Re: 43p-140 install issues

2005-01-01 Thread Ulrich Teichert
Hi,

>Would there be any image I can use to install this machine currently?

Sure, check http://www.solinno.co.uk/7043-140/, that's Leigh Browns site.
There's a detailed step-by-step guide which will take you through the whole
process. You can even choose what distro you want to install, but you may
have to update your firmware first (I had to do it as well, but it was
OK). BTW: great job Leigh!

>Here's my situation, If I can get the machine to boot and install by
>next week (back to work) my boss will let me keep working on it -
>otherwise he'll declare it useless and it'll go back in the closet. If
>I can get anything on it I'm ok - It doesn't need to be 2.6.
[del]

There are 2.4.x kernels on that site which are working very well, I
installed Debian Woody on top of it ;-)

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Uli
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Re: 43p-140 install issues

2005-01-01 Thread Ulrich Teichert
Hi,

[del]
>I would prefer that we fix the debian kernels for them to work correctly
>though. More on this on monday.

I failed to configure a stock 2.4.28 kernel to detect the SCSI controler.
I think some of Leigh patches for this must be applied, but I haven't
gone any further.

[del]
>Do the debian 2.4.27 kernel work on it ? I was unable to boot the 2.4.27 d-i
>kernel on my powerstack, but this is a different machine, so the issues may be
>a bit different. 

I've only tried the Woody PREP kernel, which failed in a way which I can't
remember, but I'll give it a try.

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Uli
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Re: 43p-140 install issues

2005-01-02 Thread Ulrich Teichert
Hi,

[del]
>Yes, please, i would greatly appreciate it, preferably the 2.6.8 kernel too.
>Let' try to get this fixed before the sarge release, which is not so far off
>now.

OK, 9 hours later I had a current sarge buisnesscard CD image, with
interesting results. I booted the standard kernel from the cdrom
with `boot cdrom:`, it came up and failed to load the initrd, so it died
on the spot as nothing could be mounted. It was detecting that I was using
a serial console.
Of course, I forgot to capture that session, so I did it again with logging
on in kermit. Then I could not boot anything from the CD, but I can still
boot fine from disk, so it's not a hardware problem. The LED displays F05
after reading something from the CDROM in this case and the machine hangs.
Strange.

I will try to boot via tftp, the firmware seems to be unable to boot
a specific file from CDROM,

CU,
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Re: 43p-140 install issues

2005-01-03 Thread Ulrich Teichert
ts complicated, if you ask me.
I really don't know why your floppy stops working after booting Leighs
kernel. But on the other hand, I don't know why I can't netboot my box
either - I can netboot anything else from DECstations to SGIs with the
same setup, but my 7043-44 refuses to load the kernel. It contacts the
server, figures out the name of the file, but does not request it.

For your network trouble, try to disconnect power from the box completely
for an hour or so. This was enough for my box to fall back to asking me
for the active console, maybe this works for your flaky network as well?

HTH,
Uli
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Re: 43p-140 install issues

2005-01-03 Thread Ulrich Teichert
Hi,

[del]
>> Linux/PPC load: console=ttyS0,9600 console=tty0
>
>*** This is the point you get 5 seconds to start editing the parameters.
>I guess if you specify root=/dev/ram0 or something then it will boot
>from the ramdisk, rather than trying to boot from /dev/sda3.

Right, now I can even boot over network:

0 > setenv load-base 100  ok
0 > setenv real-base c0  ok
0 > boot net: 
LOAD: Waiting 60 seconds for Spanning Tree
BOOTP R = 1 BOOTP S = 1  
FILE: /tftpboot/wehrle/vmlinuz-prep.initrd
Load Addr=0x100 Max Size=0xf00 
Packet Count = 100 [snipped the packet count lines]

loaded at: 01000400 01554FF4
relocated to:  0080 00D54BF4
zimage at: 0080A94C 0093DC0A
initrd at: 0093E000 00D4AB7A
avail ram: 0040 0080

Linux/PPC load: console=ttyS0,9600 console=tty0 root=/dev/ram
Uncompressing Linux...done.
Now booting the kernel
Total memory = 256MB; using 512kB for hash table (at c030)
Linux version 2.6.8-powerpc ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) (gcc version 3.3.4 (Debian 
1:3.3.4-11)) #1 Sun Oct 3 13:22:21 CEST 2004
PReP architecture
IBM planar ID: 00d5
MPIC at 0xfddc (0x3ddc), length 0x0004 mapped to 0xeffc
Built 1 zonelists
Kernel command line: console=ttyS0,9600 console=tty0 root=/dev/ram
OpenPIC Version 1.0 (4 CPUs and 16 IRQ sources) at effc
PID hash table entries: 2048 (order 11: 16384 bytes)
time_init: decrementer frequency = 16.618701 MHz
Console: colour dummy device 80x25
Dentry cache hash table entries: 65536 (order: 6, 262144 bytes)
Inode-cache hash table entries: 32768 (order: 5, 131072 bytes)
Memory: 251648k available (1732k kernel code, 1060k data, 164k init, 0k highmem)
Calibrating delay loop... 397.31 BogoMIPS
Mount-cache hash table entries: 512 (order: 0, 4096 bytes)
checking if image is initramfs...it isn't (no cpio magic); looks like an initrd
Freeing initrd memory: 4146k freed
NET: Registered protocol family 16
PCI: Probing PCI hardware
Setting PCI interrupts for a "IBM 43P-140 (Tiger1)"
PCI: Cannot allocate resource region 0 of device :00:0b.0
PCI: Cannot allocate resource region 0 of device :00:0c.0
PCI: Cannot allocate resource region 0 of device :00:10.0
PCI: Cannot allocate resource region 0 of device :00:12.0
Thermal assist unit not available
audit: initializing netlink socket (disabled)
audit(943920304.671:0): initialized
devfs: 2004-01-31 Richard Gooch ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
devfs: boot_options: 0x0
Initializing Cryptographic API
Generic RTC Driver v1.07
Macintosh non-volatile memory driver v1.1
Serial: 8250/16550 driver $Revision: 1.90 $ 8 ports, IRQ sharing disabled
ttyS0 at I/O 0x3f8 (irq = 4) is a 16550A
ttyS1 at I/O 0x2f8 (irq = 3) is a 16550A
pmac_zilog: 0.6 (Benjamin Herrenschmidt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>)
RAMDISK driver initialized: 16 RAM disks of 8192K size 1024 blocksize
input: Macintosh mouse button emulation
Uniform Multi-Platform E-IDE driver Revision: 7.00alpha2
ide: Assuming 33MHz system bus speed for PIO modes; override with idebus=xx
mice: PS/2 mouse device common for all mice
NET: Registered protocol family 2
IP: routing cache hash table of 2048 buckets, 16Kbytes
TCP: Hash tables configured (established 16384 bind 32768)
RAMDISK: Compressed image found at block 0
VFS: Mounted root (cramfs filesystem) readonly.
Freeing unused kernel memory: 164k init 60k pmac 4k chrp 8k openfirmware
NET: Registered protocol family 1

And that's it. Seems like the d-i doesn't know that it should use the
serial console. BTW, the instructions for booting PREP systems in the
debian installation manual aren't quite right, they are missing the
"net:" string. If the TFTP-server is setup right, the firmware can figure
out the rest, so giving the server IP, the name and the IP should not
be necessary and I would try `boot net:` first.

[del]
>It should never ask the console question again unless you change the
>config (plug in a mouse for example), unless your nvram battery is a
>bit flat of course!

This seems to be the case. But it really simplifies things, as I've never
been able to warm-boot anything ;-) Only a cold boot helps. Maybe Daniel
should remove the battery to reset things completely?

Anyway, without your site, Leigh, I would still have a big doorstop only,
thanks again,

CU,
Uli
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Re: 43p-140 install issues

2005-01-03 Thread Ulrich Teichert
Hi,

>Delete the "console=tty0", so you end up with:
>
> Linux/PPC load: console=ttyS0,9600 root=/dev/ram
>
>and try again!
[del]

Right, then the installer knows what to do. I think this should go into
the Debian installation docs, there are a lot of boxes with graphic cards
out which are not supported by Linux.

But the low level SCSI-driver is missing in this image, or any low level
SCSI drivers for that matter. There are only the high level modules there,
like sd_mod.ko and sr_mod.ko:

Nov 30 00:06:32 hw-detect: Using discover version 1.
Nov 30 00:06:35 hw-detect: Detecting hardware...
Nov 30 00:06:36 hw-detect: Missing module 'sym53c8xx'.
Nov 30 00:06:36 hw-detect: Missing module 'usb-storage'.
Nov 30 00:06:36 hw-detect: Missing module 'ide-mod'.
Nov 30 00:06:36 hw-detect: Missing module 'ide-probe-mod'.
Nov 30 00:06:36 hw-detect: Missing module 'ide-detect'.
Nov 30 00:06:36 hw-detect: Missing module 'ide-generic'.
Nov 30 00:06:37 hw-detect: Missing module 'ide-floppy'.
--More-- (57% of 44385 bytes) Nov 30 00:06:37 
hw-detect: Missing module 'ide-disk'.
Nov 30 00:06:37 hw-detect: Missing module 'isofs'.
Nov 30 00:06:37 hw-detect: Loading modules...
Nov 30 00:06:37 hw-detect: Detected module 'pcnet32' for 'Advanced Micro 
Devices [AMD] 79c970 [PCnet32 LANCE]'
Nov 30 00:06:37 hw-detect: Trying to load module 'pcnet32'
Nov 30 00:06:37 kernel: pcnet32.c:v1.30i 06.28.2004 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Nov 30 00:06:37 kernel: PCI: Enabling device :00:0c.0 ( -> 0003)
Nov 30 00:06:37 kernel: pcnet32: PCnet/PCI II 79C970A at 0x1020, 00 06 29 2e 98 
9d assigned IRQ 22.
Nov 30 00:06:37 kernel: divert: allocating divert_blk for eth0
Nov 30 00:06:37 kernel: eth0: registered as PCnet/PCI II 79C970A
Nov 30 00:06:37 kernel: pcnet32: 1 cards_found.
Nov 30 00:06:38 hw-detect: Detected module 'floppy' for 'Linux Floppy'
Nov 30 00:06:38 hw-detect: Trying to load module 'floppy'
Nov 30 00:06:38 kernel: inserting floppy driver for 2.6.8-powerpc
Nov 30 00:06:38 kernel: Using anticipatory io scheduler
Nov 30 00:06:38 kernel: Floppy drive(s): fd0 is 2.88M
Nov 30 00:06:38 kernel: FDC 0 is a National Semiconductor PC87306
Nov 30 00:06:38 hw-detect: Detected module 'ide-cd' for 'Linux ATAPI CD-ROM'
Nov 30 00:06:38 hw-detect: Trying to load module 'ide-cd'
Nov 30 00:06:39 kernel: Linux Kernel Card Services
Nov 30 00:06:39 kernel:   options:  [pci] [cardbus] [pm]
Nov 30 00:06:39 hw-detect: Starting PCMCIA services: using yenta_socket instead 
of i82365
Nov 30 00:06:39 hw-detect: cardmgr[1070]: no sockets found!
Nov 30 00:06:39 cardmgr[1070]: no sockets found!
Nov 30 00:06:39 hw-detect: done.
Nov 30 00:06:39 hw-detect: Detected discover version 1, installing discover1.
Nov 30 00:06:39 hw-detect: Detected hotplug support, installing hotplug.
Nov 30 00:06:40 hw-detect: Missing modules 'sym53c8xx (Symbios Logic Inc. / NCR 
53c825), usb-storage (USB storage), ide-mod (Linux IDE driver), ide-probe-mod 
(Linux IDE probe driver), ide-detect (Linux IDE detection), ide-generic (Linux 
IDE support), ide-floppy (Linux IDE floppy), ide-disk (Linux ATA DISK), isofs 
(Linux ISO 9660 filesystem)

/lib/modules/2.6.8-powerpc/kernel/drivers/scsi # ls
scsi_mod.ko  sd_mod.kosr_mod.ko

So, either this is the wrong image (I've taken the same as Daniel mentioned
in one of his mails: 
http://debian.yorku.ca/debian/dists/testing/main/installer-powerpc/current/images/powerpc/netboot/vmlinuz-prep.initrd),
or it's missing some vital modules.

HTH,
Uli
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Re: 43p-140 install issues

2005-01-04 Thread Ulrich Teichert
Hi,

[del]
>Ok... trying again with Leigh Brown's boot image and a woody root
>floppy and a woody CD.
>
>The console capture is below. Leigh's kernel boots up great, asks for
>a root floppy and then ...
>
>VFS: Insert root floppy and press ENTER
>
>FAT: bogus logical sector size 1981
>FAT: bogus logical sector size 1981

Strange.

[del]
>Reiserfs? Huh? I tried it twice, two different floppies. Both written
>as follows (as suggested in Debian manual):
>sudo dd if=root.bin of=/dev/fd0 bs=1024 conv=sync ; sync
>\1440+0 records in
>1440+0 records out
>1474560 bytes transferred in 120.042950 seconds (12284 bytes/sec)

How did you format the floppys before?

>I can however boot the installation I made earlier using Leigh's
>image. I have completed the installation and it runs ... for a short
>period of time. After about 5 minutes or so it stops responding to the
>console and to pings.

Ugh. I would recommend to dd Leighs kernel to your disk then. This has been
running reliable for me. The bootup log looks good to me, minus the floppy 
issue,
it's very much like mine.

HTH,
Uli
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Re: 43p-140 install issues

2005-01-04 Thread Ulrich Teichert
Hi,

[del]
> BTW, what about your firmware? Is it the most recent one ?

Yes, it is. I have asked this before ;-)

CU,
Uli
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Re: 43p-140 install issues

2005-01-04 Thread Ulrich Teichert
Hi,

>I gave Leigh's 2.4.22 a try. It gave me the same result with the
>debian root disk:
>
>VFS: Insert root floppy and press ENTER
>
>FAT: bogus logical sector size 1981
>FAT: bogus logical sector size 1981
>read_super_block: can't find a reiserfs filesystem on (dev 02:00,
>block 64, size 1024)
>read_super_block: can't find a reiserfs filesystem on (dev 02:00,
>block 8, size 1024)
>Kernel panic: VFS: Unable to mount root fs on 02:00

Could you try to format them before dd'ing on them, like fdformat /dev/fd0h1440?
I am not sure if that will change anything, though.

>Tonight I'll grab a different root floppy and see what happens.
>
>Leigh's 2.4.22 will also boot the system installed on /dev/sdb1,
>however it also stopped responding after awhile. I think it lasted
>longer than with 2.4.19.

I am begining to believe that there is some sort of hardware problem with your
box or it is an upgraded version which was a -140 in it's previous life, but my
-140 is rock solid with Leigh's 2.4.19 kernel - once it's up, that is.
I will leave it running tonight to see what happens,

HTH,
Uli
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Re: 43p-140 install issues

2005-01-05 Thread Ulrich Teichert
Hi,

[del]
>Done - no difference. Same message. Written multiple images, multiple
>times on multiple machine. Each one with the same result. At least I'm
>not completely alone, I found this:
>http://wikihip.cern.ch/twiki/bin/view/RS6000/KernelTestsOn43P240 exact
>same error.

Perhaps there are two different board revisions of -140's out? I'll check
what's written on the system board when I'm home again today.

>> > I am begining to believe that there is some sort of hardware problem with 
>> > your
>> > box or it is an upgraded version which was a -140 in it's previous life, 
>> > but my
>> > -140 is rock solid with Leigh's 2.4.19 kernel - once it's up, that is.
>> > I will leave it running tonight to see what happens,
[del]

Still running fine:

wehrle:~> uname -a
Linux wehrle 2.4.19 #3 Sun Aug 4 08:28:30 BST 2002 ppc unknown
wehrle:~> uptime
 08:58:25 up 13:08,  1 user,  load average: 0.00, 0.00, 0.00

I did a kernel compile with a parallel scp transfer as well to put the box
under a bit of load before, no issues.

HTH,
Uli
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Re: 43p-140 install issues

2005-01-05 Thread Ulrich Teichert
Hi,

the only reference number on my board is the IBM FRU number:

FRU 93H7143

I would expect that you will have the same marking on your mainboard.
My box ran all day with various loads from high to low or no load
at all:

wehrle:~> uptime
 22:29:24 up 1 day,  2:39,  2 users,  load average: 0.15, 0.32, 0.61

with Leigh's 2.4.19 kernel. As I searched for the number, I noticed
that the CPU fan was *covered* with dirt. Perhaps you should have
a look at yours too, because the front fan will pick up all dust and
throw it right on the CPU fan. I still wonder why mine was still
spinning

HTH,
Uli
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