Re: killing a process

[Ethan Benson]

I've a little problem: a process (some diff) that just won't die.

I've tried=20
kill -s SIG 
with SIG =3D 2,3,6,9,14 and 15 but it is still there.


is it a zombie process?  (will show up as zombie, Z, or ) 
if so you need to kill its parent so init can inherit and destroy the 
zombie.  zombies are the only ones I have seen that will not die with 
a kill -9.



This process accesses /mnt/md5/ and I cannot remount it ro. (I thought
I should always be allowed to rmount,ro something??)


i think if there is a file open with write access enabled or such you 
cannot remount a filesystem read only, till that file is closed.  at 
least that is what I read on the BSD docs on BSD there is a force 
option that will force write access to be revoked but its not 
recommended, and I am not sure what if any linux counterpart there 
is.




Any ideas how I can get rid of this process?


see above, one way without a reboot (but not by much) is go to single 
user mode and come back, that kills pretty much all processes.




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Re: Coputer upgrade problem - mouse and modem don't work

[John Pearson]

On Thu, Nov 25, 1999 at 06:29:07PM +0200, Micha Feigin wrote
> 
> 
> On Thu, 25 Nov 1999, Micha Feigin wrote:
> 
> > I just upgraded my computer from a 486 to a petiumIII450.
> > I moved the old disk to the new computer in order to move the linux
> > instelation. Linux came up mostly fine exept for two magor problems:
> > The mouse doesn't respond under X. I tried most protocolst that looked
> > remotly apropriate.
> > The mouse is a regular logitec mouse (for the moment).
> > I think that its installed in /dev/ttyS0 (there is a port marked mouse on
> > the back of the coputer, and in proc I got that there are two serial
> > ports, one 16450 (or something like that) which is ttyS0 and 16550A under
> > ttyS1).
> > X comes up fine with no worning about mice trouble but just won't move the
> > cursor. I had gpm installed (workrd fine with the bus mouse on the older
> > computer) but I removed it since it gave trouble last time I moved to a
> > computer with no bus mouse) but it didn't solve anything.
> 
> I just remebered, if it helps then I think that its a ps/2 port that the
> mouse connects to.
> 

That's a good thing to remember.  Your mouse is probably on device
/dev/psaux (small, round mini-DIN-like connector), and should probably 
use the 'mman' protocol under X.  Your kernel needs to have the 'psaux'
driver built-in or loaded as a module; if you have the 'standard' Debian
kernel, try 'modprobe psaux' as root, and if that works then add 'psaux'
to /etc/modules (assuming you don't autoload modules).

> Also, can I make the wheel of a  logitec wheel mouse work under X (if not,
> will it work as a third button?)
> 

Couldn't say for sure, but you may find that the 'imwheeel' package can help
here.

> > 
> > Also, there is a us robotics 56k modem installed, I think that its PnP but
> > I'm not shure, its not supposed to be winmodem, and its an isa modem.
> > pon won't recognise it on any port. (I think its supposed to be com2 under
> > win so I tried ttyS1), kppp tells me when I try to probe modem on ports
> > ttyS1 ttyS2 and ttyS3 that the modem is buisy.
> > Any idea's How I set it up?
> > 

There are two kinds of ISA modems other than WinModems: ones which require 
that you set up the IO port & IRQ with jumpers on the card, amd ones that
are ISAPNP and must be set up by software.  If yours uses jumpers, you
need to find out t\what they mean, and set them to something sensible; if
it doesn't, you probably need to use the 'isapnptools' package to configure
it at boottime (short synopsis: run 'pnpdump > /etc/isapnp.conf'; edit 
/etc/isapnp.conf to choose a configuration; reboot or run 
'isapnp /etc/isapnp.conf' to configure the modem).  If neither of these 
work then your modem is likely a WinModem, broken, or both.

> > Also, there was an HOWTO concerning disk upgrade which Isn't installed on
> > the latest version of the HOWTO's so if anyone can please mail it to me,
> > or tell me how to make a boot floppy (I forgot and the HOWTO talks about
> > making one from dos), and how do I set up lilo, for changing the disks (I
> > remember that it needs to been done through a boot floppy)
> > 

I haven't checked, but I think that the LILO howto covers using floppy
disks...


John P.
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Re: extended ascii symbols

[John Pearson]

On Thu, Nov 25, 1999 at 02:02:47PM -0500, David Blackman wrote
> For some of the wierd symbols, like card suits and lines and shapes, I
> need to print ths to start it: 
> "\033[11m"
> 
> and thsi to stop it (so that keys display properly)
> "\033[10m"
> 
> Is there a better way?
> 

If you use magicfilter, you can alter the line that governs
'raw' printing to add codes sent before and after jobs; 
if you want to turn this on for entire jobs, you can set
up a second printer entry that uses a different magicfilter
file and then pipes the resulting stuff to your original printer;
e.g.,

==/etc/printcap==
lp|epson9|Some Epson Printer:\
:lp=/dev/lp0:sd=/var/spool/lpd/epson9:\
:sf:sh:pw#80:pl#72:px#1440:mx#0:\
:if=/etc/magicfilter/epson9-filter:\
:af=/var/log/lp-acct:lf=/var/log/lp-errs:

fancy|alternatetextset|bogus:\
:lp=|lpr -Plp:sd=/var/spool/lpd/fancy:\
:sf:sh:pw#80:pl#72:px#1440:mx#0:\
:if=/etc/magicfilter/myfilter:\
:af=/var/log/lp-acct:lf=/var/log/lp-errs:

and have the last line of myfilter something like:
default cat \e[11m  \e[10m

You should then be able to print textfiles where you want the
suit symbols, smiley faces, et al. to "fancy" with e.g. lpr -Pfancy

By using a pipe for the device for the fancy printer rather than
the actual device name (which is already associated with another
printcap entry) we get a warm fuzzy feeling that lpd won't try to 
send two jobs to the same device simultaneously.

Disclaimer:  I haven't tried this myself, but it looks about right 
to me :-)


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Re: need help with potato

[Ethan Benson]

On 25/11/99 richard newton wrote:


#! /bin/sh
ifconfig lo 127.0.0.1
route add -net 127.0.0.0
IPADDR=192.168.1.1
NETMASK=255.255.255.0
NETWORK=192.168.1.0
BROADCAST=192.168.1.255
ifconfig eth0 ${IPADDR} netmask ${NETMASK} broadcast ${BROADCAST}
route add -net ${NETWORK}

but I've had to comment out the two "route add -net" lines because they
were giving errors at boot time.
What's changed here. Is that going to be a problem?


apparently kernel 2.2.* does not need the routes defined manually 
anymore.  and if you do define route manually then route has to be 
called with an extra argument i cannot remember at the moment.




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Re: kernel

[Colin Watson]

[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Shaul Karl) wrote:
>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>> > For good clear Debian-specific information, you can read Dale Scheetz'
>> > book `The Debian Linux User's Guide' on-line at
>> > www.linuxpress.com. Around p.170, I think.
>> 
>> Also packaged for Debian:
>> 
>> Slink:   http://www.debian.org/~psg/tdlug_2.0-1_all.deb
>> Potato:  http://www.debian.org/Packages/unstable/doc/tdlug.html
>
>Isn't tdlug too cryptic? Searching dselect select screen when all you
>have is the subject you are interested in is quite difficult as it is,
>so descriptive names are most desired IMHO.

While not disagreeing with you, grep-available is a rather more useful
tool than dselect for finding packages. It's in the grep-dctrl package.

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Re: NIS+ on debian and red-hat

[Luis Gustavo Madrigal Salazar]

I know how to do it with NIS, but I don't want to put my NIS+ servers in
NIS compatibility mode (security reasons). I need NIS+.

On 26 Nov 1999, Brian May wrote:

> > "Luis" == Luis Gustavo Madrigal Salazar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> 
> Luis> Has someone successfully install NYS on debian?? Do you know
> Luis> how to make it on Red-Hat 6.1?? In both cases I can see the
> Luis> NIS+ tables, but I can't perform a login.
> 
> Have you read usr/doc/nis/nis.debian.howto.gz???
> 
> (on Debian of course.)
> 
> In particular, look at step 2, "HOW TO SPECIFY WHAT RESOURCES TO USE
> FOR NIS".
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> 
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winmodem?

[luis]

hello:

i have the following modem:

Arowana Modem 56k Intern PCI Rockwell

and i get the following result with lspci -vv :

---

00:0a.0 Communication controller: Rockwell International: Unknown
device 2114 (rev 01)
Subsystem: CIS Technology Inc: Unknown device 2114
Control: I/O+ Mem+ BusMaster+ SpecCycle- MemWINV- VGASnoop-
ParErr- Stepping- SERR- FastB2B-
Status: Cap+ 66Mhz- UDF- FastB2B+ ParErr- DEVSEL=medium
>TAbort- SERR- 

Re: what happened to netstd?

[Pollywog]

I will have to put fake packages in for most of these and see if that stops
the error messages.  It seems to be working.

--
Andrew

On 25-Nov-1999 George Bonser wrote:
> 
> Tell me about it. I had to go all over the place stamping out things like
> rwhod, rsh-server, rthisd and rthatd.
> 
> That netstd package is a major security problem. I fail to see why it
> installs all that crap on installation OR on removal. I can understand a
> metapackage installing a bunch of things but 1. It should be clearly
> spelled out in the package description what new daemons have been added to
> the meta package and 2. that REMOVING the package will cause a bunch of
> stuff to be installed anyway.
> 
> r services should, in my personal opinion,  never be part of a
> meta-package unless the meta package clearly shows this in its name ...
> something like rservices-std would be acceptable.
> 
> 
> On Thu, 25 Nov 1999, Pollywog wrote:
> 
>> Dselect suggested the netstd package be removed, so I did this and it broke
>> my
>> system by removing diald.  I reinstalled diald and with it came other
>> packages
>> containing "r" services, which I do not want.  One of them, rsh-client, has
>> a
>> dependency problem and cannot be installed.  I don't even want it, but
>> apt-get
>> wants to force it on me anyway.  What is going on here (potato)?
>> 
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> 
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> 
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Re: install-info: failed to lock dir for editing! No such file or directory

[Robert Rati]

I had this problem also, and the solution is pretty simple.  The problem
is that your /usr/info/dir file has gotten corrupted.  Mine got corrupted
because of a crash with my potato system, much like you.  The fix for this
is to find someone else's dir file and replce yours with their's.  If you
look at your /usr/info/dir file, it should be the upper level of info in
straight text.  What it probably is is jibberish, and install-info can't
read it.  My advice once you get this working is to back up your dir file.
I do now!  Good luck.

Rob

On 25 Nov 1999, Christophe Broult wrote:

> 
> Hi all,
> 
> I had a problem with my hard disk and somehow my potato system has
> gotten hosed.  Can someone tell me how to correct the following
> problem?
> 
> chicago:~# dpkg -i /tmp/dpkg_1.4.1.19.deb
> (Reading database ... 65879 files and directories currently
> installed.)
> Preparing to replace dpkg 1.4.1.19 (using /tmp/dpkg_1.4.1.19.deb) ...
> install-info: failed to lock dir for editing! No such file or
> directory
> dpkg: warning - old pre-removal script returned error exit status 2
> dpkg - trying script from the new package instead ...
> dpkg: ... it looks like that went OK.
> Unpacking replacement dpkg ...
> Setting up dpkg (1.4.1.19) ...
> 
> chicago:~# dpkg -i /tmp/info_4.0-1.deb
> (Reading database ... 65879 files and directories currently
> installed.)
> Preparing to replace info 4.0-1 (using /tmp/info_4.0-1.deb) ...
> install-info: failed to lock dir for editing! No such file or
> directory
> dpkg: warning - old pre-removal script returned error exit status 2
> dpkg - trying script from the new package instead ...
> dpkg: ... it looks like that went OK.
> Unpacking replacement info ...
> Setting up info (4.0-1) ...
> install-info: failed to lock dir for editing! No such file or
> directory
> dpkg: error processing info (--install):
>  subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 2
> Errors were encountered while processing:
>  info
> 
> Thank you,
> 
> Chris
> 
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Re: winmodem?

[Robert Rati]

If it's a PCI modem, it's probably a winmodem.  From the looks of things
it's a winmodem.  I'd return it for two reasons.  1) It's junk and not a
real modem. 2) It'll probably never work on Linux (thank god).  I had a
similar problem with a Rockwell modem someone gave me, and it turns out to
be a winmodem.  Goto this site:

http://www.o2.net/~gromitkc/winmodem.html

It has a great listing of modems and whether or not they're winmodems.
Look for yours.

Rob

On Fri, 26 Nov 1999, luis wrote:

> hello:
> 
> i have the following modem:
> 
> Arowana Modem 56k Intern PCI Rockwell
> 
> and i get the following result with lspci -vv :
> 
> ---
> 
> 00:0a.0 Communication controller: Rockwell International: Unknown
> device 2114 (rev 01)
> Subsystem: CIS Technology Inc: Unknown device 2114
> Control: I/O+ Mem+ BusMaster+ SpecCycle- MemWINV- VGASnoop-
> ParErr- Stepping- SERR- FastB2B-
> Status: Cap+ 66Mhz- UDF- FastB2B+ ParErr- DEVSEL=medium
> >TAbort- SERR-  Latency: 32 set
> Interrupt: pin A routed to IRQ 10
> Region 0: Memory at e000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable)
> Region 1: I/O ports at e400
> Capabilities: [40] Power Management version 2
> Flags: PMEClk- AuxPwr+ DSI+ D1- D2- PME+
> Status: D0 PME-Enable+ DSel=0 DScale=0 PME-
> 
> ---
> 
> is this modem a winmodem? how can i know it?
> 
> thanks a lot
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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Re: Bug submission

[Jordi]

On Tue, Nov 23, 1999 at 06:03:20PM +, David Wright wrote:
> > > > Where does "bug" get my email address? (hint, no $EMAIL in profile or
> > > > whatever, at least it's not set atm)
> > > 
> > > Well this message that I'm responding to has a Message-ID:
> > > which reads Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > so I guess you might be posting through that machine.
> > 
> > Hrm... that's true, I hadn't noticed. Worst is that I don't know where this
> > comes from. Sendmail doesn't know anything about softhome (apparently). At
> > least nothing in sendmail.cf, aliases or whatever.
> > 
> > 
> > > (Don't look too closely at my Message-ID; it's presently being
> > > set wrongly!)
> > 
> > Do you know how to actually set it? That'd help me a lot, I guess.
> 
> Well I think I've cracked the problem for myself (but I've not
> corrected it yet as you can see). You might try putting set hostname
> in your .muttrc, but if you look at the mutt manual entry for this
> variable, you'll see that in its absence, mutt gets the domain name
> from /etc/resolv.conf . The relevant line is
> 
> search . open ac uk
> domain open.ac.uk

My /etc/resolv.conf reads:
search uv.es
#nameserver 195.55.163.15   # Fanelli <-- which is Sindominio
nameserver 195.57.204.2 # Tecnobyte <-- which is another ISP
nameserver 147.156.1.1  # Universitat <-- selfexplanatory

So, no softhome there.

Adding hostname to my muttrc solved for mutt. As you might guess, bug is
still using that "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" address. Any more clues? It's tough to
submit bug reports and you cannot recieve info about them.


> oops, and there's my problem. Who wrote that?!
> 
> Anyway, see if you've got  search softhome.net
> in your /etc/resolv.conf and, if that's correct for you,
> add whatever you want in .muttrc .
> 
> But be warned, sindominio.net does not resolve for me (and
> hasn't all day).

Hmm. Should there be an alias for "sindominio.net"? mail.s.d works, as well
as www.s.d, etc. Is this a problem?

> Cheers,

Thank you,

Jordi


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Re: Bug submission

[John Hasler]

Jordi writes:
> As you might guess, bug is still using that "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
> address. Any more clues?

It's reading it from /etc/mailname: vi `which bug` .

If you don't want to change /etc/mailname set the environment variable
EMAIL to what you want 'bug' to use.  man bug .
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Re: kern.log error/hdb: irq timeout

[Kjetil Ødegaard]

* [EMAIL PROTECTED]
|
| I'm getting these errors listed below.  When these errors show up on my
| xconsole my screen is frozen for some time and then recovers.  My X
| environment is acting like Windows does sometimes:(  I hate this. 
| Anyway I was wondering if anyone knew what is going on here and how I
| can fix this?  I just installed a new HD and reinstalled Slink.
|   
| Nov 23 23:08:19 xyf kernel: hdb: irq timeout: status=0xd0 { Busy } 

I'd check in your computer's BIOS if your hard disks are set to power
down after a certain period of time.  I was experimenting with this,
and would got the error message above sometimes.

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xxx.tar.gz on Windows.

[Jens K. Olsen]

I know this is a little off subject, but I think it's a problem may
people are running into.

I have a ftp server with lot's of files on it. I usually use .tar.gz for
large archives rather than .zip because not all my UNIX users has unzip
installed. Winzip supposedly supports tar and gz also.

I recently found that when my Windows users download the .tar.gz
archives using Netscape and try to unzip them using Winzip, they get an
error message and they don't get anywhere.

I would like to understand what is going on, and how I can fix the
problem. If anyone had the same problem and found a good solution
(meaning NOT having to use .zip rather than .tar.gz, and NOT having to
use that terrible "OS" called Windows), please let me know.

Thanks

Re: xxx.tar.gz on Windows.

[Darxus]

On Fri, 26 Nov 1999, Jens K. Olsen wrote:

> I know this is a little off subject, but I think it's a problem may
> people are running into.
> 
> I have a ftp server with lot's of files on it. I usually use .tar.gz for
> large archives rather than .zip because not all my UNIX users has unzip
> installed. Winzip supposedly supports tar and gz also.
> 
> I recently found that when my Windows users download the .tar.gz
> archives using Netscape and try to unzip them using Winzip, they get an
> error message and they don't get anywhere.
> 
> I would like to understand what is going on, and how I can fix the
> problem. If anyone had the same problem and found a good solution
> (meaning NOT having to use .zip rather than .tar.gz, and NOT having to
> use that terrible "OS" called Windows), please let me know.

I've extracted *many* .tar.gz files with winzip.  Are they using a current
version ?  What's the error ?
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Re: NIS+ on debian and red-hat

[Marcin Kurc]

I don't think that linux supports NIS+ yet.
I know that you can run linux box as NIS+ client, but I've never heard about 
setting up linux as a NIS+ server.
I run NIS+ on Solaris.


On Thu, Nov 25, 1999 at 06:19:54PM -0600, Luis Gustavo Madrigal Salazar wrote: 
> I know how to do it with NIS, but I don't want to put my NIS+ servers in
> NIS compatibility mode (security reasons). I need NIS+.
> 
> On 26 Nov 1999, Brian May wrote:
> 
> > > "Luis" == Luis Gustavo Madrigal Salazar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > 
> > Luis> Has someone successfully install NYS on debian?? Do you know
> > Luis> how to make it on Red-Hat 6.1?? In both cases I can see the
> > Luis> NIS+ tables, but I can't perform a login.
> > 
> > Have you read usr/doc/nis/nis.debian.howto.gz???
> > 
> > (on Debian of course.)
> > 
> > In particular, look at step 2, "HOW TO SPECIFY WHAT RESOURCES TO USE
> > FOR NIS".
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> > 
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Re: xxx.tar.gz on Windows.

[Eric G . Miller]

1) tell your user's to Shift-Click the links to download, and/or make
sure Netscape isn't decompressing the files when it downloads them
(probable cause).

2) check that the files aren't being renamed to xxx_tar.gz . For some
reason this happens on some windows boxen. They have to be renamed to
xxx.tar.gz to be useable.

3) possibly give your files the *.tgz extension. It should be recognized
as a compressed tar archive by Winzip (tar czf xxx.tgz mydir).
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Re: kernel

[Peter S Galbraith]

I used the package name the upstream author (who is also a Debian
developer) wanted.  At least the one-liner is okay! :-)

Peter

Shaul Karl wrote:

> Isn't tdlug too cryptic? Searching dselect select screen when all you have is
>  
> the subject you are interested in is quite difficult as it is, so descriptive
>  
> names are most desired IMHO.

Re: xxx.tar.gz on Windows.

[Jens K. Olsen]

Darxus wrote:
> 
> I've extracted *many* .tar.gz files with winzip.  Are they using a current
> version ?  What's the error ?
>

Actually I may have been a little too fast there.

I just tried on my own machine, where I still have some Windows left. I
am using japanese Windows98 and Winzip 6.3. It worked fine. However. My
colleagues are using japanese WindowsNT and Winzip 7.0, and they get the
following error message:

Error reading header after processing 0 entries.

BTW. Thanks for your help.

Re: xxx.tar.gz on Windows.

[Matthew Dalton]

Darxus wrote:
> 
> On Fri, 26 Nov 1999, Jens K. Olsen wrote:
> 
> > I know this is a little off subject, but I think it's a problem may
> > people are running into.
> >
> > I have a ftp server with lot's of files on it. I usually use .tar.gz for
> > large archives rather than .zip because not all my UNIX users has unzip
> > installed. Winzip supposedly supports tar and gz also.

It does.

> > I recently found that when my Windows users download the .tar.gz
> > archives using Netscape and try to unzip them using Winzip, they get an
> > error message and they don't get anywhere.

What error message? Invalid file? Does it try to create a new file with
the .tar.gz file as the contents?

> > I would like to understand what is going on, and how I can fix the
> > problem. If anyone had the same problem and found a good solution
> > (meaning NOT having to use .zip rather than .tar.gz, and NOT having to
> > use that terrible "OS" called Windows), please let me know.

Netscape tries to be 'too smart' with tar.gz files. It un-gzips them for
you as it downloads, which basically corrupts anything that isnt text
(but the un-gziped file still has the .gz extension). The result is that
Winzip doesn't recognise it, neither would gzip, although you might be
able to un-tar it if you're lucky.

The usual solution (that I've seen posted many times on various linux
lists) is to hold down shift when clicking to force Netscape to download
it. Trouble is, I *do* do this, yet still manage to end up with a
corrupted file (although I admit that occasionally it does work - maybe
it has something to do with the server?). As an example, yesterday I
tried to download the source to glibc2.1.2 from ftp.gnu.org. I
shift-left-clicked as usual. The save dialog box said it was receiving
an (approx) 8Mb file. However, explorer shows the size as 43Mb, and
Winzip refuses to open it. When this happens, I usually turn to either
ncftp, if the file is on an ftp site, or Lynx. If I'm on a windows box,
I'll even load up IE to get the file (because IE does the right thing
with it - I hate it when that happens...).

(I've just received Eric Miller's reply, so I'll make some comments on
that as well)

Eric says:
> 1) tell your user's to Shift-Click the links to download, and/or make
> sure Netscape isn't decompressing the files when it downloads them
> (probable cause).

I do shift-click, but it doesn't always work.

I have tried to tell netscape to 'save to disk' with the following:
Compressed Data, Unix Tape Archive, Winzip File (TGZ)
... even added my own *.gz type with 'save to disk' as the action. It
*still* doesn't work.

Mozilla M11 (Win32) doesn't seem to do anything useful (just sits there
and does nothing).

> 2) check that the files aren't being renamed to xxx_tar.gz . For some
> reason this happens on some windows boxen. They have to be renamed to
> xxx.tar.gz to be useable.

Tried renaming the file before saving. The file name is correct, but it
is still corrupt.

> 3) possibly give your files the *.tgz extension. It should be recognized
> as a compressed tar archive by Winzip (tar czf xxx.tgz mydir).

Nope, still doesn't work.

Matthew

How to determine what "apt-get" can install?

[John Miskinis]

Hello,

  Pardon my ignorance.  Up until now, I have used a command such
as "dpkg -l "*"|grep -i WHATEVER" when I am trying to find out the
package name(s) of things relating to WHATEVER.  At the moment, I
am trying to find out what pieces of "imlib" stuff I might be
missing, as I can't compile wmakerconf.  So I execute:

 dpkg -l "*" | grep -i imlib

I get a list of a few packages, several names are truncated, and
most have "no description available".  Is there a better way to
find out what is actually available based on my sources.list file?

John


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Re: xxx.tar.gz on Windows.

[Jens K. Olsen]

Matthew Dalton wrote:
> 
> (I've just received Eric Miller's reply, so I'll make some comments on
> that as well)
> 
> Eric says:
> > 1) tell your user's to Shift-Click the links to download, and/or make
> > sure Netscape isn't decompressing the files when it downloads them
> > (probable cause).
> 
> I do shift-click, but it doesn't always work.
> 

I just tried the shift-click, and that made unzip work on my machine.
I didn't think this would be necessary on Windows since it comes back
and asks whether you want to save or open. Just another proof that
Windows is NOT easy to use.

> 
> > 2) check that the files aren't being renamed to xxx_tar.gz . For some
> > reason this happens on some windows boxes. They have to be renamed to
> > xxx.tar.gz to be useable.
> 
> Tried renaming the file before saving. The file name is correct, but it
> is still corrupt.
> 

On my machine I let Windows rename the file to xxx_tar.gz. When I unzip
it, it creates another archive and unzips that archive. In the end I end
up with two archives and the unzipped directory. Not perfect, but at
least my users will be able to get the files. I guess that's what can be
expected by an OS like that.

> > 3) possibly give your files the *.tgz extension. It should be recognized
> > as a compressed tar archive by Winzip (tar czf xxx.tgz mydir).
> 
> Nope, still doesn't work.
> 

Didn't even try that since I was able to finally get the files with the
method described above. BTW. How do I create the .tgz rather than the
.tar.gz? Do I rename it after creating the archive? Can I do it in "one
shot"? It seems there is some script in the Debian distribution, but it
doesn't seem to work.

Thanks for everyone's help!

Re: Java broken with latest updates...

[Roddy]

Today it's working, my update+upgrade got me 6 updated packages and the
problem seems to have been fixed.. debconf, modutils and shellutils seem
to be the only packages of any importance with this lot (sorry, don't
remember what the other 3 were).
 -- Roddy

On Tue, 23 Nov 1999, Roddy wrote:

=> 
=> I'm not on this list so I would appreciate a CC at least.
=> 
=> I did an apt-get update;apt-get upgrade today and now my JDK won't work.
=> It seems that neither the blackdown.org JDK1.2 port nor the IBM JDK1.1.8
=> port will work.
=> The blackdown compiler gives me:
=>  Error: can't find libjava.so
=> While the IBM compiler gives me the usage of the compiler no matter what
=> I do.
=> The blackdown VM gives the same error as the compiler bu the IBM VM seems
=> to work..
=> 
=> Anyone got any ideas? Maybe a library update thats broken something?
=> Thanks for your help,
=>  -- Roddy
=> 
=> (I'm using potato btw and I use a local mirror but have tried the latest
=> updates on ftp.debian.org as well and it's still broken)
=> 
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Re: How to determine what "apt-get" can install?

[Dan Brosemer]

On Thu, Nov 25, 1999 at 08:42:07PM -0800, John Miskinis wrote:
> I get a list of a few packages, several names are truncated, and
> most have "no description available".  Is there a better way to
> find out what is actually available based on my sources.list file?

Try 'apt-cache search imlib'.

HTH
-Dan

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himself your master."


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Native thread of jdk1.1.7

[minxu]

Hi, 

Recently, I have a trouble of jdk1.1.7:

[EMAIL PROTECTED] java]$ java echo
Cannot open /proc/05406 for GC

I have to use -green to make it work, although I think it used to be OK with 
native-thread.

Do anyone know what is the problem? Can it be related to jserv? 

Thanks. 


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Re: xxx.tar.gz on Windows.

[Eric G . Miller]

On Fri, Nov 26, 1999 at 04:02:27AM +, Jens K. Olsen wrote:
> Didn't even try that since I was able to finally get the files with the
> method described above. BTW. How do I create the .tgz rather than the
> .tar.gz? Do I rename it after creating the archive? Can I do it in "one
> shot"? It seems there is some script in the Debian distribution, but it
> doesn't seem to work.
> 
 Glad it's working for ya. Yes, tar can create *.tgz files in one fell
 swoop. I indicated how parenthetically,
 $ tar czf mydir.tgz mydir
 where mydir is some directory of files. The 'z' flag tells it to
 gzip/gunzip the file depending on context {c|t|x}.
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installation program can't find a hard drive

[Jon Scott]

I'm doing my first Debian 2.1 install on a machine that successfully ran
RH6.0.  The machine has two hard drives which the bootup from the rescue
floppy correctly identifies as /dev/hda and /dev/hde.  However, the
installation program only presents /dev/hda for partitioning in its
menu.  Opening a console with ALT-F2 and invoking cfdisk manually also
finds only /dev/hda.  This is a problem (obviously) because I wanted to
put / on /dev/hde.  Since the installation program wants to do a swap
partition and / before going further, I'm stuck.

/dev/hda is on the motherboard's IDE controller.
/dev/hde is on a Promise Ultra DMA controller.

Any ideas?

Thanks,

Jon Scott

Re: Problems mounting CD-ROM

[Shaul Karl]

The CD-ROM HOWTO has a troubleshooting section which might be helpful.

> I am trying to mount my internal CD-ROM.
> 
> When I use dmesg I get the following:
> 
> hdc: TOSHIBA CD-ROM XM-5702B, ATAPI CDROM drive
> 
> when I do a mount -t iso9660 -r /dev/cdrom /cdrom where /dev/cdrom is a
> symbolic link to /dev/hdc, and /cdrom is an empty directory, I get the
> following:
> 
> mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/cdrom,
>or too many mounted file systems
> 
> I am using the default Debian kernel (2.0.36) with iso9660 support. I
> checked with cat /proc/filesystems
> 
> Any idea what can be wrong?
> 
> Thanks
> 
> 
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Re: Is sendmail open to relay?

[Robert Waldner]

On Thu, 25 Nov 1999 12:39:24 EST, Peter S Galbraith writes:
>You can use a mail client on another machine (e.g. pine), set the
>smarthost and try it.  There used to be a web site that could do a test
>for you: http://maps.vix.com/tsi/ar-test.html  They don't do the
>test anymore but have info.

A working online-tester can be found at http://www.abuse.net/relay.html>.

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GO!Zilla for Linux

[Robert J. Alexander]

Is there something like Go!zilla for a Debian Linux system ?
I mean some browser plug/in or similar to take charge of FTP clicks 

Thank you. Bob Alexander

Re: Problems with libapache-mod-python in slink

[Wojciech Zabolotny]

On Thu, Nov 25, 1999 at 01:09:22PM -0800, Eric G . Miller wrote:
> On Thu, Nov 25, 1999 at 09:33:46PM +0100, Wojciech Zabolotny wrote:
> > Hi all,
> > 
> > I have problems with libapache-mod-python in Slink.
> > I need to use the apache-ssl, but libapache-mod-python depends on apache,
> > so I needed to install the standard apache as well (so I changed
> > the non-ssl port for apache-ssl to 8080).
> > However when I installed the apache, my apache-ssl didn't start any more...
> > Where is the problem?
> > Shouldn't the libapache-mod-python depend on apache-common instead of 
> > apache?
> > -- 
> 
> I think the dependency should be, apache-ssl provides apache, this
> problems exists in potato as well.
AFAIK, apache-ssl does not provide apache. Quoting from /var/libdpkg/status:

Package: apache-ssl
Status: install ok installed
Priority: optional
Section: non-us
Installed-Size: 482
Maintainer: Christoph Martin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Version: 1.3.3+1.29-2
Replaces: apache-modules
Provides: httpd
Depends: libc6 (>= 2.0.7u-6), libssl09, mime-support, perl, apache-common (>= 1.
Suggests: apache-doc, lynx
Conflicts: apache-modules, php3 (<= 3.0.3-1), libapache-mod-perl (<= 1.15-2.1

> 
> I got apache-ssl to run. Don't run the regular apache (update-rc.d -f
> apache remove). Then set-up apache-ssl to listen on both ports 80 and
> 443.  Use .htaccess files to force https where it is required.
> 
> However, when all is said and done, I haven't been able to get the
> python module to work. For some reason it always kills apache (either
> version) when I configure it to be loaded. The only suggestion I got was
> to recompile apache from source -- apparently a problem with the
> configuration of the binary versions. I haven't gotten around to doing
> this, so...
> -- 

I've got apache-ssl to run just by installing the apache-common and apache-ssl.
It runs then "out of box" without any customization, but libapache-mod-python
can not be installed :-(.

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Strange xterm behaviour

[XRDLAB]

Hi,

I am facing some problems with xterm (3.3.3) on my slink machine. I
run icewm as my window manager. When I invoke xterm from the menu, and
run mc, I do not see the standard blue color. If I invoke xterm from
an rxvt and then run mc, I get to see the colours. The colours are
also missing when I run mc from the menu (by xterm -e mc). Another
thing I noticed is that the mouse clicks are disabled when I run mc in
an rxvt. 

How can I get the colours for mc in the xterm when I invoke it from
the menu?


Thanks,

sridhar



Sridhar M. A.
Department of Physics
University of Mysore, Manasagangotri
Mysore 570 006, INDIA
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Re: frontpage extensions for apache

[Ookhoi]

Hi Gareth,

> > > Has anyone succesfuly install the extensions on a debian box befoe?
> > > If someone has I would appreciate any help and or advice on the subject.
> > I installed it on Solaris. Can you post your error messages and
> > versions?
> 
> Its frontpage 98 server extensions version3.0
 
I installed fp 2000 (that's version 4 I believe). 

> I checked the config file exists I even added the Port and 
> ServerRoot directive
> (although I am not sure on the values) to the default config file when it 
> didn't work.
> ok this is the error message I get from the script
> 
> Installing root web into port ...
> installing server / on port 
> Will chown web to root as part of install.
> Will chgrp web to daemon as part of install.
> Server config file "/usr/local/frontpage/version3.0/we.cnf" has no Port 
> or ServerRoot directive.  Please check that you have the correct config file 
> for your server type.
> ERROR:  / installation failed.

Ah, so you want to install a _web_. I thought you wanted to install the
module in the webserver. Ehm, I don't know what is wrong then.. :-(
Sorry. (on Solaris it is a binary btw, not a script).

Ookhoi

Re: databases, which one? (THANKS)

[Jean-Yves BARBIER]

Thanxs to all of you,

I think I'm gonna try MySQL + Perl

JY
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his head knocked off.
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Re: GUI toolkit for a beginner?

[Martin Waller]

Suppose I must use C++, will it work with lesstiff? How difficult would it 
be

comparing to using lesstiff from a C prog?


Try V (http://objectcentral.com/).  Works with lesstfif if you want (but 
hides details...).  Added advantage that it's portable.  I thoroughly 
recommend this, especially for beginners.



BTW: Isn't lesstiff written in C++?



No.


Martin

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Re: GO!Zilla for Linux

[John Leget]

Try this one works great for me drag and drop the urls

http://www.krasu.ru/soft/chuchelo/

cheers

"Robert J. Alexander" wrote:

> Is there something like Go!zilla for a Debian Linux system ?
> I mean some browser plug/in or similar to take charge of FTP clicks 
>
> Thank you. Bob Alexander
>
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something misconfigured in smail?

[Anthony Campbell]

I seem to be misunderstanding something about configuring smail.

My email address is [EMAIL PROTECTED]

If I try to send mail to anyone else at doctors.org.uk the mail is
always bounced by my system with the message:

"no valid recipients found"

I think this is saying that it is looking for an alias in my setup
corresponding to the name of the person I am trying to send to.
How can I tell it that this isn't what is wanted?

Anthony

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Re: Forcing Netscape to use MTA

[Matthew W. Roberts]

On Nov 21, 1999 at 10:55:35AM, Brian May wrote:
> > "Matthew" == Matthew W Roberts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> 
> Matthew> This has to be a Netscape thing, though, because Mutt
> Matthew> works just fine.  I have also set the exim configuration
> Matthew> file to accept localhost. 
> 
> I will assume you mean here that you have configured exim to relay
> mail coming from "localhost". Otherwise, please do so...

I did.  Had to do that to get fetchmail to work...

> Sorry, I missed the start of this thread, so I might have missed
> something.
> 
> What hostname do you have netscape try to connect to?
> 
> If you use "localhost" port "25", then I agree, you do have a Netscape
> problem.

Under preferences, mail servers, outgoing mail server I have entered
`localhost'.

After considerable fiddling with exim.conf, I was able to get Netscape 
to work by doing one of the following:

1)  relay_domains = *

or

2)  commenting out the line: `sender_host_reject_relay = *' 

I don't think either solution is very desirable, but since I'm on a dial-up
box with dynamic IP connections I won't sweat it too much.

> I think non-broken programs should send mail via /usr/sbin/sendmail,
> in which case, mail relaying isn't required. Obviously, Netscape
> doesn't fit this category ;-).

I would tend to agree.  Hopefully Mozilla will be non-broken...



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LILO boot partition question. Thank you

[Robert J. Alexander]

I have a / partition on /dev/sda1 and have also defined a /dev/sda2
partition in the first /dev/sda cylinders to ensure my kernels are
always below the 1024cyl limit.

The /etc/lilo.conf I have working says:

boot=/dev/sda1
root=/dev/sda1

if I try installing a lilo.conf with boot=/dev/sda2 as I would like the
LILO process aborts after writing 

LIL- 

as the prompt.

I guess I am missing the second stage LILO loader routine in this case.

This is a Debian only box (as all should be ;->) and I would like to
have the LILO loader on the HD boot record 

what should I try 

Thank you. Bob Alexander

IP accounting .... (ipac) cannot find kernel option

[Robert J. Alexander]

I would have liked to get IP accounting informations ... reading the
docs it says "... compile the kernel with IP accounting on ...".

I have a slink dist with a 2.2.13 kernel and could NOT find the place in
make xconfig to tell that I need IP accounting (searched mostly under
Networking Options) .

Duh 

Thank you. Bob

Re: LILO boot partition question. Thank you

[peter karlsson]

Robert J. Alexander:

> if I try installing a lilo.conf with boot=/dev/sda2 as I would like the
> LILO process aborts after writing 
> 
> LIL- 
> 
> as the prompt.

According to the documentation:

   LIL-   The descriptor table is corrupt. This can either be caused by a 
geometry mismatch or by moving /boot/map without running the map 
installer.

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Re: 2 computers away 1 Km and one PL

[Shaul Karl]

> On Thu, 25 Nov 1999, Andrei D. Caraman wrote:
> >>I have 2 computers away 1 Km from each other and one PL (dedicated
> >> telephony line between them) that I can use. What software and hardware I 
> >> need
> >> to connect the 2 computers using the PL?
> >
> >Well, what bandwidth would you need on that line?
> >
> >You could use one of the following
> >
> > - USR/3COM Courier modems for 33.6 kbps
> > - RAD SRM-31A for 128 kbps
> > - RAD ASM-31  for 256 kbps
> >
> >Note that the first two use standard V24 interfaces.  ASM-31 has an optional
> >ethernet bridge interface, which I would recommend if you're planning to use
> >it on a Linux box.
> >
> >I have seen these work.  There are many more options for the hardware.
> 
> WaveLAN (radio Ethernet over unrestricted frequencies) can apparently get
> 1Mb/s over distances greater than 1Km.  No need to pay the telco either...
> 

What is radio Ethernet over unrestricted frequencies? Can you give a URLs for 
more info? Who manufacture this kind of radio equipment?
Isn't any kind of radio equipment over distances longer then 1-2 meters 
requires a license?

Thank you.

Re: LILO boot partition question. Thank you

[peter karlsson]

> But isn't the map installer run when I run the lilo command after
> editing my lilo file ???

It should be.

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Why did 'man dpkg' quit working on me?

[Jor-el]

Hi,

I am working on a box which has a standard Slink install. I used
to be able to pull up the man page of dpkg by doing 'man dpkg'. Yesterday,
all of a sudden, this command quit working on me, and I cant figure out
why. The man page was still around - located in /usr/share/man/man8, but
man wasnt picking it up unless I used the '-M' flag to tell it where it
was.

I tried rebuilding the man database by doing a 'mandb -c', but
this didnt solve it either. In the end, I had to end up editing
/etc/manpath.config and added /usr/share/man to the MANDATORY_MANPATH and
then rebuilding mandb, before my problem could get solved.

I have two questions : (1) did I solve this the right way? and (2)
Why did this fail in the first place? Any ideas?

Regards,
Jor-el

I drink to make other people interesting.
-- George Jean Nathan

Re: 2 computers away 1 Km and one PL

[Russell Coker]

On Fri, 26 Nov 1999, Shaul Karl wrote:
>> WaveLAN (radio Ethernet over unrestricted frequencies) can apparently get
>> 1Mb/s over distances greater than 1Km.  No need to pay the telco either...
>> 
>
>What is radio Ethernet over unrestricted frequencies? Can you give a URLs for 
>more info? Who manufacture this kind of radio equipment?
>Isn't any kind of radio equipment over distances longer then 1-2 meters 
>requires a license?

It really depends on the country you are in as someone has already mentioned.
The URL below is for one of my clients.  They are based in Australia and know
the Australian regulations very well.  They do not claim to be experts on
radio regulations for other countries, but I am sure that they will be happy
to sell the equipment by mail order to any country on the understanding that
the purchaser will ensure that it is used in a legal fashion.
Dycom is a client of mine, but they didn't ask me to write this.  ;)
http://www.dycom.com.au/

I've used WaveLAN in Linux machines.  The ISA cards worked perfectly, the
PCMCIA cards only worked for receive not transmit.  However it's been a while
since I played with them and the bugs have probably been fixed (the PCMCIA
card that didn't work under Linux worked under Windows).

-- 
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Re: 2 computers away 1 Km and one PL

[Paulo Henrique Baptista de Oliveira]

Hi,
Quoting Chris Wagner ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
> At 05:32 PM 11/25/99 +0100, Stephane Bortzmeyer wrote:
> >If this is a leased line, they don't have to dial.
> 
> As soon as either side goes "off hook" it automatically "rings" to the other
> side.  Imagine a big pipe that runs directly from you to them.  You don't
> have to "tell" the other end of the pipe where to go, its already there.
> You just take the cap off one end, yell down the pipe, and the other side
> hears you and takes its cap off and you can then look at each other and talk
> to each other through this pipe.  You're "connected".
> 
Yes. No software extra needed? PPP? just as simple as ethernet.
> >If it's ISDN, no, you don't need a modem since the D in ISDN means digital.
> 
> True but its convenient to think of it as a "modem".
> 
> >>computer1 <-> modem <-> phone line <-> modem <-> computer2
> 
> Yes but the "modem" in this case is a terminal adapter.
> 
> If you get Courier I-Modems you can put them in Leased Line Mode.  From the
> computer's point of view the Courier is just another modem and you have a
> perfectly ordinary serial port that you can write and read data from.  Just
> like any other modem or serial device.
> 
> 
> 
> 
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Upgrade to Perl 5.005 for slink. HOWTO ???

[Robert J. Alexander]

Is there a place with hints on the right packages to upgrade to install
perl 5.005 on a slink platform ??

Thank you. Bob Alexander

Re: 2 computers away 1 Km and one PL

[Peter S Galbraith]

We're using wireless modems (115kbs and 20 mile range) from
http://www.freewave.com/ (Model DGR-115), but I haven't tried
with Linux yet.  Our technicians tell me they simply plug into
the serial port so I don't see why they wouldn't work.

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ALSA problems

[wb4mle]

Trying the current ALSA packages in Potato with kernel 2.2.13 and a
Trident/Jaton 4DWAVE card. Compile seemed to go ok once I symlinked
the usr/local/src with the kernel files to the usr/src directory that
ALSA package seems to expect.
Compile and dpkg install seems fine but "insmod snd-trident" gives a
long string of "unresolved symbols" beginning with "snd". 
Help appreciated!!
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Re: SQL database editor?

[Francois Deppierraz]

Alexander Kushnirenko <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I have MySQL database and sometimes need to modify few entries there.  So far 
> I was doing it using SQL language, which is not very convenient in this 
> situation.  Is there simple SQL database editor to do that?

With a Postgresql database, pgaccess (in potato) is very nice. You can
also use postgresadmin or phpmyadmin made with php3 (search
www.linuxapps.com).

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Re: Offtopic: napster & mp3

[Francois Deppierraz]

Onno <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> My question: Is there a napster compatible
> program under Linux?

Yeah, have a look at old news on slashdot.org

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Re: ALSA problems

[Rolf Schillinger]

On Fri, 26 Nov 1999 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> Trying the current ALSA packages in Potato with kernel 2.2.13 and a
> Trident/Jaton 4DWAVE card. Compile seemed to go ok once I symlinked
> the usr/local/src with the kernel files to the usr/src directory that
> ALSA package seems to expect.
> Compile and dpkg install seems fine but "insmod snd-trident" gives a
> long string of "unresolved symbols" beginning with "snd". 
> Help appreciated!!
Why are you using insmod. Try a depmod -a to recalculate the module 
dependencies and then a modprobe snd-trident.
Then you can be sure that all modules you need will be loaded.
regard, Rolf

How to reset dselect to zero selections

[Egbert Bouwman]

I made a mesh of dselect -> apt-get -> dpkg:
   i use slink with dselect access-method apt, 
   in sources.list an ftp-source for unstable (potato) packages.
The new enlightenment needed a new libc6, and the new libc6
causes the renewal of practically half my distribution,
which i don't like to do over a telephone-line.
So i decided not to download. But now i can't get back a clean
dselect selection list: even if i think i have set everything on
hold (=), there are packages back on select (*). It seems i have
pushed on Enter at least once to often.

Also i have tried a --get-selections / --set-selections cycle,
changing the 'install' to 'hold' in between.

My two questions are:
- how do i bring back dselect to a healthy state
- where can i find a clear, not cryptic, discussion of 
  dselect, especially the interaction of the + - = keys,
  and the X Q D R and U keys (and the role of the Old Mark).
egbert   
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Re: NIS+ on debian and red-hat

[Luis Gustavo Madrigal Salazar]

Have you set up a linux box as NIS+ client? (on debian, red-hat or suse)
from linux I can see NIS+ tables with niscat, but my problem is that I
can't login on the linux client.=(

On Thu, 25 Nov 1999, Marcin Kurc wrote:

> 
> I don't think that linux supports NIS+ yet.
> I know that you can run linux box as NIS+ client, but I've never heard about 
> setting up linux as a NIS+ server.
> I run NIS+ on Solaris.
> 
> 
> On Thu, Nov 25, 1999 at 06:19:54PM -0600, Luis Gustavo Madrigal Salazar 
> wrote: 
> > I know how to do it with NIS, but I don't want to put my NIS+ servers in
> > NIS compatibility mode (security reasons). I need NIS+.
> > 
> > On 26 Nov 1999, Brian May wrote:
> > 
> > > > "Luis" == Luis Gustavo Madrigal Salazar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > > 
> > > Luis> Has someone successfully install NYS on debian?? Do you know
> > > Luis> how to make it on Red-Hat 6.1?? In both cases I can see the
> > > Luis> NIS+ tables, but I can't perform a login.
> > > 
> > > Have you read usr/doc/nis/nis.debian.howto.gz???
> > > 
> > > (on Debian of course.)
> > > 
> > > In particular, look at step 2, "HOW TO SPECIFY WHAT RESOURCES TO USE
> > > FOR NIS".
> > > -- 
> > > Brian May <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > 
> > > 
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FW: Help with a Dell Latitude CPia

[Chris Larson]

Sent: Wednesday, November 24, 1999 12:04 AM
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Help with a Dell Latitude CPia


I have installed corel linux onto my laptop. Everything looks great and runs
fine except for three things.

1. My ethernet card is not working. I can ping myself but I cannont ping
anything else.

I am still not able to get this to work, even with everyone's advice. I will
try the PCMCIA package 3.1.3 that was suggested.

2. I have no sound. sndconfig cannot detect a sound card. I think these
laptops use some Neomagic sound chip.

It was suggested to upgrade to the newest kernel 2.2.13? Corel's 1.0 kernel
is the 2.2.12. If I use the regular debian kernel is there any chance that
this will interfere with the corel setup?

3. My Gold card 56K modem will dial out but will not connect to my ISP. I
get the error that the pppd died unexpectedly.

I cleared out the /etc/ppp/config file and that solved the problem. Thanks!!

Any help would be appreciated]



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Do I need a news server?

[Mark Wagnon]

Hi all,

I'm learning to use slrn to read newsgroups, but everytime I start
it, I have to download all the message headers/bodies again. I'm not
looking to become a news server for other sites, I just want my local
users (basically just me) to be able to read a few selected NGs.

I want to be able to configure the server/whatever to pull new
articles down every couple hours (or more frequently) and keep them
locally for awhile. 

I was looking at leafnode. Will this do what I want, or is there a
better choice?

Thanks

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Re: ALSA problems

[wb4mle]

On Fri, 26 Nov 1999 17:18:48 +0100 (MET), you wrote:


>Why are you using insmod. Try a depmod -a to recalculate the module 
>dependencies and then a modprobe snd-trident.
>Then you can be sure that all modules you need will be loaded.
Thanks- this stopped the unresolved symbols. Not sure why reboot and
update-modules didn't fix this before. Sound still is not working as
the "amixer" utility says alsa driver not on system and the
"alsamixer" utility responds with "TODO". Have RTFM till BITF(Blue in
the Face)!

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latest gimp debs?

[T.V.Gnanasekaran]

where can i get latest gimp debs?
-gnana

Re: Offtopic: napster & mp3

[T.V.Gnanasekaran]

> Yeah, have a look at old news on slashdot.org
http://www.freshmeat.net/search?query=napster

-gnana

Re: Strange xterm behaviour

[Eric G . Miller]

On Fri, Nov 26, 1999 at 03:17:35PM +0530, XRDLAB wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> I am facing some problems with xterm (3.3.3) on my slink machine. I
> run icewm as my window manager. When I invoke xterm from the menu, and
> run mc, I do not see the standard blue color. If I invoke xterm from
> an rxvt and then run mc, I get to see the colours. The colours are
> also missing when I run mc from the menu (by xterm -e mc). Another
> thing I noticed is that the mouse clicks are disabled when I run mc in
> an rxvt. 
> 
> How can I get the colours for mc in the xterm when I invoke it from
> the menu?

Perhaps there's a discrepency between /etc/X11/Xresources/xterm and your
~.Xresources? I vaguely recall having a similar problem a while back. I
did two things. I edited /etc/X11/Xresources/xterm so it'd be grey90 on
black, and sourced my .bashrc in .xsession to get DIRCOLORS. As far as
the mouse clicks in rxvt, I never got it to work. I think maybe it
doesn't take them??? I just use xterm anymore.
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sudo problem

[Bob Nielsen]

A few days ago, sudo (potato) stopped working for me.  I get the
following error message:

$ sudo ppplog
sudo: unable to lookup  via gethostbyname(): Resource
temporarily unavailable
Segmentation fault

I see that a new version of sudo was installed a few days ago.  It
works fine on another computer with the same version, however.  Logging
in as a user and running su works.  Any thoughts?

Bob

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Re: 2 computers away 1 Km and one PL

[Chris Wagner]

At 12:22 PM 11/27/99 -0200, Paulo Henrique Baptista de Oliveira wrote:
>   Yes. No software extra needed? PPP? just as simple as ethernet.

Right.


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Re: Do I need a news server?

[Pann McCuaig]

On Fri, Nov 26, 1999 at 09:39, Mark Wagnon wrote:

> I'm learning to use slrn to read newsgroups, but everytime I start
> it, I have to download all the message headers/bodies again. I'm not
> looking to become a news server for other sites, I just want my local
> users (basically just me) to be able to read a few selected NGs.

You need slrnpull also, methinks.

Luck,
Pann
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LPD Problem

[Sven Gaerner]

Hi!

I have a problem with the LP Daemon.
On my server I'm running slink with proposed-updates. On the other machine runs
potato.
I generated on my server a /etc/printcap by the installation script for
apsfilter (running on both machines).
I added to each printer entry the line
:rs#1:\

On my client I modified the remote printer entry. That's all.

My problem is now: I can start the daemon by /etc/init.d/lpd start. But I can
not print. When I call /etc/init.d/lpd restart on the console it says
Stopping line printer daemon: lpd not running.
Starting line printer daemon: lpd.

But the daemon still does not run.

Can anybody help me?

Bye,

Sven

Debian up, now what about Corel's sndconfig?

[Bart Szyszka]

Hi,

I'm really exited because I finally got Debian working after
doing an slink to potato upgrade. What finally did it is I have
put on hold the modutils, pcmcia-cs, and setserial packages
after uninstalling pcmcia-cs (although I think a modutils upgrade
probably won't hurt, but I'm afraid to try it). Then I did an upgrade
to potato.

What I'm wondering about is that there were some features I
would have liked in Corel Linux (I was considering installing it,
but didn't get very far with its installation program), with one of
them being sndconfig. I remember that program being included
in Red Hat and it had automatically detected and configured my 
sound card. Is it possible to somehow get sndconfig from Corel
and have it working in Debian? On the CD I made from the ISO
I found a file called 'SNDCONFIG' in the LIVE -> SBIN folder
(F:\LIVE\SBIN in Windows) of the CD, but what do I do with it? It
doesn't have a file extension so I can't tell what format it's in.

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IBM 9504 with a s3 ViRGE/DX on X

[Kenneth Eichler]

Dear Sir,

Did you ever get your IBM 9504 working correctly with your Virge/DX video
card? If so, would you share your secret with us non-tech types?

Sincerely,
Ken Eichler

Re: ICMP error

[Sebastian Canagaratna]

VTorres inquired about error messages involved " invalid ICMP
error..." Colin Wilson has given a useful solution. I got this
error too, but I traced this to the nmb daemon ( nmbd ) in the
samba suite.  When I run the daemon ( in potato; I believe I did
not get this in slink ) I got this error from one machine.  I find
it difficult to believe the error is in this one machine, since there
are other unic machines on our network which do not seem to give this
error. I believe there must the something wrong with the nmbd or how
we are confguring.  Any same experts out there who would care to
comment? 

Sebastian Canagaratna
Department of Chemistry
Ohio Northern University
Ada, OH 45810

Kernel, make menuconfig

[Antonio Rodriguez]

I am trying to recompile the kernel according to KERNEL HOWTO, when I do
make menuconfig it complains that there is no rule. I checked the info
make, it tells me that rule is a file that instructs about changes to be
made. The same happens with xconfig. This is vague for me, I have not
any good understanding of how exactly the kernel works, so I don't think
I can instruct how that should be done.
Do we have a simpler way in Debian?
Can you point some way for understanding what to do?
Thanks,
Antonio.

IP address change

[luis]

hello

i need to change the IP and name of one machine

which are the files i need to change?

thanks a lot

Re: Kernel, make menuconfig

[Martin Fluch]

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On Fri, 26 Nov 1999, Antonio Rodriguez wrote:

> I am trying to recompile the kernel according to KERNEL HOWTO, when I do
> make menuconfig it complains that there is no rule. I checked the info
> make, it tells me that rule is a file that instructs about changes to be
> made. The same happens with xconfig. This is vague for me, I have not
> any good understanding of how exactly the kernel works, so I don't think
> I can instruct how that should be done.
> Do we have a simpler way in Debian?
> Can you point some way for understanding what to do?
> Thanks,

Usualy 'make' seraches for the file 'Makefile' (which contains the rules
you mentioned) in the current directory. So if have for example untared
the kernel source into the directory /usr/src/linux then you must make a
'cd' to this directory and then 'make menuconfig'...

Martin

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File permissions

[Antonio Rodriguez]

While checking some files with ls -l, I have found some permission
settings such as:
drwx--S---
drwxr-sr-x

I have not seen anywhere documentation on settings other than r,w,x. Can
you tell where I can find their meaning? Would be great if in the little
docs we could see everything possible at once. For a non-UNIX former
user this is hard.
Thanks,
Antonio.

Re: Kernel, make menuconfig

[Antonio Rodriguez]

Thanks Martin, it is working now

Martin Fluch wrote:

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> On Fri, 26 Nov 1999, Antonio Rodriguez wrote:
>
> > I am trying to recompile the kernel according to KERNEL HOWTO, when I do
> > make menuconfig it complains that there is no rule. I checked the info
> > make, it tells me that rule is a file that instructs about changes to be
> > made. The same happens with xconfig. This is vague for me, I have not
> > any good understanding of how exactly the kernel works, so I don't think
> > I can instruct how that should be done.
> > Do we have a simpler way in Debian?
> > Can you point some way for understanding what to do?
> > Thanks,
>
> Usualy 'make' seraches for the file 'Makefile' (which contains the rules
> you mentioned) in the current directory. So if have for example untared
> the kernel source into the directory /usr/src/linux then you must make a
> 'cd' to this directory and then 'make menuconfig'...
>
> Martin
>
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Modem

[Jianbo Wang]

Hi,

I purchased a viking modem. It's Lucent compatible. I don't know if it
works for Debian 2.2 with kernel 2.2.12. And also, my first modem need be
used as sound card, so would somebody please tell me how how tell kernel
to switch to my new modem even the old modem is still conected to my
linux. Thanks!

Happy thanksgiving?

Jianbo 

PS. On imcompatible hardware list, there is AT&T lucent winmodem

Re: File permissions

[Rolf Schillinger]

On Fri, 26 Nov 1999, Antonio Rodriguez wrote:

> While checking some files with ls -l, I have found some permission
> settings such as:
> drwx--S---
> drwxr-sr-x
> 
> I have not seen anywhere documentation on settings other than r,w,x. Can
> you tell where I can find their meaning? Would be great if in the little
> docs we could see everything possible at once. For a non-UNIX former
> user this is hard.
> Thanks,
> Antonio.
this is the suid bit. For a good description see:
http://www.nic.com/~dave/SecurityAdminGuide/SecurityAdminGuide-8.html
regards, Rolf

Mouse problem

[Micha Feigin]

I just upgraded from a 485dx2 using a bus mouse which worked great to a
pentiumIII450.
I move the whole system to the new disk but the mouse doesn't seem to
work.
I tried most protocols (microsoft, m s system (I think, its the second
option) ps/2 and mst others).
When i set it to port /dev/ttyS0 x comes up fine with no worning about not
finding the mouse, but the mouse pointer won't move.
The mouse is connected to a ps/2 mouse port (it has a ps/2 connection)
Its a noramal three button logitech mouse.
it works fine in windows , but i couldn't find any information under
windows as to the port its connected to. (there was something about a ps/2
port, not very coherent).
I know I have three serial ports apearing on the port check.
Two sockets with nothing connected to them, looks like com1 and com3, i
think both are 16550A, and a modem (US robotiks 56K int PnP modem, which
doesn't work either BTW, if anyone has any sujestions where to start with
it) on com2.
The motherboard is an intell 820 pentium II/III (camino) as it apears on
the booklet.
Any idea's how do i set up the mouse for X? (I guess that its a problem
with the port I'm defining it to but I'm not shure)

Thanx
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: good book to learn perl

[Hamish Moffatt]

On Sun, Nov 21, 1999 at 08:39:01PM -0500, Tim Ayers wrote:
> I agree with others that 'Learning Perl' is the best book for people
> with little programming experiencing. Be certain to get the second
> edition that has been updated to Perl 5 (which is VERY different from
> Perl 4 that the first edition was based on.)

Well, the book only covers the basic stuff which really hasn't
changed much. I have the Llama 1st edition and have noticed very
few changes in actually using Perl5 (mostly chop versus chomp).

>   #!/usr/local/bin/perl -w

#!/usr/bin/perl -w

would be better on Debian.


Hamish
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pcmcia network card dramas

[Hamish Moffatt]

I have a Toshiba Satellite 310 with ToPIC 97 PCMCIA controller.
When pcmcia is started (in potato) if my network card (IC-CARD+ ethernet)
is already inserted, it is detected as "anonymous memory".

If I insert the card after starting pcmcia, it is detected correctly.
This started a few months ago in a pcmcia-cs upgrade.
Has anyone else experienced this?


Hamish
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