Re: ppp analog bonding w/ eql

1998-06-27 Thread Lindsay Allen

On Fri, 26 Jun 1998, Hamish Moffatt wrote:

> My testing has been with 2.0.34 on both ends. Have you tried it on
> that version Lindsay?

Yes, fine on .34.
 
> On Thu, Jun 25, 1998 at 10:26:48PM -0700, George Bonser wrote:
> > ALso, maybe I am misunderstanding you but I thought that eql was only
> > designed for serial devices. Also note that both network interfaces need
> > the same IP address.  In other words, if you have two dialup connections,
> > they both need to be the SAME IP Address for EQL to work.
> 
> Hmmm. I got the impression that it should work on any link. They use
> plip as an example in the doco, I think. I did try it with the same IP
> on both links (a bit weird on ethernet but anyway) and didn't seem to 
> get anywhere further. I'll try again soon and check out the kernel list.

Hmm, I think they talk about slip rather than plip.  I would not have
dreampt of trying it with ethernet, but why not?

 
From: Marsh Ray <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

> The thing with eql is you need a linux box on both ends of the
> connections.  Our company put a linux box out at our ISP's site
> so we can use eql.  They're a small ISP and easy to work with.

Not correct.  Livingston Portmasters support eql.  My problem is that my
ISP has four PMs and as I dial in through a rotary it is pot luck as to
which box I get.  eql requires that all lines be to the same box and
that's where it gets difficult and expensive.  I now have FreeBSD 2.2.6
here and will try that. 

I followed up the altavista idea and found Michael Bruck's web page
http://mp.ins-coin.de/ but he has dropped the project due to lack of time.

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ppp over ssh?

1998-06-27 Thread Craig Sanders

anyone know how to get ppp to run over a ssh session?

i.e. i want to start pppd on one machine, and make it use ssh rather than
chat to initiate the connection.


i can get pppd to use "ssh -C -x -e none remote.host.name -l remoteuser"
instead of the usual 'chat' program.  after login, the remote host starts
pppd...that side of things is working fine.

the trouble is that pppd on this side is not attaching to the ssh
connectionreading the docs, there doesn't appear to be any way of
making it do so.



should i be setting up a named pipe or a socket or something to do this?

any ideas/clues would be appreciated.


thanks,


craig

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Re: ppp over ssh?

1998-06-27 Thread Ian Eure
On Sat, Jun 27, 1998 at 11:13:17AM +1000, Craig Sanders wrote:
> 
> anyone know how to get ppp to run over a ssh session?
> 
> i.e. i want to start pppd on one machine, and make it use ssh rather than
> chat to initiate the connection.
> 
> 
> i can get pppd to use "ssh -C -x -e none remote.host.name -l remoteuser"
> instead of the usual 'chat' program.  after login, the remote host starts
> pppd...that side of things is working fine.
> 
> the trouble is that pppd on this side is not attaching to the ssh
> connectionreading the docs, there doesn't appear to be any way of
> making it do so.
I think that you should look at ppptcp - it allows for ppp sessions over tcp
connections, with or without encryption. I don't remember where I picked it
up, I think it may have been on sunsite... The filename is ppptcp-0_5_tar.gz,
if you can't find it (with ftpsearch or some other such thing) then I can mail
a copy over.

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update system malfunctions

1998-06-27 Thread Alexander Gutfraind
Hello debian users!
my problem description is as follows:
I couldn't wait for the beta and the 2.00.34 kernel and the
fixed hamm packs that came with it.
so I installed the base system and 2.00.33, and started
DLding packages. "No", said dselect,
you need newer base system to run many of the packs. Ok, I
got a newer rescue, drivers, and
base2_0.tgz .  I've loaded the rescue disk and simply
selected the devices, installed the kernel
and the base and created a boot disk as was adviced (and
created a default boot manager).
On reboot, I got a nice "LI"
When I tried to use the boot disk after a reboot, it simply
took milenia to load (much longer than
it takes usually, and seemed to halt completely), so I had
to reset.
Now, I did the rescue process all over as before, used the
custom boot disk and real problems
began.
First of all, I was asked to set a root password. I tried
all the posible passwords, it agreed
and wrote them to disk! but then asked me to write another
one. I simply couldn't exit
passwd and started another VT,  I killed the original VT,
and from the new VT started passwd
and it worked.
After a reboot I discovered that the system logins
automatically as root!
But that's not all: Programs are missing files, sometimes
only minor like readme 's,
daemons are not loaded etc. looks like a filesystem failure.

What's my next move? Is it a bug? Is it something I did
wrong?
By the way, what is the passwords file?



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Re: memory usage and Netscape

1998-06-27 Thread Rick Macdonald
Mark Panzer wrote:

> www.netbuyer.com
> 
> I noticed the memory usage jump by about 5Meg when navigator was started
> and after just staring at the page for 5 min I noticed the memory usage
> was once again starting to increase.  Thanks for helping me out here.

OK, I see the exact same results. I have 256MB of swap (disk is cheap),
so I would never have noticed. Besides, I hate the constant rattling of
my hard drive when I leave such pages showing (I think the animated gifs
do this) so I always back out of them when I hear the disk activity.

I hit BACK, then FORWARD again, and see that it doesn't start climbing
right away. Maybe after awhile it would.

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kerberos 4

1998-06-27 Thread Tod Detre
ok I go the packages for kerberos 4, but when I try to install the user
one it complains that I don't have libcomerr2. I can't seem to find it
anywhere. Any ideas?

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Re: ppp over ssh?

1998-06-27 Thread Geoffrey D. Bennett
> anyone know how to get ppp to run over a ssh session?

I think the VPN mini-HOWTO describes how to get this running.

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help: ethernet doesn't work

1998-06-27 Thread Wimme
Yo all-

I already posted in the list about this, still didn't find the solution,
but now I've got more specs, so I hope someone can help.

Herez the prob: I have a 3Com Etherlink III (3c509) ISA card, static IP
and a cable modem. I can't seem to connect to the internet. Problem is
that my card is detected and configured correctly (without doubt) and even
runs fine, but I can't get on the net. I tried a Realtek PCI card, that
was detected and confed just fine as well, but didn't connect me either.
So it's not the HW.

When I ping my nameserver, none of the packets sent are returned. When I
ping myself, there's no problem. I can't ping ANYTHING except my own IP.
Nameservers are 134.58.127.1 and 134.58.126.3. The output of 'ifconfig
eth0' is the following:

eth0Link encap: Ethernet  HWaddr 00:60:97:27:6E:F1
inet addr: 10.64.0.18  bcast:10.64.15.255  mask: 255.255.240.0
UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST  MTU:1500  Metric:1
Rx packets:0  errors:0  droppped:0  overruns:0
Tx packets:0  errors:0  droppeed:0  overruns:0
Interrupt:10  Base address:0x300

This is the output of ifconfig run right after startup. The card and
settings work perfectly ok in Winnt 4.0 and Win95, so the settings are
correct. I furthermore have no access whatsoever to the 'net, not by
telnet, ftp, http...I used debian 2.0, FreeBSD and am now (as it was the
last install I performed) using redhat 5.1, but I plan to return to debian
asap. This only to illustrate that I have the same problem, no matter what
distributions (and modules) I choose...

I am really absolutely stumped about this, and just can't live with just
accepting that it won't work :) Is there anyone experiencing the same
problems, and especially someone who can help me out?

Thanks a thousand times for any help,
Wim



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Re: help: ethernet doesn't work

1998-06-27 Thread Nathan C. Burnett
Did you set up the routing properly?  If you don't have your gateway set
up correctly you won't get far.  Your service provider ought to have told
you a gateway (aka a router) to use.  

l8r, Nate

On Sat, 27 Jun 1998, Wimme wrote:

> Yo all-
> 
> I already posted in the list about this, still didn't find the solution,
> but now I've got more specs, so I hope someone can help.
> 
> Herez the prob: I have a 3Com Etherlink III (3c509) ISA card, static IP
> and a cable modem. I can't seem to connect to the internet. Problem is
> that my card is detected and configured correctly (without doubt) and even
> runs fine, but I can't get on the net. I tried a Realtek PCI card, that
> was detected and confed just fine as well, but didn't connect me either.
> So it's not the HW.
> 
> When I ping my nameserver, none of the packets sent are returned. When I
> ping myself, there's no problem. I can't ping ANYTHING except my own IP.
> Nameservers are 134.58.127.1 and 134.58.126.3. The output of 'ifconfig
> eth0' is the following:
> 
> eth0  Link encap: Ethernet  HWaddr 00:60:97:27:6E:F1
>   inet addr: 10.64.0.18  bcast:10.64.15.255  mask: 255.255.240.0
>   UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST  MTU:1500  Metric:1
>   Rx packets:0  errors:0  droppped:0  overruns:0
>   Tx packets:0  errors:0  droppeed:0  overruns:0
>   Interrupt:10  Base address:0x300
> 
> This is the output of ifconfig run right after startup. The card and
> settings work perfectly ok in Winnt 4.0 and Win95, so the settings are
> correct. I furthermore have no access whatsoever to the 'net, not by
> telnet, ftp, http...I used debian 2.0, FreeBSD and am now (as it was the
> last install I performed) using redhat 5.1, but I plan to return to debian
> asap. This only to illustrate that I have the same problem, no matter what
> distributions (and modules) I choose...
> 
> I am really absolutely stumped about this, and just can't live with just
> accepting that it won't work :) Is there anyone experiencing the same
> problems, and especially someone who can help me out?
> 
> Thanks a thousand times for any help,
> Wim
> 
> 
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PCI PNP was 56k Modems

1998-06-27 Thread Phil
The PCI modems are fairly new, be on the look out for sound cards
too(ISA will eventually disappear from new motherboards thus the PCI
versions).  I decided to go with this to free up a ISA slot... I only
have two, and one is ISA/PCI slot(shares the same case slot)!  There is
little doubt in my mind that Linux would support PCI modems, the only
real deference is the hardware-level protocol they use(unless it like
win hardware).  All that is needed is the PCI support, but then I run
into the problem with Plug and Play.  If linux doesn't support PCI PNP,
I can't find the card, let alone use it.  

If shouldn't be too hard to add support for.. As few additions to the
pnpdumb detection code, and isapnp implementation to make PCI card
exist. I'm definitely going to speak with Diamond about this(to check
for "special" or non-standard uart/driver implementations).

Philip Thiem  
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> 
> ISAPNP won't pick it up because ISAPNP only works for ISA card. Your card is 
> PCI. I've never heard of a PCI modem before. I can't say whether or not any 
> kernel supports or doesn't support it. The Hardware-HOWTO in my beta Hamm 
> system doesn't indicate any support for PCI modems. If the device still acts 
> like a 16550A UART then you can probably configure it just by getting the IO 
> and IRQ info and passing that to setserial. If it doesn't then kernel support 
> would have to be written.
> 
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Re: Debian T-shirt

1998-06-27 Thread Debian Mailing List
or a cool debian-baseball cap ..??  i am tired of seeing the damn redhat
cap all over the place ..




On Fri, 26 Jun 1998, Syed Huq wrote:

> Hi,
> Where can I buy a Debian T-shirt ??
> Syed.
> 
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help: ethernet doesn't work

1998-06-27 Thread ffrt
Hello all,

I apologize for any double-posting, but the mailings list server returned
an error. Therefor I hereby repost.

[REPOST]

Yo all-

I already posted in the list about this, still didn't find the solution,
but now I've got more specs, so I hope someone can help.

Herez the prob: I have a 3Com Etherlink III (3c509) ISA card, static IP and
a cable modem. I can't seem to connect to the internet. Problem is that my
card is detected and configured correctly (without doubt) and even runs
fine, but I can't get on the net. I tried a Realtek PCI card, that was
detected and confed just fine as well, but didn't connect me either. So
it's not the HW.

When I ping my nameserver, none of the packets sent are returned. When I
ping myself, there's no problem. I can't ping ANYTHING except my own IP.
Nameservers are 134.58.127.1 and 134.58.126.3. Default gateway is
10.64.15.254 The output of 'ifconfig eth0' is the following:

eth0Link encap: Ethernet  HWaddr 00:60:97:27:6E:F1
inet addr: 10.64.0.18  bcast:10.64.15.255  mask: 255.255.240.0
UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST  MTU:1500  Metric:1
Rx packets:0  errors:0  droppped:0  overruns:0
Tx packets:0  errors:0  droppeed:0  overruns:0
Interrupt:10  Base address:0x300

This is the output of ifconfig run right after startup. The card and
settings work perfectly ok in Winnt 4.0 and Win95, so the settings are
correct. I furthermore have no access whatsoever to the 'net, not by
telnet, ftp, http...I used debian 2.0, FreeBSD and am now (as it was the
last install I performed) using redhat 5.1, but I plan to return to debian
asap. This only to illustrate that I have the same problem, no matter what
distributions (and modules) I choose...

I am really absolutely stumped about this, and just can't live with just
accepting that it won't work :) Is there anyone experiencing the same
problems, and especially someone who can help me out?

Thanks a thousand times for any help,
Wim




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Re: Swapping Hard Drives on the fly

1998-06-27 Thread Damon Muller
Greets,

> If you wanted a hot-swappable setup, you might try setting up some sort of
> ramdisk root fs with the ide driver compiled as a module and all your
> important
> stuff (/usr, /var etc) mounted off your ide drive, you could then drop to
> single
> user mode, umount the ide devices, rmmod the driver and maybe have a chance.

Maybe I neglected to mention that it isn't actually the boot device. I
have /dev/hdc1 mounted as /usr/local/rem, set as 'noauto' in /etc/fstab,
so it's not as if it should actually be trying to read or write to it
anyway, should it?

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postgres intallation failed

1998-06-27 Thread Networking Wizard
After Shared PostgreSQL library intsallation (libpgsql 6.3.2-8)
i've been trying to inttall postgresql (6.3.2-8) severl times,
but i did not succeed; dpkg terminates because of unspecified errors.
Here is the log:

> Unpacking replacement postgresql ...
> Setting up postgresql (6.3.2-8) ...
> Now installing the PostgreSQL database files in /var/postgres/data
> su - postgres -c 
> PATH=/usr/uxs:/root/uxs:/root/bin:/sbin:/usr/sbin:/usr/local/sbin:/bin:/usr/bin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/X11R6/bin:/usr/lib/postgresql/bin:/usr/lib/postgresql/bin;
>  initdb -l /usr/lib/postgresql/lib -r /var/postgres/data -u postgres
> dpkg: error processing postgresql (--install):
>  subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 1
> Errors were encountered while processing:
>  postgresql

Shadow passwords have been installed on machine. Could this error be 
ascribed to shadow password for 'postgres' postmater account?
By the way, which password will be assigned to postmaster, during the
installation?

thank you for your help

Paolo Pumilia


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Where is Netscape?

1998-06-27 Thread Salvatore Sasegui
Hello!

I have now a connection to the Internet with Debian-Linux but in the 3 
CDs
I have from the Official Debian GNU/Linux I haven't Netscape, just an
installer and the only web browser I have now is Arena. 

Can anyone tell me where can I find Netscape for Linux? Thanks in 
advance.


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Re: wysiwyg gif animator for linux?

1998-06-27 Thread Frank Barknecht
Micha Feigin hat gesagt: // Micha Feigin wrote:

> Does there exist an interactive aplication to make gif animation
> (gif89a) for X. 

THE GIMP is very nice for gif-animations. Just put every frame in a seperate 
layer and save as an interlaced gif. For animated prviews I can recommend
xanim.
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Kernel version

1998-06-27 Thread Hank Fay
I notice that doing the "7 floppy + FTP" installation this week left me with
version 2.0.29-7, and the .30-7 and .33.3 source code is available in
dselect, as updated via FTP with ftp.debian.org.

1) is there reason to upgrade my Kernel?  (I mean, there are reasons for
upgrades, and since it isn't to get the public to buy a "new" version
...)

2) if so, how?  Is Section 10.1 in the Debian FAQ all (well, we'll see if
"all" applies ) that is required?  Will the modules (presumably now in a
wrong-named directory) work as-is?

TIA,

Hank Fay



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X-Window for 2.0beta

1998-06-27 Thread Alex Kwan
I have succeed to download and install the Debian 2.0 beta,
and now I want to install X-Window too, can I use the
X window packages on the debian 1.3.1R6 CD-ROM
(distributed by Cheapbytes), also do the other packages
on the 1.3.1R6 CD-ROM will working  well under 2.0 beta?

Alex Kwan


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Re: unstable networking

1998-06-27 Thread Miquel van Smoorenburg
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Jieyao <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>I wonder if anyone experiences the following.
>The system reboots ok. ifconfig and route are runand network set up. If
>you put a line in the boot up file with the command 'ifconfig' and
>'route' it shows that eth0 is up and the routing is set up.  But when
>you log in, the route is lost. If you run the command 'route' it will

You are probably running a routing daemon, such as "routed".
If you don't need it (and it looks like you don't), turn it off.
Comment it out in /etc/init.d/netstd_init.
BTW, it's turned off by default ..

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Re: How to install Debian?

1998-06-27 Thread Miquel van Smoorenburg
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Ian Eure <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>On Fri, Jun 26, 1998 at 09:46:28PM +0200, Stef Hoesli Wiederwald wrote:
>> Our Mailserver runs with Slackware. I want to change to Debian. The
>> problem is the following: There is no CD-ROM, no floppy disk and no
>> DOS installed. How can I install Debian from an existing ext2fs
>> Anybody done this before?
>I don't think anyone else is nearly psychotic enough. ;)

Okay, now I have to answer. I once upgraded our news server from a
home-brew distribution running a.out to Debian 1.1 running ELF without
rebooting .. it was up for a month when I did it and I only rebooted
it two months after the upgrade for a hardware upgrade :)

If you have the guts, what you can do is the following:

- Extract the base_2.0.tar.gz somewhere in /var/tempinstall or somesuch
  use tar --numeric-owner -xpvf base_2.0.tar.gz !
- Fix your password file to match /var/tempinstall/etc/passwd
- Group file too, ofcourse
- Then carefully copy everything from /var/tempinstall into the place
  it belongs. Start with copying the /lib stuff into place, try if the
  new binaries work, then copy the rest. Use "cp -a" to preserve all
  permissions and owners.
- /dev, /etc and /etc/init.d + /etc/rc?.d are tricky!

If everything went OK, now you have a base system installed on a running
system! You should now be able to use "dpkg" or even "dselect" to
upgrade the rest.

Then the work starts to remove all old slackware files from your system..
it might be a good idea to remove as much non-essential stuff beforehand.

Good luck!

Mike.
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Re: Samba: password for mapping network drives

1998-06-27 Thread Miquel van Smoorenburg
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Brian Morgan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>I'm running the nmbd and smbd Samba daemons, and having trouble mapping
>a network drive on my windows machine to any of my mounted drives.  I've
>tried the following ways of connecting using windows' map utility (i.e.
>in explorer):
>
>\\debian\hda#  (where # = appropriate drive partition)
>\\debian\usr (or \root, \var, or \usr)

Ofcourse, you need to define your "shares" (ugh) first in /etc/smb.conf
Samba, like most other programs, need to be configured first.

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Re: /etc/init.d/boot message?

1998-06-27 Thread Brederlow
Graham Lillico +44 1785 248131 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> I think It may be rather difficult to implement, as wouldn't it mean a program
> taking over the boot process and it would then be this program that controled
> the execution sequence of the init scripts.  Also how would you tell if the
> scripts had been executed sucsessfully?  Do they return a code or something on
> completion?

On my first though I wanted to make a pipe for the Menu. Programms and 
scripts then pipe their output  there and its then parsed, displayed
and saved. Programms and scripts would be required to be verbose in
some way, which shouldn't be to hard.

The I though about the hardware detection, which is quite a lot of
info. The rootfilesystem isn't mounted rw, so one can't create a
pipe. Also it isn't a script that could be redirected. One would need
some demon support in the kernel to handle pre-login output of the
kernel and that must display the menu, or the original input on error
and pass the output to the menu otherwise.

> But generally I would like to see something like this, writing the
> output from this program to a seperate log file might be an idea to.

I will have a look at printk, I think that would be the place to grab
the output.

> Good Luck
>  
> Graham
> 
> P.S. If you want any help please feel free to contact me.

I will take any help you can offer.

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Re: How do I get exim to work?

1998-06-27 Thread Jaakko Niemi
>> On Fri, 26 Jun 1998, Jaakko Niemi wrote:
>> 
>> >  Which version ? Hamm or bo ?
>> 
>> 1.3.1
>> 
>> >  Do you have a permanent connection or a dial-up ? 
>> dial-up.
>> 
>> 
>> >  How does exim.conf look ?
>> 
>> I re-installed exim to get exim.conf again.  I made some progress.  I do
>> not know what I did differently, but Pine would accept a message sent
>> locally, put it in the mailq, but eximon wouldn't see it, neither would
>> pine.

As root exim -bp shows the queue.

>> ---
>> [EMAIL PROTECTED](28)$ eximon &
>> [1] 821
>> [EMAIL PROTECTED](29)$ 
>> Exim Monitor version 1.23 (compiled 4-Mar-1997 15:28:01) initializing
>> *** eximon warning: can't open log file

 This is because you are running as user, and you do not have permissions
 to /var/log/exim. As the files are owned mail.mail add yourself to group mail
 and you should be able to run eximon right.

>> 
>> Exim Monitor running
>> 
>> 
>> Here is my exim.conf (I removed the commented lines):
>> -
>> qualify_domain = alpha.futurenet.co.za
>> local_domains = alpha.futurenet.co.za

 I have otherwise identical configuration, but this line:

local_domains = lonesom.pp.fi:lonesom.pp.fi

Besides Pine, have you tries any other MUAs, mail for ex. ? 

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Re: Raid controlers

1998-06-27 Thread Jaakko Niemi
>> What raid controlers are supported in linux? Is the adaptec AAA-130
>> series? I'm looking into buying one, so is there a reccomened choice?

 Adaptec has very recently opened up their policy, and we might see drivers
 for these cards in the future, but not yet. 

 DPT is supported for sure, and I think Mylex is also. Any 'external' adapters, 
that
 present themselves as large disk to the system are supported (don't need any
 special drivers). 

 If you have one or two spare scsi-cards and disks, you might want to try the
 software raid first. 

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xload in hamm

1998-06-27 Thread Chris
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Apparantly the xload utility has been taken out of xproc, but I can't
figure out where it went!  A file in usr doc mentions that XFree86 has a
version that is shipped with it, but this doesn't seem to be installed by
xbase.  Can someone tell me where to find it please?

Thanks,

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Re: kerberos 4

1998-06-27 Thread David Z. Maze

Tod Detre <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
TD> ok I go the packages for kerberos 4, but when I try to install the
TD> user one it complains that I don't have libcomerr2. I can't seem
TD> to find it anywhere. Any ideas?

e2fsprogs_1.10-17 Provides: libcomerr2.  Installing a current version
of the e2fsprogs package should satisfy the dependency.

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Re: postgres intallation failed

1998-06-27 Thread Oliver Elphick
Networking Wizard wrote:
  >After Shared PostgreSQL library intsallation (libpgsql 6.3.2-8)
  >i've been trying to inttall postgresql (6.3.2-8) severl times,
  >but i did not succeed; dpkg terminates because of unspecified errors.
  >Here is the log:
  >
  >> Unpacking replacement postgresql ...
  >> Setting up postgresql (6.3.2-8) ...
  >> Now installing the PostgreSQL database files in /var/postgres/data
  >> su - postgres -c PATH=/usr/uxs:/root/uxs:/root/bin:/sbin:/usr/sbin:/usr/lo
  >cal/sbin:/bin:/usr/bin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/X11R6/bin:/usr/lib/postgresql
  >/bin:/usr/lib/postgresql/bin; initdb -l /usr/lib/postgresql/lib -r /var/
  >postgres/data -u postgres
  >> dpkg: error processing postgresql (--install):
  >>  subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 1
  >> Errors were encountered while processing:
  >>  postgresql
  >
  >Shadow passwords have been installed on machine. Could this error be 
  >ascribed to shadow password for 'postgres' postmater account?

I don't think so.  I use shadow passwords and have no problem.

The current state of the package is that it is unpacked and should be present 
on your disk.  If you have never installed it before, it needs to create a
new database - this is the step it has failed on.  However, I see that
this was a 'replacement postgresql': had you created a database with
an earlier version? 

To find out what is going wrong with initdb:
Edit /usr/lib/postgresql/bin/initdb and add the line `set +x' after the 
first line.  Then become root and run the initialisation command (this
is all one line):

 su - postgres -c "PATH=$PATH:/usr/lib/postgresql/bin; initdb -l 
/usr/lib/postgresql/lib -r /var/postgres/data -u postgres"

It should now be possible to see where failure is occurring - please send
me the screen output.

  >By the way, which password will be assigned to postmaster, during the
  >installation?

If postgres is installed from base-passwd; it needs (I think) to be
enabled by assigning it a password.  If it does not exist when postgresql's
preinst script runs, it is created with `adduser --disabled-password'.  You
cannot log in as postgres until it is assigned a password (but root can still 
su to it.)

Oliver Elphick
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Re: Samba: password for mapping network drives

1998-06-27 Thread Jieyao
Hi,

If you are running your samba in an internal network like for my case (at home),
you can try commenting off  security = user 

Then you will not be prompt for password at all.

Any comment about this? Security?


> I'm running the nmbd and smbd Samba daemons, and having trouble 
mapping a
> network drive on my windows machine to any of my mounted drives.  I've
> tried the following ways of connecting using windows' map utility (i.e. in
> explorer):
> 
> \\debian\hda#  (where # = appropriate drive partition)
> \\debian\usr (or \root, \var, or \usr)
> 
> In either case, the map utility prompts me for a password to connect to
> these resources.  I've tried the root password, and all the passwords for
> individual users, but it always comes back and says, "the password is
> incorrect, please try again."  Is there another password that I'm not
> aware of that I need to be entering here, or another daemon I'm not yet
> running to be able to map a network drive in this way?  The man pages
> didn't provide as much help as I wished.
> 
> running hamm, 2.0.33 kernel\
> 
> Brian
> 
> PS:  apologies on posting that ZDnet article earlier.  In the future, I'll
> only post the address to such articles (if they're worth it). Thanks
> again, everyone for being patient with a newbie.
> 
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Re: unstable networking

1998-06-27 Thread Jieyao
> >I wonder if anyone experiences the following.
> >The system reboots ok. ifconfig and route are runand network set up. If
> >you put a line in the boot up file with the command 'ifconfig' and
> >'route' it shows that eth0 is up and the routing is set up.  But when you
> >log in, the route is lost. If you run the command 'route' it will
> 
> You are probably running a routing daemon, such as "routed".
> If you don't need it (and it looks like you don't), turn it off.
> Comment it out in /etc/init.d/netstd_init.
> BTW, it's turned off by default ..

If it is off by default I don't think I had turn it on.
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synchronizing console, xterm and rxvt using bash.

1998-06-27 Thread Alan Eugene Davis
A recent blow up with new xtide version not working as I expected led
to the revelation (should I have known?) that rxvt is not sourcing
/etc/profile.  This led to one of the environment variables being set
not as usually, and the program acted like it was broken, when it
wasn't (a tribute to Dave Flater: it hardly ever acts broken...).  

This leads me to believe that the flakiness of the x consoles I
use---rxvt and xterm---and have lived with is not tolerable, in two
ways: in the matter of not sourcing /etc/profile, and in the
variable behavior with bash keystrokes.
 
Ever since when, I have been bothered by that xterms and other X11
shells etc. don't really act like bash on the console.  Now as ever.
Although rxvt does the keys basically right, and under the right
circumstances (TM) can do readline, in some debian package releases.
Recently there seems to have been another change, but now I guess it's
"working".  

Xterm I cannot get to act normally in this way...  Bash readline,
etc., doesn't work at all.  Xterm is better in some other respects.
The bottom line is that these two windows, the best of the bunch as
far as I last determined (some time ago), don't work the same as a
console.  WHAT NEEDS TO BE DONE TO GET THESE TOOLS IN SYNC?

Where is rxvt getting its variables, and what needs to be done to
assure the rxvt sources /etc/profile?

Alan 

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1998-06-27 Thread Michael Beattie

Just been to look at mailing list archives, and I am impressed with the
Main page...

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which C compiler?

1998-06-27 Thread Alan Eugene Davis

I remember a few months ago, a certain compiler and C++ libraries were
recommended.  Since then there have been some changes.  Confusingly,
there sre at least two compilers and more than one C++ library in the
hamm distribution.  Which ones are recommended?  

Alan Davis


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Re: xload in hamm

1998-06-27 Thread d1temp

On 27 Jun, Chris wrote:

> Apparantly the xload utility has been taken out of xproc, but I can't
> figure out where it went!  A file in usr doc mentions that XFree86 has a
> version that is shipped with it, but this doesn't seem to be installed by
> xbase.  Can someone tell me where to find it please?

According to Larry and Joe's Debian Package Finder

Package: xcontrib
 Version: 3.3.1-2
 Maintainer: Mark W. Eichin
 Depends: libc6, xlib6g (>= 3.3-5)
 Filename: dists/frozen/main/binary-i386/x11/xcontrib_3.3.1-2.deb
 Description: XFree contributed clients. This package provides a
 selection of useful X clients, in particular ico, listres,
 showfont, viewres, xbiff, xcalc, xditview, xedit, xev, xeyes,
 xfontsel, xgc, xload, xman, and xmessage.

and there's also

Package: loadmeter
 Version: 1.0-6
 Maintainer: Gene McCulley
 Depends: libc6, xlib6g (>= 3.3-5)
 Filename: dists/frozen/main/binary-i386/utils/loadmeter_1.0-6.deb
 Description: attractive X11 load meter Loadmeter is an attractive
 X11 based system monitor. It uses less memory than xload. .


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Re: /etc/init.d/boot message?

1998-06-27 Thread Brederlow
Lindsay Allen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> On 25 Jun 1998, Brederlow wrote:
> 
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
> > 
> > > On 23 Jun, BARBELET Philippe wrote:
> > 
> > > But I think people want an exact list of the output that is generated
> > > after the kernel is done and the init scripts have started.  So this is
> > > not the 'complete' solution.
> 
> [snip]
> 
> 
> > Starting remote services . [failed]
> 
> A bit more info would be nice.  I for one would be quite happy just to
> have a record of what has been printed on the screen.

Your right, the detailed messages would go to a logfile and maybe to a
different console also.

On a normal startup nothing should fail and it looks much more
professional to have a nice menu the normal user can understand
instead of cryptic messages teling the experience that everything is
fine.

May the Source be with you.
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X-window for debian2.0beta

1998-06-27 Thread Alex Kwan
I have installed the base system of debian2.0beta,
and I want to setup X-Windows too,

(1) can I use the packages of X-window on the CD-ROM
 of debian 1.3.1R6 (distributed by Cheapbytes.)

(2) can I use the others applications' packages on the captioned
 CD-ROM.

Thanks


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Re: Where is Netscape?

1998-06-27 Thread Joerg Friedrich
On Sat, 27 Jun 1998, Salvatore Sasegui wrote:

>   Hello!
>   
>   I have now a connection to the Internet with Debian-Linux but in the 3 
> CDs
> I have from the Official Debian GNU/Linux I haven't Netscape, just an
> installer and the only web browser I have now is Arena. 
> 
>   Can anyone tell me where can I find Netscape for Linux? Thanks in 
> advance.
> 


Just get the netscape-package which is no debian-package!! (tar.gz)  from
your favorite NETSPAPE-mirror and put the netscape-package in /tmp

Then get the netscape installer (Debian-package) from your nearest
debian-mirror:

If you're using Debian 1.3: netscape3*.deb from dists/stable/contrib
if Debian 2.0beta: netscape3 or netscape4*.deb from
   dists/frozen/contrib/web

The only thing you have to do now is dpkg -i netscape*.deb




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Re: synchronizing console, xterm and rxvt using bash.

1998-06-27 Thread Joerg Friedrich
On Sat, 27 Jun 1998, Alan Eugene Davis wrote:

> console.  WHAT NEEDS TO BE DONE TO GET THESE TOOLS IN SYNC?
> 
> Where is rxvt getting its variables, and what needs to be done to
> assure the rxvt sources /etc/profile?

Neither xterm nor rxvt reads /etc/profile.

The difference is between login-shell and non-login-shell

If you log in at console bash starts as login-shell and reads
~/.bash_profile and /etc/profile.

xterm and rxvt call bash as non-login-shell. bash reads ~/.bashrc

you can either  'tell' xterm and rxvt to start bash as login-shell:

(you have to edit your window-manager-menu)

or you just copy everything in /etc/profile to your ~/.bashrc


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Re: X-window for debian2.0beta

1998-06-27 Thread aqy6633
> I have installed the base system of debian2.0beta,
> and I want to setup X-Windows too,
> 
> (1) can I use the packages of X-window on the CD-ROM
>  of debian 1.3.1R6 (distributed by Cheapbytes.)

Well, the answer to this question is not easy. Transition between 1.3 to 2.0
is assiciated with the changes of the c library, all the packages had to be
recompiled with new library. And though we have support for running old
binaries, huge packages like X could break.
You would be much better off downloading new X packages from ftp.debian.org

> (2) can I use the others applications' packages on the captioned
>  CD-ROM.

The same thing as before, not recommended, but some of them will run with no
problems whatsoever.

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Re: X-window for debian2.0beta

1998-06-27 Thread aqy6633
> Hi! Alex,
> Which directory of ftp.debian.org will contain the
> new X-window packages? I can't find it.
> what is the latest version?

The easiest way would be to use dselect ftp method and point it to
ftp.debian.org dists/hamm/main dists/hamm/contrib dists/hamm/non-free
(Even better is to download apt package from 
ftp://ftp.debian.org/debian/project/experimental/apt*.deb 
and then use "apt" method of dselect - WAY better).
Just in case you want to do everything "mannually" the new X packages
are in ftp://ftp.debian.org/debian/dists/hamm/main/binary-i386/x11/

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Upgrade problems..

1998-06-27 Thread Gregory Guthrie
I just did an upgrade bo --> hamm using autoup.sh.

Amazing. But, there are a number of steps which left me cold; and flipping
a coin for the right action.

1) during the autoup it had several "conflicts", adn it was not clear to me
if I needed to do anything about them. E.g. I think it tried to remove
something that depended on Perl, but I had perl installed, or something...
"dependency problems .. libwww-perl depends on Perl, but perl is not
installed.
  ...  libnet

Anyway, there was no clear indication if all was OK, if it was a comment,
or if some remedial action was needed (later).,

2) After update, it says "now use dselect to upgrade the rest of your
system", then reboot.

?? How do I know what to upgrade? I would like to say; "whatever needs an
upgrade, if I have it installed, do it."
Instead, I had to go through dselect, look at hundreds of packages, try to
remember which I had selected, and decide if they need update. Am I missing
something here?

3) I find a lot of small changes, logs moved from (non-existent) /var/adm,
pppd argument changes, ppp setup changes, etc.. is there a lost of the
changes, structural and functional?

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Re: Upgrade problems..

1998-06-27 Thread aqy6633
> 2) After update, it says "now use dselect to upgrade the rest of your
> system", then reboot.
> 
> ?? How do I know what to upgrade? I would like to say; "whatever needs an
> upgrade, if I have it installed, do it."
> Instead, I had to go through dselect, look at hundreds of packages, try to
> remember which I had selected, and decide if they need update. Am I missing
> something here?

Yes. Dselect will automatically mark the packages with newer version available
for upgrade. You may still look through them, and mark for removal the ones
you don't need to avoid extra time for download.

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Upgrade problems

1998-06-27 Thread Tod Detre
Ok I upgraded to Hamm, but now dselevt is unhappy. It's probubly my config
error but I don't know what. When ever I try to install stuff it wants to
upgrade alot of stuff (expected it wants to put newer versions on.) but
when it trys to get the file it can't find them. I ftped myself to
ftp.debian.org and found the files where dselect was supposedly looking
for them. 

I'm using  ftp.debian.org
directory /debian/hamm
dists main non-free contrub

it gets the lists just fine, but can't get the files

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Re: Samba: password for mapping network drives

1998-06-27 Thread James D. Freels
Brian:

I had similar problems for a long time and was able to fix the problem
by specifying on the smbclient line user name, password, and workgroup
from which the password server is serving.  For example, to mount W95
drives onto the Linux machine I give

smbclient machine_id\\service -U uid%passwd -W workgroup

On the W95 side, to "mount" a Linux drive onto the W95 machine
you must issue the mount command (see DOS or W95 docs if you can find
any).  The entry is controlled by the settings in the /etc/smb.conf
file on the Linux machine.  Below is a modified (for security) version
of my /etc/smb.conf file (comments welcomed from other samba users as
smb.conf is tricky)

[global]
   announce as = Win95
   client code page = 437
   domain logons = no
   hide dot files = no
   local master = no
   security = USER
   wins server = iii.kkk.lll.mmm
   wins proxy = no
   wins support = no
   printing = bsd
   printcap name = /etc/printcap
   load printers = yes
   guest account = nobody
   invalid users = root
   hosts allow = iii.kkk.lll localhost
   hosts equiv = /etc/hosts.equiv
   log file = /dev/null
   max log size = 10
   debuglevel = 0
   workgroup = workgroup
   preferred master = no
   os level = 0
   server string = Samba %v running Linux on %h
   browseable = yes
[homes]
   comment = Home Directories
   path = /home/%u
   public = no
   writable = yes
   create mode = 0700
[cdrom]
   comment = NEC Multispon 4X cd-rom
   path = /mnt/cdrom
   public = yes
   writable = no
   create mode = 0700
[printers]
   comment = all printers
   path = /tmp
   print command = lpr -h -r -P%p %s
   postscript = no
   printable = yes
   public = yes


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Re: Upgrade problems

1998-06-27 Thread Ralph Winslow
When Tod Detre wrote, I replied:

Are you using apt as your access method?  I've started using this and
specifying a list of sites to use for access and am delighted with the
results.   I recently ran dselafter not having done so for an extended
period.  I downloaded something (I forget just what) and dselect
automatically brought down ~25-30 applications which had been upgraded
since last I ran dselect.  It took several re-starts to get the required
packages (my ISP hangs up after six hours) but other than restarting
ppp (which I could let diald or something handle weere I a bit less 
paranoid) and hitting  a few times in dselect, things went
swimmingly.   Two or three files in parallel from different mirrors
kept my 33600 modem pulling ~4kb/s - Nice job!!
> 
> Ok I upgraded to Hamm, but now dselevt is unhappy. It's probubly my config
> error but I don't know what. When ever I try to install stuff it wants to
> upgrade alot of stuff (expected it wants to put newer versions on.) but
> when it trys to get the file it can't find them. I ftped myself to
> ftp.debian.org and found the files where dselect was supposedly looking
> for them.
> 
> I'm using  ftp.debian.org
> directory /debian/hamm
> dists main non-free contrub
> 
> it gets the lists just fine, but can't get the files
> 
> Tod Detre |"Losers whine about their best, winners go home and @%^& the
>   | prom queen." -Sean Connery (The Rock)
>   |"It is TOD not TODD! Do you see God spelling his name
>   | Godd?" -Me
> 
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Re: Upgrade problems

1998-06-27 Thread Bob Nielsen
On Sat, 27 Jun 1998, Tod Detre wrote:

> Ok I upgraded to Hamm, but now dselevt is unhappy. It's probubly my config
> error but I don't know what. When ever I try to install stuff it wants to
> upgrade alot of stuff (expected it wants to put newer versions on.) but
> when it trys to get the file it can't find them. I ftped myself to
> ftp.debian.org and found the files where dselect was supposedly looking
> for them. 
> 
> I'm using  ftp.debian.org
> directory /debian/hamm
> dists main non-free contrub

Try:

Site: ftp.debian.org (or whatever mirror you prefer)

directory: /debian

distributions: dists/frozen/main dists/frozen/non-free dists/frozen/contrib

This works consistently.  You might want to try apt 
(http://www.debian.org/~jgg/apt_0.0.17-1_i386.deb), which adds another
method to dselect as well as providing a command line method.

Bob


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Stable vs. Frozen

1998-06-27 Thread fuzybuny
I want to change from the stable distrabution to the frozen distrabution is
there an easy way to do it or do i have to do a complete reinstall???
thanks 
Babs

 


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Re: Stable vs. Frozen

1998-06-27 Thread Bob Nielsen
On Sat, 27 Jun 1998, fuzybuny wrote:

> I want to change from the stable distrabution to the frozen distrabution is
> there an easy way to do it or do i have to do a complete reinstall???
> thanks 

No, you don't need to reinstall.  You do need to install certain packages
in a specific order, however, to avoid conflicts when upgrading to libc6.
The easiest way is to use the autoup.sh script, found on 

http://debian.vicnet.net.au/autoup/ and at: http://www.taz.net.au/autoup/

It would also be helpful to read the libc5-libc6 mini-HOWTO, available at

http://www.gate.net/~storm/FAQ/libc5-libc6-Mini-HOWTO.html

For a more complete discussion, see http://www.debian.org/news#19980624

Bob


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Re: Hamm in Australia?

1998-06-27 Thread Gasper Fele - Zorz
Why don't U just get someone to bake it 4 U ?



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awe64, how?

1998-06-27 Thread michael/badpixel
hi!

one of my friends are trying to use his awe64 with linux...
does anyone know what to use? can he use the standart sb16 driver in the
kernel? what about alsa .. please send config files :)

thanks!

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debian-brazilian

1998-06-27 Thread Lalo Martins
Sorry for the huge cross-posting, but I figure that not everyone
subscribes to -user and -devel, and I had to try to catch
everyone. Please followup in -devel only - use the "Reply-to".

So, how many Brazilian users/developers are there? (developers=3
IIRC) I would really appreciate to start a debian-brazilian list
and a project to adapt debian to Brazilian Portuguese; what made
me think it's already time was a note about someone packaging an
"ibrazilian" dictionary for ispell (hadn't seen the upload
tough].

For those who don't know, there is a Brazilian version of RedHat
(run by a company). As people sometimes say in #debian, if I
wanted to buy from a company I'd be using Windows ;-) Now
serious, they're doing quite a good job of translating stuff and
all the work they did is available for us (they said so). Now
I'd like to have a really free (Debian) option.

[And in the future, a "debian-users-brazilian" would be cool to
have too ;-)]

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   |alo
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FVWM2 (New X user)

1998-06-27 Thread Matt Kopishke
I have X (finally) working on my machine (bo), I am running FVWM2 and was 
wondering what I do to add a pattern or color (prefer pattern) to the 
desktop.  I now you edit the fvwm.rc file, but what do I edit, what 
format file do I use for the pattern, and were would I put it?
Thanks,

 -Matt-

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Re: awe64, how?

1998-06-27 Thread Greg Norris
Your friend probably wants is Takashi Iwai's AWE driver.  If s/he's
running hamm, it's available as the awe-drv package - otherwise it can
be downloaded from http://bahamut.mm.t.u-tokyo.ac.jp/~iwai/midi.html.
The driver includes a pretty good description of what needs to be done...
also look at 
http://www.ict.pwr.wroc.pl/ftp/pub/Linux/docs/HOWTO/mini/Soundblaster-AWE64 

Feel free to give your friend my email address, if any help is needed
once those documents have been looked through.

On Sat, Jun 27, 1998 at 09:07:14PM +0200, michael/badpixel wrote:
> hi!
> 
> one of my friends are trying to use his awe64 with linux...
> does anyone know what to use? can he use the standart sb16 driver in the
> kernel? what about alsa .. please send config files :)


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CTRL+ALT+DEL reboot in X

1998-06-27 Thread Oskar Liljeblad
Is there a way to make CTRL+ALT+DEL shutdown and reboot the computer in X?

Oskar Liljeblad ([EMAIL PROTECTED])



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suggest a backup media

1998-06-27 Thread the lone gunman
I'm unsure of what backup media I should go with for my Linux system.
I have a 4 gig harddrive.

I'm thinking about CD-R or Travan-4 tape backup.  I'm pulling hairs,
though, trying to determine which is better (for me, anyway).  I'd
like to go with DAT, but the drives are too expensive.

There are scsi CD-R drives for around $400 or so, and the HP T4
(Travan 4) internal scsi tape unit is about the same as for price (I
think).  I cannot afford to go any higher.

CD-R seems a better route, with the low media costs, and that most
cd-roms can read my backups.  Retrieval would also be considerably
faster.

But, I read a long FAQ about CD-R, and the Linux Cd-writing howto, and
CD burning makes me nervous because it's so sensitive.  I'm worried cd
backups may fail, and my computer is probably pretty useless while I'm
burning.  One 4 gig Travan-4 tape would pretty much do me, and the
process is a bit simpler.  Plus, I don't think there's too much of a
difference in write speed for CD-R and scsi Travan-4.

Can anyone offer any suggestions?  Perhaps a link to a backup
comparison site or something?  (Since this topic has probably been
beaten to death!).

Thanks!
Matt


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saving copies of sent mail with mutt

1998-06-27 Thread the lone gunman
Is there a simple way to save copies of messages I've sent with the
mutt email client, other than Cc:'ing myself?

Thanks!
Matt


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getting pgp

1998-06-27 Thread Ralph Winslow
I updated my list of sites for apt to use to get .deb packages
to include ftp.funet.fi in the expectation that I would then
be able to get pgp??*??.deb but, no joy.   Did I simply make a
bad site choice, or am I, once again, missing something?

The line in detail read:

  http://ftp/funet.fi/pub/Linux/mirrors/debian frozen
main contrib binary
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Re: saving copies of sent mail with mutt

1998-06-27 Thread Miquel van Smoorenburg
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
the lone gunman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Is there a simple way to save copies of messages I've sent with the
>mutt email client, other than Cc:'ing myself?

In your .muttrc do

set record=~/Mail/sent

or whatever file you want to put it in.. Another option is

my_hdr Bcc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Mike.
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stumped

1998-06-27 Thread Matt Pittaway
Hi Ig,
 I downloaded and, after some trials, installed Linux to a 2nd hard
drive.
1)How do I learn the commands? When I first got DOS I just typed help
and learned from there.
2) What files do I need to install the "x" gui? Are there instructions
to do this?

Thanks,
 Matt Pittaway
Clarklake, Michigan, USA


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Re: getting pgp

1998-06-27 Thread Brandon Mitchell
On Sat, 27 Jun 1998, Ralph Winslow wrote:

> I updated my list of sites for apt to use to get .deb packages
> to include ftp.funet.fi in the expectation that I would then
> be able to get pgp??*??.deb but, no joy.   Did I simply make a
> bad site choice, or am I, once again, missing something?
> 
> The line in detail read:
> 
>   http://ftp/funet.fi/pub/Linux/mirrors/debian frozen
> main contrib binary

My sources.list:
# Use for a local mirror - remove the llug http lines for the bits
# your mirror contains.
# deb file:/your/mirror/here/debian stable main contrib non-free
# See sources.list(5) for more information
# Remember that you can only use http or file URIs
deb http://ftp1.us.debian.org/debian frozen main contrib non-free
#deb http://llug.sep.bnl.gov/debian frozen main contrib non-free
deb http://ftp.de.debian.org/debian-non-US/ unstable/binary-$(ARCH)/
#deb ftp://nonus.debian.org/pub/debian-non-US/ unstable/binary-$(ARCH)/
#deb ftp://debian.crosslink.net/pub/debian/ frozen main contrib non-free
deb ftp://ftp.debian.org/debian frozen main contrib non-free

Note the / after non-US and the explicit binary-$(ARCH) directory.  I
think it's all described in the /usr/doc/apt/guide* file.

HTH,
Brandon

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