Re: New Member

2007-07-12 Thread Paul A. Scott


On Jul 12, 2007, at 1:30 PM, Mr. Shawn H. Corey wrote:


Hi,

I have recently signed up to your mailing list and would like to  
introduce myself.  (I have been lurking for a few days to get a  
feel for this list.)


I have been using computers for many, many years and UNIX since  
S5R4. And yes, that means I have done some sysadmin.  (I even have  
a B manual, B the language before C; I never used it but I can  
answer questions you may have on it.  In other words, I am very  
comfortable with *NIX.)


I have a PowerBook G4 running Ubuntu 7.04.  And it's crappy.  So,  
I'm looking for alternatives.


First, I'd like to know how to convert my system over to Debian.  I  
have looked at the website (and noticed that a complete Debian is  
22 CDs), so I'm asking what's the best way to convert my machine to  
Debian?


Except for any Mac specific boot problems which I can't help you with:

1.  A network which starts with a single CD is easy, especially  
someone with your skills.


2.  The 22 CD's contain all the Debian packages that exist.  You  
won't  need that many of the packages.   The first one or two will  
get you most of what you want and then you get the rest from the  
Internet.


Second, what's involved in this "install from network"?  The  
website says you must know what you're doing but leaves no clue  
about what information I need to do it successfully.


If you are using DHCP and are connected to ethernet you probably  
don't have to know anything.  Otherwise you need to know the IP  
address and netmask.


Third, how do I determine what drivers I need?  Ubuntu really sucks  
at this.  I'm trying to avoid a repeat.


While Ubuntu is installed use tools like lspci to determine your  
hardware and you will probably be fine.  If there are other Mac  
specific driver problems someone else will probably jump in here and  
comment.





Just in case you want to know what inspired me, see:
http://www.magma.ca/~shawnhcorey/200707/1183732322.html
http://www.magma.ca/~shawnhcorey/200707/1184097840.html

I guess that what I'm really asking is, "Can Debian give me a  
system I use?"  A tough question which I don't expect you to  
answer.  That is, not directly.  But I'm dipping my toe in the  
waters to see if I like it.


The only trouble I had with my last PowerBook was the wireless  
driver.  I haven't actually installed Debian on this PowerBook yet.   
I'm just using the FreeBSD under the OS X.


HTH

Paul Scott



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Re: New Member

2007-07-12 Thread Paul A. Scott


On Jul 12, 2007, at 1:30 PM, Mr. Shawn H. Corey wrote:


Hi,

I have recently signed up to your mailing list and would like to  
introduce myself.  (I have been lurking for a few days to get a  
feel for this list.)


I have been using computers for many, many years and UNIX since  
S5R4. And yes, that means I have done some sysadmin.  (I even have  
a B manual, B the language before C; I never used it but I can  
answer questions you may have on it.  In other words, I am very  
comfortable with *NIX.)


I have a PowerBook G4 running Ubuntu 7.04.  And it's crappy.  So,  
I'm looking for alternatives.


First, I'd like to know how to convert my system over to Debian.  I  
have looked at the website (and noticed that a complete Debian is  
22 CDs), so I'm asking what's the best way to convert my machine to  
Debian?


Except for any Mac specific boot problems which I can't help you with:

1.  A network which starts with a single CD is easy, especially  
someone with your skills.


2.  The 22 CD's contain all the Debian packages that exist.  You  
won't  need that many of the packages.   The first one or two will  
get you most of what you want and then you get the rest from the  
Internet.


Second, what's involved in this "install from network"?  The  
website says you must know what you're doing but leaves no clue  
about what information I need to do it successfully.


If you are using DHCP and are connected to ethernet you probably  
don't have to know anything.  Otherwise you need to know the IP  
address and netmask.


Third, how do I determine what drivers I need?  Ubuntu really sucks  
at this.  I'm trying to avoid a repeat.


While Ubuntu is installed use tools like lspci to determine your  
hardware and you will probably be fine.  If there are other Mac  
specific driver problems someone else will probably jump in here and  
comment.





Just in case you want to know what inspired me, see:
http://www.magma.ca/~shawnhcorey/200707/1183732322.html
http://www.magma.ca/~shawnhcorey/200707/1184097840.html

I guess that what I'm really asking is, "Can Debian give me a  
system I use?"  A tough question which I don't expect you to  
answer.  That is, not directly.  But I'm dipping my toe in the  
waters to see if I like it.


The only trouble I had with my last PowerBook was the wireless  
driver.  I haven't actually installed Debian on this PowerBook yet.   
I'm just using the FreeBSD under the OS X.


HTH

Paul Scott



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