Fw: netscape

[Beavis]

> i tried running it frm the command line a got:
> can't load library libXt.so.6
>
> u would think it would install everything it needs!
>
> any ideas, should i dslect and install it or does anyone have a good
source
> for ti?
>
> thabkx again
>
>
> - Original Message -
> From: Beavis
> To: debian list
> Sent: Saturday, March 18, 2000 3:22 PM
> Subject: netscape
>
>
> i want to change my environ. var. to use the new netscape version.
> where is my .bashrc?
>
> i ma using slink 2.2.14
>
> this is the next step...
> It is recommended that you make use of the MOZILLA_HOME environment
> variable in your .cshrc, .profile, or equivalent.  MOZILLA_HOME should
> be set to the directory in which you installed Communicator.
>
> For example, 'setenv MOZILLA_HOME /usr/local/netscape'.
>
> If you intend to move the 'netscape' binary into another directory
> (like /usr/local/bin), then you must set MOZILLA_HOME in order for
> Communicator to find all of its components.  (MOZILLA_HOME would be
> set to the installation directory in this case, NOT the directory in
> which the binary resides.)
>
>

Re: XEmacs use 'Alt' as 'Meta'

[ferret]

I've been rather fighting the inconsistancies myself. I might get to
fixing up console someday.

Oh yeah, there's something called ICCCM which xemacs follows under X which
among other things describes  a method (IMO the Right Way)  to
consistantly read and interpret keypresses.

Basically (going from memory)

Apps like Enlightenment and gnome seem to assume that any key that
generates "mod1" modifier is ALT
ICCCM apps like xemacs assume that the "shift" keys that generate ALT_L
and ALT_R with the same modifier bit, said bit not shared with any other
"shift" keys, is ALT.
Also assumes that the "shift" keys that generate META_L and META_R with a
dictinct modifier bit (doesn't matter exactly WHICH modifier bit) is META.

I mean, you can map SHIFT_L and SHIFT_R to use "mod1" and Eterm will
suddenly decide that pressing "SHIFT+R" will be ALT-R.

People in general don't seem to care, at least not the last time I brought
up the subject. See the list archives and the bug system.

Heh, maybe I'll make a proposal in my spare time, if I could get at least
one official developer to back me. This is on my list of peeves.

--
Beiad Ian Q. Dalton

On 18 Mar 2000, Brian May wrote:

> > "Sean" == Sean 'Shaleh' Perry <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> 
> Sean> On 16-Mar-2000 Joseph A. Martin wrote:
> >> Hello, I feel like this should be a simple thing to do, but I
> >> haven't been able to figure it out so far. I want XEmacs to my
> >> Left Alt key as the Meta key. It works like that when I am
> >> running XEmacs from the console. However, if I run XEmacs from
> >> XWindows ESC is my meta key and Left-Alt is not recognized by
> >> XEmacs. What do I need to change to have XEmacs in XWindows use
> >> Left-Alt as the Meta key?
> >> 
> 
> Sean> if you have one, the windows key is bound as meta.
> 
> Is it possible to use the windows key as meta in XEmacs for text mode
> sessions? I don't like this inconsistency... Some combinations work,
> others don't. Tested:
> 
> text mode console: alt --> meta
> gnome-terminal:alt --> meta
> xterm: windows --> meta
> -- 
> Brian May <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> 
> 
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Re: Segmentation faults in dpkg

[dan]

On Fri, Mar 17, 2000 at 01:12:01PM -0800, Bart Friederichs generated a stream 
of 1s and 0s:
>  Hi,
>  
>  Here another one from the guy that can't get Debian installed due to a bad
>  PC (I think). When I run dselect and it starts installing all goes well
>  until one of the packages gets a segfault (dpkg does actually) and then my
>  whole PC crashes. I tried again and it crashed on the same package (m4 or
>  something).
>  
>  Also, when I do apt-get, the apt-get program hangs when 'Correcting
>  dependencies...'. There is no action, except that it takes up all the %CPU
>  that is left. Anybody any ideas?
>  
>  Bart
>  
>  PS
>  Think I have to do all the packages by hand : ((
>

Check RAM or CPU.

[no subject]

[Des Keane]

Send me what you have on.
 

Is the following part of /etc/security/access.conf?

[Shaul Karl]

I have managed to mv files that I did not meant to. Can someone tell me if the 
following is part of /etc/security/access.conf?

[03:49:10 /tmp]$ cat /etc/security/access.conf 
#%PAM-1.0
auth   required pam_unix_auth.so
accountrequired pam_unix_acct.so
password   required pam_unix_passwd.so
sessionrequired pam_unix_session.so

[03:50:18 /tmp]$ 

-- 
Shaul Karl [EMAIL PROTECTED]
An elephant is a mouse with an operating system.

Re: Printing trouble

[John Pearson]

On Sat, Mar 18, 2000 at 10:39:38AM +0530, K. Sudheesh wrote
> 
> Dear Friends,
> 
>   I have installed the Debian GNU/Linux 2.1 distribution on my 486
> machine called "sarasvati.nio.org" with 32MB RAM.  This has a local HP
> LaserJet 4M+ printer attatched to it over a serial port. The printer name
> is "mayem".  "Sarasvati" is connected over the LAN. I have the following
> strange printing problems.
> 
>   All users who are local users on "sarasvati" can print their jobs
> on the printer.  Users who are not local on "sarasvati" cannot print their
> jobs on it but can do so if they sudo to root.  Window users can also
> print here.  I have checked the printcap file for rs: and rg: entries but
> none exist.  I will be very grateful in you could help me in resolving
> this problem.
> 

I use LPRng in place of BSD lpr so I could be talking out of my
hat, but this sounds like a problem with the clients rather than
your server.  What OS/spooling software are they using?

As they are able to print as root then presumably there is no
problem with the server setup or the printcap on the clients;
perhaps it is a permissions problem with the spool directory
on the client.  What are the permissions on 'lpr' on the
clients, and does making the relevant spool directory on a 
client world-writeable make any difference?  (please, remember
to change things back if you try this).


John P.
-- 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
"Oh - I - you know - my job is to fear everything." - Bill Gates in Denmark

Teac USB Floppy Drive

[Cameron Matheson]

Hey,

I just bought an I-Opener, and I need to get a floppy drive for it. 
Teac sells an external USB floppy drive (the Teac FD05PU), but I'm not
sure it will work.  It's for iMac's, does this make any difference?

Thanks,
Cameron Matheson

Re: SMTP password

[Adam Shand]

> There were no other way. Were can I get sendmail 8.10 and the sasl
> patches?

there isn't a debian sendmail 8.10 package yet but there is the sasl
packages (libsasl7 and libsasl-dev).

download sendmail source from www.sendmail.org and there is some good info
on how to make it all work in the docs in the tar ball and at
www.sendmail.net.

also there is good info on Claus' home page.

http://www.sendmail.org/~ca/email/auth.html

hope that helps,

adam.

Re: SMTP password

[Emil Soleyman-Zomalan]

> there isn't a debian sendmail 8.10 package yet but there is the sasl
> packages (libsasl7 and libsasl-dev).

Actually there is a debian package of sendmail 8.10. 
You can find it at http://www.debian.org/Packages/unstable/mail/sendmail.html

-- 
Emil Soleyman-Zomalan

Networking

[mcmi0037]

I have a question about networking.. here's the situation:

I have 2 Debian boxes with Ethernet cards, & respective cabling. I have an
on-campus Ethernet connection, with 1 static IP & 1 etherjack allocated to me.
Currently, I have the two PC's both online and configured to use the static
IP, 160.94.138.145. I read the Net-3 & IP-Masq Howtos, and I am pretty sure I
can configure one of the boxes as a firewall if I must.

Currently, I have only one box connected to the internet at a time, and I have
to ifconfig eth0 down on one box, plug the RJ-45 into the other box, and
ifconfig up on the other one. I'd like to be able to have both online at once,
though. (Especially since the main thing I want to do with one of them is play
around with remote X apps.) 

The question I have, which I don't think I could glean form the Howtos, is,
what other hardware do I need?

If I get an Ethernet hub with, say, 8 ports, can I connect one port to the
jack on the wall, and two more of the ports to the NIC's on my boxes? Or do I
need a third NIC on one of the computers that will be connected directly to
the hub?

I guess my real question is, can I do a connect like this:

 inet > hub ---> box1
 |
 +-> box2 

or do i need to do this:

 inet ---> box1 ---> hub ---> box2

And, if I do that second setup, won't I need two NIC's on box1, one ingoing &
one outgoing?

Colin McMillen 

Unresolved symbols potato and kernel 2.0.36

[Jonathan Markevich]

I suppose it's the height of naivite to expect an answer about Debian around
here, but here goes...


Once again... I upgraded to Potato.  Yes, stupid, but I'm really really 
tired of waiting.

The upgrade thought it a great idea to remove my working alsa-modules
package and replace it with... NOTHING!  Poof, perfectly good sound is out
there, somewhere.

So I have tried to replace it... reinstalling, trying other kernel versions
(including this new-fangled kernel 2.2.x thing which is apparently the
greatest thing since sliced bread, but won't run on a computer with THREE
SERIAL PORTS!!!  Ever heard of a machine so unusual?  I mean a shared IRQ
that's like, IMPOSSIBLE isn't it??)

I tried recompiling my old drivers, 0.3.pre4 something, and could only do
that if I installed gcc272 as well, and actually got them compiled.

Now I come to the subject line.  I have over a screenful of 
depmod: *** Unresolved symbols in /lib/modules/2.0.36/misc/isapnp.o
depmod: *** Unresolved symbols in /lib/modules/2.0.36/misc/persist.o
depmod: *** Unresolved symbols in /lib/modules/2.0.36/misc/snd-ac97-codec.o
depmod: *** Unresolved symbols in /lib/modules/2.0.36/misc/snd-ad1848.o
depmod: *** Unresolved symbols in /lib/modules/2.0.36/misc/snd-audiodrive1688.o
depmod: *** Unresolved symbols in /lib/modules/2.0.36/misc/snd-audiodrive18xx.o
depmod: *** Unresolved symbols in /lib/modules/2.0.36/misc/snd-audiopci.o
depmod: *** Unresolved symbols in /lib/modules/2.0.36/misc/snd-card-ad1848.o
depmod: *** Unresolved symbols in /lib/modules/2.0.36/misc/snd-card-cs4231.o
depmod: *** Unresolved symbols in /lib/modules/2.0.36/misc/snd-card-cs4232.o
depmod: *** Unresolved symbols in /lib/modules/2.0.36/misc/snd-cs4231.o
depmod: *** Unresolved symbols in /lib/modules/2.0.36/misc/snd-card-cs4236.o
depmod: *** Unresolved symbols in /lib/modules/2.0.36/misc/snd-cs4236.o
depmod: *** Unresolved symbols in /lib/modules/2.0.36/misc/snd-detect.o

... and so on. 

How on the planet do I resolve them?  Yes, they're all the alsa modules, so
what?  How do I fix this?  I have a very limited time to hack and I don't
like spending 4 hours fixing something that was working fine.

Thanks for bearing with me in my misery, and please, give SOME indication
that someone is out there that has done this before???



-- 
Jonathan Markevich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
http://members.xoom.com/JMarkevich

There is no grief which time does not lessen and soften.

Re: Unresolved symbols potato and kernel 2.0.36

[Percival]

Don't upgrade unless you have to.  I always have to remind myself of that - if 
my machine is working and I can do the tasks I need to do, even though there is 
a new fangled a super-cool version of my software, I don't have to install it.  
I still need to remind myself.

That said, I just installed Potato as well, and killed my sound support.

I don't know if I can offer you much help, as my sound is also still dead, but 
I can make some comments.

First, is sounds to me like you are using stock debian kernels.  I don't know 
if it is true, but it would not surprise me if the Potato kernel is not set to 
deal with sound modules.  I always think compiling your own kernel is a good 
idea (you learn a lot about your computer and about linux), but others have 
differing opinions.  Oh, and yes, shared IRQs are impossible.  At least, I 
don't think Linux can deal with that setup.  But, any linux kernel can deal 
with any number of serial ports if properly configured.  Again, this gets back 
to building your own kernel.

The 'unresolved symbols' warnings have to do with module dependencies.  Did you 
run 'depmod' after compiling and installing your sound modules?  You can try to 
insert the modules by hand using 'insmod', and when you run into troubles, you 
will at least know where you are in the process - which modules is not 
configured correctly or missing.

I wish I could help more.

There should be a modules howto

Maybe I should write one.  As soon as I figure them out.

-Percival
On Sat, Mar 18, 2000 at 10:44:49PM -0500, Jonathan Markevich wrote:
> 
> I suppose it's the height of naivite to expect an answer about Debian around
> here, but here goes...
> 
> 
> Once again... I upgraded to Potato.  Yes, stupid, but I'm really really 
> tired of waiting.
> 
> The upgrade thought it a great idea to remove my working alsa-modules
> package and replace it with... NOTHING!  Poof, perfectly good sound is out
> there, somewhere.
> 
> So I have tried to replace it... reinstalling, trying other kernel versions
> (including this new-fangled kernel 2.2.x thing which is apparently the
> greatest thing since sliced bread, but won't run on a computer with THREE
> SERIAL PORTS!!!  Ever heard of a machine so unusual?  I mean a shared IRQ
> that's like, IMPOSSIBLE isn't it??)
> 
> I tried recompiling my old drivers, 0.3.pre4 something, and could only do
> that if I installed gcc272 as well, and actually got them compiled.
> 
> Now I come to the subject line.  I have over a screenful of 
> depmod: *** Unresolved symbols in /lib/modules/2.0.36/misc/isapnp.o
> depmod: *** Unresolved symbols in /lib/modules/2.0.36/misc/persist.o
> depmod: *** Unresolved symbols in /lib/modules/2.0.36/misc/snd-ac97-codec.o
> depmod: *** Unresolved symbols in /lib/modules/2.0.36/misc/snd-ad1848.o
> depmod: *** Unresolved symbols in 
> /lib/modules/2.0.36/misc/snd-audiodrive1688.o
> depmod: *** Unresolved symbols in 
> /lib/modules/2.0.36/misc/snd-audiodrive18xx.o
> depmod: *** Unresolved symbols in /lib/modules/2.0.36/misc/snd-audiopci.o
> depmod: *** Unresolved symbols in /lib/modules/2.0.36/misc/snd-card-ad1848.o
> depmod: *** Unresolved symbols in /lib/modules/2.0.36/misc/snd-card-cs4231.o
> depmod: *** Unresolved symbols in /lib/modules/2.0.36/misc/snd-card-cs4232.o
> depmod: *** Unresolved symbols in /lib/modules/2.0.36/misc/snd-cs4231.o
> depmod: *** Unresolved symbols in /lib/modules/2.0.36/misc/snd-card-cs4236.o
> depmod: *** Unresolved symbols in /lib/modules/2.0.36/misc/snd-cs4236.o
> depmod: *** Unresolved symbols in /lib/modules/2.0.36/misc/snd-detect.o
> 
> ... and so on. 
> 
> How on the planet do I resolve them?  Yes, they're all the alsa modules, so
> what?  How do I fix this?  I have a very limited time to hack and I don't
> like spending 4 hours fixing something that was working fine.
> 
> Thanks for bearing with me in my misery, and please, give SOME indication
> that someone is out there that has done this before???
> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> Jonathan Markevich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> http://members.xoom.com/JMarkevich
> 
> There is no grief which time does not lessen and soften.
> 
> 
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> Unsubscribe?  mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] < /dev/null
> 

Re: Networking

[Ron Rademaker]

I'm kinda in a similar situtation as (if there are any errrors in this
txte it's because I'm am currently drunk) you are. What i  have is one
computer that is my server and a secind thgat is my workstation (s3erver
p100 and workstaionathlon 500). On my workstaion I use both linux ad
windshit, IP masquerading is very easy in th e 2.2.x kernel with
ipchains.
If you want more info mail me back and I will reply with less alcohol ion
my body (perhaps that more to your liking.)

Ron

On Sat, 18 Mar 2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> I have a question about networking.. here's the situation:
> 
> I have 2 Debian boxes with Ethernet cards, & respective cabling. I have an
> on-campus Ethernet connection, with 1 static IP & 1 etherjack allocated to me.
> Currently, I have the two PC's both online and configured to use the static
> IP, 160.94.138.145. I read the Net-3 & IP-Masq Howtos, and I am pretty sure I
> can configure one of the boxes as a firewall if I must.
> 
> Currently, I have only one box connected to the internet at a time, and I have
> to ifconfig eth0 down on one box, plug the RJ-45 into the other box, and
> ifconfig up on the other one. I'd like to be able to have both online at once,
> though. (Especially since the main thing I want to do with one of them is play
> around with remote X apps.) 
> 
> The question I have, which I don't think I could glean form the Howtos, is,
> what other hardware do I need?
> 
> If I get an Ethernet hub with, say, 8 ports, can I connect one port to the
> jack on the wall, and two more of the ports to the NIC's on my boxes? Or do I
> need a third NIC on one of the computers that will be connected directly to
> the hub?
> 
> I guess my real question is, can I do a connect like this:
> 
>  inet > hub ---> box1
>  |
>  +-> box2 
> 
> or do i need to do this:
> 
>  inet ---> box1 ---> hub ---> box2
> 
> And, if I do that second setup, won't I need two NIC's on box1, one ingoing &
> one outgoing?
> 
> Colin McMillen 
> 
> 
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RealPlayer, frozen and frustration

[mcclosk]

A day or two ago I took the plunge and upgraded to frozen. A few small
glitches, but they were easily dealt with and mostly I was very
pleased by how smooth and how straightforward the upgrade process
was. Thanks and praise to the developers.

I have one problem however.

I had three versions of RealPlayer on my slink system---RealPlayer 7,
RealPlayer G2 and RealPlayer 5.0. I had the three versions because
there are certain sites that I visit regularly whose archived files
always produce an error when I atttempt to listen to them with more
recent versions of Real Player than 5.0 (the error-message is `Invalid
Metafile'; the real.com site contains the helpful information that
this is not a common error-message). So for those files. I would use
version 5. (All of these versions were installed by hand in
/usr/local.)

Now that I've upgraded to frozen, though, rvplayer5.0 always produces
a segmentation fault; G2 has expired; and the performance I get with
RealPlayer 7 (on the files that it will accept) is not great (it
doesn't seem to handle buffering very well). 

This doesn't feel like progress. What I would like most is to be able
to run the old version (5.0) in frozen. Does anyone know of a way to
solve the seg-fault problem? Or any insight into the `Invalid
Metafile' problem?

Thanks very much,

Jim

Desktop

[Sandy Shapiro]

First, I want to thank all who helped me install my printer. Running
magicfilterconfig was the anwser.

Now I would like to know how to enable the GNOME desktop. It came with my
Debian/GNU Linux package, and I tried using "dselect."

So far I have several window managers available: fvwm95, olwm, icewm,
wmaker, and scwm. One of them automatically loads at boot up.

I have searched through the various applications in the window manager,
but I see no desktop. Do I have to edit a configuration file somewhere? Or
do I need to go through the dselect process again?

Thanks,

Sandy Shapiro

Re: Desktop

[Percival]

You do have to edit configuration file.  Look in 
/usr/doc/gnome-core/README.Debian (actually, it probably exists in each of the 
/urs/doc/gnome* dirs).  It tells you how to do it through .xinitrc or with xdm.

Gnome should work wiht all of those windows managers (are there window managers 
that DON'T work with gnome?) but some are more 'gnomeified' than others.

-Percival

On Sat, Mar 18, 2000 at 09:03:51PM -0500, Sandy Shapiro wrote:
> First, I want to thank all who helped me install my printer. Running
> magicfilterconfig was the anwser.
> 
> Now I would like to know how to enable the GNOME desktop. It came with my
> Debian/GNU Linux package, and I tried using "dselect."
> 
> So far I have several window managers available: fvwm95, olwm, icewm,
> wmaker, and scwm. One of them automatically loads at boot up.
> 
> I have searched through the various applications in the window manager,
> but I see no desktop. Do I have to edit a configuration file somewhere? Or
> do I need to go through the dselect process again?
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Sandy Shapiro
> 
> 
> 
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ppp -- unauthorized remote IP address

[Hamish Moffatt]

Setting up a new dialin PPP server, and getting "unauthorized remote IP
address" upon dialin (from Win95/98). Had this problem last week
and fixed it by editing the pap-secrets file, but the same trick
hasn't worked this time.

Here's the options file:

ms-dns 203.14.18.1
ms-dns 203.63.216.19
asyncmap 0
auth
crtscts
lock
modem
proxyarp
lcp-echo-interval 30
lcp-echo-failure 4
noipx
show-password

And options.ttyS2

silly:dialup-1

And the pap-secrets file:

*   silly   ""  *
guest   silly   "*" -
master  silly   "*" -
rootsilly   "*" -
support silly   "*" -
stats   silly   "*" -

# some dialout connections..
silly   *   password
hamish * ''


Any ideas?


thanks
Hamish, stumped.
-- 
Hamish Moffatt VK3SB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Re: Promise Ultra 66

[Brian Lavender]

On Sat, Mar 18, 2000 at 02:34:16PM +0100, J.H.M. Dassen Ray" wrote:
> On Fri, Mar 17, 2000 at 21:32:35 -0800, Brian Lavender wrote:
> > but it just flashes the characters
> > 
> > 2FA:
> 
> That's from the Master Boot Record program. 

I guess you are correct about this, because I took the drive and 
reformated it with dos, and it was able to boot. Does this mean
I am going to have to create a dos partition on the disk, and put
loadlin in it with the kernel, and have an autoexec which will in
turn boot linux?

Now, I did find the IDE patches, and I was able to create a boot disk
that will boot my system and find the drive on the controller. It would
just be nice if that MBR with lilo could start up my disk.

I will have to take a closer look at the UDMA howto. In the meantime,
I am having trouble with fmt seeing the full size of the disk. I have
the Large Drive HOWTO, but that does not seem to tell me exactly what
I need to type in, so fmt will use the proper parameters and see the full
20 Gigs.

Side note, my scsi system sure does seem a whole lot easier. Perhaps twice
the price for the same drive space is not so bad after all.

brian

> 
> > I also tried booting with a floppy with IDE support, but it won't
> > detect it either.
> 
> The bootfloppies for Slink don't handle UDMA66. You need to use bootfloppies
> with a kernel on them that's patched for UDMA66 support (using the IDE
> patches from ftp.kernel.org:/pub/linux/kernel/people/hedrick/). I'm not sure
> if potato's bootfloppies (will) support UDMA66.
> 
> HTH,
> Ray
> -- 
> UNFAIR  Term applied to advantages enjoyed by other people which we tried 
> to cheat them out of and didn't manage. See also DISHONESTY, SNEAKY, 
> UNDERHAND and JUST LUCKY I GUESS. 
> - The Hipcrime Vocab by Chad C. Mulligan  
> 
> 
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http://www.brie.com/brian/

strange thing in pap-secrets

[Hamish Moffatt]

Hi,

On one of my servers, I had to put this in pap-secrets to allow dialins:

# Every regular user can use PPP and has to use passwords from /etc/passwd
*   silly   ""  *
hamish  silly   ""  203.14.18.2
charles silly   ""  203.14.18.2

without the particular user/IP lines, it wouldn't connet; "unauthorized
remote IP address." The IPs are specified in the options.ttyS* files.

This server is running 2.3.11-1.3; I have another server running
2.3.11-1.1 which is working just fine. 

Any thoughts?
Hamish
-- 
Hamish Moffatt VK3SB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Re: RealPlayer, frozen and frustration

[Joey Hess]

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Now that I've upgraded to frozen, though, rvplayer5.0 always produces
> a segmentation fault; G2 has expired; and the performance I get with
> RealPlayer 7 (on the files that it will accept) is not great (it
> doesn't seem to handle buffering very well). 
> 
> This doesn't feel like progress. What I would like most is to be able
> to run the old version (5.0) in frozen. Does anyone know of a way to
> solve the seg-fault problem? Or any insight into the `Invalid
> Metafile' problem?

Well, strictly speaking, the expiry of g2 has nothing to do with you
upgrading.

I've had reports that installing librx1 fixes the segfault problems. If
that doesn't work you can always run it in a chrooted slink system or
something. It's a library incompatability issue of some kind.

-- 
see shy jo

pass boot disk kernel parameters?

[Brian Lavender]

How do you create a boot disk where you can pass it kernel parameters
such as

disk=linear
append = "hd=683,16,38 hd=64,32,202"

I just grabbed the append specification from LILO stuff in the Running
Linux book [129]. The book says how to add it in lilo, but gives no
indication for putting the information onto a kernel boot disk.

Is there a way that you can specify these parameters with
rdev? I mean can you do 

# rdev ./vmlinuz /dev/hda6 "hda=16383,16,63"

brain
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Re: XEmacs use 'Alt' as 'Meta'

[Brian Lavender]

I just use xkeycaps to redefine the keys.
Check dselect for it. Am I following this thread correctly?

brian

On Sat, Mar 18, 2000 at 04:55:23PM -0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> 
> I've been rather fighting the inconsistancies myself. I might get to
> fixing up console someday.
> 
> Oh yeah, there's something called ICCCM which xemacs follows under X which
> among other things describes  a method (IMO the Right Way)  to
> consistantly read and interpret keypresses.
> 
> Basically (going from memory)
> 
> Apps like Enlightenment and gnome seem to assume that any key that
> generates "mod1" modifier is ALT
> ICCCM apps like xemacs assume that the "shift" keys that generate ALT_L
> and ALT_R with the same modifier bit, said bit not shared with any other
> "shift" keys, is ALT.
> Also assumes that the "shift" keys that generate META_L and META_R with a
> dictinct modifier bit (doesn't matter exactly WHICH modifier bit) is META.
> 
> I mean, you can map SHIFT_L and SHIFT_R to use "mod1" and Eterm will
> suddenly decide that pressing "SHIFT+R" will be ALT-R.
> 
> People in general don't seem to care, at least not the last time I brought
> up the subject. See the list archives and the bug system.
> 
> Heh, maybe I'll make a proposal in my spare time, if I could get at least
> one official developer to back me. This is on my list of peeves.
> 
> --
> Beiad Ian Q. Dalton
> 
> On 18 Mar 2000, Brian May wrote:
> 
> > > "Sean" == Sean 'Shaleh' Perry <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > 
> > Sean> On 16-Mar-2000 Joseph A. Martin wrote:
> > >> Hello, I feel like this should be a simple thing to do, but I
> > >> haven't been able to figure it out so far. I want XEmacs to my
> > >> Left Alt key as the Meta key. It works like that when I am
> > >> running XEmacs from the console. However, if I run XEmacs from
> > >> XWindows ESC is my meta key and Left-Alt is not recognized by
> > >> XEmacs. What do I need to change to have XEmacs in XWindows use
> > >> Left-Alt as the Meta key?
> > >> 
> > 
> > Sean> if you have one, the windows key is bound as meta.
> > 
> > Is it possible to use the windows key as meta in XEmacs for text mode
> > sessions? I don't like this inconsistency... Some combinations work,
> > others don't. Tested:
> > 
> > text mode console: alt --> meta
> > gnome-terminal:alt --> meta
> > xterm: windows --> meta
> > -- 
> > Brian May <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > 
> > 
> > -- 
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> 
> 
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Re: zip drive on linux

[Taupter]

"Arun V. Hodigere" wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> I was wondering if i could get a zip drive for linux. could
> anybody throw some light on this as to where i could get this ...
> 

Well, if you are using an internal model it will be easily mounted as
/dev/hdX4, and nothing more.

If you are using a paralel port ZipDrive, you may have to recompile your
kernel with some options enabled, as described in

/usr/doc/HOWTO/mini/ZIP-Drive.html

This page is lynx-friendly.


Claudio

Re: swat for samba???

[Brian Lavender]

I just searched for swat in dselect and found it. I found it in usual
debian sources. Are you using apt sources? I have Samba 2.0.5 listed
in dselect.

brian

On Fri, Mar 17, 2000 at 05:19:45PM +0100, FreeMan wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> I would like to use swat on my Linux-box for easier configuration of 
> samba. I thought it would be a seperate package, but couldn't find 
> it in dselect. Do I just have to enable swat by a parameter in a 
> configuration file or is it really a seperate package and I have to get 
> it from somewhere?
> 
> thanks for help!ks for help!

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Re: Is the following part of /etc/security/access.conf?

[Lehel Bernadt]

On Sun, 19 Mar 2000, Shaul Karl wrote:
> I have managed to mv files that I did not meant to. Can someone tell me if 
> the 
> following is part of /etc/security/access.conf?
> 
> [03:49:10 /tmp]$ cat /etc/security/access.conf 
> #%PAM-1.0
> auth   required pam_unix_auth.so
> accountrequired pam_unix_acct.so
> password   required pam_unix_passwd.so
> sessionrequired pam_unix_session.so
> 
> [03:50:18 /tmp]$ 
> 
> -- 
> Shaul Karl   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>   An elephant is a mouse with an operating system.
> 

This is definetly not /etc/security/access.conf.
It's a PAM access file (probably /etc/pam.d/other).

Re: gpm config for Logitech MouseMan+ PS/2

[Oswald Buddenhagen]

> What is the correct gpm configuration for a Logitech MouseMan+ PS/2
> three-button wheel mouse ? I keep getting the following message in my
> logs: 

_possibly_ the right config may be "imps" (IntelliMousePS/2) - but that's
just an idea ...

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Re: SMB printing problems - solved

[Stephan Hachinger]

Hello!

Yeah, I finally managed to set it up!!! I threw the magicfilter into the
trashcan and tried apsfilter. Not the .deb, but the newest (5.2 I think)
version from the author's homepage. And that can automatically be configured
to print via smbclient! It was so easy. I recommend it to all of you who
have any similar problems. It just works great!

No configuration work! No scripting! Almost easier than Windoze to set up
;-) (and working well though ;-)) !

Kind Regards,

Stephan Hachinger


> - Original Message -
> From: Percival <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: Stephan Hachinger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Cc: 
> Sent: Saturday, March 18, 2000 7:01 PM
> Subject: Re: SMB printing problems
>
>
> >
> > This isn't a solution to your particular problem, but I had similar
> difficulties setting up SMB, until I found SWAT.  I try to run a secure
box,
> so I have to start swat only when I need it, but once you figure swat out
> (easier) then smb is simple to configure.  It is a Debian package.
> >
> > On Sat, Mar 18, 2000 at 10:55:20AM +0100, Stephan Hachinger wrote:
> > > Hello!
> > >
> > > I've been trying to set up printing via SMB to an Epson Stylus Color
600
> > > printer (//stephan/stylus600). The smbprint works when I call it with
> > > "smbprint ". So, I wanted that the lpd sends the files to
the
> > > filter epson-filter-remote, which filters them with a magicfilter and
> then
> > > sends them to smbprint.
> > >
> > > But I did not succeed, although I tried to set it up according to some
> hints
> > > given in the debian-user archive.
> > >
> > > I attached my configuration files with their directories in a tar.gz.
> file.
> > > Can anyone please help me how to set it up? I'm currently using lpr
> 5.9-29
> > > (from hamm, I think) under a mixed slink/potato (glibc 2.1) system.
> > >
> > >
> > > Thanks, Kind regards,
> > >
> > > Stephan Hachinger
> >
> >
>

Re: Networking

[Oswald Buddenhagen]

> I have a question about networking.. here's the situation:
> 
> I have 2 Debian boxes with Ethernet cards, & respective cabling. I have an
> on-campus Ethernet connection, with 1 static IP & 1 etherjack allocated to me.
> Currently, I have the two PC's both online and configured to use the static
> IP, 160.94.138.145. I read the Net-3 & IP-Masq Howtos, and I am pretty sure I
> can configure one of the boxes as a firewall if I must.
> 

> I guess my real question is, can I do a connect like this:
> 
>  inet > hub ---> box1
>  |
>  +-> box2 
> 
> or do i need to do this:
> 
"of course" you cannot do so, because the second box would need a separate
global ip.

>  inet ---> box1 ---> hub ---> box2
> 
this is the right one, but you don't need the hub - a crossed tp-cable
would do it, too.

> And, if I do that second setup, won't I need two NIC's on box1, one ingoing &
> one outgoing?
> 
you need two nics.

the "inner" net is configured with local IPs, like 172.16.96.x or
192.168.1.x (which are reserved for this purpose).

read the IP-Masquerade mini-howto!

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Re: Promise Ultra 66

[Karl M. Hegbloom]

> "Ray" == Ray   writes:

Ray> On Fri, Mar 17, 2000 at 21:32:35 -0800, Brian Lavender wrote:
>> but it just flashes the characters
>> 
>> 2FA:

Ray> That's from the Master Boot Record program. 

>> I also tried booting with a floppy with IDE support, but it won't
>> detect it either.

Ray> The bootfloppies for Slink don't handle UDMA66. You need to use 
bootfloppies
Ray> with a kernel on them that's patched for UDMA66 support (using the IDE
Ray> patches from ftp.kernel.org:/pub/linux/kernel/people/hedrick/). I'm 
not sure
Ray> if potato's bootfloppies (will) support UDMA66.

 Oh, so _that_ is what the "ide" kernel is for.  I wish the long
 description in the package would at least describe what it's for...

 Should we create another flavor "ide"?

Re: alternatives to gnotepad+

[Chirag]

- Original Message - 
From: Sean Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: Adam Shand <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: Debian User List 
Sent: Saturday, March 18, 2000 7:28 AM
Subject: Re: alternatives to gnotepad+


> 
Hi 

I don't know anything about gnotepad+.
But would vile(xvile) another vi clone a solution ?
I haven't tried it yet. This info is courtesy of another 
deb user. He says it is very efficient and he hates
emacs
 
Also what about kedit part of KDE. It  opens more than
one file simultaneously.

Cheers

Previ

Mounting Sound Blaster Pro CD-ROM

[David Densmore]

I just installed an old Sound Blaster Pro CD-ROM and compiled kernel
support for it.  I think I have done everything right because the boot
messages list it at the right address and it seems to be named sbpcd-0.
It is also listed in /proc/devices as a block device.

But I can't figure out how to mount it.  I've tried things like:

mount -t iso9660 /dev/sbpcd-0 /cdrom
  "" "  /dev/sbpcd0 "
  "" "  sbpcd-0 "

and every combination and permutation I can think of, but I just can't
figure out the proper command.  Anyone happen to know this?

Thank you,
David Densmore <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Re: Frozen, rsync

[Antonio Rodriguez]

Colin Watson wrote:

> [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Antonio Rodriguez) wrote:
> >Is there any way of knowing which packages from the frozen portion are
> >already bug-free and completely ready to be included in the next release
> >2.2?
>
> You can't be sure, but you can probably get a fairly good idea from
> looking for the packages that aren't on the release-critical bugs list
> posted regularly to debian-devel-announce (see the mailing list archives
> at www.debian.org). We're now at the stage in the freeze where packages
> are only allowed to change for potato if they have release-critical bugs
> that need fixing, though core packages like libc6 and dpkg and debconf
> and the like may well be exceptions to this. I'd say, then, that if you
> made a list of all packages with priority Standard or lower and excluded
> those with RC bugs you'd get quite an accurate list.
>
> >The reason is that I plan to prepare my own CDs next time, so I
> >thought could be a good idea to start collecting packages so that when I
> >run the rsync it can get most from my hard disk storage. I wonder how
> >usable will the slink Cds be for that purpose.
>
> I'm not sure I understand this last bit ...
>

What I meant was: Perhaps part of the code from the slink packages is used in 
the code
for the new packages, hence could (???) be used by the rsync program when it is 
run. I
have no idea if it is possible. I noticed that, for example, xcdroast is about 
the
same version.

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>
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IP Masq'ing problem

[David Grill Watson]

I have a very strange problem with IP  masquerading.  If I just set it up for 
basic access (nothing unusual, just masquerading for the in-house LAN thru my 
box which has a RoadRunner connection), everything is peacy - except that my 
brother can't play Jedi Knight over the 'net.

I know how to set it up to do that, and it's actually fairly simple:

/usr/sbin/ipmasqadm autofw -A -r udp 2300 2400 -h 192.168.0.6 
/usr/sbin/ipmasqadm autofw -A -r tcp 2300 2400 -h 192.168.0.6 
 
(192.168.0.6 is his computer when it's in windows)

But that has one very obnoxious side affect - after a while (half an hour? an 
hour?), I can connect to no websites (it says it's contacting them, but no 
reply) from either the masq'ing box or machines behind it.  I can, however, 
use ICQ and ssh with no problems at all.

The problems don't go away if I stop the masquerading for those ports - and 
even if I unload the kernel module!  The only way I can fix it is to reboot.

If anyone has the slightest idea what might be the problem, please let me 
know - it's driving all of us nuts!

-DGW

PS: I'm using kernel 2.2.14, and the latest woody, just in case you want to 
know.

Re: Mounting Sound Blaster Pro CD-ROM

[Oswald Buddenhagen]

> I just installed an old Sound Blaster Pro CD-ROM and compiled kernel
> support for it.  I think I have done everything right because the boot
> messages list it at the right address and it seems to be named sbpcd-0.
> It is also listed in /proc/devices as a block device.
> 
> But I can't figure out how to mount it.  I've tried things like:
> 
> mount -t iso9660 /dev/sbpcd-0 /cdrom
this one should be ok.
does the directory /cdrom exist? it must exist.
try "less /dev/sbpcd-0" to see, if it is a problem with the mounting
itself or with accessing the cd-rom.

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Re: no merit from using DMA-66?

[Vachirasuk]

Hi,

I think I am trying to measure data transfer rate from harddisk. I
have read UDMA-mini-HOWTO on LDP site and it also said "UDMA drives
will give you between 10 and 15 MB/s using UDMA mode 2 (33 MB/s) or 4
(66 MB/s) enabled". If the DTR never gets higher than 33MB/sec then
why use DMA-66, since there is no performance improvement? How come
benchmark under Win98 gave me DTR of DMA-66 drive 2 times of normal
DMA-33 drive? Am I misunderstanding something here?

Confused

Vachi

-
Vachirasuk Setalaphruk
ISE, Osaka University

From: "Stephan Hachinger" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: no merit from using DMA-66?
Date: Sat, 18 Mar 2000 21:35:53 +0100

> Hello!
> 
> Are you really sure you're measuring the maximal bus speed?
> 
> Because the bus speed (UDMA33=33MB/sec; UDMA66=66MB/sec) is only the maximum
> data rate which can be transferred. However, the magnetic disk can never be
> that fast, so that data rates of 16MB/sec are quite normal and not bad.
> 25MB/sec must be a very good hard disk. So, just don't worry, this high data
> rates can only be reached if the data comes from the HDD cache over the bus.
> 
> Kind Regards,
> 
> Stephan Hachinger
> 

Re: IP Masq'ing problem

[Oswald Buddenhagen]

> I have a very strange problem with IP  masquerading.  If I just set it up for 
> basic access (nothing unusual, just masquerading for the in-house LAN thru my 
> box which has a RoadRunner connection), everything is peacy - except that my 
> brother can't play Jedi Knight over the 'net.
>
> [...]
> 
> If anyone has the slightest idea what might be the problem, please let me 
> know - it's driving all of us nuts!
> 
you wanted any ideas, so here is mine:
possibly the winblows game does not close sockets, but opens more and more
new ones, which leads to some kind of resource shortage in the linux
kernel. try what happens, if you shutdown the machine on which the game
runs and wait some time (i have no idea, how long). the masqueraded
connections should time-out after a couple of time - look at the kernel
source to see, how long. 
this is not proved knowledge, but something i darkly remember from my
kernel studies ...

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MS Frontpage

[Werner Reisberger]

Does anybody know how to install Frontpage Server Extension on a Debian
system with libc6? 

I was able to compile Apache with the frontpage module but the installation
of the extension failed becaused the binary therein are compiled against
libc5 and there aren't any sources @=

I hate this stuff but some customers wants it.

-- Werner

Re: strange thing in pap-secrets

[Josip Rodin]

On Sun, Mar 19, 2000 at 04:54:14PM +1100, Hamish Moffatt wrote:
> On one of my servers, I had to put this in pap-secrets to allow dialins:
> 
> # Every regular user can use PPP and has to use passwords from /etc/passwd
> * silly   ""  *
> hamishsilly   ""  203.14.18.2
> charles   silly   ""  203.14.18.2
> 
> without the particular user/IP lines, it wouldn't connet; "unauthorized
> remote IP address." The IPs are specified in the options.ttyS* files.

Let me get this straight: you used this form:

usernamehostname""  *

And the client specified its own IP address, but it didn't work?

Try using ipcp-accept-local or ipcp-accept-remote options, and read
/usr/doc/ppp/README.STATIC-IP... I guess that could work.

I remember seeing a very similar problem once... I also remember fixing it
by typing the password in the pap-secrets :)

> This server is running 2.3.11-1.3; I have another server running
> 2.3.11-1.1 which is working just fine. 

No changes to pppd itself have been made between those two versions, just
packaging changes.

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Re: gpm config for Logitech MouseMan+ PS/2

[ferret]

On Sun, 19 Mar 2000, Oswald Buddenhagen wrote:

> > What is the correct gpm configuration for a Logitech MouseMan+ PS/2
> > three-button wheel mouse ? I keep getting the following message in my
> > logs: 
> 
> _possibly_ the right config may be "imps" (IntelliMousePS/2) - but that's
> just an idea ...

>From experience in my shop: "imps2" works with the retail Mman+ mice (the
logitech logo on top) but not with the OEM Mman+ mice (the mouse drawing
on top), and I think it's been posted before.

potato: mgetty and strange new behavior at startup

[Jesse Jacobsen]

I'm using mgetty on a modem so I can call in from elsewhere.  I also
have pppd set up to use the same modem to dial out.  This arrangement
was working quite well for a long time.  Now at startup, mgetty is not
releasing the modem, and if I kill it, init restarts it with the same
behavior.

The problem seems to be that exactly described in the mgetty info page
for BSD systems.  Quoting:

   I think it works quite well, except that the `VTIME' mechanism to
   timeout `read()' calls doesn't work in older *BSD versions. If
   `mgetty' hangs, with the last line in the log file being something
   like "waiting for line to clear", upgrade your kernel, or, if you
   can't do that, compile `mgetty' with `-DBROKEN_VTIME' (in that case,
   select() will be used).

I get this impression from the log file, which says:

03/19 07:02:23 yS2  mgetty: experimental test release 1.1.21-Jul24
03/19 07:02:23 yS2  check for lockfiles
03/19 07:02:23 yS2   checklock: stat failed, no file
03/19 07:02:23 yS2  locking the line
03/19 07:02:23 yS2   makelock(ttyS2) called
03/19 07:02:23 yS2   do_makelock: lock='/var/lock/LCK..ttyS2'
03/19 07:02:23 yS2   lock made
03/19 07:02:24 yS2   tio_get_rs232_lines: status: RTS CTS DSR DTR RI
03/19 07:02:24 yS2  lowering DTR to reset Modem
03/19 07:02:24 yS2   tss: set speed to 38400 (017)
03/19 07:02:24 yS2   tio_set_flow_control( HARD )
03/19 07:02:24 yS2   waiting for line to clear (VTIME), read: 

I say this behavior occurs at startup because the last time I started
up (about a week or more ago) I manually removed the inittab entry for
mgetty, locked ttyS2, reinserted the inittab entry, and once ttyS2 was
unlocked, mgetty behaved normally.  Maybe this was a fluke.

The only think I can think of is that mgetty's using a depreciated
/proc interface that I didn't compile compatibility for in my latest
kernel.

Other ideas?  Solutions?

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Re: gpm config for Logitech MouseMan+ PS/2

[FIOL BONNIN Antonio]

I have a similar problem. Everything is OK with X with config:

Section "Pointer"
Protocol"IMPS/2"
Device  "/dev/mouse"
ZAxisMapping 4 5
EndSection

With gpm, I have tried type=imps2. No good, but...
when switching off gpm (/etc/init.d/gpm stop) with that config, and
relaunching it with type=ps2 in the config file (as I had it before trying
to use the wheel), it works.

Any ideas?

Thank you!

Antonio

Re: want to install debian over redhat

[Chirag]

- Original Message -
From: Julie San Shang Lin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Saturday, March 18, 2000 11:17 PM
Subject: want to install debian over redhat

Did you try  making installation boot disks and start installation from
them?
If you have enough disk space it is better to have a separate installation
rather than replacing  redhat.

Previ

> Hi All,
>
> When I try to install Debian 2.1 from the CD, the system hangs with
> the following error message:
>
> VFS kernel panic unable to mount root fs on 01:00
>
> I have tried various workarounds including:
>
> linux root=/dev/hdc
>
> which kind of worked but then ended up with unable to load initial
> console.
>
> This appears to be a common problem,
> however I have not seen a solution out there that has worked.
> Any assistance would be appreciated.  Thanks

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FreeS/WAN as debian package?

[Wojciech Zabolotny]

Hi All,

I trid to find the FreeS/Wan package ( http://www.freeswan.org )
in the debian non-us ditribution. However I was unable to find it.
Are there any plans to include it?
-- 
TIA
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http://www.ise.pw.edu.pl/~wzab

http://www.freedos.org  Free DOS for free people!

Making the "Windows" key work

[Eric Hagglund]

Can someone explain (or point me to the correct
documentation for) the procedure for making the
Windows key pop up the start menu for the kde, fvwm or
icewm desktops? 

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URGENT: libwww-perl: automated form filling

[Alberto Maurizi]

Hi all, Debian people.

I'm quite new to perl and, in particular to libwww-perl.
I fell on it because I was looking for some API to write
www clients to automatically fill forms.

The problem I have is that I cannot get the same result from
the server as I obtain using a web browser. What happens is
that the result is the same document I use as HTTP::Request while,
if I use a web browser, clicking the submit button I get 
a "second" document.

Does anybody know/understand the problem?
Where to find source of information/examples?
Is there any better solution than libwww-perl?
(note that the problem persists using "lynx -post_data")

Thanks in advance,
Alberto Maurizi

police dimension on X

[herve]

I upgraded my Potatoe for one month, since a little problem appears:
the font dimension is big on certain applications ( for example
Netscape, the gimp...) and I can't modify their. I try to modify
XF86Config without effect.
Is anybody meeting the same problem? 
>From what may this problem come from?

Hervé BRUNEL

Re: gpm config for Logitech MouseMan+ PS/2

[Oswald Buddenhagen]

> I have a similar problem. Everything is OK with X with config:
> 
> Section "Pointer"
> Protocol"IMPS/2"
> Device  "/dev/mouse"
> ZAxisMapping 4 5
> EndSection
> 
> With gpm, I have tried type=imps2. No good, but...
> when switching off gpm (/etc/init.d/gpm stop) with that config, and
> relaunching it with type=ps2 in the config file (as I had it before trying
> to use the wheel), it works.
> 
hehe - i had the reverse effect: when x is configured for imps/2, then i
HAVE TO run gpm with imps2 - in the other case i get only protocoll
errors.

as somebody already mentioned before me, only one type of logitech-mice
works well for sure: the boxed version. the oem version has a zilog-chip,
which is (was(?)) not supported. the so-called "bulk"-version might work
or not. newer versions seem not to work (they have the zilog-chip also).
there is a reference to a nice page about wheel-mice in the
3-button-mouse mini-howto. the url is
http://www.inria.fr/koala/colas/mouse-wheel-scroll/

however - X has (had(?)) the problem with the zilog chips, too. but
possibly this has been fixed.

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X stability issue

[Sven Esbjerg]

Hi

I'm wondering how other debian potato-boxes behaves in X. I have a 2 month old
potato system running on a dual-celeron, 256Mbyte ram and a Matrox G400. The
kernel is a patched 2.2.14 (using the IDE-patch from hedrik). X freezes totally
after a few days of use. Sometimes I'm able to go to a console and kill X as
root other times it's necessary to log in from another workstation and kill X
remotely - this is due to fact the my keyboard freezes too...
Today it went really awfull. I wanted to try CivCTP on Linux to test the
performance of my box. In the middle of the game everything freezes and I turn
to another workstation to kill X remotely. This time it's not enough. I have to
reboot the machine to get some new output on the monitor.

Now my questions are:
Has anyone else experienced the same kind of instability?
Does anyone know if this could be due to...
- kernel instability?
- X instability?
- my hardware?
- potato instability?

The fact is that I really hate to reboot my machine - it feels like I'm running
Windows.
X is XFree86 version 3.3.6-6 (svga). Mboard is Abit BP6 (not OC'ed).


Regards
Sven Esbjerg

I have a hardware question.

[Charlie Ebert]

I am currently running Mandrake 7.0 Air and have become inspired by
Debian.
I want to run Debian.

Currently , (Air) supports my Ultra 66 Hard drive and my Sound Blaster
Live audio card.

If I install Slink, do I get support for these two peices of hardware?
Or do I have to wait for Potato to come out?

I've spent 5-6 days attempting to find the answer to this question
looking at other sources and
I can't seem to answer my question alone.

I know these two hardware items ARE supported in the LINUX of today but
does the LINUX of today
cover any of the 2.1 releases???

Thanks in advance

Charlie

Re: URGENT: libwww-perl: automated form filling

[Paul J. Keenan]

On Sun, Mar 19, 2000 at 07:22:13PM +0100, Alberto Maurizi wrote:
> 
>   Hi all, Debian people.
> 
>   I'm quite new to perl and, in particular to libwww-perl.
>   I fell on it because I was looking for some API to write
>   www clients to automatically fill forms.
> 
>   The problem I have is that I cannot get the same result from
>   the server as I obtain using a web browser. What happens is
>   that the result is the same document I use as HTTP::Request while,
>   if I use a web browser, clicking the submit button I get 
>   a "second" document.
> 
>   Does anybody know/understand the problem?
>   Where to find source of information/examples?
>   Is there any better solution than libwww-perl?
>   (note that the problem persists using "lynx -post_data")
> 
>   Thanks in advance,
>   Alberto Maurizi

Please don't use a subject containing URGENT unless there is some reason
for it.  Is a nuclear reactor likely to go into meltdown if you don't
solve this within 2 hours ?

If you don't post the code in your program which you suspect to be
wrong, you will receive little help other that general guidelines.
Post the code.  We are not psychics.  (Well, I'm not, anyway :-)

Documentation.  If there is a Guiness Book of World Records award for
quantity and quality of free documentation.  I'm fairly sure the answer
you need lies in the HTTP::Request or HTTP::Request::Common manpages.
The latter has an example POSTing to a web server.

Unless you are doing something advanced, (and in most instances if you
are) libwww-perl will do everything you need.  Better to solve the
problem using the appropriate tool than embark on a different solution
with an inferior one.

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Re: X stability issue

[Oswald Buddenhagen]

hi sven,

i'm experiencing this kind of freezes, too.
i also use kernel 2.2.14, but i'm not running debian (but suse) and use
xfree 3.3.5.
the programm that causes these freezes _seems_ to be netscape, but who
knows for sure ...
maybe because i own an abit board, too (it's a bx6) ...

> I'm wondering how other debian potato-boxes behaves in X. I have a 2 month old
> potato system running on a dual-celeron, 256Mbyte ram and a Matrox G400. The
> kernel is a patched 2.2.14 (using the IDE-patch from hedrik). X freezes 
> totally
> after a few days of use. Sometimes I'm able to go to a console and kill X as
> root other times it's necessary to log in from another workstation and kill X
> remotely - this is due to fact the my keyboard freezes too...
> Today it went really awfull. I wanted to try CivCTP on Linux to test the
> performance of my box. In the middle of the game everything freezes and I turn
> to another workstation to kill X remotely. This time it's not enough. I have 
> to
> reboot the machine to get some new output on the monitor.
> 
> Now my questions are:
> Has anyone else experienced the same kind of instability?
> Does anyone know if this could be due to...
>   - kernel instability?
>   - X instability?
>   - my hardware?
>   - potato instability?
> 
> The fact is that I really hate to reboot my machine - it feels like I'm 
> running
> Windows.
> X is XFree86 version 3.3.6-6 (svga). Mboard is Abit BP6 (not OC'ed).
> 

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Re: I have a hardware question.

[Sven Esbjerg]

On Sun, Mar 19, 2000 at 01:05:08PM -0600, Charlie Ebert wrote:
> Currently , (Air) supports my Ultra 66 Hard drive and my Sound Blaster
> Live audio card.
> 
> If I install Slink, do I get support for these two peices of hardware?
> Or do I have to wait for Potato to come out?

If you install Slink you will _not_ be able to use the mentioned hardware. I
don't even know about potato (aka 2.2). UDMA-66 is not supported in the
standard 2.2 kernel that potato uses. I don't know if the kernel-images will be
patched eventually. The same goes for SB-Live. However you can allways install
from the UDMA-33 contoller patch and rebuild your kernel and then switch
controller. The SB-Live software is a kernel module that you can add easely
yourself.

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Re: Networking

[Hecubus]

On Sun, 19 Mar 2000, Oswald Buddenhagen wrote:

> > I guess my real question is, can I do a connect like this:
> > 
> >  inet > hub ---> box1
> >  |
> >  +-> box2 

> "of course" you cannot do so, because the second box would need a
> separate global ip.

Yes, you can do so, as long as you tell box2 to route its traffic through
box1. You did know that the gateway is a wholly logical and not physical
connection, didn't you? If it's possible to give Box2 a global IP, then do
it. Conversely, box2 can have an internal IP, but that doesn't mean that
it needs to be directly physically connected to box1. 

> >  inet ---> box1 ---> hub ---> box2

> this is the right one, but you don't need the hub - a crossed tp-cable
> would do it, too.

...unless you want to add more boxes at any point.

> > And, if I do that second setup, won't I need two NIC's on box1, one
> > ingoing & one outgoing?

> you need two nics.

...for setup2; not setup1. You can assign multiple IPs to 1 NIC.


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Re: I have a hardware question.

[Andrei Ivanov]

[snip]
> I know these two hardware items ARE supported in the LINUX of today but
> does the LINUX of today
> cover any of the 2.1 releases???

The support for devices is not in Linux distributions, but in the kernel
itself. Currently, the default kernel installed in slink is the 2.0.36
series, but you can download and install latest kernel without any
problems (www.linuxhq.com)
Andrew


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Re: I have a hardware question.

[Marshal Kar-Cheung Wong]

> "Charlie" == Charlie Ebert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> I am currently running Mandrake 7.0 Air and have become inspired
> by Debian.  I want to run Debian.

> Currently , (Air) supports my Ultra 66 Hard drive and my Sound
> Blaster Live audio card.

> If I install Slink, do I get support for these two peices of
> hardware?  Or do I have to wait for Potato to come out?

I'm pretty sure that slink will not support these two.  Actually, I
don't thing Debian will ever support SB Live right out of the box due
to the licencing of the SB Live drivers.  You'll have to roll your
own, which I think has been fairly successful.  (People are free to
Correct me if I'm wrong.)  

As for Ultra-66, I'm not sure if that made it into frozen.  I thought
that Ultra-66 is only in the 2.3+ kernels...But I don't have one, so I
can't say from experience.

> I've spent 5-6 days attempting to find the answer to this
> question looking at other sources and I can't seem to answer my
> question alone.

> I know these two hardware items ARE supported in the LINUX of
> today but does the LINUX of today cover any of the 2.1
> releases???

> Thanks in advance

> Charlie





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one machine, two IP addresses?

[Ross Boylan]

I usually dial-up to my ISP and get an assigned IP address for the session.
I am thinking of connecting my ethernet card to a network, so I might have 
two connections at once.


My understanding is that the IP address comes from the ethernet card 
(hmm... but then it couldn't be assigned in a local network, so probably 
this is wrong..).  At any rate, is there a problem with the machine doing 
both networks at once?


Thanks.

Re: Networking

[Oswald Buddenhagen]

> > > I guess my real question is, can I do a connect like this:
> > > 
> > >  inet > hub ---> box1
> > >  |
> > >  +-> box2 
> 
> > "of course" you cannot do so, because the second box would need a
> > separate global ip.
> 
> Yes, you can do so, as long as you tell box2 to route its traffic through
> box1. You did know that the gateway is a wholly logical and not physical
> connection, didn't you? If it's possible to give Box2 a global IP, then do
> it. Conversely, box2 can have an internal IP, but that doesn't mean that
> it needs to be directly physically connected to box1. 
> 
yes, you're perfectly right, but it would not work in my student's
dormitory, because our hubs lockup when they detect a unregistered
mac-address. also, it may run into conflict with other computers
configured that way.
well, these are configuration-specific questions ...

> > >  inet ---> box1 ---> hub ---> box2
> 
> > this is the right one, but you don't need the hub - a crossed tp-cable
> > would do it, too.
> 
> ...unless you want to add more boxes at any point.
> 
yes, but nobody mentioned more then one host to masquerade.

> > > And, if I do that second setup, won't I need two NIC's on box1, one
> > > ingoing & one outgoing?
> 
> > you need two nics.
> 
> ...for setup2; not setup1. You can assign multiple IPs to 1 NIC.
> 
as stated obove ...

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Re: one machine, two IP addresses?

[Oswald Buddenhagen]

> I usually dial-up to my ISP and get an assigned IP address for the session.
> I am thinking of connecting my ethernet card to a network, so I might have 
> two connections at once.
> 
> My understanding is that the IP address comes from the ethernet card 
> (hmm... but then it couldn't be assigned in a local network, so probably 
> this is wrong..).  At any rate, is there a problem with the machine doing 
> both networks at once?
> 
well, you can also configure multiple IPs for one NIC (see one of the
previous post). a dialup connection will have it's IP, too. and: you can
even set up dummy-devices with an own IP.
there would be absolutely no problem with your config.

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Re: Networking

[mcmi0037]

> > > I guess my real question is, can I do a connect like this:
> > > 
> > >  inet > hub ---> box1
> > >  |
> > >  +-> box2 
> 
> Yes, you can do so, as long as you tell box2 to route its traffic through
> box1. You did know that the gateway is a wholly logical and not physical
> connection, didn't you? If it's possible to give Box2 a global IP, then do
> it. Conversely, box2 can have an internal IP, but that doesn't mean that
> it needs to be directly physically connected to box1. 

So, given this configuration, I should be able to:
configure box1 to handle IP-Masq
ifconfig eth0 on box1 to the inet addr 160.94.138.145
add default route to my internet gateway (160.94.139.254) on box1
configure eth0 on box1 to the localnet addr 192.168.1.1 <-- how do i do this?
ifconfig eth0 on box2 to the localnet addr 192.168.1.2
add 192.168.1.1 as gateway machine for box2 

Is this right? And how do I set up the 1 NIC (on box1) to respond to both
160.94.138.145 and 192.168.1.1?

> > >  inet ---> box1 ---> hub ---> box2
> 
> > this is the right one, but you don't need the hub - a crossed tp-cable
> > would do it, too.
> 
> ...unless you want to add more boxes at any point.

I think I've decided I will go with a hub, because I may try something like
this at home over the summer, which would need to include 2 more boxes. And
the hub might come in handy anyways.

Thanks for the help,
Colin

KDE (was Re: alternatives to gnotepad+)

[Jonathan Nieder]

Also what about kedit part of KDE. It  opens more than
 one file simultaneously.


BTW, are there .debs for KDE in Debian?  I tried GNOME,
but it wasn't really my kind of desktop, and KDE looks
good.

Thanks,

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Re: Alt Keys -> Meta (under X11)

[Richard Klinda]

Hoi joostje, All!

> Does anyone know how to make the Alt keys generate Meta? 
> That is I want Alt-F to generate Meta-F (under Emacs, bash, etc).

I put these lines to my .Xclients:

##
xmodmap -e "clear mod1" 
xmodmap -e "keycode 64 = Meta_L" -e "add mod1 = Meta_L"
##

Now left alt generates the meta (in emacs 4 ex.)! But I have a problem
now: neither alt work in netscape!!

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Re: police dimension on X

[Eric G . Miller]

On Sun, Mar 19, 2000 at 06:40:09PM +, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> I upgraded my Potatoe for one month, since a little problem appears:
> the font dimension is big on certain applications ( for example
> Netscape, the gimp...) and I can't modify their. I try to modify
> XF86Config without effect.
> Is anybody meeting the same problem? 
> >From what may this problem come from?
> 
> Hervé BRUNEL

Are you using a font server? (xfs,xfstt). You want to reorder you font
dpis to 75,75,100,100 in /etc/X11/xfs/config. If your not using a font
server, then do a similar thing in /etc/X11/XF86Config by putting the
FontPath entries for /75dpi:unscaled and /75dpi
before the similar /100dpi versions. 

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How to configure ls colors

[Andreas Sliwka]

Hi,
  how do I configure the colors ls shows? I cant find any kind of manual
for this ... neither man ls nor info ls nor /usr/share/doc/fileutils ...

mfg
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RE: KDE (was Re: alternatives to gnotepad+)

[Bart Szyszka]

> BTW, are there .debs for KDE in Debian?  I tried GNOME,
> but it wasn't really my kind of desktop, and KDE looks
> good.

Yep, take a look at:
http://kde.tdyc.com

Unless I'm mistaken, KDE2 will be included in Debian's site because of
all the licensing changes, but for noe kde.tdyc.com is where you can get
KDE1 from.

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Re: X stability issue

[Bob Nielsen]

I'm seeing this with netscape 4.72 (libc6 version), 2.2.14 and
xserver-svga 3.3.6-6.  If I bring up netscape, click on the location
box and start to type, it will freeze every time.  If I wait a few
seconds after clicking on the box, the vertical cursor line will appear
in the box and I can type without incident.


On Sun, Mar 19, 2000 at 08:10:06PM +0100, Oswald Buddenhagen wrote:
> hi sven,
> 
> i'm experiencing this kind of freezes, too.
> i also use kernel 2.2.14, but i'm not running debian (but suse) and use
> xfree 3.3.5.
> the programm that causes these freezes _seems_ to be netscape, but who
> knows for sure ...
> maybe because i own an abit board, too (it's a bx6) ...
> 
> > I'm wondering how other debian potato-boxes behaves in X. I have a 2 month 
> > old
> > potato system running on a dual-celeron, 256Mbyte ram and a Matrox G400. The
> > kernel is a patched 2.2.14 (using the IDE-patch from hedrik). X freezes 
> > totally
> > after a few days of use. Sometimes I'm able to go to a console and kill X as
> > root other times it's necessary to log in from another workstation and kill 
> > X
> > remotely - this is due to fact the my keyboard freezes too...
> > Today it went really awfull. I wanted to try CivCTP on Linux to test the
> > performance of my box. In the middle of the game everything freezes and I 
> > turn
> > to another workstation to kill X remotely. This time it's not enough. I 
> > have to
> > reboot the machine to get some new output on the monitor.
> > 
> > Now my questions are:
> > Has anyone else experienced the same kind of instability?
> > Does anyone know if this could be due to...
> > - kernel instability?
> > - X instability?
> > - my hardware?
> > - potato instability?
> > 
> > The fact is that I really hate to reboot my machine - it feels like I'm 
> > running
> > Windows.
> > X is XFree86 version 3.3.6-6 (svga). Mboard is Abit BP6 (not OC'ed).
> > 
> 
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Re: X stability issue

[John Hasler]

Sven Esbjerg writes:
> I'm wondering how other debian potato-boxes behaves in X.

Mine does.

> I have a 2 month old potato system running on a dual-celeron, 256Mbyte
> ram and a Matrox G400. The kernel is a patched 2.2.14 (using the
> IDE-patch from hedrik).

Dual Pentium III, Tyan S1837UANG mb, 384MB RAM, Matrox G400, Adaptec 7896
UW2 SCSI, kernel compiled from kernel-source-2.2.14, xserver-svga 3.3.6-3.
Sound locks up the filesystem, but I've had no problems with X.  Current
uptime is five days.
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Re: How to configure ls colors

[Marshal Kar-Cheung Wong]

> "Andreas" == Andreas Sliwka <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Hi, how do I configure the colors ls shows? I cant find any kind
> of manual for this ... neither man ls nor info ls nor
> /usr/share/doc/fileutils ...

Try man dircolours and info dircolors.

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ATAPI tape drives.

[Edward Mulholland]

The linux hardward compatability HOWTO at 
http://www.linuxdoc.org/HOWTO/Hardware-HOWTO.html
says the following about ATAPI tape drives:

> ATAPI tape drives
> For these an alpha driver (ide-tape.c) is available in the kernel.
>
> ATAPI tape drives supported are 
>
> Seagate TapeStor 8000
> Conner CTMA 4000 IDE ATAPI Streaming tape drive 

Does anyone know whether these are the only supported ATAPI tape drives,
or just examples?  I received another model of ATAPI tape drive (Sony
SuperStation) as a gift and I want to be sure that it is totally useless
before I return it.

Thanks for reading my message,

Ed Mulholland

Re: How to configure ls colors

[Eric G . Miller]

On Sun, Mar 19, 2000 at 09:09:23PM +0100, Andreas Sliwka wrote:
> Hi, how do I configure the colors ls shows? I cant find any kind of
> manual for this ... neither man ls nor info ls nor
> /usr/share/doc/fileutils ...

>From man ls:
   --color[=WHEN]
  control  whether  color is used to distinguish file
  types.  WHEN may be `never', `always', or `auto'

I have this in my $HOME/.bashrc:

export LS_OPTIONS='--color=auto'
eval `dircolors`
alias ls='ls -F $LS_OPTIONS'   #The -F appends a character for type.
alias ll='ls $LS_OPTIONS -l'
alias l='ls $LS_OPTIONS -lA'


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Re: KDE (was Re: alternatives to gnotepad+)

[J.H.M. Dassen \(Ray\)]

On Sun, Mar 19, 2000 at 15:10:49 -0500, Bart Szyszka wrote:
> Unless I'm mistaken, KDE2 will be included in Debian's site because of
> all the licensing changes

You are probably mistaken. While there is a license change in that KDE2 uses
Qt2 which unlike Qt1 which KDE1 uses is free, the license under which Qt2 is
licensed (the QPL) is incompatible with the license of most of KDE2 (the
GPL).

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Re: Frozen, rsync

[Colin Watson]

[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Antonio Rodriguez) wrote:
>Colin Watson wrote:
>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Antonio Rodriguez) wrote:
>> >The reason is that I plan to prepare my own CDs next time, so I
>> >thought could be a good idea to start collecting packages so that when I
>> >run the rsync it can get most from my hard disk storage. I wonder how
>> >usable will the slink Cds be for that purpose.
>>
>> I'm not sure I understand this last bit ...
>
>What I meant was: Perhaps part of the code from the slink packages is
>used in the code for the new packages, hence could (???) be used by the
>rsync program when it is run. I have no idea if it is possible. I
>noticed that, for example, xcdroast is about the same version.

In an ideal world ...

Unfortunately, it doesn't really work like that. If you were compiling
everything from source then you might be able to take advantage of
common code (though only if rsync can see inside .tar.gz files, which I
rather doubt somehow).

However, I suspect you're collecting binary packages. In that case then
the fact that most packages will have been recompiled for glibc2.1
between slink and potato, and that rsync won't be able to deal with
those differences efficiently either, will clobber you too.

In a few cases you'll get lucky: xcdroast, as you mention, is the same
version in both distributions, so you won't need to download it again.
But by and large I'm afraid you'll just have to do the full downloads.

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help with ppp--> Linux-eth0-> windoze home network

[esoR ocsirF]

Hello fellow Dusers,
I am (and have been) trying to get my home machines running with the
following configuration. So Far I have had little success.

I have Debian Box (Potato) configured with ppp (Love it!)
My wife has a winblows box (Hate it!)
Both have ethernet cards and are cabled to each other.
Want to have dynamic ppp go up on Lin box when Win box asks 
for internet access. I think I also want some sort of IP masq. so that
Both boxes can use the net at the same time. Also want to print serve
for the win box (probably with samba) from the Lin box. It would be nice
to remote mount drive from lin box on win box but not necessary.

So far I can't even get the win box to ping my linux box. I have read
HOWTO's for Ethernet, NET-3, Networking, ... Have tried routing and
ifconfig to no avail.

Kernel Sees the ethernet card, Winbox sees the ethernet card, so I think
the hardware part is OK. This seems like a fairly common thing to do but
I have been getting nowhere. Is there a [mini-|]HOWTO somewhere on this
that I missed? Any help at all would be greatly appreciated. TIA
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Re: X stability issue

[Tommi Komulainen]

On Sun, Mar 19, 2000 at 07:58:34PM +0100, Sven Esbjerg wrote:
> Hi
> 
> I'm wondering how other debian potato-boxes behaves in X. I have a 2
> month old potato system running on a dual-celeron, 256Mbyte ram and a
> Matrox G400. The kernel is a patched 2.2.14 (using the IDE-patch from
> hedrik). X freezes totally after a few days of use. 

I'm running quite similar setup to your and I haven't had any lockups
after I flashed the BIOS. Before that I experienced crashes every now
and then, even without OC'ing. Since the BIOS flash I haven't had any
lockups, it's stable even if overclocked.

My system is a potato :), with 2.2.14 kernel compiled from the original
sources, Matrox Mystique 220, [EMAIL PROTECTED] dual-celeron and an Abit BP6.


-- 
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Re: no merit from using DMA-66?

[Stephan Hachinger]

Hello!

That has something to do with your hard disk cache. Because, when the data
requested by the PC happens to be in the internal cache (typically
512k-2megs), it can be transferrred to the mainboard at full bus speed rate!
That's an improvement of UDMA! And, the interfaces are always a little bit
faster, then the disks are getting faster, and then they make a new
interface standard again. That's how it always is, because, it is better to
not to have problems with a slow interface.

So, either your benchmark doesn't manage to switch off the cache for its
measure or it only shows you the highest bus speed rate. But, 33MB/66MB is
definitely not a data rate any recent IDE HDD can achieve.


Kind Regards,

Stephan Hachinger


- Original Message -
From: Vachirasuk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: 
Sent: Sunday, March 19, 2000 3:36 PM
Subject: Re: no merit from using DMA-66?


> Hi,
>
> I think I am trying to measure data transfer rate from harddisk. I
> have read UDMA-mini-HOWTO on LDP site and it also said "UDMA drives
> will give you between 10 and 15 MB/s using UDMA mode 2 (33 MB/s) or 4
> (66 MB/s) enabled". If the DTR never gets higher than 33MB/sec then
> why use DMA-66, since there is no performance improvement? How come
> benchmark under Win98 gave me DTR of DMA-66 drive 2 times of normal
> DMA-33 drive? Am I misunderstanding something here?
>
> Confused
>
> Vachi
>
> -
> Vachirasuk Setalaphruk
> ISE, Osaka University
>
> From: "Stephan Hachinger" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: no merit from using DMA-66?
> Date: Sat, 18 Mar 2000 21:35:53 +0100
>
> > Hello!
> >
> > Are you really sure you're measuring the maximal bus speed?
> >
> > Because the bus speed (UDMA33=33MB/sec; UDMA66=66MB/sec) is only the
maximum
> > data rate which can be transferred. However, the magnetic disk can never
be
> > that fast, so that data rates of 16MB/sec are quite normal and not bad.
> > 25MB/sec must be a very good hard disk. So, just don't worry, this high
data
> > rates can only be reached if the data comes from the HDD cache over the
bus.
> >
> > Kind Regards,
> >
> > Stephan Hachinger
> >
>

Re: How to configure ls colors

[Paul J. Keenan]

On Sun, Mar 19, 2000 at 12:25:06PM -0800, Eric G . Miller wrote:
> On Sun, Mar 19, 2000 at 09:09:23PM +0100, Andreas Sliwka wrote:
> > Hi, how do I configure the colors ls shows? I cant find any kind of
> > manual for this ... neither man ls nor info ls nor
> > /usr/share/doc/fileutils ...
> 
> >From man ls:
>--color[=WHEN]
> control  whether  color is used to distinguish file
> types.  WHEN may be `never', `always', or `auto'
> 
> I have this in my $HOME/.bashrc:
> 
> export LS_OPTIONS='--color=auto'
> eval `dircolors`
> alias ls='ls -F $LS_OPTIONS'   #The -F appends a character for type.
> alias ll='ls $LS_OPTIONS -l'
> alias l='ls $LS_OPTIONS -lA'

I think Andreas meant how to change the mapping between extension and
colour.  This is all controlled by the environment variable LS_COLORS.
I had to change this to show .mpeg in the same colour as .mpg

Enter 'set | grep LS_COLORS' to see the current value.

man dircolors tells you all you need to know.  

Basically, dump your existing colours to a file, e.g. to ~/.dircolors, 
using the -p option, then edit the file to suit your situation.  Full 
instructions concerning the values and properties are written into the 
file.

To use the file, use the following as part of your shell startup e.g.

export LS_OPTIONS='--color=always'
eval `dircolors ~/.dircolors`

inside your ~/.bashrc or equiv.

Hope that helps.

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Regards,
Paul

Re: X stability issue

[aphro]

this is normal, netscape is trying to resolve some domain names during
that point..and i guess because of its single-threadedness(?) that it
freezes during resolution(found it when running an strace on the process)

happens on every version of netscape/X i have used be it linux libc5 linux
libc6, or irix

nate


On Sun, 19 Mar 2000, Bob Nielsen wrote:

nielse >
nielse >I'm seeing this with netscape 4.72 (libc6 version), 2.2.14 and
nielse >xserver-svga 3.3.6-6.  If I bring up netscape, click on the location
nielse >box and start to type, it will freeze every time.  If I wait a few
nielse >seconds after clicking on the box, the vertical cursor line will appear
nielse >in the box and I can type without incident.
nielse >
nielse >
nielse >On Sun, Mar 19, 2000 at 08:10:06PM +0100, Oswald Buddenhagen wrote:
nielse >> hi sven,
nielse >> 
nielse >> i'm experiencing this kind of freezes, too.
nielse >> i also use kernel 2.2.14, but i'm not running debian (but suse) and 
use
nielse >> xfree 3.3.5.
nielse >> the programm that causes these freezes _seems_ to be netscape, but who
nielse >> knows for sure ...
nielse >> maybe because i own an abit board, too (it's a bx6) ...
nielse >> 
nielse >> > I'm wondering how other debian potato-boxes behaves in X. I have a 
2 month old
nielse >> > potato system running on a dual-celeron, 256Mbyte ram and a Matrox 
G400. The
nielse >> > kernel is a patched 2.2.14 (using the IDE-patch from hedrik). X 
freezes totally
nielse >> > after a few days of use. Sometimes I'm able to go to a console and 
kill X as
nielse >> > root other times it's necessary to log in from another workstation 
and kill X
nielse >> > remotely - this is due to fact the my keyboard freezes too...
nielse >> > Today it went really awfull. I wanted to try CivCTP on Linux to 
test the
nielse >> > performance of my box. In the middle of the game everything freezes 
and I turn
nielse >> > to another workstation to kill X remotely. This time it's not 
enough. I have to
nielse >> > reboot the machine to get some new output on the monitor.
nielse >> > 
nielse >> > Now my questions are:
nielse >> > Has anyone else experienced the same kind of instability?
nielse >> > Does anyone know if this could be due to...
nielse >> > - kernel instability?
nielse >> > - X instability?
nielse >> > - my hardware?
nielse >> > - potato instability?
nielse >> > 
nielse >> > The fact is that I really hate to reboot my machine - it feels like 
I'm running
nielse >> > Windows.
nielse >> > X is XFree86 version 3.3.6-6 (svga). Mboard is Abit BP6 (not OC'ed).
nielse >> > 
nielse >> 
nielse >> -- 
nielse >> Hi! I'm a .signature virus! Copy me into your ~/.signature, please!
nielse >> --
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Re: Promise Ultra 66

[Percival]

It really sucks, basically.  I found out that I had to track down the 
manufacturer of my large hard drive, get the specs from them, and then pass 
them on to cfdisk/fdisk and ignore the warnings that those programs gave me.  I 
also remember that one of them sinply would not work (fdisk, I think), so I had 
to use cfdisk and specify the CHS specs.  But then it worked great!  I was 
installing SuSE at the time, which has cfdisk in the install ramdisk.  Beware 
of strangeness - some drives have multiple CHS specs, as they respond to 
different 'virtual' setting.  

-Percival

On Sun, Mar 19, 2000 at 12:51:59PM -0800, Brian Lavender wrote:
> How do you specify the CHS specs? 
> 
> THis has been a big delima. The Large Hard Drive HOW-TO talks about it,
> and boom, doesn't say anything as far as how-to do it.
> 
> brian
> 
> On Sun, Mar 19, 2000 at 12:18:15PM -0800, Percival wrote:
> > 
> > I have found that with large drives (8G+) you have to manually specify the 
> > CHS specs to fdisk (or cfdisk) when creating partitions, or you end up with 
> > non-reliable partitions (I suspect that this might be true with fdisk under 
> > DOS as well).
> > 
> > I didn't think that ATA/66 specs added anything other than more data lines 
> > for faster data transfer.  Are there new specs for controll as well?
> > 
> > -Percival
> > 
> > On Sat, Mar 18, 2000 at 09:46:10PM -0800, Brian Lavender wrote:
> > > On Sat, Mar 18, 2000 at 09:41:43PM -0800, Percival wrote:
> > > > 
> > > > Do you have more than one drive in the computer?  
> > > 
> > > Yes, in fact I am doing raid1. 
> > > 
> > > I built one half of the raid, transferred the files to the raid from 
> > > regular
> > > partitions. changed the /etc/fstab to boot using the /dev/mdx devices, 
> > > rebooted,
> > > did a hotraidadd on the original devices, and there I was. 
> > > 
> > > I have been able to totally boot from a floppy. I have the kernel rdev to 
> > > /dev/hdc6 which is one half of the raid. 
> > > 
> > > Now I have a little more to this story. I booted with a dos disk. I 
> > > formatted
> > > the first disk with fat32, and the controller will totally boot to it. Now
> > > I am trying to go back and reformat that disk, and hotraidadd that half to
> > > it again. I also have the patched lilo, so it can boot a raid device. My 
> > > current
> > > problem is I can't get fmt to recognize the whole disk. When I start 
> > > format,
> > > it sees the 20 Gigs, but it says the existing partition is exceeding the 
> > > physical limits of the disk. In thought maybe I could just start adding 
> > > partitions, but it seems that once I reach 2 Gigs, that is the limit. So,
> > > partitioning is first. Then back to making the Ultra 66 boot. 
> > > 
> > > Like I believe I said, I could create a dos partition on the disk. That 
> > > would be a yucky kludge though.
> > >  
> > >  brian
> > > 
> > > > The reason I ask is that the error you are getting is far before linux 
> > > > gets involved.  It seems to me that you have two partitions set active 
> > > > (DOS terms) that is, two partitions set bootable (normal term).
> > > > 
> > > > Also, from what I understand, you do not need any special support or 
> > > > anything to use UDMA/66 drives - they are backward compatible.  You 
> > > > should be able to boot just fine from stock boot disks.  Get the system 
> > > > running first, then work on building a special kernel with full support 
> > > > for UDMA/66 to see the speed benefit.
> > > > 
> > > > -Percival
> > > > 
> > > > On Sat, Mar 18, 2000 at 09:32:29PM -0800, Brian Lavender wrote:
> > > > > On Sat, Mar 18, 2000 at 02:34:16PM +0100, J.H.M. Dassen Ray" wrote:
> > > > > > On Fri, Mar 17, 2000 at 21:32:35 -0800, Brian Lavender wrote:
> > > > > > > but it just flashes the characters
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > 2FA:
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > That's from the Master Boot Record program. 
> > > > > 
> > > > > I guess you are correct about this, because I took the drive and 
> > > > > reformated it with dos, and it was able to boot. Does this mean
> > > > > I am going to have to create a dos partition on the disk, and put
> > > > > loadlin in it with the kernel, and have an autoexec which will in
> > > > > turn boot linux?
> > > > > 
> > > > > Now, I did find the IDE patches, and I was able to create a boot disk
> > > > > that will boot my system and find the drive on the controller. It 
> > > > > would
> > > > > just be nice if that MBR with lilo could start up my disk.
> > > > > 
> > > > > I will have to take a closer look at the UDMA howto. In the meantime,
> > > > > I am having trouble with fmt seeing the full size of the disk. I have
> > > > > the Large Drive HOWTO, but that does not seem to tell me exactly what
> > > > > I need to type in, so fmt will use the proper parameters and see the 
> > > > > full
> > > > > 20 Gigs.
> > > > > 
> > > > > Side note, my scsi system sure does seem a whole lot easier. Perhaps 
> > > > > twice
> > > > > the price for the same dri

Re: help with ppp--> Linux-eth0-> windoze home network

[Percival]

How are you connecting the two machines?  If you do not have a hub, you need to 
have a crossover cable to go direct from one ethernet card to the other 
(adduming you are using 10/100baseT, not coax).  After figuring out that, you 
should be able to configure the rest.  Use swat for the samba configuration 
(for both the printer and the share), and debian does a wonderful job of 
getting ip masquerading correctly the first shot out of the box (most of the 
time); you just need to install ipmasq package or ipchains, and compile the 
kernel for ip forwarding and all the options mentioned in ip masq. howto.

-Percival

On Sun, Mar 19, 2000 at 12:54:44PM -0800, esoR ocsirF wrote:
> Hello fellow Dusers,
> I am (and have been) trying to get my home machines running with the
> following configuration. So Far I have had little success.
> 
> I have Debian Box (Potato) configured with ppp (Love it!)
> My wife has a winblows box (Hate it!)
> Both have ethernet cards and are cabled to each other.
> Want to have dynamic ppp go up on Lin box when Win box asks 
> for internet access. I think I also want some sort of IP masq. so that
> Both boxes can use the net at the same time. Also want to print serve
> for the win box (probably with samba) from the Lin box. It would be nice
> to remote mount drive from lin box on win box but not necessary.
> 
> So far I can't even get the win box to ping my linux box. I have read
> HOWTO's for Ethernet, NET-3, Networking, ... Have tried routing and
> ifconfig to no avail.
> 
> Kernel Sees the ethernet card, Winbox sees the ethernet card, so I think
> the hardware part is OK. This seems like a fairly common thing to do but
> I have been getting nowhere. Is there a [mini-|]HOWTO somewhere on this
> that I missed? Any help at all would be greatly appreciated. TIA
> -- 
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Free Internet... ?

[Percival]

I apologize, but I remember that several days ago someone was talking about a 
free web access deal.  Some company who pays for free internet access by 
putting advertising on their hompage, and requesting users to load it as their 
start page.  It worked with linux, which was the prime factor.

I lost those messages, and I need to find this service again (I also lost the 
bookmark).  Anyway, if anyone's got the info out there, please e-mail me.

Thanks,

-Percival

Re: help with ppp--> Linux-eth0-> windoze home network

[Ron Rademaker]

I've done what you want with a linux box (Slink) and several winthings,
I used ISDN there, but I don't think that makes much different with a
analogue modem. You should use diald to bring up the connection if
needed. You can do IP masquerading with ipchains. 
How does your /etc/init.d/network looks like?
What does ifconfig say?
If you do /etc/init.d/network what does it say?

Ron

On Sun, 19 Mar 2000, esoR ocsirF wrote:

> Hello fellow Dusers,
> I am (and have been) trying to get my home machines running with the
> following configuration. So Far I have had little success.
> 
> I have Debian Box (Potato) configured with ppp (Love it!)
> My wife has a winblows box (Hate it!)
> Both have ethernet cards and are cabled to each other.
> Want to have dynamic ppp go up on Lin box when Win box asks 
> for internet access. I think I also want some sort of IP masq. so that
> Both boxes can use the net at the same time. Also want to print serve
> for the win box (probably with samba) from the Lin box. It would be nice
> to remote mount drive from lin box on win box but not necessary.
> 
> So far I can't even get the win box to ping my linux box. I have read
> HOWTO's for Ethernet, NET-3, Networking, ... Have tried routing and
> ifconfig to no avail.
> 
> Kernel Sees the ethernet card, Winbox sees the ethernet card, so I think
> the hardware part is OK. This seems like a fairly common thing to do but
> I have been getting nowhere. Is there a [mini-|]HOWTO somewhere on this
> that I missed? Any help at all would be greatly appreciated. TIA
> -- 
> Frisco Rose "By any other name, I would smell the same"
> E.O.U. Student  [EMAIL PROTECTED] (541) 962-2987
> 
> Science Journal Ed. [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> 
> 
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Re: Fw: netscape

[Nick Barron]

well it seems that i already have xlib6g installed
with /usr/x11r6/lib/libXt.so.6 & libXt.so.6.0
do i need to move them to a different location?

maybe netscape isn't recognizing it, how can i fix that
or do u think the problem is a bit more complex?


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From: Jonas Steverud <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Sunday, March 19, 2000 12:07 PM
Subject: Re: Fw: netscape


> Beavis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> > > i tried running it frm the command line a got:
> > > can't load library libXt.so.6
>
> You'll need the xlib6g package in the x11 category.
>
> On the ftp-site, try to find Contents-i386.gz, e.g.
>
ftp://ftp.sunet.se/pub/os/Linux/distributions/debian/dists/unstable/Con
tents-i386.gz>
> and then zgrep(1) for the file you are missing, libXt.so.6 in this case.
>
> Change "unstable" in the url to "stable" or whatever you run.
>
> HTH.
>
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Re: Promise Ultra 66

[Brian Lavender]

Once again, how do you specify the CHS specs for cfdisk or fdisk?

brian

On Sun, Mar 19, 2000 at 01:37:17PM -0800, Percival wrote:
> 
> It really sucks, basically.  I found out that I had to track down the 
> manufacturer of my large hard drive, get the specs from them, and then pass 
> them on to cfdisk/fdisk and ignore the warnings that those programs gave me.  
> I also remember that one of them sinply would not work (fdisk, I think), so I 
> had to use cfdisk and specify the CHS specs.  But then it worked great!  I 
> was installing SuSE at the time, which has cfdisk in the install ramdisk.  
> Beware of strangeness - some drives have multiple CHS specs, as they respond 
> to different 'virtual' setting.  
> 
> -Percival
> 
> On Sun, Mar 19, 2000 at 12:51:59PM -0800, Brian Lavender wrote:
> > How do you specify the CHS specs? 
> > 
> > THis has been a big delima. The Large Hard Drive HOW-TO talks about it,
> > and boom, doesn't say anything as far as how-to do it.
> > 
> > brian
> > 
> > On Sun, Mar 19, 2000 at 12:18:15PM -0800, Percival wrote:
> > > 
> > > I have found that with large drives (8G+) you have to manually specify 
> > > the CHS specs to fdisk (or cfdisk) when creating partitions, or you end 
> > > up with non-reliable partitions (I suspect that this might be true with 
> > > fdisk under DOS as well).
> > > 
> > > I didn't think that ATA/66 specs added anything other than more data 
> > > lines for faster data transfer.  Are there new specs for controll as well?
> > > 
> > > -Percival
> > > 
> > > On Sat, Mar 18, 2000 at 09:46:10PM -0800, Brian Lavender wrote:
> > > > On Sat, Mar 18, 2000 at 09:41:43PM -0800, Percival wrote:
> > > > > 
> > > > > Do you have more than one drive in the computer?  
> > > > 
> > > > Yes, in fact I am doing raid1. 
> > > > 
> > > > I built one half of the raid, transferred the files to the raid from 
> > > > regular
> > > > partitions. changed the /etc/fstab to boot using the /dev/mdx devices, 
> > > > rebooted,
> > > > did a hotraidadd on the original devices, and there I was. 
> > > > 
> > > > I have been able to totally boot from a floppy. I have the kernel rdev 
> > > > to 
> > > > /dev/hdc6 which is one half of the raid. 
> > > > 
> > > > Now I have a little more to this story. I booted with a dos disk. I 
> > > > formatted
> > > > the first disk with fat32, and the controller will totally boot to it. 
> > > > Now
> > > > I am trying to go back and reformat that disk, and hotraidadd that half 
> > > > to
> > > > it again. I also have the patched lilo, so it can boot a raid device. 
> > > > My current
> > > > problem is I can't get fmt to recognize the whole disk. When I start 
> > > > format,
> > > > it sees the 20 Gigs, but it says the existing partition is exceeding 
> > > > the 
> > > > physical limits of the disk. In thought maybe I could just start adding 
> > > > partitions, but it seems that once I reach 2 Gigs, that is the limit. 
> > > > So,
> > > > partitioning is first. Then back to making the Ultra 66 boot. 
> > > > 
> > > > Like I believe I said, I could create a dos partition on the disk. That 
> > > > would be a yucky kludge though.
> > > >  
> > > >  brian
> > > > 
> > > > > The reason I ask is that the error you are getting is far before 
> > > > > linux gets involved.  It seems to me that you have two partitions set 
> > > > > active (DOS terms) that is, two partitions set bootable (normal term).
> > > > > 
> > > > > Also, from what I understand, you do not need any special support or 
> > > > > anything to use UDMA/66 drives - they are backward compatible.  You 
> > > > > should be able to boot just fine from stock boot disks.  Get the 
> > > > > system running first, then work on building a special kernel with 
> > > > > full support for UDMA/66 to see the speed benefit.
> > > > > 
> > > > > -Percival
> > > > > 
> > > > > On Sat, Mar 18, 2000 at 09:32:29PM -0800, Brian Lavender wrote:
> > > > > > On Sat, Mar 18, 2000 at 02:34:16PM +0100, J.H.M. Dassen Ray" wrote:
> > > > > > > On Fri, Mar 17, 2000 at 21:32:35 -0800, Brian Lavender wrote:
> > > > > > > > but it just flashes the characters
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > 2FA:
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > That's from the Master Boot Record program. 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > I guess you are correct about this, because I took the drive and 
> > > > > > reformated it with dos, and it was able to boot. Does this mean
> > > > > > I am going to have to create a dos partition on the disk, and put
> > > > > > loadlin in it with the kernel, and have an autoexec which will in
> > > > > > turn boot linux?
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Now, I did find the IDE patches, and I was able to create a boot 
> > > > > > disk
> > > > > > that will boot my system and find the drive on the controller. It 
> > > > > > would
> > > > > > just be nice if that MBR with lilo could start up my disk.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > I will have to take a closer look at the UDMA howto. In the 
> > > > > > meantime,
> > > > > > I am

(not)lame batch job

[Hans]

I've been comparing (not)lame313 and bladeenc today and (not)lame does
sound equally good at 128 compared to bladeenc at 256 bitrate. I use The
Who's 'Won't Get Fooled Again' for comparison, if you wonder.

What I can't get done with (not)lame is batch jobs. Bladeenc simply names
the mp3 after the original file, changing wav to mp3. You can type
$bladeenc *.wav and all the wav files in the directory get encoded. How can
you do this with (not)lame, as it requires both input and output name? --hans

Re: Free Internet... ?

[Chris Gray]

On Sun, Mar 19, 2000 at 01:50:38PM -0800, Percival wrote:
> 
> I apologize, but I remember that several days ago someone was talking about a 
> free web access deal.  Some company who pays for free internet access by 
> putting advertising on their hompage, and requesting users to load it as 
> their start page.  It worked with linux, which was the prime factor.
> 
> I lost those messages, and I need to find this service again (I also lost the 
> bookmark).  Anyway, if anyone's got the info out there, please e-mail me.

The service is at .  It's good, but where I
am they drop packets headed for port 25 on any other machine than
their own.  This makes sending mail kind of a pain in the butt if you
don't have a backup ISP.  Maybe it's different in other places.

HTH,
Chris Gray

> 
> Thanks,
> 
> -Percival
> 
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XF86Config per user?

[Hans Ekbrand]

Hi!

I use a single workstation at home. Recently, other family members have started 
to use my system. The /etc/X11/XF86Config is edited by me for my preferences, 
but is there a way to let users decide e.g. what resolution to start their X 
session with. I like 1600x1200 but they might prefer say 800x600. I have read 
varios man-pages and FAQ:s without success.


TIA,

Hans Ekbrand

Re: Sony vaio

[Shao Zhang]

Try the linux-laptop page:
http://www.cs.utexas.edu/users/kharker/linux-laptop/

Tim Ryder [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Does anyone have any info on getting the sony cd51 pcmcia cd player to work
> with debian
> it installs itself at ide2=0x180,0x386
> I am using the sony vaio n505ve
> 
> tim ryder
> 
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Re: Promise Ultra 66

[Eric G . Miller]

On Sun, Mar 19, 2000 at 02:02:11PM -0800, Brian Lavender wrote:
> Once again, how do you specify the CHS specs for cfdisk or fdisk?

You have to go into "Expert" mode. The command is 'x' with fdisk. I
don't remember for cfdisk. 

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Re: URGENT: libwww-perl: automated form filling

[Shao Zhang]

I have the same problem here. I have posted to perl.misc and libwww
mailinglist without any success. However, the answers are positive, and
lots people mentioned to have a go on the module CGI.pm.

Please have a look at the following form:

https://registry.connect.com.au/cgi-bin/na_create.cgi

It woule be great if I can use perl to automate it.

Shao.

Alberto Maurizi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> 
>   Hi all, Debian people.
> 
>   I'm quite new to perl and, in particular to libwww-perl.
>   I fell on it because I was looking for some API to write
>   www clients to automatically fill forms.
> 
>   The problem I have is that I cannot get the same result from
>   the server as I obtain using a web browser. What happens is
>   that the result is the same document I use as HTTP::Request while,
>   if I use a web browser, clicking the submit button I get 
>   a "second" document.
> 
>   Does anybody know/understand the problem?
>   Where to find source of information/examples?
>   Is there any better solution than libwww-perl?
>   (note that the problem persists using "lynx -post_data")
> 
>   Thanks in advance,
>   Alberto Maurizi
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Re: Promise Ultra 66

[Adam Di Carlo]

[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Karl M. Hegbloom) writes:

>> The bootfloppies for Slink don't handle UDMA66. You need to use
>> bootfloppies with a kernel on them that's patched for UDMA66
>> support (using the IDE patches from
>> ftp.kernel.org:/pub/linux/kernel/people/hedrick/). I'm not sure if
>> potato's bootfloppies (will) support UDMA66.

>  Oh, so _that_ is what the "ide" kernel is for.  I wish the long
>  description in the package would at least describe what it's for...
> 
>  Should we create another flavor "ide"?

Yes -- tausq is working on a no-scsi flavor and the ide flavor.  We
already have the kernel and pcmcia modules in potato for the ide patch
flavor.  Randolph had a good name for it... I think maybe the name was
-idepatch or -udma66.

So hopefully we will have this ready soon.

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Re: one machine, two IP addresses?

[Ross Boylan]

You have understood my question, and thanks to you and Jean for your answers.
The key is the IP address is a property of the connection, not the 
computer.  Because of the way the initial system install works, I had 
thought it was a property of the machine (where it asks for your ethernet 
configuration).


I've taken the liberty of forwarding this useful information to the list.
At 12:02 PM 3/19/00, you wrote:

If I understand your problem (I don't post to the list because I'm not
sure of having understood).

IP addresses are 'linked' to each network device. So, if you have two
network devices (e.g. a modem and an ethernet card) they will have an IP
address each.

In a typical PPP configuration, if you only intend to give internet access
to the machine having the modem (well, maybe not so typical...), the IP
address of the modem is assigned by the ISP dynamically, and will last for
the time the interface (normally ppp0) is UP. As soon as the line is cut,
the interface goes DOWN, and that address is released by the ISP, who will
assign it to any subsequent caller.

For the ethernet card, you do not have to worry, as you will have a fixed
IP address assigned (by you on your machine, and by your network
administrator in the network, meaning that IP addresses should be unique
in your network).

So let's suppose you have:

ISP ---phone_line--- modem YOUR_PC ethernet ---cable--- ethernet OTH_PC
 ^ ^  ^ ^
 1 2  3 4

You'll know of 4 IP addresses, one on each (^).

1 and 2 are ISP assigned, so no worry...
3 and 4 are locally assigned on each PC (or other computer). You have to
choose them and assign one to each ethernet card by configuring your
/etc/init.d/network to include the lines activating your ethernet:

ifconfig eth0 ${IPADDR} netmask ${NETMASK} broadcast ${BROADCAST}

and enabling routing and so on. If you read some howtos you can find the
answer.

Well, that's all, and sorry if you already knew all this, and I have not
understood your question.

Antonio

On Sun, 19 Mar 2000, Ross Boylan wrote:

> I usually dial-up to my ISP and get an assigned IP address for the session.
> I am thinking of connecting my ethernet card to a network, so I might have
> two connections at once.
>
> My understanding is that the IP address comes from the ethernet card
> (hmm... but then it couldn't be assigned in a local network, so probably
> this is wrong..).  At any rate, is there a problem with the machine doing
> both networks at once?
>
> Thanks.
>
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Re: Promise Ultra 66

[Karl M. Hegbloom]

> "Adam" == Adam Di Carlo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

Adam> [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Karl M. Hegbloom) writes:
>>> The bootfloppies for Slink don't handle UDMA66. You need to use
>>> bootfloppies with a kernel on them that's patched for UDMA66
>>> support (using the IDE patches from
>>> ftp.kernel.org:/pub/linux/kernel/people/hedrick/). I'm not sure if
>>> potato's bootfloppies (will) support UDMA66.

>> Oh, so _that_ is what the "ide" kernel is for.  I wish the long
>> description in the package would at least describe what it's for...
>> 
>> Should we create another flavor "ide"?

Adam> Yes -- tausq is working on a no-scsi flavor and the ide flavor.  We
Adam> already have the kernel and pcmcia modules in potato for the ide patch
Adam> flavor.  Randolph had a good name for it... I think maybe the name was
Adam> -idepatch or -udma66.

 I like `-udma66', unless of course the kernel-image*ide gets a decent
 description added to the control file.  I leave this to Tausq.

Adam> So hopefully we will have this ready soon.

 Great news.