Bug#158533: project: qmail is installed on murphy

[Manoj Srivastava]

>>"Raul" == Raul Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

 >> That's bullshit, and you know it. There are over 10,000
 >> instances in debian where we have taken software, created a patch,
 >> applied it, and distributed the binaries.

 Raul> You asked the question about qmail, not about debian.  I answered
 Raul> in that context.

Well, duh. people do not distribute binaries of modified qmail
 because it is non-free, and doing so would be illegal. 

manoj

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doubts about GNU/Linux installation

[Diogo Traldi de Oliveira]

I have a Compaq computer with a 7463 AMD-K6-2 processor. I don't known how 
of the installation guide a take. I have these options:

Installation Manual for Alpha
Installation Manual for ARM
Installation Manual for HP PA-RISC
Installation Manual for Intel x86
Installation Manual for Intel IA-64
Installation Manual for Motorola 680x0
Installation Manual for MIPS
Installation Manual for MIPS (DEC)
Installation Manual for PowerPC
Installation Manual for IBM S/390
Installation Manual for SPARC

  What Manual can I take?
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Re: doubts about GNU/Linux installation

[Jose Carlos Garcia Sogo]

On Tue, Sep 03, 2002 at 04:20:50PM -0300, Diogo Traldi de Oliveira wrote:
> 
> 
> I have a Compaq computer with a 7463 AMD-K6-2 processor. I don't known how 
> of the installation guide a take. I have these options:
> Installation Manual for Intel x86

  This one. An AMD processor is an Intel x86 compatible processor (at
  least for now.

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Re: doubts about GNU/Linux installation

[Jon Eisenstein]

> I have a Compaq computer with a 7463 AMD-K6-2 processor. I don't known how
> of the installation guide a take. I have these options:

The AMD-K6-2 processor is a clone of the Intel x86 instruction set, meaning
that the actual system you use is defined as an x86 system (as opposed to an
Apple Macintosh, or a Sun SPARCstation).

Bug#159511: project: debian smtp servers should be able to support secure SMTP (SSL/TLS)

[Noel Koethe]

Package: project
Version: N/A; reported 2002-09-03
Severity: wishlist

Hello,

please support secure SMTP (rfc2487) to have a secure and
private communication on none-official mailinglists.

thx.

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Debian registered as TM in Spain

[list]

Hi

Don't know if Debian people already know about this:
http://www.symlink.ch/article.pl?sid=02/09/03/1147242&mode=nested
(german)
http://www.marcanet.com/Acceso_Gratuito/CPRespMN.ASP?Num=1&L1=1&N=1&C1=42&Nmb=debian&Tp=Es&Sob=Marca
(spanish)
http://barrapunto.com/article.pl?sid=02/09/02/1020219&mode=nocomment
(spanish)

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Bug#158533: marked as done (project: qmail is installed on murphy)

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Package: project
Version: N/A; reported 2002-08-27
Severity: serious
Justification: violates Social Contract 1, 4, and 5 (maybe others)

The subject says it all. qmail is installed on murphy.debian.org. qmail
is non-free. Debian should not be using non-free software on its own
systems. I will quote from the Social Contract to show why this is so.

"Debian Will Remain 100% Free Software" is very clear, I think. "[W]e
will never make the system depend on an item of non-free software." Your
systems are depending on items of non-free software. The default
mail-transport-agent for installation is exim, and that is what most
other machines run, but not murphy. "Thus, although non-free
software isn't a part of Debian, we support its use, and we
provide infrastructure (such as our bug-tracking system and mailing
lists) for non-free software packages." I think the "support" you meant
here was "provide quality assurance for" not "endorse". I think running
qmail is the latter. Also, note that "non-free software isn't a part of
Debian". So it should not be on your machines. "We will be guided by the
needs of our users and the free-software community. We will place
their interests first in our priorities." I'm sorry, but it does not seem
like you have the interests of the free-software community first by
running qmail.

I have included two telnet sessions: one is with murphy, and one is with
a friend's machine, which is also a Debian machine running qmail. The
dead giveaway is that even with an EHLO, qmail is silent about the
software which is running.

Transaction with murphy.debian.org:

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Trying 65.125.64.134...
Connected to murphy.debian.org.
Escape character is '^]'.
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220 murphy.debian.org ESMTP
250-murphy.debian.org
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250 8BITMIME
rset
250 flushed
quit
221 murphy.debian.org
Connection closed by foreign host.

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Trying 206.180.155.20...
Connected to 206.180.155.20.adsl.hal-pc.org.
Escape character is '^]'.
220 decoy.wox.org ESMTP
ehlo stonewall
250-decoy.wox.org
250-PIPELINING
250 8BITMIME
rset
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221 decoy.wox.org
Connection closed by foreign host.

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Re: Debian registered as TM in Spain

[Jose Carlos Garcia Sogo]

On Tue, Sep 03, 2002 at 10:13:58PM +0200,  wrote:
> Hi
> 
> Don't know if Debian people already know about this:
> http://www.symlink.ch/article.pl?sid=02/09/03/1147242&mode=nested
> (german)
> http://www.marcanet.com/Acceso_Gratuito/CPRespMN.ASP?Num=1&L1=1&N=1&C1=42&Nmb=debian&Tp=Es&Sob=Marca
> (spanish)
> http://barrapunto.com/article.pl?sid=02/09/02/1020219&mode=nocomment
> (spanish)
> 

  A lawyer currently working in the Spanish translation team has just
 answered[1] telling us that with the Spanish laws, the previous use of a
 mark and the acceptation by the people who use it, invalidates the
 trademark. We only have to initiate a process to opposite to it.

  Related to this, perhaps we should try to fill a trademark
 registration valid in the most countries. At least I know that you can
 fill a patent in Europe valid in (at least) the UE countries. And
 perhaps we should try even to register it in more countries. IMHO, SPI
 should look into this.

   Cheers,

[1]
http://lists.debian.org/debian-l10n-spanish/2002/debian-l10n-spanish-200209/msg00022.html

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Re: "Bug of the month", or how to get people fixing bugs

[Torsten Landschoff]

On Sun, Sep 01, 2002 at 11:04:30PM +0200, Jordi Mallach wrote:
> On Fri, Aug 30, 2002 at 12:29:01PM +0200, Torsten Landschoff wrote:
> > There is also another positive effect - this will make maintainers broaden
> > their horizon by touching some other packages which I think would be 
> > a good thing for Debian.
> 
> Well, if with "touching" you mean NMU'ing right away to score a point, I
> wouldn't call it "possitive".

With touching I mean downloading the sources and trying to make a patch
for a problem.

cu
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Bug#158533: acknowledged by developer (no longer a bug.)

[Brian M. Carlson]

On Tue, Sep 03, 2002 at 04:03:11PM -0500, Debian Bug Tracking System wrote:
> This is an automatic notification regarding your Bug report
> #158533: project: qmail is installed on murphy,
> which was filed against the project package.
> 
> It has been closed by one of the developers, namely
> Ryan Murray <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>.
> 
> Their explanation is attached below.  If this explanation is
> unsatisfactory and you have not received a better one in a separate
> message then please contact the developer, by replying to this email.

This explanation is quite satisfactory, thank you.
 
> From: Ryan Murray <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

> This is no longer an issue.

I just looked, and murphy is now running postfix. Thank you very much! I
really appreciate it. Your response was fast and efficient.
 
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