Re: Converting RH to Deb

1999-03-27 Thread Martin Bialasinski

>> "GB" == George Bonser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

GB> Just wondering if there is anyone here familliar enough with the
GB> Red Hat system to know if this is possible with a reasonable
GB> effort:

Someone tried (successfully) to convert his Redhat installation to
Debian. But reading his notes, I would strongly consider to backup the 
important data and make a clean install. It does not seam sane, and I
wonder how much cruft there is left.

http://www.geocities.com/ResearchTriangle/3328/rh5todeb-howto.txt

Ciao,
Martin


staroffice question

1999-03-27 Thread Shawn Nguyen
Hi,

I am thinking about getting Star Office for my Debian Box but I had a 
question.  I noticed that there is a Star Office 5.0 edition available from 
the star office site.  Do I have to download the older version (3.1) of 
Star Office in order for it to work with the Debian Installer?  If anyone 
has any experience with this I'd just like some advice.  Thanks in advance 
for any help.

Shawn


Dual-boot install with SCSI HD

1999-03-27 Thread pschwebe
I want to install Debian 2.0 on an AMD K6-2 system. I'm using an ATAPI/IDE 
CD-ROM. My HD are both SCSI, running off a SIIG AP40 controller. One drive for 
Win95, the other for Debian. The boot drive boots Win95.

The Debian install doesn't see the SCSI drives. How do I fix this?

Thanks for any help.

Paul Schwebel, Professional Techno-Geek
San Dieguito Union High School District
---
"Oh, you have to plug it in!!!"


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Re: CD-R/RW Question

1999-03-27 Thread Ulrik Haugen
Sorry for sending this to you twice Kenneth... Seems I just can't get used
to the Reply-To's.
* Kenneth Scharf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> I have also been told that the 2x and 4x drives only will write ONCE at
> that speed without powering down the computer (and therefore the drive)
> to let it cool down.  But you can burn forever at 1x.  Anyone had this
> problem? 
Nope.
I roasted both slink cd's, one at 2x speed and one at 4x speed without
powering down my pc. I have an  HP cdwriter+ 8100 that roasts CD-Rs at
4x speed and CD-RWs at 2x speed.

-- 
Ulrik Haugen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
"I contend that we are both atheists. I just believe in one fewer god than you
do. When you understand why you dismiss all the other possible gods, you will
understand why I dismiss yours." -- Stephen Roberts


Re: staroffice question

1999-03-27 Thread Peter Berlau
On Fri, Mar 26, 1999 at 03:17:27PM -, Shawn Nguyen wrote:
Hi,
You don't must install a previous copy of staroffice,
if You suck the staroffice package from the net there
is a installation-routine which do the installation.
it runs, .. very slow ... , but it runs ;-)
only one thing is unlucky, You need to get a
key for the license, if You don't have the key the
version is time-limited


> 
>   I am thinking about getting Star Office for my Debian Box but I had a 
> question.  I noticed that there is a Star Office 5.0 edition available from 
> the star office site.  Do I have to download the older version (3.1) of 
> Star Office in order for it to work with the Debian Installer?  If anyone 
> has any experience with this I'd just like some advice.  Thanks in advance 
> for any help.
> 
> Shawn
> 
> 
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Re: CD-R/RW Question

1999-03-27 Thread MallarJ
I just burned 3 CDs back to back today at 2x speed.  Never have heard of
anything that requires you to power down after writing a CD, and frankly, any
drive that would require such a thing wouldn't be used by me in the first
place.  I seriously doubt there is such a beast.


PHP & Apache 1.3.5

1999-03-27 Thread Marek Habersack
Hi,
  Does anyone know where can I find binary debs for PHP compiled to work with
Apache 1.3.5?

thanks in advance

marek

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Ever have one of those "cool!" moments?

1999-03-27 Thread MallarJ
I've been playing (read frustrating myself crazy) with Linux now for a few
months.  I have done an upgrade from hamm to slink.  I figured out how to get
X running.  I figured out how to get KDE installed.  I can call my ISP.

I just had one of those "cool!" moments I thought I'd share with everyone
since this list always seems to be filled with "it don't work!" posts.

I just used pon under KDE, connected to my ISP, started up Netscape, and read
my AOL e-mail.  Now I'm replying to the list using AOL's NetMail from within
Netscape.  "Cool!"  Call it my first productive task since I installed Linux.

Now if I can just get Quicken 99 to run under Linux, I can finally get rid of
"that OTHER OS".

-Jay


Re: staroffice question

1999-03-27 Thread Tabor Kelly
I simply used thier script to install it. This doesn't allow you to 
uninstall it with Dselect, but oh-well.

Tabor Kelly
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

> Hi,
> 
>   I am thinking about getting Star Office for my Debian Box but I had a 
> question.  I noticed that there is a Star Office 5.0 edition available from 
> the star office site.  Do I have to download the older version (3.1) of 
> Star Office in order for it to work with the Debian Installer?  If anyone 
> has any experience with this I'd just like some advice.  Thanks in advance 
> for any help.
> 
> Shawn



Re: CD-R/RW Question

1999-03-27 Thread Tabor Kelly
I burn multiple CD's with my EIDE cd-rom burner all the time. And no 
where in the documentation did it tell me I couldn't. My software 
even let's me burn multiple copies.

Tabor Kelly
[EMAIL PROTECTED]


Re: Netscape

1999-03-27 Thread Christian Dysthe
Hi,

if you want to keep this version of Netscape, just install the xlibc6 in the
oldlibs directory and it should work.


On 26-Mar-99 Bob Nielsen wrote:
> You probably downloaded the libc5 version of netscape and installed used
> the debian netscape4 installer package. You could install the necessary
> libc5 packages, but I'd recommend installing the debianized version with
> dselect (4.08 is in potato, 4.07 in slink) or getting the libc6 version at
> ftp://ftp.netscape.com/pub/communicator/4.08/english/unix/unsupported/linux20_
> glibc2/
> and using the installer package again. 
> 
> Bob
> 
> 
> On Fri, 26 Mar 1999, Kevin Lee wrote:
> 
>> 
>> I just installed Netscape 4.08 using dselect on debian 2.1.  When I try to
>> start Netscape I get the following error:
>> 
>> ./netscape: can't load library 'libXpm.so.4'
>> 
>> I appreciate any help you all can give.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Kevin Lee
>> Vulcan Industries
>> (205) 640-2433
>> 
>> mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> 
>> http://www.vulcanind.com
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
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>> 
>> 
> 
> 
> Bob Nielsen Internet: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Tucson, AZ  AMPRnet:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> DM42nh  http://www.primenet.com/~nielsen
> 
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Re: Zombies

1999-03-27 Thread Kent West
> BTW, has anyone else noticed that the manpage for ps(1) is uglier than sin?
> Whose idea of nroff formatting is that?

Mine looks okay; well, other than it being a man page and I find most man pages
ugly to begin with, but only because I speak English instead of Developer  :)
(why don't they ever give real-life examples of the command instead of just
techno-speak?)

Okay- new question. When I tried to send this message I got an error from
Netscape Messenger saying that I couldn't send it to Branden because the
Administrator had prohibited it. AFAIK, "I" am the Administrator, and I don't
recall ever prohibiting sending mail to anyone or anywhere. What gives?





Can't send-prohibited by Administrator (was Re: Zombies)

1999-03-27 Thread Kent West
Kent West wrote:
> Okay- new question. When I tried to send this message I got an error from
> Netscape Messenger saying that I couldn't send it to Branden because the
> Administrator had prohibited it. AFAIK, "I" am the Administrator, and I don't
> recall ever prohibiting sending mail to anyone or anywhere. What gives?


MORE INFO
I changed my Netscape preferences so that my outgoing server was my
ISP's server, and then I was able to send it. When it was set to
"localhost" it didn't work, but I've never had any trouble before.

Or have I sent any mail since installing Netscape? Hmmm, maybe I
haven't; it's only been a few days, so that's possible.

Anyone have any enlightment to share with me on this?


xfstt && printing

1999-03-27 Thread wax_man
I'm having printing problems relating to my use of xfstt (true type
server).  My printer is attached to a little 486 machine which is being
used as a dialup/print server.  I don't have X installed, and don't
have the room or power for it on that machine.

Anyway, is there a way to make it see xfstt when printing?  I just
tried to print from netscape (which is using some true type fonts), and
was given Error: /invalid font in findfont.  Further in the error
message it states that it can't find times new roman.

Any help on how to fix this would be appreciated.

TIA,

chris


Re: Zombies

1999-03-27 Thread Joey Hess
Kent West wrote:
> Mine looks okay; well, other than it being a man page and I find most man 
> pages
> ugly to begin with, but only because I speak English instead of Developer  :)

Have to agree with Brandon, it's completly broken. There _is_ no nroff
formatting, they took a preformatted text file and stuck enough of a header
on it so apropos works, but it's all preformatted. Nasty.

.\" This man page is a horrid hack because *roff sucks.
.\" The whole system is way obsolete. The internal header
.\" stuff must die, and will when I figure out how to kill it.
.\" I've already killed the wasteful left margin and screwy
.\" old perfect justification. Gross! You'd think someone
.\" invented this crap in 1973. Oh yeah, they did. Sorry.

Heh.

> (why don't they ever give real-life examples of the command instead of just
> techno-speak?)

Good ones do. :-)

-- 
see shy jo


netstat entry

1999-03-27 Thread Andrei Ivanov
Evening all.
I've found this entry in netstat output:
tcp   57  1 Mizzou-AS7-21.mis:10802 pavlov.midco.net:ftp LAST_ACK

Thing is, I don't remember connecting to pavlov.midco.net
There are no entries in syslog with name pavlov, or xferlog, for that
matter. Any ideas where else I can look if my system has been accessed by
an outsider?
Thanks,
 Andrew


Re: netstat entry

1999-03-27 Thread Andrei Ivanov

> Midco is one of the primary ftp mirrors for Debian.

*slaps himself* Doh. I should have thought of that.
Thanks a lot.
 Andrew


RE: Can't send-prohibited by Administrator (was Re: Zombies)

1999-03-27 Thread Pollywog

On 27-Mar-99 Kent West wrote:
> Kent West wrote:
>> Okay- new question. When I tried to send this message I got an error from
>> Netscape Messenger saying that I couldn't send it to Branden because the
>> Administrator had prohibited it. AFAIK, "I" am the Administrator, and I
>> don't
>> recall ever prohibiting sending mail to anyone or anywhere. What gives?
> 
> 
Are you using Exim?

--
Andrew

[PGP5.0 Key ID 0x5EE61C37]



RE: Can't send-prohibited by Administrator (was Re: Zombies)

1999-03-27 Thread Pollywog

On 27-Mar-99 George Bonser wrote:
> On Sat, 27 Mar 1999, Pollywog wrote:
> 
>> Are you using Exim?
> 
> He must be, Adminstrative Prohibition is the standard Exim wave off
> message.
> 
> George Bonser
> 
> Support The THING -- http://shorelink.com/~grep/THING.html
> 
I had the same problem with Netscape, and it was one of those Exim options you
mentioned.  

--
Andrew

[PGP5.0 KeyID 0x5EE61C37]
[ICQ#175285]



Need printer help

1999-03-27 Thread Robbie Huffman

I'm hoping someone out here can help me discover why my printer won't print.

Until not very long ago, I was using a Slackware system, and sending my
infrequent print jobs by hand using "gs -dNOPAUSE -sDEVICE=laserjet 
-sOutputFile=/dev/lp1". Now that I've switched to Debian, I can't get that much 
to
work anymore. A good "tunelp /dev/lp1 -r" gets some response from the printer
(in the form of some printhead movement), but nothing else will. Using gs
sometimes causes the "busy" light to come on, but it quickly blinks out again.
The Printing-HOWTO doesn't have any debugging hints. I'm lost. And my only
guess is that the Debian setup for lpt1 is somehow different. Any pointers?

Thanks,
Robbie Huffman
[EMAIL PROTECTED]


Re: Can't send-prohibited by Administrator (was Re: Zombies)

1999-03-27 Thread Kent West
George Bonser wrote:
> 
> BTW, what does /var/log/exim/rejectlog give as a reason for rejecting the
> message?
> 
> Support THING! (THing Is Not GNU). http://shorelink.com/~grep/THING.html

1999-03-26 22:57:34 refused relay (host reject) to
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> from
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> H=westk03 (nicanor.acu.edu) [127.0.0.1] (westk)


Re: Netscape

1999-03-27 Thread Ed Cogburn
Christian Dysthe wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> if you want to keep this version of Netscape, just install the xlibc6 in the

**
> oldlibs directory and it should work.


I think Christian meant "xlib6".  xlib6 is the X Window lib
compiled for libc5, xlib6g is the libc6 version.  In fact, the
libc5 based version of NS requires several libs from the oldlibs
section:  libc5,libstdc++28 (I think), xlib6, and xpm4.7.

I urge the original poster to simply get the libc6 version of NS,
so they don't have to mess with the oldlibs junk.  Either get the
libc6 version from ftp.netscape.com and use the installer, or, if
running slink and/or potato, then just install the Debianized NS
(with its torrent of required base packages! Ick.).


HTH,
-- 
Ed C.


update-rc.d

1999-03-27 Thread Piotr Legiecki
Hi
I'v received an answer to my question about managing links in rcx.d 
directories, but it wasn't what I was talking about.
The update-rc.d scripts simply removes links AND scripts from init.d directory 
and I want only temporarly disable
running some daemons during system startup (like netsysv or chkconfig from 
RedHat).
Hm, is there only one solution = by hand??!!

Hi
Piotr Legiecki


Re: Sorry, it's sound again, pls. help

1999-03-27 Thread Roy-Anders Larsen
On Fri, 26 Mar 1999, O. Niepolt wrote:

> which _is_ the standard kernel for slink? Would it make sense to use 2.2
> or to use ALSA? Where could I find 2.2 kernel debs? I'm asking this

I have an SB16PnP and I recently posted the instructions on how I did the
sound on my system to this debian-user list, see:
http://www.debian.org/Lists-Archives/debian-user-9903/msg03187.html
I think http://netgod.net/ has the latest kernel debs, but I don't know if
there are any sound modules compiled in those debs.
I'm currently running Debian 2.1 (slink), with kernel 2.2.4, and
everything seems to work fine (except for the midi/synth, that is, and
I've tried mostly anything I could think of to make it work.  Not even the
real OSS driver worked on that part).

Roy

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Netscape 4.5 Crash

1999-03-27 Thread Bernhard Dobbels
Hi,

If i click on a mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]"> tag and my messenger-window
is not open, Netscape crashes. If messenger-window is open, everyting goes
well. 

Any solution (or do i have to wait until 5.0)?


--
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option Automation and Computersystems.
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Help with CD writing

1999-03-27 Thread XRDLAB
Hello,

I am using an ide cd-writer (HP7100i) to burn cd's. I have recompiled
the kernel (2.0.34) with scsi emulation enabled. So far I am able to
burn cd's after making an image of the files/directories I need to 
burn using mkisofs. I have some problems/questions for which I need 
some assistance:

1. When scsi emulation is enabled, how do I mount my regular cd's?

2. Xcdroast could detect both my ide-cd reader and writer. But I was
   not able to copy data/auido cd onto a blank cd. It always says that
   the cd-drive is empty. What has to be setup to get it working? 

Thanks for any suggestions,

sridhar


Sridhar M. A.
Department of Physics
University of Mysore, Manasagangotri
Mysore 570 006, INDIA

Tel: +91-821-516133
Fax: +91-821-516133

E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Re: Can't get sound module installed

1999-03-27 Thread Richard Harran
Just posting to thank everyone who helped me to sort this out. My
problem was that I hadn't selected all the necessary options in the
sound section of the config.  I also needed to create the audio device
files with: cd /dev
./MAKEDEV audio
Thanks again
Rich

Graham Ashton wrote:
> 
> On Friday 26 March, Richard Harran wrote:
> 
> > Could someone please tell me either what I might be doing wrong, or how
> > I could do the 'configure the sound driver with CONFIG_AUDIO option'
> > thing.
> 
> have you done either "make config", "make menuconfig" or "make xconfig" before
> the "make dep; make clean" ?
> 
> if not, that's your problem. you need to configure the kernel first so that
> "make" knows which bits you want to build in. otherwise you won't be getting a
> kernel that's customised to your hardware - you'll be getting the default,
> which doesn't include audio support. "make menuconfig" and "make
> xconfig" are nicer than "make config", but they all do the same job.
> 
> read the documentation in the Documentation subdirectory of the kernel
> source.  I think there's a HOWTO on kernel compilation too - you'll find
> it at http://metalab.unc.edu/LDP/
> 
> --
> Graham
> 
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Re: Debian 2.1 Installation a mess

1999-03-27 Thread Martin Bialasinski

>> "SN" == Shawn Nguyen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

SN> 10.) Finds out that GPM can't be set up because doesn't look like
SN> serial module is running.

So, did you install the serial module during installation? If not, use 
modconf to do it.

Ciao,
Martin


Re: what is "net-pf-19"?

1999-03-27 Thread Gregory T. Norris
On Wed, Mar 24, 1999 at 10:58:26PM -, Pollywog wrote:
> 
> Isn't net-pf-19 for Appletalk?  I had to disable it also.

I believe Appletalk is "net-pf-5".


Re: install

1999-03-27 Thread Martin Bialasinski

>> "g" == gio  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

g> We received your three CD's without boot disk. Is the boot disk
g> missing or is there a different way to install Linux.

You can install Debian from bootdisks (they are on the CD, you can
create them), by booting from CD oder by running the install.bat.

See the documentation in the install directory on the CD.

g> I tried to boot from DOS, then went to the Linux CD and ran the
g> boot.bat but Linux can't see the SCSI drive. It's hooked up to an
g> Adaptec 7890 U2 controller. The HD is an IBM 9.1GB LVD. Help is
g> greatly appreciated.

This should work with Debian 2.1
In Debian 2.0, the kernel does not have drivers for this host adapter.

Check http://www.debian.org/~adric/aic7xxx/ for updated bootdisks
(hamm is the directory for the Debian 2.0 ones).

Ciao,
Martin


Re: MTA and SMTP ident

1999-03-27 Thread Martin Bialasinski

>> "GC" == G Crimp <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

GC> The From: header is okay, but the envelope From header gets
GC> written as [EMAIL PROTECTED]  The my.isp.com is getting through
GC> because I could tell smail that my visible_name was the domain of
GC> my ISP and not the local machine name.

GC> Some mailing lists don't like the fact the From: field and the
GC> envelope don't agree and reject my mail. 

I believe you are wrong here. This would be damn stupid (BTW, the
mailinglist might reject the message based on this, the receiving MTA
however must not do this).

I have no problems with something like that. Did you choose to send
_all_ outgoing mail via your isp's smtp server (smarthost)?

For me, I just set the visible_name and use the method described in
http://www.debian.org/fom/137.html to change the From: and Sender:
header (so I don't have to do it im every programm sending mails).

Ciao,
Martin


Re: Some questions about IP Masquerading

1999-03-27 Thread Martin Bialasinski

>> "MP" == Mark Phillips <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

MP> /sbin/depmod -a
MP> /sbin/modprobe ip_masq_ftp
MP> /sbin/modprobe ip_masq_raudio
MP> ...etc

MP> I presume that under debian I actually just add these modules to
MP> /etc/modules??

Yes.

MP> is short for "video live"??  And I have no idea about "cuseeme"??

Some video conferencing application (for Windows).

MP> Why isn't "http" here --- doesn't it need a module?  What about
MP> "rlogin", "telnet", "ping" and "pop3" (email)??

These don't require special modules (for ping, you have to enable ICMP 
masquerading during kernel config).

MP> 3.  What does "ipv4" stand for?  Is it specifically masquerading stuff?

No, IPv4 is the usual IP protocol you use.
 
MP> 4.  The HOWTO says:

MP> IMPORTANT: IP forwarding is disabled by default since 2.0.34
MP> kernels, please make sure you enable it by running
MP> echo "1" > /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward 

MP> This seems a very strange way to enable something.  Does it need to be
MP> done at boot time, or when?  Why is it done like this?

Seems like a little thing to enhance security. You setup the thing
(load the modules, setup the firewall), then, when the network is
secure, you actually enable it.

Ciao,
Martin


Re: Coupla quick questions...

1999-03-27 Thread Martin Bialasinski

>> "GS" == Gary Singleton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

GS> 2.)  I noticed in my /var/log/syslog that when
GS> connecting to my ISP I got the message "modprobe: can't
GS> locate module char-major-10".  I checked the archives
GS> and dejanews and found some discussion but all I could
GS> garner was to alias it to off in /etc/conf.modules.  I
GS> did it and the message went away but I don't really
GS> understand what I did.

I don't know why it wanted to use this module. According to
/usr/src/linux/Documentation/devices.txt it is 
 10 charNon-serial mice, misc features

GS> 3.)  I think when I recompiled my kernel for sound I somehow lost
GS> what used to be called "slhc" or slip header compression - I use
GS> PPP so I don't know if I need it but...

Maybe you didn't enable it, or you compiled it into the kernel (maybe
it is created when you compile ppp as module).

GS> 4.)  What does "Cannot determine ethernet address for proxy ARP"
GS> mean?  I checked the archives/dejanews and determined that I
GS> prolly don't need it so I turned it off in /etc/ppp/peers/provider
GS> but I'd still like to know what it's for.

It makes the box dialing in appear as if it is located at the remote
LAN. Basically. Pretty advanced stuff. You don't need it, as you found 
out yourself.

GS> 5.)  (Last one I swear!)  I noticed in my ppp.log that
GS> my ISP may be trying chap first before pap - I'll post
GS> the relevant parts of the log if necessary but here's
GS> what looks important:

GS> ...pppd[174]: rcvd [LCP ConfReq..
GS> ...pppd[174]: sent [LCP ConfRej...
GS> ...pppd[174]: rcvd [LCP ConfReq..
GS> ...pppd[174]: send [LCP ConfNak...
GS> ...pppd[174]: rcvd [LCP ConfReq...

GS> Then it does some more stuff.  Should I change my
GS> config to chap?

You could try it. It is more secure, and LCP negociation will be done
a little but faster.

Ciao,
Martin


Two dosemu problems--second try

1999-03-27 Thread Curt Daugaard
Can anyone shed any light on these?

(1) I can't start dosemu in an X-window or use the modem except as root,
even though I have "all c_all" permissions set for myself in the user
config file.  (Before I upgraded from v.66 to v.98.1 I was able to run
under X, but I didn't try the modem.)

(2) When I open a session in a dialup/3270 emulator package I use (Passport
for dos), the cursor becomes invisible.  (The cursor is visible when I
first start the application, but vanishes when I open the terminal
session.)  None of the video settings for dosemu under X looks like a
likely fix, though I have tried changing them.

Thanks in advance.

--

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kernel 2.0.36 and netgear fa310 netcard

1999-03-27 Thread Marco Frattola
hi all,
i'm using a 2.0.36 home-built kernel with a fa310 netgear card (10-100).
the netgear driver (source) came in the floppy accompaining the card and
replaced the tulip driver originally in 2.0.36 (i also tried the old one,
but the card didn't work).
this is my problem: the card is 'plugged' in a switch on a 100mb port (it's
100mb only, no autosense). the 100mb led on the card is lit. but ifconfig
reports my card as if it were running at 10mb. who is lying?
also: the card works at half-duplex mode. how can i make it run at
full-duplex? i searched the source of tulip.c, but couldn't find any switch
to turn it on.

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Re: update-rc.d

1999-03-27 Thread shaleh
> 
> Hi
> I'v received an answer to my question about managing links in rcx.d 
> directories, but it wasn't what I was talking about.
> The update-rc.d scripts simply removes links AND scripts from init.d 
> directory and I want only temporarly disable
> running some daemons during system startup (like netsysv or chkconfig from 
> RedHat).
> Hm, is there only one solution = by hand??!!
> 

actually it does not remove the script in /etc/init.d only the symlinks in the
rc.? directories.  So if you want the script but no rc entries, remove -f is
safe.  Another solution is to change the run levels a script starts in.  if
you always boot into run level 2, then making things not start in run level
two means that you never see them.

Look at the man page for update-rc.d, it is rather clear here.


svgalib mouse problems

1999-03-27 Thread ivan
Hello,

I'm having trouble in two areas whilst trying to learn to programme the mouse 
under svgalib.

1. The programme that comes with the source mousetest.c once compiled will run 
correctly for root but not for me (ivan). The error is "svgalib: Failed to 
initialise mouse."

This programme is setuid root & there is no difficulty in setting up the 
display - it's just the mouse operations that aren't recognised.  BTW, another 
mouse driven programme spin.c works perfectly no matter who runs it.

Also, the mouse works in X and on the console.

Does anyone have any ideas on this - I have checked the code numerous times & 
can't find any reason for this peculiar behaviour ?

2. I have a small programme that I have written myself



int main(void)
{
int mousex,mousey;
int i;
vga_init();
vga_setmode(35);
gl_setcontextvga(35);
gl_enableclipping();
vga_setmousesupport(1);
printf("mousetype %d\n",vga_getmousetype());
mousex=mousey=100;
draw_mouse_cursor(mousex,mousey);
for(;;)
{
mouse_update();
mousex = mouse_getx();
mousey = mouse_gety();
draw_mouse_cursor(mousex,mousey);
if(vga_getkey()!=0) break;
}



This I have checked also and is setuid root as it should be but no matter who 
runs the programme the mouse movement is not recognised.

I realise this is not the best place for detailed programming questions but the 
c language newsgroup (comp.languages.c IIRC) seems to be pathologically devoted 
to ANSII discussion only.

As always, any and all comments, answers & questions welcomed.  A copy of 
libvga.config file supplied on request.

Ivan.


Problems with S3 Trio 3D 2x AGP

1999-03-27 Thread Eurisko
Hello!

I have a big problem: I have a S3 video card with 4 Mb but I'm not able to
make it work fine.

I've tried with the S3 and SVGA servers, but it only works with the VGA16.

Video Card Specifications:

S3 Trio 3D2x Version 2.0B.06

SuperProbe report chipset: 0x8a13



Star Office 5 & Potato/Glibc2.1??

1999-03-27 Thread Ryan K. Losh


pgpd3KtnN93Gk.pgp
Description: PGP message


My thanks (belated) to Gregory Noonan

1999-03-27 Thread Nun Yobiznez
Dear Sir,
Thank you for your redirection in the way of
install. It helped me greatly in overcoming the
hurdle to installation.
  Tim

P.S. Sorry for the delay.I've been trying to get
the install correctly configured but have run into
problems w/ the perl and lib6 packages not
configuring correctly..It taken a little of my
time and I might have to bother the user list again
soon to help me iron this one out too. Thanks
Again!!!








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My thanks (belated) to Gregory Noonan

1999-03-27 Thread Nun Yobiznez

Dear Sir,
Thank you for your redirection in the way of
install. It helped me greatly in overcoming the
hurdle to installation.
  Tim

P.S. Sorry for the delay.I've been trying to get
the install correctly configured but have run into
problems w/ the perl and lib6 packages not
configuring correctly..It taken a little of my
time and I might have to bother the user list again
soon to help me iron this one out too. Thanks
Again!!!










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Re: update-rc.d

1999-03-27 Thread Ben Collins
On Sat, Mar 27, 1999 at 09:35:27AM +0100, Piotr Legiecki wrote:
> Hi
> I'v received an answer to my question about managing links in rcx.d 
> directories, but it wasn't what I was talking about.
> The update-rc.d scripts simply removes links AND scripts from init.d 
> directory and I want only temporarly disable
> running some daemons during system startup (like netsysv or chkconfig from 
> RedHat).
> Hm, is there only one solution = by hand??!!

install the file-rc package. It let's you manage your init scripts from
a single conf file. You can comment out lines add lines etc. I use it
on my home and production system.

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test - please ignore

1999-03-27 Thread Pere Camps
This is a test.
please ignore.


Colour Map Problem

1999-03-27 Thread Shanta McBain
Hi

After much fooling around I have Communicator running but The problem now is 
the Colour map. Netscape requires true colour I
can only seem to get 4 bit susdo colour. How can I get 8 bit or higher colour. 
In this mode Netscape goes black and White not
to useful. Real hard on the eyes too as it sift in and out of colour as you 
move focus to other xwindows or off netscape.

I would also like to use my windows  95 user directory for netscape can I point 
netscape there? This would keep my mail in
order insted of leaving mail on the server then downloading again in windows.

Shanta


Re: Netscape mail - multiple "profiles"?

1999-03-27 Thread Vinicius De Mario
Christian Dysthe wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> I am running Netscape 4.5 under Debian (hamm). What I need is to be able is to
> open different Messenger "profiles" with different mail folders, different
Hi,

I'm using Kde mail client. It have a multi-profile facilitie who works
very well, like Netscape on Windows, with filters and etc.
My use of Netscape is restricted for browsing only (it's superior than
kfm).

Vinicius

> "From" addresses and different pop/smtp servers. Since Messenger isn't a multi
> account email client yet (unbelievable!) I thought I could do it this way.
> 
> There is maybe some command line options that makes Messenger read another ini
> file on startup?
> 
> I haver seen this done in Windows, but as a Linux newbie I do not feel I am
> able to replicate this procedure yet.
> 
> Can anyone help?
>


RedHat = MS-Linux???

1999-03-27 Thread Don Custer
I've been toying with Linux for about 3 years now.  I do not have it
mastered, but I haven't given up either.  Part of me is delighted with
the current regognition of Linux (RedHat), but the other part fears that
some entity such as Microsoft will somehow crawl out of the woodwork and
take over.  What are your views on this?  Eventually I would like to be
running Debian exclusively.  I will admit though that I am learning on
RedHat. Just curious..   Don


Question about mounting MS-DOS partition

1999-03-27 Thread William R Pentney

(I'm new to this mailing list, so if I am sending this message to the
wrong place, please accept my apologies.)

I have installed Debian 2.0 alongisde Windows 95 by splitting the Windows 
partition, and it was relatively headache free (phew!). I didn't leave as
much room on the Linux partition as I would like to have, because there
was some file at the end of the MS-DOS parition that defragging didn't
move. This didn't concern me, because I figured I could just mount the
MS-DOS partition and use it for extra space. But my roommate, who assisted
me with the installation, said that it's not a good idea to
store and run Linux programs on the MS-DOS partition. Is this true, and if
so, why?

Oh, and might anyone know what the file is at the end of my MS-DOS
partition? I don't run any sort of disk compression program.

- Thanks, Bill


Re: Zombies

1999-03-27 Thread Marcus Brinkmann

Package: procps
Version: 1:1.9.0-2
Severity: wishlist

On Fri, Mar 26, 1999 at 10:58:10PM -0600, Kent West wrote:
> > BTW, has anyone else noticed that the manpage for ps(1) is uglier than sin?
> > Whose idea of nroff formatting is that?
> 
> Mine looks okay; well, other than it being a man page and I find most man 
> pages
> ugly to begin with, but only because I speak English instead of Developer  :)
> (why don't they ever give real-life examples of the command instead of just
> techno-speak?)

It's not a man page at all. Especially, the author seems to be completely
ignorant of any text formatiing system.

Yeah, this is a bug report. ps (1) should be a man page formatted in the
troff format.

Thanks,
Marcus

.\" Man page for ps.
.\" Quick hack conversion by Albert Cahalan, 1998.
.\" Licensed under version 2 of the Gnu General Public License.
.\"
.\" This man page is a horrid hack because *roff sucks.
.\" The whole system is way obsolete. The internal header
.\" stuff must die, and will when I figure out how to kill it.
.\" I've already killed the wasteful left margin and screwy
.\" old perfect justification. Gross! You'd think someone
.\" invented this crap in 1973. Oh yeah, they did.
.\"
.TH PS 1 "July 5, 1998" "Linux" "Linux User's Manual"
.SH \fRNAME\fR
ps \- report process status
.ad r
.na
.ss 12 0
.in 0
.nh
.nf

SYNOPSIS
ps [options]


DESCRIPTION
ps gives a snapshot of the current processes. If you want
a repetitive update of this status, use top or gtop. This man
page documents the /proc-based version of ps, or tries to.


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Hard Disk Boot Failure -- Endless 01 01 01 etc

1999-03-27 Thread Jeff Hill
When booting from hard disk, the system goes through memory test and
then starts an endless stream of zeros and ones. Booting from floppy
works fine. Any suggestions?

This is a new installation of release 2.1 (Mar. 9). I have it on the
first hard disk on the second IDE channel. As I'm building this server
on my development machine, I'm turning off the other disks (Windoze) and
primary IDE channel through the bios. I've installed Debian on three
servers in the past in a simmilar manner (as well as I can remember)
without any boot problems. 

Running on an Intel PentiumII Celeron, 350Mhz, ASUS P2B, 64 MB Ram, etc.

Thanks for any ideas.

Jeff Hill


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Re: Hard Disk Boot Failure -- Endless 01 01 01 etc

1999-03-27 Thread Johan Groth
Jeff Hill wrote:
> 
> When booting from hard disk, the system goes through memory test and
> then starts an endless stream of zeros and ones. Booting from floppy
> works fine. Any suggestions?

It seems to me that LILO is broken on the HD. Try to reinstall LILO on
the HD.

///Johan


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Re: Question about mounting MS-DOS partition

1999-03-27 Thread Bob Nielsen
On Sat, 27 Mar 1999, William R Pentney wrote:

> 
> (I'm new to this mailing list, so if I am sending this message to the
> wrong place, please accept my apologies.)
> 
> I have installed Debian 2.0 alongisde Windows 95 by splitting the Windows 
> partition, and it was relatively headache free (phew!). I didn't leave as
> much room on the Linux partition as I would like to have, because there
> was some file at the end of the MS-DOS parition that defragging didn't
> move. This didn't concern me, because I figured I could just mount the
> MS-DOS partition and use it for extra space. But my roommate, who assisted
> me with the installation, said that it's not a good idea to
> store and run Linux programs on the MS-DOS partition. Is this true, and if
> so, why?
> 
> Oh, and might anyone know what the file is at the end of my MS-DOS
> partition? I don't run any sort of disk compression program.

It probably has either a S or H attribute.  I assume you used fips to
split the partition.  The fips documentation deals with this.  You need
disable virtual memory, remove these attributes from any files which have 
them (keep a list), defrag, reinstate the attributes. 

Bob


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Re: Sorry, it's sound again, pls. help

1999-03-27 Thread O. Niepolt
Roy-Anders Larsen wrote:

> I have an SB16PnP and I recently posted the instructions on how I did the
> sound on my system to this debian-user list, see:
> http://www.debian.org/Lists-Archives/debian-user-9903/msg03187.html
> I think http://netgod.net/ has the latest kernel debs, but I don't know if
> there are any sound modules compiled in those debs.
> I'm currently running Debian 2.1 (slink), with kernel 2.2.4, and
> everything seems to work fine (except for the midi/synth, that is, and
> I've tried mostly anything I could think of to make it work.  Not even the
> real OSS driver worked on that part).
> 

Thanks a lot Roy for these tips, especially for the links! I think I'll
go ahead and fetch a 2.2.* kernel and compile that, including sound
according to your instructions; I believe there were some source debs
under the URL that you gave me but I have to check that again.

I must say it really pisses me off that I have to re-compile the kernel
just to make the soundcard work (it happens that I have a SB16 PNP, too,
that's fairly standard hardware IMHO even here in Germany), but maybe
it's worth the effort. I just hope ppp and the other stuff won't
complain after the upgrade. 

BTW, did you see an increase in mem requirements after switching to
2.2.4?

Thanks again,

 -- Olaf


Where is "/etc/rc.d/rc.local" on Debian?

1999-03-27 Thread Christian Dysthe
Hi,

some non-Debian packaged software I have wanted to install requires to be
started at boot time. Often script bits are to be included in:

/etc/rc.d/rc.local

On my Debian system (slink) I can not figure out where to add this since I do
not find rc,local.

I am a newbie and do not undestand the init files in Debian yet. I have tried
to read up on it, but I am still confused.

Can anyone help me out, please?

TIA


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Re: Star Office 5 & Potato/Glibc2.1??

1999-03-27 Thread Martin Bialasinski

>> "RKL" == Ryan K Losh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

RKL> I know that I'm probably a moron for running "up to date" potato
RKL> systems.  However, when potato moved to Glibc 2.1, my Star Office
RKL> 5 stopped working.  Is there any way to have BOTH Glibc 2.0 and
RKL> 2.1, or is there some other way to make Star Office 5 work?

Try this:

From: Jules Bean <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Slink to potato upgrade 
To: John Lines <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
cc: Debian Developers 
X-Sent: 5 days, 20 hours, 5 minutes, 57 seconds ago
Resent-From: debian-devel@lists.debian.org

On Sun, 21 Mar 1999, John Lines wrote:

> Anthony Towns wrote:

>> As far as dodgy programs relying on undocumented features, I've no
>> idea what could be done. Redoing those features just for jdk might be
>> a good idea, maybe. :-/
 
> I have wondered about putting a copy of glibc2.0 into oldlibs and
> providing wrappers for programs (such as StarOffice) which break,
> and which we cant change. (Note I have not yet tried this, so I
> don't know if it will work)

It will work.

Just make sure you also have a copy of the ld-linux.so from glib2.0.

You need a wrapper something like this:

LD_LIBRARY_PATH=/path/to/glibc2.0 /path/to/ld-linux.so.fromglibc2.0
/path/to/app/which/breaks

(all one line)

Jules


Re: Where is "/etc/rc.d/rc.local" on Debian?

1999-03-27 Thread Mark Wagnon
Christian Dysthe wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> some non-Debian packaged software I have wanted to install requires to be
> started at boot time. Often script bits are to be included in:
> 
> /etc/rc.d/rc.local
> 
> On my Debian system (slink) I can not figure out where to add this since I do
> not find rc,local.
> 
> I am a newbie and do not undestand the init files in Debian yet. I have tried
> to read up on it, but I am still confused.
> 
> Can anyone help me out, please?


I think what you're looking for is /etc/init.d. Hopefully someone else
will post to confirm/deny this.

HTH and LOL
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Netscape problem

1999-03-27 Thread Shawn Nguyen
Hi,

Awhile back I saw something on here about a netscape problem I am 
getting 
now.  I guess I should have saved that message.  Anyway, it's got to do 
with netscape not being able to open the libXpm.so.4 library or soemthing 
like that.  Does anyone knows what I need to do to get it to run?  Thanks a 
lot for any help.

Shawn


Re: Netscape problem

1999-03-27 Thread Mark Wagnon
Shawn Nguyen wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> Awhile back I saw something on here about a netscape problem I am 
> getting
> now.  I guess I should have saved that message.  Anyway, it's got to do
> with netscape not being able to open the libXpm.so.4 library or soemthing
> like that.  Does anyone knows what I need to do to get it to run?  Thanks a
> lot for any help.

What version of Netscape are you running -- glibc or libc5? I'm running
libc5 and I had to install xpm???.deb from the oldlibs directory. That
may need you to install some other old libs, but I can't remember which.

If you're using the glibc version, I believe that if you install the
netscape4.deb and that should also install whatever you need to get
things going.

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Re: Netscape problem

1999-03-27 Thread dyer
Shawn Nguyen wrote:

> Hi,
>
> Awhile back I saw something on here about a netscape problem I am 
> getting
> now.  I guess I should have saved that message.  Anyway, it's got to do
> with netscape not being able to open the libXpm.so.4 library or soemthing
> like that.  Does anyone knows what I need to do to get it to run?  Thanks a
> lot for any help.

Shawn,
You need the old libc5 libs, (in oldlibs) or you can get the libc6 version of
Netscape.
BTW, you can search mailing list archives at debian's website.
www.debian.org/Lists-Archives/
use glimpse and search for libXpm.so.4


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>
> Shawn
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Re: Where is "/etc/rc.d/rc.local" on Debian?

1999-03-27 Thread Marek Habersack
On Sat, 27 Mar 1999, George Bonser wrote:

> > I am a newbie and do not undestand the init files in Debian yet. I have 
> > tried
> > to read up on it, but I am still confused.
> > 
> > Can anyone help me out, please?
> 
> Debian uses standard System V init files. There is no such thing as rc.d
> or rc.local in SysV, they come from BSD unix. You can fix the problem
> partially by creating a /etc/rc.d directory and then under that symlinking
> /etc/rc1.d to /etc/rc.d/rc1/d and so on for rc1.d through rc6.d as well as
> init.d.  Then you might create a file called local in /etc/init.d and
> install it with update-rc.d with a 99 so it gets run last. Then symlink
> /etc/init.d/local to /etc/rc.d/rc.local.
Hmm... isn't that a bit overkill? Why don't you just put stuff in /etc/rc.boot
or do cd /etc;mkdir rc.d;ln -sf rc.boot rc.d/rc.local???

marek

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ftp & mail

1999-03-27 Thread wtb

Does Debian 2.0 (hamm) installation have an ftp and mail program included
to use with the ppp?   I have the pon and poff controlling my modem.  It dials
and makes all sorts of wierd noises but then what.  I need ftp to
avoid floppy problems in getting netscape and X packages.  Thanks,  Bill


Re: Two dosemu problems--second try--ONE SOLVED

1999-03-27 Thread Curt Daugaard
So I'll respond to part of my own post.  In searching usenet, I
happend upon a solution (probably not the right one) to problem #1
(running under X and using the modem).  Running "xhost +" got dosemu running in an X-window.  (Huh, didn't used to have to do
that.)  Also, apparently in dosemu for an ordinary user to dial out the
ttyS* device has to have group write permissions.


I still have in invisible cursor, however.


On Sat, Mar 27, 1999 at 07:41:30AM -0600, Curt Daugaard wrote:
> Can anyone shed any light on these?
> 
> (1) I can't start dosemu in an X-window or use the modem except as root,
> even though I have "all c_all" permissions set for myself in the user
> config file.  (Before I upgraded from v.66 to v.98.1 I was able to run
> under X, but I didn't try the modem.)
> 
> (2) When I open a session in a dialup/3270 emulator package I use (Passport
> for dos), the cursor becomes invisible.  (The cursor is visible when I
> first start the application, but vanishes when I open the terminal
> session.)  None of the video settings for dosemu under X looks like a
> likely fix, though I have tried changing them.
> 
> Thanks in advance.
> 
> --
> 
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Re: ftp & mail

1999-03-27 Thread Andrei Ivanov
Weird noises you hear is modem, I believe.
And it's perfectly normal.
Anyway, once you can dial out to your ISP (do plog just to make sure that
you are connected), you can use apt or dselect to ftp files over to your
machine. No mail program though. And, before you can get Netscape, you
need to install X. If you really really want to surf the net without X,
get lynx. Basicly, what you got in base system is just enough to get you
into shell, so you can install the rest of packages. Just base system will
not get you anywhere, since it doesnt have X, man pages even, gcc or
anything. So just read docs about dselect/apt and use those to install
packages. If you don't succeed at ftpying files over to linux machine
directly, you can (if you have windows on your machine) DL files to your
windows partition, or dos, rather, and install files from there, using
'install from hard drive' access method in dselect. 
Andrew

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Re: ftp & mail

1999-03-27 Thread Mitch Blevins
In foo.debian-user, you wrote:
> Does Debian 2.0 (hamm) installation have an ftp and mail program included
> to use with the ppp?   I have the pon and poff controlling my modem.  It dials
> and makes all sorts of wierd noises but then what.  I need ftp to
> avoid floppy problems in getting netscape and X packages.  Thanks,  Bill

There are many ftp and mail programs included.
For the command line, you can use the program called "ftp" for ftp.
And you can use the program called (surprisingly) "mail" for mail.

However, dselect has methods build-in for getting packages.
Try running dselect and choosing an access method.  From there, you
can download and install any number of programs for ftp and mail
(Netscape, mutt, etc..)

-Mitch


Re: Where is "/etc/rc.d/rc.local" on Debian?

1999-03-27 Thread Christian Dysthe
Hi again,


guess what I need to know is how do you start programs at boot on a Debian
system. I have tried to put my "soundon* script from OSS in rc.boot and I
get an error message when booting saying:

"cat uses obsolete /proc/pci interface"

It must be a way to load software/scripts in a simple way when booting. Or
isn't it?

On 27-Mar-99 Marek Habersack wrote:
> On Sat, 27 Mar 1999, George Bonser wrote:
> 
>> > I am a newbie and do not undestand the init files in Debian yet. I have
>> > tried
>> > to read up on it, but I am still confused.
>> > 
>> > Can anyone help me out, please?
>> 
>> Debian uses standard System V init files. There is no such thing as rc.d
>> or rc.local in SysV, they come from BSD unix. You can fix the problem
>> partially by creating a /etc/rc.d directory and then under that symlinking
>> /etc/rc1.d to /etc/rc.d/rc1/d and so on for rc1.d through rc6.d as well as
>> init.d.  Then you might create a file called local in /etc/init.d and
>> install it with update-rc.d with a 99 so it gets run last. Then symlink
>> /etc/init.d/local to /etc/rc.d/rc.local.
> Hmm... isn't that a bit overkill? Why don't you just put stuff in
> /etc/rc.boot
> or do cd /etc;mkdir rc.d;ln -sf rc.boot rc.d/rc.local???
> 
> marek
> 
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Re: Where is "/etc/rc.d/rc.local" on Debian?

1999-03-27 Thread Miquel van Smoorenburg
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Marek Habersack  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Hmm... isn't that a bit overkill? Why don't you just put stuff in /etc/rc.boot
>or do cd /etc;mkdir rc.d;ln -sf rc.boot rc.d/rc.local???

NO

/etc/rc.boot and rc.local are totally different things.

If you do not know what you are doing DO NOT use /etc/rc.boot

Read about this in the archives. It has come up at least 60 times before.

Mike.
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what is flex ?

1999-03-27 Thread Àùåóëîâ Àëåêñåé
What is flex ?

Pathfinder


Re: Where is "/etc/rc.d/rc.local" on Debian?

1999-03-27 Thread Marek Habersack
On Sat, 27 Mar 1999, George Bonser wrote:

> On Sat, 27 Mar 1999, Marek Habersack wrote:
> 
> > On Sat, 27 Mar 1999, George Bonser wrote:
> > Hmm... isn't that a bit overkill? Why don't you just put stuff in 
> > /etc/rc.boot
> > or do cd /etc;mkdir rc.d;ln -sf rc.boot rc.d/rc.local???
> 
> 
> Not if you just want stuff designed for Red Hat to simply install. You can
> do as you say for a single package, maybe, but it is probably better to
> simulate the RH non-standard environment if you will be installing more
> than one package designed for Red Hat (the hat is red from blood caused by
> one pulling all of one's hair out trying to make sense of their goofy
> layout).
Just two questions:

1. What RH package there is which has no Debian equivalent?
2. Why should Debian be RH-compatible? If someone switches to Debian from RH
   s/he should be prepared that some (re)adaptation will be necessary.

marek

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Re: Where is "/etc/rc.d/rc.local" on Debian?

1999-03-27 Thread Marek Habersack
On 28 Mar 1999, Miquel van Smoorenburg wrote:

> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> Marek Habersack  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >Hmm... isn't that a bit overkill? Why don't you just put stuff in 
> >/etc/rc.boot
> >or do cd /etc;mkdir rc.d;ln -sf rc.boot rc.d/rc.local???
> 
> NO
> 
> /etc/rc.boot and rc.local are totally different things.
> 
> If you do not know what you are doing DO NOT use /etc/rc.boot
> 
> Read about this in the archives. It has come up at least 60 times before.
I know it is for one-time boottime initialization of some packages. But in the
absense of rc.local it can be used, as a poor-man's substitute. OTOH, the two
startup file layout standards haven't been designed to be intermixed, so I
guess that this discussion is purely theoretical and inpractical...

marek

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Re: Where is "/etc/rc.d/rc.local" on Debian?

1999-03-27 Thread Miquel van Smoorenburg
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Marek Habersack  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>1. What RH package there is which has no Debian equivalent?
>2. Why should Debian be RH-compatible? If someone switches to Debian from RH
>   s/he should be prepared that some (re)adaptation will be necessary.

The guys from the LSB (Linux Base Standard) are currently talking with
Debian and RedHat to agree on one standard /etc/init.d structure. It
will probably be abstracted and have symbolic names and dependencies.

Mike.
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