Re: network monitoring program

1997-08-29 Thread David Fries
On %M %N, Paul Miller wrote
> I'm looking for a program that will log when the network goes down and
> possiblely create a summary file.

You should look at SNMP, Simple Network Management Protocol.  

[from Linux Journal June 1997]
Network Management & Monitoring with Linux,

One of the most popular SNMP packages is CMU-SNMP.  Originally
designed by Carnegie Mellon University, it has been ported to Linux by
Juergen Schoenwaelder and Erik Schoenfelder.  It's fully complient
with the SNMPv1 standard and includes some of the new proposed
functinalities of SNMPv2.
ftp://sunsite.unc.edu/pub/Linux/system/network/admin/cmu-snmp-linux-3.2-bin.tar.gz

PERL 5 module extension for CMU-SNMP:
ftp://ftp.wellfleet.com/netman/snmp/perl5/SNMP.tar.gz

MRTG: Multi Router Traffic Grapher, ...graphically represents the data
SNMP agents brings to SNMP managers.  It generates nice HTML pages
with GIF graphics about inbound and outbound traffic in network
interfaces in almost real time.
http://www.ee.ethz.ch/~oetiker/webtools/mrtg/mrtg.html
GD Graphic Library(required by MRTG)
http://www.boutell.com/gd/
Router Stats:
http://www.scn.ed/~iain/router-stats/
SNMP Network Management Software
http://wwwsnmp.cs.utwente.nl/software
scotty for Linux
ftp://sunsite.unc.edu/pub/Linux/system/network/admin/tkined-1.3.4+scotty-ELF.tar.gz

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[OFF-TOPIC] RC5 challenge and linux

1997-08-29 Thread Tommy Lakofski
Hi,

I'd like to encourage all readers on the list with a reasonably regular
connection to the internet to download and run the rc5v2 client from
http://rc5.distributed.net/ (download the client at
ftp://ftp.distributed.net/pub/rc5/v2.004/rc5v2b4-linux-x86.tar.gz)

The client runs with a nicelevel of 19, so it shouldn't disrupt the normal
operation of your machine.  There's a collective effort for Linux at
http://www.linuxnet.org/ which is right now running second place overall,
third place in today's stats only.  I was hoping that by drawing in some
readers of this list, we help could knock Apple off the top place. (That's
right, Apple. I guess someone in Cupertino made it corporate policy to run
the PPC client on every desktop... which would be disastrous for
productivity given the tasking architecture of the MacOS ;) If you set
your id to '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' you contribute your idle processor cycles
to the collective effort. (You can run it in the background as an ordinary
user with 'exec rc5v2 &')

Hope some of you join in,

TL


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Re: ftp: how to continue downloading?

1997-08-29 Thread Tommy Lakofski
Try 'reget' in regular ftp. ncftp does it automatically, as far as I
remember...

On Fri, 29 Aug 1997, dada wrote:

> From: dada <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: debian 
> Date: Fri, 29 Aug 1997 01:55:11 +0200
> Subject: ftp: how to continue downloading?
> 
> hi...
> 
> how can continue downloading an file, when the i lost the conexion to
> the server,from the file point where I am before I lost the conexion?


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Re: [OFF TOPIC] What happened to spam,abuse.org?

1997-08-29 Thread Bruce Perens
From: Nathan E Norman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Anyone know what happened to abuse.org?  Were they attacked?  They seem
> to be removed from DNS ... at least, my servers think so.

They were removed from your head :-)

It's abuse.NET .

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Re: Debian 1.3 / Adaptec 284x VLB - problem

1997-08-29 Thread Damir J. Naden
Hi Benjamin de Coninck Owe; unless Mutt is confused,on Aug 28, you wrote :
> I am trying to install debian 1.3 om my pc:
>   
> ALI motherboard
> Phoenix BIOS 4.03
> I486 DX4 - 100MhZ
> Adaptec 2840A / 42A
> 
> I am having trouble. Booting the rescuedisk at boot prompt I write:
> 
> boot: linux aic7xxx=no_reset
> 
> loading the kernel the computer writes:
> 
> 
> (aic7xxx): Encoutered spurious interrupt
> 
> scsi0: Adaptec AHA274x/284x/294x (EISA/VLB/PCI-fast SCSI)
> scsi: 1 host.
> scsi0: Scanning channel A for devices
> scsi: Aborting command due to timeout: pid 0, id 0, lun 0, Test Unit
> Ready 00 00 00 00 00
> aic7xxx: (abort) Aborting scb 0, TCL 0/0/0
> scsi: Aborting command due to timeout: pid 0, id 0, lun 0, Test Unit
> Ready 00 00 00 00 00
> aic7xxx: (abort) Aborting scb 0, TCL 0/0/0
> SCSI host 0 abort (pid 0) timed out - resetting
> SCSI bus is being reset for host 0 channel 0.
> aic7xxx: (reset) target/channel 0/0
> aic7xxx: (abort_reset) scb state 0x1, while idle, LASTPHASE = 0xff,
> SCSISIGI = 0x0
> aic7xxx: (reset_device) target/channel -1/A, active_scb 0
> aic7xxx: (match_scb) target/channel -1/A to scb 0/A
> aic7xxx: (match_scb) target/channel -1/A to scb 0/A
> aic7xxx: (reset_channel) Resetting current channel A
> aic7xxx: (done_aborted_scbs) Aborting scb 0, TCL=0/0/0
> scsi0: BRKADRINT error (0x1)
>Illegal Host Access
> Kernel panic: scsi0: BRKADRINT, error 0x1, seqaddr 0x0
> 
> In swapper task - not syncing
> 
> I am having no trouble whatsoever booting the currently installes DOS
> 5.0 on the harddisk. Everything seems to work perfectly, the SCSI bus is
> terminated correctly.
> 
> What should I do?
>

You should get (if you can) a 'custom tailored' set of boot floppies (or
at least the first floppy that do _not_ have any other SCSI drivers but
the one for AIC7xxx card. Adaptec cards seem to be _very_ picky about
some probing done for other sorts of cards...
HTH
DamirN

P.S. To Debian leadership: Is there ever going to be a separate boot
floppy images officialy released by Debian for this purpose? This is a
second post about  this problem in last two weeks...Thank you.


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domain name resolution

1997-08-29 Thread Mark Stone
I've just done my first Debian installation, after having used Slackware
for a couple of years, and I've got my ppp connection working. My next
challenge is to get domain name resolution working properly so I can
navigate by something other than IP number.

My IP number is assigned dynamically by my ISP. In Slackware, configuring
domain name resolution is a matter of having my ISP's machine listed in
etc/hosts, and having the IP number of my ISP's name server listed as a
name server in /etc/resolv.conf. In Debian, however, the resolv.conf file
does not appear to be present, and adding it does not appear to help.
Where does Debian look for a name server for a dynamically assigned PPP
connection?


Mark Stone


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DNS

1997-08-29 Thread d-erebos
Mark, 

  Can you please tel me if you got this? I only subscribed today..

DNS in Debian is the same as slackware as far as i know..

IE. MY isp does dynamic DNS..

PRI DNS=203.17.154.33
NO SECONDRY DNS

/etc/resolv.conf

  search dynamite.com.au
  nameserver 203.17.154.33


that's all you need.

/etc/hosts

127.0.0.1   darklairlocalhost
0.0.0.0 darklair

 that works fine for me.. try that..

make sure your not in /etc when you try a DNS query (no idea why, but 
on
my machine it wont work if i'm in /etc)

Good luck!




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Netscape font question

1997-08-29 Thread Andy Kahn USG

Hi all,

i recently installed Debian and even more recently put Netscape
on my system as well.  when launching Netscape, it complains:

Warning: Cannot convert string 
"-*-helvetica-bold-r-*-*-*-120-*-*-*-*-iso8859-*" to type FontStruct
Warning: Cannot convert string 
"-*-courier-medium-r-*-*-*-120-*-*-*-*-iso8859-*" to type FontStruct
Warning: Cannot convert string 
"-*-helvetica-medium-r-*-*-*-120-*-*-*-*-iso8859-*" to type FontStruct
Warning: Cannot convert string 
"-*-helvetica-medium-r-*-*-*-100-*-*-*-*-iso8859-*" to type FontStruct
Warning: Cannot convert string 
"-*-helvetica-bold-r-*-*-*-100-*-*-*-*-iso8859-*" to type FontStruct
Warning: Cannot convert string 
"-*-helvetica-medium-o-*-*-*-100-*-*-*-*-iso8859-*" to type FontStruct


can anyone tell me where these fonts are located?

thanks,
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Current qpopper compatible with qmail? (~/Mailbox)

1997-08-29 Thread Dave Cinege

I'm moving to qmail from smail. I can't get qpopper working.
What I can find in the qmail docs says qpopper 2.2 needs a recompile to work 
with ~/Mailbox. Is the current version compatible in anyway, or do I need to 
grab 
the source?

What about cucipop?
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Re: Netscape font question

1997-08-29 Thread d-erebos
Make sure you install 75, pex and a few others, then add the dirs(
/usr/X11R6/lib/fonts (i think ) to /etc/XF86Config for slackwaare,
and redhat + debian it's /etc/X11/XF86Config




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MATSHITA CW-7501 CD-R

1997-08-29 Thread rir
Does anyone know if the MATSHITA CW-7501
scsi cd-r will work with current tools
under debian (bo).

Thanks.

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Re: 3C509B ISA Detection

1997-08-29 Thread A. M. Varon
On Thu, 28 Aug 1997, Darin D. wrote:

> Hi.  I will try and make this as brief as possible while trying to explain
> everything I have tried.

Hi,

This is what I can think of:

1. Try to disable the boot prom.  

2. Your transciever type must be BNC if your using coax cabling, RJ-45 if
you are using UTP cables. 

3. Remove the 3c509b card, run Debian, and check to see if there are
devices in your computer that conflicts with your card. Try:

cat /proc/interrupts
cat /proc/ioports

And check if a device is using irq 10 and IO 0300. 

Use your etherdisk diagnostic card to change the settings of the above.

And lastly, Make a hard boot (turn off the power of the computer.) not a
soft boot (pressing the reset button.) when you change the settings of the
3c509b card, just to be sure.


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Re: Cursor vanishes when LILO loads and doesn't return

1997-08-29 Thread Michael Rokicki
> It's pretty clear the kernel knows what CPU it is.
> 
> > my environment has "HOSTTYPE=i586".  It's an AMD chip.
> 
> Tell me what the output of the "arch" command is, please.

The output is "i386".

> Oh. It's slightly harder under Linux because the system is in protected mode.
> Can you tell me exactly what you type into "debug"?

MOV CX, 0707
MOV AH, 01
INT 10 
INT 20   

Nothing complex to do in dos but I haven't found my starting place yet 
when it comes to Linux.  If you can recommend a starting package, it'd be 
great.

Thanks,
Michael

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update-menus failed?

1997-08-29 Thread Gonzalo Diethelm
I installed the netscape package, with the netscape binary file in
/tmp, just as the instructions said. The thing installed OK, and was
configured OK, but at the end of the process I got the following
message:

..
- Netscape will not be able to read user mail spool files unless you set
  the "external movemail program" to "/usr/lib/netscape/movemail". Changing
  the permissions of /var/spool/mail to 1777 (as suggested by Netscape) will
  introduce a small security hole which, under some circumstances, could
  allow someone else to get access to another's mail.

Update-menus: waiting for dpkg to finish (forking to background)
Update-menus: (checking /var/lib/dpkg/lock)
Installation OK.  Hit RETURN.  shell-init: could not get current
directory: get\cwd: cannot access parent directories

Is this of any importance? Is there anything I can do to fix this? I
think I remember a post regarding this issue a while ago, something
like there is a command spawned by root that runs as a different user,
and that user doesn't have read access to all the directories in the
path to a certain file. Is this it?

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Re: Applixware

1997-08-29 Thread Shaya Potter

Chad, figure out how to make a "patch" file for applix and people will
then be able to use alien with the "patch" file on the applix rpm to get a
good deb from it.

Shaya


On Thu, 28 Aug 1997, Chad D. Zimmerman wrote:

> On Wed, 27 Aug 1997, Mr Stuart Lamble wrote:
> 
> > In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> you wrote:
> > : On Mon, 25 Aug 1997 06:56:55 -0400, Tom Malloy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > : > Is anyone using redhats applixware on debian?  How is it?  The install
> > : > difficult? Is it worth buying?  I want to migrate away from msoffice and
> > : > use linux exclusively if possible.  Thanks
> > : > 
> > : 
> > : Try out StarOffice before you decide which office suit to use together
> > : with Linux. I have found it very nice ... and version 3.1 is free if
> > : you use it in a non-commercial purpose.
> > : 
> > : Check it out at:
> > : http://www.stardiv.de/
> > : 
> > : I don't think you'll find any difficulties installing Applixware. If
> > : I'm right there is an non-rpm installation included on the cd.
> > 
> > I've had a play around with StarOffice; the main reason I didn't get it
> > is because I don't have a 'Net connection at home, and the prospect of
> > lugging everything back on 1.44MB floppies doesn't really appeal. I've
> > forked out $99AUS for the student edition of Applixware; it's nice. Very
> > nice. My only beef: the non-rpm installation tries to install everything
> > into /opt. Not a good move, especially since my 30MB root partition only
> > had 15MB free
> 
> Use the .rpm and run `alien applix*.rpm`, after some quik debugging and
> installing dpkg-dev from hamm and 3 hours of building ... slow system
> here.  I installed the created .deb and have been using it all day ...
> very nice .. better than Star Office which had quit wanting to run at all.
>  
> > I ended up test driving Redhat for a while on my /home partition (don't
> > ask, please); whilst I was dding that, I installed Applixware somewhere
> > in /usr/local. (under Debian, that would have been /home/usr/local/ ...
> > as I said, don't ask :)
> > 
> > Tar it up, untar it into the Debian /usr/local heirachy, and everything is
> > happy happy joy joy. (with some script editing, of course.) One of these
> > days, I might get around to doing some work on an installation package. In
> > my Copious Spare Time, naturally. ;)
> 
> I have the applix.deb now .. even though it is 37MB .. no way in hades am
> I gona delete it ... don't wana go through all that alien stuff again.
> 
> chad
> 
> > -- 
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Help with install: WD7000 Controller and NE2000 card

1997-08-29 Thread Matthew Knapp
Package: kernel-image
Version: 1.3.1 distribution

The kernal in version 1.3.1 has problems with the WD7000 driver. Upon
probing for the WD7000, which I do NOT have in the system, in the initial
boot sequence (for installation) it drops the link light on the hub for the
ne2000 card. Later, when given the option to install an ethernet card it
finds the card at the set IRQ and IO address but still will not bring back
up the link. 

To rule out problems with the BUSLOGIC card I removed it and booted without
it in and had the same problems when it probed for the WD7000 card. 

ANY SUGGESTIONS I need to install via FTP but cannot with this problem!

Thanks,

Matthew Knapp 

FYI, I am running a system with the following configuration:
Pentium 60
40 MB Ram
Buslogic Flashpoint SCSI card
NE 2000 compat ethernet card
IDE controller
ATI Mach 32 vid card


Thanks,

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Devices?

1997-08-29 Thread PATRICK DAHIROC
Thanks for the help I'm able connect now just by using 'pon' after reading
the README.debian in usr/doc/ppp.

But I'm still puzzled by devices for starter when I boot up Linux I get
the message:
...
/dev/ttyS0 at 0x03f8 (irq=4) is a 16550A
/dev/ttyS1 at ?x (irq=3) is a 16550A
...
I believe 16550A is a type of modem right?  But a couple of lines after
this messages comes:
...
Starting mouse interface server: gpm -m /dev/ttySO -t bare
...
I have a PS/2 mouse how come it needs a serial driver? Are PS/2
devices and serial devices the same (My mouse works fine). And if
/dev/ttyS0 is a modem why is the mouse using this device?  Can someone
make any sense of these?

Thanks
Patrick

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Re: Current qpopper compatible with qmail? (~/Mailbox)

1997-08-29 Thread Amos Shapira
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> you write:
|
|I'm moving to qmail from smail. I can't get qpopper working.
|What I can find in the qmail docs says qpopper 2.2 needs a recompile to work 
|with ~/Mailbox. Is the current version compatible in anyway, or do I need to g
|rab 
|the source?

It sounds like you are confusing here qpopper to belong to qmail - it
isn't. (The "Q" in qpopper standas for "Qualcomm").

As far as I can tell, the qmail package for Debian is missing a piece
of software called "checkpassword"
(ftp://koobera.math.uic.edu/pub/software/checkpassword-0.76.tar.gz).
There are a few alternatives floating around.  Look at
http://www.qmail.org.

Could the person who built the Debian qmail package include
checkapssword? (or explain why this is not possible/necessary?)
Better yet - include some alternatives as described in www.qmai.org.

|What about cucipop?

Look around at the page I mentioned above, there are some patches for
popular POP servers, and it is claimed to be not difficult to tweak
anything to start using MailDirs.

Hope this helps,

--Amos

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Re: Linux in Wired (fwd)

1997-08-29 Thread Fredrik Ax

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Date: Thu, 28 Aug 1997 15:45:06 +0200 (CEST)
From: Fredrik Ax <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: Peter S Galbraith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Linux in Wired 

On Thu, 28 Aug 1997, Peter S Galbraith wrote:
> 
> Fredik Ax wrote:
> 
> > I disagree! The office suits for Linux (e.g. StarOffice and
> > Applixware) are starting to get really good. I can't really see any
> > need to run this kind of applications on a windoze system.
> 
> Can they import and create Word documents?
> That's *my* problem.  The rest of the Department expects me to provide
> Word documents.  If I could do that in Linux using StarOffice
> or Applixware, I'd never need Windows.

Since (for some creepy reason) our company's documentation standard is 
M$ Word, I myself have similair problem.

At the moment I'm using swriter3 (Word Processor included in StarOffice
3.1) which reads Word 6 documents perfectly. It even gets all
"self-updating" fields like filename and pagenumber etc right. I'm sorry
to say so (and I can't understand why)  but creating word documents isn't
swriter3's strong side. Lot of information get lost (like justification of
text etc) when exporting as a word document, but it's at least
readable by M$ Word. I have heard that Applixware version 4.2 should be
able to export M$ Word documents somewhat better than StarOffice, but I
haven't tried it myself yet.

Don't give in to them ... keep using a real OS!
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Re: 3C509B ISA Detection

1997-08-29 Thread Nils Rennebarth
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On Thu, 28 Aug 1997, Darin D. wrote:
>Simply put, I cannot get my 3Com Etherlink III (3C509B) to work with
>Debian Linux 1.3.1 kernel 2.0.29. (i486DX4 VLB w/16MB)

Is any card using 0x300 as IO address?

Try removing as many other cards as possible and see if the 3c509 finally
gets detected

Nils

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Re: Devices?

1997-08-29 Thread Oliver Elphick
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, writes:
  >Thanks for the help I'm able connect now just by using 'pon' after reading
  >the README.debian in usr/doc/ppp.
  >
  >But I'm still puzzled by devices for starter when I boot up Linux I get
  >the message:
  > ...
  > /dev/ttyS0 at 0x03f8 (irq=4) is a 16550A
  > /dev/ttyS1 at ?x (irq=3) is a 16550A
  > ...
  >I believe 16550A is a type of modem right? 

No. The 16550A is the UART chip in your serial I/O interface.

  >   But a couple of lines after
  >this messages comes:
  > ...
  > Starting mouse interface server: gpm -m /dev/ttySO -t bare
  > ...
  >I have a PS/2 mouse how come it needs a serial driver? Are PS/2
  >devices and serial devices the same (My mouse works fine). And if
  >/dev/ttyS0 is a modem why is the mouse using this device?  Can someone
  >make any sense of these?

If you have a PS/2 mouse, this line is wrong and will be causing problems.
The correct device is /dev/psaux.  You have gpm looking at your first
serial port for a mouse, which it won't find.

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Pentium II Boards

1997-08-29 Thread Markus Diesmann
Hi,

we are planning to buy a two processor board to be prepared for
future demands. However, currently we want to use it with a single
processor.

We are considering a
TYAN S1682D, Dual Pentium II  board
with a Pentium II 266MHz processor.

I looked at the hardware compatibility HOWTO but couldn't 
find any information about Pentium II.

Do we have to expect any problems using it with Debian ?
Did anybody try this configuration?

Thanks
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Re: 3C509B ISA Detection

1997-08-29 Thread Joost Kooij
Darin D. wrote:
> 
> Simply put, I cannot get my 3Com Etherlink III (3C509B) to work with
> Debian Linux 1.3.1 kernel 2.0.29. (i486DX4 VLB w/16MB)

Here, no problems with a 3C509B. I disabled pnp and set the irq to 5
(for arbitrary reasons.)
IIRC it worked fine already with the default kernel, but I built a
leaner one with 3C509 support rolled in.
Again, no problems at all.

What do you get from `cat /proc/{interrupts,io}` ?

> I have recompiled the kernel with static and module support.  I have
> tried 'insmod' and 'modprobe -a 3c509.o' and get back things like
> device or resoure busy and '/lib/modules/2.0.29/net/3c509.o unresolved
> symbol mca_set_adapter_name, mca_find_adaptor, mca_read_stored_pos.

Doesn't the "mca" in these messages refer to the IBM MCA bus "standard"? 
Wouldn't that interfere with the VLB bus tou say you have?

Before I found out that my 3C509 went into a genuine PCI pentium, I
thought for a while that the IBM Personal Computer 330 does MCA too -
which it doesn't. Anyway, while reading about MCA I understood that it
does some autodetecting on your busses. Maybe that would be the reason
why your card is not seen by the kernel. Did you compile some kind of
MCA support/compatibility in? Just a wild guess, I hope it helps you.
 
> I finally went to the point of reinstalling Debian and when I tried the
> module probe for the 3C509 series I got device or resoure busy.  The card
> lights up fine in the back as well.

I guess you probed with irq and io parameters and without (to
autodetect)?

> Now when I boot up I get the SCIOCC... problems talked about in the
> Ethernet-HOWTO.  I think these come from my /etc/init/d/network file which
> has all of the 'ifconfig' commands.  But no where do I see in 'dmesg |
> more' anything about my ethernet card.

The messages are caused by the absense of a network interface.


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Re: imake

1997-08-29 Thread Debian mail-lists receiver
I did a "dpkg --search imake" on my system, and it reports that it is part of
the "xlib6-dev" package:

(cc37450-a)hnine:/home/hnine[508]$ dpkg --search /usr/X11R6/bin/imake
xlib6-dev: /usr/X11R6/bin/imake
(cc37450-a)hnine:/home/hnine[509]$ 


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Re: Devices?

1997-08-29 Thread Debian mail-lists receiver

  >   But a couple of lines after
  >this messages comes:
  > ...
  > Starting mouse interface server: gpm -m /dev/ttySO -t bare
  > ...
  >I have a PS/2 mouse how come it needs a serial driver? Are PS/2
  >devices and serial devices the same (My mouse works fine). And if
  >/dev/ttyS0 is a modem why is the mouse using this device?  Can 
someone
  >make any sense of these?

>   If you have a PS/2 mouse, this line is wrong and will be causing 
> problems.
>   The correct device is /dev/psaux.  You have gpm looking at your first
>   serial port for a mouse, which it won't find.


You may have to recompile your kernel so that it supports the /dev/psaux device.
The option to have the kernel support non-serial mice is under the "Character 
Devices"
section when you type "make menuconfig" under the "/usr/src/linux" directory
(you'll need to install the kernel-header and kernel-source deb packages first).

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Re: Devices?

1997-08-29 Thread Joost Kooij
PATRICK DAHIROC wrote:

> But I'm still puzzled by devices for starter when I boot up Linux I get
> the message:
> ...
> /dev/ttyS0 at 0x03f8 (irq=4) is a 16550A
> /dev/ttyS1 at ?x (irq=3) is a 16550A
> ...
> I believe 16550A is a type of modem right?  But a couple of lines after
> this messages comes:
> ...
> Starting mouse interface server: gpm -m /dev/ttySO -t bare
> ...
> I have a PS/2 mouse how come it needs a serial driver? Are PS/2
> devices and serial devices the same (My mouse works fine). And if
> /dev/ttyS0 is a modem why is the mouse using this device?  Can someone
> make any sense of these?

The 16650 is an UART chip, it drives the serial port hardware (it is the
serial port in a sense.)

"gpm -m /dev/ttySO -t bare" would be wrong in any case. 
 ^
If it is a ttyS0 instead of ttySO then that means that gpm is listening
to the first serial port. If you use a PS/2 mouse then it will probably
hear not much there. Set it to listen to /dev/psaux and it will listen
to the PS/2 port.

The script you would have to edit is /etc/init.d/gpm, but running
`gpmconfig` would be just fine as well. 

`man gpm` is your friend and /usr/doc/gpm has the general documentation
to gpm.


Joost

> 
> Thanks
> Patrick
> 
> P.S. Can you recommend a good book on writing bash shell scripts.
> 
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Re: [OFF-TOPIC] RC5 challenge and linux

1997-08-29 Thread Debian mail-lists receiver
>I'd like to encourage all readers on the list with a reasonably regular
>connection to the internet to download and run the rc5v2 client from
>http://rc5.distributed.net/ (download the client at
>ftp://ftp.distributed.net/pub/rc5/v2.004/rc5v2b4-linux-x86.tar.gz)

What's RC5?

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Re: Devices?

1997-08-29 Thread Jean Pierre LeJacq
On Fri, 29 Aug 1997, PATRICK DAHIROC wrote:

>   /dev/ttyS0 at 0x03f8 (irq=4) is a 16550A
>   /dev/ttyS1 at ?x (irq=3) is a 16550A
>   ...
> I believe 16550A is a type of modem right?  But a couple of lines after
> this messages comes:

No.  Its a UART which is a controller chip for your serial ports.

>   Starting mouse interface server: gpm -m /dev/ttySO -t bare
>   ...
> I have a PS/2 mouse how come it needs a serial driver? Are PS/2
> devices and serial devices the same (My mouse works fine). And if
> /dev/ttyS0 is a modem why is the mouse using this device?  Can someone
> make any sense of these?

I believe your correct.  PS/2 is a bus mouse and shouldn't require a
serial driver.  This is probably being started in one of the programs
in /etc/init.d which you can edit out it you like.

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Re: Where's my mouse?

1997-08-29 Thread Alfonso E. Urdaneta
Keith Beattie wrote:

> It's a two-button Logitech.  (It has MicroSoft printed on it but I
> think that's just for marketing.)  It's got a small round adaptor that
> plugs into the back of the tower.  I assume this all means it's a
> serial device on the bus, right?

I had to get one of those round adaptor thingys to a nine pin serial and
plugged it into a serial port to get it to work on mine using s0.

Alfonso.


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Re: Linux in Wired (fwd)

1997-08-29 Thread Chad D. Zimmerman
On Fri, 29 Aug 1997, Fredrik Ax wrote:

> 
> -- Forwarded message --
> Date: Thu, 28 Aug 1997 15:45:06 +0200 (CEST)
> From: Fredrik Ax <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: Peter S Galbraith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: Linux in Wired 
> 
> On Thu, 28 Aug 1997, Peter S Galbraith wrote:
> > 
> > Fredik Ax wrote:
> > 
> > > I disagree! The office suits for Linux (e.g. StarOffice and
> > > Applixware) are starting to get really good. I can't really see any
> > > need to run this kind of applications on a windoze system.
> > 
> > Can they import and create Word documents?
> > That's *my* problem.  The rest of the Department expects me to provide
> > Word documents.  If I could do that in Linux using StarOffice
> > or Applixware, I'd never need Windows.
> 
> Since (for some creepy reason) our company's documentation standard is 
> M$ Word, I myself have similair problem.

Installed Applix the other night.  I like it just as much as Office95/97
little slow on my system ... but I will be upgrading it in a couple of
months.

As for file importing and exporting ... Applix Words can bring in almost
everything that word and wordperfect can open/import.  It does not like
nor will it open fast save documents though .. comes up with an
incompatable format error.

Exporting is nice too ... rtf and word, html, word perfect (down to
version 3 on both I think) and several other formats.  I have been using
the rtf format lately.

On the whole .. I like it a lot better that StarOffice (which decided to
stop working) .. I havn't tried bring a staroffice file into applix yet ..
that will be next test I guess.

Chad
 
> At the moment I'm using swriter3 (Word Processor included in StarOffice
> 3.1) which reads Word 6 documents perfectly. It even gets all
> "self-updating" fields like filename and pagenumber etc right. I'm sorry
> to say so (and I can't understand why)  but creating word documents isn't
> swriter3's strong side. Lot of information get lost (like justification of
> text etc) when exporting as a word document, but it's at least
> readable by M$ Word. I have heard that Applixware version 4.2 should be
> able to export M$ Word documents somewhat better than StarOffice, but I
> haven't tried it myself yet.
> 
> Don't give in to them ... keep using a real OS!
> Fredrik Ax
> 
> 
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Re: [OFF-TOPIC] RC5 challenge and linux

1997-08-29 Thread Tommy Lakofski
On Fri, 29 Aug 1997, Debian mail-lists receiver wrote:

> From: Debian mail-lists receiver <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Date: Fri, 29 Aug 1997 08:36:47 -0400 (EDT)
> Subject: Re: [OFF-TOPIC] RC5 challenge and linux
> 
>   >I'd like to encourage all readers on the list with a reasonably regular
>   >connection to the internet to download and run the rc5v2 client from
>   >http://rc5.distributed.net/ (download the client at
>   >ftp://ftp.distributed.net/pub/rc5/v2.004/rc5v2b4-linux-x86.tar.gz)
> 
> What's RC5?

It's an encryption standard developed by RSA (www.rsa.com). The effort is
partly to persuade the powers that be that 56-bit encryption is inadequate
to secure communications.

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Re: Linux in Wired (fwd)

1997-08-29 Thread Hamish Moffatt
On Fri, Aug 29, 1997 at 06:52:20AM -0600, Chad D. Zimmerman wrote:
> Installed Applix the other night.  I like it just as much as Office95/97
> little slow on my system ... but I will be upgrading it in a couple of
> months.
> 
> As for file importing and exporting ... Applix Words can bring in almost
> everything that word and wordperfect can open/import.  It does not like
> nor will it open fast save documents though .. comes up with an
> incompatable format error.

That is unfortunate, because for the Word user, there's rarely
any need to turn it off, which means the Applix user needs to keep
Word around just to convert it.

How does it handle equations written in MS Equation Editor?
Can it export equations back to equation editor too? That would
be a great feature, but a big ask perhaps; right now I use
Lotus WordPro 97 on WinNT and even it can't export its
equations to Word/Equation Editor, it just exports them as pictures
(which is no good for editing).


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Re: Linux in Wired (fwd)

1997-08-29 Thread Chad D. Zimmerman
On Sat, 30 Aug 1997, Hamish Moffatt wrote:

> On Fri, Aug 29, 1997 at 06:52:20AM -0600, Chad D. Zimmerman wrote:
> > Installed Applix the other night.  I like it just as much as Office95/97
> > little slow on my system ... but I will be upgrading it in a couple of
> > months.
> > 
> > As for file importing and exporting ... Applix Words can bring in almost
> > everything that word and wordperfect can open/import.  It does not like
> > nor will it open fast save documents though .. comes up with an
> > incompatable format error.
> 
> That is unfortunate, because for the Word user, there's rarely
> any need to turn it off, which means the Applix user needs to keep
> Word around just to convert it.

Fast save is not a good way to save anyway ... it just appends data to the
file.  The file inturn is bigger than it needs to be and is fragmented ..
I always do a save as once and a while to clean up the files.  Matter of
preference on saving I guess.
 
> How does it handle equations written in MS Equation Editor?
> Can it export equations back to equation editor too? That would
> be a great feature, but a big ask perhaps; right now I use
> Lotus WordPro 97 on WinNT and even it can't export its
> equations to Word/Equation Editor, it just exports them as pictures
> (which is no good for editing).

Havn't tried that yet ... don't have any here actually.  Send me a file
with some and I'll give it a try and see what blows up here ;)

Chad


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Re: update-menus failed?

1997-08-29 Thread joost witteveen
> I installed the netscape package, with the netscape binary file in
> /tmp, just as the instructions said. The thing installed OK, and was
> configured OK, but at the end of the process I got the following
> message:
> 
> ..
> - Netscape will not be able to read user mail spool files unless you set
>   the "external movemail program" to "/usr/lib/netscape/movemail". Changing
>   the permissions of /var/spool/mail to 1777 (as suggested by Netscape) will
>   introduce a small security hole which, under some circumstances, could
>   allow someone else to get access to another's mail.

OK, this one is fine.

> 
> Update-menus: waiting for dpkg to finish (forking to background)
> Update-menus: (checking /var/lib/dpkg/lock)

This is fine too, it's just the "update-menus" command in the
postinst script. If you don't like seeing this, edit
/etc/menu-methods/menu.config, to say somethign like
verbosity=quiet

> Installation OK.  Hit RETURN.

This is the postinst again.

>  shell-init: could not get current
> directory: get\cwd: cannot access parent directories

This I don't understand. I wrote update-menus, and I've
seen quite a few error messages from update-menus. But
I've never seen this one (nor do I ever expect this).
the place at which it comes makes it actually rather unlikely
that it's from update-menus: update-menus only continues working
_after_ dpkg finished, which is usually after you have your prompt
back. This message seems to have come before any command prompt,
so I suspect it's from the netscape postinst.

I cannot check now, cause I've got a very old netscape package
installed here, and that one doesn't to update-menus at all.

> Is this of any importance? Is there anything I can do to fix this? I
> think I remember a post regarding this issue a while ago, something
> like there is a command spawned by root that runs as a different user,
> and that user doesn't have read access to all the directories in the
> path to a certain file. Is this it?

Possible. Take a look at /var/lib/dpkg/info/netscape.postinst,
and see what it does after it says " Installation OK.  Hit RETURN.".
maybe that gives a clue? 


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Re: [OFF-TOPIC] RC5 challenge and linux

1997-08-29 Thread Greg Vence
Tommy Lakofski wrote:
> 
> On Fri, 29 Aug 1997, Debian mail-lists receiver wrote:
> 
> > From: Debian mail-lists receiver
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: debian-user@lists.debian.org, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Date: Fri, 29 Aug 1997 08:36:47 -0400 (EDT)
> > Subject: Re: [OFF-TOPIC] RC5 challenge and linux
> >
> >   >I'd like to encourage all readers on the list with a
> reasonably regular
> >   >connection to the internet to download and run the rc5v2
> client from
> >   >http://rc5.distributed.net/ (download the client at
> >   >
> ftp://ftp.distributed.net/pub/rc5/v2.004/rc5v2b4-linux-x86.tar.gz)
> >
> > What's RC5?
> 
> It's an encryption standard developed by RSA (www.rsa.com). The effort
> is
> partly to persuade the powers that be that 56-bit encryption is
> inadequate
> to secure communications.
> 
Wasn't there a method to register as a Linux group box or Debian?  How
do I do this if its still available?

Thanx -- Greg.


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Re: [OFF-TOPIC] RC5 challenge and linux

1997-08-29 Thread Marcus Brinkmann
On Thu, Aug 28, 1997 at 08:57:50PM -0400, Tommy Lakofski wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> I'd like to encourage all readers on the list with a reasonably regular
> connection to the internet to download and run the rc5v2 client from
> http://rc5.distributed.net/ (download the client at
> ftp://ftp.distributed.net/pub/rc5/v2.004/rc5v2b4-linux-x86.tar.gz)

What is reasonably?

Marcus

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Re: [OFF-TOPIC] RC5 challenge and linux

1997-08-29 Thread Tommy Lakofski
On Fri, 29 Aug 1997, Marcus Brinkmann wrote:

> What is reasonably?
> 
> Marcus

The client can buffer any number of blocks of keys between network
connections -- thus your machine only has to be on the net when it wants
to get the next set of blocks. If there's no connection when it tries,
it'll keep what it's done so far, generate a random block of keys, do that
and then try again when it's done.

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installing into /usr/local ??

1997-08-29 Thread Peter Biechele

Maybe a stupid question, but how do I install packages into /usr/local if
I want to install the package for more than one computer into a NFS
mounted directory (like /usr/local). 

for example the Ghostscript/Ghostview packages should go into /usr/local,
so I can NFS mount /usr/local on all machines in our network. So  I have
to update only this one package not one on every machine. And I do not
have the space to install the package on each machine.

Is there a special procedure I have to follow for the Debian distrib. ?

Thanks for any advice !

Peter Biechele


Dipl. Phys. Peter Biechele, Uni Freiburg, Fakultaet fuer Physik, Abt. Honerkamp,
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Re: [OFF-TOPIC] RC5 challenge and linux

1997-08-29 Thread Tommy Lakofski
On Fri, 29 Aug 1997, Greg Vence wrote:

> Wasn't there a method to register as a Linux group box or Debian?  How
> do I do this if its still available?
> 
> Thanx -- Greg.


yup -- set your id in the client to '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' (without the
quotes). If the linux effort finishes first $1000 goes to Linux
International (www.li.org).

TL


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joerc and backup paths

1997-08-29 Thread kestrel
I tried to set the backup path for joe in the rc file but everytime I save
it says it 'can't create teh backup file should I save anyway?'
I set the -backpath to /root/.backups is this the right format


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Re: [OFF-TOPIC] RC5 challenge and linux

1997-08-29 Thread Greg Vence
Tommy Lakofski wrote:
> 
> On Fri, 29 Aug 1997, Greg Vence wrote:
> 
> > Wasn't there a method to register as a Linux group box or Debian?
> How
> > do I do this if its still available?
> >
> > Thanx -- Greg.
> 
> yup -- set your id in the client to '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' (without the
> quotes). If the linux effort finishes first $1000 goes to Linux
> International (www.li.org).
> 
Sorry,  I RTFM and it seems that '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' seems to be the
place to go as they are in 2nd place and would give the $$$ to LI.

L8r -- Greg.


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Re: Applixware

1997-08-29 Thread Scott Hanson
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Shaya Potter) writes:

> Chad, figure out how to make a "patch" file for applix and people will
> then be able to use alien with the "patch" file on the applix rpm to get a
> good deb from it.
> 
> Shaya

Since I have the .deb of rpm installed (2.3.8-1), I was able to
install using the install program on the Applix cd. 

(Since everything is installed in /opt/applix, there's no real point
in creating an applix.deb file. If I want to uninstall, rm -rf
will do the trick.)

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Re: [OFF-TOPIC] RC5 challenge and linux

1997-08-29 Thread Tommy Lakofski
On Fri, 29 Aug 1997, Greg Vence wrote:

> 
> > yup -- set your id in the client to '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' (without the
> > quotes). If the linux effort finishes first $1000 goes to Linux
> > International (www.li.org).
> > 
> Sorry,  I RTFM and it seems that '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' seems to be the
> place to go as they are in 2nd place and would give the $$$ to LI.
> 
> L8r -- Greg.

my mistake... i think i had [EMAIL PROTECTED] in my first email. oops.

TL


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Re: Debugging pine sessions

1997-08-29 Thread David Wright
On Thu, 14 Aug 1997, Anthony Fok wrote:

> On Thu, 7 Aug 1997, Santiago Vila Doncel wrote:
> 
> > > I could see your point about -DDEBUG not being appropriate for a
> > > production program if the resultant output was only useful for debugging
> > > Pine. However, the principal use of this information is for debugging
> > > pine /sessions/ (and the default debug level can be set accordingly).
> > 
> > Again, there must be very few people interested on this.
> 
> I disagree.  The debug feature is a standard Pine behaviour.  I was very
> surprised disappointed when I discovered that I couldn't use the debug
> option at all (I was having some problem with Pine and the SMTP server
> (exim), and I would like to check the .pine-debug? files to see what was
> going on.)
> 
> Therefore, I think the -DDEBUG flag should be turned on by default.  If
> some user is annoyed with the .pine-debug? files, they can always use the
> -d 0 option.  At least, let the user make the decision instead of
> eliminating the -d option entirely.

Having got my debian pine 3.96 working correctly, the university has 
upgraded their IMAP server from a beta version to a production version. The 
effect is that my client can no longer read the inbox correctly. I get 
various access errors and bogus times of 0/0/70 0:0:0 +. Without the 
debug files, it's difficult to pinpoint what's going on, and I get no 
help from the server end as pine is not supported. However, their pine 
3.91 client does seem to work, so for the time being I shall give up on 
the debian version, unless someone has already encountered this problem 
and can suggest a fix.
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Re: newbie question,

1997-08-29 Thread Olaf Weber
Jim Pick writes:

>> Does debian use .Xresources or .Xdefaults at all? If not, what is
>> the debian equivalent? ( I tried to put some options for xemacs in
>> .Xdefaults, but nothing happens when I do so..)

> You have to use the xrdb command to load those files in.

To be precise, if you use ~/.Xdefaults, you have to use xrdb, but if
you use ~/.Xresources, they should be included automatically at the
start of your X session.  (See the /etc/X11/Xsession script.)

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Sendmail or Smail ?

1997-08-29 Thread Matthew Tebbens


Can Smail handle mail for all the domains I control or do I have to switch
to Sendmail ?  

Has anyone setup non-ip based virtualhosts ? Please mail me, I'm trying to
get it working now.

Thanks,
Matthew


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Time Tracking Tool ...

1997-08-29 Thread Toens Bueker
Hi *,

somebody - I guess it was Christoph Lameter - recently
announced a tool, which he used to keep track of the time
spend on different projects. The description looked very
interesting, but I lost the message and although I'm
searching through the debian-changes archive at the
moment, I wonder if anybody here can give me a hint.

Thx

Töns 

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how does "mail" know what MTA to use?

1997-08-29 Thread Pat Masterson
Does the mail command have the MTA name hardwired into it? Or are there 
ways of telling it to use sendmail or smail, etc?
 Also, whats the simple explanatio of how to istall a package 
(something.deb) into a running system? I want to put on sendmail. Thanks.

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Re: Problem with Xemacs 20.2

1997-08-29 Thread Eythan Weg
AUBORD Alain <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> I just installed new version of XEmacs under debian and I get almost
> immediately a crash which let my screen with only garbage.
> 
> A short analysis with gdb give me the following diagnostic:
> 
> "GDB is free software and you are welcome to distribute copies of it
>  under certain conditions; type "show copying" to see the conditions.
> There is absolutely no warranty for GDB; type "show warranty" for details.
> GDB 4.16 (i486-debian-linux), Copyright 1996 Free Software Foundation, Inc...
> Core was generated by `xemacs'.
> Program terminated with signal 6, IOT trap/Abort.
> find_solib: Can't read pathname for load map: I/O error
> 
> #0  0x40233ea1 in ?? () from /lib/libc.so.6"

I have the same problem.

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Re: Linux in Wired

1997-08-29 Thread stick
> 
> IMO, microsoft should get out of the operating system game and leave it
> to those who actually have a clue about OSeslike linux or bsd kernel
> hackers and unix programmers for example.
> 
IMNSHO, MS should write a libwin95.so and a win95wm for Linux.  That way
we'd have the application support and the users who want the 95 look-and-
feel could have that as well.

> MS should focus on their applications which, for the most part, aren't
> too bad. in fact, some of their apps are fairly decent if you like that
> sort of thing.
> 
If you say so.  I think their apps are just a tad bloated.

> this is the kind of thing that linux needs - apps, apps, and more apps.
> 
Absolutely.  Linux also needs marketing, marketing, and more marketing.
I can only think of one business need that Linux based systems don't
support - OCR.  Everything else is available.

> 
> craig
> 
> 
> --
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> temporary autonomous zone  system administration tasks.
> 
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smc 9332 and debian.

1997-08-29 Thread dpk
I haven't been able to find any documentation on the SMC 9332 network
card being supported for linux.  I tried using the SMC 9000 series module
from the boot disks with no luck, so I am assuming it is not supported by
that driver, seeing that I have had a fair amount of experience and
success with linux/networking.   

Does anyone know if there is an alpha/beta driver for this card.  10 mb or
100mb either way is fine, we aren't picky at this point.  I'm hoping I can
prove to my working cohorts that we will get far better support and
success with Debian Linux over other i386 unix variants... So any help is
appreciated.  

Thanks,
Dennis

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Re: Linux in Wired

1997-08-29 Thread David B. Teague

Hi Craig, and all list readers:

On Thu, 28 Aug 1997, Craig Sanders wrote, in part:
[...]
> 
> MS is inescapable.  Programs like WINE and WABI and Willow's
> TWIN are useful and necessary because linux needs more apps (preferably
> freeware, but commercial is fine too).  The Win emulators allow (or will

I know about Win emulators: (the commercial) WABI, and about the
free package in the making, WINE. 

Please tell me about Willow's TWIN.  I heard about 'Willow' a year or
two ago, but then it dissappeared.

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Re: Devices?

1997-08-29 Thread Manoj Srivastava
Hi,
>>"Debian" == Debian mail-lists receiver <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

Debian> (you'll need to install the kernel-header and kernel-source
Debian> deb packages first).

Umm, one would never need install both these packages, since
 kernel-source is a superset of the kernel-headers package. I mean, if
 you have kenel-source, you already have kernle-headers.

Also, you can just get the pristine upstream sources (you do
 loose any bug fixes to the kernel put in by the debian maintainer),
 and get the kernel-package package to help with the compilation.

I personally prefer the kernel-source package (at the same
 version number) to the upstream sources since that means that someone
 has already ironed out problens that I may face otherwise.

manoj
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Install disk

1997-08-29 Thread Anders Hanson
Can anyone make a install disk image with a kernel that is
configured _WITHOUT_ DMA support and _WITHOUT_ PCI bios support?

My box hangs when i try ty boot with the standard install disk :(
I have the official debian 1.3.1 CD.

Please help me

please attach the image in an email and send it to me :)


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2 CPU servers

1997-08-29 Thread Jesse Goldman
Hi,

Our group is considering ordering some Debian servers running kernel
2.0.30 either with 2 Pentium Pro CPUs or 2 Pentium II CPUs. I've read
somewhere, however, that, in the dual CPU configuration, lock-ups are
occasionally experienced which may cut down on productivity. Does anyone
have a Debian box with 2 processors and, if so, are you pretty happy with
it? Also, does anyone know whether tape stackers are supported by the
scsi driver included in the current kernels? Thanks...

J. Goldman


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pci device table

1997-08-29 Thread Alfonso E. Urdaneta
How do I clear the PCI device table on a Asus TX97 motherboard. Or, have
it time out or be bypassed upon installation of Linux ?

I accidentally put a IDE controller card onto my motherboard and now the
thing locks up because it is looking for that device.

Alfonso.

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Re: [OFF-TOPIC] RC5 challenge and linux

1997-08-29 Thread Carl Johnson
Tommy Lakofski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> 
> On Fri, 29 Aug 1997, Marcus Brinkmann wrote:
> 
> > What is reasonably?
> > 
> > Marcus
> 
> The client can buffer any number of blocks of keys between network
> connections -- thus your machine only has to be on the net when it wants
> to get the next set of blocks. If there's no connection when it tries,
> it'll keep what it's done so far, generate a random block of keys, do that
> and then try again when it's done.
> TL

It will buffer up to 50 blocks, but I have mine set to buffer 13
blocks, which is enough for about 6 hours on my P133.  I have a cron
script call in every 3 hours to force updates on the buffers at the
same time as I download my news and mail.

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Re: Linux in Wired

1997-08-29 Thread robert havoc pennington
On Fri, 29 Aug 1997 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Absolutely.  Linux also needs marketing, marketing, and more marketing.
> I can only think of one business need that Linux based systems don't
> support - OCR.  Everything else is available.
> 

Desktop publishing. A Quark XPress clone is not going to be an easy
program to write, either. Granted, only some businesses need it.

And of course the big need: ease of use.

Havoc Pennington



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smc9332, correction:9432

1997-08-29 Thread dpk
Sorry for this error, it was a 9432. 
Dennis

> I haven't been able to find any documentation on the SMC 9332 network
> card being supported for linux.  I tried using the SMC 9000 series module
> from the boot disks with no luck, so I am assuming it is not supported by
> that driver, seeing that I have had a fair amount of experience and
> success with linux/networking.   
> 
> Does anyone know if there is an alpha/beta driver for this card.  10 mb or
> 100mb either way is fine, we aren't picky at this point.  I'm hoping I can
> prove to my working cohorts that we will get far better support and
> success with Debian Linux over other i386 unix variants... So any help is
> appreciated.  
> 
> Thanks,
> Dennis
> 
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> 
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Re: 2 CPU servers

1997-08-29 Thread Philippe Troin

On Fri, 29 Aug 1997 13:06:51 CDT Jesse Goldman ([EMAIL PROTECTED]
ov) wrote:

> Our group is considering ordering some Debian servers running kernel
> 2.0.30 either with 2 Pentium Pro CPUs or 2 Pentium II CPUs. I've read
> somewhere, however, that, in the dual CPU configuration, lock-ups are
> occasionally experienced which may cut down on productivity. Does anyone
> have a Debian box with 2 processors and, if so, are you pretty happy with
> it? 

2.0.31-pre7 seems to be working ok (no deadlocks).
2.0.30 or 2.0.29 with the deadlock-patch 6 works fine too.

> Also, does anyone know whether tape stackers are supported by the
> scsi driver included in the current kernels? Thanks...

I've seen some tape loaders change tape when sent mt offline, which 
make them usable under linux. You might want to check first though.

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Re: how does "mail" know what MTA to use?

1997-08-29 Thread Robert Stone
On Fri, 29 Aug 1997, Pat Masterson wrote:

: Date: Fri, 29 Aug 1997 12:49:12 -0400 (EDT)
: Subject: how does "mail" know what MTA to use?
: 
: Does the mail command have the MTA name hardwired into it? Or are there 
: ways of telling it to use sendmail or smail, etc?
:  Also, whats the simple explanatio of how to istall a package 
: (something.deb) into a running system? I want to put on sendmail. Thanks.
: 
I believe that mail (at least the one from the mailx package) execs
/usr/bin/sendmail.  On smail based systems, /usr/bin/sendmail is a symlink
to smail, I assume the same would be true of other MTAs (qmail?).

to install sendmail you'll have to deinstall smail first.  Because so many
programs depend on an MTA, you'll need some extra command line options.
"dpkg --force-depends -r smail" should work, then a 
"dpkg -i sendmail_###.deb" to install your debian sendmail package.

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Xemacs wont run under SU, is it normal?

1997-08-29 Thread lc29b50
After I execute the su command to switch to root, when I run Xemacs, it 
gives me an error message(something related to xlib6) and won't run. Is
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Re: [OFF-TOPIC] RC5 challenge and linux

1997-08-29 Thread Ferenc Kiraly

Hi!

This is just to encourage more Linux users to join the effort:

I have just set up 4 machines to help crack the RC5 challenge, three
of which are permanently on the Internet and one is occasionally
connected via a PPP link. Lets beat those rotten apples.

feri.







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Re: Linux in Wired

1997-08-29 Thread john
Chuck writes:
> I can only think of one business need that Linux based systems don't
> support - OCR.  Everything else is available.

General ledger accounting?
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Debian on Sparc

1997-08-29 Thread Mike Chovan
Hi,

Does anyone have any info on the Debian port to the Sparc processor??

I've just inherited an old Sparc 1+, and I'd really like to install Debian on 
it.
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Wierd Printing problem

1997-08-29 Thread Kevin J Poorman
Hi,

I asked a question while back about printing from staroffice with my
archaic 9pin epson lx80.

I was told to install apsfilter. so I did ... then I tryed printing a ps
file from the command line like this 

lpr hum.ps

at that point I recived page after page of this error message printed on
my printer...

While reading gs_fonts.ps:
Error: /undefinedfilename in (fontmap)
Operand stack:

Execution stack:
   %interp_exit--nostringval-- --nostringval-- --nostringval-- false
--nostringval-- --nostringval-- --nostringval--
Dictionary stack:
   --dict:429/631--  --dict:34/200-- --dict:429/631--
Last OS error: 2
Current file postion is 2350.

I also get this error when I try to pull up a ps file in gv ...

Any help is appreicated...
TIA

-Kevin, kc5vxy
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Re: Linux in Wired

1997-08-29 Thread stick
> 
> Chuck writes:
> > I can only think of one business need that Linux based systems don't
> > support - OCR.  Everything else is available.
> 
> General ledger accounting?

We got that!  Recently, Appgen ported their database to Linux (Caldera).
They have written a complete finance application using that environment.
GL, AP, AR, PAYROLL, JOB COSTING, ORDER ENTRY and more!  It's a very
slick application/development environment!!  

FTR, I'm *NOT* an impartial observer - I'm a Licensed AppGen VAR.  If anyone
wants more information, let me know.  Also FTR, it is not freely distributable,
and only available through VAR's.  It did recently get good reviews in SCO
World.

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Re: Debian on Sparc

1997-08-29 Thread Martin Schulze
Mike Chovan writes:

> Does anyone have any info on the Debian port to the Sparc processor??
> 
> I've just inherited an old Sparc 1+, and I'd really like to install Debian on 
> it.

Join #Debian on irc.debian.org _now_ There are at least two  sparc
ppl around.

Regards

Joey

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Re: Debian on Sparc

1997-08-29 Thread Bruce Perens
Send "subscribe" to debian-sparc@lists.debian.org . They have it running.

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Re: joerc and backup paths

1997-08-29 Thread Dale Scheetz
On Fri, 29 Aug 1997 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> I tried to set the backup path for joe in the rc file but everytime I save
> it says it 'can't create teh backup file should I save anyway?'
> I set the -backpath to /root/.backups is this the right format
> 
If you are using joe from root this should work, but for regular users the
permissions are probably wrong. You can either fix the permissions on the
current path, or choose something like ~/.backups.

Luck,

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Re: Sendmail or Smail ?

1997-08-29 Thread Ralph Winslow
Matthew Tebbens wrote:
> 
> Can Smail handle mail for all the domains I control or do I have to switch
> to Sendmail ?

smail = sendmail = rmail

They're all simply links to a common executable that change the default
behavior thereof.
> 
> Has anyone setup non-ip based virtualhosts ? Please mail me, I'm trying to
> get it working now.
> 
> Thanks,
> Matthew
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Printing html Debian documentation?

1997-08-29 Thread Douglas Bates
I would welcome suggestions for printing fairly large collections of
html files.  My immediate application is to try to make some
reasonably attractive printed copies of the contents of
/usr/doc/dpkg/packaging.html/ so I can read the collection
conveniently some evening.  (No, I don't regard borrowing my wife's
laptop, transferring all the .html files over, and sitting in bed
reading by the glow of the screen as "convenient".)

I can always open each page in Netscape or some other browser then
click on print, etc. but I find the printed copies from Netscape are
not very attractive (fonts too large, line length too long, etc.) and
besides, that is a lot of pointing-and-clicking.

Is there any program, say "html2ps", that I could configure once to my
liking then simply go into the directory and type
 html2ps *.html | lpr

Alternatively, am I completely missing the boat and trying to retrofit
a printed copy from the html version of the documentation when there
is another, more easily printed, version.


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Re: Printing html Debian documentation?

1997-08-29 Thread Will Lowe
On Fri, 29 Aug 1997, Douglas Bates wrote:

> I would welcome suggestions for printing fairly large collections of
> html files.  My immediate application is to try to make some

Try html2latex.  I've never used it,  but if it works half as well as
latex2html,  it's great.  There is a debian package of it.

>  html2ps *.html | lpr

This would probably become

html2latex *.html
latex *.tex
dvips *.dvi

Will

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[Text Processing] Making Banners, etc.

1997-08-29 Thread Will Lowe
I work in a job that requires me to frequently make lots of informative,
mostly-text posters.  They are fine on 81/2-11" paper,  and usually are
just text something like

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|  *READ ME* |
||
|   Floor Meeting Wednesday Night|
|   8 PM,  in the Lounge |
||
--

Is there any usefull linux/debian software for such simple,  big-text
applications?  Latex isn't really meant to be used (directly) for such an
application,  and using something like Gimp for text processing seems like
overkill.  

Will

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Re: [Text Processing] Making Banners, etc.

1997-08-29 Thread Oleg Krivosheev

Hi,


On Fri, 29 Aug 1997, Will Lowe wrote:

> I work in a job that requires me to frequently make lots of informative,
> mostly-text posters.  They are fine on 81/2-11" paper,  and usually are
> just text something like
> 
>   --
>   |  *READ ME* |
>   ||
>   |   Floor Meeting Wednesday Night|
>   |   8 PM,  in the Lounge |
>   ||
>   --
> 
> Is there any usefull linux/debian software for such simple,  big-text
> applications?  Latex isn't really meant to be used (directly) for such an
> application,  and using something like Gimp for text processing seems like
> overkill.  
> 

hmm...

latex2e, slides class.

ask in private e-mail for example file.


OK



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XDM

1997-08-29 Thread Matthew Tebbens

Where can I specify that XDM start with the server option '-bpp 16' ??

Thanks,
Matthew
 


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Re: XDM

1997-08-29 Thread Joey Hess
Matthew Tebbens wrote:
> Where can I specify that XDM start with the server option '-bpp 16' ??

Edit /etc/X11/xdm/Xservers:

:0 local /usr/X11R6/bin/X -bpp 16

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CDROM problem part II

1997-08-29 Thread Carl Flippin
What boot parameters should I set to prevent autoprobe and set 
everything manually? I'm trying to install from scratch if that makes 
a drifference.


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