Re: New Install 1.3.1: /etc/init.d/xdm empty

1997-07-20 Thread W Paul Mills
On Fri, 18 Jul 1997, Pedro I. Sanchez wrote:

> Hello,
> 
> I installed Debian 1.3.1 on a new machine and I found two problems:
> 
> 1. After installing xbase and the SVGA server, the file
> /etc/X11/xdm/Xserver refers to /usr/X11/X11R6/bin/X (or something like
> this, I don't recall well). The right name should be /usr/bin/X11/X.

Xserver should refer to /usr/X11R6/bin/X
/usr/bin/X11 should be a link to ../X11R6/bin/

> 2. /etc/init.d/xdm is empty so my PC doesn't boot into X automatically.
> If I execute xdm manually everything is ok.
> 
> Are these well known bugs in xfree 3.3-3?
> 
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Re: libc5_5.4.33-5_i386.deb

1997-07-20 Thread W Paul Mills
On Fri, 18 Jul 1997, Paul Miller wrote:

> I'm having trouble upgrading to -5 from -3 ... here is my output:
> 
> # ldconfig
> # dpkg -i libc5_5.4.33-5_i386.deb
> (Reading database ... 13971 files and directories currently installed)
> Preparing to replace libc5 5.4.33-3 (using lib5_5.4.33-5_i386.deb)
> Unpacking replacement libc5 ...
> Setting up libc5 (5.4.33-5) ...
> dpkg: error processing libc5 (--install)
>  subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 1
> Errors were encountered while processing:
>  libc5
> #
> 
> can anyone help?  I'm trying to install the hamm version..

Not sure, but I had problems when upgrading 1.2 to 1.3 and 1.3.1.

It was messing up links. I had to figure out what it was having
problems with and manually delete and install the proper links.
The post-install script was then happy.

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Re: XTerm on XFree86 3.3-3 trouble

1997-07-20 Thread H Huang
On Sun, 20 Jul 1997, Riku Saikkonen wrote:

> (I'm Cc:ing this to debian-devel in an effort to get it fixed. :))
> 
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote to debian-user:
> >When I start mc in a xterm I have trouble with the F-Keys:
> >
> >F1 gives P
> >F2 gives Q 
> >F3 gives R
> >F4 gives S
> >
> >F5 - F10 work just fine.
> 
> This is an old bug in the terminfo entry for xterm. It and related other
> bugs have been reported as bugs #2158, #2291, #3162, and #3973 in the Debian
> bug report archive (http://www.debian.org/Bugs/>).
> 
> The current situation (xbase 3.3-3, ncurses-base 1.9.9e-1) is as follows:
>  - in a "cat" in an xterm, F1 to F4 give ^[OP, ^[OQ, ^[OR, and ^[OS,
>respectively
>  - "infocmp xterm" says, among other things:
> kf1=\E[11~, kf2=\E[12~, kf3=\E[13~, kf4=\E[14~
> One of them is clearly wrong. But which one?
> 
> A strange thing is that bug report #3162 (against xbase 3.1.2-9) reports the
> bug being the other way around -- infocmp xterm shows kf1=\EOP, but cat
> gives ^[[11~. It appears that there has been some circular fixing going on.
> 
> So, Debian developers: Can we decide which one is "correct", xterm or the
> terminfo entry, and adjust the other accordingly?
> 
> For Debian users, the easiest thing to do is wait for the bug to get fixed.
> :) As a sort of temporary workaround, you can try setting "TERM=vt220"; that
> should fix the function keys, but may cause other similar keyboard or
> display problems.
> 

Installing ncurses-base, ncurses-term (1.9.9g-2) from master's Incoming
should fix this problem.


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Re: Using "suck" to transfer news....

1997-07-20 Thread W Paul Mills
On 19 Jul 1997, Stig Sandbeck Mathisen wrote:

> 
> I am currently setting up suck, and thought that batchmode would suit
> perfectly, but that requires something called "innxmit".  Does anyone
> know if there's a debian package containing this somewhere?

It is part of the inn package.
I believe you will find some info in /usr/doc that will help you 
get it all set up and working together.

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Re: Installing 2.1.x kernels on Debian (DOS filesystems)

1997-07-20 Thread Shaya Potter
On Sat, 19 Jul 1997, Peter S Galbraith wrote:

> 
> Perhaps someone here works with 2.1.x kernels and can tell me what I'm
> missing...  I needed to install 2.1.45 to get some hardware working.  
> My newly compiled 2.1.45 can't handle DOS filesystems correctly:
> 

This is just a guess, but their have been major changes in the way the
kernel handles the filesystems, the DOS file system may not have been
totally ported over.  I know when I compiled the modules, the modules
didn't want to load.  Both the FAT and MSODOS ones.

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Re: BIND 8.1.x ?

1997-07-20 Thread Shaya Potter
On Sat, 19 Jul 1997, Zachary DeAquila wrote:

> 
> any word on when/if we'll have a bind 8.1.x package?  It's 
> got some bugfixes and things over 4.9.x that make the
> upgrade well worthwhile... I mailed the maintainer of
> the bind package a few days ago but have no response yet.
> 

I believe I just saw an upload of it to Incoming on master.

Shaya


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Any chroot experts

1997-07-20 Thread Brandon Mitchell
I think I have quite a challenge for the experts.

I recently attended an internet security talk, and one thing that caught
my attention is placing an offender in a virtual playpin or jail cell,
where they could do all the damage they wanted without hurting the actual
setup.  I figured this was done using a chroot environment.  So far, I've
been able to chroot to /mnt/playpin as root, and run most commands without
any problem (I have a second debian installation on another harddisk).
However I'd like to make this more transparent to the user (i.e. they
don't know they aren't on the actual setup) and it's secure (you have to
be root to chroot, and these could be professional crackers here).  I was
wondering if anyone is familiar with doing this, or if you know of any
documentation.

How I want it to be done:
1) on a per user basis, I don't want regular users to be affected
2) all services changed, rlogin, ssh, telnet, ftp...
3) completly transparent, offender doesn't know they have been moved
  (I can handle a copied filesystem, however, some programs didn't work
when I tried it out, i.e.:
hobbes# login
Unable to determine your tty name.
they shouldn't see problems like this.)

It might be easier if I had a spare computer, however, I'm worried that
some resourses won't match (i.e. uptime).

Oh, and to make it a little harder, it would be nice if w, finger, last,
etc. showed the users on the actual setup and the playpin.

Thanks for any tips,
Brandon

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Re: Any chroot experts

1997-07-20 Thread Philippe Troin

On Sat, 19 Jul 1997 12:02:51 EDT Brandon Mitchell ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
 wrote:

> I recently attended an internet security talk, and one thing that caught
> my attention is placing an offender in a virtual playpin or jail cell,
> where they could do all the damage they wanted without hurting the actual
> setup.  I figured this was done using a chroot environment.  

Beware of this. It's only 99% safe.
The remaining 1%: the sockets and devices remain global.
Ie as root in the playpin:
mknod /dev/hda b  
cat /dev/zero > dev/hda
will wipe your hard disk...

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qmail? (was:Re: sendmail vs smail)

1997-07-20 Thread Antti-Juhani Kaijanaho
A related question: is there any chance of getting a Debianized
distribution of qmail in the near future? A mere source could do. Yes,
I know that there is qmail in project/experimental (at least my mirror
has it), but I'd rather not use alpha software -- and I think I would
be violating Dan's copyright if I were to use the experimental
package, wouldn't I?


Antti-Juhani


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Very weird X experience...

1997-07-20 Thread d1temp
Hi all,

just had/am having a very weird experience in X;
it just spawned a new server at VT8... while the old one at VT hanged
If I switch to VT7 from the xdm login screen I see the top of my desktop
and the rest is a static picture of xdm login screen (I run xlock
-nolock -mode star in the login screen...)

When swiching to VT7 while logged in on VT8 I get a static picture
(no mouse, no keyboard except VT switching and presumably threefinger
salute) of the current desktop from VT8 with short green vertical lines
at the top...

Hmmm, just saw that _all_the VT's (F1-F7) do the same thing...

Debian 1.2.4 (apprx), XFree3.2, Mach64 card, fvwm2.0.45

This happened while I was surfing to http://CNN.passagen.se
using Netscape 3.01...

Anyone with any clues or hints to what this might be about?

Will do another test wit hnetscape and that site as soon as I get
ths mail on the way...

/Michael - highly surprised...
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Re: Using "suck" to transfer news....

1997-07-20 Thread Jason Costomiris
On 19 Jul 1997, Stig Sandbeck Mathisen wrote:

> I am currently setting up suck, and thought that batchmode would suit
> perfectly, but that requires something called "innxmit".  Does anyone
> know if there's a debian package containing this somewhere?

innxmit is a part of the inn package.  However, it is almost *never*
directly invoked.  It usually gets called by nntpsend, after it parses the
nntpsend.ctl file.

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XFree86 3.3 problems

1997-07-20 Thread Ralph Winslow
Having switched to 3.3 when it became available on stable, I at first
was disabled by xdm coming up, crashing, and respawning in an endless
loop. I've reapired that with my resq disk (by removing
/etc/rc3.d/S20xdm) and by editing /etc/X11/XF86Config am now able to run
X using startx at 640x480. I'd been running at 800x600, however, and X
as it now stands is very near useless (this mail is being sent using
Netscape/W$95). BTW, it was the 'Option  "linear"' line that finally
made X 'work'.  Can anyone provide me a clue to get my Trident
tgui9440agi back in business @800x600? I know I could adjust .x* files
to make things usable at 640x480, but it's not a solution that I relish.
TIA


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Is there not a debian package of gimp?

1997-07-20 Thread Stan Brown
I looked in the stable source and binary locations for a package of
gimp (Graphic Image Manipulator). This package is under the GPL, so I
would expect it to be there.

Am I overloooking something?

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Can anyone recomend a Debian package finder web page?

1997-07-20 Thread Stan Brown
The one I was using has gone awaya. Any recomendations?

Thanks.

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Re: [man pages, groff] How to set a wrap point?

1997-07-20 Thread Riku Saikkonen
>  When groff formats a man page file like 'bash.1',
>  the formatted main text will be centered.
>
>  Do you know how to change this so I can wrap the text
>  at a certain column (e.g. at column 75).
...
>  But when printing it on paper I'd rather save paper
>  and not hold a heavy stack of paper!

I don't know about wrapping the text, but there is a better way to print
manual pages (getting an appearance similar to xman's display): Use "man -t
bash >bash.ps" to get a PostScript version of the man page, and print that
(using GhostScript or magicfilter if you don't have a PostScript printer).
You can also process the PostScript file using psnup or pstops (in the
psutils package) to get multiple pages on one sheet of paper.

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Re: Is there not a debian package of gimp?

1997-07-20 Thread Ben Gertzfield
> "Stan" == Stan Brown <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

Stan>   I looked in the stable source and binary locations for
Stan> a package of gimp (Graphic Image Manipulator). This package
Stan> is under the GPL, so I would expect it to be there.

I'm the new maintainer of The GIMP. There is currently a set of
packages for GIMP 0.54 (gimp-smotif et al)..

I've made packages of 0.99.10, but there are problems with the patent
of the LZW compression, so I have to figure out how to separate things
properly.

If you'd like an interim version (with gif and tiff support, so you'll
be breaking the law, you naughty boy) you can check out
http://zarf-mouse.aca.imsa.edu/~che/debian/gimp/ for lots of fun toys.

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Reading news offline (Was: Using "suck" to transfer news....)

1997-07-20 Thread Stig Sandbeck Mathisen
> "JC" == Jason Costomiris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

JC> innxmit is a part of the inn package.  However, it is almost
JC> *never* directly invoked.  It usually gets called by nntpsend,
JC> after it parses the nntpsend.ctl file.

Ok, I just follow the suck man page, but I must admit I haven't gotten
it to work yet.  Suck transfers some articles from the server, and
makes a batchfile for innxmit, but innxmit wants to read from
/var/spool/news/out.going, which seems to be for articles headed the
other way. (I have to work on that too, but first read, then post :)

Does anyone else use suck+inn to get news offline, in that case I
would be happy if anyone could drop me a hint on how.  (If anyone uses
something else to do that, I would be happy to hear about that as
well... :)

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Re: Is there not a debian package of gimp?

1997-07-20 Thread Jason Costomiris
On 20 Jul 1997, Ben Gertzfield wrote:

> I've made packages of 0.99.10, but there are problems with the patent
> of the LZW compression, so I have to figure out how to separate things
> properly.
> 
> If you'd like an interim version (with gif and tiff support, so you'll
> be breaking the law, you naughty boy) you can check out
> http://zarf-mouse.aca.imsa.edu/~che/debian/gimp/ for lots of fun toys.

Uh, no need to split things up at all.  According to the Unisys LZW FAQ,
you just need to contact them.  If your software is free, so is LZW.

http://www.unisys.com/LeadStory/lzwfaq.html

You do, however, need their permission to redistribute, even though it is
not being charged for.

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Re: Reading news offline (Was: Using "suck" to transfer news....)

1997-07-20 Thread Jason Costomiris
On 20 Jul 1997, Stig Sandbeck Mathisen wrote:

> Ok, I just follow the suck man page, but I must admit I haven't gotten
> it to work yet.  Suck transfers some articles from the server, and
> makes a batchfile for innxmit, but innxmit wants to read from
> /var/spool/news/out.going, which seems to be for articles headed the
> other way. (I have to work on that too, but first read, then post :)

the out.going directory *IS* for articles *leaving* your server.  That is
what you want, right? :)

If you want innxmit to look at another dir, I suggest you consult the
innxmit man page.  In the second paragraph of the description, it's in
there

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Re: Is there not a debian package of gimp?

1997-07-20 Thread Ben Gertzfield
> "Jason" == Jason Costomiris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

Jason> Uh, no need to split things up at all.  According to the
Jason> Unisys LZW FAQ, you just need to contact them.  If your
Jason> software is free, so is LZW.

Ah, yes, but the policy is still restrictive, so either all of GIMP
goes into non-free, or I have to split off the bits with a restrictive
licence into non-free, even with permission from UNISYS.

Only truly freely available software can go into the main
distribution.

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Re: qmail? (was:Re: sendmail vs smail)

1997-07-20 Thread Dima
>>Antti-Juhani Kaijanaho wrote:

 >A related question: is there any chance of getting a Debianized
 >distribution of qmail in the near future? A mere source could do.

You can use a non-debianized version: the only difference is that
Debian already have qmail users and groups in /etc/passwd & /etc/group
so you'll need to skip most of INSTALL.ids part of qmail setup.  
And you'll need to write a startup script.

 >I know that there is qmail in project/experimental (at least my mirror
 >has it), but I'd rather not use alpha software -- and I think I would
 >be violating Dan's copyright if I were to use the experimental
 >package, wouldn't I?

I don't know about the copyright, or why using debianized qmail-1.0
in experimental would be different from using non-debianized qmail-1.0
wrt copy rites.  I'm using it, and I've been using non-debianized qmail 
before Christian packaged it, and they haven't arrested me (yet).  :)

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netscape-beta Package

1997-07-20 Thread Jason Ish
I'm just curious what happened to the netscape-beta package.  I can't seem to 
find it tho it is listed in the search at www.debian.org.

Thanks
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Re: netscape-beta Package

1997-07-20 Thread Shaya Potter
On Sun, 20 Jul 1997, Jason Ish wrote:

> I'm just curious what happened to the netscape-beta package.  I can't seem to 
> find it tho it is listed in the search at www.debian.org.
> 

Brian White is reworking it since it didn't work with most recent betas.

Shaya


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Re: libc5_5.4.33-5_i386.deb

1997-07-20 Thread Johnie Ingram

Edit /var/lib/dpkg/info/libc5.postinst to remove the "set -e" at the
top, then run dpkg --configure libc5.

"Paul" == Paul Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

Paul> I'm having trouble upgrading to -5 from -3 ... here is my
Paul> output: # ldconfig # dpkg -i libc5_5.4.33-5_i386.deb (Reading
Paul> database ... 13971 files and directories currently installed)
Paul> Preparing to replace libc5 5.4.33-3 (using
Paul> lib5_5.4.33-5_i386.deb) Unpacking replacement libc5 ...  Setting
Paul> up libc5 (5.4.33-5) ...  dpkg: error processing libc5
Paul> (--install) subprocess post-installation script returned error
Paul> exit status 1 Errors were encountered while processing: libc5 #
Paul> 
Paul> can anyone help?  I'm trying to install the hamm version..
 
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2GB filesize limit in tar or linux?

1997-07-20 Thread Steve Hsieh

Does anyone know if tar is limited to generating tar files that are 2GB or
smaller?  Or is this due to some other limitation of linux?  



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Netscape and ical printing problems with gs-aladdin

1997-07-20 Thread Johann Spies

Hallo,

After I installed gs-aladdin, the lpr-command wil not work from netscape
or ical.  Printing of ps-files produced by dvips have no problems.

My printer just print something about an "Unrecoverable error: invalidexit
in .stop  Operand stack: tru Times Roman 12" ...

If I print to a .ps file and try to print then, the same happens.

What can I do about it?

Johann.


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SB Sound driver full duplex?

1997-07-20 Thread Rick Jones
Does anybody know if the current SB Sound driver is full duplex or not?

I'm trying to get speak freely working and I get audio device errors when
I try to use speaker and mike at the same time.

L8R,

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lprng and Get_local_host: hostname 'xxxx' bad

1997-07-20 Thread Richard Morin
Hi folks, I'm receiving the following error when I try to do anything with
lprng.  I did have a working printer setup for awhile, but in one of the
upgrades (I track unstable) something has gone amiss.

 Get_local_host: hostname 'joanrich' bad

I did a search of dejanews, and came up with folks who ran slackware
having the same trouble.  So far, all suggestions I came across at
dejanews have not solved my problem.  

So...I decided to abandon lprng, (since I'm actually now trying to
configure my linux box to print via smbclient to a win 95 machine on my
192.168.xxx.xxx network) My problem is that dpkg won't/can't remove lprng
and install plain old lpr.  As demonstrated below

joanrich# dpkg -i lpr_5.9-17.deb 
dpkg: considering removing lprng in favour of lpr ...
dpkg: yes, will remove lprng in favour of lpr.
(Reading database ... 23670 files and directories currently installed.)
Unpacking lpr (from lpr_5.9-17.deb) ...
Stopping printer spooler: lpddpkg: error processing lpr_5.9-17.deb
(--install):
 subprocess pre-removal script returned error exit status 1
Starting printer spooler: lpd1997-07-20-16:23:35 lpd Get_local_host:
hostname 'joanrich' bad
.
Errors were encountered while processing:
 lpr_5.9-17.deb


I'd prefer to stay with lprng, but I'm really stumped by
this Get_local_host: hostname '' bad stuff...
I don't have bind installed..
I've tried different things in my /etc/hosts file...but am quite sure its
ok.  Everything else works.
my /etc/hosts.conf is order hosts,bind and multi on

Any pointers?  I apologize if this is a common documented prob..;-)
TIA

Rich M
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Odd error message from Cron

1997-07-20 Thread Graham Hughes
I'm getting this quite a bit, and it's puzzling me.  I'm not entirely
sure *why* it seems to be whining at me.  Any suggestions?

-- Forwarded message --
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Cron Daemon)
 Subject: Cron <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> run-parts /etc/cron.daily
Date: 20 Jul 1997 13:42:06 -
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

+ DAYS=35
+ '[' -f /etc/apache/httpd.conf ']'
+ umask 022
++ egrep -h '^[:space:]*[A-Za-z]*Log /' /etc/apache/access.conf 
/etc/apache/httpd.conf /etc/apache/srm.conf
++ sed 's/^ *//g'
++ cut -f 2 -d ' '
+ LOGS=/var/log/apache/error.log
/var/log/apache/access.log
+ '[' '/var/log/apache/error.log
/var/log/apache/access.log' = '' ']'
++ egrep -h '^[:space:]*ServerRoot ' /etc/apache/httpd.conf
++ cut -f 2 -d ' '
+ SERVERROOT=/etc/apache
+ '[' /etc/apache '!=' '' ']'
+ cd /etc/apache
++ egrep -h '^User [a-z]' httpd.conf
++ cut -f 2 -d ' '
+ USR=nobody
+ '[' nobody = '' ']'
++ egrep -h '^Group [a-z]' httpd.conf
++ cut -f 2 -d ' '
+ GRP=
+ '[' '' = '' ']'
+ GRP=www-data
+ '[' -f /var/log/apache/error.log ']'
+ savelog -c 35 -m 664 -u nobody -g www-data /var/log/apache/error.log
+ '[' -f /var/log/apache/access.log ']'
+ savelog -c 35 -m 664 -u nobody -g www-data /var/log/apache/access.log
+ trap '' 1
+ killall -HUP /usr/sbin/apache
+ exit 0
shell-init: could not get current directory: getcwd: cannot access parent 
directories



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Re: Reading news offline (Was: Using "suck" to transfer news....)

1997-07-20 Thread Randy Edwards
On 20 Jul 1997, Stig Sandbeck Mathisen wrote:

> Does anyone else use suck+inn to get news offline, in that case I
> would be happy if anyone could drop me a hint on how.

   I'm using suck and inn and things are working pretty well from what I've
seen.  I just use the /usr/bin/get-news command as root to fetch and post my
news.

   As an aside: does anyone know if suck's suckkillfile will use multiple
words in its fields?  In other words, can I have the suckkillfile use
something like:

SUBJECT=XXX,sex site,free porn

or something similar?

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Re: SB Sound driver full duplex?

1997-07-20 Thread Joey Hess
Rick Jones wrote:
> Does anybody know if the current SB Sound driver is full duplex or not?

Half duplex as far as I know (for most cards anyway)
 
> I'm trying to get speak freely working and I get audio device errors when
> I try to use speaker and mike at the same time.

Try speak freely version 6.1b-3 from hamm - it fixes a bug related to this. 

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