Re: list of package for python_support -> dh_python2 ?
On Sat, 2011-06-11 at 20:11 -0400, Yaroslav Halchenko wrote: > On Fri, 10 Jun 2011, Barry Warsaw wrote: > > >Do what you (plural) want, I don't care. > > Personally, I want one helper. The consistency will make life much easier > > for > > new packagers, for documentation, and for helping focus the community on > > fixing bugs, adding features, and improving the state of the art. > > YEAP -- one mighty helper would be better than many less mighty. Even: > one mighty helper would be better than 2 mighty, because we hate > duplication and trying to reduce our maintenance effort. But ATM, > is there any source/documentation which could give me a clear answer why > pysupport sucks and dh_python2 rules (or why should I care about > python_support -> dh_python2)? Barry has addressed this in a later mail (on a subthread). Can you respond, just so that the idea gets another +1. > I am asking because I have a few packages which use pysupport now and it > seems to work (so it is the mighty for me)... not sure if I am > ready to invest time into doing a conversion which has some plausible > benefits which I could not sense right away. You don't have to do the conversion yourself. You need just accept patches to do so. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-python-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1307870751.14381.4.camel@debian
Re: list of package for python_support -> dh_python2 ?
OoO En ce milieu de nuit étoilée du dimanche 12 juin 2011, vers 04:10, Barry Warsaw disait : >> It would help some of us (at least me) if someone could explain what the >> story behind python-support and dh-python2 is. It seems that everything >> was dealed in private. From my point of view, dh-python2 is here only >> because python-central could not be deprecated by its author in favor of >> python-support for political reasons. That does not help to adopt it. > The main reason why we're favoring dh_python2 is because, to the extent > possible with Python 2[*], everything is in the package. Because pyc files > cannot be shared across Python versions, and yet in almost every case the > source code can, the Python 2 helpers create symlinks for the py files from a > shared directory into a version-specific directory, because Python will put > the pyc files next to the py files. > Unlike the other helpers, dh_python2 includes the symlinks in the package, so > in most cases, packages which use dh_python2 will come with everything they > need instead of being created at installation time, which is fragile. (py > files are still and always byte-compiled upon installation, but that's > fine). Well, I suppose that a whole new helper was not written just for that. However, I have seen in #629154 that Josselin is also fading out python-support. I don't know if he is happy with this but I take it as some sort of implicit acknowledgment of dh_python2. Therefore, +1 for only one helper in Wheezy. -- Vincent Bernat ☯ http://www.luffy.cx Use self-identifying input. Allow defaults. Echo both on output. - The Elements of Programming Style (Kernighan & Plauger) pgpNdPjRc9SRS.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Looking for sponsor: python-llfuse
OoO En cette soirée bien amorcée du samedi 11 juin 2011, vers 22:01, Nikolaus Rath disait : >>> * URL : http://code.google.com/p/python-llfuse/ >>> * License : LGPL >>> * Section : python >> >> [...] >> >>> I would also be happy to join the python team and have this package team >>> maintained. Would that be preferred? My alioth login is >>> nikratio-guest. >> >> I can sponsor you. Please join the team. Piotr, could you add Nikolaus >> to the team? > Cool, thanks! So I'll change debian/control to > Maintainer: Debian Python Team > Uploader: Nikolaus Rath Or Maintainer: Nikolaus, Uploader: DPMT. And DPMT is: Debian Python Modules Team > and then upload the package with svn-inject. Is there anything else I > need to do? I still need to review the package. Also ensure that you applied what Jakub said in debian-mentors@. -- Vincent Bernat ☯ http://www.luffy.cx Use statement labels that mean something. - The Elements of Programming Style (Kernighan & Plauger) pgpVh9VEtPxzN.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: list of package for python_support -> dh_python2 ?
On Sun, 12 Jun 2011, Tshepang Lekhonkhobe wrote: > > I am asking because I have a few packages which use pysupport now and it > > seems to work (so it is the mighty for me)... not sure if I am > > ready to invest time into doing a conversion which has some plausible > > benefits which I could not sense right away. > You don't have to do the conversion yourself. You need just accept > patches to do so. and take care about making them working starting at least from squeeze and some LTS of ubuntu so I could painlessly provide backports for our neuro.debian.net . Ha -- squeeze seems to have the same version of dh_python2 as my laptop, good. How far do you think it would be compatible back with ubuntu releases so backporting would be painless? -- =--= Keep in touch www.onerussian.com Yaroslav Halchenko www.ohloh.net/accounts/yarikoptic -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-python-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20110612142451.gw17...@onerussian.com
Re: list of package for python_support -> dh_python2 ?
On Sunday, June 12, 2011 10:24:51 AM Yaroslav Halchenko wrote: > On Sun, 12 Jun 2011, Tshepang Lekhonkhobe wrote: > > > I am asking because I have a few packages which use pysupport now and > > > it seems to work (so it is the mighty for me)... not sure if I am > > > ready to invest time into doing a conversion which has some plausible > > > benefits which I could not sense right away. > > > > You don't have to do the conversion yourself. You need just accept > > patches to do so. > > and take care about making them working starting at least from squeeze > and some LTS of ubuntu so I could painlessly provide backports for our > neuro.debian.net . Ha -- squeeze seems to have the same version of > dh_python2 as my laptop, good. How far do you think it would be > compatible back with ubuntu releases so backporting would be painless? Backporting to Ubuntu 11.04 (Natty) and 10.10 (Maverick) should be similar. Ubuntu 10.04 (Lucid), the latest LTS release, does not have dh_python2, but a backport is being worked on so it should be easy enough to backport to soon. Scott K -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-python-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/201106121418.59908.deb...@kitterman.com
Re: Looking for sponsor: python-llfuse
Vincent Bernat writes: > OoO En cette soirée bien amorcée du samedi 11 juin 2011, vers 22:01, > Nikolaus Rath disait : > * URL : http://code.google.com/p/python-llfuse/ * License : LGPL * Section : python >>> >>> [...] >>> I would also be happy to join the python team and have this package team maintained. Would that be preferred? My alioth login is nikratio-guest. >>> >>> I can sponsor you. Please join the team. Piotr, could you add Nikolaus >>> to the team? > >> Cool, thanks! So I'll change debian/control to > >> Maintainer: Debian Python Team >> Uploader: Nikolaus Rath > > Or Maintainer: Nikolaus, Uploader: DPMT. And DPMT is: > Debian Python Modules Team Done. Package is in the DPMT SVN now. >> and then upload the package with svn-inject. Is there anything else I >> need to do? > > I still need to review the package. Also ensure that you applied what > Jakub said in debian-mentors@. The .c files are now regenerated in debian/rules. I am not regenerating the documentation yet. I understood that this is nice to have but not required, so I wanted to wait until the Sphinx 1.1 hits the archive. When that has happened, it's just a matter of uncommenting one line in debian/rules. Best, -Nikolaus -- »Time flies like an arrow, fruit flies like a Banana.« PGP fingerprint: 5B93 61F8 4EA2 E279 ABF6 02CF A9AD B7F8 AE4E 425C -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-python-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/87fwnehcs8@vostro.rath.org
