Re: Dealing with flit -- a simplified packaging of python modules

2015-09-24 Thread Paul Wise
On Sun, Sep 20, 2015 at 12:47 PM, Thomas Kluyver wrote:

> However, my hope in that sentence was that other packaging will come not
> to rely on Python sdists containing a setup.py file. Using sdists for
> Debian packaging is already somewhat dubious, because they can contain
> generated and bundled files (we do both for Jupyter Notebook sdists).

Source tarballs containing generated/bundled files is a bug that
should be fixed.

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bye,
pabs

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Re: Dealing with flit -- a simplified packaging of python modules

2015-09-24 Thread Thomas Kluyver
On Thu, Sep 24, 2015, at 03:30 AM, Paul Wise wrote:
> Source tarballs containing generated/bundled files is a bug that
> should be fixed.

That's my point ;-). From our upstream point of view, it's not a bug
that the distributions we put on PyPI contain generated/bundled files -
we do it that way deliberately, so that end users can install without
needing Javascript developer tools to build those files. If you want a
pure source tarball without generated files, that's available from
Github.

Thomas



Re: Bug#798999: transition: python3.5 supported

2015-09-24 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Wed, 16 Sep 2015 17:43:53 -0400 Scott Kitterman  
wrote:
> On Wednesday, September 16, 2015 10:23:19 PM Jonathan Wiltshire wrote:
> > > I would appreciate it if you would go ahead and publish it and then with
> > > your permission, I'll coordinate binNMUs as I've done in the past for
> > > python transitions.
> > 
> > Does https://release.debian.org/transitions/html/python3.5.html look about
> > right? I adjusted the build-depend slightly.
> 
> Yes.  It looks good.  Thanks.
> 
> > There's quite some tangling with g++ stuff at the moment so please hold
> > tight for now. Is it feasible to do rebuild tests in experimental ahead of
> > time?
> 
> I'm currently focusing on the packages that show up as neither good nor bad 
> as they are almost inevitably buggy.  
> 
> Many of the packages that show up as being tangled with g++ actually aren't 
> since they've already been rebuilt and transitioned to testing.  I will, of 
> course, hold off and try and get a better picture of how much overlap there 
> really is.

I've now reviewed the potential for entanglement between doing this python3.5 
transition and the ongoing gcc5 transition.

I reviewed the packages listed on the transition tracker as being affected by 
both transitions, reduced the list down to the packages that have not already 
been explicitly transitioned to a v5 or rebuilt for the transition and then 
examined and/or rebuilt the rest.  None of the remaining packages [1] were 
listed on the titanpad [2] as needing transition nor did rebuilding them show 
any problems that would indicate a delay to the transition nor any gcc5 
transition related issues with the exceptions of pandas and uwsgi, which are 
unbuildable for other reasons [3][4].

I have the python3-defaults upload to enable python3.5 as a supported python3 
version prepared and ready to upload when I get an ack from the release team.

I think we are ready to start.

Scott K

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[1] gyoto, libkdtree++, liblinear, matplotlib, pandas, pykde4, pymia, 
pysubnettree, python-espeak, pyviennacl, uwsgi
[2] https://titanpad.com/UtA5km2wW6
[3] #790024, #790924, and #790925
[4] #788957

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Re: Packaging the Jupyter project suite

2015-09-24 Thread Julien Puydt

Hi,

Le 18/09/2015 17:49, Julien Puydt a écrit :

I would like to package the Jupyter suite of software (ex-IPython).


Someone asked on IRC if Jupyter was a fork of IPython : no, it's the 
same upstream, who broke it (or modularized it if you prefer) into 
chunks, under the "Jupyter project" umbrella.



Of course, that makes quite a few packages to prepare, with a big
dependency graph. I already sent a few ITP (pickleshare, traitlets), a
few RFS (path.py), some are in NEW (ipython-genutils)...


There is also something else to discuss since it used to be only IPython 
: how to transition.


Indeed, the current src:ipython package provides several binary 
packages: ipython (shell for Python 2), ipython3 (shell for Python 3), 
ipython-qtconsole (Qt shell for Python 2), ipython3-qtconsole (Qt shell 
for Python 3), ipython-notebook-common (data for the HTML IPython 
notebook), ipython-notebook (HTML IPython notebook for Python 2), 
ipython3-notebook (HTML IPython notebook for Python 3) and ipython-doc 
(documentation).


But now, IPython upstream contains (afaik) what used to be in ipython 
and ipython3. There is an upstream qtconsole which should correspond to 
ipython-qtconsole and ipython3-qtconsole. And there is an upstream 
notebook which should correspond to ipython-notebook-common, 
ipython-notebook and ipython3-notebook.


So, how does one do so users of those packages get the future new ones 
(I'm sure a transition bug to release.debian.org will be needed)? What 
does one do to the bugs in the current src:ipython package?


Snark on #debian-python

PS: I still have a path.py stuck in NEW, and traitlets and testpath in RFS.