Bug#1001190: tracker.debian.org: news: emails: show Message-ID header, link to lists.d.o/msgid-search

[Raphael Hertzog]

Hi,

On Tue, 07 Dec 2021, Paul Wise wrote:
> Not necessarily, there are several options for this that would make it
> a very generic feature, some ideas:
> 
> When the List-Archive header exists and contains a URL, the link could
> be to that URL. This works for Debian lists and mailman lists and
> probably other types of lists too.

The tracker doesn't receive emails via mailing lists, it gets sent a
direct copy from the various services.

> distro-tracker could have a list of domains that are known to have
> Message-ID search URLs and then map the List-Id to those URLs.

What's the "domain" of an email message? The one from the sender?

> For domains that have no Message-ID search URLs but do have archive
> links for the Maintainer field, the link could be to just the top-level
> archive link used for the Maintainer field.

I don't see how this can be helpful if you have to look up the message on
your own.

> Once #1001254 is implemented, then the link could be to the DPT
> Message-ID search, in a similar way to how lists.d.o links to its
> Message-ID search from the Message-ID field in its archives.

This, however, is something that is clearly more in line with the logic
of distro tracker. I agree that a query to lookup a message-id could be
useful.

(And actually I am interested in tracking message-id of everything that
went through distro-tracker to be able to drop duplicates easily and/or
present other summary views to the respective maintainers)

> I think the options I presented above are generic enough to have a low
> enough cost. For cases not covered by them I think as a compromise, it
> would be reasonable to just show the Message-ID header with no link.

This is also reasonable, indeed.

Cheers,
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Bug#1001190: tracker.debian.org: news: emails: show Message-ID header, link to lists.d.o/msgid-search

[Paul Wise]

On Tue, 2021-12-07 at 09:23 +0100, Raphael Hertzog wrote:

> The tracker doesn't receive emails via mailing lists, it gets sent a
> direct copy from the various services.

Ah. That is the case for Debian but maybe not for other instances,
so I think this could be useful for some distros eventually.

> What's the "domain" of an email message? The one from the sender?

The one in the List-Id or the recipient that is a mailing list server,
but as you say that isn't available for Debian.

> I don't see how this can be helpful if you have to look up the message on
> your own.

Agreed, but it is better than having no idea where the archives are at
all and having to do a web search for that or go to the domain and then
try to find the mailing list and click into the list archives.

> This, however, is something that is clearly more in line with the logic
> of distro tracker. I agree that a query to lookup a message-id could be
> useful.

Excellent.

> (And actually I am interested in tracking message-id of everything that
> went through distro-tracker to be able to drop duplicates easily and/or
> present other summary views to the respective maintainers)

That seems useful too.

> > I think the options I presented above are generic enough to have a low
> > enough cost. For cases not covered by them I think as a compromise, it
> > would be reasonable to just show the Message-ID header with no link.
> 
> This is also reasonable, indeed.

Great.

Thanks for the discussion :)

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bye,
pabs

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