffl > ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > > Oki DZ wrote: > > <...> > > > > Whoa, I tried many times, kill -9, killall -9 , to no > avail. > > > BTW, if I unload the NIC driver (along with lo), would the daemon > exit? > > > I was thinking about it, but since I was remote logging in to the > > > machine, rebooting was the only option. > > > > check if it's a zombie - if it's a zombie it was already killed, just > > waits for something to be really unloaded from memory (usually it > > doesn't take long). IIRC one reason an application is zombie is that > > its parent waits for return value (which is sort of held by zombie, > > waitin for parent to process the info or something like that). > > From _UNIX Power Tools_ (O'Reilly & Associates): > > You cannot kill zombies; they are already dead. > > "What is a zombie?" I hear you ask. "Why should a dead process stay > around?" > > Dead processes stick around for two principal reasons. The lesser > of these is that they provide a sort of "context" for closing open > file descriptors, and shuting down other resources (memory, swap > space, and so forth). This generally happens immediately, and the > process remails only for its major purpose: to hold onto its name > and exit status. > > So, it's sort of an inheritance/probate process for Unix processes, > except that the body doesn't go away until the will has been properly > executed the entire estate distributed. It's dead, it's not doing > anything, it just wants its final bequests fulfilled. > > -- > Karsten M. Self http://kmself.home.netcom.com/ > What part of "Gestalt" don't you understand? There is no K5 cabal > http://gestalt-system.sourceforge.net/ http://www.kuro5hin.org >Disclaimer: http://www.goldmark.org/jeff/stupid-disclaimers/ > -- Christophe Barbé Software Engineer - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Lineo France - Lineo High Availability Group 42-46, rue Médéric - 92110 Clichy - France phone (33).1.41.40.02.12 - fax (33).1.41.40.02.01 http://www.lineo.com
memstat shows many /lib/ld-2.1.3.so processes
Hi, there is an odd phenomenon on one of my potato systems. memstat shows many ld replicas eating up the available memory. It seems that each process running is accompanied by such a loader replica resident in memory. Any hints? Thanks, Thomas # memstat 40k: PID 1 (/lib/libc-2.1.3.so) 60k: PID77 (/lib/ld-2.1.3.so) 108k: PID 133 (/lib/ld-2.1.3.so) 428k: PID 135 (/lib/ld-2.1.3.so) 120k: PID 148 (/lib/ld-2.1.3.so) 120k: PID 149 (/lib/ld-2.1.3.so) 120k: PID 150 (/lib/ld-2.1.3.so) 120k: PID 151 (/lib/ld-2.1.3.so) 52k: PID 186 (/lib/ld-2.1.3.so) 52k: PID 244 (/lib/ld-2.1.3.so) 52k: PID 252 (/lib/ld-2.1.3.so) 52k: PID 263 (/lib/ld-2.1.3.so) 52k: PID 272 (/lib/ld-2.1.3.so) 52k: PID 281 (/lib/ld-2.1.3.so) 52k: PID 290 (/lib/ld-2.1.3.so) 52k: PID 299 (/lib/ld-2.1.3.so) 28k: PID 308 (/lib/ld-2.1.3.so) 268k: PID 348 (/lib/ld-2.1.3.so) 284k: PID 356 (/lib/ld-2.1.3.so) 2404k: PID 359 (/lib/ld-2.1.3.so) 148k: PID 364 (/lib/ld-2.1.3.so) 40k: PID 368 (/lib/ld-2.1.3.so) 68k: PID 371 (/lib/ld-2.1.3.so) 244k: PID 374 (/lib/ld-2.1.3.so) 12412k: PID 381 (/dev/mem) 36k: PID 384 (/lib/ld-2.1.3.so) 36k: PID 385 (/lib/ld-2.1.3.so) 36k: PID 386 (/lib/ld-2.1.3.so) 36k: PID 387 (/lib/ld-2.1.3.so) 36k: PID 388 (/lib/ld-2.1.3.so) 36k: PID 389 (/lib/ld-2.1.3.so) 588k: PID 391 (/lib/ld-2.1.3.so) 436k: PID 406 (/lib/ld-2.1.3.so) 244k: PID 408 (/lib/ld-2.1.3.so) 68k: PID 411 (/lib/ld-2.1.3.so) 20k: /usr/sbin/inetd 308 248k: /usr/sbin/ntpd 364 308k: /usr/sbin/sendmail 348 16k: /usr/sbin/atd 368 36k: /usr/sbin/ypbind 148 149 150 151 24k: /usr/sbin/cron 371 200k: /usr/sbin/sshd 356 406 20k: /usr/sbin/automount 186 244 252 263 272 281 290 299 4021632k: /dev/mem 381 1456k: /usr/X11R6/bin/XFree86 381 8k: /usr/lib/autofs/lookup_file.so 186 244 252 263 272 281 290 299 12k: /usr/lib/autofs/parse_sun.so 186 244 252 263 272 281 290 299 8k: /usr/lib/autofs/mount_nfs.so 186 244 252 263 272 281 290 299 408k: /usr/X11R6/bin/xfs 359 8k: /usr/bin/memstat 411 76k: /usr/bin/kdm 374 391 76k: /lib/ld-2.1.3.so 1 77 133 135 148 149 150 151 186 244 252 263 272 ... 864k: /lib/libc-2.1.3.so 1 77 133 135 148 149 150 151 186 244 252 263 27... 20k: /lib/libcrypt-2.1.3.so 356 374 391 406 232k: /lib/libdb-2.1.3.so 186 244 252 263 272 281 290 299 308 348 406 12k: /lib/libdl-2.1.3.so 186 244 252 263 272 281 290 299 356 374 381 39... 112k: /lib/libm-2.1.3.so 359 364 381 391 40k: /lib/libnss_compat-2.1.3.so 406 76k: /lib/libnsl-2.1.3.so 77 133 148 149 150 151 348 356 371 406 408 68k: /lib/libpthread-0.8.so 148 149 150 151 364 228k: /lib/libncurses.so.5.0 408 444k: /bin/bash 408 28k: /lib/libpam.so.0.72 356 374 391 406 12k: /lib/security/pam_env.so 406 8k: /lib/security/pam_mail.so 406 4k: /lib/security/pam_warn.so 406 ...
Re: Unkillable process
Oki DZ <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >"Karsten M. Self" wrote: >> I usually try to track down process relationships with 'pstree', then >> try killing related process with 15, 1, 2, and, if all else fails, 9. > >killall -9 would be much more efficient, right? 'killall' is a very dangerous command to get used to using. If you ever find yourself on a Solaris machine, killall really does mean that; it ignores the argument and kills all processes (possibly apart from init). Since you're probably root at the time you're doing this sort of thing, you'll find yourself with an unusable system. For that reason, I always advise people to forget that killall exists, even if it's a handy short cut on Linux. -- Colin Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
newbie problem
Hi all, I've treid everything i know or i've learned from this list and i couldnt manage to make x server work... I have an i810 board ann 2.2 potato. as a newbie i'm stuck... sometimes i say myself just give it up and install mandrake or something (because i've heard its easier) but i dont want to give up. So my question is is there anybody/anywhere or anything that i can get some help or information ? I've written to list twice and i couldnt just search google and find answers... :(( Thanks in advance...
Re: weird routing problem??
> Internet > | > | (external NIC) > | > ariel > | | >(192.168.1.10) | | (192.168.247.10) <--- (two internal NICs) > | | > | |___ > || > || > || > wiredSubnet wirelessSubnet > - --- > taz (192.168.1.2) paltiel (192.168.247.6) > woody (192.168.1.3) > ezekiel (192.168.1.4) > noah (192.168.1.5) > >ezekiel:/home/thoover# route -n >Kernel IP routing table >Destination Gateway Genmask Flags Metric RefUse > Iface >192.168.1.0 0.0.0.0 255.255.255.0 U 0 00 > eth0 >0.0.0.0 192.168.1.110.0.0.0 UG0 00 > eth0 ^^ This should be 10. With the current setting Ezekiel can indeed connect to Ariel (that's on the same subnet), but it doesn't know how to reach other networks. Iwan.
gnumeric
I have a stable (2.2r3) system and this is the wrong time for me to think of upgrading to testing. It would be very useful, though, to have a more up-to-date version of gnumeric than the one available in stable (stable has 0.47; testing has 0.64). I don't use the whole gnome beast, but I do use two parts of it---gnumeric and panel, so I have (at least) as much of the gnome setup as is required to run them. I thought to try to compile the version of gnumeric that's in testing and tried: apt-get --compile source gnumeric (after adding the needed line to sources.list and updating). The configuration script, however, exits early on with this message: configure: error: Could not find the gnomeConf.sh file that is generated by gnome-libs install make: *** [build-stamp] Error 1 Build command 'cd gnumeric-0.64 && dpkg-buildpackage -b -uc' failed. E: Child process failed I'm not sure which of the gnome libraries causes the creation of gnomeConf.sh on installation. Guessing, I tried installing libgnome-dev from stable, but apt offered to install a total of 13 packages to satisfy dependencies. And that seemed like too much overhead for an upgrade of one program, especially when I wasn't sure that installing all that stuff would actually solve the problem. Is there anyone who has successfully compiled more recent versions of gnumeric on a potato system? Or is there anyone who could offer advice on how to get further with this? Thanks very much, Jim
Re: newbie problem
on Wed, May 23, 2001 at 11:28:34AM +0300, Derya PALANCI ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > Hi all, > > I've treid everything i know or i've learned from this list and i > couldnt manage to make x server work... I have an i810 board ann 2.2 > potato. as a newbie i'm stuck... sometimes i say myself just give it > up and install mandrake or something (because i've heard its easier) > but i dont want to give up. So my question is is there > anybody/anywhere or anything that i can get some help or information ? > I've written to list twice and i couldnt just search google and find > answers... :(( First, read: How to Report Bugs Effectively http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/bugs.html ... In a nutshell, the aim of a bug report is to enable the programmer to see the program failing in front of them. You can either show them in person, or give them careful and detailed instructions on how to make it fail. If they can make it fail, they will try to gather extra information until they know the cause. If they can't make it fail, they will have to ask you to gather that information for them. Provide specific details on what's failing, specifying: - Names and versions of software/hardware involved. - What you're doing (command input, with arguments if possible). - Error or diagnostic output. This can be terminal output, system logs, dmesg, various /proc resources, or physical descriptions of the problem, e.g.: "smoking mouse". Note that GNU/Linux, and GNU/Linux distros, aren't monolithic affairs, they're sets of systems and subsystems. If something doesn't work, you have to track it down to the appropriate root cause. -- Karsten M. Self http://kmself.home.netcom.com/ What part of "Gestalt" don't you understand? There is no K5 cabal http://gestalt-system.sourceforge.net/ http://www.kuro5hin.org Disclaimer: http://www.goldmark.org/jeff/stupid-disclaimers/ pgpGwuyyrrdVK.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: need help with ALSA / soundcard
Hi Vester, To use alsa-sound you don't need to configure the oss either as module or build-in while you build your kernel image. It was documented in the alsa-driver-0.5.10b.tar.bz2 package. Just configure the sound support in module or build-in, then compile your kernel as usual. If oss was build as module there will be a soundcore.o file in your /lib/modules/... directory. I don't know whether this helps or not. I am scared to provide infos', since I am still a newbie. yours, Sherab > >i'm using a vaio notebook with a yamaha ymf-754 soundcard on >debian/testing. i compiled the >kernel with CONFIG_SOUND CONFIG_SOUND_OSS and CONFIG_SOUND_YMFPCI as >modules (i know that the last one is the correct module for my soundcard, >because it worked with my old suse system) and succesfully loaded the >modules -- however i didn't hear sound with xmms > >since i used alsa drivers in my old suse configuration i apt-get installed >alsaconf...but alsa doesn't detect my soundcard automatically, so i >selected it myself which didn't work either. the alsa script gives me the >following output: > >Starting ALSA sound driver (version none):modprobe: Can't locate module >snd > no driver installed > >what can i do to make sound work? i don't particularly need to use alsa -- >i just want to have the soundcard working anyway i can! > >thanks! > >vester > > > > >-- >To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] >with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > __ Advertise with ZFREE - to find out more click below http://www.zfree.co.nz/about-us/advert.html
Re: XDM or GNOME???
On Wed, 23 May 2001 01:57:09 +0200, spider wrote: > ** 1. did i do the right thing??? i mean is it the right file? > ** 2. there is this GNOME panel and icons on the desktop, but i dont have an 1. My .xsession file: sawfish & exec gnome-session 2. This is cause you have no windowmanager loaded! If you have the newest gnome, version 1.4.x, you should use sawfish to have the best support of windowmananger for gnome. If you use the gnome version of potato you can use sawmill. You can use most other windowmanagers. But sawmill or sawfish are the best i mean. Timo
Re: Netscape and Flash problem
On Tue, 22 May 2001 13:30:08 -0700, Karsten M. Self wrote: > ** My suggestion is to get a different browser (galeon, konqueror, or > ** mozilla are strongly recommended), disable flash in it, and get a > ** freestanding Flash viewer for the rare time when Flash is useful. One > ** was mentioned here in the past day or so that's licensed under GPL. Thanx for your suggestions! I have installed konquerror but i thougt netscape is the only way to use flash for the moment. I downloaded flash from www.macromedia.com. It's the newest version for netscape and there was no other flashplayers for linux, then this one for netscape. Do you have any idea where i can get a flashplayer for konqueror? And what do you mean whith a freestanding flash viewer? Timo
Re: modutils
On Wed, 23 May 2001 09:29:05 +0700, Oki DZ wrote: > ** Hi, > ** > ** If I did "depmod -a" then /lib/modules/2.4.4/modules.dep would become 0 > ** in size. > ** > ** Pretty interesting... if modules.dep's size is 0, then no module could > ** be loaded. > ** What could be the cause? > ** I have reinstalled modutils two times (yes, I'm desperate), but the same > ** thing happens. you have to use modutils 2.4.x for work with kernel 2.4! Timo
ALSA / sound
@ noah: hi...sorry, didn't read the INSTALL file carefully enough, sorry! =) anyway, it's all working now...except snd-seq-oss still won't load. but i hear sound -- that is what i wanted. thanks! @ christophe: i followed noah's suggestion and got the alsa package directly from www.alsa-project.org best, -vester
Re: need help with ALSA / soundcard
ooops, i forgot: use ./snddevices after you have compiled the drivers, and alsamixer will work! i think cameron just had the same problem and noah's advice fixed it for him -- good thing =) cheers, vester On Wed, 23 May 2001, [ISO-8859-1] christophe barbé wrote: > Hi all, > > Vester, did you use the alsa modules debain package or you take it from > www.alsa-project.org source. > I got the same problem : > I've tried several thing and everything load fine but I hear no sound > (after unmuting my card) or the alsamixer said me thing like "lsamixer: > failed to open mixer #0/#0: No ..." . > > Christophe ... > > PS: Who is Cameron Matheson ? He doesn't start the thread and suddenly > claims that an advice fixed the problem. > > On Wed, 23 May 2001 02:22:45 Noah L. Meyerhans wrote: > > On Wed, May 23, 2001 at 12:36:12AM +0200, vester wrote: > > > modprobe snd-seq-oss says: > > > /lib/modules/2.4.4/misc/snd-seq-oss.o: init_module: Device or resource > > > busy > > > Hint: insmor errors can be caused by incorrect module parameters, > > > including invalid IO or IRQ parameters > > > > > > alsamixer says: > > > > > > alsamixer: failed to open mixer #0/#0: No such file or directory > > > > Run the snddevices script that's included with the alsa-driver package. > > I believe that is mentioned in the INSTALL file. > > > > noah > > > > -- > > ___ > > | Web: http://web.morgul.net/~frodo/ > > | PGP Public Key: http://web.morgul.net/~frodo/mail.html > > > > > -- > Christophe Barbé > Software Engineer - [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Lineo France - Lineo High Availability Group > 42-46, rue Médéric - 92110 Clichy - France > phone (33).1.41.40.02.12 - fax (33).1.41.40.02.01 > http://www.lineo.com > > > -- > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >
Re: gnumeric
Jim McCloskey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >I have a stable (2.2r3) system and this is the wrong time for me to >think of upgrading to testing. It would be very useful, though, to >have a more up-to-date version of gnumeric than the one available in >stable (stable has 0.47; testing has 0.64). > >I don't use the whole gnome beast, but I do use two parts of >it---gnumeric and panel, so I have (at least) as much of the gnome >setup as is required to run them. > >I thought to try to compile the version of gnumeric that's in testing >and tried: > > apt-get --compile source gnumeric > >(after adding the needed line to sources.list and updating). > >The configuration script, however, exits early on with this message: > >configure: error: Could not find the gnomeConf.sh file that is generated >by gnome-libs install You certainly have whatever's required to run gnumeric, but that's not the same as what's required to compile it. Try this (lines wrapped for clarity): [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]$ apt-cache showsrc gnumeric Package: gnumeric Binary: gnumeric Version: 0.64-1.1 Priority: optional Section: math Maintainer: Vincent Renardias <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Build-Depends: libgnome-dev (>= 1.2.12-1), libxml-dev (>= 1.8.11-1), libglade-gnome0-dev (>= 0.16-2), libgal-dev (>= 0.7-2), libole2-dev (>= 0.1.7-0.1), python-dev, cygnus-stylesheets, gettext, autoconf, debhelper (>= 3.0) Architecture: any Standards-Version: 2.4.0.0 Format: 1.0 Directory: pool/main/g/gnumeric Files: 63aefa5c2080d0eea3927fa21c7955fc 1101 gnumeric_0.64-1.1.dsc 49673e41e314dacc54ea5aa74c0792ea 7133532 gnumeric_0.64.orig.tar.gz 0a2bdd73cb0ed338e605629f15be633b 5730 gnumeric_0.64-1.1.diff.gz The Build-Depends: line means that, in addition to the stuff that the build-essential package depends on, you also need that list of packages with the appropriate versions in order to build the package. The stable release doesn't have new enough versions of many of these packages, and doesn't have some of the others at all, so you may have problems getting the recent package to build. If you're lucky, it might be possible anyway, if you install as many of the build dependencies as you can. -- Colin Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: newbie problem
On Wed, 23 May 2001 11:28:34 +0300, Derya PALANCI wrote: > ** Hi all, > ** > ** I've treid everything i know or i've learned from this list and i couldnt > ** manage to make x server work... I have an i810 board ann 2.2 potato. as a > ** newbie i'm stuck... sometimes i say myself just give it up and install > ** mandrake or something (because i've heard its easier) but i dont want to > give > ** up. So my question is is there anybody/anywhere or anything that i can get > ** some help or information ? I've written to list twice and i couldnt just > ** search google and find answers... :(( > ** > ** Thanks in advance... > ** Hi! It's very useful for us readers, if you tell us which version of xfree you try to make running on your machine! If you like to use xfree3.x on potato you should install xviddetect (Opt X). Then you can use #anXious on console! A great configuration tool. And you can view the .xsession-errors file in your homedirectory, to find out why #startx makes trouble. If you copy your .xsession-errors file into this newsgroup and write about the version of xfree and whether you use potato or woody, the others have a better chance to give you useful suggestions for fixing your trouble! Timo
Re: First step with Mutt
"Karsten M. Self" wrote: >on Tue, May 22, 2001 at 11:17:22PM +, Victor ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: >> Could someone show me how I could configure e.g. exim to reach my ISP and my >> smtp and pop3 servers ? > >Have you installed exim? Walking through the postinst configuration >should set it up properly for you. If you need to reconfigure later: > >$ dpkg-reconfigure exim Since exim isn't configured with debconf, dpkg-reconfigure won't do anything. You need /usr/sbin/eximconfig instead. -- Colin Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Netscape and Flash problem
On 23 May 2001 11:18:59 +, Timeboy wrote: > On Tue, 22 May 2001 13:30:08 -0700, Karsten M. Self wrote: > > > ** My suggestion is to get a different browser (galeon, konqueror, or > > ** mozilla are strongly recommended), disable flash in it, and get a > > ** freestanding Flash viewer for the rare time when Flash is useful. One > > ** was mentioned here in the past day or so that's licensed under GPL. > > Thanx for your suggestions! I have installed konquerror but i thougt > netscape is the only way to use flash for the moment. I downloaded > flash from www.macromedia.com. It's the newest version for netscape > and there was no other flashplayers for linux, then this one for > netscape. Do you have any idea where i can get a flashplayer for > konqueror? And what do you mean whith a freestanding flash viewer? Konquerer (Mozilla too, I don't know about Opera) are plugin-compatible with netscape plugins. So you simply use the netscape plugin. I have no idea about freestanding players, but I guess a search on freshmeat would help. -- I did not vote for the Austrian government
Re: dif version of debian ??
Dan Christensen wrote: > > Hi All > > Im thinking about changen to debian from SuSE, so i started to get this list, > but now im more in dubt about the way debian works and who many dif version > ther are, i seen versions like 2.2.r2 2.2.r3 woody and the list go on. is > ther a place to get the info on the versions and what the dif is from version > to wersion, so i can finde the version best for me. > > Sorry if this Q has been up before, but im fearly new to Linux. > TIA Hi Dan, Suse has the same system. They constantly bring security-updates in their distri and from time to time they change from 7.1-0 to 7.1-1 (you'll only see this in YAST). 2.2r3 is the latest stable Debian and if you can get this go for it. If your vendor has only the 2.2r2 its easy to update with apt-get. As far as I have noticed no won this list woody is quite stable (I guess it is as stable as the actual Suse/RH). So if you want a distri with kernel 2.4.x and XFree86 4.0.x get woody. I have changed from Suse to Debian a few weeks ago and I am very happy. There are a few thing I'll have to figure out yet cause it is very different from Suse, but at least everything is working (not like Suse 7.1). Hope this will hep you a bit, Frank
Re: Netscape and Flash problem
on Wed, May 23, 2001 at 11:18:59AM +0200, Timeboy ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > On Tue, 22 May 2001 13:30:08 -0700, Karsten M. Self wrote: > > > ** My suggestion is to get a different browser (galeon, konqueror, or > > ** mozilla are strongly recommended), disable flash in it, and get a > > ** freestanding Flash viewer for the rare time when Flash is useful. One > > ** was mentioned here in the past day or so that's licensed under GPL. > > Thanx for your suggestions! I have installed konquerror but i thougt > netscape is the only way to use flash for the moment. I downloaded > flash from www.macromedia.com. It's the newest version for netscape > and there was no other flashplayers for linux, then this one for > netscape. Do you have any idea where i can get a flashplayer for > konqueror? And what do you mean whith a freestanding flash viewer? It was mentioned in an earlier response to a post of yours: Hey Timeboy, how about this? A GPL FlashPlayer: http://www.swift-tools.com/Flash/ I haven't tried it yet so i don't know how good or bad it works. Frank Cheers. -- Karsten M. Self http://kmself.home.netcom.com/ What part of "Gestalt" don't you understand? There is no K5 cabal http://gestalt-system.sourceforge.net/ http://www.kuro5hin.org Disclaimer: http://www.goldmark.org/jeff/stupid-disclaimers/ pgpLoBhBxGTSR.pgp Description: PGP signature
login problem!
Hi all, When I try login in my debian 2.4 as normal user, system say: login: jramon Sytem bootup in progress - please wait Password: *** Login incorrect I put the correct password, but it doesn't woork. However, I can login as root successfully. Where is the mistake? Thanks ---
fvwm2
Hi List Using sid in the most recent version with XFree4.0.3, I just switched to the good old fvwm I used to have in SuSE times (I never liked KDE and Gnome). 1.) .Xresources. Well, the problem I have is: when starting emacs from the fvwm-mennu, it starts up with default values (white background, standard geometry,...). When I start it from an xterm, it starts with the options I set in .Xdefaults and .Xresources (In fact, these two are hardlinked). So, why doesn't fvwm read these files? 2.) I use gdm as login manager (because of the "shutdown" option). When logging out of fvwm2, I don't get the login screen back, but only an empty root window with mouse pointer. Falling back to the login screen works with all other WM'S (e.g. enlightenment, gnome, kde). What could cause this? 3.1) the menus (general). I have poked around in the reades, and read a lot about "hook files". I did not quite understand how to use them. I understood it in so far, that it is not very smart to have a personal menu in my .fvwm directory, because the system-wide menu file is changed by the menu-generation script. I can add entrys to the sytem-wide menus by adding them to the several hook-files, but I cannot remove entrys, because I had to set up a personal menu and would lose the comfort of a script-updated menu when installing new programs. Now, what can I do to have custom menus? 3.2) the menus (icons). the fvwm menus use the same icons as enlightenment menus. the only difference is, that they are not scaled. e.g., the emacs icon is three times larger than the font height.this looks rather funny (or better: cridiculous) Is it possible to scale the images inside the menus, or do I have to change the icons themselves? 4.) the background and mouse pointer. The background (and the mouspointer) fvwm2 uses are just the same as in the gdm login screen. I tried to set a pixmap for the background, but xsetroot seems to accept only black/white xbm's. I remember from SuSE times that there was a grey tiled image. How can I set this (permanently). And how can I have a "normal" mouse pointer, not the X-shaped gdm thing? OK, these were quite a lot of questions, hopefully there are still soume fvwm users out there who can help me thanks joerg -- Did you know that if you play a Windows 2000 cd backwards, you will hear the voice of Satan? That's nothing! If you play it forward, it'll install Windows 2000.
Font Problems in Sid...
For a couple days now I've been experiencing alot of problems related to fonts in X. It must be related to recent upgrade of X or related font libraries. Certain font requents seem to be killing alot of applications with errors such as: X Error of failed request: BadValue (integer parameter out of range for operation) Major opcode of failed request: 45 (X_OpenFont) Value in failed request: 0x14d Serial number of failed request: 34 Current serial number in output stream: 35 This seems to hit the whole gamut of graphical applications, so many won't run. Anyone else seeing this? Anyone got a clue what/how to fix this? -- Eric G. Miller
Re: weird routing problem??
Duh...thanks for pointing out the obvious...I knew that it had to be something simple! I now remember changing ezekiel's gateway to bethel (.11) when I needed to temporarily take ariel down for a harddrive change. I hadn't used the laptop since that time, and I evidently forgot to change the gateway back. I'll bet that I'll find that my son changed the gateway on woody at the same time, so that he could continue to access the Internet while ariel was down. Thanks to all! On Wed, May 23, 2001 at 01:06:38AM -0700, Kevin Ross wrote: > > ezekiel:/home/thoover# route -n > > Kernel IP routing table > > Destination Gateway Genmask Flags Metric RefUse > Iface > > 192.168.1.0 0.0.0.0 255.255.255.0 U 0 00 > eth0 > > 0.0.0.0 192.168.1.110.0.0.0 UG0 00 > eth0 > > There's your problem. Your gateway should be 192.168.1.10, not > 192.168.1.11. -- Tom Hoover N5NTM <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> - http://www.hisword.net/tom - checkout HisWord(tm) Palmtop Bible at the above URL - --- finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] for PGP key
Re: secure X terminal? (was: 12 box network...)
On Tue, May 22, 2001 at 03:35:28PM -0700, Chris Majewski wrote: > On an only slightly related note, has anyone some experience with > secure X terminals? The i686 box on my desk is noisy. I would like to > replace it with an X terminal, but the X connection must be secure (I > type various root passwords and stuff into this box). I'm thinking > about a quiet diskless i486, running X over ssh. Anybody done this? My kids run lyx through ssh all the time, never heard them complain:) But then they have a AMD K6 500Mhz, and the server is a AMD K6 300Mhz. On the other hand, my wife used to play tetris over ssh on a 486 133Mhz, the server again that AMD K6 300Mhz. She didn't mind the performance degradation as it helped her maintain a good score:) I myself do it regurly and find things to get a little bumpier. Even text only apps (mutt) can detoriate, but for that to happen the server must be overloaded (as when I ssh into my IPS's login-server). -- groetjes, carel
Does Communicator 4.77 really support Unicode?
Hi, I heard that, (and at least I saw the Unicode UF-8 in the character set in the menu) Communicator 4.77 for Linux supports unicode. But I always got trouble when displaying the page using unicode character, dont know why? Is there anything I missed in my system? . Even the dynamic font doesn't work too. I ran Debian 2.2r3 but communicator I install from Netscape site, in /usr/lib/netscape and before I switch to debian I make a tar.bz2 of the netscape directory, and then extract it after that, dont know if there is something wrong with this. Any ideas is welcome Steve = S.KIEU _ http://messenger.yahoo.com.au - Yahoo! Messenger - Voice chat, mail alerts, stock quotes and favourite news and lots more!
Re: Debian-unstable?
Kristian Rink <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >(*) I am seeing that there are 'woody' - and 'sid' - trees on the Debian >ftp servers. So, what is the 'current' working 'unstable'-tree of Debian? sid - but just use the 'unstable' symlink, which points to the right place. >Actually, I am searching for a system that is ready for kernel 2.4.x and, >thanks to my graphics board, it also would be good to have XF 4.0.2 or >4.0.3 in it. You could also try the unofficial kernel 2.4 and XFree86 4 packages for potato. In /etc/apt/sources.list: deb http://people.debian.org/~bunk/debian potato main deb-src http://people.debian.org/~bunk/debian potato main deb http://people.debian.org/~cpbotha/ xf403_potato/i386/ deb http://people.debian.org/~cpbotha/ xf403_potato/all/ See http://www.fs.tum.de/~bunk/kernel-24.html, http://people.debian.org/~cpbotha/READ.THIS, and http://people.debian.org/~cpbotha/xf403_potato/READ.THIS for more information. Cheers, -- Colin Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Printer
I have already discussed my woes under "Two Problems". I have now changed from magicfilter to apsfilter. When I tried to print the test page, I received the message: /dev/lp0 : no such device. The device /lp0 appears in the /dev directory. It seems that the failure of the system to recognize my printer may be the problem. How do I resolve this? It is not the printer connection, for the printer works properly with Windows and worked with an older version of Debian.
dselect/apt-get: corrupted dependencies?
Hello! Last weekend I tried to update my system (stable/testing/unstable). After I resolved all dependency problems with dselect I called 'apt-get dselect-upgrade' to install all the packages. I got a lot of messages about unmet dependencies. All of them covered programs I have already installed in my system. Some say: package x: Conflicts: package y but is not installable or package x: Conflicts: package y version a but version b is to be installed Example: Reading Package Lists... Done Building Dependency Tree... Done Sorry, but the following packages have unmet dependencies: libgsm1: Conflicts: libgsm-dev but it is not installable libncurses4: Conflicts: ncurses but it is not installable transfig: xv-doc: Conflicts: xvdoc but it is not installable E: Error, pkgProblemResolver::Resolve generated breaks, this may be caused by held packages. E: Internal Error, problem resolver broke stuff Some errors occurred while unpacking. I'm going to configure the packages that were installed. This may result in duplicate errors or errors caused by missing dependencies. This is OK, only the errors above this message are important. Please fix them and run [I]nstall again Press enter to continue. Sometimes I get only one error, sometimes a lot of different errors. At the moment there are no packages set to hold. There are no dependency problems. And: I have another computer with Debian Linux with almost the same packages installed without any problems of this kind. I have the feeling that somehow somthing is broken. Is there a way to rebuild the package status from scratch? Thanks in advance Berthold Cogel
Re: root owner (or group) of lot of files in ~erik?
The Eric Comspiracy strikes again Sorry, couldn't resist Joel -- No, Gates always knew the Internet was going to be important, just as Oceania has always been at war with East Asia. ;)
Re: Debian-unstable?
Kristian Rink <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > (*) Seeing the fact that I am still having a slow yet expensive ( :( ) > internet connectivity, I guess it will not at all be possible to me to > download all the stuff directly to my machine so... hmmm if there's any > reader on that list who's located somewhere in Germany and who would be so > kind to provide me with a set of cd-r's of the Debian-current tree, please > contact me (also outside this list), would be *really* appreciated. :) Have a look at http://www.hinner.de/linux. Sebastian -- Manpower has to be paid, but how can you pay people without any income? We have to sell a product. [a quote from an email from someone at SuSE]
ppp through external isdn device
I can't get a successfull conection with an external isdn device, sometimes negotiation comes along, I get an IP address and DNS but am dropped down little after. This is aht the logs look like: May 23 14:01:33 devserver pppd[3341]: pppd 2.3.11 started by root, uid 0 May 23 14:01:34 devserver chat[3342]: abort on (BUSY) May 23 14:01:34 devserver chat[3342]: abort on (NO CARRIER) May 23 14:01:34 devserver chat[3342]: abort on (VOICE) May 23 14:01:34 devserver chat[3342]: abort on (NO DIALTONE) May 23 14:01:34 devserver chat[3342]: abort on (NO DIAL TONE) May 23 14:01:34 devserver chat[3342]: abort on (NO ANSWER) May 23 14:01:34 devserver chat[3342]: send (ATZ^M) May 23 14:01:34 devserver chat[3342]: expect (OK) May 23 14:01:34 devserver chat[3342]: ATZ^M^M May 23 14:01:34 devserver chat[3342]: OK May 23 14:01:34 devserver chat[3342]: -- got it May 23 14:01:34 devserver chat[3342]: send (ATDT963896000^M) May 23 14:01:34 devserver pppd[3341]: Serial connection established. May 23 14:01:34 devserver kernel: ppp_ioctl: set dbg flags to 3 May 23 14:01:34 devserver kernel: ppp_ioctl: set flags to 3 May 23 14:01:34 devserver pppd[3341]: Using interface ppp0 May 23 14:01:34 devserver pppd[3341]: Connect: ppp0 <--> /dev/ttyS0 May 23 14:01:34 devserver kernel: ppp_tty_ioctl: set xasyncmap May 23 14:01:34 devserver kernel: ppp_tty_ioctl: set xmit asyncmap May 23 14:01:34 devserver kernel: ppp_ioctl: set flags to 23 May 23 14:01:34 devserver kernel: ppp_ioctl: set mru to 5dc May 23 14:01:34 devserver kernel: ppp_tty_ioctl: set rcv asyncmap May 23 14:01:41 devserver kernel: ppp_tty_ioctl: set xmit asyncmap May 23 14:01:41 devserver kernel: ppp_ioctl: set flags to 23 May 23 14:01:41 devserver kernel: ppp_ioctl: set mru to 5dc May 23 14:01:41 devserver kernel: ppp_tty_ioctl: set rcv asyncmap 0 May 23 14:01:42 devserver kernel: ppp_ioctl: set flags to 23 May 23 14:01:42 devserver kernel: ppp_tty_ioctl: set xmit asyncmap May 23 14:01:42 devserver kernel: ppp_ioctl: set flags to 23 May 23 14:01:42 devserver kernel: ppp_ioctl: set mru to 5dc May 23 14:01:42 devserver kernel: ppp_tty_ioctl: set rcv asyncmap 0 May 23 14:01:44 devserver kernel: ppp_tty_ioctl: set xmit asyncmap May 23 14:01:44 devserver kernel: ppp_ioctl: set flags to 23 May 23 14:01:44 devserver kernel: ppp_ioctl: set mru to 5dc May 23 14:01:44 devserver kernel: ppp_tty_ioctl: set rcv asyncmap 0 May 23 14:01:50 devserver kernel: ppp_ioctl: set flags to 230040 May 23 14:01:51 devserver kernel: ppp_ioctl: set maxcid to 16 May 23 14:01:51 devserver kernel: ppp_ioctl: set flags to 23004c May 23 14:01:51 devserver pppd[3341]: local IP address 212.101.66.101 May 23 14:01:51 devserver pppd[3341]: remote IP address 212.101.64.3 May 23 14:01:51 devserver pppd[3341]: primary DNS address 212.101.64.34 May 23 14:01:51 devserver pppd[3341]: secondary DNS address 212.101.64.35 May 23 14:01:53 devserver kernel: ppp_ioctl: set flags to 23000c May 23 14:02:19 devserver pppd[3341]: Unsupported protocol 0xe1 received May 23 14:02:29 devserver pppd[3341]: Unsupported protocol 0xd465 received May 23 14:02:39 devserver pppd[3341]: Unsupported protocol 0x2c received May 23 14:02:39 devserver pppd[3341]: IPCP terminated by peer May 23 14:02:39 devserver kernel: ppp_ioctl: set flags to 230008 May 23 14:02:42 devserver kernel: ppp_ioctl: set flags to 230008 May 23 14:02:42 devserver kernel: ppp_tty_ioctl: set xmit asyncmap May 23 14:02:42 devserver kernel: ppp_ioctl: set flags to 230008 May 23 14:02:42 devserver kernel: ppp_ioctl: set mru to 5dc May 23 14:02:42 devserver kernel: ppp_tty_ioctl: set rcv asyncmap 0 May 23 14:02:42 devserver pppd[3341]: Connection terminated. May 23 14:02:42 devserver pppd[3341]: Connect time 1.1 minutes. May 23 14:02:42 devserver pppd[3341]: Sent 796 bytes, received 981 bytes. May 23 14:02:42 devserver kernel: ppp: channel ppp0 closing. May 23 14:02:42 devserver pppd[3341]: Hangup (SIGHUP) May 23 14:02:42 devserver pppd[3341]: Exit. -- __ Daniel de los Reyes S2-Selling Soluciones Valencia Spain e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Powered by Debian GNU-Linux 2.2r3 __
Re: Unkillable process
On Tue, May 22, 2001 at 11:35:37PM -0700, Erik Steffl wrote: | Oki DZ wrote: ... | > I see; so the memory that once was used, wouldn't be returned back to | > the OS, right? | | AFAIK the OS takes care of all/most of the resources - file are closed | (but not saved), memory is released etc... if you see frozen netscape, | before killing it check the free memory and check the memory after you | killed -9 netscape, lot of memory is freed (not sure if all) It has to free all the memory, if the kernel is worth anything. If it didn't free all the memory then you would run out after netscape crashed a few times. Just imagine what your uptime would be like then! Any decent kernel/system will take care to release all resources a process was using after it is no longer running. This includes memory, files, etc. (This isn't to say that the files, etc, will necessarily have the values you expect them to have; just that they will be released (closed for files) and other processes will be able to gain access) -D
Re: XDM or GNOME???
» Timeboy disse isso e eu digo aquilo: > On Wed, 23 May 2001 01:57:09 +0200, spider wrote: > > > ** 1. did i do the right thing??? i mean is it the right file? > > ** 2. there is this GNOME panel and icons on the desktop, but i > dont have an > > 1. My .xsession file: > > sawfish & > exec gnome-session > > 2. This is cause you have no windowmanager loaded! If you have the > newest gnome, version 1.4.x, you should use sawfish to have the best > support of windowmananger for gnome. If you use the gnome version of > potato you can use sawmill. You can use most other windowmanagers. > But sawmill or sawfish are the best i mean. In fact sawmill is the new name for sawfish. Both are the same window manager. Besides, you don't need to put a window manager in your .xsession file when you're using GNOME, it loads the window manager by itself. -- []'s, francisco m neto (a.k.a Ayanami-san) "Toke au kokoro ga, watashi o kowasu." -- Ayanami Rei
Re: XDM or GNOME???
On Wed, May 23, 2001 at 01:57:09AM +0200, spider wrote: > i installed potato on my machine, and i had XDM as the window manager. > i wanted to switch to GNOME, so i put: > exec gnome-session > in my .xinit file (/etc/X11/xinitrd/.xinit --- i hope its the right path...) > > 1. did i do the right thing??? i mean is it the right file? The file in which you should put your startup commands for your required window manager is the .xsession in your home directory ie the file /home/spider/.xsession it should contain the line 'exec gnome-session' (without the single quotes) ie do: $ echo exec gnome-session > ~/.xsession > 2. there is this GNOME panel and icons on the desktop, but i dont have an > arrow as a pointer but this black cross... to fix the black cross, and get a nice black pointer use xsetroot. You can use xsetroot while X is running. Just get an xterm and type: $ xsetroot -cursor_name left_ptr to get it automatically when you use X edit your .xsession file and add the following line before the exec line. ie your .xsession after editing could look like $ cat ~/.xsession xsetroot -cursor_name left_ptr exec gnome-session $ > AND- when i shut down X server there are those messages going, and the last > one is: > shutting down the xdm display manager > > im confused cos i thought i was running gnome dispaly manager you can use gnome with any display manager. A display manager is the program that enables you to have a graphical login on your monitor, (and even manage other displays). you also need to have only one display manager running at a time, so to use the gnome display manager, unistall xdm and install gdm $su Password: #apt-get remove xdm #apt-get install gdm Hope this helps Martin.
Re: Font Problems in Sid...
"Eric G. Miller" writes: > For a couple days now I've been experiencing alot of problems related to > fonts in X. It must be related to recent upgrade of X or related font > libraries. Certain font requents seem to be killing alot of > applications with errors such as: > > X Error of failed request: BadValue (integer parameter out of range for > operation) > Major opcode of failed request: 45 (X_OpenFont) > Value in failed request: 0x14d > Serial number of failed request: 34 > Current serial number in output stream: 35 > > This seems to hit the whole gamut of graphical applications, so many > won't run. Anyone else seeing this? Anyone got a clue what/how to fix > this? I had a bunch of font problems after an upgrade of unstable, which ultimately had to do with the fact that my /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 didn't know how to deal with the font server. I ended up adding Section "Files" FontPath "unix/localhost:7100" EndSection to the above config file and it all started working again. The problem is, what I know about X and fonts (and all matters graphical) would rattle in a nutshell. Still, it might be worth a try... Dan P.S. Anybody know a good introduction for beginners to this whole area (i.e., fonts, character sets, and graphical displays)?
stable - testing
Hi, I decided to investigate the move from "stable" to "testing". I thought it would be as simple as editing the sources to replace "stable" with "testing". I did that, and ran dselect to browse through the changes and found a couple of problems 1: Its plan to upgrade my stable system generates some dependency issues. It tells me that; lwrsed recommends libnss-lwres libnss-lwres does not appear to be available gnome-panel recommends gnome-applets (>=1.4.0-1) gnome-applets does not appear to be available Why are specified dependencies not available 2: I also pointed my "security.debian.org" entry to testing and it baulked at that completely. For security update for packages in testing, what should the security site entries read? What might I have got wrong? Keith -- +--+ | Keith O'Connell | "That which does not kill | | Maidstone, Kent (UK) | us, usually still hurts. | | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | That's just life, I'm afraid" | +--+
Increasing PPP Dialup connection timeout
Hello, For the last few days, I've been unable to connect to my ISP via dialup modem. Before this, I had no problem and it would connect very soon after dialing. Now, there appears to be line noise preventing it to connect at all. The problem is it connects in Windows fine. It takes a while (about 1 minute), but it connects. Of course, I prefer not to ask the ISP as I can almost guarentee they Linux is not one of their supported OS's. Anyway, it seems that in Linux, pon quits before it could really connect. So, instead of pon giving up in a minute or so, I'd like to increase that timeout. I believe if I could make the time it tries to connect longer, it would eventually be able to connect. I looked in /etc/ppp/options but didn't see anything obvious as well as looking in /usr/share/doc/ppp. How do you increase the initial connection timeout? TIA, Scott
Gnus mail with pop/smtp
I would like to use gnus as my mail-client since kmail cannot handle larger ammounts of mail especially well (i.e. it crashes). However, I have tried to search for an easy way to understanding and setting up gnus for use with multiple mail-addresses and pop/smtp-servers but found nothing. The 'tutorial' on my.gnus.org is by far not good enough for (at least) _me_ to understand anything. Any good resources? I probably need something more step-by-step stuff that focuses on mail and not news. -- Ole Sebastian Stein [EMAIL PROTECTED] ``It is a mistake to think you can solve any major problems with just potatoes.'' - Life, the universe and everything (Chapter 24), D. Adams
Re: Unkillable process
On Tue, May 22, 2001 at 10:45:46PM -0500, Petr [Dingo] Dvorak wrote: > > netscape is known doing this, 'kill -9 ' should get rid of them, > signal 9 is not maskable. But if the process is blocked on an uninterruptable system call, it will never return to receive the signal. This is a known Unix deadlock that happens rarely. Disk reads and writes are uninterruptable, I believe. Perhaps this person is experiencing I/O troubles. Mike -- Michael P. Soulier, TD12, SKY Tel: 613-765-4699 (ESN: 39-54699) Optical Networks, Nortel Networks, SDE Pegasus "...the word HACK is used as a verb to indicate a massive amount of nerd-like effort." -Harley Hahn, A Student's Guide to Unix Nortel Linux User's Group Ottawa: (internal) http://nlug.ca.nortel.com
Sendmail Security Violation?
Hi There Fellow Debianites, I got the following message from logcheck. May 23 06:13:15 c243491-a sm-mta[407]: f4NCCqk7000407: from=<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, size=2433, class=-30, nrcpts=1, msgid=<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, proto=ESMTP, daemon=MTA, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [127.0.0.1] Is there anyone who might know why this would be reported as a security violation? When I set up sendmail I said 'yes' to using dns. Perhaps at that moment it was unable to do a reverse lookup of the senders hostname? I dunno, just a guess. I am just a single desktop user at my own home, so no big deal. I am just curious. Thanks, Jimmy Richards binjOYNeIPLzD.bin Description: PGP Key 0x0062D7A7. pgpizF7RAxtBl.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: gnumeric
Jim McCloskey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > It would be very useful, though, to have a more up-to-date version > of gnumeric than the one available in stable (stable has 0.47; > testing has 0.64). Ximian (http://www.ximian.com/) is packaging GNOME for several GNU/Linux distributions, including Debian Potato; Gnumeric in Ximian GNOME is v0.64. hth, moritz -- Moritz Schulte <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://www.chaosdorf.de/moritz/ Debian/GNU supporter - http://www.debian.org/ http://www.gnu.org/ GPG fingerprint = 3A14 3923 15BE FD57 FC06 B501 0841 2D7B 6F98 4199
Re: stable - testing
KO> "stable" with "testing". I did that, and ran dselect to browse through KO> the changes and found a couple of problems KO> 1: Its plan to upgrade my stable system generates some dependency KO> issues. It tells me that; KO> lwrsed recommends libnss-lwres libnss-lwres does not appear to be KO> available KO> gnome-panel recommends gnome-applets (>=1.4.0-1) gnome-applets does KO> not appear to be available Add lines for "unstable" to your sources.lst as well. That is, you should have lines for "testing" first, then lines for "unstable", and then - for "stable". Packages that are not available in "testing" (f.e. gnome-applets) are in "unstable", and that should solve the problem -- Dmitry Astapov //ADEpt (mail-to: [EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: stable - testing
Did you do the "update list of available packages" step before trying to proceed with select or install. [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Keith O'Connell) writes: > Hi, > > I decided to investigate the move from "stable" to "testing". I thought > it would be as simple as editing the sources to replace "stable" with > "testing". I did that, and ran dselect to browse through the changes > and found a couple of problems > > 1: Its plan to upgrade my stable system generates some dependency >issues. It tells me that; > > lwrsed recommends libnss-lwres > libnss-lwres does not appear to be available > > gnome-panel recommends gnome-applets (>=1.4.0-1) > gnome-applets does not appear to be available > >Why are specified dependencies not available > > 2: I also pointed my "security.debian.org" entry to testing and it >baulked at that completely. For security update for packages in >testing, what should the security site entries read? > > What might I have got wrong? -- * For God so loved the world that He gave his only begotten Son, * * that whoever believes in Him should not perish...John 3:16 *
Re: login problem!
Sounds like you were running nis (yppasswd) at one time, but now are not. [EMAIL PROTECTED] (J. Ramón Fdez) writes: > Hi all, > When I try login in my debian 2.4 as normal user, system say: > > login: jramon > Sytem bootup in progress - please wait > > Password: *** > Login incorrect > > I put the correct password, but it doesn't woork. However, I can login as > root successfully. > > Where is the mistake? > -- * For God so loved the world that He gave his only begotten Son, * * that whoever believes in Him should not perish...John 3:16 *
Re: Printer
If there is no hardware port, you will get the message even if the dev file exists. I would try /dev/lp1 and see if that works. There have been some kernel changes over the years that affect how these devices are seen. [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Sidney Brooks) writes: > I have already discussed my woes under "Two Problems". I have now changed > from magicfilter to apsfilter. When I tried to print the test page, I > received the message: /dev/lp0 : no such device. The device /lp0 appears in > the /dev directory. It seems that the failure of the system to recognize my > printer may be the problem. How do I resolve this? > It is not the printer connection, for the printer works properly with > Windows and worked with an older version of Debian. > -- * For God so loved the world that He gave his only begotten Son, * * that whoever believes in Him should not perish...John 3:16 *
easy question
i know this sounds trivial, but i haven't figured it out...after installing and successfully loading ALSA drivers (as root) sound applications only work as root...what do i need to change to make sound accessible to normal users? anyone? thanks! -vester
Re: Unkillable process
On Wed, May 23, 2001 at 09:28:44AM +0100, Colin Watson wrote: > Since you're probably root at the time you're doing this sort of thing, > you'll find yourself with an unusable system. > > For that reason, I always advise people to forget that killall exists, > even if it's a handy short cut on Linux. I prefer to forget that Solaris exists :p
announce galeon-0.10.6 unofficial package
i all, I've made a debian package for galeon 0.10.6. This package is build against sid (aka unstable)(should certainly rebuild against other debian dists). It requires a patched version of mozilla 0.9. I've rebuild the kitame packages with this patch and you can apt-get it at the same url. Feedback is welcome. http://christophe.barbe.online.fr/debian/ Christophe
Re: Sendmail Security Violation?
Jimmy Richards wrote: > Hi There Fellow Debianites, > > I got the following message from logcheck. > > May 23 06:13:15 c243491-a sm-mta[407]: f4NCCqk7000407: > from=<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, size=2433, > class=-30, nrcpts=1, > msgid=<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, proto=ESMTP, daemon=MTA, > [EMAIL PROTECTED] [127.0.0.1] > > Is there anyone who might know why this would be reported as a security > violation? When I set up sendmail I said 'yes' to using dns. Perhaps at > that moment it was unable to do a reverse lookup of the senders > hostname? I dunno, just a guess. I am just a single desktop user at my > own home, so no big deal. I am just curious. > > Thanks, > > Jimmy Richards > logcheck will flag anything that is in /etc/logcheck/logcheck.violations, unless it is overridden in the logcheck.violations.ignore file See the BAD, in msgid=? Sendmail just happened to use those random characters, and logcheck triggered. That's what flagged it. I wouldn't go changing the logcheck.violations file though. Take a look at the rest of the files, and see if that helps you understand how logcheck works. The man pages are quite decent to learn from. mike dresser sysadmin, windsor machine & stamping
Re: Unkillable process
On Wed, 23 May 2001, Michael Soulier wrote: MS> > netscape is known doing this, 'kill -9 ' should get rid of them, MS> > signal 9 is not maskable. MS> MS> But if the process is blocked on an uninterruptable system call, it will MS> never return to receive the signal. This is a known Unix deadlock that happens MS> rarely. Disk reads and writes are uninterruptable, I believe. Perhaps this MS> person is experiencing I/O troubles. Well, if the nutscrape was hung on uninterruptable system call, the whole machine would be probably deadlocked, if the child doesn't want to die, kill the parent :), it will take the child down with it. Dingo. ).|.( '.`___'.` ' `(>~<)' ` -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-ooO-=(_)=-Ooo-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Petr [Dingo] Dvorak [EMAIL PROTECTED] Coder - Purple Dragon MUD pdragon.org port -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-[ 369D93 ]=- Oxymoron: Microsoft Works -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
Re: easy question
do a 'ls -l /dev/dsp' IIRC it should show the audio group so you need to add yourself in this group : # adduser yourlogin audio (or adduser audio yourlogin) Christophe On Wed, 23 May 2001 15:41:21 vester wrote: > > i know this sounds trivial, but i haven't figured it out...after > installing and successfully loading ALSA drivers (as root) sound > applications only work as root...what do i need to change to make sound > accessible to normal users? anyone? > > thanks! > > -vester > > > > > > -- > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > -- Christophe Barbé Software Engineer - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Lineo France - Lineo High Availability Group 42-46, rue Médéric - 92110 Clichy - France phone (33).1.41.40.02.12 - fax (33).1.41.40.02.01 http://www.lineo.com
Re: Printer
On Wed, May 23, 2001 at 03:44:12AM -0700, Sidney Brooks wrote: > I have already discussed my woes under "Two Problems". I have now changed > from magicfilter to apsfilter. When I tried to print the test page, I > received the message: /dev/lp0 : no such device. The device /lp0 appears in > the /dev directory. It seems that the failure of the system to recognize my > printer may be the problem. How do I resolve this? > It is not the printer connection, for the printer works properly with > Windows and worked with an older version of Debian. > > > -- > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] > What's "/etc/printcap" look like?! With cupsys, my printcap file was nullified as soon as I added cupsys-client. I'm running unstable, though... I would make sure that "/etc/printcap" had the printer in it, and then restart "lpd". Hope this helps...if not, sorry. :) Cheers. Eamon.
Re: Sendmail Security Violation?
On Wed, May 23, 2001 at 07:07:53AM -0600, Jimmy Richards wrote: > May 23 06:13:15 c243491-a sm-mta[407]: f4NCCqk7000407: > from=<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, size=2433, > class=-30, nrcpts=1, > msgid=<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, proto=ESMTP, daemon=MTA, > [EMAIL PROTECTED] [127.0.0.1] > > Is there anyone who might know why this would be reported as a security > violation? When I set up sendmail I said 'yes' to using dns. Perhaps at logcheck uses pattern matching to decide what entries to show... check in /etc/logcheck for the .violations file to see what it matches.
EIDE driver
hello. I have an enhanced ide motherboard with a new fujitsu 20 gbyte harddrive. When I try to enable dma on the drive the following is reported: /dev/hda: setting using_dma to 1 (on) HDIO_SET_DMA failed: Operation not permitted using_dma= 0 (off) Is this because the ide controler ( on board) doesnt support dma? How about to change the pio modes? when I try to change to pio mode 2 ( I know it is supported by both the drive and controelr) the following is reported: /dev/hda: attempting to set PIO mode to 2 HDIO_SET_PIO_MODE failed: Function not implemented can any body tell me why all these error occur? I have kernel 2.4.1 thank you
Re: easy question
On Wed, May 23, 2001 at 03:41:21PM +0200, vester wrote: > > i know this sounds trivial, but i haven't figured it out...after > installing and successfully loading ALSA drivers (as root) sound > applications only work as root...what do i need to change to make sound > accessible to normal users? anyone? Usually just add the user to the 'audio' group so they have permission to open the relevant device (see permissions in /dev).
Re: [users] Unkillable process
also sprach Andrei Ivanov (on Tue, 22 May 2001 10:31:26PM -0500): > scorpio 7314 0.0 3.8 2 4876 tty1 DMay10 0:00 > /usr/local/mozilla/mozilla-bin this is a straight-forward failure of the linux kernel. it's a dead process, it doesn't listen to anything anymore. there is no way you can remove it without a reboot. the process is in "uniterruptible sleep" state (implying it's doing some kind of i/o), but it's definitely not interested in handling signals (even SIGKILL, which you're the kernel isn't supposed to let you ignore). had plenty of them, never succeeded without a reboot. but what do you care? just leave them? they aren't eating anything away. martin; (greetings from the heart of the sun.) \ echo mailto: !#^."<*>"|tr "<*> mailto:"; [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- prepBut nI vrbLike adjHungarian! qWhat's artThe adjBig nProblem? -- alec flett @netscape
Re: Sendmail Security Violation?
Hi Mike D., Thanks for answering my question and satisfying my curiosity. I had noticed the 'BAD' in the message id, but didn't give it too much thought because I knew it was random characters. I have a look at the logcheck.violations file and maybe check out those manpages to get a better idea of how logcheck works like you were saying. Thanks Again, Jimmy Richards binabTHGuQEge.bin Description: PGP Key 0x0062D7A7.
Adding a kernel entry for grub (analogy to running lilo step?)
As a longtime LILO user, I'm a bit perplexed faced with the large amount of docs concerning grub. When I compiled a new kernel and wanted LILO to know about it, I'd edit /etc/lilo.conf and run lilo again to update the boot sector. Since grub knows about filesystems, do I need to do a similar update step? Or do I simply edit /boot/grub/menu.lst and reboot? I thought I'd ask before possibly rendering my system unbootable and resorting to a rescue disk. Thanks, Peter
Re: [users] Re: Unkillable process
also sprach Karsten M. Self (on Tue, 22 May 2001 11:29:18PM -0700): > No. Your memory's going to be released. But your files might be > scrambled. I would *not* 'kill -9' my mysqld server. one of the reasons why i wouldn't run mysql for any reason in the world! unless you don't need a true database backend. martin; (greetings from the heart of the sun.) \ echo mailto: !#^."<*>"|tr "<*> mailto:"; [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- --hughes mearns
Is potato compatible with ATA-100 disks ???
Is potato compatible with ATA-100 disks ??? (My kernel is 2.2pre18) -- MVH Andreas Berglund Företagsdata i Åhus AB Tel:044-289465 Fax:044-242550 http://www.fdab.se http://www.torget.fdab.se
PCI/ATI Radeon ?
Has anyone been able to use a PCI ATI Radeon card (as opposed to AGP)? I am using Woody and XFree 4.03. The docs at xfree.org say ATI Radeon chips are supported. I run xf86cfg and a gray screen appears in 1600x1200 resolution. There are no dialog boxes or configuration buttons, just a gray screen. I can exit by Ctr-Alt-Bkspace and a XF86Config.new is put in my ~ dir. If I then use startx I receive an error (EE) no device found and examining xfree86-0-log it indicates that only the AGP Radeon cards are supported. Lance
Re: Increasing PPP Dialup connection timeout
Scott writes: > Anyway, it seems that in Linux, pon quits before it could really > connect. So, instead of pon giving up in a minute or so, I'd like to > increase that timeout. Edit /etc/ppp/peers/provider. Replace connect "/usr/sbin/chat -v -f /etc/chatscripts/provider" with connect "/usr/sbin/chat -v -t120 -f /etc/chatscripts/provider" To make chat keep trying to connect for two minutes. If your connection is named something other than 'provider', edit the file with that name. -- John Hasler [EMAIL PROTECTED] (John Hasler) Dancing Horse Hill Elmwood, WI
creating a custom kernel without installing
I'm wanting to use mkboot to create a boot disk with a custom kernel so that I can use that kernel image to create a bootable cd. 1. How do I use make-kpkg to create a kernel image without actually installing it on my system? 2. How do I handle modules? 3. What is the easiest way to generate a basic root filesystem to burn onto the cd? -- Charles Lewis [EMAIL PROTECTED] 817-556-4720
Re: Adding a kernel entry for grub (analogy to running lilo step?)
On Wed, May 23, 2001 at 10:22:10AM -0400, Peter S Galbraith wrote: | | As a longtime LILO user, I'm a bit perplexed faced with the large | amount of docs concerning grub. When I compiled a new kernel and You found a large amount of docs? Lucky you ;-). I didn't think there was a whole lot of documentation (yet). | wanted LILO to know about it, I'd edit /etc/lilo.conf and run | lilo again to update the boot sector. | | Since grub knows about filesystems, do I need to do a similar | update step? Or do I simply edit /boot/grub/menu.lst and reboot? | | I thought I'd ask before possibly rendering my system unbootable | and resorting to a rescue disk. Here you get to experience the beauty of grub. All you need to do is edit /boot/grub/menu.lst. When you reboot you will see the new entry in the menu. Now suppose you either (a) forgot to update the menu.lst file or (b) made a mistake when you updated it. When you reboot simply enter the command line mode of grub and enter in the correct boot sequence commands. You will then be able to boot and fix the menu.lst file. Alternatively you can enter the "edit entry" mode and interactively edit the entry and then run it. This doesn't save your modifications in the menu.lst file, but it allows you to boot your system regardless of host the menu.lst was set up prior to boot. -D
Re: [users] Unkillable process
%% MaD dUCK <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: md> also sprach Andrei Ivanov (on Tue, 22 May 2001 10:31:26PM -0500): >> scorpio 7314 0.0 3.8 2 4876 tty1 DMay10 0:00 >> /usr/local/mozilla/mozilla-bin md> this is a straight-forward failure of the linux kernel. it's a dead md> process, it doesn't listen to anything anymore. It's possible, under severe error conditions, to get processes which won't respond to kill -9 on any kernel. The KILL signal may not be blocked by the process in user space, but that doesn't mean that it can't be blocked by the kernel in kernel space, and it often is. Simply whacking a process within the kernel at the instant you kill -9 would leave all sorts of resources unreleased, etc. etc. Remember that when you kill a user process the kernel cleans up all its memory, open file descriptors, etc. after it. If you kill a process within the kernel, who cleans up after that? Thus, the kernel doesn't allow processes to just disappear no matter what state they may be in within the kernel itself. -- --- Paul D. Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>HASMAT--HA Software Methods & Tools "Please remain calm...I may be mad, but I am a professional." --Mad Scientist --- These are my opinions---Nortel Networks takes no responsibility for them.
boot disk
hi anyone know where i can get a boot disk to install debian from -- Theo Bierman Customer Implementation Team UUNET S.A., a WorldCom Company Tel: +27 11 235-6621 Fax: +27 11 235-6501 E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Customer Service Centre: 08600 UUNET / 08600 88638 http://www.uunet.co.za
Re: Adding a kernel entry for grub (analogy to running lilo step?)
D-Man wrote: > On Wed, May 23, 2001 at 10:22:10AM -0400, Peter S Galbraith wrote: > | > | As a longtime LILO user, I'm a bit perplexed faced with the large > | amount of docs concerning grub. When I compiled a new kernel and > > You found a large amount of docs? Lucky you ;-). I didn't think > there was a whole lot of documentation (yet). Well, there's a lot of stuff to decipher. There should be a top-level section called: "So your distribution installed grub during installation and you want to know how to modify it?" :-) > | wanted LILO to know about it, I'd edit /etc/lilo.conf and run > | lilo again to update the boot sector. > | > | Since grub knows about filesystems, do I need to do a similar > | update step? Or do I simply edit /boot/grub/menu.lst and reboot? > | > | I thought I'd ask before possibly rendering my system unbootable > | and resorting to a rescue disk. > > Here you get to experience the beauty of grub. All you need to do is > edit /boot/grub/menu.lst. When you reboot you will see the new entry > in the menu. Thanks. > Now suppose you either (a) forgot to update the menu.lst file or (b) > made a mistake when you updated it. When you reboot simply enter the > command line mode of grub and enter in the correct boot sequence > commands. You will then be able to boot and fix the menu.lst file. > Alternatively you can enter the "edit entry" mode and interactively > edit the entry and then run it. This doesn't save your modifications > in the menu.lst file, but it allows you to boot your system regardless > of host the menu.lst was set up prior to boot. I'll have to experiemnt with this. Sounds pretty useful. Thanks again, Peter
Re: [users] Unkillable process
> also sprach Andrei Ivanov (on Tue, 22 May 2001 10:31:26PM -0500): > > scorpio 7314 0.0 3.8 2 4876 tty1 DMay10 0:00 > > /usr/local/mozilla/mozilla-bin > > this is a straight-forward failure of the linux kernel. it's a dead > process, it doesn't listen to anything anymore. there is no way you > can remove it without a reboot. the process is in "uniterruptible > sleep" state (implying it's doing some kind of i/o), but it's > definitely not interested in handling signals (even SIGKILL, which > you're the kernel isn't supposed to let you ignore). had plenty of > them, never succeeded without a reboot. but what do you care? just > leave them? they aren't eating anything away. Thanks. Problem is this: now that I have a dead mozilla process in the background, netscape doesnt want to run without manual interaction (when I run netscape as that user, I'll have to manually kill a process that pops up because netscape saw a mozilla process already "running"). It's not bad, but it gets kinda messy after a while. Andrei -- First there was Explorer... Then came Expedition. This summer Coming to a street near you.. Ford Exterminator. -- Andrei Ivanov http://arshes.dyndns.org [EMAIL PROTECTED] 12402354 --
Re: Unkillable process
On Tue, May 22, 2001 at 11:35:37PM -0700, Erik Steffl wrote: > doesn't take long). IIRC one reason an application is zombie is that its > parent waits for return value (which is sort of held by zombie, waitin > for parent to process the info or something like that). You've got it backwards. You get zombies when the parent _doesn't_ wait, so the kids just hang around forever, just in case the parent wants to come back and get their exit status someday. -- That's not gibberish... It's Linux. - Byers, The Lone Gunmen Geek Code 3.1: GCS d? s+: a- C++ UL++$ P++>+++ L+++> E- W--(++) N+ o+ !K w---$ O M- V? PS+ PE Y+ PGP t 5++ X+ R++ tv b+ DI D G e* h+ r y+
Re: Font Problems in Sid...
On Wed, May 23, 2001 at 08:33:08AM -0400, Daniel Katz wrote: > P.S. Anybody know a good introduction for beginners to this whole area > (i.e., fonts, character sets, and graphical displays)? check out 1. http://people.redhat.com/~mgalgoci/fonts/fixing.html 2. http://www.linuxdoc.org/HOWTO/mini/FDU/ Martin. $file /usr/bin/file /usr/bin/file: unknown file type
Re: Problems installing postfix
That worked! What's the reason for this, though? I mean, why does mutt expect a file that's not there? Thanks! Jen - Original Message - From: "ktb" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Tuesday, May 22, 2001 9:33 PM Subject: Re: Problems installing postfix > On Tue, May 22, 2001 at 09:21:10PM -0700, jennyw wrote: > > Does the default installation of postfix work out of the box? I tried apt-get install postfix and then apt-get install mutt. I run mutt and it says: > > > > /var/spool/mail/user: No such file or directory (errno = 2) > > This is a mutt thing. > Create a file in /var/spool/mail/ with your user name. Here are the > permissions mine has - > scab:/var/spool/mail# ll kent > -rw-rw1 kent mail0 May 22 22:01 kent
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Re: Debian Reinstall
Sean 'Shaleh' Perry wrote: > > On 09-May-2001 Ronan O'Sullivan wrote: > > Hi there, > >I am wondering is there anyway to save your current installed > >packages information and when you reinstall for apt or dselect to > >know what packages to install or remove to restore your system to > >the previous state? > > > > 2 steps: > > a) > # dpkg --get-selections|sed -e 's/deinstall$/purge/'|dpkg --set-selections > # apt-get dselect-upgrade # this removes any lingering packages in your list > > b) > # dpkg --get-selections|sed -e 's/hold$/install/' > package_list > # copy package_install /somewhere/safe > > Then, after the install: > > # dpkg --set-selections < package_list > # apt-get dselect-upgrade > > The sed call is to ensure that even packages on hold get stored properly. This is very clever and effective. I tried it today and it worked like a charm to get a good package list for backup and of course purge deinstalled packages as per a). BTW, How can I find why a package is on hold? Thanks again, Eric
IDE CD Burner
Hello World, Does anyone know a CD burner for IDE CD burnder drives? I know there is this "trick" to emulate an IDE burner as a SCSI, but I want a native IDE burner. Thanks in advance Andreas -- Andreas Tscharner [EMAIL PROTECTED] - "Programming today is a race between software engineers striving to build bigger and better idiot-proof programs, and the Universe trying to produce bigger and better idiots. So far, the Universe is winning." -- Rich Cook
Re: fvwm2
Joerg Johannes wrote: > > Hi List > > Using sid in the most recent version with XFree4.0.3, I just switched to > the good old fvwm I used to have in SuSE times (I never liked KDE and > Gnome). > > 1.) .Xresources. Well, the problem I have is: when starting emacs from > the fvwm-mennu, it starts up with default values (white background, > standard geometry,...). When I start it from an xterm, it starts with > the options I set in .Xdefaults and .Xresources (In fact, these two are > hardlinked). So, why doesn't fvwm read these files? it's not fvwm who would read these files. check the emacs menu, maybe you start different emacs from command line and from menus... > 2.) I use gdm as login manager (because of the "shutdown" option). When > logging out of fvwm2, I don't get the login screen back, but only an > empty root window with mouse pointer. Falling back to the login screen > works with all other WM'S (e.g. enlightenment, gnome, kde). What could > cause this? does the login ever appear? try to wait... I had similar problem with xdm, the problem was in using /dev/random instead of /dev/mem (or other fairly random file) > 3.1) the menus (general). I have poked around in the reades, and read a > lot about "hook files". I did not quite understand how to use them. I > understood it in so far, that it is not very smart to have a personal > menu in my .fvwm directory, because the system-wide menu file is changed > by the menu-generation script. I can add entrys to > the sytem-wide menus by adding them to the several hook-files, but I > cannot remove entrys, because I had to set up a personal menu and would > lose the comfort of a script-updated menu when installing new programs. > Now, what can I do to have custom menus? I'd suggest to work on the menu side, not fvwm side. you can add your menu items in /etc/menu directory (see /usr/lib/menu for examples, see menu package docs for more details). That's for system wide menu, not sure if this can be customized per user basis. Forthat you might have to figure out how hooks work... > 3.2) the menus (icons). the fvwm menus use the same icons as > enlightenment menus. the only difference is, that they are not scaled. > e.g., the emacs icon is three times larger than the font height.this > looks rather funny (or better: cridiculous) Is it possible to scale the > images inside the menus, or do I have to change the icons themselves? > > 4.) the background and mouse pointer. The background (and the > mouspointer) fvwm2 uses are just the same as in the gdm login screen. I > tried to set a pixmap for the background, but xsetroot seems to accept > only black/white xbm's. I remember from SuSE times that there was a grey > tiled image. How can I set this (permanently). And how can I have a > "normal" mouse pointer, not the X-shaped gdm thing? I like chbg for background changing. you can also run some programs (xearth etc...) on the root window... or use e.g. xv to set the root window image once. there are various files where you can put the program you choose - generally it's either ~/.xsession for personal setup or xdm/gdm/... startup files (in /etc/X11/xdm for xdm) for system wide setup. as far as the mouse cursor goes, the x shaped cursor IS normal (default) x root window cursor, it's not gdm thing (you can change it but I forgot how) erik
Re: boot disk
On Wed, May 23, 2001 at 05:27:23PM +0200, Theo Bierman wrote: > hi anyone know where i can get a boot disk to install debian from I would start with the installation instructions on the website - http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/#new-inst kent -- From seeing and seeing the seeing has become so exhausted First line of "The Panther" - R. M. Rilke
Re: root owner (or group) of lot of files in ~erik?
Joel Mayes wrote: > > The Eric Comspiracy strikes again -- quote 1. You must be an Eric You may match on first, last, or middle name(s). We're not orthography bigots, if you're an Erik or Erich or Eirik you are also eligible. We're not sexists either, so Ericas and Erikas are also welcome. We've even managed not to be speciesist -- one of the qualified members is a cat. -- quote I'll probably join, looks like I'm eligible, thanks for the pointer... erik
