Re: irc and that Free Software thing

1998-05-10 Thread AJT60
On Sun, 10 May 1998, Hamish Moffatt wrote:

> I apologize for preaching, but usually universities ban IRC because
> it consumes finite resources which are needed for course-related work.
> As a university student myself, I get pretty annoyed if I can't get
> a terminal to do some work because people are browsing the web, for example.
> 
> I don't know about .NZ, but in .AU net access isn't really too expensive.

Likewise, I apologise for replying in my defence, but my university acts
as an ISP. I dial in from home, I never have problems getting through so I
presume that there isn't a big demand for dial in access at the times I
dial in, and I pay for what I use. 

It was the free software thing I wanted to see on IRC.  

Andrew Tarr

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Setup w/large hard drives

1998-05-10 Thread Randy Edwards
   I tried setting up bo on a friend's hard drive today -- actually,
two different hard drives, one IDE and one SCSI, both 3.2 gig drives
which have more than 1024 cylinders.

   My first attempt was to create a 64 meg primary partition which was
to be root, then a swap partition, then other partitions.  I did this
with Debian's regular installation using cfdisk.  However, when it
came time to make a file system and/or mount the root partition, the
system would not list out the first partition.

   Next, I tried making one huge partition with about 100 megs in a
swap partition.  The install program let me create a file system and
mount this as root, but of course LILO wouldn't install to make the
system bootable from the hard drive.

   Could someone give me a tutorial on how one should deal with large
hard drives with Linux?  I could've sworn I was on the right track
with the small 64 meg root partition -- thus getting that under the
1024 cylinder boundary -- but that doesn't appear to be so.  If anyone
could give me some pointers on this, I'd greatly appreciate it.

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Re: w command

1998-05-10 Thread Nuno Carvalho
Remco van de Meent wrote:

> On Sun, 3 May 1998, Nuno Carvalho wrote:
>
>  :  Why when i call the w command get that message ?
>  :
>  :   $ w
>  :bad data in /var/run/utmp
>  :
>  :  What would be the reason ? I already deleted that file and it still the
>  : same !
>
> Maybe you're half-way an upgrade from a libc5 system to a 'full' libc6
> system? If so, I think there are packages installed which corrupt your utmp
> file. Does `last' give correct output?

 By the way, the 'last' command works fine !

 What should I do ?

 Best regards,
 Nuno Carvalho


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University of Coimbra
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Re: Connecting to a different LAN

1998-05-10 Thread Hamish Moffatt
On Sat, May 09, 1998 at 12:04:25PM +0100, Ian Lynagh wrote:
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Ian Lynagh
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes
> >
> >Once I install Debian I hope to set my laptop up so that the network
> >card has IP 192.168.37.mumble, mask 255.255.255.0. It will also connect
> >to the 'net via the modem.
> >
> >However, if I take it to a friends LAN which uses IPs 1.0.x.y then will
> >I need to change anything? What's the best way of doing this?
> 
> Something I probably should have mentioned, I don't want my IP address
> to change. I want to be able to ping the 1.0.x.y addresses from my
> 192.168.37.mumble address and vica versa.

In /etc/init.d/network, add a route to 1.0.x.y on your ethernet with no
gateway. Something like

route add -net 1.0.x.0 netmask 255.255.255.0 eth0

should probably do it. Your friend will need to do the same on all his
hosts, or at least on his gateway, if he has one.


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System hang while loading Serial Module

1998-05-10 Thread Ian Seyler
I recently installed Debian v1.3 on an old intel 386 test system. Everything
in the installation went fine (but I did have to low-level format the hard
drive to make the partitions properly). After the installation I rebooted
the system like it asked me to. It seemed that everything was loading up OK
until it trys to load the serial module after initializing the random number
generator.

Here is what it says on the screen after the number generator is loaded :

Configuring serial ports/dev/ttyS0: No such device
failed...
  Trying to load the serial module manually...
Serial Driver version 4.13 with no serial options enabled
tty00 at 0x03f8 (irq = 4) is a 16450

After this is displayed the system hangs.
I know that COM1 on this computer is IRQ 4 but the UART is only 8250.. but
Linux seems to think its a 16450..

Does anyone know how to fix this problem? Any help would be greatly
appreciated.


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Re: ppp setup issues..

1998-05-10 Thread Gregory Guthrie
John, thanks, very useful. 

I hope this all finds it's way into a FAQ; (before it changes!).

Greg

Gregory Guthrie writes:
> My system calls /etc/init.d/ppp, which seems to do the same general thing
> as /usr/bin/pon.

Right.

init calls /etc/init.d/ppp which calls pppd with appropriate options.

pppd reads /etc/ppp/options, reads ~/.ppprc, scans the command line
for a port name, reads /etc/ppp/options.ttyXX, and then interprets the
command line options.  In case of conflict the later option overrides the
earlier.  Thus /etc/ppp/options contains defaults that always apply unless
overridden, ~/.ppprc contains options pertaining to the user running pppd,
options.ttyXX contains options pertaining to the selected port, and the
command line contains options pertaining to this particular connection.

> On my system (Debian), in init.d the ppp file calls pppd, with an
> explicit `cat /etc/ppp.options_out` [note backticks] for arguments.

/etc/ppp.options_out is where you should put your local customizations.
IMHO '-f /etc/ppp.options_out' should have been used so that the file could
be commented.

> What is the difference in using "-detach &"...  

'-detach' says don't go into the background.  '&' says go into the
background.  The combination does nothing.  Leave it out.

Debian 2.0 will use pppd-2.3.3 and handle the options in a completely
different and much better way.
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Re: Setup w/large hard drives

1998-05-10 Thread Pete Harlan
>Could someone give me a tutorial on how one should deal with large
> hard drives with Linux?  I could've sworn I was on the right track

Someone please correct me if I'm wrong, but I think that you can do
the following, if you don't want to split your disk up into more
partitions than necessary:

Device Filesystem  Size  Mountpoint   Contains
-
/dev/sda1  ext25mb   /kernels kernels only
/dev/sda2  ext28gb   /Everything
/dev/sda3  swap100mb none Swap space

lilo.conf then looks something like
-
boot=/dev/sda
root=/dev/sda2
install=/boot/boot.b
map=/boot/map
vga=normal
delay=50
read-only
image=/kernels/vmlinuz
label=linux
image=/kernels/vmlinuz-33
label=linux-33

It's my guess that this would work, though I haven't tried it; I'm
planning on doing so the next time I set up a machine with a single
large drive, so let me know if it doesn't ;)

You'd have to make sure you copied your kernels into the right place,
of course.  But it saves you the pain of having a bunch of partitions
that never turn out to be the right size.

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Re: Help with cdwrite

1998-05-10 Thread XRD Lab
mwb wrote:
> 
> I have a Mermorex CRW-1622.  

Sorry for the stupid question. Is the above drive IDE?

> I use kernel 2.1.94 for writing.  As far as it goes, you need to
> compile the kernel to use scsi emulation, generic scsi support, and
> cd support.  Do not include atapi cd support - it won't let the
> scsi emulation see the drive.  

Thanks. I will try that. If I do not include atapi cd support, how do I
read my regular cd's? 

Thanks,

sridhar

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IP Masquerading - getting "ipfwadm: setsockopt failed ...". Is Debian 1.3 (bo) compiled with IP-masquerading?

1998-05-10 Thread Milan Zimmermann
I am wondering, is the default kernel from 386-binary(bo) compiled with
Masquerading?

I do not know if that is my problem, but whenever I try to use the
"ipfwadm" command (with [hopefully] valid switches) I always get a
message "ipfwadm: setsockopt failed: Protocol not available"

Thanks, Milan


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Re: Setup w/large hard drives

1998-05-10 Thread Christopher Jason Morrone
On Sat, 9 May 1998, Pete Harlan wrote:

> >Could someone give me a tutorial on how one should deal with large
> > hard drives with Linux?  I could've sworn I was on the right track
> 
> Someone please correct me if I'm wrong, but I think that you can do
> the following, if you don't want to split your disk up into more
> partitions than necessary:
> 
> Device Filesystem  Size  Mountpoint   Contains
> -
> /dev/sda1  ext25mb   /kernels kernels only
> /dev/sda2  ext28gb   /Everything
> /dev/sda3  swap100mb none Swap space
[cut]

I have a similar setup with my IDE drive.  I would suggest just making the
"/boot" directory the mount point for the small initial partition.  (I
needed this to get around the BIOS limitations to use LILO).  Here's my
setup:

/dev/hdb2   /   ext2defaults0   1
/dev/hdb1   /boot   ext2defaults0   2
/dev/hdb3   noneswapsw  0   0

red:/etc$ df
Filesystem 1024-blocks  Used Available Capacity Mounted on
/dev/hdb21493162 1336422   110443 92%   /
/dev/hdb1   43582048 2310 47%   /boot


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Re: Connecting to a different LAN

1998-05-10 Thread Dave Thayer


Hamish Moffatt writes
> On Sat, May 09, 1998 at 12:04:25PM +0100, Ian Lynagh wrote:
> > In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Ian Lynagh
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes
> > >
> > >Once I install Debian I hope to set my laptop up so that the network
^^
> > >card has IP 192.168.37.mumble, mask 255.255.255.0. It will also connect
> > >to the 'net via the modem.
> > >
> > >However, if I take it to a friends LAN which uses IPs 1.0.x.y then will
> > >I need to change anything? What's the best way of doing this?
> > 
> > Something I probably should have mentioned, I don't want my IP address
> > to change. I want to be able to ping the 1.0.x.y addresses from my
> > 192.168.37.mumble address and vica versa.
> 
> In /etc/init.d/network, add a route to 1.0.x.y on your ethernet with no
> gateway. Something like
> 
> route add -net 1.0.x.0 netmask 255.255.255.0 eth0
> 
> should probably do it. Your friend will need to do the same on all his
> hosts, or at least on his gateway, if he has one.

If the laptop uses a PCMCIA network card, /etc/init.d/network should 
only contain entries for local loopback. The real work is done in
/etc/pcmcia/network.opts . You can have different setups using different
schemes, see section 5.2 of the PCMCIA-HOWTO for details.


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Ethernet Problems

1998-05-10 Thread jscogin
I use the install program to install my Ethernet card. It finds the address
and IRQ. I then configure the name and IP address. It says it is configuring
the driver eth0. I then install the kernal, but when I reboot, the eth0
driver is not loaded and it says the network is unreachable. I have been on
the news groups and several people have had ideas but nothing seems to work.
When I do ifconfig -i it lists lo but not eth0.
Any ideas?
Thanks, J.D.

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Unidentified subject!

1998-05-10 Thread Liran Zvibel
Hello!

I downloaded the frozen tree at work this weekend  (Lets hope that nobody
had the time to delete it already...) and I'll burn the CDs today.

I have a working bo system. The problem is that I enjoy Linux so much that
I want to make more room for it (and leave the M$-WINDO$ only for word
processing.)

What is the easiest way to install hamm on the bigger partitions?
Would it be better to first repartition and then install or install and
then enlarge the partitions (first changing the size of the DO$ partition,
then moving '/' there then recreating the /usr, /home, /var partitions
(this time I want to make /home and /var together, and mount /usr as read
only).

BTW: I think that 15 MB '/' will be enough, won't it?
BTW2: Is there a way to mount /tmp on the /var partition (isn't it needed
when there is only '/'?)

TIA,

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Installing hamm (whether on bo or on fresh system)

1998-05-10 Thread Liran Zvibel
sorry, didn't put a subject line on the first send...

Hello!

I downloaded the frozen tree at work this weekend  (Lets hope that nobody
had the time to delete it already...) and I'll burn the CDs today.

I have a working bo system. The problem is that I enjoy Linux so much that
I want to make more room for it (and leave the M$-WINDO$ only for word
processing.)

What is the easiest way to install hamm on the bigger partitions?
Would it be better to first repartition and then install or install and
then enlarge the partitions (first changing the size of the DO$ partition,
then moving '/' there then recreating the /usr, /home, /var partitions
(this time I want to make /home and /var together, and mount /usr as read
only).

BTW: I think that 15 MB '/' will be enough, won't it?
BTW2: Is there a way to mount /tmp on the /var partition (isn't it needed
when there is only '/'?)

TIA,

Liran Zvibel.

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Re: Setup w/large hard drives

1998-05-10 Thread Hamish Moffatt
On Sat, May 09, 1998 at 10:38:59PM -0500, Pete Harlan wrote:
> >Could someone give me a tutorial on how one should deal with large
> > hard drives with Linux?  I could've sworn I was on the right track
> 
> Someone please correct me if I'm wrong, but I think that you can do
> the following, if you don't want to split your disk up into more
> partitions than necessary:
> 
> Device Filesystem  Size  Mountpoint   Contains
> -
> /dev/sda1  ext25mb   /kernels kernels only
> /dev/sda2  ext28gb   /Everything
> /dev/sda3  swap100mb none Swap space

Why do you need a separate partition to boot from?
I have an 800mb root partition (which is more than 1024 cylinders,
obviously) and it boots from that just fine, and that's on /dev/hdb
too.

Partition Table for /dev/hdb

 ---Starting---  EndingStart Number of
 # Flags Head Sect Cyl   ID  Head Sect CylSector  Sectors
-- -         -
 1  0x00011 0x05  127   63  397 8064   3201408
 2  0x8001  398 0xA5  127   63  778  3209472   3072384
 3  0x00000 0x000000 0
 4  0x00000 0x000000 0
 5  0x00121 0x83  127   63  204   63   1644992
 6  0x0011  205 0x83  127   63  382   63   1435329
 7  0x0011  383 0x82  127   63  397   63120897

I can boot from /dev/hdb2 (FreeBSD) too, and it's the second half
of a 3.2gb drive.


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FIPS for Ext2?

1998-05-10 Thread David Densmore
Is there an application similar to FIPS or Partition Magic which runs
under Linux and will resize, copy and move ext2 partitions?

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Sorry, but I STILL can't sort out my MBR

1998-05-10 Thread Tristan Day
Thanks to all for all the help and ideas, but it still won't work: here's
what has gone wrong:

The DOS 'fdisk /MBR' ran with no errors, but made no difference to bootup.

'lilo -u /dev/hda' says "boot sector of /dev/hda does not have a lilo
signature"

'lilo -u' runs fine and says that it has restored the original MBR, but now
on bootup,

"Lil-" comes up on the screen and the system hangs

(Just glad I have a recent kernel boot disk =) )

/boot/boot.hda doesn't exist.

I have no WinNT installation disks, but I remember trying this once to
restore the system and it asked for my Emergency Recovery Disk, which
apparently didn't have enough info on to restore anything. The only other
option was to reinstall WinNT, which is what I did at the time.

So I'm stuck.

Here's a list of the files in /boot/

any_d.b
mbr.b
vmlinuz-2.0.29
vmlinuz-2.0.30
os2_d.b
map
boot.b
psdatabase
psdatabase-2.0.29
""  -2.0.30
chain.b
boot.0301
System.map-2.0.29
"  " -2.0.30
any_b.b


Sorry for hastling everyone for the 3rd time!


Tristan




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lilo on serial line (was: Re: how to set up headless machine?)

1998-05-10 Thread Rainer Clasen
Hi!

Jack Kern ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
> I'm not sure I understand what is required but the lilo doc,
> Manual.txt.gz, in the "Global" options section
> (/usr/doc/lilo/Manual.txt.gz) seems to have a relevant passage:
> 
>   SERIAL=  enables control from a serial line. The specified
>   serial port is initialized and LILO is accepting input from it and from
>   ...

Did anybody get this running propperly? I added serial=1,9600n8 to my
lilo.conf and on reboot I got lilo´s prompt, but wasn´t able to enter
anything. When getty starts I can login. Or was this the fault of minicom
running on the other end? BTW: I used bo´s lilo_19-2

Regards
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Re: IP Masq and users

1998-05-10 Thread The Thought Assassin
On Tue, 28 Apr 1998, Breathnach, Proinnsias (Dublin) wrote:
> Anyway what I need is to ask all users connecting (from any of the client
> machines (2 * W95, 1 * Linux) 
> to 'login' before they're allowed net access (mainly for monitoring - who's
> running up the usage bill etc.) 
> Is there an easy way to do this ?, the HOWTO doesn't seem to mention
> requiring passwords for access, but I
> might have missed it !
There are numerous ways of doing this, but I want to tell you about an
interesting project I was involved at at the local highschool.
The highschool was a little different in that SAMBA filesharing was an
essential part of our setup, but other than that, it was an
IP-Masquerading ppp Gateway.
Each user had a home directory on the server, which they could mount from
any of the workstations using samba.
now the smbd (which accepts the samba connections)has an option to run a
script, either as that user, or as the superuser, when a particular shared
directory is mounted, and this script can be given the IP address of the
calling machine, and the username of the client as arguments.
So I used this script to trigger the appropriate ipfwadm commands when the
user mounted his or her home directory, and a similar script was run when
the user unmounted the home directory, which would undo each of the rules
applied previously, and store the results of the accounting rule.

Seemed to work quite well once some of the client-side bugs were ironed
out, and if, or anyone, wants a hand with setting such a system up, I'd be
glad to hear from you.

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Re: Sorry, but I STILL can't sort out my MBR

1998-05-10 Thread Hamish Moffatt
On Sun, May 10, 1998 at 01:23:48PM +0100, Tristan Day wrote:
> Thanks to all for all the help and ideas, but it still won't work: here's
> what has gone wrong:

Can you state the problem again? I missed your earlier posts.

> The DOS 'fdisk /MBR' ran with no errors, but made no difference to bootup.

Is your NT partition marked active? If you install LILO in your boot
sector instead of the MBR, then the MBR should contain the standard
code (done by FDISK /MBR), and either the Linux partition or the NT
partition should be active. If it's the NT partition, use BOOTPART
(or similar) to set up an entry in NT's boot manager for Linux. If it's
Linux, add an entry to /etc/lilo.conf for NT, something like

other=/dev/hda1
label=NT



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Re: Sorry, but I STILL can't sort out my MBR

1998-05-10 Thread Ossama Othman
Hi,

> Here's a list of the files in /boot/
[snip]
> boot.0301
[snip]

Here is what the lilo manual says:

---
LILO automatically makes backup copies when it overwrites boot sectors. 
They are named /boot/boot., with  corresponding to the device 
number, e.g.  0300  is /dev/hda,  0800  is /dev/sda, etc. Those backups 
can be used to restore the old MBR if no easier method is available. The  
commands are
dd if=/boot/boot.0300 of=/dev/hda bs=446 count=1  or
dd if=/boot/boot.0800 of=/dev/sda bs=446 count=1 
respectively.
--

You appear to have a /boot/boot.0301 file.  Have you tried:

dd if=/boot/boot.0301 of=/dev/hda bs=446 count

This has worked for me in the past.

-Ossama



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Re: Sorry, but I STILL can't sort out my MBR

1998-05-10 Thread Ossama Othman
Sorry, that should have been:

dd if=/boot/boot.0301 of=/dev/hda bs=446 count=1 

-Ossama



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RE: Memory Checker (RAM)

1998-05-10 Thread Florian Hinzmann

On 07-May-98 C.J.LAWSON wrote:
> A while ago someone posted information (or was it a website) on a program
> that can be used to detect intermittent RAM failure which may be missed
> by the bios. 
> I would be grateful if anyone with this or similar information could mail
> it to me (or better post it to the list)

There is a simple program named 'memtest' in 
the debian package 'sysutils'. It is startable
from within a shell.

There is a tool called 'memtest86' in package
'hwtools'. It seems to be a bit more complicated,
but I've not tried it yet.

If someone knows more memory-checking programs 
I would be very happy to receive a short mail.

 
Greetings,
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Tulip Network drive

1998-05-10 Thread Timothy C. Phan
Hi,

  Does the hamm/kernel_2.0.33 include the Tulip network drive?

  Thanks!

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Re: Tulip Network drive

1998-05-10 Thread aqy6633
>   Does the hamm/kernel_2.0.33 include the Tulip network drive?

Yes, but you may need to download and compile newer version of the "tulip"
driver depending on the particular card you use. (I had to.)

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IPX support

1998-05-10 Thread M.C. Vernon
I'm trying to use ncpmount, and I need IPX support in the kernel. How do I
do this, please?

Matthew Vernon
Debian 2 sysadmin
linux newbie

GCB on request ;)

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ssh question

1998-05-10 Thread G. Kapetanios

Hi all, 


After some security incident on my network I decided to set up ssh.
I think I have figured most things of interest to me out. However, 
before I had rsh in ascript to start my mail program which is another host
through FvwmButtons. Now that I disabled rsh I tried to figure a way to do
the same with slogin. I figured the way but it involves setting 
authorisation keys without passphrases. How bad is this ? Am I loosing all
security ? Am I better off with rsh in this case ? And another related
wuestion: When I disabled rsh I simply chmoded the programs 700.
Now I can't use rsh as a simple user (although I can as root) even if I
set the permissions as they used to be. I get a message saying 
rcmd: socket: Permission denied
Obviously the programs to set sssh involve some secure sockets. Is there a
workaround or not for this  ??

Thanks for any comment 
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Sound card support

1998-05-10 Thread M.C. Vernon
Dear Debian people,

How does one configure a sound card, and is the yamaha OPL3-SAx sound
board supported, and if not, If I connect my driver CD to my website, can
someone do a driver, please?

I will be eternally grateful, but don't have any money right now ;)

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loadlin problem

1998-05-10 Thread Gregory Guthrie
I have a partition on my W95 hard disk with Debian loaded; and I boot via a
floppy. I want to switch to booting from W95/DOS; so I tried loadlin.
Put it into a directory with Linux, root.bin), and tried it.
  loadlin linux root=/dev/ram initrd=root.bin

It won't work until one reboots into protected mode DOS first;
unconvenient, but OK. (There are fast reboot tools for windows, seems like
this would be a nicer way to go..)

It boots, but then it wants to do setup, more like a rescue/setup disk that
a boot disk. Is there a better way?

Even then, When I ask it to mount an already initialized partition (option
G), it lists partitions, but not the linux one. If I ask it to list all
partitions, it shows the ext2 Linux partition, but the mount initialized
partion doesn't list it. ??

Thanks.

Greg Guthrie

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Re: ssh question

1998-05-10 Thread Chris


On Sun, 10 May 1998, G. Kapetanios wrote:

> 
> Hi all, 
> 
> 
> After some security incident on my network I decided to set up ssh.
> I think I have figured most things of interest to me out. However, 
> before I had rsh in ascript to start my mail program which is another host
> through FvwmButtons. Now that I disabled rsh I tried to figure a way to do
> the same with slogin. I figured the way but it involves setting 
> authorisation keys without passphrases. How bad is this ? Am I loosing all
> security ? Am I better off with rsh in this case ? And another related
> wuestion: When I disabled rsh I simply chmoded the programs 700.
> Now I can't use rsh as a simple user (although I can as root) even if I
> set the permissions as they used to be. I get a message saying 
> rcmd: socket: Permission denied
> Obviously the programs to set sssh involve some secure sockets. Is there a
> workaround or not for this  ??
> 
> Thanks for any comment 
> George   
> 


ssh CAN replace both rsh and rlogin,  To do things as you would with rsh,
you use 'ssh '.  The trick is that you must first put the public
keys for each system into either /etc/ssh or your .ssh directory (in the
files ssh_known_keys or known_keys respectively).  The easiest way to do
this is to slogin from one machine to the other, and then do the same from
the other machine back again - manually approving authentication each
time (by the way - slogin is just an alias for ssh).

Hope that helps,

chris


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Re: Setup w/large hard drives

1998-05-10 Thread Randy Edwards
> Why do you need a separate partition to boot from?
> I have an 800mb root partition (which is more than 1024 cylinders,
> obviously) and it boots from that just fine, and that's on /dev/hdb
> too.

This is what I thought too!  As I said, I initially tried a 64 meg /
partition thinking I could keep /boot and other things in that space, and then
have /usr /home /var /tmp, etc., on different partitions just for flexibility.
But with that situation the install program would not give me the option to
select the / partition (the first, primary partition on the first hard drive).

   Then I took the tactic of one huge, multi-gigabyte partition.  LILO refused 
to
install onto that.

   There is one variable here that I haven't mentioned.  This system (SCSI using
an Adaptec 2920 controller) had a SCSI hard drive as SCSI ID #6, a ZIP drive as
SCSI ID #5, and a SCSI CD-ROM as SCSI ID #4.  In my mind, Linux should have seen
the hard drive as /dev/sda, correct?  In this case, Linux kept putting the ZIP
drive as /dev/sda and the hard drive as /dev/sdb.  Is this the source of my
problems?  If so, how can one cure that (the Zip drive only allows itself to be
set as SCSI ID #5 or #6)?

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Stupid question for the day

1998-05-10 Thread Randy Edwards
   Okay, you can tease me later :-), but for now, could someone please
answer this stupid question for today?

   I've looked and apropros'ed myself to near death, but nowhere can I
find out what that command is to automagically set up a program in
/etc/init.d to run properly at the various run levels.  Last time I
set one up I did it manually and would like to avoid that this time.
The program I want to run is simply a series of ipfwadm calls to set
up my masquerading, along with some insert modules on start and
rmmod's on stop.  Anyone know the command I'm talking about?  Thanks
in advance.

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Re: Ethernet Problems

1998-05-10 Thread Jean Pierre LeJacq
On Sat, 9 May 1998, jscogin wrote:

> I use the install program to install my Ethernet card. It finds the address
> and IRQ. I then configure the name and IP address. It says it is configuring
> the driver eth0. I then install the kernal, but when I reboot, the eth0
> driver is not loaded and it says the network is unreachable. I have been on
> the news groups and several people have had ideas but nothing seems to work.
> When I do ifconfig -i it lists lo but not eth0.

You need to have the kernel compiled to support your type of card or
use loadable modules.  Have you done either?

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Re: Stupid question for the day

1998-05-10 Thread Jean Pierre LeJacq
On Sun, 10 May 1998, Randy Edwards wrote:

>I've looked and apropros'ed myself to near death, but nowhere can I
> find out what that command is to automagically set up a program in
> /etc/init.d to run properly at the various run levels.  Last time I
> set one up I did it manually and would like to avoid that this time.
> The program I want to run is simply a series of ipfwadm calls to set
> up my masquerading, along with some insert modules on start and
> rmmod's on stop.  Anyone know the command I'm talking about?  Thanks

update-rc.d

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Re: Help with cdwrite

1998-05-10 Thread mwb
On Sun, 10 May 1998, XRD Lab wrote:

> mwb wrote:
> > 
> > I have a Mermorex CRW-1622.  
> 
> Sorry for the stupid question. Is the above drive IDE?

YES, it is IDE.

> 
> > I use kernel 2.1.94 for writing.  As far as it goes, you need to
> > compile the kernel to use scsi emulation, generic scsi support, and
> > cd support.  Do not include atapi cd support - it won't let the
> > scsi emulation see the drive.  
> 
> Thanks. I will try that. If I do not include atapi cd support, how do I
> read my regular cd's? 

You can read and write cd's using the scsi interface.  To read the
cd, you mount the drive as you would if it were a scsi drive, the
command line I use is:

mount /dev/sr0 /cdrom -t iso9660 -ro

What won't work, or at least won't work for me, is ripping audio
off the disks through scsi emulation.  So I want to copy CDs I
boot to an ATAPI kernel, rip my CDs, then boot a scsi kernel and
write the CDs.

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W95 access to Debian files..

1998-05-10 Thread Gregory Guthrie
I run a Debian partition as a second OS on my W95 disk.
  [also primary OS on several others!]

The utility "fsdext2" is a real joy; it allows one to view (read-only) any
Linux partitions, in case one has other important tools in their W95
environment. Many thanks to the author!

Unfortunately it is pretty unstable, and locks up the machine regularly
after only a short time. The author is not maintaining it anymore.

It would sure be nice if there was a new version, or other options for this.

Thanks for any pointers if such exists.

Gregory Guthrie

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Re: W95 access to Debian files..

1998-05-10 Thread M.C. Vernon
Dear Gregory,

I guess you probably want to send this to the developer's list...
:)

Matthew

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Re: Setup w/large hard drives

1998-05-10 Thread mwb
On Sun, 10 May 1998, Randy Edwards wrote:

> > Why do you need a separate partition to boot from?
> > I have an 800mb root partition (which is more than 1024 cylinders,
> > obviously) and it boots from that just fine, and that's on /dev/hdb
> > too.
> 
> This is what I thought too!  As I said, I initially tried a 64 meg /
> partition thinking I could keep /boot and other things in that space, and then
> have /usr /home /var /tmp, etc., on different partitions just for flexibility.
> But with that situation the install program would not give me the option to
> select the / partition (the first, primary partition on the first hard drive).

With the old IDE drives, the bios did not read past 512k.  So it the
kernel was written to an area past you 1024 (?) cylinders, lilo would
not be able to find it, and then the boot would fail.  As I understand
it, you could get luckly when the kernel was written, and it would fall
in the range that was readable, and it would boot, but the next time
you compiled the kernel you might not get that lucky.  Once the kernel
booted up, you can read past the 512k.  The EIDE cards do not have this
limitation.

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sudo and super

1998-05-10 Thread Lazar Fleysher
HI

Could someone explain to me the difference between the sudo and super
packages. From the description in Packages file  they serve the same
purpose.

Thank you

ZORO


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MBR -- Getting tiresome. I really am sorry! (was Sorry, but I STILL can't sort out my MBR)

1998-05-10 Thread Tristan Day
The

dd if=/boot/boot.0301 of=/dev/hda bs=446 count=1

went through, ("1+0 in, 1+0 out" etc) but made no difference to booting --
still "Lil-" and system hangs.

also tried `lilo -U /dev/hda1' which seemed to work okay but didn't make any
difference to bootup either.

I also tried (treading dangerous ground now!) making every partition
unbootable apart from the NT partition, but that didn't work either, so I
restored it. Currently the ones active are:

/dev/hda6 -- that's my linux partition
/dev/hda2 -- that's a 4mb partition with boot.ini, io.sys and others, for
the NT boot loader
/dev/hda5 -- that's the NTFS partition containing NT

My system _did_ work before -- honest!!

Thank you all for still taking a notice of me (this is the 4th letter
concerning the MBR!)

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DOSEmu 97.7

1998-05-10 Thread Asher Haig
Has anyone managed to make DOSEmu 97.7 work? There doesn't seem to be a 
.deb file, so I downloaded the source from the dosemu site. It compiled 
fine and everything in setup seemed to go fine to the point where I tried 
to run dos. Then I get this error:

CPU speed set to 167/1 MHz
Running on CPU=586, FPU=1, rdtsc=1
CONF: memcheck - Fatal error.  Memory conflict!
Memory at 0x16400:0x is mapped to both:
'Base DOS memory (first 640K)' & '(null)'

Everywhere I've asked, no one seems to know what it is. Nothing I've read 
seems to reference any kind of question like this.

Does anyone know either how I can make this work or where I can get a 
.deb of the newest DOSEmu? (97.7 at this point)


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Re: How to build Debian Linux cluster?

1998-05-10 Thread Tommi Virtanen
On Thu, May 07, 1998 at 05:15:26PM -0600, Kenneth L. Summers wrote:
> > Could you please give more details about that.  Imagine I need to update 
> > some 
> > package (perl for example) on 6 nodes simultaneously, what do I do?
> It was posted a week or so ago, but here's what they said:
>  a) Install one machine with all the packages you like.
>  b) Get the selection with
> dpkg --get-selections > my.selection
>  c) Install the next machine
> Quit dselect after you specified the access method
>  d) Add the selection from the other machine with 
> cat my.selection | dpkg --set-selections
>  e) Run dselect to install the files  Or if you need batch mode
> mount /pub/debian under /mnt and then
> cd /mnt
> dpkg -iGROEB hamm/hamm hamm/contrib hamm/non-free

That's good for selecting packages but if you are
just updating the things, my suggestion would be a
local mirror and apt-get update && apt-get upgrade &&
apt-get clean.

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Re: Setup w/large hard drives

1998-05-10 Thread Nils Rennebarth
On Sun, May 10, 1998 at 11:52:45AM -0400, Randy Edwards wrote:
>Then I took the tactic of one huge, multi-gigabyte partition.  LILO 
> refused to
> install onto that.
> 
>There is one variable here that I haven't mentioned.  This system (SCSI 
> using
> an Adaptec 2920 controller) had a SCSI hard drive as SCSI ID #6, a ZIP drive 
> as
> SCSI ID #5, and a SCSI CD-ROM as SCSI ID #4.  In my mind, Linux should have 
> seen
> the hard drive as /dev/sda, correct?  In this case, Linux kept putting the ZIP
> drive as /dev/sda and the hard drive as /dev/sdb.  Is this the source of my
> problems?  If so, how can one cure that (the Zip drive only allows itself to 
> be
> set as SCSI ID #5 or #6)?
The Adaptec BIOS will try to boot (i.e. load lilo) from the lowest id SCSI
disk it finds. Try to set your hard drive to id #0.

Also put
  linear
in /etc/lilo.conf

Nils

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Re: Setup w/large hard drives

1998-05-10 Thread Nils Rennebarth
On Sat, May 09, 1998 at 09:02:16PM -0400, Randy Edwards wrote:
>I tried setting up bo on a friend's hard drive today -- actually,
> two different hard drives, one IDE and one SCSI, both 3.2 gig drives
> which have more than 1024 cylinders.
What is the drive the computer boots from? Is ist selectable in the BIOS
setup? If not you need to place the master boot record on the one the BIOS
tries to boot from.

>My first attempt was to create a 64 meg primary partition which was
> to be root, then a swap partition, then other partitions.  I did this
> with Debian's regular installation using cfdisk.  However, when it
> came time to make a file system and/or mount the root partition, the
> system would not list out the first partition.
This is strange. Did you try the latest bootdisks? This has however nothing
to do with your lilo problem.

>Could someone give me a tutorial on how one should deal with large
> hard drives with Linux?
This should not be a problem anymore provided that
a) the drive does support LBA addressing (all but a few older drives
will, and yours certainly as IDE drives of that capacity didn't came up much
more than a year ago)
b) the BIOS does support LBA adressing (and I have yet to see a Pentium
Mainboard that does not)

If these conditions are fulfilled please forget all what is written about
large harddrives and lilo and simply put

linear

in /etc/lilo.conf

(In case you really have an old mainboard, try to get a BIOS upgrade first.
If that is not possible, you really need to read the lilo manual carefully,
but no short tutorial will cover this)

Nils

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Re: Connecting to a different LAN

1998-05-10 Thread Nils Rennebarth
On Sun, May 10, 1998 at 11:29:33AM +1000, Hamish Moffatt wrote:
> On Sat, May 09, 1998 at 12:04:25PM +0100, Ian Lynagh wrote:
> > In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Ian Lynagh
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes
> > >However, if I take it to a friends LAN which uses IPs 1.0.x.y then will
> > >I need to change anything? What's the best way of doing this?
> > Something I probably should have mentioned, I don't want my IP address
> > to change. I want to be able to ping the 1.0.x.y addresses from my
> > 192.168.37.mumble address and vica versa.
> 
> In /etc/init.d/network, add a route to 1.0.x.y on your ethernet with no
> gateway. Something like
> 
> route add -net 1.0.x.0 netmask 255.255.255.0 eth0
> 
> should probably do it. Your friend will need to do the same on all his
> hosts, or at least on his gateway, if he has one.
The real solution here is to use ip aliases. If you have the debian kernel
image installed (and are not using a custom one) it is sufficient to use
the ip_alias module

Let's assume a free IP adresss on your friend's subnet is 1.0.2.3
with netmask 255.255.255.0 then the following will do what you want:

# modprobe ip_alias
# ifconfig eth0:0 1.0.2.3 netmask 255.255.255.0 broadcast 1.0.2.255
# route add -net 1.0.2.0

There is no need to do something on the other side.

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Re: ssh question

1998-05-10 Thread Norbert Veber
> ssh CAN replace both rsh and rlogin,  To do things as you would with rsh,
> you use 'ssh '.  The trick is that you must first put the public
> keys for each system into either /etc/ssh or your .ssh directory (in the
> files ssh_known_keys or known_keys respectively).  The easiest way to do
> this is to slogin from one machine to the other, and then do the same from
> the other machine back again - manually approving authentication each
> time (by the way - slogin is just an alias for ssh).

yes, but even then ssh asks for a password, I've tried every authentication
method described in the ssh man page, but I couldn't get it to login without
manual authentication (with rsa keys it asks for the passphrase).  The other
thing I don't like about ssh is that it doesn't enforce the
/etc/login.access /etc/limits or the comment field in /etc/passwd (which
allows you to set the priority at which users processes run at)..  As I have
no real need to have my sessions encrypted, I see no advantage to using ssh
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Getting file information

1998-05-10 Thread Norbert Veber
What is the name of the command in debian that shows information about
files?  Things like last access time, last modification time and so on.  I
could swear that I once used a command 'stat' for this purpose, but it
either wanished, or it never was in debian (might have been in my redhat
days).. 


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XF86Setup not finding where Xfree86 is installed

1998-05-10 Thread Keith
I have downloaded what I belienve to be all of Xfree86. I have followed
the instructions to the letter for installing Xfree86. When I try to run
XF86Setup I get an error saying that it could not find where I have
installed Xfree86 and that I should set the XWINHOME evironment variable
to point to the parent directory. I don't know what they are saying. I
put the path statement in my .bash_profile for /usr/X11R6. the only
thing that I can think of is that i haven't downloaded the right files.
Here is a list of files that I downloaded if this is not right or I need
more files let me know. Also on a couple of these files when I extracted
them after it seemed they extracted I got a message saying 'Broken
Pipe'. This is what I used to extract the files, 'gzip -dc X332bin.tgz |
tar xfB - ' that is what they say to use in the HOW-TO.

X3321upd.tgz
X3328set.tgz
X332bin.tgz
X332cfg.tgz
X332doc.tgz
X332fnts.tgz
X332jdoc.tgz
X332jset.tgz
X332lib.tgz
X332upd.tgz
X332man.tgz
X332set.tgz
X332upd.tgz

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how do I delete not empty directories

1998-05-10 Thread Keith
I have been trying to delete directories that are not empty. I try doing
a rm -d * but I get a response that the operation is not allowed. I am
logged in as root. What am I doing wrong. I am looking something that
works like deltree in dos.

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Re: Getting file information

1998-05-10 Thread robert havoc pennington

On Sun, 10 May 1998, Norbert Veber wrote:
> What is the name of the command in debian that shows information about
> files?  Things like last access time, last modification time and so on.  I
> could swear that I once used a command 'stat' for this purpose, but it
> either wanished, or it never was in debian (might have been in my redhat
> days).. 
> 

There's a stat command, it appears to be in its own package in the "utils"
section.

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Re: ssh question

1998-05-10 Thread Nils Rennebarth
On Sun, May 10, 1998 at 03:28:40PM -0400, Norbert Veber wrote:
> yes, but even then ssh asks for a password, I've tried every authentication
> method described in the ssh man page, but I couldn't get it to login without
> manual authentication
rhosts with RSA host authentication is what you wish.

Be aware that there had been a ssh verision in the debian archives that
didn't try this authentication. The current one is ok.

You will need to have the other host id in your ~/.ssh/known_hosts
and the name in ~/.shosts

Works fine here.

Nils

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Re: how do I delete not empty directories

1998-05-10 Thread Nils Rennebarth
On Sun, May 10, 1998 at 11:10:45AM -0400, Keith wrote:
> I have been trying to delete directories that are not empty. I try doing
> a rm -d * but I get a response that the operation is not allowed. I am
> logged in as root. What am I doing wrong. I am looking something that
> works like deltree in dos.
You want
  rm -r

And it's a dangerous command that can wipe your disk if you are not careful.


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Re: how do I delete not empty directories

1998-05-10 Thread Egon Schmid


On Sun, 10 May 1998, Nils Rennebarth wrote:

> On Sun, May 10, 1998 at 11:10:45AM -0400, Keith wrote:
> > I have been trying to delete directories that are not empty. I try doing
> > a rm -d * but I get a response that the operation is not allowed. I am
> > logged in as root. What am I doing wrong. I am looking something that
> > works like deltree in dos.
> You want
>   rm -r
> 
> And it's a dangerous command that can wipe your disk if you are not careful.

A not so dangerous command would be:

cd dir
rm *
cd ..
rm dir

-Egon


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Re: how do I delete not empty directories

1998-05-10 Thread Ralph Winslow
Keith wrote:
> 
> I have been trying to delete directories that are not empty. I try doing
> a rm -d * but I get a response that the operation is not allowed. I am
> logged in as root. What am I doing wrong. I am looking something that
> works like deltree in dos.

I have no idea how deltree works, but to remove a directory, it's
files, and subdirectory(s) and their files & sub-directory(s):

rm -rf /path/to/the/directory_you_want_to_be_rid_of

will do the job.  man rm will tell you about this and other rm
capabiliies
it detail.
> 
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Re: XF86Setup not finding where Xfree86 is installed

1998-05-10 Thread Oliver Elphick
Keith wrote:
  >I have downloaded what I belienve to be all of Xfree86. I have followed
  >the instructions to the letter for installing Xfree86. When I try to run
  >XF86Setup I get an error saying that it could not find where I have
  >installed Xfree86 and that I should set the XWINHOME evironment variable
  >to point to the parent directory.

I presume you have some reason for not installing the Debian packages of X,
but the consequence is that you get installation problems.  You are also
likely to break your system if you then install a Debian X package without
entirely removing the ones you have just installed now.  Furthermore, if
you ask for help, you may get confusing answers, because people will
assume a Debian package, with files in particular places.

Enough of that...

Normally, most of X is under /usr/X11R6; this is probably where it is
looking for it.  If you have put it (lib, bin) somewhere else, you have
to tell it where.

The syntax would be

  export XWINHOME=/usr/X11R6

or whatever the correct path is.

You mentioned setting PATH; this was correct, but it only allows the
system to find executable programs.  Here XF86Setup is asking where to
find the other parts of X.
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Re: XF86Setup not finding where Xfree86 is installed

1998-05-10 Thread Egon Schmid
Why do you don't use the deb packages and let install dselect this for
you?

A shortcut to  gzip and tar would be

tar xvpfz *.tgz

-Egon

On Sun, 10 May 1998, Keith wrote:

> I have downloaded what I belienve to be all of Xfree86. I have followed
> the instructions to the letter for installing Xfree86. When I try to run
> XF86Setup I get an error saying that it could not find where I have
> installed Xfree86 and that I should set the XWINHOME evironment variable
> to point to the parent directory. I don't know what they are saying. I
> put the path statement in my .bash_profile for /usr/X11R6. the only
> thing that I can think of is that i haven't downloaded the right files.
> Here is a list of files that I downloaded if this is not right or I need
> more files let me know. Also on a couple of these files when I extracted
> them after it seemed they extracted I got a message saying 'Broken
> Pipe'. This is what I used to extract the files, 'gzip -dc X332bin.tgz |
> tar xfB - ' that is what they say to use in the HOW-TO.
> 
> X3321upd.tgz
> X3328set.tgz
> X332bin.tgz
> X332cfg.tgz
> X332doc.tgz
> X332fnts.tgz
> X332jdoc.tgz
> X332jset.tgz
> X332lib.tgz
> X332upd.tgz
> X332man.tgz
> X332set.tgz
> X332upd.tgz


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Re: loadlin problem

1998-05-10 Thread Bob Nielsen
On Sun, 10 May 1998, Gregory Guthrie wrote:

> I have a partition on my W95 hard disk with Debian loaded; and I boot via a
> floppy. I want to switch to booting from W95/DOS; so I tried loadlin.
> Put it into a directory with Linux, root.bin), and tried it.
>   loadlin linux root=/dev/ram initrd=root.bin
> 
> It won't work until one reboots into protected mode DOS first;
> unconvenient, but OK. (There are fast reboot tools for windows, seems like
> this would be a nicer way to go..)

Yes, it does take a while for Win95 to switch to DOS--I seem to recall
that the time is increased if one is using DRVSPACE.

> 
> It boots, but then it wants to do setup, more like a rescue/setup disk that
> a boot disk. Is there a better way?
> 
> Even then, When I ask it to mount an already initialized partition (option
> G), it lists partitions, but not the linux one. If I ask it to list all
> partitions, it shows the ext2 Linux partition, but the mount initialized
> partion doesn't list it. ??


Here's what I use:

d:\loadlin\loadlin  d:\loadlin\bzimage  root=/dev/hda6  ro

This works exactly the same as booting from a floppy or booting Linux
directly with LILO.

Bob 


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Re: ssh question

1998-05-10 Thread G. Kapetanios

Thanks for all the replys. The RSA keys method can be made not to ask for
anything if you put no passphrase, and that is my question. I can do what
I want without a passphrase. But is this safe ?? 
The man page of ssh-keygen says that if you put no passphrase YOU SHOULD
KNOW WHAT YOU ARE DOING. This is the scary bit. The man page does not
bother to explain what the consequences of no passphrase are. Does anyone
know ??
Thanks
George 


On Sun, 10 May 1998, Norbert Veber wrote:

> > ssh CAN replace both rsh and rlogin,  To do things as you would with rsh,
> > you use 'ssh '.  The trick is that you must first put the public
> > keys for each system into either /etc/ssh or your .ssh directory (in the
> > files ssh_known_keys or known_keys respectively).  The easiest way to do
> > this is to slogin from one machine to the other, and then do the same from
> > the other machine back again - manually approving authentication each
> > time (by the way - slogin is just an alias for ssh).
> 
> yes, but even then ssh asks for a password, I've tried every authentication
> method described in the ssh man page, but I couldn't get it to login without
> manual authentication (with rsa keys it asks for the passphrase).  The other
> thing I don't like about ssh is that it doesn't enforce the
> /etc/login.access /etc/limits or the comment field in /etc/passwd (which
> allows you to set the priority at which users processes run at)..  As I have
> no real need to have my sessions encrypted, I see no advantage to using ssh
> over telnet..
> 

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Re: Sound card support

1998-05-10 Thread Bob Nielsen
On Sun, 10 May 1998, M.C. Vernon wrote:

> Dear Debian people,
> 
> How does one configure a sound card, and is the yamaha OPL3-SAx sound
> board supported, and if not, If I connect my driver CD to my website, can
> someone do a driver, please?

Yes, it is supported.  You will have to recompile your kernel.  Install
the kernel source and look at /drivers/sound/Readme.cards.

Bob


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Re: how do I delete not empty directories

1998-05-10 Thread Bob Nielsen
On Sun, 10 May 1998, Keith wrote:

> I have been trying to delete directories that are not empty. I try doing
> a rm -d * but I get a response that the operation is not allowed. I am
> logged in as root. What am I doing wrong. I am looking something that
> works like deltree in dos.

rm -rf


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Re: XF86Setup not finding where Xfree86 is installed

1998-05-10 Thread Bob Nielsen
It is MUCH simpler to install the Debian packages, xbase plus a server,
etc.

On Sun, 10 May 1998, Keith wrote:

> I have downloaded what I belienve to be all of Xfree86. I have followed
> the instructions to the letter for installing Xfree86. When I try to run
> XF86Setup I get an error saying that it could not find where I have
> installed Xfree86 and that I should set the XWINHOME evironment variable
> to point to the parent directory. I don't know what they are saying. I
> put the path statement in my .bash_profile for /usr/X11R6. the only
> thing that I can think of is that i haven't downloaded the right files.
> Here is a list of files that I downloaded if this is not right or I need
> more files let me know. Also on a couple of these files when I extracted
> them after it seemed they extracted I got a message saying 'Broken
> Pipe'. This is what I used to extract the files, 'gzip -dc X332bin.tgz |
> tar xfB - ' that is what they say to use in the HOW-TO.
> 
> X3321upd.tgz
> X3328set.tgz
> X332bin.tgz
> X332cfg.tgz
> X332doc.tgz
> X332fnts.tgz
> X332jdoc.tgz
> X332jset.tgz
> X332lib.tgz
> X332upd.tgz
> X332man.tgz
> X332set.tgz
> X332upd.tgz

Since the linux version of tar supports gzip compression, it would be
easier to use 'tar xzf filename.tgz'.


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Re: how do I delete not empty directories

1998-05-10 Thread Will Lowe
On Sun, 10 May 1998, Keith wrote:

> I have been trying to delete directories that are not empty. I try doing
> a rm -d * but I get a response that the operation is not allowed. I am
> logged in as root. What am I doing wrong. I am looking something that
> works like deltree in dos.

rm -r directoryname

will recursively remove "directoryname" and any files or
directories in it.
 WARNING WARNING WARNING
This is a dangerous command to run as root,  because you can
destroy your system and make it unbootable (like doing "deltree c:\" in
dos) ... make absolutely sure you want to get rid of whatever's in that
tree,  and that your system doesn't need any of that stuff to run...

Will


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NTSC Composite TV Output from X or svgatextmode?

1998-05-10 Thread Jeff Noxon
I'm looking for a way to get NTSC composite video from my computer.
I know that a number of external converter boxes are available, but
I'd rather have it come directly from the video card, if possible.
Do any cards support this under Linux?

I tried an ATI Xpression PC2TV card, and it only worked in 80x25 text
mode -- and looked like crap on my TV.  I'd rather use 40x25 for this,
or possibly 320x200 under X.  I'm developing a custom home theater
application under Linux...

Thanks

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Re: how do I delete not empty directories

1998-05-10 Thread Britton

On Sun, 10 May 1998, Will Lowe wrote:

> On Sun, 10 May 1998, Keith wrote:
> 
> > I have been trying to delete directories that are not empty. I try doing
> > a rm -d * but I get a response that the operation is not allowed. I am
> > logged in as root. What am I doing wrong. I am looking something that
> > works like deltree in dos.
> 
> rm -r directoryname
> 
>   will recursively remove "directoryname" and any files or
> directories in it.
>  WARNING WARNING WARNING
>   This is a dangerous command to run as root,  because you can
> destroy your system and make it unbootable (like doing "deltree c:\" in
> dos) ... make absolutely sure you want to get rid of whatever's in that
> tree,  and that your system doesn't need any of that stuff to run...
> 
>   Will

Good point.  It's actually a dangerous thing to do period.  It's not a
question of if you will one day trash crucial stuff, it's when.  I
reccoment you make up a ~/recycle directory or something like it and then
use mv -R whatever ~/tmp.

> 
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Re: Getting file information

1998-05-10 Thread Will Lowe
On Sun, 10 May 1998, Norbert Veber wrote:

> What is the name of the command in debian that shows information about
> files?  Things like last access time, last modification time and so on.  I
> could swear that I once used a command 'stat' for this purpose, but it
> either wanished, or it never was in debian (might have been in my redhat
> days).. 
> 

ls -l
Will


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Re: how do I delete not empty directories

1998-05-10 Thread Will Lowe
On Sun, 10 May 1998, Britton wrote:

> Good point.  It's actually a dangerous thing to do period.  It's not a
> question of if you will one day trash crucial stuff, it's when.  I
Yes,  I've done this a few times,  so I was speaking from experience.
Always manage to do it when a project's on my drive,  to ...

Will


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Re: how do I delete not empty directories

1998-05-10 Thread M.C. Vernon
Dear all,

Is it essential to send pgp sigs with everything? I can't remove
them with pine before I save the message, and they eat into my space on
cus... 

Thanks :)

Matthew

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libc6 package

1998-05-10 Thread Nuno Carvalho
 Hi,

 I'm trying to do an upgrade from my libc5 system to libc6 !
 I already used the autoup.sh script but unfortunally I still had the error on
'w' command:

$ w
 bad data in /var/run/utmp
 $

 This happens when I make the libc5 (version 5.4.38) upgrade ! So, I'm trying
to upgrade from
an older version (in my case it's 5.4.33-3) that hasn't that error (I think is
the change of struct from the
utmp file) but I still not found a libc6 package that could accept libc5
package !

 So, I'm trying to find a libc6 package which could I install with this libc5
package !

 What I'm doing wrong !?
 What should I do ?
 Could someone tell me where could I get that package ?

 Thanks in advance.

 Best regards,
   Nuno Carvalho


P.S. I'm using Debian Linux 1.3.1


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Re: Stupid question for the day

1998-05-10 Thread Will Lowe
On Sun, 10 May 1998, Randy Edwards wrote:

>I've looked and apropros'ed myself to near death, but nowhere can I
> find out what that command is to automagically set up a program in
> /etc/init.d to run properly at the various run levels.  Last time I
I don't think there is one.

> set one up I did it manually and would like to avoid that this time.
> The program I want to run is simply a series of ipfwadm calls to set
> up my masquerading, 
I do this in /etc/init.d/networks -- just add them to the end of the file.
Of course, this won't work if you want to do it only in certain runlevels.


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Re: Getting file information

1998-05-10 Thread Bob Hilliard
Norbert Veber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> What is the name of the command in debian that shows information about
> files?  Things like last access time, last modification time and so on.  I
> could swear that I once used a command 'stat' for this purpose

 ls -l gives some of this info.  Read the manpage for ls - there
are many options that will get much of this information.

 stat is a C function call that gives all available information
about a file.  There is also a package stat:

   Package: stat
   Priority: optional
   Section: utils
   Installed-Size: 21
   Maintainer: Michael Meskes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
   Architecture: i386
   Version: 1.1-3
   Depends: libc6
   Filename: dists/frozen/main/binary-i386/utils/stat_1.1-3.deb
   Size: 6038
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IPX and Soundcard - loadable modules?

1998-05-10 Thread M.C. Vernon
Dear Debian,

I need support for a soundcard and IPX. I have been informed by
some helpful people that I need to recompile and include support for
these.

Can I do this via loadable modules, or do I need to recompile
(which is scarey for a newbie - how do I do it?)

Thanks for your time,

Matthew

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Re: IPX and Soundcard - loadable modules?

1998-05-10 Thread Z-Y \[Jerry\]
hi, Mr. or Ms. Vernon,
here is what I did for Debian 2.0 kernel re-compiling.
FAQ from debian willl surely help.
URL=http://www.debian.org/doc/FAQ/debian-faq-10.html

#you have to be root or alike.
#change to where you installed the kernel source. 
#linux is a symbolic link to your kernel source. Mine is kernel-source-2.0.33
cd /usr/src/linux
#answer 'y' to sound support and '?' to see help
make config
# start to compile kernel. It may take quite a while on a 486.
make-kpkg --revision 2 --zImage
#make-kpkg is supposed to make a .deb file. But, it didn't on mine.
#otherwise you may install the new kernel like just another debian package.
make dep
#for the illusionary

make modules
make modules_install
#you many need to do this if you have choose to run as modules.

cp /boot/System.map-2.0.33 /boot/System.map.old
cp System.map /boot/System.map-2.0.33
cd /usr/src/linux/arch/i386/boot #where zImage locates.
cp zImage /boot/vmlinuz.new
cp zImage /dev/fd0  #to make a bootable floppy with the new kernel
vi /etc/lilo.conf
# to reflect change #keep the old one untouched: a good practice.
#and try it out without doing anythign real
/sbin/lilo -Nv
# run lilo for real, in verbose mode.
/sbin/lilo -v
#reboot with new kernel.
shutdown -r now
#after several days of trial running.
cd /usr/src/linux
make clean

Good luck.

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On Sun, 10 May 1998, M.C. Vernon wrote:

> Dear Debian,
> 
>   I need support for a soundcard and IPX. I have been informed by
> some helpful people that I need to recompile and include support for
> these.
> 
>   Can I do this via loadable modules, or do I need to recompile
> (which is scarey for a newbie - how do I do it?)
> 
> Thanks for your time,
> 
> Matthew
> 
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> 
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> Selwyn College Computer Support
> http://www.geocities.com/Area51/Chamber/8841/
> http://www.cam.ac.uk/CambUniv/Societies/tolkien/
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Re: How to build Debian Linux cluster?

1998-05-10 Thread Kenneth L. Summers
> 
>   That's good for selecting packages but if you are
>   just updating the things, my suggestion would be a
>   local mirror and apt-get update && apt-get upgrade &&
>   apt-get clean.
> 

What is apt-get?  I can't find any references to it anywhere on my system...

Ken


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Re: ssh question

1998-05-10 Thread Chris


On Sun, 10 May 1998, G. Kapetanios wrote:

> 
> Thanks for all the replys. The RSA keys method can be made not to ask for
> anything if you put no passphrase, and that is my question. I can do what
> I want without a passphrase. But is this safe ?? 
> The man page of ssh-keygen says that if you put no passphrase YOU SHOULD
> KNOW WHAT YOU ARE DOING. This is the scary bit. The man page does not
> bother to explain what the consequences of no passphrase are. Does anyone
> know ??
> Thanks
> George 


>From my understanding (which is far from complete) ssh does its
main authentication via two public/private keys (one for the server and
one for the client).  When you first connect via ssh there is a
chalenge/answer session that goes on so that the server can confirm the
identity of the client.  Once this is confimed the session is encrypted
and from there it is just like rsh.  So the passphrase prompt you see is
the same as you would get when using rsh from an untrusted client.

Thus if the client truely is a 'trusted' host then you can set it up so
that you don't need to enter the passphrase.  This is alot safer than
using rsh from a 'trusted' host, as you are not open to spoof attacks
(where some other machine pretends to be the trusted host).

On the other hand, I'm sure there are some *extremely* complicated ways to
abuse the trust of the server to gain entry to the system from somewhere
else - but if you trust your network enough to use rsh with no passphrase,
then you will have no worries about using ssh with no passphrase.

Chris


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Re: Tulip Network drive

1998-05-10 Thread aqy6633
> (Alex Yukhimets) wrote:
> > 
> > >   Does the hamm/kernel_2.0.33 include the Tulip network drive?
> > 
> > Yes, but you may need to download and compile newer version of the "tulip"
> > driver depending on the particular card you use. (I had to.)

>   I have a NetGear 10/100 Fast Ethenet Card.  Does this require
>   a newer version of the "tulip"?

No idea :)
I would give a 50/50 chance. You will see whether your card will _work_.
(It will be recognized by the kernel in any case).
In general, refer to http://cesdis.gsfc.nasa.gov/linux/drivers/tulip.html
This is _the_source_ of the information about tulip driver.

Goos luck.

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Re: how do I delete not empty directories

1998-05-10 Thread aqy6633
> I have been trying to delete directories that are not empty. I try doing
> a rm -d * but I get a response that the operation is not allowed. I am
> logged in as root. What am I doing wrong. I am looking something that
> works like deltree in dos.

rm -rf dirname

In general, refer to "man rm", or "man ". They have ALL the answers.

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Re: How to build Debian Linux cluster?

1998-05-10 Thread Tommi Virtanen
On Sun, May 10, 1998 at 05:16:09PM -0600, Kenneth L. Summers wrote:
> > That's good for selecting packages but if you are
> > just updating the things, my suggestion would be a
> > local mirror and apt-get update && apt-get upgrade &&
> > apt-get clean.
> What is apt-get?  I can't find any references to it anywhere on my system...

It's the backbone for Apt, a replacement for dselect
(The (G)UI is still in development, although the snapshot
looked great.) Look at project/experimental.
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Re: Tulip Network drive

1998-05-10 Thread Ian Keith Setford

Yo-

> > > >   Does the hamm/kernel_2.0.33 include the Tulip network drive?
> > > 
> > > Yes, but you may need to download and compile newer version of the "tulip"
> > > driver depending on the particular card you use. (I had to.)
> 
> >   I have a NetGear 10/100 Fast Ethenet Card.  Does this require
> >   a newer version of the "tulip"?
> 
> No idea :)
> I would give a 50/50 chance. You will see whether your card will _work_.
> (It will be recognized by the kernel in any case).
> In general, refer to http://cesdis.gsfc.nasa.gov/linux/drivers/tulip.html
> This is _the_source_ of the information about tulip driver.

I have the same network card.  Driver support is included in kernels
higher than 2.0.32.  So if you are using 2.0.33 all you have to do is
compile in support for the card.  Don Becker's driver works great and it
will still auto-sense the "spped" of your network and adjust itself
accordingly.

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Re: How to build Debian Linux cluster?

1998-05-10 Thread Will Lowe
On Sun, 10 May 1998, Kenneth L. Summers wrote:

> What is apt-get?  I can't find any references to it anywhere on my system...

Like someone's already said,  it's the new package manager interface
backend.  I'd suggest you get it from project/experimental.  It can be
used as a method for dselect (after installing apt-get,  hit the "access"
command in dselect) and it seems to be much faster and niftier.

Will


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