Python and Emacs
Hi, I'm sorry, this may be a bit off topic but I don't really know where I can post this question. I'm a bit annoyed with Emacs when editing Python programs because Emacs always replaces TABs with spaces ; this wouldn't bother me if Emacs was the only editor in the world. But when you share programs with others, it is better to have real TABs instead of spaces. I know about the "C-q TAB" but I don't want to use it every time I want automatic indentation. Does anyone know how to achieve this? Thanks in advance. -- Jérôme Marant http://marant.org -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Python and Emacs
On Tue, 2002-05-21 at 15:27, Jérôme Marant wrote: [snip] > I'm a bit annoyed with Emacs when editing Python programs because > Emacs always replaces TABs with spaces ; this wouldn't bother me if > Emacs was the only editor in the world. But when you share programs > with others, it is better to have real TABs instead of spaces. This is amusing: I think exactly the opposite, since I indent every 4 columns, and if \t were set to 4, then when less'ing the file, it would look differently that it does in the editor... -- +-+ | Ron Johnson, Jr.Home: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | Jefferson, LA USA http://ronandheather.dhs.org:81 | | | | "I have created a government of whirled peas..."| | Maharishi Mahesh Yogi, 12-May-2002, | ! CNN, Larry King Live | +-+ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Python and Emacs
Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Tue, 2002-05-21 at 15:27, Jérôme Marant wrote: > [snip] >> I'm a bit annoyed with Emacs when editing Python programs because >> Emacs always replaces TABs with spaces ; this wouldn't bother me if >> Emacs was the only editor in the world. But when you share programs >> with others, it is better to have real TABs instead of spaces. > > This is amusing: I think exactly the opposite, since I indent > every 4 columns, and if \t were set to 4, then when less'ing > the file, it would look differently that it does in the editor... That's right but Emacs should be able to adapt. As I said, I would be happy to choose any of both, if I could ... Do you have a solution? -- Jérôme Marant http://marant.org -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Python and Emacs
On Tue, 2002-05-21 at 16:09, Jérôme Marant wrote: > Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > On Tue, 2002-05-21 at 15:27, Jérôme Marant wrote: > > [snip] > >> I'm a bit annoyed with Emacs when editing Python programs because > >> Emacs always replaces TABs with spaces ; this wouldn't bother me if > >> Emacs was the only editor in the world. But when you share programs > >> with others, it is better to have real TABs instead of spaces. > > > > This is amusing: I think exactly the opposite, since I indent > > every 4 columns, and if \t were set to 4, then when less'ing > > the file, it would look differently that it does in the editor... > > That's right but Emacs should be able to adapt. As I said, I > would be happy to choose any of both, if I could ... > > Do you have a solution? Yeah: use vim! However, if you insist on using emacsOS, sorry, can't help... -- +-+ | Ron Johnson, Jr.Home: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | Jefferson, LA USA http://ronandheather.dhs.org:81 | | | | "I have created a government of whirled peas..."| | Maharishi Mahesh Yogi, 12-May-2002, | ! CNN, Larry King Live | +-+ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Python and Emacs
On May 21, Jérôme Marant wrote: > I'm sorry, this may be a bit off topic but I don't really know > where I can post this question. > > I'm a bit annoyed with Emacs when editing Python programs because > Emacs always replaces TABs with spaces ; this wouldn't bother me if > Emacs was the only editor in the world. But when you share programs > with others, it is better to have real TABs instead of spaces. > I know about the "C-q TAB" but I don't want to use it every time > I want automatic indentation. > > Does anyone know how to achieve this? When you're done editing... C-x h M-x tabify Of course, we all know that using tabs in Python code is Evil. :-) Chris -- Chris Lawrence <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> - http://www.lordsutch.com/chris/ Instructor and Ph.D. Candidate, Political Science, Univ. of Mississippi 208 Deupree Hall - 662-915-5765 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Python and Emacs
Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> Do you have a solution? > > Yeah: use vim! However, if you insist on using emacsOS, sorry, > can't help... Using Vim? Emacs modes are not just syntax highlightings you know ;-) I would call it a functional regression :-) You're a troll! Cheers, -- Jérôme Marant http://marant.org -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Python and Emacs
Il mar, 2002-05-21 alle 22:27, Jérôme Marant ha scritto: > > Hi, > > I'm sorry, this may be a bit off topic but I don't really know > where I can post this question. > > I'm a bit annoyed with Emacs when editing Python programs because > Emacs always replaces TABs with spaces ; this wouldn't bother me if > Emacs was the only editor in the world. But when you share programs > with others, it is better to have real TABs instead of spaces. > I know about the "C-q TAB" but I don't want to use it every time > I want automatic indentation. > > Does anyone know how to achieve this? from the emacs manual: Emacs normally uses both tabs and spaces to indent lines. If you prefer, all indentation can be made from spaces only. To request this, set `indent-tabs-mode' to `nil'. This is a per-buffer variable, so altering the variable affects only the current buffer, but there is a default value which you can change as well. *Note Locals::. There are also commands to convert tabs to spaces or vice versa, always preserving the columns of all nonblank text. `M-x tabify' scans the region for sequences of spaces, and converts sequences of at least three spaces to tabs if that can be done without changing indentation. `M-x untabify' changes all tabs in the region to appropriate numbers of spaces. -- Federico Di Gregorio Debian GNU/Linux Developer & Italian Press Contact[EMAIL PROTECTED] INIT.D Developer [EMAIL PROTECTED] God is real. Unless declared integer. -- Anonymous FORTRAN programmer signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: Python and Emacs
Chris Lawrence <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On May 21, Jérôme Marant wrote: >> I'm sorry, this may be a bit off topic but I don't really know >> where I can post this question. >> >> I'm a bit annoyed with Emacs when editing Python programs because >> Emacs always replaces TABs with spaces ; this wouldn't bother me if >> Emacs was the only editor in the world. But when you share programs >> with others, it is better to have real TABs instead of spaces. >> I know about the "C-q TAB" but I don't want to use it every time >> I want automatic indentation. >> >> Does anyone know how to achieve this? > > When you're done editing... > > C-x h > M-x tabify Sounds nice to me ;-) Thanks. > Of course, we all know that using tabs in Python code is Evil. :-) Sure. Now, you make me think that sharing code with Vimers is Evil too. I wouldn't need such a trick ;-) Cheers, -- Jérôme Marant http://marant.org -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Python and Emacs
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jérôme Marant) wrote: > Hi, Hi, > I'm sorry, this may be a bit off topic but I don't really know > where I can post this question. fr.comp.applications.emacs would be quite OK. ;-) > I'm a bit annoyed with Emacs when editing Python programs because > Emacs always replaces TABs with spaces ; this wouldn't bother me if > Emacs was the only editor in the world. But when you share programs > with others, it is better to have real TABs instead of spaces. > I know about the "C-q TAB" but I don't want to use it every time > I want automatic indentation. > > Does anyone know how to achieve this? I *hate* tabs in files, but here it goes... (add-hook 'python-mode-hook #'(lambda () (local-set-key "\t" #'(lambda () (interactive) (insert "\t") Please, don't spread this two much... nice Python code with ugly tabs makes me depressed. :) -- Florent -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Python and Emacs
Federico Di Gregorio <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> Does anyone know how to achieve this? > > from the emacs manual: > >Emacs normally uses both tabs and spaces to indent lines. If you > prefer, all indentation can be made from spaces only. To request this, > set `indent-tabs-mode' to `nil'. This is a per-buffer variable, so > altering the variable affects only the current buffer, but there is a > default value which you can change as well. *Note Locals::. Hmm. I recall now that I can use emacs variables in comments (!) > >There are also commands to convert tabs to spaces or vice versa, > always preserving the columns of all nonblank text. `M-x tabify' scans > the region for sequences of spaces, and converts sequences of at least > three spaces to tabs if that can be done without changing indentation. > `M-x untabify' changes all tabs in the region to appropriate numbers of > spaces. Thx. Cheers, -- Jérôme Marant http://marant.org -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Python and Emacs
Florent Rougon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jérôme Marant) wrote: > >> Hi, > > Hi, > >> I'm sorry, this may be a bit off topic but I don't really know >> where I can post this question. > > fr.comp.applications.emacs would be quite OK. ;-) Sorry, I'm not using Usenet at all. > >> I'm a bit annoyed with Emacs when editing Python programs because >> Emacs always replaces TABs with spaces ; this wouldn't bother me if >> Emacs was the only editor in the world. But when you share programs >> with others, it is better to have real TABs instead of spaces. >> I know about the "C-q TAB" but I don't want to use it every time >> I want automatic indentation. >> >> Does anyone know how to achieve this? > > I *hate* tabs in files, but here it goes... I don't really care as long as Emacs can handle it transparently. > (add-hook 'python-mode-hook #'(lambda () > (local-set-key "\t" >#'(lambda () >(interactive) >(insert "\t") > > Please, don't spread this two much... nice Python code with ugly tabs > makes me depressed. :) This solution looks nice too compared to what was proposed here previously. Thanks. Cheers, -- Jérôme Marant http://marant.org -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
