Re: Request for Review - Nuitka the Python compiler
Hi, On Sat, Nov 12, 2011 at 10:50:13PM +0100, Jakub Wilk wrote: > * Paul Boddie , 2011-11-12, 15:08: > >>c) I renamed "Nuitka.py" to a "nuitka" binary. I am keeping the > >>drop-in replacement as "Python" though. > >I don't think it's wise to call it "Python", > > Agreed, this is bad idea. +1 What's wrong with calling nuitka, nuitka ? I do not remember PyPy, Stackless, Jython, IronPython or any other alternative Python interpreters trying to install their executable under the name /usr/bin/python, so why would you want to do it in this case ? PS: Thank you for working on Nuitka, it looks really interesting. -- Nicolas Chauvat logilab.fr - services en informatique scientifique et gestion de connaissances -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-python-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/2015172854.gd3...@volans.logilab.fr
Re: Request for Review - Nuitka the Python compiler
Hello Nicolas, you wrote: On Sat, Nov 12, 2011 at 10:50:13PM +0100, Jakub Wilk wrote: * Paul Boddie, 2011-11-12, 15:08: c) I renamed "Nuitka.py" to a "nuitka" binary. I am keeping the drop-in replacement as "Python" though. I don't think it's wise to call it "Python", Agreed, this is bad idea. +1 What's wrong with calling nuitka, nuitka ? I do not remember PyPy, Stackless, Jython, IronPython or any other alternative Python interpreters trying to install their executable under the name /usr/bin/python, so why would you want to do it in this case ? For the record, the package installs "/usr/bin/Python" which uses "/usr/bin/python" in its "#!" line. I just got accustomed to it, you know like when you develop something over years, and cannot think of anything else. The "/usr/bin/nuitka" binary is not that one, "Python" is intended to be a "behave alike python just be faster in a cached way". And "nuitka" shall be the "do one of many things" binary. I might remove it from the Debian package, or put it to "/usr/share/doc/nuitka/examples" and then mention it in a "README.Debian". The "Python" does not accept "python" alike options anyway yet, it's not finished if you wish. I absolutely don't want "Python" to block the entry of "nuitka" to Debian proper. Oh collective Debian-Python Brainpower, tell me a good name but "nuitka" for said binary. :-) PS: Thank you for working on Nuitka, it looks really interesting. Thanks a lot too. Kay -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-python-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4ec2eeec.6020...@gmx.de
Request for Review: Shedskin (a Python-to-C++ compiler)
Hello, As I mentioned in the thread concerning Nuitka, I've been trying for a while to get Shedskin packaged for Debian, and I've sent the occasional RFS to the Mentors list, but I'd be interested to know if anyone is interested in taking this work further and/or sponsoring it. Here's the Mentors link: http://mentors.debian.net/package/shedskin And here's a link to the packaging itself: http://hgweb.boddie.org.uk/shedskin-packaging/ Julian Taylor and Jakub Wilk have been very helpful in giving feedback and correcting my many packaging mistakes. D Haley also gave many suggestions in response to the ITP: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=564533 Although I don't really use Shedskin myself - I have too many other projects currently active, but have been meaning to use it a bit more - the software has made substantial progress towards being a widely applicable solution and can compile non-trivial programs, producing significant speed-ups. One fairly impressive example (that cannot unfortunately be distributed with Debian) is a Commodore 64 emulator: http://shed-skin.blogspot.com/2011/06/shed-skin-08-programming-language.html There are also indications that Shedskin is occupying a firm place in the range of solutions employed to increase the performance of Python-based software systems: http://ianozsvald.com/2011/07/25/high-performance-python-tutorial-v0-2-from-europython-2011/ I intend to maintain the package as long as is necessary, although I would also be prepared to let a motivated Debian developer take over the responsibility for maintenance. My aim is primarily to make the inclusion of Shedskin into Debian as little work as possible for others. Regards, Paul -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-python-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20160008.22254.p...@boddie.org.uk
Re: Request for Review - Nuitka the Python compiler
Hello, On Tue, Nov 15, 2011 at 11:59:56PM +0100, Kay Hayen wrote: > Oh collective Debian-Python Brainpower, tell me a good name but > "nuitka" for said binary. :-) Reading the doc I understand that "Python" == "Nuitka.py --execute". Am I correct ? Maybe Python + nuitka --> nuitka + nuitka-ctl OrPython + nuitka --> pynuitka + nuitka OrPython + nuitka --> nuitka + "nuitka compiler" OrPython + nuitka --> nython + nuitka Or something better than the above :) -- Nicolas Chauvat logilab.fr - services en informatique scientifique et gestion de connaissances -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-python-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/2015233524.ga27...@volans.logilab.fr
Re: Request for Review - Nuitka the Python compiler
Hello Nicolas, On Tue, Nov 15, 2011 at 11:59:56PM +0100, Kay Hayen wrote: Oh collective Debian-Python Brainpower, tell me a good name but "nuitka" for said binary. :-) Reading the doc I understand that "Python" == "Nuitka.py --execute". Am I correct ? It's "--exe" and "--exectute", but yes, it executes automatically, and the missing feature is to e.g. support "-u" and other options that the normal "python" has. Maybe Python + nuitka --> nuitka + nuitka-ctl OrPython + nuitka --> pynuitka + nuitka OrPython + nuitka --> nuitka + "nuitka compiler" OrPython + nuitka --> nython + nuitka Or something better than the above :) I like "nython" somewhat. I had previously thought of "python.nuitka", but that kind of breaks things that expect only version suffixes, I would expect it to not be acceptable. If it's not, I would love it. Hm, what about "nuitka-python" as a binary name of what is now Python, is that OK? It seems the readable variant. Yours, Kay -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-python-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4ec2fa7e.9070...@gmx.de
Re: Request for Review - Nuitka the Python compiler
On 15 November 2011 23:49, Kay Hayen wrote: > Hm, what about "nuitka-python" as a binary name of what is now Python, is > that OK? It seems the readable variant. > nuitka-python is what I'd call it, from your description. I'm not actually a Debian packager, though. Thomas
