Re: How to help with sphinx 1.2?

2013-09-13 Thread Nikolaus Rath
Dmitry Shachnev  writes:
> Hi Nikolaus,
>
> On Thu, Sep 12, 2013 at 11:43 PM, Nikolaus Rath  wrote:
>> Hello,
>>
>> Is there a way for me to help getting Sphinx 1.2 into unstable?
>>
>> I looked at the open bugs, but didn't find anything that seemed to block
>> an upload..
>
> Except for the fact it has not been released yet.

So that is the showstopper? I thought I've seen other Debian packages
based on development releases, so I thought maybe b1 would have a chance
of making it out of experimental...

Best,
Nikolaus


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Please install /usr/bin/python2

2013-09-13 Thread Kerrick Staley
Please install /usr/bin/python2 as part of the default Debian install. It
still doesn't exist on 7.1, which prevents scripts with a shebang of
#!/usr/bin/python2 from running.

Note that the following matters (which have derailed previous threads on
this topic) are irrelevant to this request:
- whether Debian scripts should switch to /usr/bin/python2 instead of
/usr/bin/python
- whether /usr/bin/python should currently be Python 3
- whether /usr/bin/python should ever be Python 3
- whether Python 2 will ever be deprecated
- whether Arch switching /usr/bin/python to Python 3 was a bad idea
- whether Arch is stupid

Regardless of any of the above, adding /usr/bin/python2 is definitely a
Good Thing and will Benefit Users, because there are an increasing number
of scripts in the wild using #!/usr/bin/python2. It's also the Upstream
Recommendation.

- Kerrick


Re: Please install /usr/bin/python2

2013-09-13 Thread Scott Kitterman


Kerrick Staley  wrote:
>Please install /usr/bin/python2 as part of the default Debian install.
>It
>still doesn't exist on 7.1, which prevents scripts with a shebang of
>#!/usr/bin/python2 from running.
>
>Note that the following matters (which have derailed previous threads
>on
>this topic) are irrelevant to this request:
>- whether Debian scripts should switch to /usr/bin/python2 instead of
>/usr/bin/python
>- whether /usr/bin/python should currently be Python 3
>- whether /usr/bin/python should ever be Python 3
>- whether Python 2 will ever be deprecated
>- whether Arch switching /usr/bin/python to Python 3 was a bad idea
>- whether Arch is stupid
>
>Regardless of any of the above, adding /usr/bin/python2 is definitely a
>Good Thing and will Benefit Users, because there are an increasing
>number
>of scripts in the wild using #!/usr/bin/python2. It's also the Upstream
>Recommendation.

It's an accident it wasn't provided in wheezy, but I don't think it's the kind 
of bug that's suitable for a post-release fix.  It's already in Testing, so 
there's not more to do now. 

There are many, many systems from many different distributions that don't have 
/usr/bin/python2.  Script authors that want their work to be portable shouldn't 
assume it exists.  That's true independent of if we fix the in Wheezy or not.

Scott K


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