Re: Helping busy maintainers

2003-10-21 Thread Martin Michlmayr
* Romain Francoise <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2003-10-12 19:59]:
>   W: libkemo-m104 source: out-of-date-standards-version 3.5.2
> 
> Martin, what do you think?

The maintainer told me that he tried to contact the upstream
maintainer and was told this library is no loner supported.  I filed a
request for removal.

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Re: Developer's Packages Overview formatting

2003-10-21 Thread Igor Genibel
* Andrew Lau <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2003-10-15 14:58:33 +1000]:

> Hi Igor and QA, 

Hi Andrew,

> Could you please format the Developer's Packages Overview at Debian QA
> so  that  co-maintained  packages  are  displayed  separately  from  a
> maintainer's own packages?

I need to rewrite the engine and provide an option to display or not the
co-maintaning packages. I will do this for the next weeks.

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Re: Developer's Packages Overview formatting

2003-10-21 Thread Sven Luther
On Tue, Oct 21, 2003 at 12:53:42PM +0200, Igor Genibel wrote:
> * Andrew Lau <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2003-10-15 14:58:33 +1000]:
> 
> > Hi Igor and QA, 
> 
> Hi Andrew,
> 
> > Could you please format the Developer's Packages Overview at Debian QA
> > so  that  co-maintained  packages  are  displayed  separately  from  a
> > maintainer's own packages?
> 
> I need to rewrite the engine and provide an option to display or not the
> co-maintaning packages. I will do this for the next weeks.

Ideally, it would be possible to create lists of packages that could be
overviewed together, for those developers who have lot of packages, or
for group of packages that are commonly maintained.

Friendly,

Sven Luther



Re: Developer's Packages Overview formatting

2003-10-21 Thread Igor Genibel
* Sven Luther <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2003-10-21 13:37:09 +0200]:

> > I need to rewrite the engine and provide an option to display or not
> > the co-maintaning packages. I will do this for the next weeks.
>
> Ideally, it would be possible to create lists of packages  that  could
> be overviewed together, for those developers who have lot of packages,
> or for group of packages that are commonly maintained.

Hum, this is not a realistic thing since the main aim of DDPO is to
provide "synthetic" information. This is not an ugly web application
that manage cookies, sessions, etc.

But if you have the time, patches are welcome ;)

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Re: Developer's Packages Overview formatting

2003-10-21 Thread Sven Luther
On Tue, Oct 21, 2003 at 02:29:34PM +0200, Igor Genibel wrote:
> * Sven Luther <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2003-10-21 13:37:09 +0200]:
> 
> > > I need to rewrite the engine and provide an option to display or not
> > > the co-maintaning packages. I will do this for the next weeks.
> >
> > Ideally, it would be possible to create lists of packages  that  could
> > be overviewed together, for those developers who have lot of packages,
> > or for group of packages that are commonly maintained.
> 
> Hum, this is not a realistic thing since the main aim of DDPO is to
> provide "synthetic" information. This is not an ugly web application
> that manage cookies, sessions, etc.

Well, the idea is to have an overview of groups of packages which are
related (and need to go into testing together). For example i manage,
together with a few other developers, the ocaml debian packages. In
order to get them in testing, i have to look at the buildd results of
all those packages and the excuse files also. Sure, the Bjorn script
helps, but i still go to the package overview of myself, and also of
Stefano and Jerome who maintain most (but not all) the other related
packages.

The idea is to have 'pools' of packages, the ocaml pool, the gnome pool,
the kde pool, the powerpc-arch support pool, the whatever pool, and be
able to get a quick overview of the situation of those packages, and
quickly find the place where problems are and investigate the bug
reports and other reasons why the autobuilders are not doing their jobs
(they where waiting on the wrong build-depend for example in my case,
and had i not looked at Stefano's page together with mine and Bjorn's
script, i may not have noticed).

Some packages share a much stronger relationship between themselves than
the coincidental fact that they are maintained by the same person.

Friendly,

Sven Luther



Re: Developer's Packages Overview formatting

2003-10-21 Thread Igor Genibel
* Sven Luther <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2003-10-21 14:35:59 +0200]:

Sven,

[...]
> Some packages share a much stronger  relationship  between  themselves
> than the coincidental fact  that  they  are  maintained  by  the  same
> person.

I don't want to close this discuss  but  the  DDPO  (Debian  Developer's
Packages  Overview)  is  about  developers,  not   packages.   All   the
information are structured around the developer not the packages.

If this kind of feature is necessary, all the backend and  most  of  the
frontend had to be rewritten in order to match the new aim.

I don't want/have enough time to do such thing but it could really be  a
good thing if one wants to implement this.

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Re: Developer's Packages Overview formatting

2003-10-21 Thread Sven Luther
On Tue, Oct 21, 2003 at 03:13:30PM +0200, Igor Genibel wrote:
> * Sven Luther <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2003-10-21 14:35:59 +0200]:
> 
> Sven,
> 
> [...]
> > Some packages share a much stronger  relationship  between  themselves
> > than the coincidental fact  that  they  are  maintained  by  the  same
> > person.
> 
> I don't want to close this discuss  but  the  DDPO  (Debian  Developer's
> Packages  Overview)  is  about  developers,  not   packages.   All   the
> information are structured around the developer not the packages.
> 
> If this kind of feature is necessary, all the backend and  most  of  the
> frontend had to be rewritten in order to match the new aim.
> 
> I don't want/have enough time to do such thing but it could really be  a
> good thing if one wants to implement this.

No problem, i just wanted to mention it in case it was easily possible
to do it or something, and to put the idea out for thinking about it. 

Please put it in the TODO or whatever list for some time to think about
it when there is a redesign though.

Friendly,

Sven Luther
> 
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