Re: Problem solved (was: Silly Problem: Unable to access deb-files via CD-ROM)

2000-10-20 Thread Markus Fischer
On Wed, Oct 11, 2000 at 06:08:42PM +0200, Andreas Hetzmannseder wrote : 
> However I want to be able to use /dev/hdb as well, as it is a
> CD-writer. Do I have to install a specific module to make it work?

Depends, what kind of manufactor, model, etc ? You know,
without more details its a bit hard ;)

kind regards,
Markus

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Re: CD-drive blocked after successless mounting

2000-10-20 Thread Markus Fischer
On Thu, Oct 19, 2000 at 11:53:09PM +0200, Andreas Hetzmannseder wrote : 
> Well, that's funny: CD remains in jail again :)
> I checked /proc/sys/dev/cdrom/lock: It did contain '0' (zero).
> I have kernel 2.2.17 (potato).

Since you have a fairly new kernel and you are talking
about IDE cdrom, try contacting Jens Axboe, current IDE cdrom
driver maintainer; maybe he knows a quick&fast solution.

kind regards,
Markus

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Re: xcdroast permissions

2000-10-20 Thread Dave Sherohman
On Fri, Oct 20, 2000 at 03:53:35PM +1000, Matthew Dalton wrote:
> It can't run properly without root priviledges. It's probably not
> installed suid root because suid root programs are a security risk.

It turns out that the reason it's not installed suid is that I was asked
whether to install it suid by the postinst script and I said no.

> You can either use su to change to the root user, then run it, or you
> can run it with sudo (assuming you've installed and configured it
> properly), or you can make it suid root as you've mentioned above

Actually, I had to use suidregister to make it suid for good; otherwise a
cron job changes it back.

> (except I'd be surprised if it's in /usr/local/bin if you installed it
> from the deb package).

Of course.

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Re: LILO

2000-10-20 Thread Ken M. Mevand
i created a /boot partition as the first partition of the disk (about 40M),
and it still doesn't work. is LILO screwed?  whenever i boot, the screen is
filled with "01". i can only boot using a floppy. anyone know how to fix
this?

-ken

- Original Message -
From: Barry Dexter A. Gonzaga <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Friday, October 20, 2000 3:05 AM
Subject: Re: LILO


> me tinks you have to create a small partition < 20M and mount it "/boot"
> on ur 2nd harddrive, or u could use grub @ gnu.org/grub
>
> lilo cant boot from partitions greater that 1024th cylinder.
>
> hte_pagan
> On Thu, Oct 19, 2000 at 06:34:18PM +0800, Ken M. Mevand wrote:
> > hi,
> > just installed "slink". everything is ok, except that LILO is
screwed. i
> > installed LILO in the MBR of hda1. when i reboot the computer, i can't
see
> > the letters "LILO" because the entire screen is filled with strings of
"01".
> > and it just keeps showing "01". so i can boot to windows or linux.
> >
> > here is my harddisk setup:
> > /dev/hda1 - Windows 98 4Gb (default)
> > /dev/hdb  - CD-ROM
> > /dev/hdd1 - Linux "/" 1.5Gb
> > /dev/hdd2 - Linux "/usr" 3Gb
> > /dev/hdd3 - Linux "/var" 3Gb
> > /dev/hdd4 - Linux Swap 32Mb
> >
> > i managed to boot to linux using a boot disk, and reconfigue lilo.conf.
> > however, when i run LILO from /sbin, here is the message :
> >  Warning : BIOS Drive 0x82 may not be accessible
> >
> > here is my lilo.conf :
> >
> > boot=/dev/hda
> > vga=normal
> > timeout=300
> > message=/boot/message
> > prompt
> >
> > other=/dev/hda1
> > label="Windows"
> > table=/dev/hda
> >
> > image=/vmlinuz
> > label="Linux"
> > readonly
> > root=/dev/hdd1
> >
> >
> > thanks
> > -ken
> >
> >
> >
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Help: Major screw-up installing XF86 4.01

2000-10-20 Thread Tim Wood
Hi,
I installed potato on a desktop when it was unstable and have
updated/upgraded since
I then did a cdrom install on my laptop about 5 weeks ago.  

Both have Communicator 4.75 and I loaded Gnome 1.2.2 from woody.

As things had gone reasonably well I decided I would try XF86 4.01 on my
laptop.

I saved X11R6 to /usr/oldx and /etc/X11 to /home/tim olde11.

I did make sure that glibc21 was the right set of binaries and
downloaded them.

It is at this point that things go badly awry. I had a logic failure on
the structure of my saved files - thinking that the subdirectories were
what was saved.

When I had trouble installing 4.01 I decided to go back to 3. I removed
X11R6 and created a new X11R6 and copied the files from /usr /oldx into
the new X11R6. I did not recognise that I now had /usr/X11R6/X11R6/ and
started to move directories!

I ended up deciding that I should delete X11R6 again and start over.
Unfortunately, in all my messing around, I moved /usr/lib into X11R6 and
then deleted it along with the rest of X11R6!

My desktop is linked to my laptop so I installed nfs-server and copied
/usr/lib from my desktop. Taking more care I again copied /usr/oldx back
into /usr and now had what I thoght was the correct structure in X11R6,
but X would still not run. Top showed multiple copies of cpp running.

I was back at square one. So why not try again with 4.01.

The laptop is a Gateway Solo 5150 with the Neomagic (NM2200) video chip
with 2.5MB RAM.

"startx" under 4.10 gives a Parse error in the config file in section
Monitor '"35.15" is not a valid keywird in this setion'.

I would welcome any suggestions as to how I might get myself out of this
mess. As there may be files missing that were under /usr will I lose
everything I have loaded since installation if I re-install from cd?

TIA,
Tim



Re: netscape navigator-v304

2000-10-20 Thread Russ Pitman
Got it and thanks to all for the help.

Just for the record I cut and pasted to the command line of;

ncftp: unknown host
ftp:   unknown host
lynx:  connected but died three times at the end of file
wget:  connected, downloaded the index.html file and quit
links: connected, retrieved the file ok first try.

Maybe wget would have worked ok if I knew more about it, in any event I am
indebted to this list- thank you-.

On Thu, Oct 19, 2000 at 08:46:36PM -0700, Nate Amsden wrote:
> try going here to find it:
> 
> ftp://archive:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/archive/index.html
> 
> nate
> 
> Russ Pitman wrote:
> > 
> > > >netscape-v304-export.x86-unknown-linux-elf.tar.gz
> > > > ---
> > > >
> > > > Trying to download using the address gives,
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > arjay:~# ncftp 
> > > > ftp://archive.netscape.com.archive/navigator/3.01/unix/netscape-v304-export
> > >^
> > > Should be a "/":
> > >
> > > ftp://archive.netscape.com/archive
> > >
> > My bad!!
> > I really  should have seen that :-(  However the error persists
> > 
> > ---
> > arjay:~# ftp 
> > ftp://archive.netscape.com/archive/navigator/3.01/unix/netscape-v304-export.x86-unknown-linux-elf.tar.gz
> > ftp:
> > ftp://archive.netscape.com/archive/navigator/3.01/unix/netscape-v304-export.x86-unknown-linux-elf.tar.gz:
> > Unknown host
> > ftp> exit
> > arjay:~# ncftp
> > ftp://archive.netscape.com/archive/navigator/3.01/unix/netscape-v304-export.x86-unknown-linux-elf.tar.gz
> > arjay:~#
> > ---
> > 
> > Both query the modem, ftp says Unknown host and ncftp tries and quits
> > without comment.
> > 
> > Any further suggestions ?
> > 
> > --
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> > 
> > 
> > 
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Re: Unresolved symbols with pcmcia-source

2000-10-20 Thread Philipp Lehman
On Thu, 19 Oct 2000, Pascal Hos <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>On Fri, Oct 20, 2000 at 12:35:32AM +0200, Philipp Lehman wrote:
>> Now I get unresolved symbols in epic_cb.o when doing a 'depmod
>> -a'. This is merely a cosmetic issue since I don't use this
>> particular module, but I was wondering how to track down the
>> cause and fix it. Any hints on how to go about that would be
>> appreciated. TIA
>
>Did you reboot with the new kernel first?

Sure. BTW: I moved from to 2.2.14 to 2.2.17.

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Re: calculating disk space

2000-10-20 Thread C. Falconer

Multiply them together

C * H * S * kilobytes per sector

sector size is normally 512 bytes/sector.

caffeine:~# fdisk /dev/hda
Disk /dev/hda: 255 heads, 63 sectors, 1048 cylinders
Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 bytes

caffeine:~# bc
255*63*1048*.5
8418060.0  <-- 8ish Gb


At 11:20 PM 10/19/00 +0200, you wrote:

How can one calculate the amount of space a hard disk
provides given only the disk's CHS values?


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Re: Unresolved symbols with pcmcia-source

2000-10-20 Thread wmwaisse
Philipp Lehman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


>On Thu, 19 Oct 2000, Pascal Hos <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>>On Fri, Oct 20, 2000 at 12:35:32AM +0200, Philipp Lehman wrote:
>>> Now I get unresolved symbols in epic_cb.o when doing a 'depmod
>>> -a'. This is merely a cosmetic issue since I don't use this
>>> particular module, but I was wondering how to track down the
>>> cause and fix it. Any hints on how to go about that would be
>>> appreciated. TIA
>>
>>Did you reboot with the new kernel first?
>
>Sure. BTW: I moved from to 2.2.14 to 2.2.17.
>
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  I had the same probleme with 2.2.17 potato on a IBM
Thinkpad 380Z.
  I never had this problem with any 2.2 kernels 
( Slack / Mandrake / RedHat ), with the same xconfig 
options.
  I changed to kernet 2.4.0test6, with the same options, and
Everything is right.


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Re: Setting up a Soundblaster card

2000-10-20 Thread Philipp Lehman
On Fri, 20 Oct 2000, Casey Henderson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>So now I'm totally confused as to how to set up my card in Linux.  I ran
>sndconfig but when I go to set the resource settings, I can't seem to
>get the right combination.  It doesn't even list FF00h as one of the I/O
>port addresses as an option.  I'm guessing I'm going to have to manually
>configure the card.  Can somebody help me out by telling me what modules
>I need to load, and what config files I need to modify, and what lines I
>need to add? I've never had to manually configure a sound card before.
> Just as a side note, when I used Redhat 6.2, I ran sndconfig and chose
>the es1371 sound module and the card worked without me even having to
>configure anything (I sort of stumbled on this by accident -- I just
>tried different cards until I found one that worked).  If somebody could
>help me out with this it would be greatly appreciated.  Thanks.

First, you should recompile the kernel and build sound as
modules. You basically need

CONFIG_SOUND
CONFIG_SOUND_OSS
CONFIG_SOUND_SB

and maybe

CONFIG_SOUND_YM3812

Note that you see the names of the config options by default only
when running 'make config'. If you prefer 'make menuconfig' (like
I do), you need to look up the short help text for each option by
pressing '?' and watch the upper left hand corner.

Your configuration should look like this:

 Sound card support
 OSS sound modules
 100% Sound Blaster compatibles (SB16/32/64, ESS, Jazz16) support
 FM synthesizer (YM3812/OPL-3) support

Then install the modutils package and put the resources in some
file under /etc/modutils/. This is my /etc/modutils/options:

options sound dmabuf=1
options sb esstype=1868 io=0x220 irq=5 dma=1 dma16=-1
options mpu401 io=0x330
options opl3 io=0x388

It's for an ISA based Soundblaster clone (the ESS 1868). For
instructions on these options see the kernel docs in
/usr/src/linux/Documentation/sound.

Finally run "update-modules" and then load the modules:

modprobe sb
modprobe opl3

If it works, put the names of the modules in /etc/modules, one
per line. They will be loaded whenever you boot the system.

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Re: Setting up a Soundblaster card

2000-10-20 Thread Philipp Lehman
On Fri, 20 Oct 2000, Casey Henderson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>My sound card
>is located on IRQ 10.  As for the I/O ports, I got the following
>results:
>
>0220h-022Fh  Sound Blaster 16 PCI Legacy Device
>0320h-032Fh Sound Blaster 16 PCI Legacy Device
>0388h-038Bh Sound Blaster 16 PCI Legacy Device
>FF00h-FF3Fh Creative Sound Blaster 16 PCI
>
>It also says I have the Microsoft MPU Audio Driver (WDM) on 0330h-0331h.
> Under the DMA Channel Usage Summary it says
>(among other things)
>
>01  Sound Blaster 16 PCI Legacy Device
>07 Sound Blaster 16 PCI Legacy Device

I snipped the resources while quoting, sorry. For your card and
setup, try these options:

options sb io=0x220 mpu_io=0x330 irq=10 dma=1 dma16=7
options opl3 io=0x388   

Good luck!

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Re: Unresolved symbols with pcmcia-source

2000-10-20 Thread Andre Berger
Philipp Lehman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> I just upgraded a machine from unstable potato to stable potato
> and among other things, I recompiled the PCMCIA modules provided
> by pcmcia-source.
> 
> Now I get unresolved symbols in epic_cb.o when doing a 'depmod
> -a'. This is merely a cosmetic issue since I don't use this
> particular module, but I was wondering how to track down the
> cause and fix it. Any hints on how to go about that would be
> appreciated. TIA
> 
> -- 
> Philipp Lehman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

I had problems with some of the pcmcia-source .debs, and never had a
working stock version of pcmcia-modules .debs. I got used to fetch the
latest sources from freshmeat.

-- Andre



Re: mouse not working in x

2000-10-20 Thread Matthias Mann
Do You have a serial or a PS/2 mouse? Some poeple told me that X mouse
driver with gpm is not possible by using a PS/2 mouse. Or be they all
mistaken?

Matthias

- Original Message -
From: Walter Tautz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: Matthias Mann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; 
Sent: Thursday, October 19, 2000 5:07 PM
Subject: Re: mouse not working in x


>
> - Original Message -
> From: Bob Edwards <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: 
> Sent: Thursday, October 19, 2000 12:51 AM
> Subject: mouse not working in x
>
>
> >
> > Greetings!
> >
> > Thanks to a kind reply from an earlier question,
> > I now have a running xserver, but I have a different problem.
> > The mouse doesn't work in x.
> >
> > I suspect that i have the mouse set up
> > wrong in X. Question:
> >
> > (1) How can I find out which port linux
> > recognizes my mouse at ?
> >
> > info:
> >
> > PS/2 mouse
> > mouse is on IRQ 12 (according to windows)
> > startup messages state PS/2 port recognized
> > mouse works in windows
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Bob Edwards
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> Do you have installed gpm, the consolse mouse driver? Then remove gpm or
> kill it with gpm -k before starting X cause the X mouse driver can´t work
if
> gpm is running.
>
> Matthias


I have gpm running while X runs, and I don't think it makes any difference?
Most likely
your mouse protocol in XF86Config file has been misconfigured.


-walter


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Re: netscape navigator-v304

2000-10-20 Thread Russ Pitman
On Thu, Oct 19, 2000 at 09:36:48PM -0700, kmself@ix.netcom.com wrote:
> On Fri, Oct 20, 2000 at 12:19:06PM +1100, Russ Pitman ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) 
> wrote:
> 
> > My bad!! 
> > I really  should have seen that :-(  However the error persists 
> > 
> > ---
> > arjay:~# ftp 
> > ftp://archive.netscape.com/archive/navigator/3.01/unix/netscape-v304-export.x86-unknown-linux-elf.tar.gz
> 
> You can't use ftp like that.  It's:
> 
>   $ ftp host.domain.tld
> 
> ...then interactively going to the directory you want and selecting the
> file you're interested in.
> 
> > ftp:
> > ftp://archive.netscape.com/archive/navigator/3.01/unix/netscape-v304-export.x86-unknown-linux-elf.tar.gz:
>^^^
> So which is it you want?  3.01 or 3.04?  I'd suggest matching up
> versions.  I find both the following work:

Actually I wanted -v304, I just assumed that the message from dpkg knew what
was correct, see ERROR in my original post. 

> 
> wget ftp://archive.netscape.com/archive/navigator/3.01/unix/\
> netscape-v301-export.x86-unknown-linux-elf.tar.gz
> 
> wget ftp://archive/navigator/3.04/shipping/english/unix/linux12/\
> navigator_complete/\
> netscape-v304-export.x86-unknown-linux-elf.tar.gz
> 
> 
> Please check your own tpyos, *especially* the second time.

Trying to avoid typos I tried the above on the command line all in
one line. I understand that that is right?

This resulted. For some reason the cut/paste breaks the command line
after the wget displacing the rest of the command line in the process  
I cannot explain that,but I assure you that the command line -was- input
as one line.

So where am I going wrong


arjay:~# wget
ftp://archive.netscape.com/archive/navigator/3.01/unix/netscape-v301-export.x86-unknown-linux-elf.tar.gz
--19:17:31--
ftp://archive.netscape.com:21/archive/navigator/3.01/unix/netscape-v301-export.x86-unknown-linux-elf.tar.gz
   => etscape-v301-export.x86-unknown-linux-elf.tar.gz.1'
Connecting to archive.netscape.com:21...
archive.netscape.com: Host not found
arjay:~#

 
> 
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BTW I did not test both the above commands as I managed to get -v304 before
I read your mail.

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Re: VM: do_try_to_free_pages failed : QUEZACO ??

2000-10-20 Thread wmwaisse

>Sébastien Kalt wrote:
>> Oct  5 14:13:28 kahuna kernel: VM: do_try_to_free_pages failed for dpkg...
>> Oct  5 14:13:29 kahuna last message repeated 2 times
>> Oct  5 14:13:29 kahuna kernel: VM: do_try_to_free_pages failed for kupdate...
>> Oct  5 14:13:29 kahuna kernel: VM: do_try_to_free_pages failed for klogd...
>> Actuellement j'ai setiathome qui tourne en nice 19, je suis sous X, où j'ai 
>> juste 2 eterm, gkrellm, xconsole et xmms. Autrement dit ma machine est pas 
>> franchement surchargée en mémoire.
>> Bon, ça ne fait pas planter ma machine non plus, mais c'est juste que je me 
>> demande si y a pas un problème quelque part.
>
>J'ai eu récemment cette erreur sur une machine très chargée et qui
>n'avait que 32Mo RAM + 32Mo swap. Elle a fini par planter, ou du moins,
>ce message défilait en permanence sur la console et la machine ne
>répondait plus.
>C'etait sur un 2.2.17, le message est dans mm/vmscan.c, et je ne l'ai
>pas vu dans des versions précédentes du kernel, se pourrait-il que les
>changements récents dans la gestion de la VM soient la cause de tout ca
>?
>
>
>--  

 I had the same problem with P300 64 Mo ram
and 128 Mo de Swap.

 La machine etait effectivement un peu surchargee ( 
plusieurs compilations en simultane, dont celles de 
KDE2 ;-||
 La machine n a pas plante, mais la partiction de swap
n etait pas entierement utilisee ( /proc/meminfo ).
 Rien de bien grave mais le message est quelque peu 
inquietant.
 Dans les memes circonstances, je n ai jamais observe ce
cas avant le 2.2.17 potato.


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Re: GnuPG: prblem installing on Woody

2000-10-20 Thread Frederik
On Thu, 19 Oct 2000 kmself@ix.netcom.com wrote:

> Which gpg do you have installed?  Post output of:
> 
> $ gpg --version

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ gpg --version
gpg (GnuPG) 1.0.3
Copyright (C) 2000 Free Software Foundation, Inc.
This program comes with ABSOLUTELY NO WARRANTY.
This is free software, and you are welcome to redistribute it
under certain conditions. See the file COPYING for details.

Home: ~/.gnupg
Supported algorithms:
gpg: /usr/lib/gnupg/rsa: error loading
extension: /usr/lib/gnupg/rsa: cannot open shared object file: No such
file or directory
Cipher: 3DES, CAST5, BLOWFISH, TWOFISH
Pubkey: RSA, RSA-E, RSA-S, ELG-E, DSA, ELG
Hash: MD5, SHA1, RIPEMD160

> $ dpkg -s gnupg
Package: gnupg
Status: install ok installed
Priority: optional
Section: non-US
Installed-Size: 1920
Maintainer: James Troup <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Version: 1.0.3-2
Replaces: gpg-rsa, gpg-rsaref
Provides: gpg-rsa, gpg-rsaref
Depends: libc6 (>= 2.1.94), zlib1g (>= 1:1.1.3), makedev (>= 2.3.1-13)
Suggests: gnupg-doc
Conflicts: gpg-rsa, gpg-rsaref

> $ dpkg -s gpg-rsa

Package: gpg-rsa
Status: purge ok not-installed
Priority: optional
Section: non-US/non-free

> 
> How did you mount the partition (what options), and/or what tools are
> you using to delete the file?  How are you determining that the file
> hasn't in fact been deleted?

in fstab: /dev/hda1 /wailea vfat defaults,uid=1000 0 0
I have however 3 other partitions mounted the same way, and I've never
experienced the same behaviour on any of these. I use rm to remove the
file. The file is gone according to ls, but df doesn't show the added free
space, and copying a file to that partitions errors out due to not enough
free space (although there should have been plenty, after the delete). A
few hours later, everything always is magically solved...

Thanks for the help! (and sorry this is such a long message due to all the
outputs, I didn't know which parts were non-essential to the
problem-solving.

Frederik
 
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Re: GnuPG: prblem installing on Woody

2000-10-20 Thread kmself
On Fri, Oct 20, 2000 at 11:03:55AM +0200, Frederik ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> On Thu, 19 Oct 2000 kmself@ix.netcom.com wrote:
> 
> > Which gpg do you have installed?  Post output of:
> > 
> > $ gpg --version
> 
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ gpg --version
> gpg (GnuPG) 1.0.3
> Copyright (C) 2000 Free Software Foundation, Inc.
> This program comes with ABSOLUTELY NO WARRANTY.
> This is free software, and you are welcome to redistribute it
> under certain conditions. See the file COPYING for details.
> 
> Home: ~/.gnupg
> Supported algorithms:
> gpg: /usr/lib/gnupg/rsa: error loading
> extension: /usr/lib/gnupg/rsa: cannot open shared object file: No such
> file or directory
> Cipher: 3DES, CAST5, BLOWFISH, TWOFISH
> Pubkey: RSA, RSA-E, RSA-S, ELG-E, DSA, ELG
> Hash: MD5, SHA1, RIPEMD160
> 
> > $ dpkg -s gnupg
> Package: gnupg
> Status: install ok installed
> Priority: optional
> Section: non-US
> Installed-Size: 1920
> Maintainer: James Troup <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Version: 1.0.3-2
> Replaces: gpg-rsa, gpg-rsaref
> Provides: gpg-rsa, gpg-rsaref
> Depends: libc6 (>= 2.1.94), zlib1g (>= 1:1.1.3), makedev (>= 2.3.1-13)
> Suggests: gnupg-doc
> Conflicts: gpg-rsa, gpg-rsaref
> 
> > $ dpkg -s gpg-rsa
> 
> Package: gpg-rsa
> Status: purge ok not-installed
> Priority: optional
> Section: non-US/non-free
> 
> > 
> > How did you mount the partition (what options), and/or what tools are
> > you using to delete the file?  How are you determining that the file
> > hasn't in fact been deleted?
> 
> in fstab: /dev/hda1 /wailea vfat defaults,uid=1000 0 0
> I have however 3 other partitions mounted the same way, and I've never
> experienced the same behaviour on any of these. I use rm to remove the
> file. The file is gone according to ls, but df doesn't show the added free
> space, and copying a file to that partitions errors out due to not enough
> free space (although there should have been plenty, after the delete). A
> few hours later, everything always is magically solved...
> 
> Thanks for the help! (and sorry this is such a long message due to all the
> outputs, I didn't know which parts were non-essential to the
> problem-solving.

Better more data than less, particularly if I ask for it.  I've been
getting mightily peeved lately by people who post "how do I solve foo"
to which I reply "post output of "...which never happens.
I'm going to start killfiling idiots like that real soon, then I'm going
to take out hits on them

But enough of that.

It looks like you've got gnupg installed and gpg-rsa isn't.   I do note
that you've got a more current gnupg than I:  1.0.3-2 vs. 1.0.2-1 on my
box (Woody).  Hmmm

I don't know why you're getting failed deps when you try installing
gpg-rsa.  You might try running a "dpkg --configure -a" to try to
configure any pending packages, or just try installing again.  If that
fails, or maybe before trying it, give a shot at:

$ apt-get update && apt-get install gpg-rsa 

...and if that fails:

$ apt-get install gpg-rsa --force-depends

...to force the dependency.


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Re: mouse not working in x

2000-10-20 Thread Kerstin Hoef-Emden

Hi,

On Fri, 20 Oct 2000, Matthias Mann wrote:

> Do You have a serial or a PS/2 mouse? Some poeple told me that X mouse
> driver with gpm is not possible by using a PS/2 mouse. Or be they all
> mistaken?

It is possible to use a PS/2 mouse in X11 without stopping gpm. You just
have to modify the XF86Config in that the X11 does not use its own
drivers but the gpm-files. (I have to look up the files to tell the
details. I am not sitting at my Linux compi right now.)


Regards,

Kerstin


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Re: LyX on woody crashes X server

2000-10-20 Thread Joachim Trinkwitz
OK, seems I should give some more informations: I use a recent woody
with XFree 3.3.6-11 and LyX 1.1.4-7, X server is SVGA (window manager:
sawfish-gnome 0.31.1-2 on the newest Debian-only Gnome -- not the
Helix distribution). Hardware: a Matrox card MGA G400 AGP with 16
MB RAM, the monitor is a fairly expensive Nokia 447PRO.

The same thing happens on another PC with a Matrox Millenium 8 MB and
an EIZO F56 (same software versions).

As previously said, LyX is basically working, it only crashes and gets
me out of X when it loads many fonts in the X server.

Hoping for help,
joachim



Re: mouse not working in x

2000-10-20 Thread Glyn Millington
On Fri, Oct 20, 2000 at 12:08:51PM +0200, thus spake Kerstin Hoef-Emden:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> On Fri, 20 Oct 2000, Matthias Mann wrote:
> 
> > Do You have a serial or a PS/2 mouse? Some poeple told me that X mouse
> > driver with gpm is not possible by using a PS/2 mouse. Or be they all
> > mistaken?
> 
> It is possible to use a PS/2 mouse in X11 without stopping gpm. You just

Indeed - the relevant section of my XF86Config file reads



# **
# Pointer section
# **

Section "Pointer"
Protocol"PS/2"
Device  "/dev/gpmdata"

HTH

Glyn M

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Re: VM: do_try_to_free_pages failed : QUEZACO ??

2000-10-20 Thread Mike Merten
On Fri, Oct 20, 2000 at 05:07:26AM -0400, wmwaisse wrote:
> 
> >Sébastien Kalt wrote:
> >> Oct  5 14:13:28 kahuna kernel: VM: do_try_to_free_pages failed for dpkg...
> >> Oct  5 14:13:29 kahuna last message repeated 2 times
> >> Oct  5 14:13:29 kahuna kernel: VM: do_try_to_free_pages failed for 
> >> kupdate...
> >> Oct  5 14:13:29 kahuna kernel: VM: do_try_to_free_pages failed for klogd...
> >> Actuellement j'ai setiathome qui tourne en nice 19, je suis sous X, où 
> >> j'ai juste 2 eterm, gkrellm, xconsole et xmms. Autrement dit ma machine 
> >> est pas franchement surchargée en mémoire.
> >> Bon, ça ne fait pas planter ma machine non plus, mais c'est juste que je 
> >> me demande si y a pas un problème quelque part.
> >
> >J'ai eu récemment cette erreur sur une machine très chargée et qui
> >n'avait que 32Mo RAM + 32Mo swap. Elle a fini par planter, ou du moins,
> >ce message défilait en permanence sur la console et la machine ne
> >répondait plus.
> >C'etait sur un 2.2.17, le message est dans mm/vmscan.c, et je ne l'ai
> >pas vu dans des versions précédentes du kernel, se pourrait-il que les
> >changements récents dans la gestion de la VM soient la cause de tout ca
> >?
> 
>  I had the same problem with P300 64 Mo ram
> and 128 Mo de Swap.
> 
>  La machine etait effectivement un peu surchargee ( 
> plusieurs compilations en simultane, dont celles de 
> KDE2 ;-||
>  La machine n a pas plante, mais la partiction de swap
> n etait pas entierement utilisee ( /proc/meminfo ).
>  Rien de bien grave mais le message est quelque peu 
> inquietant.
>  Dans les memes circonstances, je n ai jamais observe ce
> cas avant le 2.2.17 potato.

Hmm.. would somebody care to translate this?  I seem to be having
the same problem...

Mike

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# bye

2000-10-20 Thread makoto sugimoto
# bye



sources.list, installing via nfs.

2000-10-20 Thread hypo crite
Hi all, hi will!


Thanks for crafting that apt-get-intro! It´s helpfull,
but I still have probs with my sources.list. Even
after reading the man page(s)and the files in
/usr/doc/apt/examples.
What I want to do sounds simple, but I´am more and
more  confused now. I copied my six patatos on a
harddisk and can access via ftp or nfs. So, I have one
machine witch provides several daemons (downstairs)
and another one wich provides the six copied debian
CDs. That´s because I´m too lazy to go there as a DJ
for installing something.
When I choose the nfs-mounted directory, then
apt-setup can´t find a lot of things. Of course it
can´t, because I dont´t now how to arrange the data
proper. Is there any documentation concerning that? Or
any hints?
Furthermore I tried to access a debian-ftp-mirror. I
failed, cause I´m behind a proxy. I didn´t really
understood the part with the ftp-proxy in the
examples-section. Where do I configure the proxy-port?

All right, enough for now. 
I´ll be gratefull for any help.
TIA,

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Re: LyX on woody crashes X server

2000-10-20 Thread Jeronimo Pellegrini
:: Joachim Trinkwitz writes:

> OK, seems I should give some more informations: I use a recent woody
> with XFree 3.3.6-11 and LyX 1.1.4-7, X server is SVGA (window manager:
> sawfish-gnome 0.31.1-2 on the newest Debian-only Gnome -- not the
> Helix distribution). Hardware: a Matrox card MGA G400 AGP with 16
> MB RAM, the monitor is a fairly expensive Nokia 447PRO.

I run the same versions of X and LyX... And the same X server.

> The same thing happens on another PC with a Matrox Millenium 8 MB and
> an EIZO F56 (same software versions).

Did you try switching to a different window manager? Does LyX work if
you try using blackbox or WindowMaker, or some other?

> As previously said, LyX is basically working, it only crashes and gets
> me out of X when it loads many fonts in the X server.

Which font server are you running?

I just realized that I'm running XFree86 3.3.6-11, but with the font
server from X 4.0.1:

$ dpkg -l xfs*
Desired=Unknown/Install/Remove/Purge/Hold
| Status=Not/Installed/Config-files/Unpacked/Failed-config/Half-installed
|/ Err?=(none)/Hold/Reinst-required/X=both-problems (Status,Err: uppercase=bad)
||/ Name Version  Description
+++---
ii  xfs  4.0.1-0phase2v15 X font server
pn  xfs-xtt (no description available)
ii  xfstt1.1  TrueType Font Server for X11


I had tried X 4.0.1, and then switched back to 3.3.6, but it seems
that some packages remained... I don't know if this package is too
different from the one which came with 3.3.6, but it seems to work
here.

Maybe you'd like to try getting the newer .deb of xfs at
http://www.debian.org/~branden and install it by hand?

Hope this helps...
J.

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OFF-Topic : UDMA & BP6 -- it works.

2000-10-20 Thread Debian User Jean-Baptiste Note


Hi all.
I have been using a Abit BP6 for quite a long time now, and needed the
UDMA interfaces.
I have 2 IBM 5400tr/min, 15 Gb hdd connected to ide2.
Yet, as many people did, I had an awful lot of problems setting up
UDMA on this card (autotune would freeze the box at bootup, on Linux as
well as on w2k) but I can say now that I have gotten it to work.
Well, here is what i deed : recompiled kernel 2.4.0-test9 with ACPI
on and support for the HPT366 ;
deactivated APM and activated ACPI in bios;
set ide2=noautotune and ide3=noautotune as boot parameters for the
kernel ;
and, most important, unplugged the computer (completely, ie, it was
severed from all power source) for one whole night.
Then, I let the system boot, and activate by hand dma with hdparm for
/dev/hde and /dev/hdf.
Strange enough, when I do not unplug the computer long enough, dma works
well with /dev/hdf, but give me the hated message :
timeout waiting for DMA, and a complete freeze, when applied to /dev/hde.
That's all. I read many users had these kind of difficulties, but this
is really strange a behavior. All I can say is that my system is really
very stable, under a heavy load of IO.
 
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# bye

2000-10-20 Thread makoto sugimoto
# bye



Re: fetchmail

2000-10-20 Thread Anthony Campbell
On 19 Oct 2000, Allan M. Wind wrote:
> On 2000-10-19 09:40:41, Anthony Campbell wrote:
> 
> > I think I *may* have fixed it by changing the order of entries in
> > /etc/hosts. I had 127.0.0.1 local host first and other entries later;
> > now  I have:
> > 
> > 127.0.0.1   acampbell.cix.co.uk
> > 127.0.0.1   ac
> > 127.0.0.1   localhost
> 
> That seems broken, shouldn't it be:
> 
> 127.0.0.1 acampbell.cix.co.uk ac localhost
> 
> 
> /Allan
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> 

I don't know. It seems to work both ways.

Anthony

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Re: Gradebook in Debian Potato 2.2

2000-10-20 Thread Norbert de Jonge
> > I have problems installing Ggradebook (Gnu
> software), it complains that
> > some libraries for gtk+ are absent.
> 
> Installing the "libgtk-dev" package should do the
> trick.
> 
> # apt-get install libgtk-dev

Or try reading this:

http://www.geocrawler.com/archives/3/3695/2000/8/0/4272073/

Sincerely,

Norbert de Jonge

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Re: GnuPG: problem installing on Woody

2000-10-20 Thread Frederik
Well, after I did an apt-get upgrade this morning, I saw GnuPG being
upgraded (Version: 1.0.4-1), and I hoped my problem would have solved
itself. It didn't.

So, what I did next was: apt-get -b gpg-rsa, which downloads and builds 2
packages, gpg-rsa and gpg-idea (both _2.1.1).
Installing these didn't work (using dpkg -i package), so I did dpkg -i
--force-conflicts packages.  As could have been expected, that wasn't the
magical solution either:

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/.gnupg$ gpg
gpg: selected cipher algorithm is invalid
gpg: selected digest algorithm is invalid

Normally, gnupg should provide gpg-rsa, if I can rely on dpkg, so I'll try
to play around with that idea in mind a little more, but I'm not very
optimistic...

Frederik
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Windows 9x/NT cvs client accessing Linux cvs server

2000-10-20 Thread Wilson H Yau
Could anyone suggest to me which is the best CVS client for Windows
9x/NT workstation to access a Linux CVS Server?

Thanks for your help.



Re: GnuPG: problem installing on Woody

2000-10-20 Thread Frederik
On Fri, 20 Oct 2000, Frederik wrote:

> Normally, gnupg should provide gpg-rsa, if I can rely on dpkg, so I'll try
> to play around with that idea in mind a little more, but I'm not very
> optimistic...

In reply to myself: everything seems to be OK now. I purged everything
relating to gnupg, gpg-rsa and gpg-idea, deleted every remaining
configuration/documentation/... and reinstalled gnupg.
This worked.

Sorry for the trouble!

Frederik 
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Re: Windows 9x/NT cvs client accessing Linux cvs server

2000-10-20 Thread Danie Roux
WinCVS!

On Fri, Oct 20, 2000 at 02:26:37PM +0100, Wilson H Yau wrote:
> Could anyone suggest to me which is the best CVS client for Windows
> 9x/NT workstation to access a Linux CVS Server?
> 
> Thanks for your help.
> 
> 
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Re: Windows 9x/NT cvs client accessing Linux cvs server

2000-10-20 Thread patrick . charbonnier



Have a look at http://www.wincvs.org



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Could anyone suggest to me which is the best CVS client for Windows
9x/NT workstation to access a Linux CVS Server?

Thanks for your help.


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c2ps and page size

2000-10-20 Thread Jeronimo Pellegrini

Hello;

  I've been trying to use c2ps to print some C++ programs, but the
  generated page is always larger than the area which my printer can
  print, so I lose part of the page.

  The printer is an Epson Stylus Color 850, and the version of c2ps is
  that on woody (4.0-3).

  /etc/papersize says "a4", and when I run c2ps I also use "-p a4",
  and the paper I'm using is a4!

  Is there some trick I can use, or should I file a bug? I believe it
  should be possible to tell the program to shorten the printed
  area...

Thanks,
J.

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helix gnome & WindowMaker

2000-10-20 Thread stefan goeman
Hello,

After an upgrade (and a reboot) I have problems running WindowMaker under Helix 
Gnome.
Gnome complains saying running a non gnome compliant windowmanger and 
WindowMaker does not start and I can't use Gnome either. I have to delete my 
.gnome directory so that the sawfish windowmanager is being used.

Anybody else noticed this problem?

Greetings,

Stefan Goeman
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Re: exim help needed (fwd)

2000-10-20 Thread timmy
On Thu, Oct 19, 2000 at 01:27:01PM -0700, Krzys Majewski wrote:
> > > Dunno, what's that? I want my mail going to/from my school server. 
> > 
> > exim calls this a "smarthost".  Rerun eximconfig and two of your canned
> > configuration options will be 
> > 
> >  (2) Internet site using smarthost: You receive Internet mail on this 
> >  machine, either directly by SMTP or by running a utility such as 
> >  fetchmail. Outgoing mail is sent using a smarthost. optionally with
> >  addresses rewritten. This is probably what you want for a dialup
> >  system.
> > 
> >  (3) Satellite system: All mail is sent to another machine, called a "smart 
> >  host" for delivery. root and postmaster mail is delivered according 
> >  to /etc/aliases. No mail is received locally.
> > 
> > Choose one of these (probably the first) and, if your school will let you 
> > use
> > them as a smarthost, you should be set.
> 
> I did this.  Mutt claims to send  my mail (in other words  it does not
> complain),  but  the mail  is  never sent.  I  don't  see anything  in
> /var/spool/mqueue, though  perhaps I shouldn't. Maybe  someone who has
> this working  can just send me  the relevant config  files, for either
> exim  or   any  other  MTA  (though  preferably   not  the  gargantuan
> sendmail). It would really be nice to be able to send mail, sigh.. 
> chris

mutt will by default pipe its message to /usr/lib/sendmail (?)
and that will send the mail to the smtp server or whatever.
I have ssmtp and a smtpd server i made, so ssmtp (which has
/usr/lib/sendmail and /usr/sbin/ssmtp i think) sends the smtp
data to my mail host which is localhost and my smtpd sends it to my
smarthost.






ferret on debian

2000-10-20 Thread Karsten Bolding
Hello

There is a program used extensively in the oceanographic and
meteorological community called ferret -
http://ferret.wrc.noaa.gov/Ferret/.

I would like to run this under debian/woody - but run into problems. I
have to install 'termcap-comp' but it's not enough - doing a strace
ferret I get - (only the last part shown)

open("/lib/libm.so.6", O_RDONLY)= 3
fstat(3, {st_mode=S_IFREG|0644, st_size=117352, ...}) = 0
read(3, "\177ELF\1\1\1\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\3\0\3\0\1\0\0\0\240I\0"...,
4096) = 409
6
old_mmap(NULL, 118648, PROT_READ|PROT_EXEC, MAP_PRIVATE, 3, 0) =
0x40129000
mprotect(0x40145000, 3960, PROT_NONE)   = 0
old_mmap(0x40145000, 4096, PROT_READ|PROT_WRITE, MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_FIXED,
3, 0x1b0
00) = 0x40145000
close(3)= 0
open("/lib/libc.so.5", O_RDONLY)= 3
fstat(3, {st_mode=S_IFREG|0644, st_size=586720, ...}) = 0
read(3, "\177ELF\1\1\1\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\3\0\3\0\1\0\0\0|-\1\000"...,
4096) = 40
96
old_mmap(NULL, 776828, PROT_READ|PROT_EXEC, MAP_PRIVATE, 3, 0) =
0x40146000
mprotect(0x401cb000, 232060, PROT_NONE) = 0
old_mmap(0x401cb000, 24576, PROT_READ|PROT_WRITE, MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_FIXED,
3, 0x84
000) = 0x401cb000
old_mmap(0x401d1000, 207484, PROT_READ|PROT_WRITE,
MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_FIXED|MAP_ANO
NYMOUS, -1, 0) = 0x401d1000
close(3)= 0
old_mmap(NULL, 4096, PROT_READ|PROT_WRITE, MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_ANONYMOUS,
-1, 0) = 0
x40204000
munmap(0x40017000, 20409)   = 0
getpid()= 6625
brk(0)  = 0x9348a64
brk(0x9348c24)  = 0x9348c24
brk(0)  = 0x9348c24
old_mmap(NULL, 2097152, PROT_NONE,
MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_ANONYMOUS|MAP_NORESERVE, -1,
0) = 0x40205000
munmap(0x40205000, 1028096) = 0
munmap(0x4040, 20480)   = 0
mprotect(0x4030, 0, PROT_READ|PROT_WRITE) = 0
--- SIGSEGV (Segmentation fault) ---
+++ killed by SIGSEGV +++

Does anybody have a clue

BTW I know it works on Redhat 6.2 - so not related to glibc (I think).

Karsten

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Help: Replacing linuxconf user group & startup services

2000-10-20 Thread Jonathan Gift
Hi,

I was told recently that real men don't use linuxconf. Well, since I don't
want to want to fool around with something so fundemental as my masculinity,
I figure I had better try without. I've a new install anyway and I was only
using linuxconf for two things:

1. To change my default group from jgift to users
2. To Switch off unneeded services

How can I do this from the console then?

I used: adduser jgift users

But I figure this just added me to the group and didn't make jgift's default
group users as I want.
As for the services, does it really mean poking around the init file hoping
to get lucky?

Thanks,

Jonathan



RE: debian-user-digest Digest V100 #297

2000-10-20 Thread Chris Hansen
I have a small problem, I would like to be taken off the
debian users list but when I try to unsubscribe I do not find my email
address on the list that I can choose from .  If anyone can help please let
me know. 
Great operating system, just made the mistake of signing up
for the users list.
Christopher Hansen
Operations Administrator
Continental Resources
Wooddale, IL. 60191

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RE: Wanted: Advice on Video Cards

2000-10-20 Thread Chris Gray
Thanks,

Yes, I discovered after I posted that my problem seems to be that at home
I'm still using slink (getting ready to switch to woody) and between slink
and potato Savage4 support was added to the SVGA server.  So I may hold off
on changing the video card, although I'm getting the itch for a TNT2 card
for the Windows side.

Chris


-Original Message-
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Sent: Wednesday, October 18, 2000 8:28 PM
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: Wanted: Advice on Video Cards

I'm also using "a cheap S3 Savage4 based AGP card" and it works for just
south
of fine. Note however that I'm not a gamer and all the graphics I do is GIMP
(the default potato version). I use the SVGA server for it (available on the
install CD). No crashes thus far here.

On Tue, 17 Oct 2000, Chris Gray wrote:
> On my home box I run Windows 98 for games and Debian(Woody) for serious
> (non-graphics-intensive) work.  I want to upgrade my video card.  I'm more
> interested in something that will be straightforward to install on both
> platforms and will give respectable performance for a while to come.  I
want
> to avoid the situation I'm in now.  I have a cheap S3 Savage4 based AGP
card
> for which there is no X server in the Debian packages.  I can get X
servers
> elsewhere but on exit they crash my system.
>
> At the moment I'm leaning toward an ATI Fury.  I'd be grateful for any
> advice, opinions, or caveats.
>
> AdTHANKSvance
> Chris
>
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Running procmail on an existing mailbox

2000-10-20 Thread Dwayne C . Litzenberger
How can I run an already-flooded mailbox through procmail's filters,
preferrably supporting both maildir and mbox input formats?

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need to downgrade libc6!

2000-10-20 Thread Jaume Teixi
I've upgraded libc6 to 2.1.95 but need to downgrade to 2.1.3 due to
connection to a database

I've stable on sources.list but apt tells:

# apt-get -f install --reinstall libc6
Reading Package Lists... Done
Building Dependency Tree... Done
Sorry, re-installation of libc6 is not possible, it cannot be downloaded

how to fix this ?

thanks,
jaume.



Re: Setting up a Soundblaster card

2000-10-20 Thread Thomas Wegner
H Casey! Am Fre, 20 Okt 2000 schrieb Casey Henderson:

> So now I'm totally confused as to how to set up my card in Linux.  I ran
> sndconfig but when I go to set the resource settings, I can't seem to
> get the right combination.  It doesn't even list FF00h as one of the I/O
> port addresses as an option.  I'm guessing I'm going to have to manually
> configure the card.  Can somebody help me out by telling me what modules
> I need to load, and what config files I need to modify, and what lines I
> need to add? I've never had to manually configure a sound card before.
Have you installed the soundsupport into the kernel? If not, you must do so
(take a look at the kernel-HOWTO). You must enable soudsupport in the
kernelconfig and you can choose your special hardware and special settings.
After that you have to boot with the new kernel.
Look at the startmessages for soundmodule. You can type "lsmod" at the
commandline to proof the loaded modules. A list should appeare with sound
or soundcore. When not type "insmod sound" at the commandline and the look
what happens. I hope will get a correct message.
 
Good luck..Tommi
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Re: Running procmail on an existing mailbox

2000-10-20 Thread Pann McCuaig
On Fri, Oct 20, 2000 at 07:50, Dwayne C . Litzenberger wrote:

> How can I run an already-flooded mailbox through procmail's filters,
> preferrably supporting both maildir and mbox input formats?

man formail

Luck,
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Re: exim help needed (fwd)

2000-10-20 Thread Moritz Schulte
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

> mutt will by default pipe its message to /usr/lib/sendmail (?)

from muttrc(5):

   [...]
   sendmail
  Type: path
  Default: "/usr/sbin/sendmail -oem -oi"

  Specifies the program and arguments used to deliver
  mail sent by Mutt.
   [...]

That's correct, 'cause /usr/sbin/sendmail is a link to /usr/sbin/exim,
if you're using Exim as your MTA.

> and that will send the mail to the smtp server or whatever.

This *is* your MTA; Mutt will just "give" it to your MTA, not "send"
it (if that makes it clearer). Then it's the MTA's job to actually
sent it out somewhere...

> I have ssmtp and a smtpd server i made, so ssmtp (which has
> /usr/lib/sendmail and /usr/sbin/ssmtp i think) sends the smtp
> data to my mail host which is localhost and my smtpd sends it to my
> smarthost.

Oh, i just read the package description of 'ssmtp'. Ehm, it has
nothing to do with Exim (?). ssmtp is an own, very simple MTA, which
just delivers mail.

moritz
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RE: linux + its size

2000-10-20 Thread Fuad



HI,
I like to know if it will fit on a 200mb hard disk 
and if the installation supports a SCSI hard disk
 
could u tell me?
 
fua


problem setting uplibglide

2000-10-20 Thread John Covici
I got the following error during my upgrade from potatoe to woody this
morning.

Setting up libglide2 (2000.08.08) ...
Undefined subroutine &Debian::DebConf::Client::ConfModule::version called at 
/usr/lib/glide2/libglide2.conf line 29.
dpkg: error processing libglide2 (--configure):
 subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 29
dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of glide2-bin:
 glide2-bin depends on libglide2; however:
  Package libglide2 is not configured yet.
dpkg: error processing glide2-bin (--configure):
 dependency problems - leaving unconfigured
dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of glide2-base:
 glide2-base depends on libglide2; however:
  Package libglide2 is not configured yet.
 glide2-base depends on glide2-bin; however:
  Package glide2-bin is not configured yet.
dpkg: error processing glide2-base (--configure):
 dependency problems - leaving unconfigured
Errors were encountered while processing:
 libglide2
 glide2-bin
 glide2-base
and here is the conf file they were talking about.

#!/usr/bin/perl -w
# Copyright (C) 2000  Zephaniah E. Hull.
# This code is under the GNU GPL, see /usr/share/common-licenses/GPL.

use strict;
use Debian::DebConf::Client::ConfModule;
# This is not elegant, nor clean, it was written at 4am and works.

main();

my (%types, %type_map);
BEGIN {
%types = (
"Voodoo"=> "sst1",
"Voodoo 2"  => "cvg",
"Voodoo Banshee"=> "h3",
"Voodoo Banshee [Velocity 100]" => "h3",
"Voodoo 3"  => "h3",
);
%type_map = (
"sst1"  => "/usr/lib/glide2/libglide_sst1.so.2.46",
"cvg"   => "/usr/lib/glide2/libglide_cvg.so.2.53",
"h3"=> "/usr/lib/glide2/libglide_h3.so.2.60",
);
}

sub main {
my (@cards, $driver);
Debian::DebConf::Client::ConfModule::version('2.0');
Debian::DebConf::Client::ConfModule::title('glide2 configuration');

@cards = get_devices();
if ($#cards == -1) {
my ($choice);
Debian::DebConf::Client::ConfModule::input('critical', 
'libglide2/no_card');
Debian::DebConf::Client::ConfModule::go();
$choice = Debian::DebConf::Client::ConfModule::get('libglide2/no_card');
if ($choice eq "true") {
Debian::DebConf::Client::ConfModule::input('critical', 
'libglide2/driver');
Debian::DebConf::Client::ConfModule::go();
} else {
#   Debian::DebConf::Client::ConfModule::stop();
exit(1);
}
} elsif ($#cards == 0) {
Debian::DebConf::Client::ConfModule::set('libglide2/driver', 
${$cards[0]}{'Driver'});
Debian::DebConf::Client::ConfModule::go();
} else {
my (%card, $card, $choices, %choices, $choice, $tmp);

for $card (@cards) {
%card = %$card;
if (defined($card{'SVendor'})) {
$tmp = sprintf("%s %s (%s)", $card{'SVendor'}, 
$card{'SDevice'}, $card{'Device'});
} else {
$tmp = sprintf("3Dfx %s", $card{'Device'});
}
$tmp =~ s/,//g;

$choices{$tmp} = $card{'Driver'};
}

$choices = join(', ', keys(%choices));
Debian::DebConf::Client::ConfModule::subst('libglide2/card', 'choices', 
$choices);
Debian::DebConf::Client::ConfModule::input('high', 'libglide2/card');
Debian::DebConf::Client::ConfModule::go();
$choice = Debian::DebConf::Client::ConfModule::get('libglide2/card');

$tmp = $choices{$choice};
Debian::DebConf::Client::ConfModule::set('libglide2/driver', $tmp);
}

#Debian::DebConf::Client::ConfModule::stop();
}

sub select_device {
my ($type, $file, $target);
$target = '/usr/lib/libglide.so.2';
$type = shift;

if (!defined($type_map{$type})) { die("No mapping for type " . $type); }
$file = $type_map{$type};
if (!-f $file) { die($file . " does not exist."); }

if (-e $target) {
if (-l $target) { unlink($target); } else {
die($target . " exists but is NOT a symlink!")
}
}
symlink($file, "/usr/lib/libglide.so.2");
}

sub get_devices {
my ($raw, $dev, $line, $tmp, @cards);
$raw = `lspci -vm`;


foreach $dev (split(/\n\n/, $raw)) {
my (%info);
foreach $line (split(/\n/, $dev)) {
if($line =~ /^(Class|Vendor|Device|SVendor|SDevice|Rev):\s+(.*)$/){
$info{$1} = $2;
}
}
if (defined($types{$info{'Device'}})) {
$info{"Driver"} = $types{$info{"Device"}};
push(@cards, \%info);
}
}

return @cards;
}

Now I am not sure what is going on so how do I fix this?

Any assistance would be appreciated.

-- 
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Stormix and Brokerage Fees

2000-10-20 Thread Bill Ramsey
If you live in the US, be aware that if you order anything from
Stormix you will charged a brokerage fee when the package is
delivered.

I ordered the deluxe boxed set from Stormix: 
Storm Linux 2000 Deluxe Edition  69.951  0.00 
 GST: 4.89
   Tax Total: 0.00
 Shipping: Express - USA: 21.99
 Grand Total: 91.94

Imagine my surprise when the UPS guy tells me that I owe him $38 in
brokerage fees !! I refused the package and I've canceled my order. I
don't need stormix that bad.

I'll just have to learn how to install Debian the hard way -- I've
tried 3 times so far : slink and now potato. With Potato I've gotten
X-Windows up - but I can't connect to the internet (WVDial fails with
my ISP) and I can't print (the LP module wouldn't install during the
installation).

Just to let everyone know about the brokerage fees.

Bill

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Help with groups, please.

2000-10-20 Thread Steve Simons
I want to give full access to /var/www/* to members of the group 'authors'.  I 
created the group with 'groupadd authors', added steve to the group with 
'gpasswd -a steve authors' and changed the group of the files with 'chgrp 
authors /var/www/*'.  After logging out and in as steve, why do I get 
permission denied errors?



Re: OT: Cross-platform document format?

2000-10-20 Thread Kent West
"J.H.M. Dassen (Ray)" wrote:
> 
> On Wed, Oct 18, 2000 at 13:52:04 -0500, Kent West wrote:
> [HTML stripped - this is a mailing list, not a website]

Sorry; I was using Mozilla M18, and my address book entry is set to not
send HTML to this list; apparently the address book has problems (more
than just this problem; it seems to me to be way broken).

> >Is there an open document format that is widely available on Windows, Mac,
> >and Linux, that can do all the stuff that the proprietary formats (.DOC,
> >.WPD, etc) can do (such as graphics, tables, columns, font/attributes,
> >indenting, justification, super/subscripts, footnotes, endnotes, math
> >formulas, etc)?
> 
> LaTeX or Lout (combined with say xfig or dia for graphics) may fit the bill,
> but they assume a certain level of user sophistication, as they're primarily
> typesetting systems, rather than word processors. A frontend like LyX can be
> very useful.

Thanks for the response. I was looking for a common document format, so
that the students on campus would quit turning their homework in as .DOC
format. I don't think I'm going to get the students to give up MS-Word
on MS-Windows to learn LaTeX, etc, although in an ideal world

Thanks anyway!

> HTH,
> Ray
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Re: exim help needed (fwd)

2000-10-20 Thread Keith G. Murphy
Moritz Schulte wrote:
> 
> 
> Oh, I've an idea. Some mail servers (for example GMX's ones) filter
> (yes, they just kick them out) mails, which have some header wrong
> header entries. For example, if you have an "X-Sender:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]" entry, it gets filtered out by GMX,
> IIRC. Try sending yourself a mail local, just to
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] Does this mail arrive? Can you see, wether it has
> "bad" headers?
> 
Also, perhaps it doesn't like your sending domain name.  Try changing
the value of qualify_domain in exim.conf, for example, to your school's
own domain name.



Re: Help with groups, please.

2000-10-20 Thread Ethan Benson
On Fri, Oct 20, 2000 at 03:22:33PM +0100, Steve Simons wrote:
> I want to give full access to /var/www/* to members of the group
> 'authors'.  I created the group with 'groupadd authors', added steve
> to the group with 'gpasswd -a steve authors' and changed the group
> of the files with 'chgrp authors /var/www/*'.  After logging out and
> in as steve, why do I get permission denied errors?

chmod g+w /var/www 

you might want to make it setgid so all files created there have group
authors too:

chmod 2775 /var/www

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Re: helix gnome & WindowMaker

2000-10-20 Thread G Mc.Pherson
Hi Stefan,

On Fri, 20 Oct 2000, stefan goeman wrote:

> Hello,
> 
> After an upgrade (and a reboot) I have problems running WindowMaker under 
> Helix Gnome.
> Gnome complains saying running a non gnome compliant windowmanger and 
> WindowMaker does
> not start and I can't use Gnome either. I have to delete my .gnome 
> directory so that the sawfish windowmanager is being used.
> 
> Anybody else noticed this problem?

  Sort of. Upgrading wm-properties-capplet to version 1.2.2 has caused
helix-gnome to fail when it's loading from gdm manager. I've posted a bug
report with helix about it. 

Gord



Re: Java JSP Tomcat

2000-10-20 Thread Gregory Guthrie

At 11:59 AM 10/19/2000 +0200, Marcus Crafter wrote:


The package is already availabe at http://master.debian.org/~sgybas/tomcat/.
Please read README.Debian and the Debian-Java mailing list archive for
reasons why it's not yet in the official Debian archive.


I'm still stuck on installing this;

tomcat depends on libxerces-java
libxerces-java does not appear to be available
tomcat depends on libservlet2.2-java
libservlet2.2-java does not appear to be available

Help?

Greg


-
omega:/tmp# apt-cache show tomcat
Package: tomcat
Status: deinstall ok config-files
Priority: optional
Section: contrib/web
Installed-Size: 1171
Maintainer: Stefan Gybas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Version: 3.1.99b6-1
Depends: jdk1.1-dev | ibm-jdk1.1-installer | j2sdk1.3, libxerces-java, 
libservlet2.2-java

Conffiles:
 /etc/init.d/tomcat newconffile
 /etc/tomcat/server.xml newconffile
 /etc/tomcat/web.xml newconffile
 /etc/tomcat/tomcat-users.xml newconffile
 /etc/tomcat/tomcat.policy newconffile
Description: Java Servlet 2.2 engine with JSP 1.1 support
 Jakarta-Tomcat is the reference implementation for the Java Servlet 2.2 and
 JavaServer Pages (JSP) 1.1 specification from the Apache Jakarta project.
 .
 For more information about Tomcat please take a look at the Tomcat
 home page at http://jakarta.apache.org/tomcat/index.html.
 .
 The official Servet 2.2 and JSP 1.1 specifications can be found at
 http://java.sun.com/products/servlets and http://java.sun.com/products/jsp.

omega:/tmp#


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URGENT: need to downgrade libc6!

2000-10-20 Thread Jaume Teixi
It's right if I download potato versions (the ones I want) of libc6,
lbnss-db, libc6-dev, locales
then apt-get remove --purge of unstable versions (the ones I don't want)

dpkg -i each_potato_pkg.deb

thanks,
jaume





posted message -
I've upgraded libc6 to 2.1.95 but need to downgrade to 2.1.3 due to
connection to a database

I've stable on sources.list but apt tells:

# apt-get -f install --reinstall libc6
Reading Package Lists... Done
Building Dependency Tree... Done
Sorry, re-installation of libc6 is not possible, it cannot be downloaded

how to fix this ?

thanks,
jaume.



Re: Java JSP Tomcat

2000-10-20 Thread Marcus Crafter
On Fri, 20 Oct 2000, Gregory Guthrie wrote:

> At 11:59 AM 10/19/2000 +0200, Marcus Crafter wrote:
> 
> >The package is already availabe at http://master.debian.org/~sgybas/tomcat/.
> >Please read README.Debian and the Debian-Java mailing list archive for
> >reasons why it's not yet in the official Debian archive.
> 
> I'm still stuck on installing this;
> 
>  tomcat depends on libxerces-java
>  libxerces-java does not appear to be available
>  tomcat depends on libservlet2.2-java
>  libservlet2.2-java does not appear to be available

What's your /etc/apt/sources.list look like. xerces and servlet2.2 are
potato/woody packages. Are you still running slink ?

Stefan, what's your thoughts ?

Cheers,

M.
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rlogin and rsh for potato?

2000-10-20 Thread Tom Kuiper
I just installed potato (2.2) on a new server and tried unsuccessfully to set
up a daily rdist to it from an old machine running bo (2.0).  After rdist
failed, I discovered that rsh, which rdist uses by default, (and rlogin) are
seriously disabled under potato.  I guess it's a security feature. Not only are
the services disabled in /etc/inetd.conf but the executables /usr/sbin/in.rsh
and /usr/bin/in.rlogin don't exist. A search of the available packages with
dselect did not turn up anything I could recognize.

One option would be to run rdist with ssh, but I also can't find an ssh in the
bo archive. For that matter, does potato support rsh?

Any advice would be much appreciated.

Tom Kuiper
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Re: Stormix and Brokerage Fees

2000-10-20 Thread Phillip Deackes
Bill Ramsey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> If you live in the US, be aware that if you order anything from
> Stormix you will charged a brokerage fee when the package is
> delivered.

What is a brokerage fee?

I am a fan of Storm Linux - but I have installed it from a Cheapbytes
CD. The 'free' versions have all the Storm apps just like the boxed
version. Does $1.99 sound better?!

Try www.cheapbytes.com


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Using Storm Linux



ssh X forwarding error

2000-10-20 Thread Lazar Fleysher
Hi everybody,


I have a question regarding ssh configuration
My home computer is behing an ip-forwarding server which does not have
xwindows installed. When I login to my home computer through the
server, I get the following error:

Warning: Remote host denied X11 forwarding, perhaps xauth program could
not be run on the server side.

The error is generated when I go through the server part in 

ssh serverhostname -luser -t ssh mypc -lme

Could someone suggest what I should do?

Thanks

Lazar



Re: Stormix and Brokerage Fees

2000-10-20 Thread John Foster
Bill Ramsey wrote:
> 
> If you live in the US, be aware that if you order anything from
> Stormix you will charged a brokerage fee when the package is
> delivered.
> 
> I ordered the deluxe boxed set from Stormix:
> Storm Linux 2000 Deluxe Edition  69.951  0.00
>  GST: 4.89
>Tax Total: 0.00
>  Shipping: Express - USA: 21.99
>  Grand Total: 91.94
> 
> Imagine my surprise when the UPS guy tells me that I owe him $38 in
> brokerage fees !! I refused the package and I've canceled my order. I
> don't need stormix that bad.
> 
> I'll just have to learn how to install Debian the hard way -- I've
> tried 3 times so far : slink and now potato. With Potato I've gotten
> X-Windows up - but I can't connect to the internet (WVDial fails with
> my ISP) and I can't print (the LP module wouldn't install during the
> installation).
> 
> Just to let everyone know about the brokerage fees.
> 
> Bill
> 
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please advise via pvt. mail. I have recommended Storm Linux to my
customers who want to try a Do-It-Yourself approache to trying out
Linux. If this is the case I will re-evaulate that decision.
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OT: Mailing list help (was Re: GnuPG: prblem installing on Woody)

2000-10-20 Thread Chris Gray
On Fri, Oct 20, 2000 at 02:27:04AM -0700, kmself@ix.netcom.com wrote:
> Better more data than less, particularly if I ask for it.  I've been
> getting mightily peeved lately by people who post "how do I solve foo"
> to which I reply "post output of "...which never happens.
> I'm going to start killfiling idiots like that real soon, then I'm going
> to take out hits on them
> 
> But enough of that.

Yes indeed.  Karsten, you have to realize that some people (known as
"lurkers") are not quite as comfortable writing to mailing lists as you.
It takes a really big problem and then they say, "how do I solve foo."
And then they disappear again.

When you say "post output of ", you probably have some
idea what's going on but want confirmation (otherwise, you'd just be
adding noise).  

So instead of just saying "post output of ", say "if
 returns foo then do bar, if it returns baz then do quux,
otherwise post it and let me have a look at it."  The games of 20
questions and gratuitous posts of outputs do not make for interesting
reading or even very helpful help to the people that asked in the first
place.

This is just a suggestion and you in particular do a very good job in
helping a lot of people so I hope you can take it in the spirit that it
is offered.  And of course it is a very general suggestion that I know
won't work in all cases.

Finally, killfiling lurkers is going to make for a large .procmailrc but
is not going to do all that much.  

Cheers,
Chris

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OTP

2000-10-20 Thread Danny Heap
There is (otp) for generating one-time passwords.  Is there a debian
package for implementing OTP?

Thanks.

Danny Heap
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Re: Stormix and Brokerage Fees

2000-10-20 Thread Andrew Sullivan
On Fri, Oct 20, 2000 at 10:21:27AM -0500, John Foster wrote:
> Bill Ramsey wrote:
> > 
> > If you live in the US, be aware that if you order anything from
> > Stormix you will charged a brokerage fee when the package is
> > delivered.

> Linux. If this is the case I will re-evaulate that decision.

As I wrote privately to Mr Ramsey, there is no consistent use of
brokers at the Canada-US border.  The decision to use a broker is
largely up to the shipper, and there is little you can do about it. 
Complaining to stormix might help, though, as I doubt very much they
expect people to have to pay brokerage fees for such a
straightforward transaction.

Given the NAFTA, one would have imagined that brokers would have
dried up; that there are more brokers than ever gives the lie to the
"F" in the acronym.

I speak only for myself, and not the BPL.

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   Burlington, Ontario, Canada L7R 1J4



Re: ssh X forwarding error

2000-10-20 Thread Jeronimo Pellegrini
:: Lazar Fleysher writes:

> Hi everybody,
> I have a question regarding ssh configuration
> My home computer is behing an ip-forwarding server which does not have
> xwindows installed. When I login to my home computer through the
> server, I get the following error:

> Warning: Remote host denied X11 forwarding, perhaps xauth program could
> not be run on the server side.

> The error is generated when I go through the server part in 

> ssh serverhostname -luser -t ssh mypc -lme

> Could someone suggest what I should do?


I believe that some time ago X forwarding was disabled by default in
ssh.

Try "ssh -X".

You may want to put this in our .bashrc:

alias ssh='ssh -X'

Just be aware that the change was made bewcause X forwarding was
considered a security risk...

Or at least, this is what I remember. Someone please correct me if I'm
wrong. 

J.

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Two nics, two networks question

2000-10-20 Thread Matt Kopishke
Hi, is it possible to have one machine with two nics respond to two
different TCP/IP networks with out any routing in between the nics?

If it is possible could you please give an overview how, or point me
towards some documentation?

thanks,

-Matt-



GREP

2000-10-20 Thread Cavaiani, Don

I read where the grep command (along with ? command) can be used to search
your whole hard drive for any file that has a record containing the
particular character string that you are looking for.







Re: ISDN help

2000-10-20 Thread Timo Benk
Hi,

On 19 Oct 2000, Rodolfo Sikora de Melo wrote:
> I need help to config my ISDN card...
> I've already instaled it, but I can't connect anywhere.
> Could somebody send me init.d.funcions and help me how to dial up?

This is my one (/etc/init.d/isdn)


#! /bin/sh
#
#   Start the isdn Subsystem and i4l
#

PATH=/usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/sbin:/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin
DESC="isdn subsystem and ipppd"

set -e

## i4l Parameter
MSN=2623689
DIALMODE="auto"
## NGI
# OUT="0103319106440" 
## Germany Net
## T-Online
OUT="0191011"
TIMEOUT=300
DIALMAX=

## ipppd Pidfile
PIDFILE="/var/lock/ippp0.pid"


case "$1" in
  start)
echo -n "Starting $DESC: "

## Let's look if ipppd is already started
if test -f $PIDFILE; then
echo "It seems like there's another ipppd running.\n"
echo "I'll shut it down first"
kill -9 `cat $PIDFILE`
fi

## Now configure the isdn device
/usr/sbin/isdnctrl addif ippp0
/usr/sbin/isdnctrl eaz ippp0 $MSN
/usr/sbin/isdnctrl dialmode ippp0 $DIALMODE

## add the dialout Numbers
for FON in $OUT; do
/usr/sbin/isdnctrl addphone ippp0 out $FON
echo added dialout $FON to ippp0
done

/usr/sbin/isdnctrl l2_prot ippp0 hdlc
/usr/sbin/isdnctrl l3_prot ippp0 trans

/usr/sbin/isdnctrl encap ippp0 syncppp
/usr/sbin/isdnctrl secure ippp0 on

/usr/sbin/isdnctrl huptimeout ippp0 $TIMEOUT
/usr/sbin/isdnctrl ihup ippp0 on
/usr/sbin/isdnctrl dialmax ippp0 $DIALMAX   

## Let's add the interface and route all unrouted packages
## through ippp0
/sbin/ifconfig ippp0 192.168.0.99
/sbin/ifconfig ippp0 pointopoint 192.168.0.98

/sbin/route add default gw 192.168.0.98 dev ippp0

## Let's start isdnlog
/usr/sbin/hisaxctrl HiSax 1 4
/usr/sbin/isdnlog -f/etc/isdn/isdnlog.isdnctrl0 /dev/isdnctrl0

## Now start ipppd
/usr/sbin/ipppd pidfile $PIDFILE file /etc/ppp/options.ippp0

;;
  stop)
echo -n "Stopping $DESC: "

/sbin/ifconfig ippp0 down
/usr/sbin/isdnctrl delif ippp0
kill `cat $PIDFILE`
STR=`ps -C isdnlog`
if test "$STR";then
killall isdnlog
fi
;;
  restart)
#
#   If the "reload" option is implemented, move the "force-reload"
#   option to the "reload" entry above. If not, "force-reload" is
#   just the same as "restart".
#
echo -n "Restarting $DESC: "
$0 stop && $0 start
;;
  *)
# echo "Usage: $N {start|stop|restart|reload|force-reload}" >&2
echo "Usage: $0 {start|stop|restart}" >&2
exit 1
;;
esac

exit 0


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Re: rlogin and rsh for potato?

2000-10-20 Thread stefan goeman
Hello,

On the remote machine, you have to put an entry in the /etc/hosts.equiv file 
containing the name of your machine (locale !) and your user name. Then you 
should be able to use rlogin and rsh. There is an rsh client and server package 
in potato, although ssh is prefered.

Greetings,

Stefan Goeman


On Fri, Oct 20, 2000 at 08:12:38AM -0700, Tom Kuiper wrote:
> I just installed potato (2.2) on a new server and tried unsuccessfully to set
> up a daily rdist to it from an old machine running bo (2.0).  After rdist
> failed, I discovered that rsh, which rdist uses by default, (and rlogin) are
> seriously disabled under potato.  I guess it's a security feature. Not only 
> are
> the services disabled in /etc/inetd.conf but the executables /usr/sbin/in.rsh
> and /usr/bin/in.rlogin don't exist. A search of the available packages with
> dselect did not turn up anything I could recognize.
> 
> One option would be to run rdist with ssh, but I also can't find an ssh in the
> bo archive. For that matter, does potato support rsh?
> 
> Any advice would be much appreciated.
> 
> Tom Kuiper
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Re: Stormix and Brokerage Fees

2000-10-20 Thread Bill Ramsey
I've "complained" to Stormix by Email and phone messages. No response
so far.

>Complaining to stormix might help, though, as I doubt very much they
>expect people to have to pay brokerage fees for such a
>straightforward transaction.

-- 
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ctrl-c kills local telnet instead of current remote process

2000-10-20 Thread mgi
Using telnet, I noticed that ctrl-c kills the local telnet process,
instead of the current process on the remote machine. The manpages
provide a lot of information, but I do not understand a word.

Is there a way to configure telnet to pass ctrl-c to the remote host
instead of terminating itself?

Matthias




Re: Help: Replacing linuxconf user group & startup services

2000-10-20 Thread Chris Gray
On Fri, Oct 20, 2000 at 03:41:08PM +0200, Jonathan Gift wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> I was told recently that real men don't use linuxconf. Well, since I don't
> want to want to fool around with something so fundemental as my masculinity,
> I figure I had better try without. I've a new install anyway and I was only
> using linuxconf for two things:
> 
> 1. To change my default group from jgift to users
> 2. To Switch off unneeded services
> 
> How can I do this from the console then?
> 
> I used: adduser jgift users
> 
> But I figure this just added me to the group and didn't make jgift's default
> group users as I want.

You might have to change the /etc/passwd file to do this, just change
the fourth field to 100 on the line that starts with your username.
However, you can see the adduser manpage for info on how to do it more
cleanly in the future.

> As for the services, does it really mean poking around the init file hoping
> to get lucky?

Kind of.  Debian init files are usually pretty standardized.  For
instance to stop junkbuster, I could say

# /etc/init.d/junkbuster stop

Or to stop gpm, I could say

# /etc/init.d/gpm stop

Seeing the pattern?  If I didn't want the services to run ever, I would
either remove them, e.g.

# dpkg --purge xdm

or add an "exit 0" to the top of their init.d script after the initial
#!/bin/sh.

Hope this helps,
Chris

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got to be a better way.
-- Jack Handley, The New Mexican, 1988.



Re: OT: Mailing list help (was Re: GnuPG: prblem installing on Woody)

2000-10-20 Thread Mark Brown
On Fri, Oct 20, 2000 at 11:23:54AM -0400, Chris Gray wrote:

> When you say "post output of ", you probably have some
> idea what's going on but want confirmation (otherwise, you'd just be
> adding noise).  

Often that's not the case - people frequently ask questions but don't
provide nearly enough information to debug a problem.  You can start
guessing at possible causes, but there's a fair chance you'll end up
picking the wrong one and/or being more confusing than just asking for
the information needed to work things out.

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Re: URGENT: need to downgrade libc6!

2000-10-20 Thread Chris Gray
On Fri, Oct 20, 2000 at 05:08:23PM +0200, Jaume Teixi wrote:
> It's right if I download potato versions (the ones I want) of libc6,
> lbnss-db, libc6-dev, locales
> then apt-get remove --purge of unstable versions (the ones I don't want)

Don't do this step unless you have a statically linked version of dpkg
(which you probably don't).  Without libc6, dpkg won't run.

> dpkg -i each_potato_pkg.deb

Just do this, dpkg will downgrade for you.  (i.e. "--force-downgrade" is
implicit).

Hope this helps,
Chris

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got to be a better way.
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Re: GREP

2000-10-20 Thread Erik Steffl
  yes, that's true, are you asking what the '?' is or are you just
stating the fact? anyway, the other command is find, see manpages for
find and grep for more info. find is the one that finds file (based on
name, time last accessed, type and various other criteria), grep
searches the files for string (regular expression). xargs is often
useful in commands like this:

  find / -name '*.h' -print | xargs grep '[sf]printf'

erik

"Cavaiani, Don" wrote:
> 
> I read where the grep command (along with ? command) can be used to search
> your whole hard drive for any file that has a record containing the
> particular character string that you are looking for.
> 
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RE: new system to buy

2000-10-20 Thread Ingles, Raymond
> From: Brandt Dusthimer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>  Also, look into a better video card.  ATI doesn't support the Linux
> cause at all.  You can pick up a TNT2 for $50 and with XFree 4.0.1 you
> can use NVidia's open source drivers.

 No offense, but that's a fair amount of incorrect information.

 1. ATI does support Linux (XFree86 and utah-glx specifically), and
the ATI Rage Pro card specs are fully open and used in utah-glx.
The Rage 128 series are also open-spec and X 4.0/DRI drivers have
been written. However, these are older, slower cards. Adequate for
Quake, maybe Quake III, don't even bother w/QIII.

3D support for the Radeon isn't available for Linux *yet*, but
based on ATI's track record I believe them when they say it will be.

 2. Nvidia does have open-source drivers, but they are obfuscated, and
only work with XF86 3.3.x, not 4.0. They are also slow. My TNT card
runs just about half as fast using them compared with the Windows
drivers. (Quake framerate ~26FPS Linux, ~60FPS Windows.)

The XF86 4.0 drivers for Nvidia are binary, with a small open-source
interface layer so they can work with multiple kernels. This is not
Nvidia's fault, really, as they licensed technology that they don't
have the right to distribute source for. But the upshot is they
aren't open-source, and they won't be. But they are the fastest with
Linux, right now.

 3. Matrox is probably the fastest 3D for Linux with open-source support.
There's XF86 4.0 with DRI support, and it should be very quick. I got
to play with the 3.3.x version and it was fast enough (barely) for
QuakeIII. The 4.0 version should be substantially faster.

> As for sound, get a cheap-o Sound Blaster card.

 Hard to go wrong with that. But I would suggest you look at cards
based on the Trident 4DWave chipset. They can be had for as little as
$15 and they have a lot of advantages. They are PCI, support multi-open
in hardware (multiple apps can play sound at the same time), the specs
are fully open so support is very solid, and the sound is clean. Spend
$40 and you get SPDIF (digital) output as well.

 There are some disadvantages you should be aware of, though. Sound
capture quality is not what I'd hoped - ample for voice work, not so
good for, e.g., recording tapes and burning them onto CDs. I don't
think the ISA SB cards would be any better, though a SB Live might be.
And Trident's no longer making the chips, so future Windows drivers
may be a problem.

 Sincerely,

 Ray Ingles(248) 377-7735 [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 "Destruction is *easy*. Even stupid people and weather formations can
do it. If you think you're so cool, try *improving* something."
  - Me



RE: OT: Cross-platform document format?

2000-10-20 Thread Ingles, Raymond
> From: Kent West [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

> > LaTeX or Lout (combined with say xfig or dia for graphics) 
> > may fit the bill,

> Thanks for the response. I was looking for a common document 
> format, so that the students on campus would quit turning their
> homework in as .DOC format.

 RTF is open enough. I know that WP and OpenOffice and the rest can
read it, and there's a native-RTF editor for Linux, too. Plus, Word
can be convinced to save as RTF, though of course it hates being
prevented from tripling the file size with binary DOC stuff.

 RTF doesn't support every possible format option, but it should cover
90% of the stuff you'd run into on campus. It doesn't support viruses
to my knowledge.

 Well, except for the fact that if you rename a .doc file to .rtf,
Word will open it and edit it like a DOC file, including running macros.
So even if it looks like an RTF file, it might not be. Still, it's
better than nothing...

 Sincerely,

 Ray Ingles (248) 377-7735   [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Microsoft Windows - The defacto substandard.



Re: Stormix and Brokerage Fees

2000-10-20 Thread Bill Ramsey
Follow UP

Stormix called --
they said I should not have been charged anything. They said
they switched "fulfillment houses" and were trying to contact them
about it.

Then the "fulfillment" house called -- 
they said they have a "issue" with UPS right now and that it
was UPS's fault. 

Whatever 

The bottom line is I had to refuse the shipment and I was really
looking forward to trying it out. I guess I'll wait until cheap bytes
comes out with a cd.

Bill
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RE: OT: Cross-platform document format?

2000-10-20 Thread David Teague
On Fri, 20 Oct 2000, Ingles, Raymond wrote:

>  RTF is open enough. I know that WP and OpenOffice and the rest can
> read it, and there's a native-RTF editor for Linux, too. Plus, Word
> can be convinced to save as RTF, though of course it hates being
> prevented from tripling the file size with binary DOC stuff.

Ray 

What is the "native-RTF editor for Linux"? 
Is there a Debian package for it?

--David
David Teague, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Debian GNU/Linux Because software support is free, timely,
 useful, technically accurate, and friendly.
 (I hope this is all of the above.)



Re: OT: Mailing list help (was Re: GnuPG: prblem installing on Woody)

2000-10-20 Thread Chris Gray
On Fri, Oct 20, 2000 at 04:35:39PM +0100, Mark Brown wrote:
> On Fri, Oct 20, 2000 at 11:23:54AM -0400, Chris Gray wrote:
> 
> > When you say "post output of ", you probably have some
> > idea what's going on but want confirmation (otherwise, you'd just be
> > adding noise).  
> 
> Often that's not the case - people frequently ask questions but don't
> provide nearly enough information to debug a problem.  You can start
> guessing at possible causes, but there's a fair chance you'll end up
> picking the wrong one and/or being more confusing than just asking for
> the information needed to work things out.

Right, I'm not telling people to make bricks without straw: just let
people know what their suspicion is and how they would fix it if their
suspicion turned out to be true.  

Obviously, if someone just says, "I can't get X to work" then that
information is pretty much useless without the other information of
their video card and monitor.  But if you do have an idea of what's
going on, don't keep it to yourself or hide it behind a question.
That's really all I'm saying.

Cheers,
Chris

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got to be a better way.
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what is modules.conf

2000-10-20 Thread Peter Jay Salzman
i've never got this straight --

1. what is modules.conf?   what is it used for?

2. which applications use this configuration file?  and when?
only at boot time?

3. how is it generated?

always wanted to know this...  thanks!

pete



Re: OT: Cross-platform document format?

2000-10-20 Thread Kent West
"Ingles, Raymond" wrote:
> 
> > From: Kent West [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
> > > LaTeX or Lout (combined with say xfig or dia for graphics)
> > > may fit the bill,
> 
> > Thanks for the response. I was looking for a common document
> > format, so that the students on campus would quit turning their
> > homework in as .DOC format.
> 
>  RTF is open enough. I know that WP and OpenOffice and the rest can
> read it, and there's a native-RTF editor for Linux, too. Plus, Word
> can be convinced to save as RTF, though of course it hates being
> prevented from tripling the file size with binary DOC stuff.

Yeah, RTF looks like the closest to what I'm looking for.
 
>  RTF doesn't support every possible format option, but it should cover
> 90% of the stuff you'd run into on campus. It doesn't support viruses
> to my knowledge.

Yeah, I experimented some the other day; plain stuff does okay, but the
more complex docs really turn ugly fast. (BTW, I exported a complex WP9
doc to RTF, which neither Word nor WordPerfect would even recognize as
being a valid file format; WP used to be SO excellent). I need better
than 90% support, which means RTF really doesn't do the job. However,
I'll still probably recommend to the faculty that they encourage the use
of RTF over DOC.

I guess there's no such animal. It looks like Phil Brutsche got it right
when he said "If you *do* need to pass around documents for editing,
then MS Word's .doc is your one and only choice."

Major bummer.


>  Well, except for the fact that if you rename a .doc file to .rtf,
> Word will open it and edit it like a DOC file, including running macros.
> So even if it looks like an RTF file, it might not be. Still, it's
> better than nothing...

I didn't know this. This is very good to know.
 
>  Sincerely,
> 
>  Ray Ingles (248) 377-7735   [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Thanks!
Kent



Re: Stormix and Brokerage Fees

2000-10-20 Thread Pann McCuaig
The problem is UPS (at least in B.C.). They _will_ act as customs broker
for their Canadian shippers and they _will_ charge the recipient a fee
unless the shipper is big enough to make other arrangements. I doubt
Stormix qualifies.

You might suggest to Stormix that they use Canada Post unless the
customer specifies (and knows what he's getting into) UPS.

The OpenBSD project mails me CDs from Alberta, and they just attach a
little customs sticker to the package. If there is a customs charge for
the Stormix package, it will always be the same; Stormix will have to
pay Canada Post when the package is mailed, and they can collect it from
you along with GST when they calculate your total charge.

Just depends on how badly they want to do business in the US.

On Fri, Oct 20, 2000 at 10:20, Bill Ramsey wrote:
> If you live in the US, be aware that if you order anything from
> Stormix you will charged a brokerage fee when the package is
> delivered.
> 
> I ordered the deluxe boxed set from Stormix: 
> Storm Linux 2000 Deluxe Edition  69.951  0.00 
>  GST: 4.89
>Tax Total: 0.00
>  Shipping: Express - USA: 21.99
>  Grand Total: 91.94
> 
> Imagine my surprise when the UPS guy tells me that I owe him $38 in
> brokerage fees !! I refused the package and I've canceled my order. I
> don't need stormix that bad.
> 
> I'll just have to learn how to install Debian the hard way -- I've
> tried 3 times so far : slink and now potato. With Potato I've gotten
> X-Windows up - but I can't connect to the internet (WVDial fails with
> my ISP) and I can't print (the LP module wouldn't install during the
> installation).
> 
> Just to let everyone know about the brokerage fees.
> 
> Bill
> 
> -- 
> Bill Ramsey
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Luck,
Pann
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Re: HELP - voodoo 3 trouble

2000-10-20 Thread Peter Jay Salzman
hi evan,

i've tried and tried.   can't get test3Dfx to work, even as root.   it says
"can't find or access board", even though it's detected at boot time:

Oct 17 21:29:01 satan kernel: fb: Voodoo3 memory = 16384K
Oct 17 21:29:01 satan kernel: fb: MTRR's  turned on
Oct 17 21:29:01 satan kernel: fb0: 3Dfx Voodoo3 frame buffer device

this does seem like a driver issue.  i can't unload the module because it's
"busy", even though nothing is currently using the module.  bleah.

linux.3dfx.com has stuff which worked when i had a suse system, but it seems
a little out of date.   i may just try that.   only comes as rpms.  yuck.

alternatively, i can try to upgrade xfree86 4.0 and hope that works.

which would you recommend?

if upgrading xfree86 is the way to go, how can i do this while satisfying
any dependencies there might be?   on dselect, i see only 3.3.6.   i assume
what i need to do is duplicate the entries in my /etc/apt/sources.list:

deb ftp://ftp.ca.debian.org/debian/ potato main non-free contrib
deb-src ftp://ftp.ca.debian.org/debian/ potato main non-free contrib
deb http://non-us.debian.org/debian-non-US potato/non-US main contrib non-free
deb-src http://non-us.debian.org/debian-non-US potato/non-US main contrib 
non-free

but change "potato" to "woody"?   (i'm pretty new to debian).   then run
dselect, choose update, let it work, choose select, uninstall
xfree86-common-3.3.6 and reinstall xfree86-common-4.0.   i assume this will
take care of the dependencies itself...  right?   :)

i really appreciate this!
pete


On Wed, 18 Oct 2000, Evan Van Dyke wrote:

> Peter Jay Salzman wrote:
> > 
> > dear all,
> > 
> > when i try to run test3Dfx on my dual celery550 (debian 2.2, kernel
> > 2.4.0-test9), it reports:
> 
> 1) run it as root, does it work?  If so, then it's a module problem.
> 2) I had some problems with the debian distro of the glide libs and
> ended
>up compileing and installing my own from CVS(glide.sourceforge.net)
> 3) My 3dfx module didn't work with the 2.4.0-test* series, so you might
>be stuck as running as root for now.
> 4) Try Xfree4.0CVS and Glide3xCVS for accelerated OpenGL(although no
> Glide)
>X4.0 is _soo_ much faster than 3.3.*
> 
> --Evan



Re: OT: Cross-platform document format?

2000-10-20 Thread Aaron Brashears

On Fri, Oct 20, 2000 at 12:26:47PM -0400, David Teague wrote:
> What is the "native-RTF editor for Linux"? 
> Is there a Debian package for it?

apt-get install abiword



Re: Stormix and Brokerage Fees

2000-10-20 Thread Shel Johnson

--- Bill Ramsey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> If you live in the US, be aware that if you order anything from
> Stormix you will charged a brokerage fee when the package is
> delivered.

Hmm.. that's odd.. I live in Texas and I wasn't charged that 'brokerage
fee' when the cd's arrived.. I wonder if it matters what state you live in??...

=
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Re: what is modules.conf

2000-10-20 Thread Matthias Mann
Hi Peter!

/etc/modules.conf includes all the names of modules, they are installed into
your kernel. I´m not shure whether modconf has generated this file. But
modconf will write into it by selecting a module to put it into the kernel.
The kernel reads this file to see which modules shall be load at booting.

[If here is a mistake please correct me. I´m still very new in the
linuxworld.]

Matthias

- Original Message -
From: Peter Jay Salzman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: Debian user mailing list 
Sent: Friday, October 20, 2000 6:31 PM
Subject: what is modules.conf


> i've never got this straight --
>
> 1. what is modules.conf?   what is it used for?
>
> 2. which applications use this configuration file?  and when?
> only at boot time?
>
> 3. how is it generated?
>
> always wanted to know this...  thanks!
>
> pete
>
>
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exim __newbie__

2000-10-20 Thread Steve Juranich
First off, I'd like to say that I have no intention or desire to use my box
as a mail server, or even have mail delivered on my system.  The only reason
that I am compelled to configure exim on my box is to be able to use things
like 'reportbug' and 'bugbuddy'.

Right now, when I send a mail from my box at home (I'm sending this message
from my school account), the mail headers come up as being sent from 
"[EMAIL PROTECTED]", which is correct.  But what I'd like
to do is for exim to mangle the address so that it says that it's being sent
from one of my other accounts.

Is something that I can put in the exim config file to say something like:

if (from_steve):
from = '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'

or something like that? 

TIA

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University of Washington http://rcs.ee.washington.edu/ssli




RE: Stormix and Brokerage Fees

2000-10-20 Thread Robert H. Miller
I just got mine in the mail and didn't have to pay any brokerage fees.  My
copy was shipped from some place on the east coast in the US even though I
ordered it through the Stormix web site.

Robert Miller

Robert H. Miller
ISL suite 101Phone (858)535-9680ext124
6370 Nancy Ridge Dr  Fax   (858)535-9848
San Diego, CA 92121  Cell  (858)518-2220

-Original Message-
From: Bill Ramsey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, October 20, 2000 7:20 AM
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Stormix and Brokerage Fees


If you live in the US, be aware that if you order anything from
Stormix you will charged a brokerage fee when the package is
delivered.

I ordered the deluxe boxed set from Stormix:
Storm Linux 2000 Deluxe Edition  69.951  0.00
 GST: 4.89
   Tax Total: 0.00
 Shipping: Express - USA: 21.99
 Grand Total: 91.94

Imagine my surprise when the UPS guy tells me that I owe him $38 in
brokerage fees !! I refused the package and I've canceled my order. I
don't need stormix that bad.

I'll just have to learn how to install Debian the hard way -- I've
tried 3 times so far : slink and now potato. With Potato I've gotten
X-Windows up - but I can't connect to the internet (WVDial fails with
my ISP) and I can't print (the LP module wouldn't install during the
installation).

Just to let everyone know about the brokerage fees.

Bill

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I/O to ZIP drive temporarily locks up machine

2000-10-20 Thread Krzys Majewski
I don't know how to say  this properly.. when backing up files from my
IDE  hard  drive  to  my  parallel  port  ZIP100  drive,  the  machine
occasionally  blocks: it's like  everything freezes  for about  half a
minute before I can do anything  again. This only happens when the ZIP
drive is  running (not  sure if  it's R or  W or  both). This  is with
kernel 2.2.17,  using the  imm driver  as a module.  I've set  all the
default "safe"  options for  the driver, like  "slow and  reliable" or
whatnot.  Is this a  kernel bug?  IMM driver  bug? User  bug? Feature?
Help? chris



Re: exim help needed (fwd)

2000-10-20 Thread Krzys Majewski
Yow. You  mean I  need to  write my own  daemon just  to do  this?! If
that's the case I think I'll  foresake the idealistic Mutt and go back
to pine.. 
*sigh*
chris


> mutt will by default pipe its message to /usr/lib/sendmail (?)
> and that will send the mail to the smtp server or whatever.
> I have ssmtp and a smtpd server i made, so ssmtp (which has
> /usr/lib/sendmail and /usr/sbin/ssmtp i think) sends the smtp
> data to my mail host which is localhost and my smtpd sends it to my
> smarthost.
> 
> 
> 
> 



Re: GREP

2000-10-20 Thread Damian Menscher
On Fri, 20 Oct 2000, Erik Steffl wrote:

>   yes, that's true, are you asking what the '?' is or are you just
> stating the fact? anyway, the other command is find, see manpages for
> find and grep for more info. find is the one that finds file (based on
> name, time last accessed, type and various other criteria), grep
> searches the files for string (regular expression). xargs is often
> useful in commands like this:
> 
>   find / -name '*.h' -print | xargs grep '[sf]printf'

Just curious, but is this any better/worse than doing a

find / -name '*.h' -exec grep '[sf]printf' {} \;

My way seems more straightforward, but I'm not sure about differences in
processing time, when the first match would be found, etc.

Damian Menscher
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gcc file : specs ; need infos

2000-10-20 Thread Matthias Mann
Hi You!

I like to understand the specs file of gcc. In man gcc i had found no
information about that. Do you know a HOWTO or another document where i can
find an explanation of this file?

Thanx,

Matthias



Re: what is modules.conf

2000-10-20 Thread Philipp Lehman
On Fri, 20 Oct 2000, Peter Jay Salzman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>i've never got this straight --
>1. what is modules.conf?   what is it used for?

The main configuration file for kernel modules. Defines aliases
and options used when loading modules.

>2. which applications use this configuration file?

The ones involved in loading modules: insmod, modprobe.

> and when?
>only at boot time?

Every time a module is loaded.

>3. how is it generated?

Either by hand (not recommended) or by update-modules (part of
the modutils package). update-modules reads all files in
/etc/modutils plus the file for your architecture in
/etc/modutils/arch and simply 'cat's it into /etc/modules.conf.

>always wanted to know this...  thanks!

HTH

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Re: what is modules.conf

2000-10-20 Thread Erik Steffl
Peter Jay Salzman wrote:
> 
> i've never got this straight --
> 
> 1. what is modules.conf?   what is it used for?

  various information about modules, for example options (which irq to
use etc.), you can also turn off the modules (for example if kernels
looks for modules you do not have (and you do not want to have, like
appletalk))

> 2. which applications use this configuration file?  and when?
> only at boot time?

  the information is used whenever modules are loaded, it is either
during boot time, or on demand - if you use the device or explicitly
load module using modprobe or insmod

> 3. how is it generated?

  you can edit it using your prefered editor (or other text editor:-),
some programs also change stuff in there, in debian it is generated
using info from various packages that provide device drivers (e.g. alsa)

erik



Re: calculating disk space

2000-10-20 Thread Sven Burgener
On Fri, Oct 20, 2000 at 08:30:43PM +1300, C. Falconer wrote:
> C * H * S * kilobytes per sector

Just what I needed. Cheers.

Sven
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Re: mouse not working in x

2000-10-20 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Matthias, Water, and Glyn -

I have a PS/2 Mouse hooked to a serial port. I don't know what
I/O it is, but windows tells me I have a PS/2 mouse at IRQ 12.
My bootup messages in debian linux say "PS/2 port recognized".
Also, that I have a 16550A at both IRQ3 & IRQ4. I know this mouse
will work with linux because my first OS was Corel linux (based
on Debian) and the mouse worked fine except when the mouse server
wouldn't get recognized by the kernel at boot-up. I would reboot
and everything would be fine.

At present, I do not have gpm at all. I know TTYS02 is my ethernet
card.

Ah, the wonders of learning a new OS. I'm convinced it will be
worth it all.

Thanks for your time, help, and suggestions. I think once I can
find out which port (TTYSO?) the mouse is connected to I'll be
fine.

Regards, gentlemen,
Bob Edwards
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Fayetteville, AR

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Re: what is modules.conf

2000-10-20 Thread Paul D. Smith
%% Erik Steffl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

  es> Peter Jay Salzman wrote:

  >> 2. which applications use this configuration file?  and when?
  >> only at boot time?

Just to be perfectly clear, modules.conf is used to configure loadable
_kernel_ modules only.  It is not used for _any_ userspace applications.

  >> 3. how is it generated?

  es>   you can edit it using your prefered editor (or other text
  es> editor:-), some programs also change stuff in there, in debian it
  es> is generated using info from various packages that provide device
  es> drivers (e.g. alsa)

In Debian (2.2, anyway) you shouldn't ever edit this file by hand... as
stated in the comments at the top.

Go to /etc/modutils and edit the component files there (and/or add new
ones if you like), and then run update-modules to re-create the
/etc/modules.conf file.

See the man page for update-modules for more details.

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Re: {BIG MISTAKE} - what is modules.conf

2000-10-20 Thread Matthias Mann
Hello again dear Peter!

I´m so sorry! I exchanged /etc/modules.conf with /etc/modules! Forget my
last mail. It has nothing to do with your questions! To /etc/modules.conf i
only can write, that it includes some aliases for work with the system. I
mean that this aliases will be needed for kernel to handle the modules or
the supports that are directly compiled into the kernel. That is all i know
about /etc/modules.conf. Sorry!

Matthias

- Original Message -
From: Peter Jay Salzman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: Debian user mailing list 
Sent: Friday, October 20, 2000 6:31 PM
Subject: what is modules.conf


> i've never got this straight --
>
> 1. what is modules.conf?   what is it used for?
>
> 2. which applications use this configuration file?  and when?
> only at boot time?
>
> 3. how is it generated?
>
> always wanted to know this...  thanks!
>
> pete
>
>
> --
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Re: exim __newbie__

2000-10-20 Thread Tomislav Renic
I ran into this problem a while ago...

Basically, I came to the conlcusion that you should configure your
mail program to replace the from header.  For Example, in Mutt, just
add the following to your muttrc file:

my_hdr From: Tomislav Renic \<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
my_hdr Reply-To: Tomislav Renic \<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>


This sets the reply-to and the From header to whatever you want...

Having said that, I'm not sure how to make exim do the work, and was
unsuccesful trying to find an answer...


On Fri, Oct 20, 2000 at 10:08:47AM -0700, Steve Juranich wrote:
> First off, I'd like to say that I have no intention or desire to use my box
> as a mail server, or even have mail delivered on my system.  The only reason
> that I am compelled to configure exim on my box is to be able to use things
> like 'reportbug' and 'bugbuddy'.
> 
> Right now, when I send a mail from my box at home (I'm sending this message
> from my school account), the mail headers come up as being sent from 
> "[EMAIL PROTECTED]", which is correct.  But what I'd like
> to do is for exim to mangle the address so that it says that it's being sent
> from one of my other accounts.
> 
> Is something that I can put in the exim config file to say something like:
> 
> if (from_steve):
>   from = '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
> 
> or something like that?   
> 
> TIA
> 
> --
> Stephen W. Juranich [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Electrical Engineering http://students.washington.edu/sjuranic
> University of Washington http://rcs.ee.washington.edu/ssli
> 
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Help-problems with programming

2000-10-20 Thread Jussi Seppala
I have written some programs and now
I am trying to write a “pretty” simple (java) program 
(and run it in dos), which should draw 
a histogram of the course grades.
I should just write down (type) the points of the students 
and the program should draw the histogram based on 
these numbers and write 
the limits for the points and the grades.

For example:

Limits for points:   
5 10 15 20 25
Grades:  
6   7  89  10

Histogram of the gourse grades

6   ***
7   *
8   **
9   *
10  *

Any idea where should I start ?
And after that?
Where can I find help?
What are the main points in this program?

Many thanks in advance!!!
Jussi
 
 

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