changing timezone?

[Forrest English]

i found a file /etc/timezone, and i changed in from GMT-0, to GMT-8, but, date
still reports GMT.   is there any way to change this the timezone?  it's really
messing up my e-mail and when i got it.

thanks

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Re: Network Throughput

[tps]

On Thu, Jan 04, 2001 at 12:04:13AM +0100, Philipp Schulte wrote:
> On Wed, Jan 03, 2001 at 05:37:56PM -0500, Tim Sailer wrote: 
> 
> > I have a Debian box with 2 NICs. Both 100Meg, running in full duplex. This
> > machine is running as a ftp proxy. As part of the traffic going through the
> > box, some streams have 1000k window size for a certain reason. How do
> > I tune the NICs to handle the streams better? There are ways of doing this
> > on other OSs. Right now, the box only does about 1.8Mb when it should be 
> > doing
> > 80+Mb.
> 
> I guess you are mixing up MBit and MByte. 

And you jump to that conclusion how? Mb = M bit, not MB, M Byte. Even if I was
mixing them up, that still is dismal performance, and you have not provided
an answer. Thanks for your help...

Re: changing timezone?

[NiColAs Karageuzian]

Okay, this sounds like a recent problem i had, timezone doesn't set as you
described it in /etc/timezone untill you restart your system, that's how it
worked.


Anyway, if someone knows a better way, I'll be interressed to know ;-)

NiColAs

Dérooté ?
- Original Message -
From: "Forrest English" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Wednesday, January 03, 2001 11:06 AM
Subject: changing timezone?


> i found a file /etc/timezone, and i changed in from GMT-0, to GMT-8, but,
date
> still reports GMT.   is there any way to change this the timezone?  it's
really
> messing up my e-mail and when i got it.
>
> thanks
>
> --
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>
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> mean I'm going to stop breathing."
> -Doug Martsch
>
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Re: changing timezone?

[Forrest English]

rebooting doesn't do the trick for me.  


On Thu, 4 Jan 2001 07:11:54 +0100, NiColAs Karageuzian said:

> Okay, this sounds like a recent problem i had, timezone doesn't set as you
>  described it in /etc/timezone untill you restart your system, that's how it
>  worked.
>  
>  
>  Anyway, if someone knows a better way, I'll be interressed to know ;-)
>  
>  NiColAs
>  
>  Dérooté ?
>  - Original Message -
>  From: "Forrest English" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>  To: 
>  Sent: Wednesday, January 03, 2001 11:06 AM
>  Subject: changing timezone?
>  
>  
>  > i found a file /etc/timezone, and i changed in from GMT-0, to GMT-8, but,
>  date
>  > still reports GMT.   is there any way to change this the timezone?  it's
>  really
>  > messing up my e-mail and when i got it.
>  >
>  > thanks
>  >
>  > --
>  > Forrest English
>  > http://truffula.net
>  >
>  > "I don't like this air, but that doesn't
>  > mean I'm going to stop breathing."
>  > -Doug Martsch
>  >
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Re: Problems with kernel recompiling

[Eric G . Miller]

On Thu, Jan 04, 2001 at 12:56:58AM -0500, Vadim Kutsyy wrote:
> David Benfell wrote:
> > 
> > On Tue, Jan 02, 2001 at 01:40:36AM -0500, Vadim Kutsyy wrote:
> > >
> > > I want to recompile the kernel.  I config and compiling went without any
> > > problem (I am trying 2.2.18pre21 static on woody).  Hwever, when I am
> > > restrarting computer, Xserver starts, but gdm doesn't, so all what I am
> > > getting is gray screen whithout anything at all.
> > >
> > The only way this could be a kernel issue is if you misconfigured the
> > kernel and left out some modules that X (or gdm) needs.  I'm having a
> > hard time imagining that gdm would need any special kernel modules.
> > I can imagine, depending on your hardware (e.g. Intel i810e) that you
> > might have left out some modules that X would need.  But X starts; I
> > think that rules this possibility out.
> 
> Well, I not that sure.  I started Linux without X, and then I tryied to
> start x (startx).  Here is result:
> 
> -
> _XSERVTransSocketOpen: socket() failed for local
> _XSERVTransSocketOpenCOTSServer: Unable to open socket for local
> _XSERVTransOpen: transport open failed for local/kutsyy:0
> _XSERVTransMakeAllCOTSServerListeners: failed to open listener for local
> _X11TransSocketOpen: socket() failed for local
> _X11TransSocketOpenCOTSClient: Unable to open socket for local
> _X11TransOpen: transport open failed for local/kutsyy:0

You didn't forget to compile in UNIX socket support?  I can hardly think
of a reason not to (embedded system?).  Not having UNIX sockets will
break many programs.

The other possibility is an error in permissions for /tmp, though I
suspect the first.

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Re: Package Config Diffs

[Eric G . Miller]

On Thu, Jan 04, 2001 at 12:02:15AM -0500, Fredrick Paul Eisele wrote:
> For system administration...  In order to reconstruct a system...  It
> is easy/rivial to get a list of all the instaned packages on a
> machine.  But, getting a list of the modified configuration files
> (presuming any modified file is a config file of some type) and the
> differences is a little harder.  I am thinging of extracting all files
> from a package into a scratch directory and then comparing against
> what is actually installed, looping over all installed packages.  This
> seems a bit excessive, any suggestions?

It's my understanding config files have and md5sum which is used to
determine whether they should be updated or the user should be prompted.
These appear to live in /var/lib/dpkg/info/.md5sums.  So I
guess, you just need to extract the appropriate md5sum from each of
these files and compare it to the md5sum of whatever file you're
interested in.

Each .md5sums file seems to have the format:

 

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Re: changing timezone?

[Oliver Elphick]

Forrest English wrote:
  >rebooting doesn't do the trick for me.   

tzconfig


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Re: changing timezone?

[Eric G . Miller]

Use the "tzconfig" program.  There's more than one file that needs to be
updated.  Reboot shouldn't be required.

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XF86Config for X version4.xx

[Timothy Walsh]

Hi all,

Is there a preferred Debian tool (if any) for configuring
the XF86Config file? I read that XF86Setup has been
abandoned upstream and doesnt support version 4 synatax.

Cheers, 

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Re: font-lock, xemacs, latex

[Johann Spies]

On Wed, Jan 03, 2001 at 10:06:49AM -0500, Giulio Morgan wrote:

> At some point during upgrades, I have lost font-locking capability
> for LaTeX

Try the following:

Select (in Xemacs) Options, customize, apropos, font-lock

and activate font-lock-mode and font-lock-maximum-decoration

Set it and save it (Options, save options).  Your .emacs-file should
contain something like this:

(custom-set-faces)
(custom-set-variables
 '(font-lock-maximum-decoration t)
 '(font-lock-mode t nil (font-lock)))


Regards.

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libtool broken (was Re: Gcc broken. How to fix?)

[Erik de Castro Lopo]

matthschulz wrote:
> 
> What about removing libtool with --force and then installing it back?

Nope. No change.

[EMAIL PROTECTED] > dpkg --purge libtool
(Reading database ... 44436 files and directories currently installed.)
Removing libtool ...
dpkg - warning: while removing libtool, directory `/usr/share/libtool' not 
empty so not removed.

[EMAIL PROTECTED] > ls /usr/share/libtool
total 8
drwxr-xr-x2 root root 4096 Jan  4 18:09 .
drwxr-xr-x   83 root root 4096 Jan  4 05:57 ..
-rw-r--r--1 root root0 Jan  4 18:06 config.log

[EMAIL PROTECTED] > apt-get install libtool
Reading Package Lists... Done
Building Dependency Tree... Done
The following NEW packages will be installed:
  libtool 
0 packages upgraded, 1 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
Need to get 0B/177kB of archives. After unpacking 774kB will be used.
Selecting previously deselected package libtool.
(Reading database ... 44407 files and directories currently installed.)
Unpacking libtool (from .../libtool_1.3.3-9.1_all.deb) ...
Setting up libtool (1.3.3-9.1) ...
Configuring libtool...
Configuration name missing.
Usage: ./config.sub CPU-MFR-OPSYS
or ./config.sub ALIAS
where ALIAS is a recognized configuration type.
dpkg: error processing libtool (--configure):
 subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 1
Errors were encountered while processing:
 libtool
E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)


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Re: Network Throughput

[Philipp Schulte]

On Thu, Jan 04, 2001 at 01:07:23AM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 

> On Thu, Jan 04, 2001 at 12:04:13AM +0100, Philipp Schulte wrote:
> > On Wed, Jan 03, 2001 at 05:37:56PM -0500, Tim Sailer wrote: 
> > 
> > > I have a Debian box with 2 NICs. Both 100Meg, running in full duplex. This
> > > machine is running as a ftp proxy. As part of the traffic going through 
> > > the
> > > box, some streams have 1000k window size for a certain reason. How do
> > > I tune the NICs to handle the streams better? There are ways of doing this
> > > on other OSs. Right now, the box only does about 1.8Mb when it should be 
> > > doing
> > > 80+Mb.
> > 
> > I guess you are mixing up MBit and MByte. 
> 
> And you jump to that conclusion how? Mb = M bit, not MB, M Byte. Even if I was
> mixing them up, that still is dismal performance, and you have not provided
> an answer. Thanks for your help...

OK, if you want it to do "80+ Mbit" that would be 10MByte. This value
is possible but I have never seen it - there are several potential
bottlenecks like your HD.
My brother and me tested the throughput once in this way:
Create a ramdisk with a big file (need much memory for this) and wget
it with the other system which sends it right to /dev/null so nothing
has to be written on the HD.
IIRC correctly we got about 7MByte/sec under these special
circumstances.
Phil

Video 4 Linux old in Kernerl 2.2.17?

[h . buerger]

This eMail was already checked for viruses by TrendMicro InterScan!!!
Hi,

i have problems with my haupauge tv card, it trashes the text mode screen.
I got the info that the driver in the kernel is old, where can i get a 
deb-package with
an actual driver?

thanks
Haug

Re: Is there a nice graphical front end available for gpg or pgp ?

[Ethan Benson]

On Wed, Jan 03, 2001 at 09:34:04PM +, Sam Vilain wrote:
> > I am looking for a graphical front end for gpg and or pgp. Possibly qt or 
> > gtk 
> > based. Is geheimnis packaged already ?
> 
> Check out the GnuPG home page at http://www.gnupg.org/, it has a list of many 
> front-ends available.  Then just use the "search" function in dselect with 
> the name of the package, if you're lucky it'll exist.   mode="shameless">Until Debian has a functionally structured package 
> repository there isn't really a better solution.
> 

there is also apt-cache search

apt-cache search gpg

please wrap your lines at something reasonable say 72 char.  

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Re: Imac CD install problem

[Ethan Benson]

On Wed, Jan 03, 2001 at 06:37:57PM -0700, Nate Duehr wrote:
> You may want to subscribe to the debian-powerpc (or is it debian-ppc?)
> mailing list and ask questions there.  You're much more likely to hit
> someone who's knowledgeable about the iMac platform there.

yes indeed, though his problem looks to be a generic install issue
rather then a archetecture specific one.

> I've been (very very slowly) gathering some information about how to
> load Debian on my new iMac DV SE, and have run across a number of issues
> that the folks there have been very helpful in trying to track down.
> Linux on the PPC platform is a whole new ballgame for me, but it's fun.

its certainly rather different, i have some info on the boot setup on
my page (see my .sig)  www.penguinppc.org is also a good place for
distro neutral information.  

> If you want "seamless" or relatively easy Linux installations on PPC,
> the recent reviews of the LinuxPPC distribution have been encouraging.

don't believe them.  LinuxPPC is the most broken GNU/Linux
distribution ever made, and frankly its an embarrassment to the entire
movement.  sorry but i have spent too much time on irc helping people
fix rediculous problems you should (and never do) see in any other
distro.  

> Personally, I will probably continue fighting through trying to get
> Debian installed.

do so, its WELL worth the effort.  

> I haven't really gotten very excited about OSX yet, but I do spend some
> time in that strange environment these days messing around with it and
> seeing what I can break on purpose.  I don't think I can stomach their
> licensing and strange way they're doing devel on Darwin at Apple and
> keeping some of it closed-source, and some open-source.  Very odd.

OSX is an odd beast, die hard mac users will hate it because it has
unix underneath and its not totally hidden (and won't be, i don't
think) *nix users will hate it because the *nix layer is limited and
broken.  people who only know a dabble of *nix and pretty much do
everything in windows or macos without any religious attachments to
either paradigm will probably like OSX alot, it has just enough *nix
for occasional handy uses and the GUI is about even with
Windows/GNOME/KDE. 

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Re: Internet for normal users & /usr/local

[Ethan Benson]

On Thu, Jan 04, 2001 at 12:39:35AM -0200, Hammurabi Mendes wrote:
> I am doing some configuration now, and installing new programs, but I
> would like not to desorganize the system or compromise the system
> security, and I have 2 questions:
> 
> Is /usr/local the right place to put executables that are not controlled
> by packages?

yes, /usr/local is your playground to do with whatever you want.  the
packaging system is forbidden to touch it other then creating empty
directories for your convenience (but will not fail if they can't for
whatever reason) 

> If some user is supposed to access internet, is secure add the user on
> the "dip" group? (Or, was this group specially created for this
> purpose?)

group dip is for users who should be allowed to bring up the PPP
internet connection yes.  it is safe to add users to this group.  all
they will be able to do is run `pon' to bring up the connection and
`poff' to bring it down.  (if they were the one to bring it up)

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Re: Problems with kernel recompiling

[Vadim Kutsyy]

"Eric G . Miller" wrote:
> You didn't forget to compile in UNIX socket support?  I can hardly think
> of a reason not to (embedded system?).  Not having UNIX sockets will
> break many programs.
> 

Well, I did  (don't ask why).  Now it is working.

One more problem.  I am getting an error:

ipchains: protocol not availiable!

What did I forgot here?

Thanks.
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compiling X apps (Woody)

[Shaun Jackman]

What packages are need to compile an X app?
after a ./configure I get...
checking for X... configure: error: Can't find X includes. Please check your 
installation and add the correct paths!

Thanks,
Shaun

apt-get error "kdebase-crypto has no available version"

[Shaun Jackman]

I get this error after an "apt-get install kdebase-crypto"...
Package kdebase-crypto has no available version, but exists in the database.
This typically means that the package was mentioned in a dependency and
never uploaded, has been obsoleted or is not available with the contents
of sources.list
However the following packages replace it:
  kdebase
E: Package kdebase-crypto has no installation candidate   

my sources.list is...
deb ftp://ftp.ca.debian.org/pub/debian woody main non-free contrib
deb ftp://ftp.ca.debian.org/debian-non-US woody/non-US main non-free contrib
deb-src ftp://ftp.ca.debian.org/pub/debian woody main non-free contrib
deb ftp://ftp.freesoftware.com/pub/linux/debian/ woody main non-free contrib
deb-src ftp://ftp.freesoftware.com/pub/linux/debian/ woody main non-free 
contrib

Thanks,
Shaun

Re: [slightly OT] book recomendations?

[kmself]

on Wed, Jan 03, 2001 at 07:47:15PM -0700, John Galt ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> On Wed, 3 Jan 2001, Xucaen wrote:
> 
> > Hi all,, there have been some mentions of books
> > on the list, but nothing definitive...
> > can anyone recomend a good system
> > administration/network administration book?
> > just curious to hear people's opinions.
> > thanks!
> 
> apt-get install ldp-nag;apt-get install ldp-sag :)

Highly recommended, both.

Note, however, that the currenty installed version of the NAG is v. 1.0.
The second edition of the book is out in print, and at the O'Reilly
website.  Any reason it's not included with Debian?  License?

Anyway, V2 is quite good, and if you don't want the processed tree
carcass version, you can point your peepers at:

http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/linag2/book/index.html

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Re: Memory leakage

[kmself]

on Wed, Jan 03, 2001 at 09:36:38PM -0500, D-Man ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> On Wed, Jan 03, 2001 at 06:05:13PM -0800, kmself@ix.netcom.com wrote:
>  
> > 
> > $ fuser -v bigfile  # show process(es) using bigfile
> > $ fuser -vk bigfile # kill process(es) using bigfile
> > $ fuser -v bigfile  # verify the kill worked
> > $ cat /dev/null > bigfile   # "empty" the file
> > $ rm bigfile
> > 
> > In general, you want to *empty* a file (cat /dev/null > file) before you
> > delete it, and you don't want to delete an open file.
> > 
> 
> Why would you cat /dev/null into the file before removing it?

  - In the event something filled (or was still filling) the file.

  - In the event I didn't get the kills right.  I've now got an
empty(er) disk to try to set things right in, and don't have a
large, but unreachable, quantity of data to deal with.

  - In the event the file was larger than 2 GB (under some circumstances
this leads to problems, IIRC).

  - To speed up the rm -- don't as me why, but I've observed this in the
past.

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Re: debian on a red hat system

[kmself]

on Wed, Jan 03, 2001 at 07:54:19PM -0700, John Galt ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> On Wed, 3 Jan 2001, Veit Waltemath wrote:
> 
> > On Wed, Jan 03, 2001 at 07:49:06PM -, Pat Woolley wrote:
> > > Hi
> > > I use mandrake 7 and I am very happy with it.  However I would
> > > like to be able to install debian packages on my system. As I see
> > > it there are two ways possible. Convert debian to rpm or install
> > > dselect on my system.
> > > 
> > > Can you help with one or both of these solutions please.
> > > 
> > > Regards Pat Woolley
> > > 
> > Why do you want install debian packages on a rpm-system. The sense
> > escapes me.
> 
> If you can't be helpful, be silent.

IMO the question is valid.  Many times a new or inexperienced user of a
system (be it Debian or something utterly different) asks a question
more in ignorance of what methods are available for accomplishing a task
than out of a clear understanding of ultimate goals.  Asking for intent
is IMO justified.

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Re: X in startup

[kmself]

on Thu, Jan 04, 2001 at 11:20:47AM +0530, N. Raghavendra ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) 
wrote:
> On Wed, Jan 03, 2001 at 09:23:30AM -0800, Xucaen wrote:
> 
> > does this disable X? what if you still want to run X from the
> > command line using startx?
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > after booting up press  F1 to go into a console
> > > terminal.  logon as root.  cd /etc/rc2.d rm S??xdm  # or just
> > > move it, if you dont want to delete it  shutdown -r now
> > > worked for me this morning, anyway.
> 
> Hi,
> 
> What I have been doing to stop /etc/init.d/ scripts (like xdm)
> from being executed at bootup is to put the line
>   exit 0
> at the top of the file (as the first uncommented line). This
> makes the script neatly exit without doing anything.

I've been known to do this, but I prefer to add an echo to indicate that
this is the case.  Scripts which silently fail can be annoying.  E.g.:

echo "Not starting foo"; exit 0

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Re: XF86Config for X version4.xx

[Frank Barknecht]

Timothy Walsh hat gesagt: // Timothy Walsh wrote:

> Is there a preferred Debian tool (if any) for configuring
> the XF86Config file? I read that XF86Setup has been
> abandoned upstream and doesnt support version 4 synatax.

I took xf86cfg from xbase-clients for this task, but you can even use
XFree86 itself for this. Just run "XFree86 -configure"!

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Re: upgrading the kernel to 2.4

[Mario Olimpio de Menezes]

On Wed, 3 Jan 2001, Colin Watson wrote:

> Mario Olimpio de Menezes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >On Wed, 3 Jan 2001, Phil Brutsche wrote:
> >> A long time ago, in a galaxy far, far way, someone said...
> >> > it didn't help me! version in unstable(testing) is still 2.3.11 and 2.4
> >> > kernels need at least 2.3.18 (from Changes).
> >>
> >> unstable != testing
> >
> >even with this C expr, last time I checked unstable|testing there was no
> >2.3.X | X >= 18 as required by 2.4.whatever kernels.
> >(last time == today morning)
> >
> >I had to grab it (2.3.23) from pool!
>
> Correct. That's where new unstable and testing packages now go. See the
> debian-devel-announce archives.

I only subscribe to debian-user :-(

but I learned it now

[]s,
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IPEN-CNEN/SP is the Lord's purpose that prevails"
http://curiango.ipen.br/~mario Prov. 19.21

Re: howto tell cron run last day of month

[Ted Harding]

On 03-Jan-01 Nate Duehr wrote:
> Would midnight on the 1st work?  Just a thought.
> 
> There's no situations I can think of where the first of the month
> doesn't exist in most locales, since daylight savings changes
> officially
> at 2 AM in places that do that.
> 
> (like here... grrr)
> 
> On Tue, Oct 17, 2000 at 06:12:21PM +0200, Jaume Teixi wrote:
>> I run a cron script 27-31
>> then inside the script i need to check if it this last day of month
>> 
>> how to check this ?
>> 
>> thanks,
>> jaume.

Try this for size:

  # `cal 1 2001 | grep -v '[A-Z]' | grep '[0-9]$' \
 | awk '{print "export LAST="$(NF)}'`

  # echo $LAST
  31

  # `cal 2 2001 | grep -v '[A-Z]' | grep '[0-9]$' \
| awk '{print "export LAST="$(NF)}'`

  # echo $LAST
  28

You can get the current day DD, the current month MM
and the current year  from the date command:

  # DD=`date +%d` ; echo $DD 
  04
  # MM=`date +%m` ; echo $MM
  01
  # =`date +%Y` ; echo $
  2001

  # `cal $MM $ | grep -v '[A-Z]' | grep '[0-9]$' \
| awk '{print "export LAST="$(NF)}'`
  # echo $LAST
  31

Then you can carry out whatever comparison you want between
$DD and $LAST (e.g. if there's something which has to be
done 4 days before the end of the month ... ).

I once used to get paid on "the Friday preceding the last
Saturday of the month" -- now that's the _next_ exercise
for the reader!

Ted.


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nis (yp) and large group files.

[Jeff Green]

We use nis to distribute access rights across a group of servers we use
for central functions. The majority of files (around 1,000,000) belong
to a central user and we need a lot of people to be able to modify these
files, this means a large group file. If more than a certain number (or
it may be a character limit on the line I suppose) of users are added to
the group all is well on the ypserver machine but the clients just lose
all info on the group concerned, without any warning. At which point the
website breaks and people yell at me!
Any clues on either what is the limit, can it be extended or an
alternative system to yp?
Thanks a lot
Jeff Green

Re: debian on a red hat system

[Richard Taylor]

[EMAIL PROTECTED],
>If you can't be helpful, be silent.
>On Wed, 3 Jan 2001, Veit Waltemath wrote:
>> On Wed, Jan 03, 2001 at 07:49:06PM -, Pat Woolley wrote:

>> > I use mandrake 7 and I am very happy with it.  However I
} would like to be able to install debian packages on my system
} As I see it there are two ways possible. Convert debian to rpm
} or install dselect on my system.
>> > Can you help with one or both of these solutions please.
>> > Regards Pat Woolley
>> > 
>> Why do you want install debian packages on a rpm-system. The sense escapes 
>> me.

 It's part of switching over to 1oo% Debian. A worthy cause in anybody's book.
 I'm doing the same with Corel... {'course it's a tiny bit easier}

 With Mandrake, you've got to change some paths though... move a few programs
 around, etc...

 Personally, I'd install dselect... or, just, reinstall with Debian and
 add the rpms that you need. To me, that seems a little easier. Not knowing
 how much you know about linux or how easily you can do the transition...
 I can only say how I'd go about it. {:} Which is probably the hard way}

XDM startup screen

[Koen Colpaert]

Howdy,

After some experimenting with Suse, Slackware and Mandrake I turned to
Debian. After installing and configuring X I was presented with a grey
xdm-display as a loginscreen. I was wondering if there aren't any better
background images available and where can I find them.

TIA
Koen
--- On the requirements it said: Windows 95 or better - so I installed
Linux ---

FIXED : Re: libtool broken (was Re: Gcc broken. How to fix?)

[Erik de Castro Lopo]

Hi all,

The only way I could get libtool working again, was to install it from
source (bypassing dpkg) and then with that working libtool reinstallation
went fine.

This suggests that libtool is recursively dependant on itself. This can
be proved as follows:

[EMAIL PROTECTED] > apt-get remove libtool
Reading Package Lists... Done
Building Dependency Tree... Done
The following packages will be REMOVED:
  libtool 
0 packages upgraded, 0 newly installed, 1 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
Need to get 0B of archives. After unpacking 774kB will be freed.
Do you want to continue? [Y/n] y
(Reading database ... 44369 files and directories currently installed.)
Removing libtool ...

[EMAIL PROTECTED] > apt-get install libtool
Reading Package Lists... Done
Building Dependency Tree... Done
The following NEW packages will be installed:
  libtool 
0 packages upgraded, 1 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
Need to get 0B/177kB of archives. After unpacking 774kB will be used.
Selecting previously deselected package libtool.
(Reading database ... 44340 files and directories currently installed.)
Unpacking libtool (from .../libtool_1.3.3-9.1_all.deb) ...
Setting up libtool (1.3.3-9.1) ...
Configuring libtool...
Configuration name missing.
Usage: ./config.sub CPU-MFR-OPSYS
or ./config.sub ALIAS
where ALIAS is a recognized configuration type.
dpkg: error processing libtool (--configure):
 subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 1
Errors were encountered while processing:
 libtool
E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)

I've submitted a bug report requesting that libtool needs to fixed so 
that it can be removed and re-installed safely.

Erik
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Re: XDM startup screen

[Antonio Rodriguez]

xbanner

Koen Colpaert wrote:
> 
> Howdy,
> 
> After some experimenting with Suse, Slackware and Mandrake I turned to
> Debian. After installing and configuring X I was presented with a grey
> xdm-display as a loginscreen. I was wondering if there aren't any better
> background images available and where can I find them.
> 
> TIA
> Koen
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> Linux ---
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Restarting Apache as non-root

[Sven Burgener]

Hello all

[please CC me on replies]

Is there a way to restart Apache gracefully as a non-root user?

I don't want to write a wrapper suid program and I don't want to execute 
the shell script (doing the graceful restart) as root.

I mean, Apache is already up and running as root (father process), so I 
fail to see why a simple 'graceful' shouldn't work as non-root.

Help appreciated,
Sven

Re: docbook and pagesize

[Norman Walsh]

/ Bob Bernstein <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> was heard to say:
| There is a lot of info in the docbook stylesheet docs but you kind of have
| to eke it out. Norm gives an example of the driver file in his DocBook book
| which is available online (somewhere). 

  http://www.docbook.org/tdg/html/ch04.html#AEN5447

Or, more generally, most of Chapter 4.

| The docbook-apps list is a good place
| to get an answer, often from Norm himself. Also debian-sgml.

The docbook-apps list (docbook-apps@lists.oasis-open.org) is the right
place for tools-related DocBook questions. (The docbook@lists.oasis-open.org
list is for questions about DocBook markup.)

Be seeing you,
  norm

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http://nwalsh.com/| of rubbish, and yet go about his daily
  | work in a rational and cheerful
  | manner.--Norman Douglas

Re: apt-get error "kdebase-crypto has no available version"

[Colin Watson]

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>I get this error after an "apt-get install kdebase-crypto"...
>Package kdebase-crypto has no available version, but exists in the database.
>This typically means that the package was mentioned in a dependency and
>never uploaded, has been obsoleted or is not available with the contents
>of sources.list
>However the following packages replace it:
>  kdebase
>E: Package kdebase-crypto has no installation candidate   
>
>my sources.list is...
>deb ftp://ftp.ca.debian.org/pub/debian woody main non-free contrib
>deb ftp://ftp.ca.debian.org/debian-non-US woody/non-US main non-free contrib

kdebase isn't in the testing distribution yet, which is what woody is
now. If you mean to be tracking unstable, you'll need to change 'woody'
to 'unstable' and update.

Cheers,

-- 
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Re: nis (yp) and large group files.

[Jonathan D. Proulx]

Hi,

I'm not sure what the limit is (I suspect 256 characters).  We had a
similar issue with our everybody net group (all the machines on the
net work). I think the way around this is a hurd of sub groups which
are within the limit and the master group referencing the subgroups
rather than the members directly.

we've since removed this group, so I can't verify this, and our NIS is
run on Solaris machines so YMMV...

-Jon

back to stable

[Knud Sørensen]

Hi I have a problem.

I usually run stable, but some hours ago i needed a db front-end.
So, I change to unstable and did.
apt-get update 
apt-get install gnome-db

apt-get got over 40 packets to install including X windows 4.0

The installation failed and now I am left with a broken system.

1) So, How do I return to stable ??

2) Is there any database front-end which run on stable and support
oracle ?

Knud

Re: font-lock, xemacs, latex

[Giulio Morgan]

Johann Spies <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> On Wed, Jan 03, 2001 at 10:06:49AM -0500, Giulio Morgan wrote:
> 
> > At some point during upgrades, I have lost font-locking capability
> > for LaTeX
> 
> Try the following:
> 
> Select (in Xemacs) Options, customize, apropos, font-lock
> 
> and activate font-lock-mode and font-lock-maximum-decoration
> 
> Set it and save it (Options, save options).  Your .emacs-file should
> contain something like this:
> 
> (custom-set-faces)
> (custom-set-variables
>  '(font-lock-maximum-decoration t)
>  '(font-lock-mode t nil (font-lock)))
> 
> 
> Regards.
> 
> Johann
> -- 
-- 
Thank you Johann, the options were set as you suggested, and yet there was
still no font-locking. Further investigation led me to add
  (if window-system
   (require 'font-latex))
to my .emacs, and this seems to have solved the problem. I don't know why this
was necessary, I imagine it may be from trying to run both xemacs and fsf
emacs. Thanks again,

Giulio

Giulio Morgan
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Re: [OFFTOPIC] Opinions on the O'Reilly book: http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/linuxkernel/

[Walter Tautz]

On Wed, 3 Jan 2001, Ray Percival wrote:

> I assume you mean the O'Reilly Debian book. It is worth reading online
> the website not worth buying. There are a couple of books on the kernel
> one has all the source and comments (INAC so I have not looked at it)
> I also noticed that O'Reilly has a kernel book. 

Actually I mean the book about the Linux kernel. I haven't had
a look at the debian book since it is apparently not all that 
good.

-walter

Re: Surely someone must have a solution to my recording problem?

[Johann Spies]

On Wed, Jan 03, 2001 at 10:32:44AM +, Barry Samuels wrote:

> I have tried recording using a number of different Linux
> applications (e.g. khdrec, kmedia, krecord, gramofile) for
> recording together with different mixers ( e.g. kmix, aumix ) and
> various versions of the Emu modules but all to no avail.
> 

I have tried yarec long ago, but I can really not say how good it is
because I only experimented a little bit with recording.  At that time
it was version 0.65.  I can not remember where I downloaded it from,
but it should not be to difficult to find.  Somebody who used Redhat
at that time recommended it.

Johann
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  dead in transgressions-it is by grace you have been
  saved."Ephesians 2:4,5 

Kmail stopped working, "Unexpected response from POP3 server"

[Bart Szyszka]

Hi,

I have to use Windows right now because Kmail has stopped
functioning. When I go to check my e-mail, it gives me "Internal
Error" followed by a line about submitting a bug report, then a
line that says "Unexpected response from POP3 server". It
keeps on doing this on the second message, no matter what the
message is. Everywhere else, including Outlook Express, I can
retrieve my mail just fine. Any ideas?

- Bart

Packages list.

[arthur]

Is there a quick way to rebuild the Packages file under the binary-i386
tree?  In other words, I would like to download the files I want for
Debian to put on one CD, like KDE 2, netscape 4.76?  In other words, is
there an easy way to make a custom CD for Debian, or do you have to go
through the origional packages file and pick out the entries.

Arthur H. Johnson II
Systems Engineer
The Linux Box
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.linuxbox.nu

Re: Kmail stopped working, "Unexpected response from POP3 server"

[Ethan Benson]

On Thu, Jan 04, 2001 at 10:22:14AM -0500, Bart Szyszka wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> I have to use Windows right now because Kmail has stopped
> functioning. When I go to check my e-mail, it gives me "Internal
> Error" followed by a line about submitting a bug report, then a
> line that says "Unexpected response from POP3 server". It
> keeps on doing this on the second message, no matter what the
> message is. Everywhere else, including Outlook Express, I can
> retrieve my mail just fine. Any ideas?

use fetchmail to fetch your mail and deliver it to your local MTA
which delivers it to your local mail spool.  then have kmail just use
that instead of using pop3 itself.  perhaps not the solution your
looking for but its far better then using MS Outhouse.

-- 
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su to root won't use the $LANG.. why?

[Kent Nyberg]

When i su to root, then root wont use the LANG variable.
Well.. the LANG isn't passed on from the normal user..
How could i make it so that su will use that..  

Sorry.. i cant describe it better, hope you understand!

Sendmail

[Sergio Matos]

Hello people.
A wonderfull millenium to you all.
I have installed sendmail to function as a internal mail server for
my intranet. I think sendmail rejects mail for the internet by default.
I do want to reject mail sent to the internet but I want to send a error
message to the sender.
If someone knows if this can be done, and how, I'll be grateful.
 
-- 
Sergio G. Aleixo de Matos

Universidade do Algarve
UCE - Campus de Gambelas
8000 Faro
Portugal
 

Upgrade to Xfree version4

[Alan Langman]

Hi,

How does one upgrade the version 3.3.6 XFree86 with version 4. I am
running the woody distro.

Thanks,

Alan

Re: changing timezone?

[Jon Pennington]

Forrest English wrote:
> 
> rebooting doesn't do the trick for me.
> 
> On Thu, 4 Jan 2001 07:11:54 +0100, NiColAs Karageuzian said:
> 
> > Okay, this sounds like a recent problem i had, timezone doesn't set as you
> >  described it in /etc/timezone untill you restart your system, that's how it
> >  worked.
> >
> >
> >  Anyway, if someone knows a better way, I'll be interressed to know ;-)
> >
> >  NiColAs

>From the messages that came up when debconf was setting up your time
zone, do you not recall that it says to use the `tzconfig' tool to make
these changes?

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tekram dc-390/t SCSI adapter

[Vincent_Gaines]

__



I am trying to install Debian 2.2 on my hp c3010 harddrive using a tekram
dc-390/t SCSI adapter.
if I use the 1.44 boot disk images (linux 2.2.18) i allways get an error
"invalid command interrupt... kernel panic no recovery".

However i have discovered that ftp.tekram.com had boot disk images for me
(rescue, driver) but these images are release 2.1
I have a 2.1 CD ROM but do not wish to go through the pain and agony of
upgrading to 2.2r2 via a 28.8 ISP connection.

How can i suppress the detection of the AM53C974 chip. (this driver gives
the error).
I want to use the TMSCSIM SCSI driver because this one is the one being
used on the tekram rescue boot disk.



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Re: mouse configuration

[Mithras]

On Thu, 4 Jan 2001, David B.Harris wrote:

> This thread about mouse configuration got me to try to get 'gpm' and X
> co-operating again, and I was successful this time. Let me explain my
> setup.

Thanks to everyone that replied!  The key for me was hearing about
"gpm".  I can't recall all the combinations I tried last night, but I
was successful setting up the mouse to work with both X and the
console.  After configuring gpm for the console, I changed the Pointer
declaration in XF86Config to use ttyS0, but I had to rename
/dev/gpmdata for X to listen to the serial port.

Since I'm going to use xdm for now, I suppose the major loss to me is
that I can't triple-click to reboot my machine.  I'm sure that a
uniform mouse device for X & console must be a wonderful thing, but I
alas must go without, for now.  And besides, I just discovered that my
keyboard's acting weird.

It never ends.  (But at least it is pretty.)

ben

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Re: su to root won't use the $LANG.. why?

[Ethan Benson]

On Thu, Jan 04, 2001 at 04:26:53PM +0100, Kent Nyberg wrote:
> When i su to root, then root wont use the LANG variable.
> Well.. the LANG isn't passed on from the normal user..
> How could i make it so that su will use that..  

im not sure why su resets that, probably some security reason.  i
would say just export it in /root/.bashrc.  in general you shouldn't
be root enough for it to matter though. 

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clock-chip autoprobe problems

[Tom Schuetz]

Using xf86config, when I run the autoprobe for a clock chip line, the screen 
blanks, then comes back with an 'autoprobe call failed' error line.

Meanwhile, X will kind of start, but all I get is a blue screen and an immobile 
pointer.

Is there a line I can just insert in a config file? Is my clock chip something 
I can ascertain just by looking at the actual card?

Thanks for everybod'ys help.

Re: Upgrade to Xfree version4

[Jon Pennington]

Alan Langman wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> How does one upgrade the version 3.3.6 XFree86 with version 4. I am
> running the woody distro.

Until a) glibc2.2 makes it into Woody again or b) Branden builds the
debs against glibc2.1, your only hope is to use the debs made for
Potato.  The 4.0.1 debs for Potato are UNSUPPORTED and are to be used AT
YOUR OWN RISK.  You can grab them from here:

  deb http://people.debian.org/%7Ecpbotha/ xf401_potato/i386/
  deb http://people.debian.org/%7Ecpbotha/ xf401_potato/all/

If they don't work, don't cry to me or anyone else for that matter.

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Re: clock-chip autoprobe problems

[Jon Pennington]

Tom Schuetz wrote:
> 
> Using xf86config, when I run the autoprobe for a clock chip line, the screen 
> blanks, then comes back with an 'autoprobe call failed' error line.

Why?  Do you know for a fact that you need a clockchip setting?  If you
don't know this for a fact, you should NOT be probing for one.  Most
PC-class graphics cards manufactured in the last 3 years don't need a
clockchip setting, and forcing the wrong one could damage your display
adapter.

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Re: XF86Config for X version4.xx

[Jon Pennington]

Timothy Walsh wrote:
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> Is there a preferred Debian tool (if any) for configuring
> the XF86Config file? I read that XF86Setup has been
> abandoned upstream and doesnt support version 4 synatax.

Try:

$ deXter# debian tool
$ XFree86 -configure# preferred, non-interactive
$ xf86cfg   # pretty graphical tool
$ xf86config# probably depricated by now

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Re: Kmail stopped working, "Unexpected response from POP3 server"

[Bart Szyszka]

> use fetchmail to fetch your mail and deliver it to your local MTA
> which delivers it to your local mail spool.  then have kmail just use
> that instead of using pop3 itself.  perhaps not the solution your
> looking for but its far better then using MS Outhouse.
Why would I need to do that? Is Kmail's support of POP3 buggy
or something? I've never had problems with it before and it did work
in this particular installation of Kmail once before it stopped working.

- Bart

Re: Kmail stopped working, "Unexpected response from POP3 server"

[MH]

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> "Bart" == Bart Szyszka <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

Bart> Hi, I have to use Windows right now because Kmail has stopped
Gulp!
What's that "because..."
There are dozens of options for retrieving  and reading mail in Linux
... not only kmail

Monolithic (all-in-one) and gui-solutions are sylpheed, xfmail, pronto...IIRC
  
A nice and emblematic program for fetching-mail-only is fetchmail. It
isn't too hard to configure and after making an alias it's just like
typing "fetch" and you've got your mail in /var/spool/mail/$user

Then you could use mutt, pine...etc. as MUA's
(And of course, if you are strong enough, give XEmacs and gnus a try...)

If you want to sort your incoming mail; procmail is your friend...

Sure, you will find how-to's at the LDP (www.linuxdoc.org); or from
kmself (have a look at the archives) or at the newbie-doc-site (look for
will trillich's postings) 
...
Bart> functioning. When I go to check my e-mail, it gives me
Bart> "Internal Error" followed by a line about submitting a bug
Bart> report, then a line that says "Unexpected response from POP3
Bart> server". It keeps on doing this on the second message, no
Bart> matter what the message is. Everywhere else, including Outlook
Bart> Express, I can retrieve my mail just fine. Any ideas?
You should get the exact error message from the message log; without it
there is no way ...

 HTH
MH
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Re: su to root won't use the $LANG.. why?

[Ben Collins]

On Thu, Jan 04, 2001 at 04:26:53PM +0100, Kent Nyberg wrote:
> When i su to root, then root wont use the LANG variable.
> Well.. the LANG isn't passed on from the normal user..
> How could i make it so that su will use that..  
> 
> Sorry.. i cant describe it better, hope you understand!

from "man su"

   -m, -p, --preserve-environment
  do not reset environment variables,  and  keep  the
  same shell


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Fonts in browsers

[Rob VanFleet]

Why is it that fonts (both truetype and not) show up fine in Netscape 4x
and Mozilla, but in Opera or Konqueror, all fonts are the same for each
page: a terribly ugly and badly scaled one for large text, and the same
Helvetica-ish for regular content text, regardless of what the page
specifies?

Apologies for the huge run-on... been up all night.

-Rob

Re: xinetd, tcpd (tcpwrappers), twist

[Matus \"fantomas\" Uhlar]

-> Greetings friends. Perhaps someone here can help me. (BTW -- a CC
-> would sure be nice, if you reply. :)
-> 
-> I am trying to build a short and sweet http redirector using the
-> twist function from hosts_options(5). I did this before, with ftp,
-> and inetd. Trouble is, now I am using a machine with xinetd
-> (Version 2.1.8.9pre11) and I cannot get the service to be used
-> twice -- it works once, then xinetd quits!
-> 
-> The xinetd.d directory entry I am using contains:
-> service httpd-redir
-> {
->  identifier  = httpd-redir
->  port= 6080
->  protocol= tcp
->  type= UNLISTED
->  flags   = NAMEINARGS
->  socket_type = stream
->  wait= no
->  user= root
->  server  = /usr/sbin/tcpd 
->  server_args = /usr/sbin/in.httpd-redir
->  log_on_failure  += USERID
-> }
-> 
-> The /etc/hosts.allow file contains:
-> in.httpd-redir : ALL : twist echo -en 'Hi'

hmmm, you can skip tcpd, NAMEINARGS, and put "httpd-redir" instead of
"in.http-redir" into hosts.allow - xinetd is linked with libwrap on debian

-> When running xinetd with:  xinetd -reuse -pidfile /var/run/xinetd.pid -d
-> I get error messages thus: 00/12/[EMAIL PROTECTED]:14:47: DEBUG: {main_loop} 
select returned 1
-> 
-> The whole bit says:
-> 
-> 00/12/[EMAIL PROTECTED]:14:44: WARNING: {attr_lookup} bad attribute: 
identifier [line=6]

well, that should be "id" not "identifier"

-> In any event, if you know what I can do to fix that stupid error, I would
-> *love* to hear it! ;)

hm what does httpd-redir manual say ? maybe it has to be run with "wait=yes"
option cause it multiplexes connections by itself
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Re: su to root won't use the $LANG.. why?

[ktb]

On Thu, Jan 04, 2001 at 04:26:53PM +0100, Kent Nyberg wrote:
> When i su to root, then root wont use the LANG variable.
> Well.. the LANG isn't passed on from the normal user..
> How could i make it so that su will use that..  
> 
> Sorry.. i cant describe it better, hope you understand!
> 

I don't know for sure but from the su manpage -
 -m, -p, --preserve-environment
 do not reset environment variables,  and
 keep  the same shell

 I would think that would do it for you.
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Re: Upgrade to Xfree version4

[Rob VanFleet]

On Thu, Jan 04, 2001 at 09:44:25AM -0600, Jon Pennington wrote:
> Until a) glibc2.2 makes it into Woody again or [snip]

glibc2.2 is in woody.  It got moved in a few days ago.  X4 and Perl are
apparently holding back a large share of other apps from moving into
testing/woody.

-Rob

Re: Parallel Printer Port Problem

[Jeffrey S. Coppock]

Well, it's still doesn't work.  I've added an options line in the 
/etc/modules.conf file specifying io=0x378 dma=3 irq=7.  With lp reloaded, I 
see in the /proc/parport/0 that these options are set and that my printer is 
being seen.  The syslog shows the following:

Jan  4 07:36:20 localhost kernel: parport0: PC-style at 0x378 (0x778), irq 7, 
dma 3 [SPP,ECP,ECPPS2]
Jan  4 07:36:21 localhost kernel: parport_probe: succeeded
Jan  4 07:36:21 localhost kernel: parport0: Printer, HEWLETT-PACKARD DESKJET 
950C
Jan  4 07:36:21 localhost kernel: lp0: using parport0 (interrupt-driven).

I've re-installed magicfilter, but that didn't help either.

Any ideas...please?

jc


On Wed, Jan 03, 2001 at 08:51:14PM -0600, matthschulz wrote:
> In order to make plip working I had to load the parport_pc with 
> io=0x378 irq=7.
> 
> Since 1824 is something like bidirectional maybe You give it a shot?
> 
> 
> Matth
> 
> On Mittwoch,  3. Januar 2001 18:50, Heather wrote:
> > > G'Day !
> > >
> > > I am not sure about this, I only use my parallel port for an old zip
> > > drive, and then not often enough 
> > >
> > > There are 4 parallel port modules located in the /lib/modules/2.2.18/misc
> > > directory  (parport.o, parport_pc.o, parport_probe.o, and paride.o).
> > > Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe they are dependent on each
> > > other.  I would try to load various combinations of the above modules,
> > > till you can figure out the correct combinations.
> >
> > parport itself is the really incredibly core part.  If you don't have that
> > nothing parallel will work, don't care which architecture you are.
> >
> > parport_pc is the usual PC style parallel ports.  It's so named because
> > some arch's have their own types, but might have PC style ports on some
> > models.  Alpha for example.  In short, it's the "real" device driver and
> > you need that too, immediately after loading parport.
> >
> > Usually there will be notes in the modutils files about those two, so that
> > they'll tend to auto load.
> >
> > lp is the parallel print module.  If you're not going to print - e.g.
> > laplink style cross connecting, zip drive from antiquity etc. - then you
> > won't need it.  OTOH if you *do* want to print, you must have it, or there
> > won't be enough to notice good printer protocols going on.
> >
> > Other devices have their own protocols and for those things, you'd need
> > their protocol modules instead.  Such as paride.
> >
> > > Hope this helps.
> >
> > Hope my expansion helps too :)
> >
> >
> > * Heather Stern * star@ many places...
> 
> 
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Re: XDM startup screen

[David B . Harris]

To quote Koen Colpaert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
# After some experimenting with Suse, Slackware and Mandrake I turned to
# Debian. After installing and configuring X I was presented with a grey
# xdm-display as a loginscreen. I was wondering if there aren't any
better
# background images available and where can I find them.

Check out http://x.themes.org . It has lots of miscellaneous themes; for
instance, it has XDM themes :)

Dave

Re: back to stable

[David B . Harris]

To quote Knud Sørensen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
# apt-get got over 40 packets to install including X windows 4.0

Not surprising. gnome-db is even now developmental software; it would
require lots of new GNOME stuff :

# 1) So, How do I return to stable ??

You remove each and every one of those 40 packages that were installed,
and you pray :) You did keep a list of those packages, didn't you? :)

# 2) Is there any database front-end which run on stable and support
# oracle ?

I dunno about that :(

Dave

Re: Box refusing connections after changing to static IP?

[Matus \"fantomas\" Uhlar]

-> I have a box I've set up at work as a CVS server, to accept CVS and
-> SSH connections, mostly from Windows boxes on an internal network.
-> Well, I installed Debian 2.2 stable on it and set it up to use DHCP to
-> get it's IP, got CVS and SSH working, everything was fine.
-> 
-> However, I was told to change it to use a static IP.  I mucked with
-> /etc/network/interfaces to use a static IP, may have done some other
-> tweaking of mostly unrelated stuff, and then I noticed that, whereas
-> before I could have a SSH session open from my Windows machine (putty)
-> all day, now I get periodically kicked off ("connection has been reset
-> by peer"-type messages), or it takes several tries to get a
-> connection.  And our CVS access also has the same kind of problem
-> ("connection refused by host" -type messages), have to try repeatedly
-> for over a minute sometimes.  This is very annoying, to say the least.

seems your network daemons are configured to listen only on one ip, the one
you had before. They have to be configured to listen on IP 0.0.0.0 - every
IP matches that no matter if you change your IP address. find configuration
of your sshd...

ListenAddress   0.0.0.0

if you have your old IP, change it to new one, or better to this one :)
same about cvsupd, although I'm not sure if you don't ru it through
inetd/xinetd

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Re: Kmail stopped working, "Unexpected response from POP3 server"

[Bart Szyszka]

> What's that "because..."
> There are dozens of options for retrieving  and reading mail in Linux
> .. not only kmail
> Monolithic (all-in-one) and gui-solutions are sylpheed, xfmail,
> pronto...IIRC
I've tried tons of these options and when I use them I'd feel like I'd be 
using more of a workaround than just getting my e-mail. I love Kmail. It's so 
useful with a decent interface (KDE). If I didn't have Kmail, then I'd just 
have this feeling that my Linux system isn't complete and I'd be itching to 
reboot to Windows. I get that all the time when I'm using a program and it 
doesn't work quite as well as its Windows counter-part.

> You should get the exact error message from the message log; without it
> there is no way ...
For future reference, where's the message log? I removed Kmail with dpkg 
--purge and deleted all the related configuration files, reinstalled Kmail, 
reconfigured it, and not it works like a charm. Back to Linux it is. I'm home 
for two weeks so I really can't bother with these types of inconveniences. If 
I were on my regular computer, I'd definitly be trying hard to get Kmail 
working if it broke.

- Bart

Re: Packages list.

[David B . Harris]

To quote <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
# 
# Is there a quick way to rebuild the Packages file under the
binary-i386
# tree?  In other words, I would like to download the files I want for
# Debian to put on one CD, like KDE 2, netscape 4.76?  In other words,
is
# there an easy way to make a custom CD for Debian, or do you have to go
# through the origional packages file and pick out the entries.

Check out http://cdimage.debian.org . It's sort of an odd layout, like
it asks you question about what you intend to do. So tell it you want to
"burn many CDs to sell/give away", and then choose the option that is
not "burn official CDs", which will lead you to:
http://cdimage.debian.org/ch32.html .

That'll get you a script which I think might fit the bill.

Dave

Re: Kmail stopped working, "Unexpected response from POP3 server"

[Ethan Benson]

On Thu, Jan 04, 2001 at 10:49:35AM -0500, Bart Szyszka wrote:
> > use fetchmail to fetch your mail and deliver it to your local MTA
> > which delivers it to your local mail spool.  then have kmail just use
> > that instead of using pop3 itself.  perhaps not the solution your
> > looking for but its far better then using MS Outhouse.
> Why would I need to do that? Is Kmail's support of POP3 buggy
> or something? I've never had problems with it before and it did work
> in this particular installation of Kmail once before it stopped working.

well apparently, since the pop3 server works with other mailers you
know its functioning.  without a transcript of what kmail is saying to
the pop3 server and what the pop3 server is saying back there is
really no way to say what could be wrong.  

-- 
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Re: back to stable

[Knud Sørensen]

"David B. Harris" wrote:
> 
> To quote Knud Sørensen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> # apt-get got over 40 packets to install including X windows 4.0
> 
> Not surprising. gnome-db is even now developmental software; it would
> require lots of new GNOME stuff :
> 
> # 1) So, How do I return to stable ??
> 
> You remove each and every one of those 40 packages that were installed,
> and you pray :) You did keep a list of those packages, didn't you? :)

That what i have tried to but some of the packets 
pre or post remove scripts fails!

So, is the any way to remove a packet without running them. ?

Knud




> # 2) Is there any database front-end which run on stable and support
> # oracle ?
> 
> I dunno about that :(
> 
> Dave
> 
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Re: back to stable

[David B . Harris]

To quote Knud Sørensen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
# That what i have tried to but some of the packets 
# pre or post remove scripts fails!
# 
# So, is the any way to remove a packet without running them. ?

Not that I know of, off the top of my head. 'man dpkg' to check for
sure.

Dave

Re: [slightly OT] book recomendations?

[R. Ransbottom]

On Wed, 3 Jan 2001, Xucaen wrote:

> Hi all,, there have been some mentions of books
> on the list, but nothing definitive...
> can anyone recomend a good system
> administration/network administration book?

An addition to the other good recommendations
you've received.

_Unix_Backup_&_Recovery_ by W. Curtis Preston
from O'Reilly is a good treatment of a core
SA duty.  

Re: Parallel Printer Port Problem

[JParker]

G'Day !

Well at least the laptop now sees the printer ... that is probably the hard part.  I think you now have to read the Printing-HOWTO very carefully, and make sure your permissions are correct (always bite me in the past  ;-)

Are you able to print anythng on the printer (ASCII text perhaps) ?  Can you print as root ?  My HP Deskjet did the same thing for awhile, turned out it was problems with the /etc/printcap file.

Good luck.

cheers,
Jim Parker

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"Jeffrey S. Coppock" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
01/04/01 08:03 AM

        
        To:        debian laptop list , debian user list 
        cc:        [EMAIL PROTECTED]
        Subject:        Re: Parallel Printer Port Problem

Well, it's still doesn't work.  I've added an options line in the /etc/modules.conf file specifying io=0x378 dma=3 irq=7.  With lp reloaded, I see in the /proc/parport/0 that these options are set and that my printer is being seen.  The syslog shows the following:

Jan  4 07:36:20 localhost kernel: parport0: PC-style at 0x378 (0x778), irq 7, dma 3 [SPP,ECP,ECPPS2]
Jan  4 07:36:21 localhost kernel: parport_probe: succeeded
Jan  4 07:36:21 localhost kernel: parport0: Printer, HEWLETT-PACKARD DESKJET 950C
Jan  4 07:36:21 localhost kernel: lp0: using parport0 (interrupt-driven).

I've re-installed magicfilter, but that didn't help either.

Any ideas...please?

jc


On Wed, Jan 03, 2001 at 08:51:14PM -0600, matthschulz wrote:
> In order to make plip working I had to load the parport_pc with 
> io=0x378 irq=7.
> 
> Since 1824 is something like bidirectional maybe You give it a shot?
> 
> 
> Matth
> 
> On Mittwoch,  3. Januar 2001 18:50, Heather wrote:
> > > G'Day !
> > >
> > > I am not sure about this, I only use my parallel port for an old zip
> > > drive, and then not often enough 
> > >
> > > There are 4 parallel port modules located in the /lib/modules/2.2.18/misc
> > > directory  (parport.o, parport_pc.o, parport_probe.o, and paride.o).
> > > Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe they are dependent on each
> > > other.  I would try to load various combinations of the above modules,
> > > till you can figure out the correct combinations.
> >
> > parport itself is the really incredibly core part.  If you don't have that
> > nothing parallel will work, don't care which architecture you are.
> >
> > parport_pc is the usual PC style parallel ports.  It's so named because
> > some arch's have their own types, but might have PC style ports on some
> > models.  Alpha for example.  In short, it's the "real" device driver and
> > you need that too, immediately after loading parport.
> >
> > Usually there will be notes in the modutils files about those two, so that
> > they'll tend to auto load.
> >
> > lp is the parallel print module.  If you're not going to print - e.g.
> > laplink style cross connecting, zip drive from antiquity etc. - then you
> > won't need it.  OTOH if you *do* want to print, you must have it, or there
> > won't be enough to notice good printer protocols going on.
> >
> > Other devices have their own protocols and for those things, you'd need
> > their protocol modules instead.  Such as paride.
> >
> > > Hope this helps.
> >
> > Hope my expansion helps too :)
> >
> >
> > * Heather Stern * star@ many places...
> 
> 
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Re: Is there a nice graphical front end available for gpg or pgp ?

[Massimo Dal Zotto]

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> On Wed, Jan 03, 2001 at 09:34:04PM +, Sam Vilain wrote:
> > > I am looking for a graphical front end for gpg and or pgp. Possibly qt or 
> > > gtk 
> > > based. Is geheimnis packaged already ?
> > 
> > Check out the GnuPG home page at http://www.gnupg.org/, it has a list of 
> > many front-ends available.  Then just use the "search" function in dselect 
> > with the name of the package, if you're lucky it'll exist.   > mode="shameless">Until Debian has a functionally structured package 
> > repository there isn't really a better solution.
> > 
> 
> there is also apt-cache search
> 
> apt-cache search gpg
> 
> please wrap your lines at something reasonable say 72 char.  
> 
> -- 
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There is also dpkg-www:

  dpkg-www =gpg

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how to remove bad inodes after fsck?

[Massimo Dal Zotto]

Hi,

I can't remove some files left in /lost+found from fsck after a bad crash:

# ls -lR /lost+found/
/lost+found/:
total 1723224935
sr-sr-sr--1 27814525884294967295 Feb 11  1943 #4624
drwxr-xr-x2 root root 1024 Dec 29 14:43 #67082

/lost+found/#67082:
total 1723224934
sr-sr-sr--1 27814525884294967295 Feb 11  1943 spool

# rm -f /lost+found/\#4624 /lost+found/\#67082/spool
rm: cannot unlink `/lost+found/#4624': Operation not permitted
rm: cannot unlink `/lost+found/#67082/spool': Operation not permitted

# lsattr /lost+found/\#4624 /lost+found/\#67082/spool
lsattr: Inappropriate ioctl for device While reading flags on /lost+found/#4624
lsattr: Inappropriate ioctl for device While reading flags on 
/lost+found/#67082/spool

Any idea?

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Re: RES: Modem [Re: hardware]

[Mario Olimpio de Menezes]

On Thu, 4 Jan 2001, Rodrigo S. de Castro wrote:

>
>   Eu tenho o Speedy (256k) com a Terra e funciona super bem,

esqueci de citar que eu uso ISDN.

[]s,
Mario O.de Menezes"Many are the plans in a man's heart, but
IPEN-CNEN/SP is the Lord's purpose that prevails"
http://curiango.ipen.br/~mario Prov. 19.21

i810 compatible?

[Marcello Mezzanotti]

Is i810 compatible with xfree potato?
'cause i compiled 2.2.18 kernel (with i810 module (acitved) suport)
but x doesnt display a i810 driver in setup


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ALSA with AWE64: help

[Maciej Kalisiak]

Hi,

I've had sound and MIDI working great on my box for the longest time with just
the plain, non-alsa sound stuff (the OSS drivers?), and then I installed a
package which also required the alsa-base package.  Since then I haven't been
able to use MIDI, and I suspect the digital audio I get is still using the old
drivers, and ALSA is simply busted on my box.

So are there any docs somewhere on how to properly install a complete ALSA
setup?

BTW, I have a AWE64 value sound card (which, again, worked completely prior to
alsa-base).

I think ALSA is busted here because I get stuff like this on bootup:

  AWE32: not detected
  Soundblaster audio driver Copyright (C) by Hannu Savolainen 1993-1996
  SB 4.16 detected OK (220)

or when I finish running alsaconf:

  Loading driver:
  Starting ALSA sound driver (version none): no driver installed.
  Setting the PCM volume to 100% and the Master output volume to 50%
  The ALSA sound driver was not detected in this system.
  Could not initialize the mixer, the card was probably
  not detected correctly.

I suspect that I might need to install alsadriver (which is one of the
alsa-modules-* debs), but then I can't use the kernel I built myself (which
does have AWE and sound support, as it works without ALSA), or rather I'm
weary of having apt-get mess around with my kernel bits.

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formatting new partition

[john gennard]

I've created a 200Mb Linux partition to house various downloaded
files I intend to make accessible to a number of distros while I
continue to test out ideas and learn. Having only dial-up modem 
access, this will let me save on 'phone charges (i.e. not
d/loading the same thing into different distros).

It seems formatting can be done with 'mkfs' - most of the manpage
is (hopefully!) clear, but I have seen no guidance on what block
sizes would be appropriate or what the advantages/disadvantages
of different ones are. 512 and 8192 may well be the extremes of 
choice - but what should I select and why?

This is just a spare stand-alone PC box, using Potato r0 as its
mainstay - the Processor is a Pentium 166MMX (left over from
upgrades).

Would someone kindly offer advice. John.

Re: alsa software mixing

[Noah L. Meyerhans]

Is this not a case of hardware mixing?  ymfpci has a hardware mixer, and
if alsa supports that, then audio streams should be mixed by the sound
hardware itself.

Of course, I could be entirely wrong.  I don't know much about how
hardware/software mixers interact, relate, or collide.  I really don't
know what I'm talking about.  8^)

noah

On Wed, Jan 03, 2001 at 05:34:49PM -0800, Joey Hess wrote:
> I was astounded today when my laptop was able to play a mp3 while I was
> running a game with sound effects. I don't use esound; I do use alsa
> with the snd-card-ymfpci module. 
> 
> I didn't realize alsa did software mixing. This rules! Am I just
> particularly lucky about the sound card in my laptop[1], or is this a
> standard alsa feature for many cards?
> 

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Re: i810 compatible?

[Jon Pennington]

Marcello Mezzanotti wrote:
> 
> Is i810 compatible with xfree potato?
> 'cause i compiled 2.2.18 kernel (with i810 module (acitved) suport)
> but x doesnt display a i810 driver in setup

You'd be a lot better off to get the Potato XFree86 4.0.1 packages. 
3.3.6 and this chip don't play nicely together.

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X window too big

[MrHobbit420]

thanks for all the help with the mouse and video card 
configuration.
 
 In the default screen I got after installing debian2.2r2, the screen is 
huge. Actually it is just
four times the size of my monitor screen and I have to 
move around the whole X screen using the mouse. So 
when I open a new window, I have to look around the 
other 3/4 of the screen to see where it opened. 
Any idea why this happened and how to rectify. 
thanks.
   nitai

Re: back to stable

[Colin Watson]

Knud =?iso-8859-1?Q?S=F8rensen?= <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>"David B. Harris" wrote:
>> To quote Knud Sørensen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
>> # apt-get got over 40 packets to install including X windows 4.0
>> 
>> Not surprising. gnome-db is even now developmental software; it would
>> require lots of new GNOME stuff :
>> 
>> # 1) So, How do I return to stable ??
>> 
>> You remove each and every one of those 40 packages that were installed,
>> and you pray :) You did keep a list of those packages, didn't you? :)
>
>That what i have tried to but some of the packets 
>pre or post remove scripts fails!

Edit the scripts in /var/lib/dpkg/info/.prerm (or postrm, or
preinst or postinst for install scripts), find out what's causing them
to fail (changing '#!/bin/sh' on the first line to '#!/bin/sh -x' will
give you a trace and make it very obvious where they're failing), fix
them, and try removing them again. Oh, and please file a bug against the
relevant packages if one hasn't been filed already.

>So, is the any way to remove a packet without running them. ?

You could always move them out of the way and carry out the actions they
perform manually.

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Re: i810 compatible?

[Marcello Mezzanotti]

Jon Pennington wrote:
> 
> Marcello Mezzanotti wrote:
> >
> > Is i810 compatible with xfree potato?
> > 'cause i compiled 2.2.18 kernel (with i810 module (acitved) suport)
> > but x doesnt display a i810 driver in setup
> 
> You'd be a lot better off to get the Potato XFree86 4.0.1 packages.
> 3.3.6 and this chip don't play nicely together.
> 

fine, but where is the packages, for woody too?


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Oh my God, they killed INIT, you BASTARDS

Re: init dying with NFS root

[Stefano]

I noticed the same problem. Linux 2.2.13 works, while 2.2.17 or higher 
does not. I installed 2.2.16 or 2.2.15 (I dont remember), and it works.

Good luck

Stefano Curtarolo


On Wed, 3 Jan 2001, Tim Bell wrote:

> I wrote:
> 
> > I'm trying to set up a Beowulf cluster using NFS root for booting,
> > but I'm not having much success.
> [...]
> > This is all using 2.4.0-prerelease.  (2.2.18 and 2.2.19pre3 both failed
> > before even getting to mounting root -- I'm not sure why yet.)  The
> > kernel is loaded by LILO from an ext2 filesystem on a floppy or hard
> > disk.
> 
> Well, I didn't find out what was causing the problem, but I found that
> booting from a kernel which was dd'd directly onto the floppy (as
> opposed to being loaded by lilo from a filesystem on the floppy) works.
> I was using lilo so I could use the kernel boot options, but I can get
> around that by using bootp instead.
> 
> Now I just need to sort out all the other little problems...
> 
> Tim.
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Re: X window too big

[Hall Stevenson]

>  In the default screen I got after installing debian2.2r2,
> the screen is huge. Actually it is just four times the
> size of my monitor screen and I have to move around
> the whole X screen using the mouse. So
> when I open a new window, I have to look around the
> other 3/4 of the screen to see where it opened.
> Any idea why this happened and how to rectify.

Edit your /etc/X11/XF86Config (possibly XF86Config-4) file. In the
'Section "Screen"' part, look for a line starting with "virtual" and put
a "#" in front of it. If your screen is really 4x bigger, the numbers
following "virtual" will be 4x the resolution that's noted in a line
above or below.

Good luck
Hall

Re: i810 compatible?

[Jon Pennington]

Marcello Mezzanotti wrote:
> 
> Jon Pennington wrote:
> >
> > Marcello Mezzanotti wrote:
> > >
> > > Is i810 compatible with xfree potato?
> > > 'cause i compiled 2.2.18 kernel (with i810 module (acitved) suport)
> > > but x doesnt display a i810 driver in setup
> >
> > You'd be a lot better off to get the Potato XFree86 4.0.1 packages.
> > 3.3.6 and this chip don't play nicely together.
> >
> 
> fine, but where is the packages, for woody too?

deb http://people.debian.org/%7Ecpbotha/ xf401_potato/i386/
deb http://people.debian.org/%7Ecpbotha/ xf401_potato/all/

Use at your own risk (tm).

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Problems compiling alsa for 2.4 kernel

[Jeronimo Pellegrini]

Hello.

I've compiled alsa (0.5.10) for my kernel (test13-pre7) without
problems. ThenI installed alsa-base, alsaconf and the modules:

alsa-modules-2.4.0-test13-pre7_0.5.10-2+p0+2_i386.deb

And ran alsaconf.

Everything seems to work until alsaconf (or I) try to start alsa:

# /etc/init.d/alsa start
Starting ALSA sound driver (version 0.5.10): no sound cards defined.

And modprobe snd-card-ens1371  does:


/usr/lib/alsa-modules/2.4.0-test13-pre7/0.5/snd-card-ens1371.o: init_module: No 
such device
Hint: insmod errors can be caused by incorrect module parameters, including 
invalid IO or IRQ 
parameters/usr/lib/alsa-modules/2.4.0-test13-pre7/0.5/snd-card-ens1371.o: 
insmod /usr/lib/alsa-modules/2.4.0-test13-pre7/0.5/snd-card-ens1371.o failed
/usr/lib/alsa-modules/2.4.0-test13-pre7/0.5/snd-card-ens1371.o: insmod 
snd-card-ens1371 failed


Is this because this is a 2.4.0 kernel? The modules interface changed
from 2.2 to 2.4, then? The description of alsa-source didn't say
anything about a kernel version...

Thanks,
J.

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Re: formatting new partition

[David B . Harris]

To quote john gennard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
# It seems formatting can be done with 'mkfs' - most of the manpage
# is (hopefully!) clear, but I have seen no guidance on what block
# sizes would be appropriate or what the advantages/disadvantages
# of different ones are. 512 and 8192 may well be the extremes of 
# choice - but what should I select and why?

Well, most of that is done automatically. If you have Windows on the
machine, you should use 'mkfs.vfat', so it can read it too. If you don't
have Windows, stick with ext2, and run 'mkfs.ext2 /dev/'. It should Just Work(tm). :)

Dave

chroot II: What's wrong?

[R. M. Lampert]

Hi!

First of all: Thanks for your patience and thanks for
your pointers for help.  

chroot() may not be the ultimate solution for running
servers safely, but it seems to raise the bar for 
crackers quite effectively.  For those who are 
interested: I found quite exactly what I was looking 
for on

   http://penguin.epfl.ch/chroot.html

For testing purposes I tried what I found there
on my system (potato without extensions in this 
area). It seems that chroot denies service, 
though. Look at this:


   ROOT # chroot /bin/ /ls -l
   chroot: cannot execute /ls: No such file or directory

   ROOT # cd /bin/
   ROOT # /bin/ls -l
   << Output as expected >>


According to the info page and the output of 
  
   ROOT # chroot --help

I can see nothing that I did wrong.

   ROOT # chroot --version 

expands to this:

   chroot (GNU sh-utils) 2.0
   Written by Roland McGrath.
   
   Copyright (C) 1999 Free Software Foundation, Inc.
   [WARRANTYBLURB]


Have you got any ideas what I'm missing?

Thanks in advance,

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Re: Quick questions

[Olaf Foellinger]

* [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [04.01.01 06:49]wrote:

> 
> I was wondering, could you get a base Debian system installed by
> downloading from /dists/potato/main/disks-i386/current/:
> 
> base2_2.tgz
> images-1.44/rescue.bin
> images-1.44/root.bin
> 
> Then install the rest of the system when I get networking configured?

It's even possible with only rescue.bin and root.bin when your network
card is supported that means is compiled in the kernel. Worked for me a
few month ago.

Gruss Olaf

[repost] kernel-package problem?

[Jeronimo Pellegrini]

Hello.

Some days ago I've posted a message about kernel-packagee not cleaning
the modules tree properly. Since then, I've also found a bug filed
against alsa-source complaining about the same behavior.

The problem is: should make-kpkg run "debian/rules clean" in those
dirs or should it run "make kdist_clean"? The former works, and
it'swhat the documentation claims that it does, but it semes taht in
practice, make-kpkg will try a make kdist_clean...

Now... I suppose this is a make-kpkg bug, and that there's nothing
wrong with the modules packages?

J.



$ fakeroot make-kpkg modules_clean
test -f stamp-debian || /usr/bin/make -f /usr/share/kernel-package/rules debian
test -f .config  || /usr/bin/make -f /usr/share/kernel-package/rules .config
test ! -f stamp-configure \
  && /usr/bin/make  CROSS_COMPILE= \
 ARCH=i386 oldconfig \
  && /usr/bin/make  CROSS_COMPILE= \
 ARCH=i386 dep \
  && /usr/bin/make  CROSS_COMPILE= \
 ARCH=i386 clean && \
  touch stamp-configure
make: [stamp-configure] Error 1 (ignored)
for module in /home/jeronimo/Linux/kernel/modules/* ; do \
  if test -d  $module; then \
(cd $module; \
  if ./debian/rules KVERS="2.4.0-prerelease-ac3" 
KSRC="/home/jeronimo/Linux/kernel/linux-2.4.0-pre-ac3-reiser" \
 KMAINT="Jeronimo Pellegrini" KEMAIL="[EMAIL 
PROTECTED]"  \
 KDREV="Custom.1.00" kdist_clean; then\
  echo "Module $module cleaned";   \
  else  \
   echo "Module $module failed to clean up";   \
   echo "Hit return to Continue?";  \
   read ans;\
  fi;   \
 ); \
  fi;   \
done
make[1]: Entering directory `/home/jeronimo/Linux/kernel/modules/i2c-2.5.4'
make[1]: *** No rule to make target `kdist_clean'.  Stop.
make[1]: Leaving directory `/home/jeronimo/Linux/kernel/modules/i2c-2.5.4'
Module /home/jeronimo/Linux/kernel/modules/i2c-2.5.4 failed to clean up
Hit return to Continue?
make: *** [modules_clean] Interrupt


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Re: font-lock, xemacs, latex

[Peter S Galbraith]

Giulio Morgan wrote:

> On Wed, Jan 03, 2001 at 10:06:49AM -0500, Giulio Morgan wrote:
> 
> > At some point during upgrades, I have lost font-locking capability
> > for LaTeX

>Further investigation led me to add
>   (if window-system
>(require 'font-latex))
> to my .emacs, and this seems to have solved the problem. 

Right.  This is documented in font-latex.el itself.

>  I
> don't know why this was necessary, I imagine it may be from
> trying to run both xemacs and fsf emacs.

I don't think so.  They are both identical (and both a bit
outdated).

font-latex.el is a contributed file to auc-tex, and so auc-tex's
setup doesn't enable it by default.  I suppose it should be
better documented, and perhaps added to future versions of
tex-site.el (auc-tex's setup file) as a customizable item.

Would this have helped?  I figure 95% of users never go into the
Customize menu...

For the Debian auctex package, the current debconf support could
be supplemented to ask the user if font-latex and bib-cite should
be turned-on.

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Re: SCSI challenge

[Andrew Hagen]

Which Advansys card do you have? In any case, this page could help.



good luck,

Andrew Hagen
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On Wed, 3 Jan 2001 17:50:35 -0800, David S. Bach wrote:

>It's really nice to get X up with Debian. It really can be done in a 
>single install (CAN be done, but maybe not the first try!).
>
>Anyway, I took the Windows computer that works as a backup for games 
>and Word and installed 2.2r2 with X, and it looks and works great - 
>no mouse problems, nice virtual screen, a nice environment.
>
>What I cannot do yet is get Debian 2.2r2 to speak with my Advansys 
>SCSI card. Tied to it are a couple of gigabytes of storage I would be 
>happy to turn over to Deb. Installing the SCSI module didn't help, 
>and LILO cannot be coaxed into dual-booting Win95 on the first 
>partition of the SCSI devices (though Windoze boots fine if I disable 
>the IDE drive were Linux resides.
>
>What are my options to access the SCSI storage through the Advansys 
>card? Advansys claims to actively support Linux, but offers modules 
>only for Red Hat and Suse, which I can download - but, hey!, what do 
>I do with them?
>
>I almost always solve my Linux problems (I have two other vanilla PCs 
>running Linux as a gateway and a Web server) with man pages and 
>HOWTOs. But this has me stumped. Can anyone out there direct me to 
>the right resource?
>
>TIA,
>
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Re: chroot II: What's wrong?

[J.H.M. Dassen \(Ray\)]

On Thu, Jan 04, 2001 at 11:59:02 +0100, R. M. Lampert wrote:
>ROOT # chroot /bin/ /ls -l
>chroot: cannot execute /ls: No such file or directory

The libraries used by the binaries you want to run in the chroot-ed
environment need to be in there as well. 

HTH,
Ray
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FYI: using logitech cordless keyboard extra keys in X4

[Remco van de Meent]

Hi,

Maybe this is interesting for people with a Logitech Itouch or Cordless
keyboard that is equipped with a dozen extra keys for controlling audio
and internet related things. I'm using a cordless keyboard, XFree86 4.01
and the sawfish window manager (debian unstable).

First step is to configure X so that it knows about the extra keys. This
version of X already comes with some knowledge about them so we just
have to enable it. In the XF86Config file, XkbModel to "logicordless"
(or "itouch"). Restart X. You can now check whether it works or not by
using the 'xev' utility: while running it, you should see things like
"XF86Standby" in its output when pressing the "sleep" key.

Second step is to go to the shortcuts section of the sawfish
configuration in the gnome control panel. Using "add" and "grab", I
entered the following shortcuts:

XF86AudioLowerVolume -> Run shell command: amixer set Master 1-
XF86AudioRaiseVolume -> Run shell command: amixer set Master 1+
XF86AudioPlay -> Run shell command: xmms -u
XF86AudioNext -> Run shell command: xmms -f
XF86AudioPrev -> Run shell command: xmms -r
XF86AudioStop -> Run shell command: xmms -s
XF86Standby -> Gnome logout
XF86Mail -> Run shell command: evolution
XF86HomePage -> Run shell command: gnome-moz-remote --newwin ""
XF86Search -> Run shell command: gnome-moz-remote --newwin
"http://www.gnome.org";

I left the mute key out, as I haven't found a way yet to actually toggle
it on and off (I know you can mute it with amixer set Master mute and
unmute with amixer set Master unmute, but you'd need an extra script to
have it toggling between those values).


Cheers,
Remco.

PS It Works For Me (tm) :-)

woody broke tex?

[Peter Jay Salzman]

these things always seem to happen right before a presentation...  i have a
definition for vectors:

\renewcommand{\v}[1]{\ensuremath{{\bf\vec{#1

just recently, i found this produced vectors with a ~ symbol instead of the
familiar vector symbol.  previously, this macro always gave me nice vectors.
in this code snippet:

\documentclass[12pt]{article}
\usepackage{amsmath}
\begin{document}

\begin{equation} \bf\vec{x} \end{equation}

\end{document}

the \vec{} produces a squiggly line, very much like \~.   by commenting out
the usepackage for amsmath, \vec produces the familiar vector symbol.
including amsmath seems to be the culprit.

i think tetex was updated a few weeks ago, and it's conceivable that i
haven't noticed this behavior since then; i've been on vacation for awhile.

has anyone else noticed this?

pete


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Need bandwidth usage tool

[Daniel Lesage]

My provider enforces a bandwidth limitation (5G download, 1G upload) per
month above which they will charge me extra. 

I would like your recommendations as to which program I should run on my
potato masquerading box to keep track of upload and download totals. I've
looked at both mrtg and iptraf, but neither seems to do quite what I need.

Thanks in advance,
Dan.

Re: FYI: using logitech cordless keyboard extra keys in X4

[David B . Harris]

# I left the mute key out, as I haven't found a way yet to actually
toggle
# it on and off (I know you can mute it with amixer set Master mute and
# unmute with amixer set Master unmute, but you'd need an extra script
to
# have it toggling between those values).

Here's a quick script to make mute-toggling work:

--- Start script ~/bin/toggle-mute.bash ---
#!/bin/sh

if [ -f /tmp/muted.${USER} ]; then
aumix  && rm -f /tmp/muted.${USER}
else
aumix  && touch /tmp/muted.${USER}
fi
--- End script ~/bin/toggle-mute.bash ---

Re: su to root won't use the $LANG.. why?

[Eric Richardson]

Ethan Benson wrote:
> 
> On Thu, Jan 04, 2001 at 04:26:53PM +0100, Kent Nyberg wrote:
> > When i su to root, then root wont use the LANG variable.
> > Well.. the LANG isn't passed on from the normal user..
> > How could i make it so that su will use that..
> 
> im not sure why su resets that, probably some security reason.  i
> would say just export it in /root/.bashrc.  in general you shouldn't
> be root enough for it to matter though.

I think putting the LANG into the root env is a better idea than
preserving the env from a normal user. You could also set it manually
once the su is complete. If you want the root env you should login 

su -

which should source the env file and put you in the /root directory.

Eric :-)

Re: nis (yp) and large group files.

[Massimo Dal Zotto]

> We use nis to distribute access rights across a group of servers we use
> for central functions. The majority of files (around 1,000,000) belong
> to a central user and we need a lot of people to be able to modify these
> files, this means a large group file. If more than a certain number (or
> it may be a character limit on the line I suppose) of users are added to
> the group all is well on the ypserver machine but the clients just lose
> all info on the group concerned, without any warning. At which point the
> website breaks and people yell at me!
> Any clues on either what is the limit, can it be extended or an
> alternative system to yp?
> Thanks a lot
> Jeff Green
> 
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The problem is in the libgdbmg1 library which has a block size limit
equal to the blocksize of the underlying filesystem.

I solved the problem by recompiling libgdbmg1 using an hardwired larger
block size.

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Re: Network Throughput

[Sebastiaan]

On Thu, 4 Jan 2001, Philipp Schulte wrote:

> On Wed, Jan 03, 2001 at 05:37:56PM -0500, Tim Sailer wrote: 
> 
> > I have a Debian box with 2 NICs. Both 100Meg, running in full duplex. This
> > machine is running as a ftp proxy. As part of the traffic going through the
> > box, some streams have 1000k window size for a certain reason. How do
> > I tune the NICs to handle the streams better? There are ways of doing this
> > on other OSs. Right now, the box only does about 1.8Mb when it should be 
> > doing
> > 80+Mb.
> 
> I guess you are mixing up MBit and MByte. 
> Phil
You too, it is Mb for megabit and MB for megabyte.
Same for kB = kiloByte.

Please do not use silly shorts, like
mb = milibit, or
KB = Kelvin Byte

All this is consistent with SI (= Systeme International).

Greetz,
Sebastiaan