Re: Adaptec SCSI Controller?

[SEGV]

Evan Van Dyke wrote:
> 
> The 2.0.xx kernels won't support the 2940U2W by default, but if you
> patch in the newer version of the aic7xxx drivers then it will.
> I have a SCSI controller based on the AIC7890 chip(same as the 2940U2W)
> and it works fine.  Alternatevly, if you install the latest 2.1.x kernel
> (2.1.128) the aic7xxx driver is already updated.
> 
> --Evan

Sounds great. I'm running 2.1.125 now, so a latest recompile when my new
hardware arrives should do the trick then. I always get my kernels straight from
the source.

Some web research reveals the Quantum Viking II series to be a moderate
performer, but a bargain at the price. So it's still my main choice.

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Lilo.conf

[Andrew Ivanov]

Hello all.
I am trying to write my lilo.conf file, since when I was installing Linux,
I decided not to use Lilo, and just boot it from a floppy.
Right now I need to make use of Lilo, so here is my problem:
I got 2 IDE HD's , C and D, hda and hdb respectively

C contains win95
D has a small 20M DOS partition, hdb1, and the rest,
about 480M, is a linux partition, hdb2 and hdb4.

I need to write lilo.conf so that I get a prompt of which OS I want to
load, and make Linux a default one.
I am currently going through all the documentation on the subject, but I
still would like to get some help from those who have done it already.

Any suggestions?

TIA, 
 Andrew

Re: Lilo.conf

[Marc Barnett]

On Sat, Nov 14, 1998 at 06:23:56PM -0600, Andrew Ivanov wrote:
> Hello all.
> I am trying to write my lilo.conf file, since when I was installing Linux,
> I decided not to use Lilo, and just boot it from a floppy.
> Right now I need to make use of Lilo, so here is my problem:
> I got 2 IDE HD's , C and D, hda and hdb respectively
> 
> C contains win95
> D has a small 20M DOS partition, hdb1, and the rest,
> about 480M, is a linux partition, hdb2 and hdb4.
> 
> I need to write lilo.conf so that I get a prompt of which OS I want to
> load, and make Linux a default one.
> I am currently going through all the documentation on the subject, but I
> still would like to get some help from those who have done it already.
> 

Try this:

boot = /dev/hda
root = /dev/hdb2
install=/boot/boot.b
map=/boot/map
vga = normal
delay = 50
ramdisk = 0

read-only
default=linux

image = /boot/vmlinuz
  label = debian
  alias = linux
image = /boot/vmlinuz.backup
  label = backup
other = /dev/hda1
  label = win
  table = /dev/hda

This overwrites DOS's boot loader. The documentation (still) suggests to let
DOS load lilo, but I've never had a bit of problem.

installation on older Toshiba laptop?

[Dan Williams]

I am starting to look into installing Linux on an old Toshiba 4400C
laptop.  I have the InfoMagic CDs, but no CD rom on the laptop but I've
got one on my desktop and can make floppies.  

So any particular things to keep in mind in attempting this?  Is it
possible to install linux on this at all?

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Re: X: exec of /usr/bin/X11/ failed

[Adam Shand]

> /usr/bin/X11 is a directory - no wonder it won't exec.

doh.  yeah, silly me.  it didn't occur to me for some reason that the
problem would be that simple.  heh heh...

> I got this when upgrading too.  Somewhere along the upgrade I was
> asked if I wanted to change the xserver to something, and said yes. It
> messed up somehow and set the default xserver to " "

yep same here.

> You can probably fix it a lot faster by deinstalling your favourite
> xserver package and reinstalling it.  Or even better - just change the
> default to the server you want to use.  I don't know how to do that
> though.

i tried that several times and it didn't seem to help...

> By the way, why do you want to change from s3v to svga?  I use s3v
> without problems, is svga faster or do you have a stability problem?

from recent talks here it seems that the s3v server stuff is being
incorporated into the svga server and that the support is better.  this
all came to light when i tried to install star office 5 and my machine
locked up.  people using the same hardware as me said that it wasn't
happening with the svga server.

it appears that star office has a patch on their site to fix this problem
(good for them) but unfornately the file it points to is currently
missing (bad for them).  so i'm still waiting to print out my word file :(

thanks,

adam.

Re: X: exec of /usr/bin/X11/ failed

[Adam Shand]

> set it to '/usr/bin/X11/XF86_S3V' after you hav installed the server
> and it should work.

that helps a lot thanks.  one question it appears that the debian setup
actually has a wrapper installed for security reasons so that you aren't
supposed to run them directly.

do you know, is the Xserver file what the wrapper uses to determine what
to exec?  or does this mean that i'm exec'ing the s3v server directly.

thanks for the help,

adam.

A new Debian user's initial questions

[Chris Mayes]

Hello, everyone.  While I am not particualrly new to Linux in general
(June '98 RH 5.0/1, SuSE 5.2/3), i am totally new to Debian.  As such, I
have a few questons.

My frst question actually pertains more to System Commander than Debian
itself, though it's involved ;-)  Here it is: when I modify lilo.conf and
run lilo, all goes smoothly:

added:
   Linux *
   suse

or its equivalent.  However, when I reboot and select the root partition,
it still boots directly into Deban, as if I hadn't changed the
configuration.  Here's my lilo.conf:

boot=/dev/hda2
install=/boot/boot.b
map=/boot/map
vga=normal
delay=20

image=/vmlinuz
root=/dev/hda2
label=Linux
read-only

image = /vmlinuz
root = /dev/hdd1
label = suse
read-only

It looks okay to me...  Anyway, on with the questions.

What's the easiest way to configure everything to use my HP DeskJet 520
printer properly?  I saw some printcap and DeskJet tool packages whiz by,
so I thought it might be okay.  Well, when I tried to print somethng, all
that happened was the carriage nailed itslef to the other end of the rail
witha loud thwack.  In fact, it continued to do that after every
power-off, even in the pereviously-working SuSE until I unplugged the
printer cable.  Related?  Possibly...

Finaaly, a question of inclusion.  I understand that Debian strictly
adheres to the GPL, so I was wondering about the exclusion of the U. of
Washington stuff (pine, pico, etc).  I rilly love pine, and I use pico
'cuz I'm used to it for quick file reads.  It's no bg deal, really.  Ther
are a ton of great mail readers and text editors (probably better than the
previous), I was just curious.  You can be certain that I will have more
questons, but I will leave y'all alone for now.  Thanks in advance!

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Re: A new Debian user's initial questions

[Antti-Juhani Kaijanaho]

On Sat, Nov 14, 1998 at 09:57:42PM -0500, Chris Mayes wrote:
> I understand that Debian strictly
> adheres to the GPL,

No.  Debian adheres strictly to the Debian Free Software Guidelines
(DFSG) [1], which allow other things than GPL, too.  For example, X is
not GPL but it is DFSG-free, so we include it.  The DFSG is the basis
of the Open Source definition and roughly equivalent with it.

> so I was wondering about the exclusion of the U. of Washington stuff
> (pine, pico, etc).

They are available in the non-free section.  They fail the DFSG,
because they don't allow modified binaries (IIRC).



Antti-Juhani

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Re: dselect (or apt) wish list

[Stefan Nobis]

Michael Beattie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Easy... as suggested, change the `apt-get clean && ...` line from
> /usr/lib/dpkg/methods/apt/install to something thus - `true && ...`

OK - i know how to change it now, but nevertheless i think the default 
should be to ask the user when something is to be deleted.

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Re: A new Debian user's initial questions

[Jim Foltz]

Welcome Chris,

On Sat, Nov 14, 1998 at 09:57:42PM -0500, Chris Mayes wrote:
> Hello, everyone.  While I am not particualrly new to Linux in general
> (June '98 RH 5.0/1, SuSE 5.2/3), i am totally new to Debian.  As such, I
> have a few questons.
> 
> My frst question actually pertains more to System Commander than Debian
> itself, though it's involved ;-)  Here it is: when I modify lilo.conf and
> run lilo, all goes smoothly:
> 
> added:
>Linux *
>suse
> 
> or its equivalent.  However, when I reboot and select the root partition,
> it still boots directly into Deban, as if I hadn't changed the
> configuration.  Here's my lilo.conf:

What do you want it to do? The first image section will be the default image
to load, unless you use the 'default' parameter. Prss the shift key when you
see the boot: prompt, then press the tab key to see what images are
available.  

> 
> boot=/dev/hda2
> install=/boot/boot.b
> map=/boot/map
> vga=normal
> delay=20
> 
> image=/vmlinuz
> root=/dev/hda2
> label=Linux
> read-only
> 
> image = /vmlinuz
> root = /dev/hdd1
> label = suse
> read-only
> 
> It looks okay to me...  Anyway, on with the questions.
> 
> What's the easiest way to configure everything to use my HP DeskJet 520
> printer properly?  I saw some printcap and DeskJet tool packages whiz by,
> so I thought it might be okay.  Well, when I tried to print somethng, all
> that happened was the carriage nailed itslef to the other end of the rail
> witha loud thwack.  In fact, it continued to do that after every
> power-off, even in the pereviously-working SuSE until I unplugged the
> printer cable.  Related?  Possibly...

Try the magicfilter package. 

> 
> Finaaly, a question of inclusion.  I understand that Debian strictly
> adheres to the GPL, so I was wondering about the exclusion of the U. of
> Washington stuff (pine, pico, etc).  I rilly love pine, and I use pico
> 'cuz I'm used to it for quick file reads.  It's no bg deal, really.  Ther
> are a ton of great mail readers and text editors (probably better than the
> previous), I was just curious.  You can be certain that I will have more
> questons, but I will leave y'all alone for now.  Thanks in advance!

Pine is available as source code only. You can get the pine package and
compile it yourself, it's quite simple. Then you just install the .deb's
yourself with dpkg.

> 
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dpkg "Packages.gz: not a plain file" error?

[Randy Edwards]

I'm tracking slink and have a local mirror of it.  However, when upgrading a
machine on my local network with the latest apt, I get the following error
message:

Get ftp://ftp.golgotha.net slink/contrib Packages
Error ftp://ftp.golgotha.net slink/contrib Packages
 550 /pub/debian/debian-non-US/dists/slink/contrib/binary-i386/Packages.gz:
not a plain file. 

   Well, I'd hate to disagree with apt ;-), but the Packages.gz file is a
regular file and the filesize and permissions match exactly with what's on the
ftp site.  This happens on main, non-free, and contrib.  To make things more
interesting, if I run apt from the machine where the local mirror is, it has
no problems at all.  And I can use the FTP method fine -- just not apt.

   Anyone have a clue of what's going on?  My entry in /etc/apt/sources.list
for the above reads:
deb ftp://ftp.golgotha.net/pub/debian slink main contrib non-free

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kernel 2.1.128 & sound

[Paul McDermott]

Hello everyone, I just got kernel 2.1.128 up and running.  I am loading
sound as a module.  When I try to cat something to the device I get this
error message:

[paul:~/multimedia/next-gen]$ cat youronbd.au > /dev/audio
bash: /dev/audio: Operation not supported by device

tail of /var/log/kern.log shows:
Nov 14 23:09:48 data kernel: Soundblaster audio driver Copyright (C) by
Hannu Savolainen 1993-1996
Nov 14 23:09:48 data kernel: sb: dsp reset failed.


lsmod shows:
Module  Size  Used by
uart401 5696   0
sound  58064   0  (autoclean) [uart401]
soundcore   2120   3  (autoclean) [sound]
 
I know that sb.o is not loaded.  If I try to load it it say the the device
or resource is busy.

I took a look at the modules.def file and saw this:
/lib/modules/2.1.128/misc/sb.o: /lib/modules/2.1.128/misc/soundcore.o
/lib/modules/2.1.128/misc/uart401.o /lib/modules/2.1.128/misc/sound.o

Can somone tell me what is going on.  I would really appriciate any
insight in to this particular problem.
Paul

X and KDE

[ds]

I got my server up and running 
with xserver-svga.  Then I
decided to add KDE as a 
X-Windows manager.  Now I've
got it all messed up.  
There were multiple problems in
installing KDE, but I finally 
got it installed, but I can not
find the startkde script on the 
system any place.  Also,
when I check my directory, 
there is no .xinitrc file either.
 
Any one have an idea what went 
wrong?  I installed the
KDE files from the hamm dists, 
then went to KDE and
installed the 980701 
version.
 
Thanks
 
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Re: system hang on boot

[Oleg Krivosheev]

   Date: Sat, 14 Nov 1998 12:14:43 +0800
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   hi all !
 I 81Mb of RAM but had no idea that i was using only the 64Mb of it until 
that

81?

that's 81*10^6 bytes or so, but only 80M

   post by Mark Phillips.  Anyway, i added the 'append' line to my 
/etc/lilo.conf
   then run #lilo ... 
 When i tried restarting my box it would completely halt/hang at the part 
where
   Linux does partition checks on hda 1, 2 & 3 ... 
 Heres part of my lilo.conf.  I'd really appreciate it if there's someone 
who
   can tell me what i did wrong here ...

   #Start Linux bootable partition
image = /vmlinuz
  root = /dev/hda3
  append = "mem=81M" #this is what i added

put here 80M

  label = Linux
  read-only
   #End Linux bootable partition

   Sib

OK

Re: Installtion of xserver for debian 2.0

[Oleg Krivosheev]

   Date: Sat, 14 Nov 1998 10:52:14 -0800 (PST)
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   I have installed debian 2.0, but having problems installing X Window 
   system.

   I have i740 vedio card, and it is VGA compatible. I think server for 
   i740 chipset is still not avaible for Debian, so i selected Unsupported 

i740 bin only server is on www.redhat.com

OK

lowmem install

[wtb]

 Two general areas of puzzlement related to lowmem debian installation:  
 After the keyboard config during the installation vi was called
 to amend fstab to add /dev/hda3 none swap sw 0 0 .   All went well and
 fstab looked properly modified but then I could not get out of vi and
 back to the shell prompt to go on with mkswap and swapon.  :q and :wq
 could not be used  esc did not seem to change modes of vi???   
 What is the proper sequence of vi commands to save the latest changes
 and return to the shell prompt??
Having failed at fixing the swap partition problem I went ahead
 and installed without a swap partition.  Went all the way through the
 making of a boot disk and arrived at "no mail" and a # prompt.  Various
 attempts at using vi to fix fstab and to call mkawap and swapon
 resulted in: bash: fork: Cannot allocate memory.
# cat bash resulted in:
 :cat:error inloading shared libraries
 libc.so.6:failed to map segment from shared object: Cannot
 allocate  memory
# /sbin/halt resulted in bash:fork:cannot allocate memory and then
 automatically called /sbin shutdown:error in loading shared
 libraries libc.so.6:cannot map zero-fill pages:cannot allocate
 memory. 
Has anyone been able to install the lowmem version of debian
 linux on a 386 with 4meg ram??  If so, what procedure was used.
 Is there no hope of adding a swap partition after installation??
How can I get the man pages before I have linux installed??
Guidance will be appreciated. [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Starting out trouble

[Jiri Baum]

Hello Bill <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,

>  The program xdm says it's loaded, but there is no gui visible, just the
> prompt. Perhaps I misunderstood what xdm is, at least I have a prompt. I

You can have the computer start with either the text prompt or xdm
even if you have both installed. This is set by changing the
runlevel, but don't do it until you have X running from startx.

> tried startx and it said no such file or directory. Whatever, I'll
> eventually figure it out.

Then some other bits of X are missing. startx should come with the
xbase package (at least in hamm, ie Debian 2.0). You'll also need one 
of the xserver- packages (depending on what video card you have).


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Re: A new Debian user's initial questions

[Michael Beattie]

On Sat, 14 Nov 1998, Chris Mayes wrote:

> Hello, everyone.  While I am not particualrly new to Linux in general
> (June '98 RH 5.0/1, SuSE 5.2/3), i am totally new to Debian.  As such, I
> have a few questons.
> 
> My frst question actually pertains more to System Commander than Debian
> itself, though it's involved ;-)  Here it is: when I modify lilo.conf and
> run lilo, all goes smoothly:
> 
> added:
>Linux *
>suse
> 
> or its equivalent.  However, when I reboot and select the root partition,
> it still boots directly into Deban, as if I hadn't changed the
> configuration.  Here's my lilo.conf:
> 
> boot=/dev/hda2
> install=/boot/boot.b
> map=/boot/map
> vga=normal
> delay=20
> 
> image=/vmlinuz
> root=/dev/hda2
> label=Linux
> read-only
> 
> image = /vmlinuz
> root = /dev/hdd1
> label = suse
> read-only
> 
> It looks okay to me...  Anyway, on with the questions.


I think you are trying to start suse with your debian kernel. what you
should do, is mount the suse partition, and have
'image = /suse_root/vmlinuz' in the suse section.

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Re: No manual entry for lpc

[Alan Tam]

Hi Vernon,

Thanks for you hints. I've solved my problems now.
I issued the command dpkg -C to check for broken packages. Yes, it is.
There are a few incomplete installations. So I reinstalled the system and now
all the man lpc, lpd, lpq, lpr and printcap pages works fine.

Thank you.
Alan Tam

"M.C. Vernon" wrote:

> On Sat, 14 Nov 1998, Alan Tam wrote:
>
> > Hi all,
> > I am trying to read the manual pages on printer concerned
> > commands.
> > I have installed man-db and  lpr package from Debian
> > distribution.
> > Typing ls /usr/man /man1/lpc.1.gz as root the file is there, but when I
> > type
> > man lpc it responded with No manual entry for lpc. Why is it ? Any ideas
> > ?
> > Same as lpd, lpr, lpq etc...
>
> Something is broken. These should all be in section 8.
>
> Matthew
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Re: Can't start windowmaker

[Torsten Hilbrich]

On: Sat, 14 Nov 1998 01:24:36 -0500 Mario Bertrand writes:
> 
> Hi,
> I can't start windowmaker from login with startx command, it open a
> few seconds and then it crash. All other WM are ok. Is there
> something missing?

You should start a plain X11 (e.g., with a single xterm in .xinitrc)
and call wmaker manually.  You will probably get an error message,
please tell us this message including the output of "ldd
/usr/X11R6/bin/wmaker" and "dpkg -l wmaker".

Torsten

BTW: Current wmaker package is 0.20.2-1.

Re: SMP

[Rainer Clasen]

Hi!

[EMAIL PROTECTED] ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
> The motherboard is an AMI Titan 3 - w/ two 166MHz Pentums - 64MB RAM.
> Here's what I know:

> Linux version 2.1.123 ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) (gcc version 2.7.2.3) #3 SMP Fri 
> Oct 16 10:22:12 EDT 1998
> oSo I know I've got SMP support compiled in...

Hmm, IIRC a friend of mine had an option in his Gigabyte BIOS to switch of
SMP support in a way. Maybe this board has this, too? 


Rainer

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Re: X: exec of /usr/bin/X11/ failed

[Mika Fischer]

Hi, Adam!

On Sat, Nov 14, 1998 at 05:23:22PM -0900, Adam Shand wrote:

> one question it appears that the debian setup
> actually has a wrapper installed for security reasons so that you aren't
> supposed to run them directly.
> 
> do you know, is the Xserver file what the wrapper uses to determine what
> to exec?  or does this mean that i'm exec'ing the s3v server directly.

I think what you search is /usr/doc/X11/README.Debain

You can find there:
  
* The X server to be used by default is not selected by changing a
symlink.
Instead a small wrapper program (/usr/X11R6/bin/X) reads a
configuration
file (/etc/X11/Xserver) to find out which server to run and who is
allowed to run it.
 
I hope this helps.

Regards
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Communicator4.5

[Marcus Geiger]

Hi,

I want install the communicator 4.5 package(s) from the slink
distribution. I found out that:
communicator-base-45
 |-depends on: netscape-base-45
|-depends on: netscape-base-4
So far so good, but I cannot find the netscape-base-4 package. Is the
name mispselled or what I am doing wrong ?

Please Help

Marcus

More questions (hardware-related)

[Chris Mayes]

Hi, all.  Okay, I am having serious troubles with my printer, now.  The
first time I ran Debian and it probed lp1, my printer proceeded to "test"
itself by slamming the cartridge carriage against the far side of the
track.  After many tries, I finally got it behaving again by pulling the
printer cable from the back of the printer.  I printed a couple of things
in SuSE just fine.  When I rebooted into Debian again, the same thing
happened.  Now, however, no amount of fiddling seems to make a difference.
I don't know what the probe did, but now each probe from any OS (SuSE,
Debian, Win95) results in the same horrible crash and grinding noise as my
printer punishes itself.  It's an HP 520, BTW.  I don't know if it's an
unfortunate coincidence of a hardware failure at the same time of the
installation of a new distro or something different in the wat Debian
probes the lp1 port, but my printer is not operational ATM, which is bad.

I'll go reply to the lilo post, now ;-)  TIA!

-Chris 

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Re: A new Debian user's initial questions

[Chris Mayes]

On Sun, 15 Nov 1998, Michael Beattie wrote:
> 
> I think you are trying to start suse with your debian kernel. what you
> should do, is mount the suse partition, and have
> 'image = /suse_root/vmlinuz' in the suse section.
> 
Ah, so I need to tell it which mount point on the Debian kerel contains
the SuSE kernel?  I thought that specifying the root partition (root =
/dev/hdd1) would have been sufficient.  I haven't actually (successfully)
set up my own lilo.conf, I don't believe.  The config programs have been
babying me ;-)  I'll give it a try when I get home.  Thanks!

-Chris

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more X in slink stuff...

[Zack Brown]

I'm using slink. When I run startx, I get the following errors:

xauth: error in loading shared libraries
libXmu.so.6: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
xauth: error in loading shared libraries
libXmu.so.6: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
xinit: error in loading shared libraries
libXmu.so.6: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory

Aside from the fact that X is broken in slink, is there any way around this?
What deb file is the libXmu.so.6 library available?

Zack

problems after upgrading libc6

[lead]

hi debians

i´ve got a problem after upgrading hamm-libc to 2.0.7u-4:

i installed libc6_2.0.7u-4 manually which is required by staroffice 5
but after upgrading my apt (0.1.6) couldn´t install anything further
it says:

Checking system integrity...dependency error
You might want to run apt-get -f install' to correct these.
Sorry, but the following packages are broken - this means they have unmet
dependencies:
  apt: Depends:libc6
  
and apt-get -f install want´s to downgrade libc6 back to hamm´s version
and with this so5 won´t run

i´ve tried to install so5 on my notebook which is already upgraded to slink
-- and there are no problems except memory problems (so5 is overkill on a 
little slight notebook especially with 16mb ram ,-)

do i have to install slink´s version of apt (0.1.7) or did i miss any library?
or - which isn´t common in the moment - upgrade my pc to slink, too?

any hint is welcome;)

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How to make your kernel detect >64MB RAM

[Torsten Landschoff]

On Sat, Nov 14, 1998 at 12:31:40PM +1030, Mark Phillips wrote:
> Hi,

Hi Mark!

> My friend's laptop has 96M of RAM installed.  When it boots, it has a
> message saying that 96M is installed and BIOS setup shows the same thing,
> but when I run "free" under Debian it comes up with:
> 
> # free
>  total   used   free sharedbuffers cached
> Mem: 63384  61728   1656  25776  30420  16084
> -/+ buffers/cache:  15224  48160
> Swap:64508344  64164

My suggestion: Get a 2.0.36(pre)-Kernel! It has a patch to detect memory using
a new BIOS-Call which support more than 64MB. 

cu
Torsten


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Re: Bad primary partition

[Torsten Landschoff]

Hi Richard, 

On Fri, Nov 13, 1998 at 02:34:35PM -0500, Richard Hall wrote:
> After doing a low-level format of the hard drive and running a
> verification check without complaint, I am unable to install Debain
> because when the installation program runs fdisk to set up the swap
> partition, it immediately chokes, saying "FATAL ERROR: Bad primary
> partition".  I can't believe that the hard drive is bad, as it worked fine
> under NT before the formatting, and the SCSI disk utilities detect no
> problems.  What can I do?

Uhm, I had a similar problem with a new computer a few days before. I
installed Linux over a Windows-System. After I was ready an rebooted the BIOS
told me "there are no bootable partition on hdd... - unable to boot".

Genius! I had to toggle the bootable flag of the Linux partition. Perhaps your
BIOS thinks the partition is bad because it is not flagged as bootable?

Just an idea...

Tell me if it works!

cu
Torsten


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Re: SMP

[Torsten Landschoff]

On Fri, Nov 13, 1998 at 08:12:41PM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Howdy All!!

Hi Chuck!

> >From /proc/version:
> Linux version 2.1.123 ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) (gcc version 2.7.2.3) #3 SMP Fri 
> Oct 16 10:22:12 EDT 1998
> oSo I know I've got SMP support compiled in...
> 
> Yet /proc/cpuinfo sure makes it look like I only have one CPU spinning...!?

Uhm, would you mind posting the dmesg-Output (after a boot)?

BTW: Is there a copy of the boot-messages saved by startup in Debian? I was
just searching for something like that and did not find anything...

cu
Torsten



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Re: Can't start windowmaker

[Sourcerer]

> On: Sat, 14 Nov 1998 01:24:36 -0500 Mario Bertrand writes:
> > 
> > Hi,
> > I can't start windowmaker from login with startx command, it open a
> > few seconds and then it crash. All other WM are ok. Is there
> > something missing?

I've seen this behavior in some versions. In others it crashes
only the first time it's called.  Do you have a GNUstep dir in
your home dir?


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Re: Need help with ppp conection.

[Michele Bini]

On Tue, Nov 10, 1998 at 10:06:00AM -0600, Lloyd Burris wrote:
> When ever I hook up to the internet from linux I seem to have trouble 
> connecting to websights, ftp, and news servers. Can anyone tell me how
> to tune up Linux for a faster connection. When I am in windows my
> system flys but in linux I am lucky to get a webpage to come up.

I need some more detail about how you set up your connection.
Also please send me the log you get (with plog -f).
If you have a noisy line you should reduce your MTU MRU values.

Re: Does Sound even work for Java-Linux?

[Michele Bini]

On Fri, Nov 13, 1998 at 10:24:12PM -0700, Chip Grandits wrote:
> P.S. Is ADPCM the super-evil microsoft format that no opensource enthusiast
> deigns to support?
> How come I can't find a single Linux app to play ADPCM WAV files?!

I know of two linux applications which are able to play ADPCM
compressed wavfiles: 
 - the SDL library (Gpl'd) 
 - xanim (non-free), available as a Debian package.

ide

[Rx]

Hello, my HD CHS=16838,255,63 is recognized by
my computer : 2,34,56 or something like that, which is very different 
from the original.

the BIOS  recognize it in the good way,
BUT the kernel doesn't.
and M$ Windozs recognize it in the good way too.

What could I do ?


thanks 


 
Xavier

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Re: Need help with ppp conection.

[Piotr Wachowiak]

> On Tue, Nov 10, 1998 at 10:06:00AM -0600, Lloyd Burris wrote:
> > When ever I hook up to the internet from linux I seem to have trouble 
> > connecting to websights, ftp, and news servers. Can anyone tell me how
> > to tune up Linux for a faster connection. When I am in windows my
> > system flys but in linux I am lucky to get a webpage to come up.
> 
> I need some more detail about how you set up your connection.
> Also please send me the log you get (with plog -f).
> If you have a noisy line you should reduce your MTU MRU values.

and check your kernel configuration - i think that some options in tcp/ip
networking can slow down connection /like filtering or accounting/
 - i am not sure about it
send your pppconfig or log - and i'll try to tell you what's wrong

 sorry if this message was not helpful
Piotr Wachowiak
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Re: ide

[Nuno Carvalho]

On Sun, 15 Nov 1998, Rx wrote:
> 
> Hello, my HD CHS=16838,255,63 is recognized by
> my computer : 2,34,56 or something like that, which is very different 
> from the original.
> 
> the BIOS  recognize it in the good way,
> BUT the kernel doesn't.
> and M$ Windozs recognize it in the good way too.
> 
> What could I do ?

 Nothing, i think! :-)
 Don't worry about that  linux show always with 255 cylinders and 64
sectors ... 

 Best regards,
   Nuno

AMD K6-2 kernel compile ?

[Marc van der Vossen]

Hi group readers,

I was wondering what CPU I should select for compiling the kernel. I have a
AMD K6-2 300MHz. Should I compile for a regular pentium, or do the newer
kernels have K6 as a selectable CPU ?

Wowie, just a bit of time and my PC won't have any Intel, nor Microshit on
it. ;-)))

TIA,

Marc van der Vossen,
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trn trouble on slink

[Zack Brown]

When I try to run trn, I get the following error:

---
Warning: Couldn't open /etc/news/whoami to determine hostname!

Caught an internal error--.newsrc restored
---

Zack

Re: lowmem install

[Pann McCuaig]

On Sat, Nov 14, 1998 at 11:28:20PM +, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> Has anyone been able to install the lowmem version of debian
>  linux on a 386 with 4meg ram??  If so, what procedure was used.
>  Is there no hope of adding a swap partition after installation??

The workaround is described at the URL in my sig. Look for "Low Memory
Intallation" under "Installing Debian GNU/Linux 2.0"

Luck,
Pann
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Re: Adaptec SCSI Controller?

[Robert Claeson]

Nathan E Norman wrote:

> IMO, Quantum SCSI drives suck.  I tolerate Adaptec and I really like IBM
> Ultrastar drives.

I second that. I have an Adaptec 3940UW board (essentially two 2940UW
cards in one) and two IBM Ultrastar 9ES 9.1 GB drives in the server.
They're excellent performers.

Re: dselect (or apt) wish list

[Robert Wilderspin]

On 10 Nov 98 21:51:40 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Zack Brown) wrote:
>[lots of ideas for dselect, which I snipped]

Some good ideas there, Zack.  A couple have already been done (the
skipping of installed packages and the selections-from-file ones), but
here's my wishlist for those that might care to listen.

I'd also like the option to have downloaded debs automatically copied
to a local "mirror".  It would take up a lot of space, but I'd like to
be able to keep perhaps the last two versions of each package
installed, so that a downgrade could be performed without having to
download the previous version again (assuming that one can find it).

Getting rid of that help screen when entering the select phase would
be good, as an option.

Hmm, how about an automatic method for downloading source packages,
recompiling them and repackaging for use in the install phase?  Useful
if you want to specify compiler options other than the defaults, read
from a config file.  Oh, and they'd want to be stored in that local
mirror first, of course!  Perhaps two source and two binary
directories is overdoing it somewhat...

Whilst I'm here, could someone please clarify for me exactly what the
"Installed size" field in dselect is measured in?  I think that it's
in kilobytes, but it would be strange to show it in a different format
to the download size with no explanation.


Rob Wilderspin
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Adaptect2940UW and Decchip21041 share the same interrupt

[Oz Dror]

Hi,

I have P1-MMX 200MHZ a Kingston network card based on 21041
and a scsi controller AHA2940UW.

Both share the same irq (11). Both are PnP. Is this a problem.
id So How can I fix it.

-thanks
Oz Dror
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slink gives errors installing gimp-manual_1.0.0-1.deb

[Zack Brown]

I've downloaded gimp-manual_1.0.0-1.deb three times, and each time it failed
to install due to errors. At least the last two time, the download gave the
same file, which leads me to believe it's not ftp corruption. Here's a
couple samples:

# dpkg -D1 -i gimp-manual_1.0.0-1.deb
(Reading database ... 48701 files and directories currently installed.)
Unpacking gimp-manual (from gimp-manual_1.0.0-1.deb) ...
D01: process_archive oldversionstatus=not installed conflictor=
dpkg-deb: subprocess paste killed by signal (Broken pipe)
dpkg: error processing gimp-manual_1.0.0-1.deb (--install):
 subprocess dpkg-deb --fsys-tarfile returned error exit status 2
Errors were encountered while processing:
 gimp-manual_1.0.0-1.deb

# dpkg -D2 -i gimp-manual_1.0.0-1.deb
D02: maintainer_script_new nonexistent preinst 
`/var/lib/dpkg/tmp.ci/preinst'
dpkg-deb: subprocess paste killed by signal (Broken pipe)
dpkg: error processing gimp-manual_1.0.0-1.deb (--install):
 subprocess dpkg-deb --fsys-tarfile returned error exit status 2
D02: maintainer_script_new nonexistent postrm `/var/lib/dpkg/tmp.ci/postrm'
Errors were encountered while processing:
 gimp-manual_1.0.0-1.deb

Zack

Re: kernel 2.1.128 & sound

[mwb]

On Sat, 14 Nov 1998, Paul McDermott wrote:

> Hello everyone, I just got kernel 2.1.128 up and running.  I am loading
> sound as a module.  When I try to cat something to the device I get this
> error message:
> 
> [paul:~/multimedia/next-gen]$ cat youronbd.au > /dev/audio
> bash: /dev/audio: Operation not supported by device
> 
> tail of /var/log/kern.log shows:
> Nov 14 23:09:48 data kernel: Soundblaster audio driver Copyright (C) by
> Hannu Savolainen 1993-1996
> Nov 14 23:09:48 data kernel: sb: dsp reset failed.
> 
> 
> lsmod shows:
> Module  Size  Used by
> uart401 5696   0
> sound  58064   0  (autoclean) [uart401]
> soundcore   2120   3  (autoclean) [sound]
>  
> I know that sb.o is not loaded.  If I try to load it it say the the device
> or resource is busy.
> 
You need to specify the options to sb

Here's what I use to get mine loaded (after running isapnp

insmod soundcore
insmod sound
insmod opl3
insmod uart401
insmod sb io=0x220 irq=5 dma=1 mpu_io=0x330
insmod adlib_card io=0x388


Mark
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Re: more X in slink stuff...

[Daniel Martin]

Zack Brown <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> I'm using slink. When I run startx, I get the following errors:
> 
> xauth: error in loading shared libraries
> libXmu.so.6: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
> xauth: error in loading shared libraries
> libXmu.so.6: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
> xinit: error in loading shared libraries
> libXmu.so.6: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
> 
> Aside from the fact that X is broken in slink, is there any way around this?
> What deb file is the libXmu.so.6 library available?

I think this may be another case of the two xlib6g 3.3.2.3a-7 packages
causing problems.  The basic story (as I understand it) is that there
was a broken xlib6g 3.3.2.3a-7 that got released accidentally -
although it was very soon replaced with a working one, some people got 
bitten by the bad one.

At least, I think that's what happened.  I've also heard things to the 
effect that the problem is caused by a bad pre- or post-rm script in
the -6 xlib6g.

In any case, go get xlib6g_3.3.2.3a-7.deb again from your local
mirror, make certain that it has md5sum
276d3782f9be91508241592902146e49.  Reinstall it and this error should
clear up.


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pcmcia cardmgr doing the right thing after resuming?

[Alan Su]

Hi-

i have a laptop here that does not see the pcmcia cards after
resuming.  basically, suspending the machine goes fine, and after
resuming, i can do most everything.  however, the network is not
there.  bouncing the card manager with '/etc/init.d/pcmcia restart'
gets things back to normal.  what am i missing here?  is there a
script that gets run on a resume where i can do this?  thanks...and be
gentle; this is my first attempt at a laptop installation.  =)

-alan

Problem installing jdk1.1.6

[Gernot Bauer]

I tried to install jdk1.1.6v4a-3.deb from the slink distribution to my
hamm-system but some errors occured:

mother# dpkg -i /home/gbauer/jdk1.1_1.1.6v4a-3.deb 
(Reading database ... 31523 files and directories currently installed.)
Preparing to replace jdk1.1 1.1.6v4a-3 (using
.../gbauer/jdk1.1_1.1.6v4a-3.deb) ...
Unpacking replacement jdk1.1 ...
Setting up jdk1.1 (1.1.6v4a-3) ...
Checking available versions of java, updating links in /etc/alternatives
...
(You may modify the symlinks there yourself if desired - see `man ln'.)
update-alternatives: slave link name /usr/man/man1/java.1.gz duplicated
dpkg: error processing jdk1.1 (--install):
 subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 2
Errors were encountered while processing:
 jdk1.1
mother# 

Could anybody tell me WHAT went wrong?

Thanx, Gernot
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emacs problems

[Matthew Vernon]

Dear all,

Getting emacs19 and emacs20 to coexist is still proving impossible
(and VM doesn't work with 20). I have emacs20 20-el and gnus installed,
but when I  try to install 19, I get the following:

Cannot open load file: /usr/share/emacs/site-lisp/custom-init.el

and then it fails. Sure enough this file doesn' exist :(

What can I do, please?

Thanks,

Matthew

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emacs -- (Not X) Hexl-mode C-M does not work

[Joseph Hartmann]

My "info" on emacs tells me after I do a M-x hexl-mode 
C-M-x should be the way to insert a character in hex.  Does C-M-x
mean Control m (or Control M) followed by an "x" ?  Control-m or
Control M gives me a Carriage Return, not a prefix to a further
command.  This is emacs from the cheapbytes four-disk set of
debian; the emacs is version 19.34

Any suggestions will be appreciated.

joeh

Re: emacs -- (Not X) Hexl-mode C-M does not work

[Chris Mayes]

On Sun, 15 Nov 1998, Joseph Hartmann wrote:

> My "info" on emacs tells me after I do a M-x hexl-mode 
> C-M-x should be the way to insert a character in hex.  Does C-M-x
> mean Control m (or Control M) followed by an "x" ?  Control-m or
> Control M gives me a Carriage Return, not a prefix to a further
> command.  This is emacs from the cheapbytes four-disk set of
> debian; the emacs is version 19.34

The M-x is "Meta-x" or escape-x.  In order to access the meta functions
you type escape (alt might work too, IIRC) and x.  There are a _ton_ of
meta functions on emacs.  I use M-x compile for my C++ stuff all the time.
For a hoot, try M-x font-lock-mode.  That will bring up syntax
highlighting for whatever mode you might be in, assuming that mode
supports syntax highlighting.  Although emacs can usually guess what mode
it should be in by the extension, sometimes you need to tell it
specifically(i.e. .template is not detected as c++).  To do this, type M-x
-mode.  There's a tutorial in emacs that will walk you through
many of the major keybindings, btw.  I think it will appear automatically
if you bring up emacs with no arguments...  But I digress.  M-x is
escape-x.  Thank you.

-Chris

 
> Any suggestions will be appreciated.
> 
> joeh
> 
> 
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Re: StarOffice 5 - S3 fix available

[Will Lowe]

> Those of you who have an S3V video card might like to know that while
> looking at the StarDivision web site yesterday I notice they have posted
> a fix .. 
> 
> http://www.stardivision.com

Has anyone sucessfully gotten this patch?  If you visit the website,
click "Support" and then "Download",  you get a link for the patch to 
http://www.stardivision.com/download/support/patch1_01.tar.gz

but following this link gives a 404 file not found error.

Help!  I need the fix ...
Will


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Re: pcmcia cardmgr doing the right thing after resuming?

[Jean Pierre LeJacq]

On Sun, 15 Nov 1998, Alan Su wrote:

> i have a laptop here that does not see the pcmcia cards after
> resuming.  basically, suspending the machine goes fine, and after
> resuming, i can do most everything.  however, the network is not
> there.  bouncing the card manager with '/etc/init.d/pcmcia restart'
> gets things back to normal.  what am i missing here?  is there a
> script that gets run on a resume where i can do this?  thanks...and be
> gentle; this is my first attempt at a laptop installation.  =)

Is your kernel configured with APM?  Even if it is, your laptop may be
nonstandard or doesn't implement the apm standard at all.

Supposedly, the pcmcia package should work properly with apm.
However, there are enough broken apm laptops that I notice that the
pcmcia maintainers have added hooks to the latest release.  These are
scripts that get invoked on resume.

Try downloading the latest debian pcmcia package and read the
documentation.

-- 
Jean Pierre

Re: emacs -- (Not X) Hexl-mode C-M does not work

[Joseph Hartmann]

 Date: Sun, 15 Nov 1998 15:19:11 -0500 (EST)
 From: Chris Mayes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
 cc: debian-user@lists.debian.org
 MIME-Version: 1.0
 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII

 On Sun, 15 Nov 1998, Joseph Hartmann wrote:

 > My "info" on emacs tells me after I do a M-x hexl-mode 
 > C-M-x should be the way to insert a character in hex.  Does C-M-x
 > mean Control m (or Control M) followed by an "x" ?  Control-m or
 > Control M gives me a Carriage Return, not a prefix to a further
 > command.  This is emacs from the cheapbytes four-disk set of
 > debian; the emacs is version 19.34

 The M-x is "Meta-x" or escape-x.  In order to access the meta functions
 you type escape (alt might work too, IIRC) and x.  There are a _ton_ of
 meta functions on emacs.  I use M-x compile for my C++ stuff all the 
time.
 For a hoot, try M-x font-lock-mode.  That will bring up syntax
 highlighting for whatever mode you might be in, assuming that mode
 supports syntax highlighting.  Although emacs can usually guess what 
mode
 it should be in by the extension, sometimes you need to tell it
 specifically(i.e. .template is not detected as c++).  To do this, type 
M-x
 -mode.  There's a tutorial in emacs that will walk you 
through
 many of the major keybindings, btw.  I think it will appear 
automatically
 if you bring up emacs with no arguments...  But I digress.  M-x is
 escape-x.  Thank you.

 -Chris

Thank you for your discussion.  I am familiar with the M-x
meaning, but it is the C-m-x where I am stuck.  As soon as I type
C-m I get the same result as if i hit the  key.  Yet the
info on hexl mode indicates the command to edit "point" with a
hex value is C-m-x.

thanks for your input.

joeh

 > Any suggestions will be appreciated.
 > 
 > joeh
 > 
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AMD K6-2 kernel

[Marc van der Vossen]

Hi group,

Sorry if this appeared earlier, but I didn't see it within about 3 hours, so
I just posted it again.

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I was wondering what CPU I should select for compiling the kernel. I have a
AMD K6-2 300MHz. Should I compile for a regular pentium, or do the newer
kernels have K6 as a selectable CPU ?

Wowie, just a bit of time and my PC won't have any Intel, nor Microshit on
it. ;-)))

TIA,

Marc van der Vossen,
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Re: chrony sets your clock from the net

[Joachim Trinkwitz]

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> I have just uploaded chrony to unstable.  chrony is an 'atomic clock'
> package similar to xntp3 but easier to install and administer and more
> suitable for use with intermittent dialup connections.  If you have a
> dialup connection to the Net it should work out of the box with no
> configuration.

Are there any advantages over using `netdate' (part of the
netstd.deb)?

Greetings,
joachim

suggestion: transparent .deb files revealing logical structure

[Zack Brown]

Here's an idea.

Many packages have a logical structure in which certain parts of the
structure change nearly independently from other parts. I suggest breaking
these into independent .deb files, while having package managers like apt
and dselect optionally only be aware of them as single packages. That way we
don't have to be bombarded by lots of packages with virtually the same name
(packa, packa-doc, and so on), but at the same time it would allow package
maintainers to actually split their packages into even more little pieces,
according to the logical structure of their package. This would allow apt
and dselect to downloaded only the changed elements of a package.

So it would be a double winner: (1) since only the changed parts are
downloaded, the total download time is brought down. (2) Since apt (or
dselect) would ignore the multitude of .deb files, and only list the logical
packages by default, package listings would be a lot shorter and easier to
follow.

And of course, anyone who wanted to could just tell apt or dselect to show
all .debs regardless of logical connection. They could even have their own
internal dependencies, so we'd be able to choose which parts of a package we
wanted to install, without fear of unknowingly breaking the package.

Taking this a step further (although I haven't thought about this part of
the idea until now), it might be possible to layer this idea, so that
depending on an option given to apt (or dselect), more and more packages
could be logically linked, shortening the visible list of packages and
making it easier to choose what you want to install. At the most extreme,
this would result in something like what happens right before the debian
installation runs dselect: it asks if you want to choose an umbrella-type
set-up, including a lot of logically related packages. So this idea would
allow a finer grain control over that kind of thing.

As a further detail, it could be possible to specify that in general you
want to see a particular level of logical abstraction, but that for certain
packages you want to see a different level of logical abstraction, or even
the individual .deb files themselves.

I see a lot of ups but no downs for this idea. Am I missing something?

Zack

Screw it! (Printer recommendations)

[Chris Mayes]

Well, I've wrestled with the ol' HP 520 for the last time.  The problem
was that it would not see where it was supposed to stop, or so it would
seem as it would slam itself against the stop whenever I would run a check
on it.  Anyway, I tried cleaning the little plastic strip as thoroughly as
possible, stuck it back on, and *wham* Nothng changed.  So, I've decided
it's time to get a good(low-priced) laser printer.  So, who has
recommendations?  I'd like to stay below 400, around 300 if possible.  It
should work well under Linux (obviously) and BeOS(if possible).  Quality
is important, but I am a poor college student begging my parents for a
Chrstmas gift, remember ;-)  So, any/all recommendations welcome.  Thanks!

-Chris

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Re: installation on older Toshiba laptop?

[Alexander Kushnirenko]

Hi,

You may want to check "Linux on Laptop" page:
http://www.cs.utexas.edu/users/kharker/linux-laptop/

though you laptop is not listed explicitly, but there are close models.

Sasha.
> I am starting to look into installing Linux on an old Toshiba 4400C
> laptop.  I have the InfoMagic CDs, but no CD rom on the laptop but I've
> got one on my desktop and can make floppies.  
> 
> So any particular things to keep in mind in attempting this?  Is it
> possible to install linux on this at all?

Re: Screw it! (Printer recommendations)

[mwb]

On Sun, 15 Nov 1998, Chris Mayes wrote:

> possible, stuck it back on, and *wham* Nothng changed.  So, I've decided
> it's time to get a good(low-priced) laser printer.  So, who has
> recommendations?  I'd like to stay below 400, around 300 if possible.  It
> should work well under Linux (obviously) and BeOS(if possible).  Quality
> is important, but I am a poor college student begging my parents for a
> Chrstmas gift, remember ;-)  So, any/all recommendations welcome.  Thanks!

I've been looking for a printer for about 3 months.  Most of the posts
suggest that the HP Laserjet 6L is a good solution.  With that in mind,
I've been pricing them for about 3 months as well. the 6L is $399.  The
only place I've seen it cheaper is at Sam's club a couple of months ago,
for $385.  Fortunately for me, I found one someone return to Best Buy, and
it was knocked down to $340.  It works great.

Mark
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