Re: Release Team meeting minutes - 2005-06-18
* John Goerzen ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [050620 05:47]: > Not everyone can be in an IRC discussion. There are pesky things like > sleep, work, and Real Life that mean that it's not possible for > everyone to participate in a real-time discussion. I think IRC meetings are fine for teams like the release team (where we choose an appropriate time at least for the team members). Of course, if it were me to do the python policy discussion (but as I said, I think that's more the python team's call), I think mail would be more appropriate, and perhaps - if there are hairy issues - one meeting about the hairy issues on IRC. But didn't we want to postpone that discussion? :) Cheers, Andi -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Release Team meeting minutes - 2005-06-18
Andi, Matthias, I'd like to apologise for being unnecessarily aggressive yesterday. I guess I'm becoming too suspicious against many developers as a result of the behaviour of only a very few ones. I hope it won't serve as an excuse for even less discussion that what we have currently. I happen to prefer when discussions heat up and things get flattened thereafter, than when nothing is said. Regards, -- .''`. Josselin Mouette/\./\ : :' : [EMAIL PROTECTED] `. `'[EMAIL PROTECTED] `- Debian GNU/Linux -- The power of freedom signature.asc Description: Ceci est une partie de message numériquement signée
Re: Release Team meeting minutes - 2005-06-18
On Mon, Jun 20, 2005 at 10:03:05AM +0200, Andreas Barth wrote: > * John Goerzen ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [050620 05:47]: > > Not everyone can be in an IRC discussion. There are pesky things like > > sleep, work, and Real Life that mean that it's not possible for > > everyone to participate in a real-time discussion. > > I think IRC meetings are fine for teams like the release team (where we > choose an appropriate time at least for the team members). Of course, if I'm not saying otherwise. I'm just saying that full and accurate meetings, or at least IRC logs, ought to be posted. Saying "oh, our decisions were controversial, therefore we won't tell anyone" only makes the legendary communication problems within Debian worse. -- John -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Release Team meeting minutes - 2005-06-18
On Mon, 2005-06-20 at 04:23, Josselin Mouette wrote: > Andi, Matthias, > > I'd like to apologise for being unnecessarily aggressive yesterday. I > guess I'm becoming too suspicious against many developers as a result of > the behaviour of only a very few ones. > > I hope it won't serve as an excuse for even less discussion that what we > have currently. I happen to prefer when discussions heat up and things > get flattened thereafter, than when nothing is said. It sounds like this was a similar to a case of "If you feel like you are out of the loop and things are being done behind your back, it usually means there is no loop, and nothing is getting done at all" :-) See http://minkirri.apana.org.au/Wiki/OrganisationTips It also shows how important it is for people to feel informed... even if there is nothing to inform them about. -- Donovan Baarda <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]