Re: Python 2 in the default installation -- progress made!
On Fri, Dec 30, 2016 at 06:52:37AM +0100, Matthias Klose wrote: > I don't know the rationale for having the apt and gpg bindings as Priority > standard, but if these can be made optional, then the depending packages can > be > made optional as well. python-apt is standard because it was used by apt-listchanges which is standard, and nobody followed the transition to Python 3 in apt-listchanges by switching the priorities in python-apt (2 should become optional, 3 standard). -- Debian Developer - deb.li/jak | jak-linux.org - free software dev | Ubuntu Core Developer | When replying, only quote what is necessary, and write each reply directly below the part(s) it pertains to ('inline'). Thank you.
Re: Python 2 in the default installation -- progress made!
On Fri, 30 Dec 2016 10:14:20 Julian Andres Klode wrote: > On Fri, Dec 30, 2016 at 06:52:37AM +0100, Matthias Klose wrote: > > I don't know the rationale for having the apt and gpg bindings as Priority > > standard, but if these can be made optional, then the depending packages > > can be made optional as well. > > python-apt is standard because it was used by apt-listchanges which is > standard, and nobody followed the transition to Python 3 in apt-listchanges > by switching the priorities in python-apt (2 should become optional, 3 > standard). While python-apt being Priority:standard is indeed a relic of the old apt- listchanges dependency (I forgot to mention that relationship in my earlier mail, sorry), it is no longer useful or required for python3-apt to have its priority increased to match the new apt-listchanges. In the discussion in #758234, there is a consensus that it makes no sense to raise the priority of dependency packages since all the tools involved can already resolve the dependencies without requiring the priorities to be appropriately set.¹ Julian, as a python-apt maintainer, would you like to raise the appropriate bug against ftp.debian.org or are you happy for me to do this? override: python-apt:python/optional cheers Stuart ① What remains to have priority inversion permitted (encouraged!) by Policy is a suitable patch; since Policy documents standard practice and it is already standard practice to permit priority inversion for dependencies, there's no reason to raise the priority of python3-apt. -- Stuart Prescotthttp://www.nanonanonano.net/ stu...@nanonanonano.net Debian Developer http://www.debian.org/ stu...@debian.org GPG fingerprint90E2 D2C1 AD14 6A1B 7EBB 891D BBC1 7EBB 1396 F2F7
Re: Python 2 in the default installation -- progress made!
Dear -boot & -cd, In re-reading #758234, I noticed a request that -boot and -cd be kept up to speed with priority changes that might have an impact on the installer. In the thread starting at https://lists.debian.org/debian-python/2016/12/msg00070.html we have been looking at whether Python 2 can finally be kicked out of the Standard task with only Python 3 being installed rather than both being installed as is currently the case. The remaining binary (source) packages that need their priorities changed are: * python (python-defaults) * python2.7 (python2.7) * python-apt (python-apt) * python-gpg (gpgme1.0) The relevant maintainers seem to be happy with these changes. (Upcoming python-defaults and python2.7 uploads will change the source packages; python- apt and python-gpg already have 'optional' within the source package). Bugs asking the ftp team to change the overrides are ready to be filed. Additionally, changed dependencies are needed in: * logrotate (Recommends: mailx → bsd-mailx | mailx), #849743 Your comments on (and hopefully assent to) these changes would be welcome. cheers Stuart (Please CC me in replies) -- Stuart Prescotthttp://www.nanonanonano.net/ stu...@nanonanonano.net Debian Developer http://www.debian.org/ stu...@debian.org GPG fingerprint90E2 D2C1 AD14 6A1B 7EBB 891D BBC1 7EBB 1396 F2F7