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Bug#753610: kde-workspace-bin: cannot logout, shut down or reboot from within a kde session

2014-07-15 Thread Felipe Sateler 
Control: forwarded -1 https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=328571

The correct upstream bug is the one above. As noted in that page, a
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Comments regarding attica-kf5_5.0.0-1_amd64.changes

2014-07-15 Thread Scott Kitterman 
I am going to mark this package for accept, but there are two copyright
holders missing from debian/copyright.  Please fix on your next upload.

src/version.h.cmake: * Copyright (C) 2007 Sebastian Trueg 
src/atticaclient_export.h.cmake:Copyright (c) 2011 Tudorica 
Constantin-Alexandru 

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Bug#754894: Jessie Qt5.3 is build with SSE2 enabled for i386

2014-07-15 Thread Boris Barbulovski 
Package: libqt5core5a (actually all qt5 libraries)
  Version: 5.3.1+dfsg-3(jessie)


>From Qt 5.3 SSE2 is enabled by default crashing every Qt app when run
on i386 version with older(non SSE2) processor.


Solution: Disable SSE2 when building Qt5 packages for i386.

I will paste paragraph from Phoronix article regarding this issue:

*- Qt 5.3 by default for 32-built builds now depends upon SSE2 CPU support.
 SSE2 CPUs have been around for the past decade and building code
optimized for SSE2+ will yield better performance. SSE2 has been found
since Intel Pentium 4 CPUs and for AMD hardware since the Opteron /
Athlon 64 debut. Those building Qt 5.3 i386 binaries wishing to support
ancient CPUs can pass -no-sse2 to still maintain pre-SSE2 compatibility.*

here is the article
.

Bug#754894: Jessie Qt5.3 is build with SSE2 enabled for i386

2014-07-15 Thread Lisandro Damián Nicanor Pérez Meyer 
reassign 754894 src:qtbase-opensource-src 5.2.0+dfsg-1
severity 754894 important
thanks

On Tuesday 15 July 2014 19:48:06 Boris Barbulovski wrote:
> Package: libqt5core5a (actually all qt5 libraries)
>   Version: 5.3.1+dfsg-3(jessie)
> 
> >From Qt 5.3 SSE2 is enabled by default crashing every Qt app when run
> 
> on i386 version with older(non SSE2) processor.
> 
> 
> Solution: Disable SSE2 when building Qt5 packages for i386.

Not quite.

> I will paste paragraph from Phoronix article regarding this issue:
> 
> *- Qt 5.3 by default for 32-built builds now depends upon SSE2 CPU support.
>  SSE2 CPUs have been around for the past decade and building code
> optimized for SSE2+ will yield better performance. SSE2 has been found
> since Intel Pentium 4 CPUs and for AMD hardware since the Opteron /
> Athlon 64 debut. Those building Qt 5.3 i386 binaries wishing to support
> ancient CPUs can pass -no-sse2 to still maintain pre-SSE2 compatibility.*
> 
> here is the article
> .

Please use good data sources: upstream.

There is a better fix pending someone to step up for doing the job. It's not 
that simple as "just disable SSE2" because that would render some parts simply 
unusable. 

The correct fix is to build *some* of the libs twice: one with SSE2 support 
and one without it. If properly installed the linker will do the correct job 
at runtime.

Interestingly enough, so far no one has reproduced this bug so far. Can you 
reproduce it? It would be good to know so you can tests the packages for us.

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Processed: Re: Bug#754894: Jessie Qt5.3 is build with SSE2 enabled for i386

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> reassign 754894 src:qtbase-opensource-src 5.2.0+dfsg-1
Bug #754894 [libqt5core5a (actually all qt5 libraries)] Jessie Qt5.3 is build 
with SSE2 enabled for i386
Warning: Unknown package 'actually'
Warning: Unknown package 'all'
Warning: Unknown package 'qt5'
Warning: Unknown package 'libraries'
Bug reassigned from package 'libqt5core5a (actually all qt5 libraries)' to 
'src:qtbase-opensource-src'.
Ignoring request to alter found versions of bug #754894 to the same values 
previously set
Ignoring request to alter fixed versions of bug #754894 to the same values 
previously set
Bug #754894 [src:qtbase-opensource-src] Jessie Qt5.3 is build with SSE2 enabled 
for i386
Marked as found in versions qtbase-opensource-src/5.2.0+dfsg-1.
> severity 754894 important
Bug #754894 [src:qtbase-opensource-src] Jessie Qt5.3 is build with SSE2 enabled 
for i386
Severity set to 'important' from 'normal'
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> reassign 754894 src:qtbase-opensource-src 5.2.0+dfsg-1
Bug #754894 [src:qtbase-opensource-src] Jessie Qt5.3 is build with SSE2 enabled 
for i386
Ignoring request to reassign bug #754894 to the same package
Bug #754894 [src:qtbase-opensource-src] Jessie Qt5.3 is build with SSE2 enabled 
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Ignoring request to alter found versions of bug #754894 to the same values 
previously set
> severity 754894 important
Bug #754894 [src:qtbase-opensource-src] Jessie Qt5.3 is build with SSE2 enabled 
for i386
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> reassign 754894 src:qtbase-opensource-src 5.3.0+dfsg-1
Bug #754894 [src:qtbase-opensource-src] Jessie Qt5.3 is build with SSE2 enabled 
for i386
Ignoring request to reassign bug #754894 to the same package
Bug #754894 [src:qtbase-opensource-src] Jessie Qt5.3 is build with SSE2 enabled 
for i386
Marked as found in versions qtbase-opensource-src/5.3.0+dfsg-1; no longer 
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Bug#754894: Jessie Qt5.3 is build with SSE2 enabled for i386

2014-07-15 Thread Boris Barbulovski 
On Tue, Jul 15, 2014 at 9:22 PM, Lisandro Damián Nicanor Pérez Meyer <
perezme...@gmail.com> wrote:

> reassign 754894 src:qtbase-opensource-src 5.2.0+dfsg-1
> severity 754894 important
> thanks
>
> On Tuesday 15 July 2014 19:48:06 Boris Barbulovski wrote:
> > Package: libqt5core5a (actually all qt5 libraries)
> >   Version: 5.3.1+dfsg-3(jessie)
> >
> > >From Qt 5.3 SSE2 is enabled by default crashing every Qt app when run
> >
> > on i386 version with older(non SSE2) processor.
> >
> >
> > Solution: Disable SSE2 when building Qt5 packages for i386.
>
> Not quite.
>

Here is the location when it crashes (
https://qt.gitorious.org/qt/qtbase/source/e0dc27d791cd2106f661bd3d949281aaf1239990:src/corelib/tools/qstring.cpp#L658
ignore the fact that it's qt git url.)
The crash location is first line after line '#ifdef __SSE2__'

here is the dgb output

(gdb) disas 0xb7984fb0, 0xb7984fff
Dump of assembler code from 0xb7984fb0 to 0xb7984fff:
   0xb7984fb0:mov%edx,%esi
   0xb7984fb2:shl$0x10,%esi
   0xb7984fb5:or %edx,%esi
   0xb7984fb7:lea0x10(%eax),%edx
   0xb7984fba:mov%esi,(%esp)
   0xb7984fbd:movd   (%esp),%xmm2
   0xb7984fc2:cmp%edx,%ebp
=> 0xb7984fc4:pshufd $0x0,%xmm2,%xmm1
   0xb7984fc9:jae0xb7984fd9
   0xb7984fcb:jmp0xb7984f6e
   0xb7984fcd:lea0x0(%esi),%esi
   0xb7984fd0:lea0x10(%edx),%eax
   0xb7984fd3:cmp%eax,%ebp
   0xb7984fd5:jb 0xb7984f70
   0xb7984fd7:mov%eax,%edx
   0xb7984fd9:movdqu -0x10(%edx),%xmm0
   0xb7984fde:lea-0x10(%edx),%esi
   0xb7984fe1:pcmpeqw %xmm1,%xmm0
   0xb7984fe5:pmovmskb %xmm0,%eax
   0xb7984fe9:test   %ax,%ax
   0xb7984fec:je 0xb7984fd0
   0xb7984fee:sub0xc(%esp),%esi



>
> > I will paste paragraph from Phoronix article regarding this issue:
> >
> > *- Qt 5.3 by default for 32-built builds now depends upon SSE2 CPU
> support.
> >  SSE2 CPUs have been around for the past decade and building code
> > optimized for SSE2+ will yield better performance. SSE2 has been found
> > since Intel Pentium 4 CPUs and for AMD hardware since the Opteron /
> > Athlon 64 debut. Those building Qt 5.3 i386 binaries wishing to support
> > ancient CPUs can pass -no-sse2 to still maintain pre-SSE2 compatibility.*
> >
> > here is the article
> > .
>
> Please use good data sources: upstream.
>
> There is a better fix pending someone to step up for doing the job. It's
> not
> that simple as "just disable SSE2" because that would render some parts
> simply
> unusable.
>
>
I don't understand what you mean by 'render some parts simply unusable'. Do
you mean some libraries will not compile? AFAIK SSE2 usage is for
performance reasons only(maybe I'm wrong).
I found this mail from Thiago Macieira(
http://lists.qt-project.org/pipermail/development/2013-November/014085.html)
where he explains the situation in more detail.



> The correct fix is to build *some* of the libs twice: one with SSE2 support
> and one without it. If properly installed the linker will do the correct
> job
> at runtime.
>
>
Thiago(in the mail thread above) suggest something like two versions of the
library.


> Interestingly enough, so far no one has reproduced this bug so far. Can you
> reproduce it? It would be good to know so you can tests the packages for
> us.
>
>
yes, I can reproduce the issue, and test the packages.



> Kinds regards, Lisandro.
>
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>
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br, Boris..

Bug#754200: KDM does not initialize keyboard backlight support properly

2014-07-15 Thread Andres Cimmarusti 
reassign 754200 kdm/4.11.9-1
forwarded 754200 https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=334321
retitle 754200 KDM does not initialize keyboard backlight support properly
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Unknown command or malformed arguments to command.
> forwarded 754200 https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=334321
Bug #754200 [kde-baseapps-bin] kde-baseapps-bin: KDE fails to recognize 
keyboard backlight capabilities on fresh boot
Set Bug forwarded-to-address to 'https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=334321'.
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Bug #754200 [kde-baseapps-bin] kde-baseapps-bin: KDE fails to recognize 
keyboard backlight capabilities on fresh boot
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Processed: reassign 754200 kdm

2014-07-15 Thread Debian Bug Tracking System 
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> reassign 754200 kdm
Bug #754200 [kde-baseapps-bin] KDM does not initialize keyboard backlight 
support properly
Bug reassigned from package 'kde-baseapps-bin' to 'kdm'.
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Bug#754797: [plasma-desktop] Needs additional packages

2014-07-15 Thread David Baron 
Package: plasma-desktop
Version: 4:4.11.9-1

--- Please enter the report below this line. ---
Installed additional packages, have activities.

However, creation of the activities made problems for the original single 
activity. That desktop got reverted to a previous configuration I thought was 
lost. No big deal, but indicates instability.

Can close this one.

--- System information. ---
Architecture: amd64
Kernel:   Linux 3.2.0-4-amd64

Debian Release: jessie/sid
  500 unstableftp.us.debian.org 
  500 testing ftp.us.debian.org 
  500 sid linux.dropbox.com 

--- Package information. ---
Depends   (Version) | Installed
===-+-===
kde-wallpapers-default  | 4:4.12.4-1
plasma-widgets-workspace (= 4:4.11.9-1) | 4:4.11.9-1
kde-runtime (>> 4:4.10) | 4:4.13.1-1
libc6 (>= 2.14) | 2.19-7
libkactivities6 (>= 4:4.11) | 4:4.13.1-1
libkcmutils4(>= 4:4.11) | 4:4.13.1-1
libkdecore5 (>= 4:4.11) | 4:4.13.1-1
libkdeui5   (>= 4:4.11) | 4:4.13.1-1
libkephal4abi1   (= 4:4.11.9-1) | 4:4.11.9-1
libkfile4   (>= 4:4.11) | 4:4.13.1-1
libkidletime4   (>= 4:4.11) | 4:4.13.1-1
libkio5 (>= 4:4.11) | 4:4.13.1-1
libknewstuff3-4 (>= 4:4.11) | 4:4.13.1-1
libktexteditor4 (>= 4:4.11) | 4:4.13.1-1
libkworkspace4abi2   (= 4:4.11.9-1) | 4:4.11.9-1
libplasma3  (>= 4:4.11) | 4:4.13.1-1
libplasmagenericshell4   (= 4:4.11.9-1) | 4:4.11.9-1
libqt4-dbus(>= 4:4.6.1) | 4:4.8.6+dfsg-2
libqt4-declarative (>= 4:4.7.0~rc1) | 4:4.8.6+dfsg-2
libqt4-xml (>= 4:4.5.3) | 4:4.8.6+dfsg-2
libqtcore4   (>= 4:4.7.0~beta1) | 4:4.8.6+dfsg-2
libqtgui4  (>= 4:4.8.0) | 4:4.8.6+dfsg-2
libsolid4   (>= 4:4.11) | 4:4.13.1-1
libstdc++6   (>= 4.1.1) | 4.9.0-11
libtaskmanager4abi4  (= 4:4.11.9-1) | 4:4.11.9-1
libx11-6| 2:1.6.2-2
libxext6| 2:1.3.2-1


Recommends (Version) | Installed
-+-===
kde-workspace| 4:4.11.9-1


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Re: Bug#754894: Jessie Qt5.3 is build with SSE2 enabled for i386

2014-07-15 Thread Lisandro Damián Nicanor Pérez Meyer 
On Tuesday 15 July 2014 22:20:42 Boris Barbulovski wrote:
> On Tue, Jul 15, 2014 at 9:22 PM, Lisandro Damián Nicanor Pérez Meyer <
> 
> perezme...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > reassign 754894 src:qtbase-opensource-src 5.2.0+dfsg-1
> > severity 754894 important
> > thanks
> > 
> > On Tuesday 15 July 2014 19:48:06 Boris Barbulovski wrote:
> > > Package: libqt5core5a (actually all qt5 libraries)
> > > 
> > >   Version: 5.3.1+dfsg-3(jessie)
> > > >
> > > >From Qt 5.3 SSE2 is enabled by default crashing every Qt app when run
> > > 
> > > on i386 version with older(non SSE2) processor.
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Solution: Disable SSE2 when building Qt5 packages for i c386.
> > 
> > Not quite.
> 
> Here is the location when it crashes

Thanks, but we know that part ;-)
 
[snip]

> > There is a better fix pending someone to step up for doing the job. It's
> > not
> > that simple as "just disable SSE2" because that would render some parts
> > simply
> > unusable.
> 
> I don't understand what you mean by 'render some parts simply unusable'. Do
> you mean some libraries will not compile? AFAIK SSE2 usage is for
> performance reasons only(maybe I'm wrong).
> I found this mail from Thiago Macieira(
> http://lists.qt-project.org/pipermail/development/2013-November/014085.html)
> where he explains the situation in more detail.

Performance issues can mean "simply unusable". And right, I'm referring to 
that same mail, first paragraph:

 According to Lars and Simon, the new V4's JIT engine generates floating-point
 math for QML only using SSE registers on x86. That means the JIT code cannot
 run on CPUs that don't have SSE support. Those CPUs can only run the
 interpreted bytecode instead.

> > The correct fix is to build *some* of the libs twice: one with SSE2
> > support
> > and one without it. If properly installed the linker will do the correct
> > job
> > at runtime.
> 
> Thiago(in the mail thread above) suggest something like two versions of the
> library.

That's where I learned it from ;)

> > Interestingly enough, so far no one has reproduced this bug so far. Can
> > you
> > reproduce it? It would be good to know so you can tests the packages for
> > us.
> 
> yes, I can reproduce the issue, and test the packages.

Now this is really cool, because it's what we need here. AFAIK no one of us 
maintainers have hardware to test this.

Kinds regards, Lisandro.

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