Bug#778240: tracker.debian.org has much worse display clarity

2016-02-15 Thread Raphael Hertzog
Hi,

I have deployed some CSS changes which will hopefully resolve most of your
concerns.

I kept the white background as I don't like the grey one. But I have set
the font color to black, reduced the line height to 1.05 on the package's
page and also dropped some padding on .list-group-item. I also configured
the same font-family as the old PTS.

Have a look and let me know if you're happy with the result.

Cheers,
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Bug#778240: tracker.debian.org has much worse display clarity

2016-02-15 Thread Sandro Tosi
On Mon, Feb 15, 2016 at 2:20 PM, Raphael Hertzog  wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> I have deployed some CSS changes which will hopefully resolve most of your
> concerns.
>
> I kept the white background as I don't like the grey one. But I have set
> the font color to black, reduced the line height to 1.05 on the package's
> page and also dropped some padding on .list-group-item. I also configured
> the same font-family as the old PTS.
>
> Have a look and let me know if you're happy with the result.

much much better, thanks!

last couple of minor things:

- the column on right seems to be wider than its contents: does it
have fixed size?
- what would you think about reducing the space between the boxes?
they just seem so far away one to the other

Thanks,
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Bug#778240: tracker.debian.org has much worse display clarity

2016-02-15 Thread Raphael Hertzog
Hi,

On Mon, 15 Feb 2016, Sandro Tosi wrote:
> - the column on right seems to be wider than its contents: does it
> have fixed size?

No, it's relative: 3/12 (aka 1/4) of the screen width. I changed this
so that it's only 2/12 (aka 1/6) on very big screens.

> - what would you think about reducing the space between the boxes?
> they just seem so far away one to the other

AFAIK this is much harder to do because it would really require rebuilding
bootstrap with different parameters. IOW, I would rather avoid it.

Cheers,
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Bug#778240: tracker.debian.org has much worse display clarity

2016-02-15 Thread Sandro Tosi
On Mon, Feb 15, 2016 at 2:51 PM, Raphael Hertzog  wrote:
> Hi,
>
> On Mon, 15 Feb 2016, Sandro Tosi wrote:
>> - the column on right seems to be wider than its contents: does it
>> have fixed size?
>
> No, it's relative: 3/12 (aka 1/4) of the screen width. I changed this
> so that it's only 2/12 (aka 1/6) on very big screens.

yup seems great now

>> - what would you think about reducing the space between the boxes?
>> they just seem so far away one to the other
>
> AFAIK this is much harder to do because it would really require rebuilding
> bootstrap with different parameters. IOW, I would rather avoid it.

fair enough (if it's just me)

it seems there is quite too much white, but it might be because I am
so much used to the "brutal" output of the PTS :)

slightly unrelated to this: in news box, if I click on the '2' i got
redirected to another page, while I was expecting to just redraw the
news box.

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Bug#778240: tracker.debian.org has much worse display clarity

2016-02-15 Thread Ian Jackson
Raphael Hertzog writes ("Re: Bug#778240: tracker.debian.org has much worse 
display clarity"):
> I have deployed some CSS changes which will hopefully resolve most of your
> concerns.

Thanks.  This is a big improvement.

> I kept the white background as I don't like the grey one. But I have set
> the font color to black, reduced the line height to 1.05 on the package's
> page and also dropped some padding on .list-group-item. I also configured
> the same font-family as the old PTS.

The black tet is now legible, thanks.  The biggest remaining problem
for me is that the links are still in a very pale shade of blue.

Would you consider adopting the change proposed by Stéphane Blondon in
his mail of the 2nd of January in his suggestion:
  tracker 3:
  
http://stephane.yaal.fr/tmp/tracker3/Debian%20Package%20Tracker%20-%20most.html

I still prefer some other aspects of the old style:  For example, the
font still seems narrower and taller than the old pts; I find the
wider shorter version somewhat more legible.  And the inter-item gap
in the "news" section is still larger, which I find a waste of
valueable space.  But these are more clearly matters of taste and I
won't fight over them.

Thanks,
Ian.



Bug#778240: tracker.debian.org has much worse display clarity

2016-02-15 Thread Christophe Siraut
> Have a look and let me know if you're happy with the result.

I think the line-height is too narrow, not in balance, and makes it less
readable. I don't care much, nor intend to argue.

Regards,
Christophe



Bug#778240: tracker.debian.org has much worse display clarity

2016-02-15 Thread Raphael Hertzog
On Mon, 15 Feb 2016, Christophe Siraut wrote:
> > Have a look and let me know if you're happy with the result.
> 
> I think the line-height is too narrow, not in balance, and makes it less
> readable. I don't care much, nor intend to argue.

FWIW I also find it less readable but it's true that you have more data on
a single screen and this is also something important for that kind of
page. That request has been made multiple times and I think some
concession was in order.

That's why I reduced the line height only on the package page and on the
team page but not on any other pages...

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Bug#791924: marked as done (tracker.d.o: please compact the visualization)

2016-02-15 Thread Debian Bug Tracking System
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Package: qa.debian.org
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Hello,
please compare an example like:

https://tracker.debian.org/pkg/gdb
https://packages.qa.debian.org/g/gdb.html

in PTS the information are displayed in a much more compacted manner, please
setup tracker to remove all that extra space.

Thanks,
Sandro

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On Mon, 15 Feb 2016, Ian Jackson wrote:
> > I kept the white background as I don't like the grey one. But I have set
> > the font color to black, reduced the line height to 1.05 on the package's
> > page and also dropped some padding on .list-group-item. I also configured
> > the same font-family as the old PTS.
> 
> The black tet is now legible, thanks.  The biggest remaining problem
> for me is that the links are still in a very pale shade of blue.

Ok, changed the blue of the links to the one you proposed.

> I still prefer some other aspects of the old style:  For example, the
> font still seems narrower and taller than the old pts; I find the
> wider shorter version somewhat more legible.  And the inter-item gap
> in the "news" section is still larger, which I find a waste of
> valueable space.  But these are more clearly matters of taste and I
> won't fight over them.

OK, then I'll close this bug as I don't want to tighten it further
and the default font size is something that is easily changed in the
browser.

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Bug#778240: tracker.debian.org has much worse display clarity

2016-02-15 Thread Ian Jackson
(Sending this again to 778...@bugs.debian.org, not -done.)

Raphael Hertzog writes ("Re: Bug#778240: tracker.debian.org has much worse 
display clarity"):
> On Mon, 15 Feb 2016, Ian Jackson wrote:
> > The black tet is now legible, thanks.  The biggest remaining problem
> > for me is that the links are still in a very pale shade of blue.
> 
> Ok, changed the blue of the links to the one you proposed.

Thanks!

> > I still prefer some other aspects of the old style:  For example, the
> > font still seems narrower and taller than the old pts; I find the
> > wider shorter version somewhat more legible.  And the inter-item gap
> > in the "news" section is still larger, which I find a waste of
> > valueable space.  But these are more clearly matters of taste and I
> > won't fight over them.
> 
> OK, then I'll close this bug as I don't want to tighten it further

Thanks for listening to our feedback, and for your work on the new
tracker.  I'll start using it now :-).


Not really important now, but:

> and the default font size is something that is easily changed in the
> browser.

I did just want to point out that this is not really relevant.  The
relevant question is "how much information can be presented readably
on a particular size and quality of screen".

Obviously the user can (and will) increase or decrease the font size
to try to maximise this measure.  But a less-readable font or layout
means that the font has to be made larger, worsening the
information/legibility tradeoff.


Thanks,
Ian.