Bug#348971: qa.debian.org: please consider converting PTS to a CSS layout

2006-03-01 Thread Florian Weimer
* Marc Haber:

> On Wed, Feb 01, 2006 at 09:47:59AM +0100, Florian Weimer wrote:
>> * Marc Haber:
>> > Having never really understood the rather sparsely documented apt.conf
>> > syntax, I am reluctant to use apt to keep metadata current on a system
>> > without root privileges.
>> 
>> The secure-testing archive contains a self-contained reimplementation
>> in Python with a very simple command-line interface (guess why).
>
> Is that script publicly available or packaged?

It is part of the security-testing Subversion repository.


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Re: Bug#348971: qa.debian.org: please consider converting PTS to a CSS layout

2006-03-01 Thread Jeroen van Wolffelaar
On Wed, Mar 01, 2006 at 08:02:32AM +0100, Florian Weimer wrote:
> * Marc Haber:
> > On Wed, Feb 01, 2006 at 09:47:59AM +0100, Florian Weimer wrote:
> >> The secure-testing archive contains a self-contained reimplementation
> >> in Python with a very simple command-line interface (guess why).
> > Is that script publicly available or packaged?
> It is part of the security-testing Subversion repository.

Can you please stop cc'ing the bug on this meanwhile very offtopic
discussion? The bug is about getting CSS used on the PTS (patches
welcome, fwiw), and has nothing todo with with package data extraction.

Thanks,
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Re: Bug#348971: qa.debian.org: please consider converting PTS to a CSS layout

2006-03-01 Thread Francesco Paolo Lovergine
On Wed, Mar 01, 2006 at 08:02:32AM +0100, Florian Weimer wrote:
> > On Wed, Feb 01, 2006 at 09:47:59AM +0100, Florian Weimer wrote:
> >> * Marc Haber:
> >> > Having never really understood the rather sparsely documented apt.conf
> >> > syntax, I am reluctant to use apt to keep metadata current on a system
> >> > without root privileges.
> >> 
> >> The secure-testing archive contains a self-contained reimplementation
> >> in Python with a very simple command-line interface (guess why).
> >
> > Is that script publicly available or packaged?
> 
> It is part of the security-testing Subversion repository.
> 

That reminds me: is there a webservice thought for PTS? I think it could
be very useful for remote scripting...

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Re: Bug#348971: qa.debian.org: please consider converting PTS to a CSS layout

2006-03-01 Thread Jeroen van Wolffelaar
On Wed, Mar 01, 2006 at 04:47:43PM +0100, Francesco Paolo Lovergine wrote:
> That reminds me: is there a webservice thought for PTS? I think it could
> be very useful for remote scripting...

What do you mean, 'webservice'? PTS *is* a webservice (next to also
being a email service, that actually is mostly independent).

Can you please be more specific to what exactly you're missing and would
like to see available?

--Jeroen

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Re: Bug#348971: qa.debian.org: please consider converting PTS to a CSS layout

2006-03-01 Thread Alexis Sukrieh
* Jeroen van Wolffelaar ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) disait :
> On Wed, Mar 01, 2006 at 04:47:43PM +0100, Francesco Paolo Lovergine wrote:
> > That reminds me: is there a webservice thought for PTS? I think it could
> > be very useful for remote scripting...
> 
> What do you mean, 'webservice'? PTS *is* a webservice (next to also
> being a email service, that actually is mostly independent).

I suppose frankie was speaking about something like a SOAP interface or alike,
in order to be able to query the PTS remotely, within a script.

Cheers,

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Data access for the PTS (Was: Re: Bug#348971: qa.debian.org: please consider converting PTS to a CSS layout)

2006-03-01 Thread Jeroen van Wolffelaar
On Wed, Mar 01, 2006 at 05:29:29PM +0100, Alexis Sukrieh wrote:
> * Jeroen van Wolffelaar ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) disait :
> > On Wed, Mar 01, 2006 at 04:47:43PM +0100, Francesco Paolo Lovergine wrote:
> > > That reminds me: is there a webservice thought for PTS? I think it could
> > > be very useful for remote scripting...
> > 
> > What do you mean, 'webservice'? PTS *is* a webservice (next to also
> > being a email service, that actually is mostly independent).
> 
> I suppose frankie was speaking about something like a SOAP interface or alike,
> in order to be able to query the PTS remotely, within a script.

Personally I think SOAP is overrated, overhyped, or both. But as the PTS
uses XML to store its data internally anyway, it might be easy to fix.
I'm not going to spend my energy on it though, so "patches welcome".

After all, we already have machine-readeable sources for most if not all
of the stuff the PTS can provide, and -- at least for the Packages &
Sources files -- are well defined, well mirrored, and will remain
backwards compatible etc etc.

--Jeroen

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Re: Data access for the PTS (Was: Re: Bug#348971: qa.debian.org: please consider converting PTS to a CSS layout)

2006-03-01 Thread Raphael Hertzog
On Wed, 01 Mar 2006, Jeroen van Wolffelaar wrote:
> > I suppose frankie was speaking about something like a SOAP interface or 
> > alike,
> > in order to be able to query the PTS remotely, within a script.
> 
> Personally I think SOAP is overrated, overhyped, or both. But as the PTS
> uses XML to store its data internally anyway, it might be easy to fix.
> I'm not going to spend my energy on it though, so "patches welcome".

Well, the PTS aggregates all the data in XML files. It makes sense to make
those XML files available on the web so that they can be directly
downloaded and used by scripts (no need to invent a SOAP interface around
that).

I just made that by setting up a symlink:

http://packages.qa.debian.org/base/ provides all the intermediary XML
files used by the PTS

Just check what files are available for each package:
http://packages.qa.debian.org/base/i/icebreaker/

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Re: Data access for the PTS (Was: Re: Bug#348971: qa.debian.org: please consider converting PTS to a CSS layout)

2006-03-01 Thread Jeroen van Wolffelaar
On Wed, Mar 01, 2006 at 07:16:49PM +0100, Raphael Hertzog wrote:
> On Wed, 01 Mar 2006, Jeroen van Wolffelaar wrote:
> > > I suppose frankie was speaking about something like a SOAP interface or 
> > > alike,
> > > in order to be able to query the PTS remotely, within a script.
> > 
> > Personally I think SOAP is overrated, overhyped, or both. But as the PTS
> > uses XML to store its data internally anyway, it might be easy to fix.
> > I'm not going to spend my energy on it though, so "patches welcome".
> 
> Well, the PTS aggregates all the data in XML files. It makes sense to make
> those XML files available on the web so that they can be directly
> downloaded and used by scripts (no need to invent a SOAP interface around
> that).
> 
> I just made that by setting up a symlink:
> 
> http://packages.qa.debian.org/base/ provides all the intermediary XML
> files used by the PTS

Erm, I didn't want to do that, because it'll open up base/ for everyone
to crawl, including spambots. And all the mails are there without any
headers removed, including internal PTS addresses that should not be
exposed, to avoid spam causing havoc.

There'll need to come a way without exposing all the raw mails to the
whole world, if we'd really do it this way. By the way, exposing this
also means that changing the format might now suddenly also break
external programs, while previously, changing the format was no problem
at all. For now I've removed the symlink, let's discuss this a bit
further first :). Interested DD's can look in
master:/org/packages.qa.debian.org/www/base, or simply download the code
and run their own PTS web frontend -- this will produce their own .xml
files.

--Jeroen

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Re: Data access for the PTS (Was: Re: Bug#348971: qa.debian.org: please consider converting PTS to a CSS layout)

2006-03-01 Thread Raphael Hertzog
On Wed, 01 Mar 2006, Jeroen van Wolffelaar wrote:
> Erm, I didn't want to do that, because it'll open up base/ for everyone
> to crawl, including spambots. And all the mails are there without any
> headers removed, including internal PTS addresses that should not be
> exposed, to avoid spam causing havoc.

Right, but we could filter out most of the headers and keep only the few
that we care about. This shouldn't be too difficult. Most mails published
in the PTS are also published somewhere else (debian-devel-changes lists
archives, gmane, google groups, ...) so in fact we should care only about
the PTS internal adresses.

> whole world, if we'd really do it this way. By the way, exposing this
> also means that changing the format might now suddenly also break
> external programs, while previously, changing the format was no problem
> at all. 

Sure, but well, that's life. We'll just say it clearly: this is internal
stuff that you can use, but it may thus evolve over time !

It's not a big deal for little home made scripts. :)

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Processed: Reassigning / merging #323934

2006-03-01 Thread Debian Bug Tracking System
Processing commands for [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

> reassign 323934 qa.debian.org
Bug#323934: qa.debian.org: search by GPG key does not work anymore in 
http://qa.debian.org/developer.php
Bug reassigned from package `www.debian.org' to `qa.debian.org'.

> merge 323934 321715
Bug#321715: www.debian.org: qa.debian.org's Developer's Package overview 
doesn't work by gpg key any more
Bug#323934: qa.debian.org: search by GPG key does not work anymore in 
http://qa.debian.org/developer.php
Bug#307461: qa.debian.org: displays "GPG key id not found" for non-DD
Merged 307461 321715 323934.

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Re: QA activities list?

2006-03-01 Thread Martin Michlmayr
* Kurt Roeckx <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2006-02-17 00:19]:
> I'm rebuilding testing against testing to find such problems.  I
> think other people are doing the same with unstable.

Do you know whether there are any tools that make this easy?
Obviously, I know about sbuilder & co.  However, what I'm mostly
interested in is in a way to skip building packages that are known to
FTBFS.  I suppose I could simply ignore packages that have RC bugs,
but there must be a better way.

I'd like to build the whole archive on MIPS to test GCC 4.1, so I'd
like to hear about scripts that make this easy.
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