Re: dehs will stop
[Why to cc on policy? Cut] On Mon, Feb 28, 2005 at 03:32:30AM +0100, Bluefuture wrote: > >If people don't care as much about this as you think they should, > >perhaps it would be a good idea to try explaining why they *should* > >care, instead of just lamenting their lack of a telepathic > >understanding of your intentions? > > This is not true. Had u tried to do a search about dehs/watch on > debian-devel about 2004/2005? I didn't. Just change the content of this mail into one of the pages of your site, and you're set. > I'm not a debian developer, so i could not post on dda mailing list. I > had opened many thread over this months on debian-qa debian-devel about > dehs issues. The only reply are: > > 1) Dehs is useless. > 2) Submitting 6229 wishlist bug is not possible/is not the solution > (without proposing alternatives method) > > I had try to randomly submit wishlist bugs for 6 packages to bts with > the tag "patch" pointing to the dehs site or attaching the watch file to > the bug. > Almost all of this bug was closed and the watch file was check (in some > cases fixed) and inserted in the package on the next upload. So, you got the way to go. Please go ahead and submit those 6229 bugs. Providing a patch *is* an alternative method. We did the same sort of wishlish bug mass filling with the transition from raw debconf to po-debconf. We had less packages to bug, though. It represents an insane amount of work, but it's the way to go, I guess. What's useless is to fill the bug without the patches, but if you write the watch file for the people, nobody should complain. Good luck, Mt. signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: dehs will stop
On Sun, Mar 06, 2005 at 10:49:47AM +0100, Martin Quinson wrote: > [Why to cc on policy? Cut] > > On Mon, Feb 28, 2005 at 03:32:30AM +0100, Bluefuture wrote: > > > >If people don't care as much about this as you think they should, > > >perhaps it would be a good idea to try explaining why they *should* > > >care, instead of just lamenting their lack of a telepathic > > >understanding of your intentions? > > > > This is not true. Had u tried to do a search about dehs/watch on > > debian-devel about 2004/2005? > > I didn't. Just change the content of this mail into one of the pages of your > site, and you're set. > > > I'm not a debian developer, so i could not post on dda mailing list. I > > had opened many thread over this months on debian-qa debian-devel about > > dehs issues. The only reply are: > > > > 1) Dehs is useless. > > 2) Submitting 6229 wishlist bug is not possible/is not the solution > > (without proposing alternatives method) > > > > I had try to randomly submit wishlist bugs for 6 packages to bts with > > the tag "patch" pointing to the dehs site or attaching the watch file to > > the bug. > > Almost all of this bug was closed and the watch file was check (in some > > cases fixed) and inserted in the package on the next upload. > > So, you got the way to go. Please go ahead and submit those 6229 bugs. NO! Do *not* file 6229 bugs about the same subject. Never. Adding a watchfile is up to the maintainer. It's a feature offered to maintainers, they can use it if the wish. If a watchfile for a package makes sense (for quite some packages it doesn't) I think it's useful. In no case should 6229 bugs be filed about these watchfiles that don't have ANY effect on the resulting binary packages. --Jeroen -- Jeroen van Wolffelaar [EMAIL PROTECTED] (also for Jabber & MSN; ICQ: 33944357) http://Jeroen.A-Eskwadraat.nl
Re: dehs will stop
Jeroen van Wolffelaar wrote: [snip] > > > I had try to randomly submit wishlist bugs for 6 packages to bts with > > > the tag "patch" pointing to the dehs site or attaching the watch file to > > > the bug. > > > Almost all of this bug was closed and the watch file was check (in some > > > cases fixed) and inserted in the package on the next upload. > > > > So, you got the way to go. Please go ahead and submit those 6229 bugs. > > NO! > > Do *not* file 6229 bugs about the same subject. Never. Why not? As wishlist bugs with patch this seems sensible to me. > Adding a watchfile is up to the maintainer. It's a feature offered to > maintainers, they can use it if the wish. If a watchfile for a package > makes sense (for quite some packages it doesn't) I think it's useful. If upstream doesn't publish tarballs, e.g. In this case there won't be a meaningful patch for a watchfile. In any case it's up to the maintainer to decide about its inclusion. I believe most of them will accept such a patch. Thiemo -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: dehs will stop
Re: Thiemo Seufer in <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Do *not* file 6229 bugs about the same subject. Never. > > Why not? As wishlist bugs with patch this seems sensible to me. I assume that you will hand-check the patches in those 6229 bug reports that the watch files actually do the right thing before you submit the reports? Christoph -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] | http://www.df7cb.de/ signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: dehs will stop
Christoph Berg wrote: > Re: Thiemo Seufer in <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > Do *not* file 6229 bugs about the same subject. Never. > > > > Why not? As wishlist bugs with patch this seems sensible to me. > > I assume that you will hand-check the patches in those 6229 bug > reports that the watch files actually do the right thing before you > submit the reports? How else could it be a useful patch? Btw, I'm not volunteering for that task. Thiemo signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: dehs will stop
On Sun, Mar 06, 2005 at 06:44:37PM +0100, Jeroen van Wolffelaar wrote: > On Sun, Mar 06, 2005 at 10:49:47AM +0100, Martin Quinson wrote: > > > > On Mon, Feb 28, 2005 at 03:32:30AM +0100, Bluefuture wrote: > > > > > I'm not a debian developer, so i could not post on dda mailing list. I > > > had opened many thread over this months on debian-qa debian-devel about > > > dehs issues. The only reply are: > > > > > > 1) Dehs is useless. > > > 2) Submitting 6229 wishlist bug is not possible/is not the solution > > > (without proposing alternatives method) > > > > > > I had try to randomly submit wishlist bugs for 6 packages to bts with > > > the tag "patch" pointing to the dehs site or attaching the watch file to > > > the bug. > > > Almost all of this bug was closed and the watch file was check (in some > > > cases fixed) and inserted in the package on the next upload. > > > > So, you got the way to go. Please go ahead and submit those 6229 bugs. > > NO! > > Do *not* file 6229 bugs about the same subject. Never. > > Adding a watchfile is up to the maintainer. It's a feature offered to > maintainers, they can use it if the wish. If a watchfile for a package > makes sense (for quite some packages it doesn't) I think it's useful. > In no case should 6229 bugs be filed about these watchfiles that don't > have ANY effect on the resulting binary packages. Erm. You did cut what I said, ie, that if someone wants to write the few thousands missing watch files and provide them as wishlist bug, I'd say that they should proceed. People not wanting of those watch files can always mark the bug wontfix if it's a political opinion, or close the bug if it does not make any sense in their case. Of course, mass bug filling saying "please do the job I'd like to see done" is never a solution. That's not what I proposed. That's not what we did for the po-debconf transition. And hoping that maintainers are perfect and will write everybit of the needed infrastructure alone is a dream. I welcome any transversal help offer. That's QA job, and that's good, IMHO. Thanks, Mt. signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Forwarding mails from packages.d.o to the PTS
Hi people. It was suggested to me that we should forward mails received at @packages.debian.org to @packages.qa.debian.org so that subscribers to the package also get these mails. This would of course require to disable the check fot the PTS header for these mails. What do others think of that idea. (Unless there are some objections I will implement that in a few days or so) Gruesse, -- Frank Lichtenheld <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> www: http://www.djpig.de/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Forwarding mails from packages.d.o to the PTS
* Frank Lichtenheld [Sun, 06 Mar 2005 23:33:52 +0100]: > What do others think of that idea. (Unless there are some objections I > will implement that in a few days or so) I've been wanting this for a long time, thanks. /me deletes a mail from postponed dated Oct 9th... -- Adeodato Simó EM: asp16 [ykwim] alu.ua.es | PK: DA6AE621 A hacker does for love what other would not do for money. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
