Short tribute video in honor of Ian Murdock in FOSDEM
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 Dear all We, the Debian Publicity team, are trying to prepare a short tribute video in honour of Ian Murdock to be screened at FOSDEM[1] (Free and Open Source Software Developers' European Meeting), that will take place in Brusels next January 30-31. Valessio Brito and yours truly have offered time to prepare it. The video would be released with the same license as the Debian website[2] if possible, or in any other free license. If you have any material (photos, audio, video) that you own (or it's free licensed) and we could use in the video, it would be great if you can share it. Please, commit your files with their license before Friday 22 January 2016 12:00 UTC to this git repo: https://anonscm.debian.org/cgit/publicity/ian-media.git This repository is world readable and only writable for all Debian Developers (DD). if you're not a DD, please, ask a DD to commit your files for you or join #debian-publicity and ask us for help there. [1] https://fosdem.org/ [2] https://www.debian.org/license.en Best regards Laura Arjona Reina https://wiki.debian.org/LauraArjona -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2 iQGcBAEBCAAGBQJWmgz7AAoJEEw4Yb3McGt06wEMAJ2EXhDNXrv1j9gGrZCUSZ1D JjMzBGjuMtCW3AoLVQZ9wROTYsE9QLui3o3tG+OzUQY/lc79I//3gOpg4/ZWwLfd IyQhDm36Dh/NQGxq6ST49YLvB5T+DBxjgehBjyLM+gy9byAJKehbdl6SCr7FHI4i VZue81tocW0rG97ooz6MGoqjzIR2hKzh1z5bePoE7JRDkCKCX387DlvFLxvAZvL3 nQEZe+XYZJhElgLi7daSg2wl70njjsh0bqurdAdQi/Y8C6LUKz1EWv4JCVPSr6Q5 sb9IMUziANBZBT9KYRWIBnl79k9fTaLBTjJsjLmllFjdLXDJdh1/Gv7/R6nSgNQZ Ja500juT/rIo+LfAKOTKb63gQNUM7XCB7pgyB6lCWyQn1R/IBsXS2HnOvtWoCpHB /20hD5heB8ZNG1Kz3DS4jBl1YMhMmC79qZ2MRQG5Jl0JSm/KfTYE0m88iEyWUhtI wYwR7LOKV5M0UWeVnUJrpluRX5rA30DYa5ku1VIvDg== =wxSF -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: Would you agree - Debian is for the tech savvy
Hello, I don't know what is this characterization for, but I don't like it very much. Indeed, it would make more difficult to explain, as I do with Hypra or free software promotion organizations, that Debian is the best solution for a universally accessible operating system (and I'm sure it is). Moreover, it wouldn't be exact, in my opinion. The main difference between Debian and Ubuntu is that the installer is less friendly-user, and the firmware are not loaded by default. But I think Debian is really the Universal Operating System. And it's the characterization I prefer: saying this, it shows how Debian is for anybody. But if one is not a technician, it could need help, of course. But 1st, it matches to the collaborative state of spirit in free software. 2nd, if paid, it enables to finance free software dev. 3rd, never forget that any OS, included proprietary ones, would be difficult to install if not provided in computers. Installing an OS and having all benefits is not easy for a non-technician, also with Ubuntu. So really, I wouldn't like such characte!ization if a communication would be done on it. In my opinion, "the Universal OS" is fine, or "the multilevels system", or "the system you desire" (as we can use it on little or powerful machines, for server or end-user desktop, etc. Or "a base for any usage in free software". Regards, Le 16/01/2016 04:48, Stephan Foley a écrit : > Hello, I'm trying to characterize Debian and have the following: > > Debian is for the tech savvy sys admin type and the server market > > Is this a good characterization or am I off base? > > Thanks > > -- Jean-Philippe MENGUAL HYPRA, progressons ensemble Tél.: 01 84 73 06 61 Mail: cont...@hypra.fr Site Web: http://hypra.fr
Re: Would you agree - Debian is for the tech savvy
On 1/15/16 10:48 PM, Stephan Foley wrote: Hello, I'm trying to characterize Debian and have the following: Debian is for the tech savvy sys admin type and the server market Is this a good characterization or am I off base? Thanks Used to be. These days, in the wake of systemd, at least this sys admin will never install it again. The reasons are technical. -- In theory, there is no difference between theory and practice. In practice, there is. Yogi Berra
Re: Short tribute video in honor of Ian Murdock in FOSDEM
Hi Laura, On Samstag, 16. Januar 2016, Laura Arjona Reina wrote: > We, the Debian Publicity team, are trying to prepare a short tribute > video in honour of Ian Murdock to be screened at FOSDEM[1] awesome! where+when exactly do you plan to show it there? FOSDEM is huuuge. Did you contact the organizers to maybe show it at the closing or opening event? cheers, Holger signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: Would you agree - Debian is for the tech savvy
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On 17/01/2016 1:29 AM, Miles Fidelman wrote: > > On 1/15/16 10:48 PM, Stephan Foley wrote: >> Hello, I'm trying to characterize Debian and have the following: >> >> Debian is for the tech savvy sys admin type and the server >> market >> >> Is this a good characterization or am I off base? >> >> Thanks > > Used to be. These days, in the wake of systemd, at least this sys > admin will never install it again. The reasons are technical. Yes, it is certainly limiting my view of Debian to be one that is now broken and definitely not what Ian Murdock envisioned many years ago. : ( A. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- iF4EAREIAAYFAlaahJAACgkQqBZry7fv4vvLSAD/XagyhyE3hZYw4MC+3SC/Oh0x mPgfbB56Hci2yjRxGWUA/RiHrnFSLSO/7qyCmJm1vWRuiEvo9Q5JzHCiQA7Os2li =EFBM -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: Short tribute video in honor of Ian Murdock in FOSDEM
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On 16/01/16 16:38, Holger Levsen wrote: > Hi Laura, > > On Samstag, 16. Januar 2016, Laura Arjona Reina wrote: >> We, the Debian Publicity team, are trying to prepare a short >> tribute video in honour of Ian Murdock to be screened at >> FOSDEM[1] > > awesome! > > where+when exactly do you plan to show it there? FOSDEM is huuuge. > Did you contact the organizers to maybe show it at the closing or > opening event? > > The FOSDEM organizers have been very kind and proactive in this, I saw some emails that went around about it already. If you have access to Pentabarf, you may see an unconfirmed event with Debian in the title, it looks like they have reserved a suitable location and it should show up on the FOSDEM public schedule when they confirm it. I don't want to steal their thunder though, so we'll just have to wait for that to be announced. Regards, Daniel -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2 iQIcBAEBCAAGBQJWmoYxAAoJEGxlgOd711bEvmwP+gK53ueVoexzBQox2bMVD+bx NqjqD3AkWdyjId4USf9rMe0E/CBgXlqE5ILFEsF+Bq0pq8Lpu1uqgGb9E8p3TWKq r8yWaEusBtJNENXk9hQ8LpZVXbBVvdgbflB0FrEoxIUnmgA0NNJRtsFIJ/PVsyWD EHRWBeyPFbmjdAIhPn24tbXv60oElYkrP1zVdfvB5ZS68olaX5tARDNbGGpxhqGR fOCq33W76htJumAmhx2W6BW0qeAT+cgcd9P70GwA421RsRe7MX9Ei9+rfH4xvQ7K PWTZkAWeVUeMQqGYkYSyQbRsno7BrT9QCTjNMsBj6XRzuWFr3MBxbBgOThmyJNSk vaWWtggXakvggF0UtVpt78f2PBas3sMwqVpKqy4GnW4MqNLDC/9QTNiQ+xL6/lf7 lZ4UqLzs1FRxqvdg5OW9L4A+e99T5rRIpsd/903eSwZy/2dlyB6XfjtIuHDUUMAi DYv8J6pDpdD63hXU7M8WvN6pedvyAik++VHK+ZorKxHrZPbn+doNMi6/T7Y4HhGD qrXivKPDjfLyyhbDkrEnmaJGRhMYiFPXHCNOgxTInJcK6qCn5IbjXyKHB12h6PoX 4/aAyHaavFVVOi3P9a2GuwJK7JDphdNU4aZCf40Q9AUbiHV1GZBn7r5zmplcEdD5 3za4znpnGw9One/sWuuX =EOkv -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: Short tribute video in honor of Ian Murdock in FOSDEM
On Samstag, 16. Januar 2016, Daniel Pocock wrote: > The FOSDEM organizers have been very kind and proactive in this, I saw > some emails that went around about it already. If you have access to > Pentabarf, you may see an unconfirmed event with Debian in the title, > it looks like they have reserved a suitable location and it should > show up on the FOSDEM public schedule when they confirm it. I don't > want to steal their thunder though, so we'll just have to wait for > that to be announced. cool, thanks for the info! signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: Short tribute video in honor of Ian Murdock in FOSDEM
Laura Arjona Reina wrote: > Valessio Brito and yours truly have offered time to prepare it. I have given Ana mine, but please also look into these: https://joeyh.name/pics/debconf/4/afp.jpg Make sure to choose the bigger size for these, hosted at debconf.org They belong to Debconf4 (Portoalegre, Brazil, 2004) https://gallery.debconf.org/main.php?g2_itemId=14841 https://gallery.debconf.org/main.php?g2_itemId=16367 https://gallery.debconf.org/main.php?g2_itemId=15917 https://gallery.debconf.org/main.php?g2_itemId=16235 https://gallery.debconf.org/main.php?g2_itemId=16259 https://gallery.debconf.org/main.php?g2_itemId=14608 https://gallery.debconf.org/main.php?g2_itemId=14611 https://gallery.debconf.org/main.php?g2_itemId=15142 https://gallery.debconf.org/main.php?g2_itemId=15148 https://gallery.debconf.org/main.php?g2_itemId=15140 https://gallery.debconf.org/main.php?g2_itemId=15168 https://gallery.debconf.org/main.php?g2_itemId=15402 https://gallery.debconf.org/main.php?g2_itemId=15548 From: https://www.flickr.com/search/?q=ian+murdock https://www.flickr.com/photos/linux_ssa/400574184/ https://www.flickr.com/photos/alexdeoliveira/319652889/ https://www.flickr.com/photos/juantomas/124739109/ https://www.flickr.com/photos/juanje/45206140/ https://www.flickr.com/photos/warthog9/342831/ https://www.flickr.com/photos/jimgris/2471389340/ https://www.flickr.com/photos/textdriveinc/470533469/ https://www.flickr.com/photos/sebsto/490863958/ https://www.flickr.com/photos/ivoyager/2398474826/ https://www.flickr.com/photos/ed/3617707330/ https://www.flickr.com/photos/ivoyager/2398462112/ https://www.flickr.com/photos/ivoyager/2397646593/ https://www.flickr.com/photos/ivoyager/2398479060/ https://www.flickr.com/photos/ivoyager/2398477046/ https://www.flickr.com/photos/mlinksva/2412251544/ https://www.flickr.com/photos/ivoyager/2398478158/ https://www.flickr.com/photos/mlinksva/2411422041/ https://www.flickr.com/photos/mlinksva/2411424021/ https://www.flickr.com/photos/warthog9/342916/ https://www.flickr.com/photos/jimgris/2471389340/ https://www.flickr.com/photos/tmolini/2420732067/ ... there are just too many. -- .''`.The world breaks everyone, and afterward, some are : :' :strong at the broken places.- Ernest Hemingway `. `' `-Proudly running Debian GNU/Linux
Re: Would you agree - Debian is for the tech savvy
> [Miles Fidelman] >> Used to be. These days, in the wake of systemd, at least this sys >> admin will never install it again. The reasons are technical. [Andrew McGlashan] > Yes, it is certainly limiting my view of Debian to be one that is now > broken and definitely not what Ian Murdock envisioned many years ago. I haven't researched the systemd issues but I should look into them. Thanks for the input, guys.
Re: Would you agree - Debian is for the tech savvy
[Teemu Likonen] > You have the old stereotype of Debian. The reality is different: the > default Debian desktop install gives you a normal easy-to-use end-user > operating system and applications. This has been the case for a long > time but many people still maintain old stereotypes. > > Of course, Debian is for servers and technical people too. Thanks for the reply. I got the stereotype from this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YzjOtVL76C8 Open Source Developers' Conf 2014 @ 2:30 - Prime audience: official motto - "universal operating system" unofficial motto - "the sys admin's distribution for sys admins"
Re: Would you agree - Debian is for the tech savvy
On Sat, Jan 16, 2016 at 6:20 AM, MENGUAL Jean-Philippe wrote: > The main difference between Debian and Ubuntu is that the installer is > less friendly-user, and the firmware are not loaded by default. But I > think Debian is really the Universal Operating System. And it's the > characterization I prefer: saying this, it shows how Debian is for > anybody. But if one is not a technician, it could need help, of course. > But 1st, it matches to the collaborative state of spirit in free > software. 2nd, if paid, it enables to finance free software dev. 3rd, > never forget that any OS, included proprietary ones, would be difficult > to install if not provided in computers. Installing an OS and having all > benefits is not easy for a non-technician, also with Ubuntu. I do respect all the qualities you mentioned about Debian's commitment to only free software, although it does make installing more difficult. It is also true that all distros can be made to look like one another with a little work. Thanks for the reply. It is good to keep in mind that Debian is used by a lot of non tech savvy people (who may or may not of installed their system).
Re: Would you agree - Debian is for the tech savvy
Le 17/01/2016 00:31, Stephan Foley a écrit : > On Sat, Jan 16, 2016 at 6:20 AM, MENGUAL Jean-Philippe > wrote: > >> The main difference between Debian and Ubuntu is that the installer is >> less friendly-user, and the firmware are not loaded by default. But I >> think Debian is really the Universal Operating System. And it's the >> characterization I prefer: saying this, it shows how Debian is for >> anybody. But if one is not a technician, it could need help, of course. >> But 1st, it matches to the collaborative state of spirit in free >> software. 2nd, if paid, it enables to finance free software dev. 3rd, >> never forget that any OS, included proprietary ones, would be difficult >> to install if not provided in computers. Installing an OS and having all >> benefits is not easy for a non-technician, also with Ubuntu. > > I do respect all the qualities you mentioned about Debian's commitment > to only free software, although it does make installing more > difficult. Right. However, the driver issue exists also on other OS, even modern (including Windows XP and newer). So this problem, while existing, is not Debian-specific. That's why I think Debian needs to be considered as a classical OS, easy to use once installed, some9hat hard to install like any OS, and more stable in the time and with few risk updates. Regards,
