Re: python-gevent, python-greenlet, debug packages, hurd, and testing.

2018-07-23 Thread GCS
On Mon, Jul 23, 2018 at 2:35 AM peter green  wrote:
> python-gevent cannot currently be built in testing because it has a 
> build-dependency on python-greenlet (>= 0.4.13) but testing only has 
> 0.4.12-2. This is technically a RC bug (violates "Packages must be buildable 
> within the same release." but AIUI in such cases it is generally considered 
> more productive to investigate why there is a delta between testing and 
> unstable than file a bug against the victim of the delta.
>
> After digging into the britney update output it seems that the new 
> python-gevent is not migrating to testing because the python-greenlet no 
> longer builds -dbg packages but the old -dbg packages are still in unstable.
[...]
> Following the general principle that issues affecting release architectures 
> in testing (python-gevent being unbuildable in testing) are more important 
> than issues that only affect non-release architectures in unstable (some 
> uninstallable -dbg packages on hurd) I filed a removal request asking for the 
> old -dbg packages to be removed so that python-greenlet could migrate to 
> testing. I cc'd the removal request to the 
> "python-green...@packages.debian.org" maintainer alias in case the maintainer 
> had any concerns.
 I plan to add back -dbg packages to python-greenlet.

> Anyway Scott Kitterman (a ftp assistant) replied to my removal request with 
> the following.
> >> It appears these are not being removed automatically because they are
> >> depended on by out of date binaries on hurd. Can you clean them up
> >> manually?
> > This is certainly possible, but is deleting the -dbg packages really the 
> > best solution?
> > For python debug packages to work, they need to run with the debug version 
> > of the python
> > interpreter, which -dbgsym packages make no provision for.
 He is right, I shouldn't remove the -dbg packages from a Python package.

> > Generally, for python packages, it's desirable to keep the traditional -dbg 
> > packages.
>
> I am far from a python expert, I am just a random dd pushing on an issue that 
> I noticed as
> a result of running a downstream distribution.
>
> So I am passing Scott's comment on to the package maintainer and to Debian's 
> python
> experts so that hopefully a descision can be taken to either tell the 
> ftpmasters to
> go ahead with the removal of the old dbg packages or to reintroduce the -dbg 
> packages
> to the  python-gevent and python-greenlet source packages.
 I didn't receive a reply from others, but I plan to re-add the -dbg
packages for reasons mentioned above.

> More generally I find it surprising that given that python apparently has 
> special
> requirements regarding dbg packages this does not seem to be addressed in the 
> python
> policy.
 It would be nice to add this to the Python policy.

Regards,
Laszlo/GCS



Re: [mm-deb] Bug#242740: Help needed on obscure mailman bug

2004-04-20 Thread GCS
Hi,

 Seems the user's last feedback on list_lists output was sent only to
me, but not to the BTS. I think it's provide vital information, so I Cc
it.

On Tue, Apr 20, 2004 at 02:56:21PM +0200, Siggy Brentrup <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
> The bug submission (more exactly a followup) contains the following
> unreproducible traceback:
[...snip...]
>   File "/usr/lib/python2.3/email/Charset.py", line 13, in ?
> lower_map = string.maketrans(string.ascii_uppercase,
> string.ascii_lowercase)
> AttributeError: 'module' object has no attribute 'ascii_uppercase'
> 
> which smells like a broken python installation to me.  When asked for
> running and reporting results
> 
>  snip 
> python < import string
> print string
> print string.ascii_uppercase
> import email.Charset
> print email.Charset
> EOF
>  snip 
> 
> It should read:
>  snip 
> 
> ABCDEFGHIJKLMNOPQRSTUVWXYZ
> 
>  snip 
> 
> the answer was:
> 
> > It does. No Problem at all... But the mailman still does not
> > run... :-(
 
 When I have asked for list_lists's output (this would list the Mailman
lists from shell), I got this feedback:
| Traceback (most recent call last):
|   File "./list_lists", line 47, in ?
| from Mailman import MailList
|   File "/var/lib/mailman/Mailman/MailList.py", line 39, in ?
| import email.Iterators
|   File "/usr/lib/python2.3/email/Iterators.py", line 10, in ?
| from email._compat22 import body_line_iterator,
| typed_subpart_iterator
|   File "/usr/lib/python2.3/email/_compat22.py", line 7, in ?
| from __future__ import generators
| ImportError: cannot import name generators
|
| i have removed/installed python2.2 and python2.3 incl. dependencies
| and so
| on..
 All I could came up was these:
- a similar problem and solution was archived at
  http://mail.python.org/pipermail/python-list/2002-June/111047.html
  Which said that $PYTHONPATH was incorrect.
- a mailman installation fails with the same error online at
  http://lists.hanfmuseum.de/mailman/listinfo
  Judging from the dump of the environment variables dump, it's about
  the same problem: $PYTHONPATH is set to /var/lib/mailman . Is that
  made by Mailman, user or any other thing, I do not know; neither if
  the user's problem shares the same root.

Cheers,
Laszlo


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Re: Package adoptions

2013-02-18 Thread Laszlo Boszormenyi (GCS)
On Mon, 2013-02-18 at 19:34 +, Javi Merino wrote:
> On Mon, Feb 18, 2013 at 05:24:34AM +0800, Thomas Goirand wrote:
> > On 02/18/2013 04:43 AM, Vincent Bernat wrote:
> > > I am currently too short on time to do anything but I have high interest
> > > in both setproctitle and gevent and therefore if nobody steps in, I will
> > > maintain them under the DPMPT. I could also take python-greenlet since
> > > it seems in good shape.
> > I may help as well with python-greenlet if needed. It's a dependency for
> > ceilometer, cinder, heat, keystone and nova...
> 
> Please note that python-greenlet is currently maintained by Laszlo
> Boszormenyi[0] (cced) so if you guys are interested in it, you should
> contact him.
 Sorry, I was away for some days. I'm a DD and as Javi notes, I maintain
python-greenlet. I was taking steps to get over on the other, mentioned
packages as well. I've half-ready/odobted packages and would like to
maintain them.

Regards,
Laszlo/GCS


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