Re: Emergency use of boot-rescue disk.

[Henning Makholm]

per_adua32 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> %4. Edit the second field, which is the encrypted password, of
> %   /etc/passwd to show nothing. It would look something like this:

> % You should then be able to login as root with no password at all.

> Problem is I don't understand one logs in as root without a
> password.

Did you follow the instructions? If so, you should subsequently
be able to boot your system, type 'root' at the Login: prompt and
being thrown into a shell without ever being asked for a password.

You can then use passwd(1) to set a new password for root.

Of course this is highly insecure if the machine connects to
a network automatically as it boots, so unplug any LAN connections
you have while doing this, and preferably boot it into single
user mode until you've created a new root password.

-- 
Henning Makholm
http://www.diku.dk/students/makholm

Re: SCSI Hard Drive Questions

[Gary L. Hennigan]

Oz Dror <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
|  I have two systems one with 2940UW and seagate UW drive pentium
|  200MMX 128MB RAM 
| 
|  the second with aic7890 (which is like the 2940u2w) and a seagate u2w drive 
|  pentium-II 400Mhz 256 MB ram
| 
| 
|  the second system clearly runs faster. disc access is faster, it
|  boots faster it takes about 4 minutes to compile the kernel vs 8
|  minutes on the old system 
|
|  Disc access in the second system is 80M/sec v.s. 40M/sec.
| 
|   I am sure that the increase in performance is in part due to the
|   u2w.

I don't think that's the case (see below).

|   -Oz
| 
|   PS: the price of the new system is about $700 more than top of the line IDE
|   system.

I wouldn't consider this a fair comparison. Obviously the processor
speed being at least twice as fast on the second system heavily
weights the results. In fact, I think that's ALL you're seeing when it
comes to kernel compilation.

The important thing to remember is that there isn't a *single* disk on
the market that even comes close to saturating the 40MB/s available on
a UW bus. The only time you see the benefit of the 80MB/s available on
a U2W system is when you have multiple devices accessing the SCSI bus
simultaneously, the most prominent example being RAID devices. You MAY 
see some of that 80MB/s if the drive has a built in cache, but the
cache on most drives is so small I don't think it'd be a significant
factor. 

In addition, in order to get that 80MB/s you have to keep the bus pure
U2W, i.e., you can't connect any UW, U or SCSI(1|2) devices to the
same bus or it automatically reverts to the 40MB/s Ultrawide
mode. Today that means, pretty much, the only thing you can use your
U2W adapter for, and get the 80MB/s performance, is hard drives. Other 
than hard drives, as far as I know, there isn't a wide selection of
U2W devices available on the market. Certainly not at comparable
prices.

Of course there are other advantages to a U2W LVD system. If you keep
all LVD devices on the bus you don't have the almost ridiculous
limitations on cable lengths associated with a UW bus. Of course,
again, to see this benefit you have to keep the bus pure U2W, and keep
other devices on a different SCSI bus.

Personally, I wouldn't spend the extra $$ on a U2W controller for my
PC. For a server it might be a different story. Or if I had money to
burn! :)

And if you do decide to go with just UW, take a look at the Mylex SCSI
adapters. They're generally cheaper than Adaptec and I've seen reports
of better performance. Plus, while Adaptec just recently started
actively supporting Linux, Mylex (used to be Buslogic) has supported
Linux from the beginning, being very open with the programming specs
for their adapters. Don't get me wrong, I myself have a 2940UW, but if
I knew then what I know now I probably would've gone with
Mylex. Shoot, I think they even have a U2W adapter now so if you
decide to go that route it might be worth a look.

Good Luck,
Gary

Sound systems: OSS/ALSA/?

[Gossamer]

I've been looking at OSS, OSS/Lite and ALSA and have become
thoroughly confused.

Question One:  General knowledge question - where do these things fit
into the Linux system?  Are they patches to the kernel source, or
what?  Daemons?  Has Debian packaged them and if so where?


I have an SB16 sound card, and it's currently working OK - I compiled
kernel support in and so on.

But I want to see if I can get it to take two input channels and
give one priority over another.  ie like this:

Input one - generic mp3s being played.
Inpet two - festival.

IF input 2 is active, then input one can either be paused, muted or
stopped or something until it's finished. 

Am I making sense?  If so, are these sound thingies something relavent,
or not?  Would they help?


bekj

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weird vi exit behavior

[Ossama Othman]

Hi,

For some months now I've been experiencing a weird problem with vi upon
exit.  After exiting vi, the shell prompt isn't where I left it prior to
starting vi.  It ends up a few lines above where it was prior to starting
vi.

Does anyone else have this problem?  Any solutions or suggestions?

I am using the unstable distribution.

Thanks,
-Ossama
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DEC 21143 Chipset

[Kevin Traas]

Can anyone tell me whether the 'tulip' driver supports the 21143 chipset?

My card supplier (Kingston) has just switched from the 21140 to the 21143
and I've no idea what "problems" this might cause - if any.

Regards,
Kevin Traas



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g++ -- installation difficulties

[Jonathan Hayward]

(Regarding the last message, I traced it to a bad symlink.)

I have had some difficulties with g++.  When I run it, I get the
following error message:

/usr/lib/crt1.o(.text+0x36): undefined reference to `main'
collect2: ld returned 1 exit status

Anybody have an idea what is misconfigured?

Thank you; I look forward to your replies.


-Jonathan

Re: doom (sorry)

[Frankie]

Daniel Martin wrote:
> 
> Frankie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> 
> > I have just d/l doom shareware version, unfortunately, it wants
> > libXt.so.3 for the X version, and the svga version wants libc.so.4.
> >
> > What packages are these in?
> > I had a look in oldlibs, but I'm not entirely sure what I should look
> > for, so O didn't find anything.
> 
> You want the xlib-compat package.  I believe that this package has
> finally disappeared from Debian 2.1, though, so you'll need a 2.0
> (hamm) archive or CD.

I have the cheapbytes 2.0 CD, and that doesn't seem to have an
xlib-compat package on it. :-(

Any ideas where else I might look?
(debian.org draws a blank as well)

Frankie



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Re: SCSI Hard Drive Questions

[Robert Wilderspin]

On 18 Jan 99 23:15:15 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Oz Dror) wrote:

> I have two systems one with 2940UW and seagate UW drive pentium 200MMX 128MB 
> RAM
>
> the second with aic7890 (which is like the 2940u2w) and a seagate u2w drive 
> pentium-II 400Mhz 256 MB ram
>
>
> the second system clearly runs faster. disc access is faster, it boots faster
> it takes about 4 minutes to compile the kernel vs 8 minutes on the old system
>
> Disc access in the second system is 80M/sec v.s. 40M/sec.
>
>  I am sure that the increase in performance is in part due to the u2w.

Going from an 8 minute kernel compile to 4 minutes, considering the
difference in CPU speed on the two systems, is exactly what one would
expect anyway, so one can't help but feel that u2w hasn't done much
for you at all.

It's pointless spending much extra money for SCSI, let alone Ultra2
Wide SCSI, on a single-user desktop machine.  SCSI becomes very useful
when you've got more than half-a-dozen users or a busy website running
on the machine, but emacs and The Gimp aren't going to get any faster.


Rob Wildersipn
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reboots are the only chance I get to sleep..."
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Re: Emergency use of boot-rescue disk.

[Andrew Ivanov]

Ok, you can do the following:
1. boot the computer. When it asks you for 
boot: 
type in 
linux init=/bin/sh
That will drop you into shell without asking for any passwords.
Then umount /  (reason for this is / is only mounted as read )
And remount the / partition as read-write.
then edit the passowrd file to blank out the second field in the root line
(field being anything between : )
THen save the file and 
sync

The just login as root, and it should let you in without problem, then
just reset the password.

There may be 2 password files, /etc/passwd and /etc/shadow
Make sure if that happens, that you change both.

HTH,
 Andrew




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PPP Dialup problem.

[Mike Garfias]

Hello, 

I've got a slight problem making win95 dialup to my Debian2.0 server properly.
I get no errors ineither syslog, or ppp.log.  The windows machine dials up, 
then times out after several minutes, telling me to check the password.  I've
followed the directions I've found in /usr/doc/ppp/win95.ppp and everything 
should be working correctly.

Mgetty is kicking off the ppp program automatically as it is supposed to, and I
can dial in just fine for a normal terminal connection.

Any help you can give would be greatly appreciated.

Mike

Re: DEC 21143 Chipset

[Zlatko Calusic]

"Kevin Traas" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Can anyone tell me whether the 'tulip' driver supports the 21143 chipset?
> 
> My card supplier (Kingston) has just switched from the 21140 to the 21143
> and I've no idea what "problems" this might cause - if any.
> 

I don't know about tulip, but de4x5 works very well with my 21143. YMMV.

Regards,
-- 
Zlatko

Re: doom (sorry)

[Daniel Martin]

Frankie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Daniel Martin wrote:
> > 
> > Frankie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > 
> > > I have just d/l doom shareware version, unfortunately, it wants
> > > libXt.so.3 for the X version, and the svga version wants libc.so.4.
> > >
> > > What packages are these in?
> > > I had a look in oldlibs, but I'm not entirely sure what I should look
> > > for, so O didn't find anything.
> > 
> > You want the xlib-compat package.  I believe that this package has
> > finally disappeared from Debian 2.1, though, so you'll need a 2.0
> > (hamm) archive or CD.
> 
> I have the cheapbytes 2.0 CD, and that doesn't seem to have an
> xlib-compat package on it. :-(
> 
> Any ideas where else I might look?

Sorry; It's called xcompat, but you're right - I can't find it in 2.0
at all.  You may have to go back to 1.3.1 to find it.  Assuming you
can't find someone with a 1.3.1 CD, you can get the xcompat and libc4
packages (which I just pulled off my bo CD) from:
http://jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu/~dtm12/

md5sums:

c3c4652f43e110de58fe4cec2a22771d  xcompat_3.1.2-4.deb
e161434c2d952ffce8c286d9343ff45a  libc4_4.6.27-15.deb

Unfortunately, I can't include the sources to these packages, as I
happen to have... misplaced my bo source CD.

Why, you may ask, were these packages dropped from Debian?  Well,
basically, because a.out is such an ancient binary format that it
should really be forgotten, and all of the support tools necessary to
make it work make continuing support of a.out format a somewhat
onerous burden.

Besides, these packages can't be built with the current Debian tools,
so it would take some amount of work to bring them up to the state
where they could be included again - it's not merely a matter of
taking on a whole load of rarely-used packages.

That said, I've been wondering why one of those emulators we've got
floating around couldn't be made to run libc4 a.out format...


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Help! X screw up

[KTB]

I haven't been in windows for a while and under the circumstances, wish
I wasn't.  I was trying to make my virtual screen larger and was messing
around with FX86Config files.  One was in /etc and the other I can't
remember /lib or something.  Anyway I couldn't get anything to change so
I started putting "#"s over the lines dealing with the virtual display
and changed some of the larger sizes.  My system is set up so that I
automatically go to X to sign in.  When I boot Linux everything goes as
normal until I reach the point where X tries to load.  Then the text on
the screen starts to blink. Is there anyway I can abort X and just get a
regular console or am I hosed and have to reinstall?
Thanks,
Kent

Re: g++ -- installation difficulties

[Henning Makholm]

Jonathan Hayward <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> I have had some difficulties with g++.  When I run it, I get the
> following error message:
> 
> /usr/lib/crt1.o(.text+0x36): undefined reference to `main'
> collect2: ld returned 1 exit status

Are you sure you have a main() function in the program you're trying
to compile?

If so, see if you can reproduce your error with a small hello-worldish
example and post your example code along with the exact command line
you use to invoke g++

-- 
Henning Makholm
http://www.diku.dk/students/makholm

Re: Problem booting for install

[Matthias Schulz]

Eric Jensen schrieb:
> 
> Ok, actually a friend of mine is having this problem.  When he boots
> to
> the rescue disk, or uses the install batchfile with loadlin, he gets
> the
> LILO prompt, hits enter, sees a few lines of kernel messages and then
> his
> machine just reboots.
> 
> He has an AMD K6 with an Award BIOS, a Western Digital 8 Gig as his
> primary master, a Maxtor 2 Gig as his primary slave, and a 24x CDROM
> as
> his secondary master.
> 
> Any ideas?

I had to turn off the CACHE in the BIOS-Setup on my Toshiba
SatelittePro440CDX.

After i compiled a new kernel zImage i could it turn on again with no
problems.

Matthias

Re: Help! X screw up

[Andrew Ivanov]

Well, first of, you shoudl only play around with /etc/X11/XF86Config file

Then...to get rid of xdm at startup what you need to do is
boot into the shell
and edit /etc/X11/config file to comment out the 
xdm-start 
line, and uncomment lines that say no-xdm-start or something.

If you have no means to boot into the system, check out the previous
message on how to get in there...it was sent less than 30 minutes ago.

Commenting out xdm should stop the loading at boot.

HTH, 
 Andrew


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Re: Help! X screw up

[KTB]

Andrew Ivanov wrote:

> Well, first of, you shoudl only play around with /etc/X11/XF86Config file
>
> Then...to get rid of xdm at startup what you need to do is
> boot into the shell
> and edit /etc/X11/config file to comment out the
> xdm-start
> line, and uncomment lines that say no-xdm-start or something.
>
> If you have no means to boot into the system, check out the previous
> message on how to get in there...it was sent less than 30 minutes ago.
>
> Commenting out xdm should stop the loading at boot.
>
> HTH,
>  Andrew

I followed the directions typing in "linux init=/bin/sh" and reached a
prompt:

VFS: Mounted root (ext2 filesystem) read only.
sh: /usr/bin/check -sendfile: No such file or directory
/#

When I try to edit the file with joe I get the following error:
sh: joe: command not found

I tried unmount and got the same error.

I can switch directories but that didn't change anything.
How can I get my commands back?
Thanks,
Kent

Re: doom (sorry)

[Joey Hess]

This is all unneccesary. The doom source code has been released, doom would
be in debian but for a minor licence problem. Get libc6 .debs of it at
http://kitenet.net/programs/debs.cgi#doom

Daniel Martin wrote:
> Frankie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> 
> > Daniel Martin wrote:
> > > 
> > > Frankie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > > 
> > > > I have just d/l doom shareware version, unfortunately, it wants
> > > > libXt.so.3 for the X version, and the svga version wants libc.so.4.
> > > >
> > > > What packages are these in?
> > > > I had a look in oldlibs, but I'm not entirely sure what I should look
> > > > for, so O didn't find anything.
> > > 
> > > You want the xlib-compat package.  I believe that this package has
> > > finally disappeared from Debian 2.1, though, so you'll need a 2.0
> > > (hamm) archive or CD.
> > 
> > I have the cheapbytes 2.0 CD, and that doesn't seem to have an
> > xlib-compat package on it. :-(
> > 
> > Any ideas where else I might look?
> 
> Sorry; It's called xcompat, but you're right - I can't find it in 2.0
> at all.  You may have to go back to 1.3.1 to find it.  Assuming you
> can't find someone with a 1.3.1 CD, you can get the xcompat and libc4
> packages (which I just pulled off my bo CD) from:
> http://jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu/~dtm12/
> 
> md5sums:
> 
> c3c4652f43e110de58fe4cec2a22771d  xcompat_3.1.2-4.deb
> e161434c2d952ffce8c286d9343ff45a  libc4_4.6.27-15.deb
> 
> Unfortunately, I can't include the sources to these packages, as I
> happen to have... misplaced my bo source CD.
> 
> Why, you may ask, were these packages dropped from Debian?  Well,
> basically, because a.out is such an ancient binary format that it
> should really be forgotten, and all of the support tools necessary to
> make it work make continuing support of a.out format a somewhat
> onerous burden.
> 
> Besides, these packages can't be built with the current Debian tools,
> so it would take some amount of work to bring them up to the state
> where they could be included again - it's not merely a matter of
> taking on a whole load of rarely-used packages.
> 
> That said, I've been wondering why one of those emulators we've got
> floating around couldn't be made to run libc4 a.out format...



-- 
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Re: Help! X screw up

[KTB]

KTB wrote:

> Andrew Ivanov wrote:
>
> > Well, first of, you shoudl only play around with /etc/X11/XF86Config file
> >
> > Then...to get rid of xdm at startup what you need to do is
> > boot into the shell
> > and edit /etc/X11/config file to comment out the
> > xdm-start
> > line, and uncomment lines that say no-xdm-start or something.
> >
> > If you have no means to boot into the system, check out the previous
> > message on how to get in there...it was sent less than 30 minutes ago.
> >
> > Commenting out xdm should stop the loading at boot.
> >
> > HTH,
> >  Andrew
>
> I followed the directions typing in "linux init=/bin/sh" and reached a
> prompt:
>
> VFS: Mounted root (ext2 filesystem) read only.
> sh: /usr/bin/check -sendfile: No such file or directory
> /#
>
> When I try to edit the file with joe I get the following error:
> sh: joe: command not found
>
> I tried unmount and got the same error.
>
> I can switch directories but that didn't change anything.
> How can I get my commands back?
> Thanks,
> Kent
>
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OK I was just typing unmount instead of umount and got unmounted but now can't 
get
mounted.  I tried   mount ext2 -rw  and got the following error:
mount: Can't find ext2 in the /etc/mtab or /etc/fstab

How do I mount this properly?
Thanks,
Kent

Re: Help! X screw up

[Rafael Kitover]

On Mon, Jan 18, 1999 at 07:55:05PM -0600, KTB wrote:
> I haven't been in windows for a while and under the circumstances, wish
> I wasn't.  I was trying to make my virtual screen larger and was messing
> around with FX86Config files.  One was in /etc and the other I can't
> remember /lib or something.  Anyway I couldn't get anything to change so
> I started putting "#"s over the lines dealing with the virtual display
> and changed some of the larger sizes.  My system is set up so that I
> automatically go to X to sign in.  When I boot Linux everything goes as
> normal until I reach the point where X tries to load.  Then the text on
> the screen starts to blink. Is there anyway I can abort X and just get a
> regular console or am I hosed and have to reinstall?
> Thanks,
> Kent

If/when X freezes, try ctrl+alt+backspace, and ctrl+alt+f2 to switch to
another VC. If none of that works, you can always boot with your install
disks, select the "mount primary partition" option and
chmod -x /target/etc/init.d/xdm or whatever.

-- 
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Re: Help! X screw up

[Andrew Ivanov]

Try just
mount /dev/hdX / -rw 
Where /dev/hdX is your root partition.
Andrew 



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Re: dualboot linux and NT?

[Rafael Kitover]

On Mon, Jan 18, 1999 at 05:38:06PM +, Daryl Williams wrote:
> folks,
> 
> i have a system running linux debian hamm with kernel 2.0.34.
> this system has 2 IDE drives. linux is installed on the 1st disk
> and boot using lilo. i have windows NT on the second disk which
> is set as a slave IDE disk. when i try to boot windows NT from
> lilo i get the an error message from the system that says is cant
> find NTLDR. i am assuming this error message is comming from
> the NT boot loader.
> 
> i have read the howtos on dual booting but none of them address
> this kind of setup with 2 disks. it looks like i might have to edit the
> boot.ini file on NT, but that could result in an unbootable system
> so i am trying to get some feedback before proceeding that down
> road.

Do you have any space on the master disk to make a tiny FAT partition? If
so, just put some sort of dos on it and look at the Linux+NT+win95 howto
(or something like that), set boot=/win95/bootsect.lnx in /etc/lilo.conf
(as someone who's name I forgot on the list previously mentioned, neat trick).

If you don't have any space but a swap partition, you might just convert
the swap partition and setup a swap file instead.

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Re: Setting up diald.

[Rafael Kitover]

On Sun, Jan 17, 1999 at 10:22:22PM -0500, Chris Hoover wrote:
> I'm having to reset up my system after a hard drive crash, and am having
> a hard time getting diald setup.  I've tried to set it up using the
> provides scripts and examples, but they don't seem to be working.  I
> remember when I first set it up, I was directed to a good page on the
> web where someone detailed how they set it up.  Does anyone know where
> that page or one like it might be?

Well, I just used the faq in /usr/doc, and trial and error... something as
simple as having an option that says "Would you like to use diald?" in
pppconfig would have been nice, of course, but anyway :) I've attached my
/etc/diald/diald.options in the hope that they may be helpful (your setup
may vary, and of course it needs to be edited).

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fifo /var/run/diald.fifo
accounting-log /var/log/diald.log
mode ppp
connect "/usr/sbin/chat -v -f /etc/chatscripts/provider"
device /dev/ttyS2
speed 57600
modem
lock
crtscts
mtu 1006
mru 1006
window 4024
local 192.168.0.1
remote 192.168.0.2
two-way
dynamic
reroute
defaultroute
proxyarp
pppd-options noauth asyncmap 0 lcp-echo-interval 30 lcp-echo-failure 4 noipx
connect-timeout 90
dial-fail-limit 2
died-retry-count 0
include /etc/diald/standard.filter


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Re: SCSI Hard Drive Questions

[kaynjay]

In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, on 01/19/99 
   at 12:55 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Robert Wilderspin) said:
[...]
>It's pointless spending much extra money for SCSI, let alone Ultra2 Wide
>SCSI, on a single-user desktop machine.  SCSI becomes very useful when
>you've got more than half-a-dozen users or a busy website running on the
>machine  [...]

Or if one's work involves very heavy I/O (several Gb's/file) on top of
heavy, constant fp calculations ...  :)

Kenward
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emergency disk/mounting files

[KTB]

I need to change an X config file I screwed up so I can get into Linux.
I'm using my boot disk to get to root, so I can bypass X, so I can edit
the file.  This is the message and prompt I get when booting from the
floppy:

VFS: Mounted root (ext2 filesystem) read only.
sh: /usr/bin/check -sendfile: No such file or directory
/#

I then use the command umount like so:
/# umount /

I then tried mounting like so:
/# mount /dev/hdb2 / -rw

 and got this:
mount: you must specify the filesystem type

So I tried:
/# mount  ext2 /dev/hdb2 / -rw

and got:
Usage: mount [-hv]
mount -a ...and so on.

I also tried:
/# mount -rw /dev/hdb2 /
and got the same readout as the example before:
Usage..

I am trying to use joe to edit  /etc/X11/XF86Config  so I can return my
system to normal.  I am very new to Linux so feel free to spell it out
for the dummy.
Thanks,
Kent

Re: local web proxies

[Jiri Baum]

Hello,

> For example, I like to do a crossword on the web.  Can I automatically
> download the grid and the clues from  the web-page when I first logon (in
> the background), and also get the answers from the previous one, and then
> use the localhost server to allow filling in, without re-attatching to
> the remote server.

wwwoffle should be able to do that for you.


Jiri

Re: How to mail a file?

[Jiri Baum]

Hello,

Horacio:
> - How would I gzip and/or tar the file?

Yes.

If you use tar, you can use the `z' option instead of separate compression
(but note that some other versions of tar don't have that).

> Would this process take place before encoding?

Yes.

> - And digital signing and/or encrypting?

pgp - note that pgp will take care of compression and encoding

> (the above two questions refer to "doing it all in one go", ie. just one line
> of commands)

tar cf - file1 file2 | pgp -feas key-id | mail -s subject recipient

> - should graphics files be treated as binaries, as far as
> uuencoding/mimencoding is concerned?

Yes, but if you are encrypting, you don't need to worry about that.


HTH

Jiri <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Re: RH vs Debian (Switch to Red Hat ?)

[Jiri Baum]

Hello,

> There is the difficulty that Debian is an organization that is based on
> volunteers, where RH is a registered company. So managements tend to see
> RH as much more solid and stable organization then Debian. And that
> imply, when extending this managements point of view, that RH products
> are better then Debian.

By the same reasoning, of course, MS products are better than RH.

After all, Debian has a long list of bugs on its homepage, while MS has no
bugs at all. (What was that quote from Gates again? No essential bugs?)

Jiri

diald help!

[tony mollica]

Hi.  I have a working diald setup on a Debian2.0
box but there are a couple of messages in the log
that I can't seem to find a solution to.  The items
are logged when the link comes down.  These are
the lines with my comments added:

: Closing down idle link;no problem here
: Terminating on signal 2   ;can't find a reference
;for this.
: Connection terminated ;no problem here either
: Failed;what failed?
: disconnect script failed  ;can't seem to get any 
;disconnect script to work.
;Any suggestions?
: Exit. ;OK.
: Delaying 10 seconds before clear to dial.
 
   I changed a parameter to make it 10 seconds between
   redials, but why does diald end it's session with 
   this line, which makes you wait 10 seconds before 
   dialing a new connection?

Diald has been working for about two weeks with no
problems, but these messages seem to indicate that
something is not right.  

Any suggestions?

thanks, 
-- 

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Re: RH vs Debian (Switch to Red Hat ?)

[Steve Lamb]

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On Tue, 19 Jan 1999 16:35:39 +1100 (EST), Jiri Baum wrote:

>After all, Debian has a long list of bugs on its homepage, while MS has no
>bugs at all. (What was that quote from Gates again? No essential bugs?)

"That vulnerability is completely theoretical."
  -- Microsoft
 
L0pht, Making the theoretical practical since 1992. 

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Re: PGP public keysevers?

[Mark Brown]

On Mon, Jan 18, 1999 at 05:33:50PM +, M.C. Vernon wrote:

>   Anyone know of any of these that work - the first few from the pgp
> documentation (dated 1995) all seem dead (unroutable mail domain, failed
> nslookup etc.)...

I've never had any problems with horowitz.surfnet.nl.

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ATAPI CDROM problem (NEC-260)

[Terry Hancock]

Hi everyone,

I'm really green, so pardon me if this is in a FAQ, but I did search
the archives for this problem to no avail.

I have an NEC IDE/ATAPI CD-ROM.  It says "CDR-250" on the case, and
the BIOS reports "NEC ATAPI CDROM: 260" (or something similar to
that). I'm having trouble getting it to be recognized by Debian 
Linux ("Hamm" release, version 2.0.2 on CD from Linux Systems Labs).

Using a DOS boot floppy with the NEC driver and MSCDEX, I am able to
read the CD, which convinces me that it is not a drive or cable
problem.  It is jumpered as a "slave" on the primary IDE controller
(on the motherboard).

Examining the dmesg output I found the following, which would seem
to be the problem:

ide: i82371 PIIX (Triton) on PCI bus 0 function 57
ide0: BM-DMA at 0xf000-0xf007
ide1: BM-DMA at 0xf008-0xf00f
hda: SAMSUNG VG38404A (8.40GB), 8056MB w/490kB Cache, CHS=1027/255/63
hdb: NEC CD-ROM DRIVE:260, ATAPI cdrom or floppy?, assuming FLOPPY drive
ide-floppy: Packet size is not 12 bytes long
ide-floppy: hdb: not supported by this version of ide-floppy
ide0 at 0x1f0-0x1f7,0x3f6 on irq 14
Floppy drive(s): fd0 is 1.44M
FDC 0 is a post-1991 82077

[complete dmesg output after message]

Apparently the OS is making an incorrect assumption
about the identity of the device and then failing
because of it.  (Ever heard of an IDE floppy?  I've
certainly never seen one).  Anyway, after booting,
there is no /dev/hdb device to mount.

I don't know what I can do about this. Surely there's 
some way to "nudge" Debian in the right direction?

(I have installed the basic part of the OS from floppy
disks, so it is possible to tinker with the configuration
files).

-

As an alternative, I have a Creative Labs "Infra-1800" CD-ROM
which is a 12X with a gimmicky infra-red remote.  I figured it
would be better to leave that on the Windows machine.  It's also
an "ATAPI IDE CD-ROM."  I would expect it to have the same problem,
but I'll probably try it if all else fails.

--

Many thanks!

Terry Hancock


** Complete DMESG Listing Follows **

Console: 16 point font, 400 scans
Console: colour VGA+ 80x25, 1 virtual console (max 63)
pcibios_init : BIOS32 Service Directory structure at 0x000fabc0
pcibios_init : BIOS32 Service Directory entry at 0xfb040
pcibios_init : PCI BIOS revision 2.10 entry at 0xfb070
Probing PCI hardware.
Calibrating delay loop.. ok - 80.08 BogoMIPS
Memory: 6020k/8192k available (1124k kernel code, 384k reserved, 664k
data)
This processor honours the WP bit even when in supervisor mode. Good.
Swansea University Computer Society NET3.035 for Linux 2.0
NET3: Unix domain sockets 0.13 for Linux NET3.035.
Swansea University Computer Society TCP/IP for NET3.034
IP Protocols: IGMP, ICMP, UDP, TCP
VFS: Diskquotas version dquot_5.6.0 initialized

Checking 386/387 coupling... Ok, fpu using exception 16 error reporting.
Checking 'hlt' instruction... Ok.
Linux version 2.0.34 ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) (gcc version 2.7.2.3) #2 Thu Jul 9
10:57:48 EST 1998
Starting kswapd v 1.4.2.2 
Real Time Clock Driver v1.09
tpqic02: Runtime config, $Revision: 0.4.1.5 $, $Date: 1994/10/29
02:46:13 $
tpqic02: DMA buffers: 20 blocks, at address 0x277800 (0x2777d8)
Ramdisk driver initialized : 16 ramdisks of 4096K size
loop: registered device at major 7
ide: i82371 PIIX (Triton) on PCI bus 0 function 57
ide0: BM-DMA at 0xf000-0xf007
ide1: BM-DMA at 0xf008-0xf00f
hda: SAMSUNG VG38404A (8.40GB), 8056MB w/490kB Cache, CHS=1027/255/63
hdb: NEC CD-ROM DRIVE:260, ATAPI cdrom or floppy?, assuming FLOPPY drive
ide-floppy: Packet size is not 12 bytes long
ide-floppy: hdb: not supported by this version of ide-floppy
ide0 at 0x1f0-0x1f7,0x3f6 on irq 14
Floppy drive(s): fd0 is 1.44M
FDC 0 is a post-1991 82077
md driver 0.35 MAX_MD_DEV=4, MAX_REAL=8
Failed initialization of WD-7000 SCSI card!
ppa: Version 1.42
ppa: Probing port 03bc
ppa: Probing port 0378
ppa: SPP port present
ppa: PS/2 bidirectional port present
ppa: Probing port 0278
scsi : 0 hosts.
scsi : detected total.
Partition check:
 hda: hda1 hda2 < hda5 hda6 hda7 hda8 hda9 hda10 >
VFS: Mounted root (ext2 filesystem) readonly.
Adding Swap: 130748k swap-space (priority -1)
Module inserted $Id: cdrom.c,v 0.8 1996/08/10 10:52:11 david Exp $
Serial driver version 4.13 with no serial options enabled
tty00 at 0x03f8 (irq = 4) is a 16550A
tty01 at 0x02f8 (irq = 3) is a 16550A
tty03 at 0x02e8 (irq = 3) is a 16550A
lp1 at 0x0378, (polling)
VFS: Disk change detected on device 02:00

RXVT does not refresh text when scrolled

[Deepak Nulu]

Hi,

I have Debian 2.0 installed on my intel PC.

I played around in dselect intially and unselected
some packages and selected some others. Luckily
everything worked. Well, almost. I have one very irritating problem.
rxvt, xterm etc. do not refresh the text when I scroll.

Currently I do not have xterm installed. I have rxvt version 2.4.5-14
installed. When I scroll, text belonging to the new screen overwrites
the text belonging to the old screen and as a result everything is a
mess. I have to click the refresh menu option in the screen menu. BTW,
I am using wmaker-0.20.3-1.

I am not sure what else I should include in this email to help figure
out what the problem might be. Any pointers/help would be greatly
appreciated.

Thanks a lot.

deepak nulu

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Re: oddlu corrupted file during slink upgrade

[Jason Wright]

On Sun, Jan 17, 1999 at 11:39:39PM -0500, Brandon Mitchell spewed forth:

> > gusgus:~ # ls -l /usr/man/man2/iopl.2.gz
> > prw--ws---   1 505  38296   0 Jan  2  1970 
> > /usr/man/man2/iopl.2.gz
> > 
> > And I can't delete it
> 
> This looks familiar.  I'd suggest:
> 1) e2fsck -cf /dev/hd?

Haven't run 'fsck -cf', but badblocks does run clean on the partition,
as does 'fsck -f'.

> 2) try to move the file

gusgus:/usr/man/man2 # mv iopl.2.gz /tmp
mv: cannot move `iopl.2.gz' to `/tmp/iopl.2.gz': Operation not permitted

> 3) make a ramdisk, move the file to the ramdisk, reboot (I get a sneaky
>and devilish feeling doing that)

gusgus:/usr/man/man2 # df /mnt
Filesystem 1024-blocks  Used Available Capacity Mounted on
/dev/ram0   3963  13 3746  0%   /mnt
gusgus:/usr/man/man2 # mv iopl.2.gz /mnt
mv: cannot move `iopl.2.gz' across filesystems: Not a regular file

> 4) probably the one you will hear the most: debugfs

This, however, worked.

Thanks!

PeeWee

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Re: Quake2 & nVidia TNT

[Daniel Elenius]

>
>They recently helped a Xfree driver come into existance, so the tide is 
>turning.
>

Yes, but as we all know, it's not really open source, since the code
is 'processed' to be unreadable. The TNT driver won't stay in future
versions of Xfree unless they release real open source code.

Automatic ftping in a script - how?

[Mark Phillips]

Hi,

I want to write a script in which some files are automatically ftped to
another machine (a username and password needs to be entered).  Is there
a nice utility which will enable me to do this?

Thanks,

Mark.



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apt-get to upgrade from hamm to slink.

[Mark Phillips]

Hi,

I've just installed the slink version of apt-get.  Am I right in
thinking that to upgrade to slink, I should run:

apt-get update
apt-get dist-upgrade

Is this at all dangerous?

What happens if my ppp link dies in the middle?

Thanks,

Mark.


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Druckerinstallation

[Christoph Beck]

Hallo Leute,

Als blutiger Anfänger mit Linux, stellt sich mir schon die Frage, welchen
Drucker ich mit Linux ansteuern kann. Uhrsprünglich wollte ich mir den
EPSON STYLUS COLOR 740 kaufen, aber nachdem ich erfahren habe, daß dieser
Drucker die Sprache PCL nicht beherrscht, sondern nur eine von EPSON
speziell für diese Drucker entwickelte Sprache, war ich mir nicht mehr
sicher, ob dieser Drucker unter LINUX läuft. Vielleicht kann mir jemand
diese Frage beantworten, oder mir einen anderen Drucker empfehelen, der on
Probleme von Linux angesteuert werden kann.


Vielen dank, und bis bald


Christoph
Dipl.-Ing. Christoph Beck
Universitaet Karlsruhe
Institut fuer Maschinenwesen im Baubetrieb
Am Fasanengarten
76128 Karlsruhe

Tel: 0721 / 608 4121
Fax: 0721 / 695 245 

Re: diald help!

[Rafael Kitover]

On Tue, Jan 19, 1999 at 06:52:37AM +, tony mollica wrote:
> Hi.  I have a working diald setup on a Debian2.0
> box but there are a couple of messages in the log
> that I can't seem to find a solution to.  The items
> are logged when the link comes down.  These are
> the lines with my comments added:
> 
> : Closing down idle link;no problem here
> : Terminating on signal 2   ;can't find a reference
> ;for this.

This is fine, it means that diald considers your link to be idle
(according to /etc/diald/standard.filter) and wants to close it, so sends a
SIGINT to pppd, the second line is from that.

> : Connection terminated ;no problem here either
> : Failed;what failed?
> : disconnect script failed  ;can't seem to get any 
> ;disconnect script to work.
> ;Any suggestions?

You don't need a disconnect script since your modem most likely support
hardware resets. If it does not, just make a script that looks like this:

--
#!/bin/sh
echo "+++" > /dev/modem
echo "ath" > /dev/modem
echo "atz" > /dev/modem
--

only if simply not having a disconnect line in diald.options does not
work.

> : Exit. ;OK.
> : Delaying 10 seconds before clear to dial.
>  
>I changed a parameter to make it 10 seconds between
>redials, but why does diald end it's session with 
>this line, which makes you wait 10 seconds before 
>dialing a new connection?

Not sure, maybe because it thinks disconnect failed?

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Re: Automatic ftping in a script - how?

[Rafael Kitover]

On Tue, Jan 19, 1999 at 05:44:15PM +1030, Mark Phillips wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> I want to write a script in which some files are automatically ftped to
> another machine (a username and password needs to be entered).  Is there
> a nice utility which will enable me to do this?

check out the ncftpput utility

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Re: Automatic ftping in a script - how?

[Tino Schwarze]

Hi there,
> > I want to write a script in which some files are automatically ftped to
> > another machine (a username and password needs to be entered).  Is there
> > a nice utility which will enable me to do this?
> 
> check out the ncftpput utility
No need for any utility apart from plain ftp:

#!/bin/bash
#
ftp <

Re: apt-get to upgrade from hamm to slink.

[Rafael Kitover]

On Tue, Jan 19, 1999 at 05:47:49PM +1030, Mark Phillips wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> I've just installed the slink version of apt-get.  Am I right in
> thinking that to upgrade to slink, I should run:
> 
> apt-get update
> apt-get dist-upgrade

Make sure your /etc/apt/sources.list is set to get files from "slink" or
"frozen" to do this.

> 
> Is this at all dangerous?

By definition, installing unreleased software is dangerous. But alot less
dangerous than "potato" (unstable) :)

> 
> What happens if my ppp link dies in the middle?

apt handles these things very gracefully, and will pick up where it left
off last time.

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Re: emergency disk/mounting files

[Rafael Kitover]

On Tue, Jan 19, 1999 at 12:12:16AM -0600, KTB wrote:
> I need to change an X config file I screwed up so I can get into Linux.
> I'm using my boot disk to get to root, so I can bypass X, so I can edit
> the file.  This is the message and prompt I get when booting from the
> floppy:
> 
> VFS: Mounted root (ext2 filesystem) read only.
> sh: /usr/bin/check -sendfile: No such file or directory
> /#
> 
> I then use the command umount like so:
> /# umount /
> 
> I then tried mounting like so:
> /# mount /dev/hdb2 / -rw
> 
>  and got this:
> mount: you must specify the filesystem type
> 
> So I tried:
> /# mount  ext2 /dev/hdb2 / -rw

try:

mount -t ext2 /dev/hdb2 / -o rw

if that doesn't work, maybe:

mount -n -t ext2 /dev/hdb2 / -o rw

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compiling mc: glib.h sought for at the wrong place

[Marc Haber]

Hi!

Hi!

I am trying to compile mc-4.5.7 on Debian/Hamm 2.0. This is my first
try in building a recent mc.

|Configuration:
|
|  Source code location:   .
|  Compiler:   gcc
|  Compiler flags: -g
|  File system:Midnight Commander Virtual File System
|  tarfs, mcfs, ftpfs, fish
|  Text mode screen manager:   SLang with terminfo
|  Install console saver:  yes
|  Text mode mouse library:xterm only
|  Debugger code:  none
|  With subshell support:  yes
|  X11 versions:
|  Internal editor:yes
|  Install path: /usr/local/stow/mc-4.5.7/bin, 
/usr/local/stow/mc-4.5.7/lib/mc

make fails:
|gcc -c -I..  -I/mnt/maindisk/home/mh/mc-4.5.7/intl -I./..  -I./../vfs 
-I./../sla
|ng -I.. -DBINDIR=\""/usr/local/stow/mc-4.5.7/bin/"\" 
-DLIBDIR=\""/usr/local/stow
|/mc-4.5.7/lib/mc/"\" -DICONDIR=\""/usr/local/stow/mc-4.5.7/share/pixmaps/mc/"\"
| -DLOCALEDIR=\""/usr/local/stow/mc-4.5.7/share/locale/"\"  -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -g  
v
|fs.c
|In file included from vfs.c:30:
|/usr/include/glib.h:22: glibconfig.h: No such file or directory
|make[1]: *** [vfs.o] Error 1
|make[1]: Leaving directory `/mnt/maindisk/home/mh/mc-4.5.7/vfs'
|make: *** [all] Error 1
|[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/home/mh/mc-4.5.7 >

glib is present in /usr/lib/glib/include/glibconfig.h and has been
placed there by the Debian setup. I believe that configure doesn't
properly catch this.

I don't have a clue about the conventions where to place include files
and would suggest changing configure/Makefile to include
/usr/lib/glib/include into the include directories.

Is that an mc or a Debian problem?

Any idea how to get on the mc mailing list? Their search feature is
"currently down" and they don't have a subscribe address on the web
site. Mail send to mc-bugs last week has gone unanswered yet.

Greetings
Marc
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Re: Automatic ftping in a script - how?

[Shao Zhang]

HI,

man ftp! you will need to write a file called .netrc in your home
directory.

On Tue, 19 Jan 1999, Mark Phillips wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> I want to write a script in which some files are automatically ftped to
> another machine (a username and password needs to be entered).  Is there
> a nice utility which will enable me to do this?
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Mark.
> 
> 
> 
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RE: apt-get to upgrade from hamm to slink.

[Mark Herrick]

Does anyone know roughly what size an upgrade from hamm to slink is?

> --
> From: Rafael Kitover[SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Tuesday, January 19, 1999 8:53 AM
> To:   debian-user@lists.debian.org
> Subject:  Re: apt-get to upgrade from hamm to slink.
> 
> On Tue, Jan 19, 1999 at 05:47:49PM +1030, Mark Phillips wrote:
> > 
> > Hi,
> > 
> > I've just installed the slink version of apt-get.  Am I right in
> > thinking that to upgrade to slink, I should run:
> > 
> > apt-get update
> > apt-get dist-upgrade
> 
> Make sure your /etc/apt/sources.list is set to get files from "slink" or
> "frozen" to do this.
> 
> > 
> > Is this at all dangerous?
> 
> By definition, installing unreleased software is dangerous. But alot less
> dangerous than "potato" (unstable) :)
> 
> > 
> > What happens if my ppp link dies in the middle?
> 
> apt handles these things very gracefully, and will pick up where it left
> off last time.
> 
> -- 
> Rafael Kitover
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 

Mutt and Mailboxes

[Stephen M Lavelle]

I am using Mutt to read my email fetched from my ISP
I understand how to move a message to another mailbox by pressing
 

Re: Quake2 & nVidia TNT

[Branden Robinson]

On Mon, Jan 18, 1999 at 11:30:37PM +0100, Daniel Elenius wrote:
> >
> >They recently helped a Xfree driver come into existance, so the tide is 
> >turning.
> >
> 
> Yes, but as we all know, it's not really open source, since the code
> is 'processed' to be unreadable. The TNT driver won't stay in future
> versions of Xfree unless they release real open source code.

NVIDIA backed down.  Unobfuscated source is in XFree86 3.3.3.1.

Excerpt from the XFree86 upstream changelog:
1278. Add the newly rewritten Riva code from NVIDIA. Fixes some bugs with 
  multiple server instances running and other problems with the previous
  code. The NV1 code is unchanged. The code looks to be Open Source.
  (#2336, David Schmenk, NVIDIA).

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Re: SCSI Hard Drive Questions

[Helge Hafting]

> Hi all,
> 
>   I'm considering purchasing a SCSI Hard Drive to hold my system on,
> and I was wondering about debian/kernel support for the Adaptec AHA-2940
> UW vs. the Adaptec AHA-2940 U2W.  Also, is it economical to pay the extra
> $150 for an Ultra2 Wide controller and drive vs. an Ultra Wide?  Will I
> see a justifyable return on the doubled speed?  Sorry this is a bit
> off-topic, but I don't want to make a foolish choice...

The ultra2 wide provides twice as fast transfers to/from disk
as the ultra wide.

That won't help you *at all* if you connect a single scsi disk
only, because no single disk can sustain these high transfer
rates.  

Several scsi disks (RAID or non-RAID) can saturate the 40MB/s
of ultra-wide, ultra2 will help you in this case.

So, the big questions are:
1) Are you going to hook up so many disks that needing over 40 MB/s
   is possible at all?  The sustained transfer speed of disks are
   usually available from the manufacturer, or you can run big
   tests.  Don't confuse the sustainable rate with the
   marketed burst transfer rate (which is 80 for any ultra2 drive)
   3 drives that does 12MB/s won't be able to take advantage of ultra2,
   and few drives are that fast. 

2) Even if your system is capable of more than 40MB/s, will
   you ever need that for *your* use of the machine?
 
   Are you waiting for less-than 40MB/s disks for 
   long periods of time?  Are the disks very busy for
   long stretches of time?  You *may* find the ultra2
   useful if you can answer yes.

I wouldn't consider ultra2 (or even wide or ultra) for
a typical home machine.  Not because home-user programs
are "fast enough as is", but because they simply can't
put enough load on the drives.


Helge Hafting

RPM under Debian?

[Jernej Zajc]

Hello,

this is Linux newbie and just-heard-about-Debian asking:

is there support for RPM package management under Debian? The
website doesn't meantion it, not even for the upcoming 2.1
release. Did I miss something?

Thanx, Jernej

Debian/Caldera/RedHat

[Jernej Zajc]

Hello,

how does Debian compare to the Caldera and RedHat distributions?
Any comment from ppl that use/used COL and RH are most welcome:
pros, cons, irritations, wishes.

Thanx, Jernej

Re: RPM under Debian?

[Mitch Blevins]

In foo.debian-user, you wrote:
> Hello,
> 
> this is Linux newbie and just-heard-about-Debian asking:
> 
> is there support for RPM package management under Debian? The
> website doesn't meantion it, not even for the upcoming 2.1
> release. Did I miss something?

Debian provides different levels of rpm support.

1) The rpm program is available as a Debian package, and it can
   install/uninstall rpms.  This method of use is not advised,
   however.  RPM keeps a database of which packages are installed
   and uses this database to determine if the required dependencies
   for a given package are available.  Since the RPM database
   cannot read the database of the native Debian package manager (dpkg)
   it will not work as desired.  You can cause serious problems for
   your system by trying to use two different package managers
   actively.

2) You can use the 'alien' program, supplied as a debian package,
   to convert rpms to debs.  Then you can use dpkg to install the
   package, and still have the advantage of a single database of
   installed packages.

   This works well for non-system-critical packages and packages
   without alot of complex dependencies... but you are just asking
   for trouble if you install (for instance) gnome as a converted
   alien package.


Of course the best alternative is to install a native deb if
available.

-Mitch

Re: compiling mc: glib.h sought for at the wrong place

[Ralf G. R. Bergs]

On Tue, 19 Jan 1999 09:03:36 + (GMT), Marc Haber wrote:

[...]
>glib is present in /usr/lib/glib/include/glibconfig.h and has been
>placed there by the Debian setup. I believe that configure doesn't
>properly catch this.
>
>I don't have a clue about the conventions where to place include files
>and would suggest changing configure/Makefile to include
>/usr/lib/glib/include into the include directories.

As a quick hack you can always create a symbolic link so that the compiler 
finds the include file.

If you include a source file as follows

  #include 

this file must be present in /usr/include in order to be found. Thus, create a 
link like this:

  ln -s /usr/lib/glib/include/glibconfig.h /usr/include/glibconfig.h

and you should be done.

>Is that an mc or a Debian problem?

I guess it's a Debian problem. The glibc package should be responsible for its 
include files to be found without user intervention.


-- 
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Re: apt-get to upgrade from hamm to slink.

[Martin Bialasinski]

>> "MH" == Mark Herrick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

MH> Does anyone know roughly what size an upgrade from hamm to slink
MH> is?

Don't call apt-get dist-upgrade directly.

Better use the apt method in dselect. (update, select, install)

There have been package splits, dselect will get them, apt-get
dist-upgrade will not.

Ciao,
Martin

Re: Quake2 & nVidia TNT

[Daniel Elenius]

>NVIDIA backed down.  Unobfuscated source is in XFree86 3.3.3.1.
>
>Excerpt from the XFree86 upstream changelog:
>1278. Add the newly rewritten Riva code from NVIDIA. Fixes some bugs with 
>  multiple server instances running and other problems with the previous
>  code. The NV1 code is unchanged. The code looks to be Open Source.
>  (#2336, David Schmenk, NVIDIA).
>

Happy happy, joy joy!

Re: RPM under Debian?

[Henning Makholm]

Jernej Zajc <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> this is Linux newbie and just-heard-about-Debian asking:

> is there support for RPM package management under Debian? The
> website doesn't meantion it, not even for the upcoming 2.1
> release. Did I miss something?

In addition to the answer you've already got: I have a feeling that
your question might be caused by articles in magazines that sometimes
recommend Redhat or another RPM-based distributions because of the
ease-of-use compared to less sophisticated installation systems.

In that case you should know that Debian's native packaging
system, .deb, is at least as sophisticated as RPM and will give
you the same advantages. In fact we find deb to be a technically
superior tool.

-- 
Henning Makholm
http://www.diku.dk/students/makholm

Re: Setting up diald.

[John Hasler]

Rafael Kitover writes:
> ...something as simple as having an option that says "Would you like to
> use diald?" in pppconfig would have been nice, of course,

Maybe someday.  From my point of view it isn't exactly "something simple",
of course.  Among other things, the default pppd options file has things in
it that diald is supposedly incompatible with.
-- 
John Hasler
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (John Hasler)
Dancing Horse Hill
Elmwood, WI

installation problems

[Brett Molinari]

I am trying to install debian on a 386 with 8 meg of ram with floppies. I am 
getting the following messages before the machine hangs: -

boot:
loading root.bin...
parity check1 

Assumung it was a memory problem  I removed 4 meg at a time and tried a lowmem 
installation  with the same result.

I would greatly appreciate any help offered as I would really like to try out 
this os. 

Regards
Brett Molinari
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: emergency disk/mounting files

[Bob Nielsen]

On Tue, 19 Jan 1999, KTB wrote:

> I need to change an X config file I screwed up so I can get into Linux.
> I'm using my boot disk to get to root, so I can bypass X, so I can edit
> the file.  This is the message and prompt I get when booting from the
> floppy:
> 
> VFS: Mounted root (ext2 filesystem) read only.
> sh: /usr/bin/check -sendfile: No such file or directory
> /#
> 
> I then use the command umount like so:
> /# umount /
> 
> I then tried mounting like so:
> /# mount /dev/hdb2 / -rw
> 
>  and got this:
> mount: you must specify the filesystem type
> 
> So I tried:
> /# mount  ext2 /dev/hdb2 / -rw
> 
> and got:
> Usage: mount [-hv]
> mount -a ...and so on.
> 
> I also tried:
> /# mount -rw /dev/hdb2 /
> and got the same readout as the example before:
> Usage..
> 

>From 'man mount':
The standard form of the mount command, is
  mount -t type device dir

So you would use:

mount -t ext2 /dev/hdb2 /

This should give you read/write permissions, but you could also do:

mount -t -o rw ext2 /dev/hdb2 /

Bob


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Tucson, AZ  AMPRnet:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
DM42nh  http://www.primenet.com/~nielsen

ATAPI CDROM problem (NEC-260)

[Kenneth Scharf]

Try "linux /dev/hdb = cdrom" at the lilo prompt.



==
Amateur Radio, when all else fails!

http://www.qsl.net/wa2mze

Debian Gnu Linux, Live Free or .


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update to latest slink and the network is not more working

[Giuseppe Sacco]

Hi,
I was almost up to date with slink, then, after two weeks, I tryed
an apt-get update and apt-get upgrade

Now the PCMCIA ethernet doesn't work, this is the error I get:

hsogso:~# ping idefix
PING idefix (10.1.1.10): 56 data bytes
ping: sendto: Operation not permitted
ping: wrote idefix 64 chars, ret=-1
ping: sendto: Operation not permitted
ping: wrote idefix 64 chars, ret=-1
ping: sendto: Operation not permitted
ping: wrote idefix 64 chars, ret=-1
hsogso:~# ifconfig  eth0
eth0  Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr 00:60:08:22:CE:71  
  inet addr:10.1.10.240  Bcast:10.1.255.255  Mask:255.255.0.0
  UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST  MTU:1500  Metric:1
  RX packets:120 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
  TX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
  Collisions:0 
  Interrupt:3 Base address:0x300 


Any suggestions?


Thanks,
Giuseppe

Re: Automatic ftping in a script - how?

[Tino Schwarze]

Hi Frankie,
> > > > I want to write a script in which some files are automatically ftped to
> > > > another machine (a username and password needs to be entered).  Is there
> > > > a nice utility which will enable me to do this?
> > >
> > > check out the ncftpput utility
> > No need for any utility apart from plain ftp:
> > 
> > #!/bin/bash
> > #
> > ftp < > open target.host.net
> > user youruser
> > pass yourpassword
> > bin
> > cd /where/to/put/the/file
> > put your_local_file
> > bye
> > EOF
> is there any way to return control to the user during the process
> without ending ftp? (eg if the files wasn't there then they would have
> to get it manually or sthg?)
This gets more complicated...  I think looking into expect will be
neccessary then. But it might(!) be possible to have a shell script
talking to ftp and responding to it's answers...

Bye, Tino.

Re: Debian/Caldera/RedHat

[Bob Nielsen]

On Mon, 18 Jan 1999, Jernej Zajc wrote:

> Hello,
> 
> how does Debian compare to the Caldera and RedHat distributions?
> Any comment from ppl that use/used COL and RH are most welcome:
> pros, cons, irritations, wishes.

Well, I haven't used Caldera, but I feel (unlike some) that Debian is MORE
user-friendly than Red Hat.  The dselect method of package selection is a
bit cumbersome, but only because of increasingly large number of packages
available. 

Debian handles dependencies much better and upgrading is much safer.  

With some patience, installation can be done with a dial-up PPP
connection.

Most of the configuration helpers are text based instead of gui, but I see
this as a plus, since I have some boxes without X-window installed.

Bob

 
Bob Nielsen Internet: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Tucson, AZ  AMPRnet:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Re: Debian goes big business? [was: Re: Suggestion for RedHat (was: RH vs Debian)]

[Eric Gillespie, Jr.]

I hope no one gets angry at me for reviving this thread, but I'm just now
reading it and I think this could be an important issue.

Christian Lavoie ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:

> My point is that this company would one day tries ot improve it's
> revenues and influence the Debian distribution to fits its needs. Look
> at the recent discussions about whether to ship Slink as i386 only, or
> to wait until m68k and others are ready. If Debian had been
> commercially distributed by a company, the choice wouldn't be taken on
> a 'How can this help the Debian dists and end-users' basis, but on a
> 'How can we get the most bucks' basis.
>  

You're thinking in traditional terms. Someone decides these issues now,
right? Those exact same people would be in charge of this corporation.
They would not be interested in the bottom line, but in what's best for
Debian. The word "corporation" scares a lot of people because of what it's
come to represent. But how a corporation is run is decided internally.
Just because there aren't any democratic corporations doesn't mean we
can't start one.

This new democratic Debian corporation could sell shrink-wrapped Debian
CDs right next to Red Hat CDs, hopefully cheaper. Combined with Debian's
advantages over Red Hat and word-of-mouth, Debian could possibly eclipse
Red Hat. Even if it doesn't become the best-selling distro, it could still
sell enough to give the developer's jobs. I'm not sure if this would be
considered a for-profit corporation or not. No one's really raking in any
profit, most of the money is going back into Debian and paying for the
packaging and such, but some people are getting paid, so I'm not sure.

I can see only two changes in Debian due to this corporation. Development
would (presumably) go faster because the developers are getting paid, and
Debian would become more well-known.

I also liked the idea that someone suggested earlier, that people could
pay dues into this corporation and get a vote. A democratic corporation
indeed.

This may sound radical, but we'll never know if it will work unless we
try, will we?

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|---<*>|
| "That's the problem with going from a soldier to a   |
|  politician: you actually have to sit down and listen to |
|  people who six months ago you would've just shot."  |
|  --President John Sheridan, Babylon 5|
\--/

Re: Debian/Caldera/RedHat

[virtanen]

On Tue, 19 Jan 1999, Bob Nielsen wrote:

> Well, I haven't used Caldera, but I feel (unlike some) that Debian is MORE
> user-friendly than Red Hat.  The dselect method of package selection is a
> bit cumbersome, but only because of increasingly large number of packages
> available. 

I agree... after using it for some time, I think that dpkg and dselect are
great. The big number of packages isn't so big problem, because it is
quite easy to search for a certain package. dselect is at least as
user-friendly as glint (RH-method)... Maybe some colors for different
texts visible on the screen would help reading while using dselect? Other
thing, which might be added to the information visible on the screen, is
the information about different config-files for the package and
information, where they go...?   

> 
> Debian handles dependencies much better and upgrading is much safer.  

Does it? How can we make a comparision? 
Some people say as well that dpkg is technically superior to rpm. What is
the base for this opinion? (I don't mean that this isn't true, but wanted
to know something about the technical difference.) 
According to my experience rpm works fine as well as does dpkg. I used
some time RH and SuSE and tried just for trying's sake to install and
remove many rpm's. The only problems I had with yast (SuSE) and glint (RH)
were connected with wrong libraries (with SuSE) otherwise they worked
well. Especially 'yast' is quite clever with dependencies. 

> Most of the configuration helpers are text based instead of gui, but I see
> this as a plus, since I have some boxes without X-window installed.

This is OK in my opinion.

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Fwd: Re: [OFFTOPIC]Gnu Utils For AIX

[Jay Barbee]

>Resent-Date: 14 Jan 1999 23:05:22 -
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>Date: Fri, 15 Jan 1999 00:03:18 +0100 (CET)
>From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Reply-To: Raoul Boenisch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: Keith Beattie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>cc: Chris Hoover <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, debian-user@lists.debian.org,
>  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: Re: [OFFTOPIC]Gnu Utils For AIX
>Resent-From: debian-user@lists.debian.org
>X-Mailing-List:  archive/latest/32635
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>Resent-Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>On Thu, 14 Jan 1999, Keith Beattie wrote:
>
>> On Thu, Jan 14, 1999 at 02:18:01PM -0500, Chris Hoover wrote:
>> >
>> > I was wondering if anyone knows if there are any GNU (or other no
>> > cost) utils that work with AIX.  Specifically, I'm hoping to find
>> > something like top.  So we can find out which process is trying to
>> > kill the machine here at work.
>> 
>> I always go to ftp://prep.ai.mit.edu/pub/gnu/ and grab the source of
>> what I need and then build it on what ever platform I'm on.  I don't
>> see source for top there but a script around ps may get you closer to
>> what you need.
>
>The sources of top can be found in the package procps-1.2.7 or higher at
>least. Fetch it from the above ftp-site.

Have your tried 'monitor -top'.  We are using AIX/6000 v4.2.1.

--Jay

Re: rawrite for linux

[homega]

Jonathan Sprague dixit:
> 
> 
> dd if=FILE.EXT of=/dev/fd0 (for floppy a:)

say I want to make an image of Slackware's boot & root disks from my cdrom
to the floppy, would it be as follows?:

mount -t iso9660 /dev/hdb /cdrom
mount -t ext2 /dev/fd0 /floppy

dd if =/dev/hdb/bare.i of=/dev/fd0

dd if=/dev/hdb/color.gz of=/dev/fd0

BTW, I believe obs=18k deals with disk space/capacity somehow.

Cheers.

-- 
Un saludo,

Horacio

[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: emergency disk/mounting files

[Brandon Mitchell]

On Tue, 19 Jan 1999, Bob Nielsen wrote:

> On Tue, 19 Jan 1999, KTB wrote:
> 
> > I need to change an X config file I screwed up so I can get into Linux.
> > I'm using my boot disk to get to root, so I can bypass X, so I can edit
> > the file.  This is the message and prompt I get when booting from the
> > floppy:
> > 
> > VFS: Mounted root (ext2 filesystem) read only.
> > sh: /usr/bin/check -sendfile: No such file or directory
> > /#
> > 
> > I then use the command umount like so:
> > /# umount /
> > 
> > I then tried mounting like so:
> > /# mount /dev/hdb2 / -rw
> > 
> >  and got this:
> > mount: you must specify the filesystem type

I don't understand how you are doing things after unmounting the root
partition.  Do you actually boot off the rescue disk and get to the
color/mono screen?  Anyway, in answer to your current question, try:
mount -o remount,rw /

HTH,
Brandon

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bash programming question

[Michael Meskes]

Hi,

I have a small sh script that does essantially the following:

variable=`find . -print`

for file in $variable
do

done

However, this does not work if there are blanks in the filename as $file
would be incomplete. I cannot simply use -exec for find either since I call
a function from the same script inside the loop. Finally I need to read some
input during this function, so simply piping the find results and reading
them via read doesn't work either. 

Does anyone have an idea how to do this? 

Michael

P.S.: Please CC me on your answer.
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Tel.: (+49) 2431/72651 | Use Debian GNU/Linux!
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Re: Debian/Caldera/RedHat

[Harrison, Shawn]

<>

One little trick I've begun using to get around the cumbersomeness of 
dselect is to use it to select new packages, but then to install those 
packages manually. That way, it tells me about all dependencies and I can 
make a list of needed packages. Then I simply go into the CD and dpkg -i 
all of those packages by hand -- and if one depends on another, install 
the dependable package first. That way, I don't have to wait an hour for 
dpkg -iGROEB or whatever it is to go through every one of my packages.

==
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
==

HELP! Sound recorder for (Debian) Linux with signal level indicator

[Wojciech Zabolotny]

Hi All!

Does anybody know about the sound recorder for Linux with signal level
indicator? I have to digitize some signals from biomedical
experiments, recorded on the tape recorder. I need to control the mixer's
gain because the signals' level is different for different subjects.
Therefore the recorder should have at least the level indicator (the mixer
software may be run on the different VC). Unfortunately I was unable to
find the recorder meeting my requirements:
1) Ability to run in the background
2) Svgalib based level indicator (X is acceptable, but svgalib is
   preferred, I know it interferes with the first requirement, but is
   possible)
3) Programmable sampling rate
4) Compatibility with kernels' sound driver (/dev/dsp)
5) Debian package prefered, but it is not necessary.

Output may be in any form acceptable by sox...
If anybody knows about such software, please let me know. 
I can write it by my own, but it has to take a few hours :-(.

Thanks in advance
Wojtek Zabolotny
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: rawrite for linux

[E.L. Meijer \(Eric\)]

> 
> Jonathan Sprague dixit:
> > 
> > 
> > dd if=FILE.EXT of=/dev/fd0 (for floppy a:)
> 
> say I want to make an image of Slackware's boot & root disks from my cdrom
> to the floppy, would it be as follows?:
> 
> mount -t iso9660 /dev/hdb /cdrom

Yes, the image is a file on the file system on the cdrom.  The cdrom
needs to be mounted so linux can access the files on the cdrom.

> mount -t ext2 /dev/fd0 /floppy

No.  The image contains the file system that should go on the floppy,
and needs to be copied to the raw floppy device.

> dd if =/dev/hdb/bare.i of=/dev/fd0
> dd if=/dev/hdb/color.gz of=/dev/fd0

No.  You have just mounted the cdrom device /dev/hdb on the directory
/cdrom.  All the files on the cdrom's file system are now visible under
/cdrom, so you need to do

dd if=/cdrom/bare.i of=/dev/fd0
 [ insert another floppy in the drive ]
dd if=/cdrom/color.gz of=/dev/fd0

You will probably need root permission to do this, or be a member of the
disk group.

HTH,
Eric Meijer

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fetchmail, exim, fvwm95, and netscape mail

[Rich Harran.]

I would like to use fetchmail to get my mail of a POP3 server, exim to
sort it, and deal with the SMTP interaction with fetchmail, and Netscape
mail to read it, and to compose outgoing mail with.

Firstly, I got fetchmail & exim working together by using:
exim -bd
fetchmail -d 300
with the following ~/.fetchmailrc
server mail-serv.eng.cam.ac.uk
proto POP3
user 
pass 
smtphost .
keep
and fetchmail regularly checked for mail, and if there was any, downloaded
it, and emim appended it to the file
/var/spool/mail/.
Also, in X and fvwm95, an envelope symbol appeared in the bottom right
hand corner of the screen, which went white if there was unread mail in
the file above.  It also beeped on new mail arrival, and on double-click
tried to launch pine (although I don't have it, so it didn't work).
I then added a ~/.forward file, which saved messages in the ~/nsmail
directory according to who sent them.  However, this meant the envelope
and beep feature in fvwm95 no longer worked.  I could launch netscape
mail, and its folders had changed appropriately, but it was confused by
this, and didn't realise I had new mail.
Two things I would like to do:
1. Have exim sort my mail, but retain the fvwm notification.
2. Have netscape acknowledge new mail from exim sorting
3. Have the fvwm notification thingy launch netscape mail on
double clicking, not pine. (ok, I can't count)

Could anyone give any hints on solving any of these problems, please.

Thanks a lot
Rich

Re: rawrite for linux

[Helge Hafting]

> Jonathan Sprague dixit:
> > 
> > 
> > dd if=FILE.EXT of=/dev/fd0 (for floppy a:)
> 
> say I want to make an image of Slackware's boot & root disks from my cdrom
> to the floppy, would it be as follows?:
> 
> mount -t iso9660 /dev/hdb /cdrom
Yes, assuming you have an IDE cdrom as a slave on the first controller
> mount -t ext2 /dev/fd0 /floppy
No, don't mount the floppy drive.  Doing this will cause
the next commands to fail because the floppy is mounted.
> 
> dd if =/dev/hdb/bare.i of=/dev/fd0
Almost, but you can't use /dev/hdb.  Use /cdrom where you mounted it, i.e.
dd if=/cdrom/bare.i
> 
> dd if=/dev/hdb/color.gz of=/dev/fd0
Again, use cdrom instead of dev/hdb
dd if=/cdrom/color.gz of=/dev/fd0

This is assuming that "bare.i" and "color.gz" are disk image files.
I guess from the name that the color.gz thing is a gzipped file,
you will probably want to gunzip it first.

Helge Hafting

help to make something work

[Luis Cabral]

Hello

I started using linux, and I am enthusiasmed.
I installed a Debian distribution in a very standard
PC (Pentium 200, 32 mb, SVGA, 200 Mb on linux partition).
I installed also xfree86 and KDE.

KDE and packaged applications (man etc) work.
But I can´t make anything else work! I downloaded Netscape
4.5, installed it successfully, and when I run
it, it says: Segmentation Fault.
I downloaded Wordperfect 8 and, after many tries, I
installed it successfully; but xwp says: Floating
point fault.
I installed also a CAD called SISCAD-P, and it says
also: Floating point fault.
I tried with other softwares (downloaded from the net)
with similar results.

You see, I wish use linux not for hacking, but as a
stable desktop environment, and I do not wish spend hours
editing config files and chmod-ing etc to make it work.

Can anyone help me?

Thank you
Luis Cabral

Re: rawrite for linux

[Henning Makholm]

Helge Hafting <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> > dd if=/dev/hdb/color.gz of=/dev/fd0
> Again, use cdrom instead of dev/hdb
> dd if=/cdrom/color.gz of=/dev/fd0

> This is assuming that "bare.i" and "color.gz" are disk image files.
> I guess from the name that the color.gz thing is a gzipped file,
> you will probably want to gunzip it first.

As far as I recall, the root filesystem image in the slackware
install disks is supposed to be gzipped on the disk. It is unzipped
into a ramdisk device at boot time, and then the ramdisk is mounted
as /.

(I don't understand exactly how this happens, like, where does
the code that controlls this process come from when there is no
file system yet?)

-- 
Henning Makholm
http://www.diku.dk/students/makholm

Re: ATAPI CDROM problem (NEC-260)

[Kent West]

At 12:04 AM 1/19/1999 -0800, Terry Hancock wrote:
>Apparently the OS is making an incorrect assumption
>about the identity of the device and then failing
>because of it.  (Ever heard of an IDE floppy?  I've
>certainly never seen one).  Anyway, after booting,
>there is no /dev/hdb device to mount.

Kenneth Sharf hopefully provided the solution (as I have none), but I did
want to say that I *think* (and don't quote me on this) that an internal
zip drive is considered an IDE floppy.

Re: help to make something work

[virtanen]

On Tue, 19 Jan 1999, Luis Cabral wrote:

> Hello
> 
> I started using linux, and I am enthusiasmed.
> I installed a Debian distribution in a very standard
> PC (Pentium 200, 32 mb, SVGA, 200 Mb on linux partition).
> I installed also xfree86 and KDE.

> I downloaded Wordperfect 8 and, after many tries, I 
> installed it successfully; but xwp says: Floating
> point fault.

I had quite similar problem with wp8. I still don't know, what caused the
problem. But it cured itself when I installed wp8 using 'su' instead with
loging as a normal user (instead of loging as 'root'). I haven't got
any idea, why it didn't work as installed by 'root'... 

[EMAIL PROTECTED] 

Re: rawrite for linux

[E.L. Meijer \(Eric\)]

Henning Makholm wrote:
> As far as I recall, the root filesystem image in the slackware
> install disks is supposed to be gzipped on the disk. It is unzipped
> into a ramdisk device at boot time, and then the ramdisk is mounted
> as /.
> 
> (I don't understand exactly how this happens, like, where does
> the code that controlls this process come from when there is no
> file system yet?)

The root disk is written to and read from the raw floppy device, so no
file system is involved reading it.  All of the ramdisk code is in the
kernel (if you choose to compile it in, that is).

Eric Meijer

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Trying to upgrade to slink (mc doesnt like this)

[Paulo Henrique Baptista de Oliveira]

HI Debian users,
I have a machine that I'm trying to upgrade from Hamm to Slink, but
I have a problem with mc (4.1.35-1) that is broken and I cant upgrade the
whole distribution. I'm getting with nervous because mc :)
I know that there is a new mc (4.5.1-1), but when I try to upgrade the
following error occurs.

linuxlabs:/home/baptista# dpkg -i mc_4.5.1-1.deb 
(Reading database ... 55815 files and directories currently installed.)
Preparing to replace mc 4.1.35-1 (using mc_4.5.1-1.deb) ...
Unpacking replacement mc ...
/var/lib/dpkg/info/mc.postrm: line 17: 13742 Aborted
update-menus
dpkg: warning - old post-removal script returned error exit status 134
dpkg - trying script from the new package instead ...
/var/lib/dpkg/tmp.ci/postrm: line 17: 13744 Aborted
update-menus
dpkg: error processing mc_4.5.1-1.deb (--install):
subprocess new post-removal script returned error exit status 134
/var/lib/dpkg/tmp.ci/postrm: line 17: 13746 Aborted
update-menus
dpkg: error while cleaning up:
subprocess post-removal script returned error exit status 134
Errors were encountered while processing:
mc_4.5.1-1.deb
linuxlabs:/home/baptista# 

What I can do? Thanks for any help, Paulo Henrique

Re: Vedr: New installation - Xserver failure

[Kent West]

At 07:21 PM 1/18/1999 +, you wrote:
>Quoting [EMAIL PROTECTED] ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
>> >The Xserver can's start.
>> >It's looking for a file, that doesn't exist: /usr/bin/X11/XF86_NONE
>> >It shouldn't look for that file - but for the XF86SVGA, I guess.
>> >
>> >I guess there is a configurationsfile somewhere, in which I have
>> >to change the XF86_NONE to >XF86SVGA.
>> >
>> >What file is that???
>> 
>> Wouldn't it be an easy solution to change the name of the existing XF86SVGA
>> - file to the requested name XF86_NONE?
>
>Apologies if I've missed some sort of joke, but that's the kind of
>change which is easily made on a linux system, leading you gently
>towards a state where things don't quite work correctly, but nobody
>can help you fix it because nothing quite matches the documentation.
>
>For example, why not get rid of root? Change the first four characters
>of /etc/passwd to something else. No problem: superuser privilege
>comes from being 0, not from the name root. The trouble is, before
>long something will break.
>
>Cheers,
>

But to answer the question, the /etc/X11/Xserver file is the one that
references XF86_NONE. The first line references that, and it should be
changed to XF86_SVGA (or whatever server you're running).

Also, when I was starting out (I'm just *barely* beyond that stage now),
the documentation I read (Linux Unleashed or the Linux nutshell book, I
don't remember), indicated to me that the Xserver file was a link to the
server, rather than a config file that points to the server. So I changed
the link. Later I realized that Debian doesn't do things that way. I don't
know if the book I was following was out of date, or if Debian does things
differently in this regard than other dists did when the book was written,
but at any rate, "nothing quite matched [my] documentation".

Nonetheless, it's a good point that David makes; the Debian documentation
takes precedence over other documentation, and doing things that "work" but
aren't the correct way can cause problems later on.  A problem is that it's
hard for newbies to make the distinction between Debian documentation and
any other documentation they might find, which is a good argument for
making man pages more friendly to the newbie.

RE: bash programming question

[Shaleh]

On 19-Jan-99 Michael Meskes wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> I have a small sh script that does essantially the following:
> 
> variable=`find . -print`
> 
> for file in $variable
> do
>   
> done
> 

try:

for file in `find . -print`
do
${file}
done

The braces should help keep the variable consistent.  So far I see nothing
"bash" here.  This is also a valid ksh or ash script.  If you leave off the
'function' keyword many supposed bash scripts are valid bourne scripts.

Re: help to make something work

[Kent West]

At 01:37 PM 1/19/1999 -0300, Luis Cabral wrote:
>Hello
>
>I started using linux, and I am enthusiasmed.
>I installed a Debian distribution in a very standard
>PC (Pentium 200, 32 mb, SVGA, 200 Mb on linux partition).
>I installed also xfree86 and KDE.
>
>KDE and packaged applications (man etc) work.
>But I can´t make anything else work! I downloaded Netscape
>4.5, installed it successfully, and when I run
>it, it says: Segmentation Fault.
>I downloaded Wordperfect 8 and, after many tries, I 
>installed it successfully; but xwp says: Floating
>point fault.
>I installed also a CAD called SISCAD-P, and it says
>also: Floating point fault.
>I tried with other softwares (downloaded from the net)
>with similar results.
>
>You see, I wish use linux not for hacking, but as a
>stable desktop environment, and I do not wish spend hours
>editing config files and chmod-ing etc to make it work.
>
>Can anyone help me?
>
>Thank you
>Luis Cabral

200 MB is awfully small to run more than a basic system. Run the df command
and see if your partition is near 100% full (Capacity). That may be a clue.

current slink

[Noah L. Meyerhans]

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I am thinking about upgrading my system (at least libc, apt, and things
like that) to slink from hamm.  But I don't want to do it if slink is
known to be broken at this point.  Was the glibc version problem of last
week ever fixed?  Does the currently available libc satisfy the
dependencies of all (or at least most) of the available packages?

Any comments on the current status of slink are appreciated.  I realize
what it means to be running a frozen or unstable release.  I upgraded to
hamm shortly before it was officially released, and things went smoothly.
I'd like some comments from people currently running slink, though, before
I upgrade to something that's known to be broken.

TIA,
noah


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Re: emergency disk/mounting files

[KTB]

Brandon Mitchell wrote:

> On Tue, 19 Jan 1999, Bob Nielsen wrote:
>
> > On Tue, 19 Jan 1999, KTB wrote:
> >
> > > I need to change an X config file I screwed up so I can get into Linux.
> > > I'm using my boot disk to get to root, so I can bypass X, so I can edit
> > > the file.  This is the message and prompt I get when booting from the
> > > floppy:
> > >
> > > VFS: Mounted root (ext2 filesystem) read only.
> > > sh: /usr/bin/check -sendfile: No such file or directory
> > > /#
> > >
> > > I then use the command umount like so:
> > > /# umount /
> > >
> > > I then tried mounting like so:
> > > /# mount /dev/hdb2 / -rw
> > >
> > >  and got this:
> > > mount: you must specify the filesystem type
>
> I don't understand how you are doing things after unmounting the root
> partition.  Do you actually boot off the rescue disk and get to the
> color/mono screen?  Anyway, in answer to your current question, try:
> mount -o remount,rw /

I don't know that I can explain it very well but I'm booting to begin with from 
the
rescue disk.  When "boot:" comes up I type "linux init=/bin/sh" There is no 
color
screen I'm not sure what a mono screen is.  I just get the regular non-X 
screen.  I
tried "mount -o remount, rw /" and got the following error:
EXT2 warning: maximal mount count reached, running e2fsck is recommended
mount: warning: cannot change mounted device with a remount

OK, I hope I can put this down in a legible way.  Here is some other info I 
have found
out:

First, just above the prompt is this message:
VFS: Mounted root (ext2 filesystem) read only
sh: /usr/bin/check -sendfile: No such file or directory

 Before doing anything on this last boot is use "mount" at the prompt, this is 
what I
got:
/# mount
dev/hdb1 on / type ext2 (rw)
proc on /proc type proc (rw)

The message "above the prompt" tells me "read only" using the 'mount' command 
seems to
be telling me read and write, but it is read only.
---
One thing I think I have been doing wrong is I have been trying to mount my swap
partion.  I have three partions:
hdb1 (root), hdb2 (swap) and hdb3 (whatever you call it, user portion)

I went back and tried all the suggested mount lines such as, "mount -t ext2 
/dev/hdb2
/"  and replaced "/devhdb2" with "/dev/hdb1"  This obtained no different 
results than
using "/dev/hdb2"

Another thing that might be going wrong is I'm not unmounting properly.  This 
is what
I put in to unmount:
/# umount /

Then I tried the mount command and got the following:
 /# mount
dev/hdb1 on / type ext2 (rw)
proc on /proc type proc (rw)

Which is the same thing I got when I first logged on before trying to unmount.

So I tried "umount -t ext2 /dev/hdb1 /"
I got a prompt and tried "mount" and got the same thing as before:
/# mount
dev/hdb1 on / type ext2 (rw)
proc on /proc type proc (rw)

I tried to mount with "mount -t ext2 /dev/hdb1 /"
and got the following:
mount: /dev/hdb1 already mounted or / busy
mount: according to mtab, /dev/hdb1 is already mounted on /
-
I found that if I use "mount -a" I can use the editor 'joe'  I can look at a 
file but
can't change anything it tells me "read only."

When I used the command "mount" with "-a" I got the following message:
EXT2-fs warning: mounting unchecked fs, running e2fsck is recommended

When I tried "mount -a -rw" I got the same message:
EXT2-fs warning: mounting unchecked fs, running e2fsck is recommended
--
I hope someone can help.  I can't access my system until I change the file to 
turn off
xdm, then I should be able to start up my system without the boot disk and 
correct
what I did in the various XF86Config files.  I have looked at man pages and 
howto's on
the internet and can't find anything about what I'm experiencing here.  There 
has to
be a way for me to read AND write to files through using the boot floppy.  If 
not I
guess I'll have to just reinstall.
Thanks,
Kent

Re: apt-get to upgrade from hamm to slink.

[Santiago Vila Doncel]

On 19 Jan 1999, Martin Bialasinski wrote:

> >> "MH" == Mark Herrick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> 
> MH> Does anyone know roughly what size an upgrade from hamm to slink
> MH> is?
> 
> Don't call apt-get dist-upgrade directly.
> 
> Better use the apt method in dselect. (update, select, install)
> 
> There have been package splits, dselect will get them, apt-get
> dist-upgrade will not.

No, there are not compatibility packages for X yet, so I'm not sure that
dselect will get them.

Re: rawrite for linux

[Rene Hojbjerg Larsen]

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> Jonathan Sprague dixit:
>> 
>> dd if=FILE.EXT of=/dev/fd0 (for floppy a:)
> 
> say I want to make an image of Slackware's boot & root disks from my cdrom
> to the floppy, would it be as follows?:
> 
> mount -t iso9660 /dev/hdb /cdrom
> mount -t ext2 /dev/fd0 /floppy
  ^^
You should not mount the floppy if you are going to write to the floppy
device (/dev/fd0) directly.  Besides, these floppy images do not contain
ext2 file systems.

> dd if =/dev/hdb/bare.i of=/dev/fd0
> 
> dd if=/dev/hdb/color.gz of=/dev/fd0

You have mounted the CDROM on /cdrom, so these commands should read

dd if=/cdrom/bare.i of=/dev/fd0
dd if=/cdrom/color.gz of=/dev/fd0

Alternatively, you could use cp to do this:

cp /cdrom/bare.i /dev/fd0
...

> BTW, I believe obs=18k deals with disk space/capacity somehow.

This shouldn't matter as long as the floppies are low-level formatted in
advance (use superformat if they aren't).

HTH.
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Re: help to make something work

[virtanen]

On Tue, 19 Jan 1999, Kent West wrote:

> 200 MB is awfully small to run more than a basic system. Run the df command
> and see if your partition is near 100% full (Capacity). That may be a clue.

Probably you're right. But I think that wp8 installation program should
give a message during the installation that there isn't space enough left. 

And I had quite the same problem with wp8 and my disk was really far from
being full. (Afterwrds I've managed to install for example Staroffice5.0
on the same disk some 80 mega more...)

hv  

Re: help to make something work

[Andrew Ivanov]

> Hello
> 
> I started using linux, and I am enthusiasmed.
> I installed a Debian distribution in a very standard
> PC (Pentium 200, 32 mb, SVGA, 200 Mb on linux partition).
> I installed also xfree86 and KDE.
> 
> KDE and packaged applications (man etc) work.
> But I can´t make anything else work! I downloaded Netscape
> 4.5, installed it successfully, and when I run
> it, it says: Segmentation Fault.
> I downloaded Wordperfect 8 and, after many tries, I 
> installed it successfully; but xwp says: Floating
> point fault.
> I installed also a CAD called SISCAD-P, and it says
> also: Floating point fault.
> I tried with other softwares (downloaded from the net)
> with similar results.

Ok, this is a very wild guess, but
maybe you have a Pentuim processor with one of those early Floating Point
units, that
produce an error. TO go around it recompile the kernel to include the
work-around for that FPU bug.
Andrew

Re: help to make something work

[Marc Althoff]

Kent West wrote:

...

> >I downloaded Wordperfect 8 and, after many tries, I
> >installed it successfully; but xwp says: Floating
> >point fault.
> >I installed also a CAD called SISCAD-P, and it says
> >also: Floating point fault.
> >I tried with other softwares (downloaded from the net)
> >with similar results.
> >
> >You see, I wish use linux not for hacking, but as a
> >stable desktop environment, and I do not wish spend hours
> >editing config files and chmod-ing etc to make it work.
> >
> >Can anyone help me?
> >
> >Thank you
> >Luis Cabral
>
> 200 MB is awfully small to run more than a basic system. Run the df command
> and see if your partition is near 100% full (Capacity). That may be a clue.

You're right. But apart from that I have the same problem with WPLinux8 (current
version) running on a large enough partition (glibc and 2.034 / 
2.2.0pre5Kernel) .

Re: Debian goes big business? [was: Re: Suggestion for RedHat (was: RH vs Debian)]

[Christian Lavoie]

> > My point is that this company would one day tries ot improve it's
> > revenues and influence the Debian distribution to fits its needs. Look
> > at the recent discussions about whether to ship Slink as i386 only, or
> > to wait until m68k and others are ready. If Debian had been
> > commercially distributed by a company, the choice wouldn't be taken on
> > a 'How can this help the Debian dists and end-users' basis, but on a
> > 'How can we get the most bucks' basis.
> >

> You're thinking in traditional terms. Someone decides these issues 
now,
> right? Those exact same people would be in charge of this corporation.
> They would not be interested in the bottom line, but in what's best 
for
> Debian. The word "corporation" scares a lot of people because of what 
it's
> come to represent. But how a corporation is run is decided internally.
> Just because there aren't any democratic corporations doesn't mean we
> can't start one.

I starting to think this whole mess started on a word understanding 
problem. I wouldn't name such an organization a 'corporation', =P

> This new democratic Debian corporation could sell shrink-wrapped 
Debian
> CDs right next to Red Hat CDs, hopefully cheaper. Combined with 
Debian's
> advantages over Red Hat and word-of-mouth, Debian could possibly 
eclipse
> Red Hat. Even if it doesn't become the best-selling distro, it could 
still
> sell enough to give the developer's jobs. I'm not sure if this would 
be
> considered a for-profit corporation or not. No one's really raking in 
any
> profit, most of the money is going back into Debian and paying for the
> packaging and such, but some people are getting paid, so I'm not sure.

> I can see only two changes in Debian due to this corporation. 
Development
> would (presumably) go faster because the developers are getting paid, 
and
> Debian would become more well-known.

> I also liked the idea that someone suggested earlier, that people 
could
> pay dues into this corporation and get a vote. A democratic 
corporation
> indeed.

> This may sound radical, but we'll never know if it will work unless we
> try, will we?

Nope. But it does indeed sounds real good. How can we do so?

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Re: help to make something work

[virtanen]

On Tue, 19 Jan 1999, Andrew Ivanov wrote:

> Ok, this is a very wild guess, but
> maybe you have a Pentuim processor with one of those early Floating Point
> units, that
> produce an error. TO go around it recompile the kernel to include the
> work-around for that FPU bug.
> Andrew

This wild quess isn't so bad in my opinion. I had quite similar problem
and have got such an old pentium processor. But the kernel knows this
problem even without recompiling... it gives the message of this bug and
does that workaround...  

hvirtane

(in my opinion this question is interesting, that's why i keep on thinking
about it.) 

NFS and Solaris 2.5

[Matt Delaney]

I am running a Debian 2.0 on a i686. It functions as an NFS server to 
a number of other Debian i686 machines and a SPARC Solaris 2.5 machine.
I think the SPARC is crashing the nfsd on the Debian server and it
typically occurs when I copy very large files to the NFS FS from a 
local FS on the SPARC machine. Usually the situation can be solved by
restarting /etc/init/netstd_nfs.

I have been in contact with other users who have this identical problem 
on identical machines.

Typical log entries in the NFS server daemon.log:

Jan 19 12:55:34 bermuda nfsd[4788]: strange write req from hawaii.ucd.ie: count 
4294967295 len 4294967295
Jan 19 12:56:31 bermuda nfsd[6100]: non-standard errno: 14 (Bad address) 

I am using the following package versions:

ii  netbase 3.11-1 Basic TCP/IP networking binaries
ii  netstd  3.07-2hamm.2   Networking binaries and daemons for Linux

Any help or advice would be appreciated.

Matt
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Re: current slink

[Bob Nielsen]

I realize this is not conclusive, but I recently upgraded one of my
systems to slink with the latest libc6 2.0.7.19981211 without incident
(and subsequently to potato with only a minor problem (a missing
dependency in netbase) which was easily resolved.)

Bob

On Tue, 19 Jan 1999, Noah L. Meyerhans wrote:

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> I am thinking about upgrading my system (at least libc, apt, and things
> like that) to slink from hamm.  But I don't want to do it if slink is
> known to be broken at this point.  Was the glibc version problem of last
> week ever fixed?  Does the currently available libc satisfy the
> dependencies of all (or at least most) of the available packages?
> 
> Any comments on the current status of slink are appreciated.  I realize
> what it means to be running a frozen or unstable release.  I upgraded to
> hamm shortly before it was officially released, and things went smoothly.
> I'd like some comments from people currently running slink, though, before
> I upgrade to something that's known to be broken.
> 
> TIA,
> noah
> 
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Re: Debian/Caldera/RedHat

[Alexander N. Benner]

hi

Ship's Log, Lt. Jernej Zajc, Stardate 180199.2024:
> Hello,
> 
> how does Debian compare to the Caldera and RedHat distributions?
> Any comment from ppl that use/used COL and RH are most welcome:
> pros, cons, irritations, wishes.

I just used RH no COL but here my experiences:

Redhat was a bit easyer to install @1st, well maybe realy easyer, but now it's
harder to maintain. (I am the Admin of 2 RH boxes on campus)

- Redhat has only one big RPMS dir were everyone is (on there ftp-server) so
  you always have to read al several page long ls output
- the only other dir is then contrib/... were you have to go back several
  levels and search there again a list in equal length

- redhat has no admintool like dselect, not to mention apt which is already
  now pretty cool. You have a funky looking control-panel, which helps a lot
  in configurating the printer (that is a big point for RH) but what you cannot
  do is  saying "please update my system"

- Debian is in open devellopment, you can always look in the next (two)
  distributions and check for packages were you realy want to have the l8est
  stuff. So in debian you often get realy up2date packges which is sometimes
  realy handy (on campus vim and mutt is most of the time a selfcompiled
  version)

Greetings
  
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his promises.

only allow user to login from a specific IP

[Paul Miller]

How can I only allow user to login from a specific IP (telnet/ftp/etc)?

-Paul

Re: only allow user to login from a specific IP

[Andrew Ivanov]

> How can I only allow user to login from a specific IP (telnet/ftp/etc)?
> 
Modify the files /etc/hosts.allow and /etc/hosts.deny
THe format for them is in the man(5), I think
Andrew



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Re: help to make something work

[Luis Cabral]

Thank you for the responses.

About those:
- this is a experimental instalation, and 
  although I have little space on disk, I tried
  to install one application at time, so there was
  always at least 20-30 Mb free.
- in startup, the kernel says:
Intel Pentium with F0 0F bug - workaround enabled
- I tried installing Netscape as a normal user issuing
  the su command...

All these with no results.

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>Kent West wrote:
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>> >I downloaded Wordperfect 8 and, after many tries, I
>> >installed it successfully; but xwp says: Floating
>> >point fault.
>> >I installed also a CAD called SISCAD-P, and it says
>> >also: Floating point fault.
>> >I tried with other softwares (downloaded from the net)
>> >with similar results.
>> >
>> >You see, I wish use linux not for hacking, but as a
>> >stable desktop environment, and I do not wish spend hours
>> >editing config files and chmod-ing etc to make it work.
>> >
>> >Can anyone help me?
>> >
>> >Thank you
>> >Luis Cabral
>>
>> 200 MB is awfully small to run more than a basic system. Run the df command

>> and see if your partition is near 100% full (Capacity). That may be a clue.

>
>You're right. But apart from that I have the same problem with WPLinux8 
>(current

>version) running on a large enough partition (glibc and 2.034 / 
>2.2.0pre5Kernel)
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RE: only allow user to login from a specific IP

[Paul Miller]

I think that is only for denying/allowing specific hosts - I want to permit
a user to login from only a specific host.

-Paul

> How can I only allow user to login from a specific IP (telnet/ftp/etc)?
>
Modify the files /etc/hosts.allow and /etc/hosts.deny
THe format for them is in the man(5), I think
Andrew



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Re: Debian goes big business? [was: Re: Suggestion for RedHat (was: RH vs Debian)]

[Eric Gillespie, Jr.]

On Tue, 19 Jan 1999, Christian Lavoie wrote:

> I starting to think this whole mess started on a word understanding 
> problem. I wouldn't name such an organization a 'corporation', =P
> 

Since "corporation" is the legal term for the type of entity I am
describing, I don't see what's wrong with calling it a democratic
corporation.

> Nope. But it does indeed sounds real good. How can we do so?
> 

An interesting question. The first step is (obviously) to convince enough
people. Especially the developers' we've been talking about. Surely they
have opinions?

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