Re: Experimental Python 1.5.2c1 packages available

1999-04-14 Thread Gregor Hoffleit
On Tue, Apr 13, 1999 at 09:05:36AM -0700, Mike Orr wrote:
> On Tue, Apr 13, 1999 at 01:35:02PM +0200, Gregor Hoffleit wrote:
> > I have put together a set of experimental Python 1.5.2c1 packages. To use 
> > them with apt, try the following line:
> > 
> >   deb http://master.debian.org/~flight/python ./
> 
> Nope, for some reason dselect still thinks 1.5.1.999b2-1 is the current
> version.  My /etc/apt/sources.list looks like:

Aaargh. Make that

  http://www.debian.org/~flight/python/

resp. (for apt access)

  deb http://www.debian.org/~flight/python ./

Sorry for the inconveniences!

Gregor



Re: Experimental Python 1.5.2c1 packages available

1999-04-14 Thread Milan Zamazal
> "LMC" == Lorenzo M Catucci <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

LMC> I seem to remember there is now a complete info set, which I
LMC> sure would like to install for use within {x,}emacs, but I
LMC> don't know how many of debian/python users would find a need
LMC> for it.

I don't think Python is much usable without info documentation. :-)
It should be definitely included somewhere.

Milan Zamazal

-- 
"Having GNU Emacs is like having a dragon's cave of treasures."
Robert J. Chassell



Re: Experimental Python 1.5.2c1 packages available

1999-04-14 Thread Paul Stevens

> I seem to remember there is now a complete info set, which I sure
> would like to install for use within {x,}emacs, but I don't know how
> many of debian/python users would find a need for it.

I do. Please do include info docs.

-- 
  
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Re: Experimental Python 1.5.2c1 packages available

1999-04-14 Thread Gregor Hoffleit
On Wed, Apr 14, 1999 at 09:15:53AM +0200, Paul Stevens wrote:
> 
> > I seem to remember there is now a complete info set, which I sure
> > would like to install for use within {x,}emacs, but I don't know how
> > many of debian/python users would find a need for it.
> 
> I do. Please do include info docs.

I will.

Earlier python-doc packages already included info docs, but they had
been unavailable for 1.5.1, therefore they aren't included currently.

The docs are quite big (700k resp. 450k for html and info
gzipped). Is there support for splitting them in separate packages ?
Then, is there also a need for postscript resp. pdf packages ?

Gregor



Re: Experimental Python 1.5.2c1 packages available

1999-04-14 Thread Lorenzo M. Catucci


On Wed, 14 Apr 1999, Gregor Hoffleit wrote:
>
> > I do. Please do include info docs.
> 
> I will.
> 
> The docs are quite big (700k resp. 450k for html and info
> gzipped). Is there support for splitting them in separate packages ?
> Then, is there also a need for postscript resp. pdf packages ?
> 
IMHO, info and html should be regarded as being in the same footing as the
main information gathering means (but I sure understand I'm a bit biased,
since I like info much more than the mean python programmer). As for
ps/pdf, I won't tell you I feel a real need (after all, I printed my copy
of python docs this summer, at 1.5.2 alpha time, and I won't reprint them
at least until 1.6), but I think they might be useful for first time
python programmers, and I think both of us would like making their life
simpler... I stand by my earlier suggestion of a couple of
doc-pdf-{a4,letter} or doc-ps-{a4,letter}, but I'm unable to tell which
is best. Votes, please!

l.



Re: Experimental Python 1.5.2c1 packages available

1999-04-14 Thread Mike Orr
On Wed, Apr 14, 1999 at 04:07:29PM +0200, Gregor Hoffleit wrote:
> The docs are quite big (700k resp. 450k for html and info
> gzipped). Is there support for splitting them in separate packages ?
> Then, is there also a need for postscript resp. pdf packages ?

I just grab the ps files off www.python.org whenever I want to 
print it.  I don't use info or pdf unless it's the only choice
available.  I'm worried about package proliferation.  It's already
impossible to do "dpkg -l python\*" without getting more than a
screenful.  My net connection is fast enough that 700K + 450K is
not a concern.  However, if enough people need these formats and
have slow or expensive connections, then we should provide them.

But for ps, it doesn't seem necessary.  Just explain in 
README.debian where to download them from and how to print them.
Most people will delete the files after printing them anyway, and
installing and uninstalling a package rather than just deleting
five files is rather more work.

-- 
-Mike Orr, [EMAIL PROTECTED]



info docs (was Re: Experimental Python 1.5.2c1 packages available)

1999-04-14 Thread Joe Block
Paul Stevens wrote:
> 
> > I seem to remember there is now a complete info set, which I sure
> > would like to install for use within {x,}emacs, but I don't know how
> > many of debian/python users would find a need for it.
> 
> I do. Please do include info docs.

How about making the info docs a seperate package?  That way, if you
didn't install emacs you don't have to get the info docs - if disk is so
tight you don't want emacs you probably don't want info docs.

-- 
Joe Block <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

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"Here's a nickel, kid.  Get yourself a better computer" - Dilbert