Re: Advertising on Planet Debian
On Thu, 2005-05-05 at 01:03 -0400, Stephen Gran wrote: > This one time, at band camp, John H. Robinson, IV said: > > Pascal Hakim wrote: > > > On Wed, 2005-05-04 at 13:46 +0200, Santiago Vila wrote: > > > > > > There's a whole bunch of messages in the junk folder that were caught by > > > razor. > > > > > > > * Are you already using greylisting? > > > > > > DSA seems to not like the idea of running a full DB on murphy. This > > > restricts the kinds of greylisting we can do. This is something I'd like > > > to move forward to, but will take a while. > > > > I wonder how difficult it would be to port the greylisting options to > > use SQLite. > > I am using a perl implementation from somewhere - it's the perl DBI > stuff, so it should be fairly trivial. I can dig up where I got it if > you like. Probably could even just do libdb stuff, I have no idea > (haven't looked at the perl libraries for it and how much work it would > be). Which greylisting daemon? Pasc -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Advertising on Planet Debian
This one time, at band camp, Pascal Hakim said: > On Thu, 2005-05-05 at 01:03 -0400, Stephen Gran wrote: > > This one time, at band camp, John H. Robinson, IV said: > > > Pascal Hakim wrote: > > > > On Wed, 2005-05-04 at 13:46 +0200, Santiago Vila wrote: > > > > > > > > There's a whole bunch of messages in the junk folder that were caught by > > > > razor. > > > > > > > > > * Are you already using greylisting? > > > > > > > > DSA seems to not like the idea of running a full DB on murphy. This > > > > restricts the kinds of greylisting we can do. This is something I'd like > > > > to move forward to, but will take a while. > > > > > > I wonder how difficult it would be to port the greylisting options to > > > use SQLite. > > > > I am using a perl implementation from somewhere - it's the perl DBI > > stuff, so it should be fairly trivial. I can dig up where I got it if > > you like. Probably could even just do libdb stuff, I have no idea > > (haven't looked at the perl libraries for it and how much work it would > > be). > > Which greylisting daemon? This one, with a few local modifications: http://users.aber.ac.uk/auj/spam/ -- - | ,''`.Stephen Gran | | : :' :[EMAIL PROTECTED] | | `. `'Debian user, admin, and developer | |`- http://www.debian.org | - pgpB1selK2X6s.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Advertising on Planet Debian
On Thu, May 05, 2005 at 09:28:58AM +1000, Pascal Hakim wrote: > > > > b) Be serious and prevent spam from reaching our lists *much* more > > > > effectively. What we are doing to fight spam in the lists is > > > > clearly not enough. > > > > > > What we are doing is mostly what the listmasters believe is appropriate. > > > > Unfortunately, what you, listmasters, believe is "appropriate" might > > not be the same as users of the lists consider appropriate. Have you > > ever asked people in the lists how much spam do they want to receive? > > > > We're getting roughly the same amount of people complaining about lists > being too restrictive as people complaining about the list not being > restrictive enough. I'm pretty sick of hearing Santiago bitch about how the debian lists still don't reject all mail, does that count? It's getting *really* old. -- .''`. ** Debian GNU/Linux ** | Andrew Suffield : :' : http://www.debian.org/ | `. `' | `- -><- | signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Advertising on Planet Debian
On Monday 02 May 2005 10:55 pm, Martin Schulze wrote: > Writing about ones work and how the own company or job evolves should > be pretty ok. Even reporting *about* the new strategy of the company > should be fine. However, I believe that simply quoting the company's > press release is advertising (oh, and hence should be fined with > $1,000, whoops *g*). We are not accepting this on the debian-* lists > normally, so why should Debian honor this on Planet Debian? In the end, isn't this a blog aggregator? It isn't a mailing list and I don't think the same rules apply. Effectively, Planet is trying to impose editorial conditions on peoples *diaries*. What are the conditions to be aggregated on Planet anyway? Be a Debianer? If that's the only criteria then you should just tough it out through the occasional press release. It only takes a day for something like that to roll off. -- Ean Schuessler, CTO [EMAIL PROTECTED] 214-720-0700 x 315 Brainfood, Inc. http://www.brainfood.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Advertising on Planet Debian
Ean Schuessler wrote: In the end, isn't this a blog aggregator? It isn't a mailing list and I don't think the same rules apply. Effectively, Planet is trying to impose editorial conditions on peoples *diaries*. No, that would be editorial conditions on the parts of developer's public journals that are published via debian.org. If you want to diarise about stuff that's not appropriate to Planet Debian, setup a separate feed for Planet, or use "read more" links, or something similar. It's not that tough, and if it lets you blog about what you want, and lets Planet Debian readers not be confronted with things that annoy them, it's all good. Cheers, aj -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Advertising on Planet Debian
Ean Schuessler wrote: > On Monday 02 May 2005 10:55 pm, Martin Schulze wrote: > > Writing about ones work and how the own company or job evolves should > > be pretty ok. Even reporting *about* the new strategy of the company > > should be fine. However, I believe that simply quoting the company's > > press release is advertising (oh, and hence should be fined with > > $1,000, whoops *g*). We are not accepting this on the debian-* lists > > normally, so why should Debian honor this on Planet Debian? > > In the end, isn't this a blog aggregator? It isn't a mailing list and I don't > think the same rules apply. Effectively, Planet is trying to impose editorial > conditions on peoples *diaries*. You named it. It contains diaries. It's an aggregator of of personal web logs, not an aggregator of (commercial) press releases. I feel that makes a big difference. > What are the conditions to be aggregated on Planet anyway? Be a Debianer? If > that's the only criteria then you should just tough it out through the > occasional press release. It only takes a day for something like that to roll > off. Be related to Debian and not write 100% crap or something? *shrug* Regards, Joey -- If nothing changes, everything will remain the same. -- Barne's Law -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
